The All Time NFL Draft II

[Agent of Oblivion]

This is it. The picking order will start MIDNIGHT MONDAY. ALL TIMES ARE EDT!!!

Draft Order

12:00 AM tonyjaymz03
1 WR Jerry Rice
2 LB Mike Singletary
3 OT Art Shell
4 DE Jack Youngblood
5 WR Michael Irvin
6 QB Brett Favre
7 S John Lynch
8 RB Jerome Bettis
9 DB Ty Law
10 DE Elvin Bethea
11 P Ray Guy
12 T Bob "Boomer" Brown
13 CB Ronde Barber
14 LB Zach Thomas
15 FB Larry Csonka
16 C Mark Stepnoski
17 LB Greg Lloyd
18 S/KR/PR Kenny Easley
19 LB Julian Peterson
20 NT Kris Jenkins
21 TE Todd Heap
22 G Ruben Brown
23 Coach Joe Gibbs
24 TE Jeremy Shockey
25 OG Shawn Andrews
26 K Neil Rackers

2:00 AM Vitamin X
1 DE Reggie White
2 LB Ray Nitschke
3 QB John Elway
4 RB Marshall Faulk
5 C Mike Webster
6 WR-KR/PR Tim Brown
7 S Rodney Harrison
8 WR Isaac Bruce
9 DT Cortez Kennedy
10 WR Paul Warfield
11 T Joe Jacoby
12 S LeRoy Butler
13 LB Randy Gradishar
14 G Russ Grimm
15 LB/DE Leslie O'Neal
16 FB Larry Centers
17 S Dick Anderson
18 G Guy McIntyre
19 Coach Bill Walsh
20 T Matt Light
21 DL Richard Seymour
22 DE TOO TALL
23 K Matt Stover
24 TE Mark Bavaro
25 CB Patrick Surtain
26 CB Sam Madison

2:30 AM Youth N Asia
1 RB Walter Payton
2 LB Derrick Thomas
3 WR Randy Moss
4 QB Steve Young
5 OT Jackie Slater
6 DE Chris Doleman
7 LB Derrick Brooks
8 LB Jesse Tuggle
9 S Willie Wood
10 WR Irving Fryar
11 CB Lem Barney
12 DE Charles Haley
13 G Tom Mack
14 WR Herman Moore
15 DT Dana Stubblefield
16 C Jeff Saturday
17 FB Mike Alstott
18 CB Eric Allen
19 TE John Mackey
20 OT Chris Samuels
21 S Johnny Robinson
22 Coach Bill Cowher
23 K John Carney
24 DT Shaun Rogers
25 OG Lou Creekmur
26 P Todd Sauerbrun

4:00 AM Fokai
1 LB Lawrence Taylor
2 CB Ronnie Lott
3 G John Hannah
4 OT Orlando Pace
5 RB Earl Campbell
6 WR Terrell Owens
7 DT Randy White
8 CB Herb Adderly
9 G Larry Little
10 DT Dan Hampton
11 LB Harry Carson
12 RB Marcus Allen
13 DEWillie Davis
14 DE Jason Taylor
15 RT Erik Williams
16 WR Chad Ocho Cinco
17 QB Kurt Warner
18 TE Jason Witten
19 S Bob Sanders
20 CB Nnamdi Asomugha
21 LB/DE Willie McGinest
22 K Jason Elam
23 WR/KR John Taylor
24 Coach George Seifert
25 P Reggie Roby
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6:00 AM tominator89
1 RB Barry Sanders
2 CB Deion Sanders
3 OT Jonathan Ogden
4 G Larry Allen
5 LB Brian Urlacher
6 DT Warren Sapp
7 S Brian Dawkins
8 K Adam Vinatieri
9 CB Aeneas Williams
10 WR Torry Holt
11 G Steve Hutchinson
12 T Jon Runyan
13 DE Julius Peppers
14 C Tom Nalen
15 QB/P Randall Cunningham
16 WR Larry Fitzgerald
17 DT THE FUCKING FRIDGE
18 RB Brian Westbrook
19 TE Alge Crumpler
20 DE Jevon Kearse
21 S Roy Williams
22 CB Asante Samuel
23 Coach John Madden
24 LB Seth Joyner
25 WR Calvin Johnson
26 LB Takeo Spikes

7:00 AM Gert T
1 OT Anthony Munoz
2 DT Bob Lilly
3 CB Dick "Night Train" Lane
4 G Gene Upshaw
5 DE Michael Strahan
6 RB Thurman Thomas
7 S Troy Polamalu
8 WR Lance Alworth
9 QB-P Sammy Baugh
10 G Will Shields
11 RB/FB Marion Motley
12 DE Mark Gastineau
13 LB George Connor
14 LB Wilber Marshall
15 C Dermontti Dawson
16 LB Patrick Willis
17 S Darren Sharper
18 DT Kevin Williams
19 TE Ben Coates
20 CB Charles Woodson
21 WR Henry Ellard
22 Coach Paul Brown
23 KR/PR Billy "White Shoes" Johnson
24 K David Akers
25 WR Art Powell
26 OT Mike McCormack

9:00 AM Agent of Oblivion
1 QB Peyton Manning
2 OL Bruce Matthews
3 RB Emmitt Smith
4 OT Forrest Gregg
5 C Jim Otto
6 OT Gary Zimmerman
7 CB Darrell Green
8 G Joe DeLamielleure
9 WR-KR/PR "Bullet" Bob Hayes
10 WR Raymond Berry
11 S Jack "The Assassin" Tatum
12 DT Ernie Stautner
13 LB Dave Wilcox
14 CB/S-KR/PR Mel Renfro
15 WR Fred Biletnikoff
16 LB Cornelius Bennett
17 LB Hardy Nickerson
18 TE Ozzie Newsome
19 CB Ken Riley
20 DE Rich "Tombstone" Jackson
21 Coach Tony Dungy
22 DL Bill Willis
23 DE Len Ford
24 FB Lorenzo Neal
25 K George Blanda
26 P Jerrel "Thunderfoot" Wilson

10:00 AM Brooklyn Zoo
1 RB Jim Brown
2 QB Dan Marino
3 DT Alan Page
4 LB Chuck Bednarik
5 WR Marvin Harrison
6 OL Roosevelt Brown
7 CB Mike Haynes
8 LB Sam Huff
9 WR James Lofton
10 S Jack Christiansen
11 LB Chris Hanburger
12 TE Antonio Gates
13 G Billy Shaw
14 T Ron Mix
15 DE LC Greenwood
16 WR Don Maynard
17 DE Fred Dean
18 Coach Tom Landry
19 FB Darryl Johnston
20 DT Henry Jordan
21 S Deron Cherry
22 DT Joe Klecko
23 OG Bill Fralic
24 CB Everson Walls
25 K Rob Bironas
26 P Sean Landeta

11:30 AM OriginalGoblin
1 LB Jack Lambert
2 LB Ray Lewis
3 DE Gino Marchetti
4 T Jim Parker
5 S Larry Wilson
6 TE Tony Gonzalez
7 G Mike Munchak
8 RB Curtis Martin
9 FB Roger Craig
10 DE Lee Roy Selmon
11 Coach Vince Lombardi
12 C Jim Langer
13 T Rayfield Wright
14 CB Bob Boyd
15 G Gene Hickerson
16 NT Jamal Williams
17 CB/S Eddie Meador
18 WR Hines Ward
19 QB Otto Graham
20 LB DeMarcus Ware
21 LB Lee Roy Jordan
22 CB Dave Grayson
23 WR Anquan Boldin
24 KR Rick Upchurch
25 K Nate Kaeding
26 P Darren Bennett

1:00 PM 909
1 RB OJ Simpson
2 WR Cris Carter
3 DT Merlin Olsen
4 DE Howie Long
5 LB Junior Seau
6 CB Champ Bailey
7 T Ron Yary
8 QB Fran Tarkenton
9 WR Andre Reed
10 LB Pat Swilling
11 G Steve Wisniewski
12 LB Nick Buoniconti
13 DE Harvey Martin
14 S Darren Woodson
15 WR Andre Rison
16 LT Tony Boselli
17 TE Charlie Sanders
18 LB Peter Boulware
19 S Carnell Lake
20 CB Troy Vincent
21 K Jan Stenerud
22 G Kevin Gogan
23 G Randy Cross
24 P Shane Lechler
25 KR Desmond Howard
26 Coach Jimmy Johnson

1:30 PM EHME
1 DT "Mean" Joe Greene
2 CB Mel Blount
3 RB Eric Dickerson
4 LB Ted Hendricks
5 T Dan Dierdorf
6 DE Neil Smith
7 TE Shannon Sharpe
8 LB Andre Tippett
9 CB Willie Brown
10 T Richmond Webb
11 LB Robert Brazile
12 DT Bryant Young
13 C Kevin Mawae
14 S Sean Taylor
15 G Jerry Kramer
16 WR Charlie Joiner
17 WR Keyshawn Johnson
18 G Brian Waters
19 QB Jim Kelly
20 Coach Don Shula
21 S Adrian Wilson
22 DE Greg Townsend
23 KR/PR Brian Mitchell
24 K Gary Anderson
25 RB Bo Jackson
26 P Jeff Feagles

2:00 PM Next USC #55
1 RB LaDainian Tomlinson
2 S Ed Reed
3 S Paul Krause
4 DE Carl Eller
5 DE Richard Dent
6 QB Bart Starr
7 WR Lynn Swann
8 KR/PR Devin Hester
9 TE Kellen Winslow
10 WR Art Monk
11 DT Art Donovan
12 CB Lester Hayes
13 WR John Stallworth
14 LB/DE Shawne Merriman
15 C Frank Gatski
16 CB Emmitt Thomas
17 RB John Riggins
18 LB Bill Romanowski
19 Coach Bill Belicheat
20 OT Tra Thomas
21 LB London Fletcher
22 K Jason Hanson
23 LB Don Shinnick
24 P Mike Scifres
25 OT John Tait[/b]
26 OG Kris Dielman

3:00 PM Beast
1 QB Joe Montana
2 WR Don Hutson
3 RB Gale Sayers
4 LB Willie Lanier
5 FB Bronko Nagurski
6 DE Doug Atkins
7 LB Joe Schmidt
8 DT Leo Nomellini
9 T Frank Varrichione
10 CB Roger Wehrli
11 TE Mike Ditka
12 S/P Yale Lary
13 C Mel Hein
14 WR Charley Taylor
15 LB Bill George
16 DT Alex Karras
17 T Bob St. Clair
18 DE Andy Robustelli
19 G Dan Fortmann
20 G Walt Sweeney
21 K Morten Andersen
22 Coach Buddy Parker
23 SS Charlie Waters
24 CB Miller Farr
25 RB/WR/TE Pete Retzlaff
26 WR RC Owens

9:00 PM HarleyQuinn
1 ILB Dick Butkus
2 NT John Randle
3 OLB Jack Ham
4 OLB Kevin Greene
5 WR Jimmy Smith
6 G Randall McDaniel
7 C Jim Ringo
8 LT Tarik Glenn
9 QB Len Dawson
10 RB Lenny Moore
11 SS Donnie Shell
12 DE Simeon Rice
13 CB George "Butch" Byrd
14 WR Rod Smith
15 G Gale Gillingham
16 DT Ted Washington
17 CB Jimmy Patton
18 FB Fred Taylor
19 TE Brent Jones
20 OT Ryan Diem
21 KR/PR Dante Hall
22 DE Clyde Simmons
23 DB Ray Buchanan
24 FS Goose Gonsoulin
25 K Josh Brown
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11:00 PM Kageho
1 DE Bruce Smith
2 WR Elroy Hirsch
3 QB Warren Moon
4 OT Willie Roaf
5 S Steve Atwater
6 RB Franco Harris
7 DB Emlen Tunnel
8 WR Pete Pihos
9 CB Dick LeBeau
10 C Mick Tinglehoff
11 LB Rickey Jackson
12 DE Jim Marshall
13 T Lomas Brown
14 WR Steve Smith
15 LB Simon Fletcher
16 G/T Nate Newton
17 TE Harold Carmichael
18 LB Joey Porter
19 RB Ricky Watters
20 Coach George Halas
21 DB Bobby Dillon
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11:30 PM MFer
1 DE Deacon Jones
2 DB Rod Woodson
3 OT Walter Jones
4 QB Tom Brady
5 WR Steve Largent
6 S Ken Houston
7 DT Buck Buchanan
8 OL Dwight Stephenson
9 LB Bobby Bell
10 RB Tony Dorsett
11 CB Jimmy Johnson
12 WR Sterling Sharpe
13 S Cliff Harris
14 G Alan Faneca
15 LB Mike Curtis
16 TE Dave Casper
17 T Willie Anderson
18 LB Chuck Howley
19 Coach Chuck Noll
20 KR/PR Eric Metcalf
21 RB Jim Taylor
22 K Nick Lowery
23 DT Albert Haynesworth
24 DE Jared Allen
25 OL Chris Hinton
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[Agent of Oblivion]

Notes on drafting and scoring

1. When drafting players, please include things like career highlights, pics, film, reasoning, etc. Most of the fun here is to read about the all-time greats.

2. At the end of the draft, I will randomly seed these teams and hold a single-elimination tournament where we will all vote for the winners, with the exception of voting for your own team. When we get down to tournament time, feel free to use your own system of judging the teams against one another. Last year, I voted based on peak performance. I'm sure some of you will consider full body of work to be more important, or mechanics, and I'm certain HarleyQuinn is going to be analyzing these guys statistically. Basically, be sensible, and please be consistent.

3. When it's your time to pick, you get to pick regardless if prior participants have picked or not. That's what keeps this format moving.

4. We'll be selecting 11 offensive and 11 defensive starters, as well as a Punter, Kicker, and return man, as well as a coach.

5. Regarding players that played multiple positions: You can certainly have Deion Sanders be your starting CB and return man. Feel free to use that "return man roster spot" on something like a special teams gunner, 3rd down back, etc. Be creative. HOWEVER, say you choose an old-timey 2 way lineman; when it comes down to judgment time, fatigue is fair game in terms of estimating whether that player will wear down and hurt their performance. Draft wisely.

 

[Agent of Oblivion]

At midnight, we are go. Hope you have your war room ready.

 

[tonyjaymz03]

(edited to make it look legit)

Jerry Rice WR San Francisco 49ers

-22,895 receiving yards
-197 touchdown receptions
-3x Super Bowl champ

I picked Jerry Rice because I wanted a player who was the best at his position, who was durable, and would be a leader on and off the field.

 

[Vitamin X]

Dude, you just failed the concept of this draft. You don't draft until midnight Eastern time, although I guess it doesn't matter if you're technically the first, right?

 

[Brooklyn Zoo]

He signed Jerry Rice this early to avoid a holdout.

 

[HarleyQuinn]

Technically, he could've drafted anytime from 12:00 to 1:59 AM ET before VX's turn...

 

[Kageho]

I just asked Ob about this in a pm, I really should've made it here it seems.

Should you not make it for your time for whatever reason, you can always get someone to sit in (Ob can confirm this if he wants to). Just so long as you trust the person to draft the guy who you want, and not screw you over and take them themselves.

And if you can't make it to your time on your very first pick, what the hell are you thinking?

 

[Vitamin X]

I'll wait until it's actually my turn to make my pick.

 

[tonyjaymz03]

sorry guys, didn't know when I'd make it back, so I did it real fast from my phone

 

[Vitamin X]

So, last year I made it to the finals with a heck of a good offense, a great coach, and a killer secondary. Ultimately, the lack of depth in the trenches caught up with me and I wasn't able to win big because of it. This year, I'm changing that strategy entirely and, even though I think there might be better players available, there was no better guy at his position or for what I need than:

DE Reggie White

13× Pro Bowl selection (1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998)
10× First-Team All-Pro selection (1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1995, 1998)
3× Second-Team All-Pro selection (1994, 1996, 1997)
1× All-USFL (1985)
Super Bowl champion (XXXI)
2× NFL Defensive Player of the Year (1987, 1998)
3× UPI NFC Defensive Player of the Year (1987, 1991, 1995)
1986 Pro Bowl MVP
1985 USFL Man of the Year
NFL 75th Anniversary All-Time Team
NFL 1990s All-Decade Team
NFL 1980s All-Decade Team
USFL All-Time Team
Philadelphia Eagles #92 retired
Green Bay Packers #92 retired
Philadelphia Eagles Honor Roll
Green Bay Packers Hall of Fame

That's a hell of a list of accomplishments, top to bottom, and exactly the guy I want anchoring and leading my defense, no matter what shape it may take.

 

[Fökai]

Lawrence Taylor

LAWRENCE JULIUS TAYLOR, ROLB
6'3", 237 lbs.

Career Statistics (1981-93):
1,088 Tackles, 142 Sacks, 33 Forced Fumbles, 10 Fumble Recoveries and 9 INTs.

Career Awards
* 1986 MVP (only time awarded to a defensive player)
* 1981 NFL Defensive Rookie and Defensive Player of the Year
* 3 AP NFL Defensive Player of the Year (1981, 1982, 1986)
* 10 Pro Bowls (1981-1990)
* 10 All-Pro Awards (1st Team: 1981-89, 2nd Team: 1990)
* 2 Super Bowl Rings

NFL All-80's Decade Team. NFL All-Anniversary Team.

 

[tominator89]

Although he retired early, in my opinion, this guy is the greatest running back of all-time. He's one of the reasons why I became a football fan.

Barry Sanders

Career Stats
Rushing Yards: 15,269
Average: 5.0
Touchdowns: 109

Career highlights and awards
* 10× Pro Bowl selection (1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998)
* 6× First-Team All-Pro selection (1989, 1990, 1991, 1994, 1995, 1997)
* 4× Second-Team All-Pro selection (1992, 1993, 1996, 1998)
* 1997 Co-NFL MVP
* 1997 NEA NFL MVP
* 1997 Co-PFWA NFL MVP
* 1989 NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year
* 1988 Heisman Trophy
* 2× NFL Offensive Player of the Year (1997, 1994)
* 2× Bert Bell Award (1997, 1991)
* Holds 10 Detroit Lions Team Records

 

[Gert]

With my 1st pick I select:

LT Anthony Munoz

11 Time Pro Bowler, 9 Time 1st Team All-Pro

 

[Youth N Asia]

"Sweetness" Walter Payton

Rushing yards: 16,726
All-purpose yards: 21,803
Rushing Touchdowns: 110
9× Pro Bowl selection
6× First-team All-Pro selection
3× Second-team All-Pro
1977 NFL MVP
1977 PFWA NFL MVP
1977 NEA NFL MVP
1985 UPI NFC Player of the Year
1977 UPI NFC Player of the Year
1978 Pro Bowl MVP
Super Bowl XX Champion

You can pretty much take Payton, Sanders, and Brown, put them in any slot 1-3 and call one of them the greatest ever.

 

[Agent of Oblivion]

QB Peyton Manning

He was the first QB taken last year, and here he is again, since my top two choices were already taken (Rice and Munoz, in that order)

Last year, my team ate shit during playoff time because I got waaaaay too cute with my offense. Not this time.

I've seen nearly every pro game this guy has played (he hasn't missed a start), and he's the best QB I've ever seen play the game. Barring injury, Manning will most likely own every statistical record in the NFL, and he defines leadership on the field. He has a Superbowl win, too, in a playoff where no one gave them a chance.

9× Pro Bowl selection (1999, 2000, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008)
4× First-team All-Pro selection (2003, 2004, 2005, 2008)
3× Second-team All-Pro selection(1999, 2000, 2006)
3× AP NFL MVP (2003, 2004, 2008)
Indianapolis Colts All-time leader (Passing Touchdowns and Passing Yards)
Pro Bowl MVP (2005)
Super Bowl MVP (XLI)

Pass attempts 5,960
Pass completions 3,839
Percentage 64.4
TD-INT 333-165
Passing yards 45,628
QB Rating 94.7
Stats at NFL.com

 

[Brooklyn Zoo]

I'm writing this up as Agent speaks so if he picks this guy I'm going to cry. This guy is probably not only the best running back of all time, but he may be the best player of all time. He led the league in rushing EIGHT years, he had 1863 rushing yards in a 14 game season! Dude was a beast, 6'2, 230 pounds of mayhem, skill and unstoppability. My pick is:

Jim Brown.

3 Time MVP
3 Time Pro Bowl MVP
9 Time Pro Bowler
8 Time First Team All-Pro
Lacrosse Hall of Fame

 

[Agent of Oblivion]

3rd RB selected. Wow. Give yourself a Value *.

He went number one last year.

 

[OG]

The meanest motherfucker to ever play the game:

Jack Lambert, MLB

- 9× Pro Bowl selection (1975, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983)
- 7× First-team All-Pro selection (1975, 1976, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983)
- 1× Second-team All-Pro selection (1978)
- 4× Super Bowl champion (IX, X, XIII, XIV)
- NFL 75th Anniversary All-Time Team
- NFL 1980s All-Decade Team
- NFL 1970s All-Decade Team
- 1974 NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year
- 1976 NFL Defensive Player of the Year
- 20/20 Club

 

[Vitamin X]

Interesting to see the different approaches everyone is taking to this year's draft...

 

[tonyjaymz03]

I like the Reggie White pick...I was hoping first round everyone would focus on offense so he'd fall to me in the 2nd but c'est la vie

Anyone else thought about what kind of offense/defense they're playing? I'm going with the 3-4 on defense

 

[Vitamin X]

I usually wait until I'm a couple rounds in before deciding what defense I'm going with, since I'd hate to start building a killer 3-4 and then realize that there's more good d-linemen available than good linebacking.

 

[tonyjaymz03]

good point, either way, kudos on the white pick...IMO that and the Jim Brown pick are the ones In like the most so far....Jim Brown is a steal by Brooklyn Zoo

 

[HarleyQuinn]

I'm definitely targeting a 3-4 on defense as I did last draft. I may end up converting some undersized DE to rush LB if given the opportunity.

 

[909]

Orenthal James "O. J." Simpson (born July 9, 1947), nicknamed "The Juice", is a retired American football player, actor, spokesman, and convicted felon.

* 6× Pro Bowl selection (1969, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976)
* 5× All-Pro selection (1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976)
* NFL 75th Anniversary All-Time Team
* NFL 1970s All-Decade Team
* 1968 Heisman Trophy
* 1968 Maxwell Award
* 1968 UPI Player of the Year
* 1967 Walter Camp Award
* 1967 UPI Player of the Year
* 1973 NFL MVP
* 1973 NFL Offensive Player of the Year
* 1973 Bert Bell Award
* 1973 Pro Bowl MVP
* 3× UPI AFL-AFC Player of the Year (1972, 1973, 1975)
* 1973 AP Man Athlete of the Year

 

[Agent of Oblivion]

Photos of Jack Lambert pretty much define what a football player should look like, I think.

The teeth..

 

[OG]

I'm not sure what defense I'm using. Last time, I basically used the 70's Steel Curtain and drafted a bunch of guys from that group. This year, despite Lambert, I'm going a different direction.

 

[Agent of Oblivion]

My defense is going to look way different than the QB killing machine I made last year. Of course, I'm actually going to have a WR on my roster this year, too, so it might be a little more balanced.

10 picks so far and I'm the only one who went QB. Weird.

 

[tonyjaymz03]

My defense is going to look way different than the QB killing machine I made last year. Of course, I'm actually going to have a WR on my roster this year, too, so it might be a little more balanced.

10 picks so far and I'm the only one who went QB. Weird.

It may just be me, but I think the amount of "great" or "HoF" qbs is greater than RB,DE, etc.

But yeah, I figured there'd be a run of QBs in the first round, the variety of players chosen is fun

 

[OG]

I honestly don't think there's enough of a quality difference between guys like Marino, Montana, Manning, Brady, Elway etc. to grab a QB in round 1.