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WWE Network uploaded 6-28-00 through 11-8-00 episodes of Thunder for all of you fans of crap at TRTSM.
 

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As with Rachel from the last two seasons of Boy Meets World becoming a hardcore pornographic actress, I think I'm the only one here who still cares but so be it! LAST FOUR MONTHS OF THUNDER ARE ON WWE NETWORK!
 

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There is nothing wrong with appreciating the recent career movement of Maitland Ward, Kamala. Or so I’ve heard. Ahem.

(You’re still on your own with Thunder, though.)
 

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Fired up the 4/26/00 show in honor of 20th Anniversary of David Arquette winning the WCW World Title.

Idk if I have seen this. Or at least I haven't since the Shitty WCW Club 10-12 years ago. I didn't remember that the Arquette World Title match was set up by Eric Bischoff and Jeff Jarrett threatening to murder David Arquette if DDP doesn't give him a World Title match. And the World Title match is a tag team match.

Seeing Bobby Heenan as the B show announcer after he got demoted for Mark Madden is weird & sad.

The Cat just squashed Bam Bam Bigelow in like a minute and a half in the opener. How were Scott Steiner and Bam Bam Bigelow New Blood btw?


Oh great now here's "The Perfect One" Shawn Stasiak. He's wrestling Chris Kanyon. Curt Hennig comes out to guest commentate. Was Curt Hennig legally not allowed to say "Perfect".

Kanyon wins after Curt Hennig knocks out Shawn Stasiak with some knucks. Again who the hell s supposed to be the face?

Mike Awesome runs down and beats down Kanyon. Awesome Bomb through the commentary table.

DDP runs in and Diamond Cutters Shawn Stasiak as Mike Awesome nonchalantly walks away. So it took a little over two weeks for Mike Awesome to stop giving a shit in WCW lol.

Cool teen Billy Kidman in a red and yellow Hulkstar shirt slides down the stairs with his hot girlfriend Torrie. He's in action next.

DDP says he'll defend the title.
 

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Marc Mero is in the front row with longtime Syracuse boxing trainer Ray Rinaldi. I feel like WCW would have agreed to Marc Mero saying "Alright. You can show me in the front row but you also got to shout out my boxing trainer."

Drunken yokels in Syracuse chant "Hogan". Nerdy fan with a "Hulk Hogan Big Boot Me In The Face" sign. Which TRTSMer did he turn into?

Kidman issues an open challenge.He wants to get this done with so he can bone Torrie Wilson.

"American Made" plays. IS IT THE HULKSTER!? NO IT'S NEPHEW HORACE!

Horace is returning from a knee injury.Imagine buying tickets to a WCW show, hoping to see Hulk Hogan, hearing his theme than HORACE coming out.

Horace wrestles in a sleeveless baseball jersey and jean shorts and looks like a giant Justin Credible.

I'm genuinely surprised Horace Hogan is still alive. Good for him.

I'm kind of bummed that no one brings up the fact that these guys were both in The Flock together.

Kidman wins after Bischoff hits Horace with a chair and Kidman bulldogs Horace off the top rope through a table outside the ring.

UH OH! IT'S TANK ABBOTT! He obliterated the WCW.com table on Nitro.

GHOSTBERG IS AVOIDING HIM! He's going to beat someone up tonight.

Bobby Heenan and Mike Tenay don't want their asses kicked.

Marc Mero's boxing trainer shoves him. LOL. THIS GUY IS OVER 70 YEARS OLD. WHY DOES HE WANT TO FIGHT TANK ABBOTT..

Marc Mero headlocks Tank and hits him a few times before security breaks it up. The PA guy turns on the Johnny B Badd theme.

This goes right into Sting walking into the building covered in blood (while we can hear "HERE COMES JOHNNY B BADD" playing in the background). Well they should have ended WCW then cause it wasn't getting any better than that.
 

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STING is wrestling The Wall in a Tables Match. Sure, why not.

I might have to draft dead eyed, covered in blood Sting in the next draft tbh.

Tenay says this is the first Tables Match in WCW. Sting power bombs The Wall through the table in less than two minutes. WHAT AN EPIC TABLE MATCH!

Vampiro tries to jump Sting but Sting kicks his ass.

GETTING DRENCHED IN BLOOD HAS REINVIGORATED STING.

Vince Russo is WALKING with Shane Douglas and Buff Bagwell.

Blood drenched Sting calmly walks out of the building.

Tony dubs Douglas & Bagwell as Franchise & Buff. He is already crediting Vince Russo as the man who saved WCW.

Strange hearing Bobby Heenan suck up to Vince Russo.

Vince Russo cuts a promo on Rochester. This show is in Syracuse.

Buff Bagwell in his Bobby Hill voice: What he's trying to say is THIS PLACE SUCKS!

Shane Douglas "shoots" on Ric Flair. He's gonna FRANCHISE Ric Flair's ass at Slamboree (By Western Union)

Team Package interrupt. Vince Russo has the Power Plant Security Guars form a human wall.

Ric Flair seems fucking tanked. Even tanked he's the best promo on the show.

Ric Flair: I've pissed away more on bar tabs than you three will ever earn.
Tony Schiavone: Now that's a shot.

Ric Flair says if he beats Shane Douglas, he wants Vince Russo for five minutes.

Vince Russo: This is the part where I'm supposed to act like a chickenshit heel.

He's not afraid of Ric Flair.

Lex Luger can't believe that Buff Bagwell, the guy who used to sit in the back of his and Sting's rental car and sleep on a rollaway bed wants to kick his ass.

Vince Russo makes fun of the Lex Express and says Miss Elizabeth is his property. He has R&B Security kidnap Elizabeth.

My girlfriend tells me to put on headphones. Good lord. I might have to tap out.
 

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Chris Candido and Tammy Sytch come out. Tammy is even drunker than Ric Flair. She knows what the men come to see and she is going to take off her robe. MIKE TENAY IS HORNY! Tony Schiavone cums.

Tammy Sytch and Paisley are going to wrestle.

Bobby Heenan says "Oh man. This guy has had a hard life" about Chris Candido in a really earnest way that makes me sad. It was also 15th anniversary of Candido's death this week too.

Sunny dives on Chris Candido and The Artist Formerly Known as Prince Iaukea.

Bobby Heenan: (confused) Is she tough?

Paisley wins with a crappy DDT.

Bobby Heenan says there could have been more hairpulling in this match.

Mean Gene is with Booker T. Major Gunns interrupts. WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON!? Booker T is wrestling Mike Awesome next. Mike Awesome's been on the independent circuit but he might have what it takes to make it.

Scott Steiner's hoochies see the interview and Big Poppa Pump flips out. BOOKER! BOOKER!

Yeah. I'm gonna throw in the towel for the night before the one match on the show that is actually probably good. Will finish in the morning.
 

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Marc Mero's boxing trainer shoves him. LOL. THIS GUY IS OVER 70 YEARS OLD. WHY DOES HE WANT TO FIGHT TANK ABBOTT...
https://twitter.com/MarcMero/status/1256676017332203520
Damn. Ray probably could fight Tank Abbott at this point.
 

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Because I am a sadist, I am watching the conclusion of the Lethal Lottery Tournament. Sting Vs Big Poppa Pump for a WCW World Title shot the night after Mayhem ‘00. It’s the 11-15-00 edition of Thunder.


Typical crappy ‘99-‘00 Thunder opening video package that poorly tells us what happened on Nitro. Except this time there is a Union Jack frame!

Thunder is TAPED from Manchester, England! Some British teen tries to do the Rock eyebrow.

A pipe wielding Big Poppa Pump shoves a very British looking security guard through some doors. Already this episode rocks!
 

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Episode starts with Big Vito Vs Reno. This episode SUCKS! I hate Reno’s tights, I hate his stupid hair cut. I hate how much he flicks his tongue.

Straight Shooting Stevie Ray calls out Tony for using insider terms.

Lot of empty seats visible on hard camera.

Sean O’Haire and Mark Jindrak interfere to give Reno the win. At least some wrestlers I like appeared.

Oh great a Reno promo.

A hungover Ric Flair cuts a promo from his office. Mike Sanders must defend his Cruiserweight Title tonight. Ric Flair puts over the WCW Hardcore Title division with all of the sincerity he used to tell his wives that he was going to stay with them forever. Ric Flair says the match between Lance Storm and General Hugh G Rection will be their last ever. Bah gawd. This had to be most boring Flair promo ever!
 

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Team Canada is with Mean Gene. Lance Storm is facing Booker T tonight so we might get a good match. Mean Gene calls Major Gunns a self serving bitch. I thought Russo was gone by now.

Two New Jersey greats Bam Bam Bigelow and Crowbar face off for the WCW Hardcore Title.

One guy tries to start an ECW chant after Bam Bam gingerly goes through a table.

Bam Bam Bigelow has strong visiting star at an Indy show, “this check better clear...” energy. Bammer deserved better!
 

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Some fan has a
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Sign and if that isn’t a shirt then it should be.

Booker T is in a yellow track jacket. He is getting no respect! He has been here since 1992. He is the World Champion. Big Poppa Pump would be the freak in the hoods of Houston.

Crowbar rests on some beer kegs and Bam Bam Bigelow and Mike Awesome have a pull apart.

There is dissension in Bootleg ‘98 DX. Hugh Morrus calls The Wall “Jerry” maybe Vince Russo is still working here?
 

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Everyone’s theme in this Cruiserweight Title Shot Six pack match is horribly dubbed. Rey Mysterio Jr looks goofy as hell with his red hair and devil horns. The mask was less marketable than this!??


Somehow Kwee Wee is more over than everybody? Maybe cause he has a hot valet (Hello future Queen Sharmell)?

All the valets (and Jerry Sgt A Wall) all quarrel and Doug Dillinger tells them to scram.

Stevie Ray: The yaks are going back to yak school!

Stevie is pissed that no one told him the format for this match.

Of course cause it is WCW, last two guys in the match are the heels.

Stevie claims Kwee Wee is one of the Top 10 guys in WCW when he doesn’t have a yak distracting him.

Meng and Jim Duggan brawl cause of reasons?

Meng carries Kwee Wee on his shoulders. Name a more iconic duo...
 

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An up close and personal interview with BUFF BAGWELL fine by the Professor Mike Tenay. Buff Bagwell just knows that things would be different for WCW if he got the same chances that Jeff Jarrett, Sting, and Lex Luger got, things would be different.

Yeah.

They would be already out of business.

Buff Bagwell: when Buff Bagwell walks to the ring, people know they’re going to get a good match.

I am making the “Oh Really?” Emoji face IRL.
 

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Random off day rewatch.

April 29th, 1999 Thunder cause I saw on Cagematch that it features a Kevin Nash Vs Hak match.

And we open with Ric Flair in his skivvies in the mental hospital leading the patients (and staff including Nurse Asya) in a singalong of "She'll Be Comin' Around The Mountain". Ah. This is when WCW's decline really became sharp.

Standard video package of WCW President Ric Flair going mad with power and getting institutionalized thanks to some trickery from Roddy Piper, a Surge drinking David Flair, and a Kevin Nash jackknife power bomb.

We're here from State College, PA. Mike Tenay and Larry Zbyszko (in a Penn State crewneck) are on the call. Ooof. Goldberg and WCW World Champion DDP are here. Loaded Thunder. Larry Zbyszko is a Penn State alum. Being here beat being out of the Ho Chi Minh Trail.

Jobber music brings out...Curt Hennig. He's making his return after a two month absence.

He's facing WCW Television Champion Booker T. Damn this is a loaded Thunder.
 

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Booker T slaps a bunch of hands. This feels like a house show more than a Thunder between this, Hennig's scrub music, and the number of visible empty seats.

My neighbor Billy Silverman is the official.

Hennig stalls. Do these guys think it's a house show?

First Human Game of Chess reference.

Mike Tenay says Stevie Ray has offered Booker T a spot in the nWo Black & White, which sounds absurd but then I quickly remember he has joined less relevant stables.

Hennig looks a lot slimmer than he normally did during his WCW run but it's obvious he lost most of his spring.

We had two WCW World title changes on Nitro. Sting beat DDP then later that night, DDP won the title back in a four way with Sting, Goldberg, and Nash. That's considered one of the last great Nitros IIRC and I probably should have watched that instead.

Also two World Title changes in one night? Was Russo already secretly working for WCW?

Sign "It's My 25th Birthday". I spent my 25th birthday doing a bar crawl of old man dive bars. Whether or not that is better or worse than attending a '99 Thunder taping...

Long chin lock spot.

Oh I realized why this Thunder is so loaded. It's going against the pilot episode of Smackdown! on UPN. No better way to compete with WWF than with some house show level action!

Booker T hits the Ax Kick and is about to finish Curt Hennig when Stevie Ray runs in and hits Curt Hennig with the Slapjack. What the hell?


This match just made me wish we could've seen a younger Curt Hennig Vs Booker T. Booker was getting main event level reactions already. I'm not saying push him as a top guy earlier than the death throes would've saved WCW but it couldn't have hurt.

WCW Hotline plug.

They couldn't have put Schiavone on this show if they're competing with WWF? You know I'm a Mike Tenay apologist but him as a PBP guy in WCW is NG.

Goldberg Vs Meng! WCW World Heavyweight Champion DDP is here. Some say he's sneaky and question his alliance with Macho Man Randy Savage. @BruiserBrody groan at long time rivalries being ignored.

Random Kevin Nash video package that just loops the "Don't turn your back on the Wolfpack." part of his theme. Crunkbird.
 

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Hak & Chastity are here. Was Chastity supposed to be Hak's sister? The facial resemblance is a bit disconcerting.

Tenay plugs tickets going on sale for Monday Nitro at the Georgia Dome on July 5th with Macho Man and Gorgeous George being on hand at the box office to meet fans. More angry @BruiserBrody murmuring about kayfabe over the current #1 heel and his valet schmoozing with fans.

It's sad how generic Hak's theme is. I think that's one of the underlying reasons WCW failed. They were so concerned about the big picture and they didn't give a damn about small details that get talent over.

Hak is THE MOST EXTREME WRESTLER IN WRESTLING! He beat Bam Bam Bigelow and Raven at Uncensored in the most brutal match in the history of pro wrestling. Turning most one of the most weirdly charismatic babyface into a generic sneering heel is reason #17,417 why WCW failed. Hak wants Chastity to pick his opponent. Her first choice is TOO FAT AND OLD! Second choice is just TOO OLD.

Oh I guess Chastity is supposed to be his girlfriend.

Chastity says Sandman wants someone BIG, how about BIG SEXY? Alright if Little Sexy wants him to beat up Big Sexy then that's what'll happen.

Backstage, Booker T and Rick Steiner brawl. They will be wrestling May 9th at Slamboree.

Goldberg video package that just flashes text from his biography over shots of him sneering and posing.
 

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BUFF! BUFF DADDY!

Compete with this, Vince!

Oh god. He's dressed as Scott Steiner. The comedy stylings of Marcus Alexander Bagwell. Where you at, @Mickey Massuco ?

Scott Steiner is defending his WCW United States title against Buff Bagwell at Slamboree.

Buff's BPP impression sounds more like Cartman. THE BIG BAD DOODOO DADDY.

Larry Zbyszko: He's been watching too many videos.

This is like a TNA level parody.

Buff Bagwell: I've been watching BET, trying to figure out lines to steal from rappers and I came up with one "I'm not a player, I'm just on parole a lot." Christ.

BIG POPPA DUMP IS AN IDIOT! FLUSH ME IF YOU HEAR ME!

Larry Zbyszko: Is this a pay toilet?

Christ.

Tenay thinks the impression was good. Shaddup.
 

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Generic music brings out Jerry Flynn. Dammit.

nWo Black & White music. Dammit. Stevie Ray, the boss of the nWo Black & White. There's no way this match doesn't suck.

Tenay talks about Jerry Flynn's impressive recent win-loss record.

Is there a bigger Who's Who of "Who Cares?" then the nWo B Team.

King Kamala grumbling about what a waste of Scott Norton.

Tenay and Larry Zbyszko talk about Charles Robinson's power trip and Kevin Nash accepting Hardcore Hak's hardcore challenge.

I guess after years of the announce team talking over mid-card matches with nWo chat, it's only fair that the nWo became the boring mid-card matches that the announcers talked over.

Lightning Foot cannot overcome the nWo B Team. Stevie wins with the Slapjack. What a crappy finisher. Stevie is just like "Hey. What if I took the Pedigree and made it crappier."

This week on WCW Saturday Night: Juventud Guerrera, Nasty Boy Knobbs, the Four Horsemen duo of Dean Malenko and REDACTED, and Buff Bagwell.
 

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OK. Here is the reason why I tuned in. Nash Vs Hak in a hardcore match. Nash was an ECW fan so I'm curious to see this.

Zbyszko says Nostradamus couldn't predict the actions of Randy Savage.

Nash looks like he was hanging out with Konnan before the show.

Nash immediately kicks Hak's ass and beats him with the Singapore cane. '99 smarks wept. Except they were probably busy watching the Smackdown! pilot.

Sidewalk slam onto a ladder. BIG FN SEXY.

Larry Zbyszko spent his career trying to inflict the minimum amount of pain. @BruiserBrody applause.

Ginger Nash table bump. Why oh why did I expect a '99 Nash Vs Sandman match to not suck?

Nash is selling like he hung out with Scott Hall before the show.

Zbyszko actually has kind of a good call by calling hardcore wrestlers "the wrestling unconscious."

Tenay hypes Bam Bam Bigelow Vs the newest member of WCW's Hardcore division Nasty Boy Knobbs at Slamboree.

Kayfabe wise, Sandman has to be one of the dumbest wrestlers. Literally 90% of his offense looks like it hurts him as much if not more than his opponent.

Chastity with the fire extinguisher. Nash wrestles it away from her. He sprays it on Hak and jackknife power bombs him through a table for the win.

We get the PRESENTED IN BEST QUALITY POSSIBLE DUE TO TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES WITH THE ORIGINAL BROADCAST graphic. Idk if 4k could save a '99 WCW Thunder.
 

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Mean Gene is here. He says Joe Paterno and others are here. Jerry Sandusky is probably more of a Buck Zumoffe fan (Brody chuckle). He welcomes Bam Bam Bigelow. I guess this is still a B show.

Bam Bam Bigelow talks about the New Jersey tradition. Asbury Park. The Jersey Shore. BOO! That's not the state we're in. It's Hardcore Night! He wants to challenge Page to see WHO IS THE KING OF ASBURY PARK. Bigelow is leaning on the chair he brought out. Is anyone here sober? I guess why would anybody be if you had to work in WCW at this point. Him and DDP were homies in Asbury Park.

Zamfir's pan flute brings out Meng. Goldberg speared Meng on Monday Nitro.

More signs of decline: Goldberg has head stubble. Although he might have been growing it out for that dumpy Universal Soldier sequel he was filming around this time.

Zbyszko hasn't seen anyone like Goldberg in his 25 GLORIOUS years in the business.

I will say there is something electrifying about Goldberg even post streak. Hot chicks with Goldberg signs, people standing on their feet during the match. It's just something you don't see for any wrestler in 2022.

Tenay and Zbyszko talking about how Meng is more methodical and sadistic than Goldberg is veiled for "This guy is a slug with boring offense." Like Meng has to be on the Mt. Rushmore of wrestlers who are more interesting outside of the ring than in it.

Spear and jackhammer. Goldberg wins. He's facing Sting at Slamboree '99. Of course, I'd say WCW was blowing it by throwing Sting Vs Goldberg as a random mid-card match on a third tier PPV but they already gave it away on Nitro the year before!
 

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Mean Gene welcomes out DDP. Generic overdubbed music. Self High Five Solo hand shake? DDP is the only guy to lose and win the World Title back in the same night. DDP wants to thank Jody Hamilton, Jake The Snake, and Dusty Rhodes for helping him hit this level of greatness. Everyone boos him and Mean Gene is appalled. Thanking his trainers and mentors doesn't seem that hellish. He wants to thank the haters for giving him the motivation for becoming the TWO TIME TWO TIME WCW World Champion.

Reason #17,418 WCW failed...finally pulling the trigger on DDP as a top guy and immediately making him a heel.

DDP will grant Bam Bam Bigelow a World Title shot because their old Jersey crew wants to see it.
 

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Generic techno. GD it. It's The Disciple. He's wrestling Macho Man Randy Savage.

WHAT UP MACH? Hard to believe this was a (B show) main event ten years earlier. Wistful @BruiserBrody noises.

Macho Man is slapping hands. Isn't he supposed to be the heel?

It was certainly bold of Macho Man to completely reinvent himself again in 1999 but I'm not sure if horny raver grandpa was the right route.

Has Molly Holly ever talked about being part of Team Madness in any shoots? She definitely seems like a square peg there.

Ah. Tenay and Zbyszko talk about Disciple and Savage having a long rivalry. If Scott Hudson was there, we might have gotten a Beefcake Barber reference.

Flair will be at Nitro on Monday in Charlotte. What a hero's hometown welcome.

This is about as dead as I have seen a crowd for a Macho Man match. Jerry Flynn-Stevie Ray probably got as much of a reaction.

Mike Tenay talks about Macho Man being a presenter at the Nicelodeon Kids Choice Awards this Saturday.

I'm not sure if Macho Man was Nick's first choice for presenter.

Gorgeous George starts a Macho chant.

Disciple is choking Macho Man and threatening the ref. Idk who the babyface is but I guess who the hell would root for '99 Ed Leslie? Besides Brody.

Disciple gets the sleeper on the floor but George breaks it up then Mona holds his hair while Madusa kicks him in the breadbasket.

Flying elbow drop. It's weird Macho Man would need interference to beat a JTTS. He did do a nonchalant cover though.

Zbyszko and Tenay are confused whether to call Mona "Mona" or "Miss Madness".

I guess this is Randy Savage's comeback match.

At Slamboree, it's Gorgeous George with Miss Madness and Madusa against Little Naitch Charles Robinson. One of the many matches to look forward to. I guess.
 

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Main event time. DDP defends the WCW World Heavyweight against Bam Bam Bigelow in a hardcore match.

Zbyszko speculates he's only doing this cause his Slamboree opponent Kevin Nash competed in a hardcore match earlier.

Bam Bam Bigelow doesn't have entrance music, which seems kind of scrubby but considering how bad most WCW entrance music was, I think no music might be preferable?

It's very WCW that they'd close out one of the most important Thunders with a heel Vs heel match.

DDP is in the best shape of his career here tbh. He even has abs, which is weird for his everyday old underdog gimmick. I guess maybe that's why he's a heel. "HE GOT IN GREAT SHAPE! HE'S A DICK NOW" which actually, ya know isn't that unreasonable of a mindset.

It's not that DDP is a bad heel. In fact, I'd say he's good bordering on great but his heel shtick just feels very, very mid-card.

This is definitely match of the night, at least. Bigelow knows how to do these TV PG plunder brawls and DDP seems happy to make his buddy look good. It's not very good but much better than anything else

THEY'RE STEALING ZBYSZKO AND TENAY'S SODA COOLER AND FRUIT TRAY!

Bigelow goes ass first through a table. Ouch.

DDP reverses a sidewalk slam with a head scissors. LUCHA PAGE.

Bigelow goes for the Greetings from Asbury Park but DDP squirms out and hits the Diamond Cutter.

Randy Savage runs out and hits the Flying Elbowdrop on BBB for good measure. WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON!? And here comes the canned boos.

Larry Zbyszko: WHY DOES HE CARE!?
That seems like motto for WCW at this stage.

Hard to believe WCW's last great PPV was just a few weeks before this. Christ.
 
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