Old School Observations/Questions Thread 2020-21

[BruiserBrody]

Brody works at Wal-Mart so of rasslin is probably one of the classier break room discussions.

It's mostly 1000 yard stares and psychographic suicide note writing.

 

[King Kamala]

I didn't know whether to laugh react or sad react that last post. If I could do both, I would.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1301879325168414720

25th anniversary of moment that kickstarted my favorite era of wrestling.

 

[King Kamala]

Here is a random old school observation.

Mark Jindrak was the only one of the Natural Born Thrillers who ever became a World Champion. He won CMLL World Title in 2017. One more former NBT to become World Champ than I would have guessed tbh.

 

[Epic Springs]

I guess there's still time for Reno.

 

[BUTT]

25th anniversary of the first Nitro is threadworthy imo but I don’t feel like starting it.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

I don't know why, but I was thinking of the mixed tag from WM6, for some reason, and now I'm curious about the follow-up question: what is the most recent WWE match in which none of the participants are still alive?

 

[Epic Springs]

Probably the latest Eddie/Benoit match.

 

[BUTT]

There was an Umaga/Kamala match in 2006. Not sure if that’s the answer but that’s more recent than Benoit/Eddie.

 

[alkeiper]

There was an Umaga/Kamala match in 2006. Not sure if that’s the answer but that’s more recent than Benoit/Eddie.

Given where we were regarding wrestler deaths in 2007, that’s kind of amazing.

 

[King Kamala]

There haven't been that many >50 wrestler deaths since '07, relatively speaking. Only "Woah! That guy is way too young to die." deaths I can recall are Umaga and Lance Cade.

At risk of sounding like a WWE cuck, I'm sure WWE paying for rehabs since the late '00s has helped.

 

[King Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1299921032783032320

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1302275299413954561

 

[LaParkaYourCar]

https://classicwrestlingreview.com/2020/09/06/hog-wild-96/

Here's my review of WCW Hog Wild '96.

 

[King Kamala]

I spent literally an hour today wracking my brain whether or not WWF had a late night call in show on USA Network in '01-'02ish and was resigned to the fact that it was a Mandela Effect thing.

But it wasn't. WWF Excess! Show is so irrelevant that it doesn't even a Wikipedia entry

Only clips on YouTube seem to indicate it was targeted towards the horndog WWF fans since only clips are of Divas profiles but maybe there were also sit-down profiles of a bored Test and other midcarders

 

[Valeyard]

It was the lead-in for Confidential. All I remember is Ivory co-hosted for a bit.

 

[King Kamala]

It ran from late August 2001 to May 2002, when it was replaced by Confidential and Velocity. According to its Wikipedia, it was originally supposed to be the WCWWF show initially and Excess was a super last minute replacement when they realized skeleton crew WCW would be a terrible standalone show.

Also apparently, the show was initially two hours long which seems painful.

 

[Tino Standard]

The only thing I remember about Excess was at SummerSlam ‘01, there was a classic exchange between Heyman and JR after the Angle-Austin match. JR was blowing a gasket about Austin getting himself disqualified and screaming at Heyman about how Austin knew he couldn’t actually beat Angle. JR kept getting more and more heated, demanding a response from Heyman.

In a bit that was edited from the Network version, Heyman pauses for a second and then calmly looks at the camera. “Ladies and gentlemen, we have a great new show coming on the USA Network called WWF Excess!” JR looked like he was about to explode.

 

[Valeyard]

It should've been a WCW show anyway. It's not like they wouldn't have big stars "jump ship." Rumorz at the time said HHH and Benoit were going to be the big faces of the new WCW.

 

[Epic Springs]

I remember Excess. I think the debut episode featured HHH's first on-air appearance since injuring his quad. They took calls and one of the callers asked about Kevin Nash.

They also hyped up an episode featuring HBK's return to WWE after getting fired a year or so prior. I think he joined the nWo a week or two after this show aired.

 

[snuffbox]

Kamala tried to start conversation about how things might have gone if Bryan Danielson had been kept in 01. The invasion roster with some additional workers like Bryan & some crossovers could've made for a good 1-2 hour weekly show. Would have added months, maybe another year to a much better invasion angle. And then more of the main eventers would start coming back in. Steiner, then the NWO, and Rey by Summerslam 02. Maybe Sting earlier than that 2014 if the whole thing hadn't been so badly botched by the WWE.

 

[Epic Springs]

Re-watching Beyond the Mat on Netflix...

Michael Modest and Tony Jones are highlighted as two indy standouts. I know Modest went on to have a decent career in the indies in the late 90s/early 2000s but I don't know much about Tony. Did he ever go on to do anything noteworthy?

Here's our answer.

 

[King Kamala]

Kamala tried to start conversation about how things might have gone if Bryan Danielson had been kept in 01.

You could have posted that in my actual Bryan Danielson thread, ya know!

 

[snuffbox]

I thought about it and got all confused about what to do

 

[King Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1303105091663261698

 

[Valeyard]

NWA show from '88 I just watched had Nikita Koloff and Dr. Death teaming up. That's scary.

 

[Valeyard]

I'm also, like, 85% sure Al Perez is Seth Rollins' dad.

 

[Epic Springs]

In this edition of "Who Cares Where They Are Now?":

 

[Brocklock]

He's younger than Goldberg so get ready for the Tiger Ali Singh Wrestlemania push next year.

 

[King Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1304071024623919110

 

[Valeyard]

GLAAD went from praising WWE to hating them over the course of 18 hours. Classic Vince.

I don't think Chuck ever recovered from this, either.

 

[BruiserBrody]

He's younger than Goldberg so get ready for the Tiger Ali Singh Wrestlemania push next year.

Had Baba not died, a run there in post WWF seems like a given. Obv. more mid card than his daddy though.