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Re: DC & Marvel Animated Discussion
« Reply #750 on: May 31, 2017, 02:03:02 AM »
Quality in what sense? While Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths will always be my atf, I've actually found the New 52 universe of films to be pretty good outside of the first one (WAR). I like the continuity with the Bat-family and seeing Damien's evolution toward the Titans. JL Dark is also in that continuity and is pretty good.

Assault on Arkham is from the Arkham game universe, I believe. It's also pretty good, so you should definitely check it out.
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Re: DC & Marvel Animated Discussion
« Reply #751 on: May 31, 2017, 03:28:24 AM »
I can't remember where I left off but like The Killing Joke - there were points the animation seemed choppy and voice syncing seemed off at times.  Probably more noticeable seeing it on the big screen.  I haven't watched a ton of the New 52 stuff, don't think I saw the Crisis one referenced but the last few I watched just felt thrown together to me and I wasn't as hyped as I used to be.

Probably time I give them another chance because they are easy to consume, usually a little over an hour.

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Re: DC & Marvel Animated Discussion
« Reply #752 on: May 31, 2017, 06:57:47 AM »
Ahh, gotcha. I hadn't noticed any of that but I may not be paying that close attention to the technicalities of the animation itself. Definitely check out JL Dark, though. Fun story!
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Re: DC & Marvel Animated Discussion
« Reply #753 on: June 23, 2017, 08:13:48 AM »
Batman: Mask of the Phantasm is hitting Blu-Ray on July 25th.

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Re: DC & Marvel Animated Discussion
« Reply #754 on: August 20, 2017, 02:32:33 AM »
Official trailer for Batman vs. Two Face has dropped. Definitely out of the 60's Batman vault with Adam West, Burt Ward(!), and William Shatner voicing the trio of Batman, Robin, and Two Face respectively. Julie Newmar voices Catwoman and Steven Weber will voice Alfred. Also Maurice LaMarche will voice Egghead.

Release date is October 17th.


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Re: DC & Marvel Animated Discussion
« Reply #755 on: August 30, 2017, 08:59:46 AM »
Batman and Harley Quinn was decent, I guess. Gets a 5/10 maybe. It definitely utilizes the PG-13 rating as far as cussing goes along with blood.

The artwork definitely invokes BTAS and it works great too. Ivy's design in particular benefited from that decision IMO but I've always liked her BTAS style. The plot was incredibly basic and the screenplay did the entire thing very little to work with beyond the team up aspect, which was done better in Harlequinade anyway. The story felt like something that could've worked if it had been properly fleshed out. The set designs and art is a highlight though and just visually you can 'see' this as being almost a B-Plot BTAS type episode.

There was almost no development to Ivy or Woodrue as villains beyond their evil scheme so it was hard to really give a shit about the stakes. We'd already seen the Batman/Harley team-up and the screenplay really didn't try to play around with it, which was a real shame. There were some lines & little moments but way too few and far between, same for Harley's interactions with Ivy when they finally do meet. The action was fine but it felt like the screenplay tried to use the action & set pieces to gloss over or hide the lack of character interaction and heavy dialogue which made the pacing come off as really fast especially by the final scene.

The screenplay had some potty humor that should've just been cut and a horrible "filler scene" where TWO songs were sung that was very reminiscent of Harley's Holiday (with Harley singing Blondie's "Hanging on the Telephone") that just dragged. It also had a poorly done death scene to try and show some humanity to Harley(?) but the person who died had such little screentime, who cared. I actually didn't mind the Harley/Nightwing stuff since it was clearly not meant to be 'serious relationship' and was treated as two in need of sex just boning each other.

All the voice actors were great to very solid. I enjoyed Melissa Rauch & Paget Brewster a lot as Harley/Ivy respectively, which surprised me given how well known their BTAS voices are. Conroy and Lester were fantastic, same for Richardson, so no real surprises there.

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Re: DC & Marvel Animated Discussion
« Reply #756 on: September 01, 2017, 04:44:10 AM »
Batman and Harley Quinn was decent, I guess. Gets a 5/10 maybe.
This is my least favourite DC animated movie so far.  I couldn't get into it, and I felt that Melissa Rauch was "too much" as Harley. They should've just went with Tara Strong, IMO.
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Re: DC & Marvel Animated Discussion
« Reply #757 on: September 01, 2017, 09:44:28 AM »
I liked that Rauch had the 'Bronx' accent/harder side to Harley's personality but she didn't quite nail the fluffy/airiness of Arleen Sorkin. Same for Margot Robbie although you could see the study of BTAS in there at times (just a little lower pitched).

- Arleen Sorkin has a bit more of a bubbly/girliness to Harley's voice that most others seem to lack. Almost 'Valley Girl' with a NY edge to it.
- Hynden Walch took that aspect and made it higher in the register it felt like, felt forced and not as natural.
- Tara Strong's very solid but lacks that NY-ness that makes Harley distinctive.

I'll take the Robbie/Rauch heavy NY emphasis over the opposite end just because Harley's distinctly that character vocally. It'd be like somebody trying to affect a Mayor Quimby character or a Hank Hill type character and ignoring the importance of the accent to them.

EDIT: Give Robbie a slightly higher pitch and she is the closest I've heard to Sorkin as far as that 'tone' of NY + Valley Girl.

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Re: DC & Marvel Animated Discussion
« Reply #758 on: September 01, 2017, 09:52:58 AM »
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Re: DC & Marvel Animated Discussion
« Reply #759 on: September 01, 2017, 10:38:57 AM »
Is the character even from NY?  That over-emphasis is exactly what killed it for me in this film. I had to resist just shutting it off several times because it's so obnoxious and distracting.
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Re: DC & Marvel Animated Discussion
« Reply #760 on: September 01, 2017, 11:04:39 AM »
Is the character even from NY?  That over-emphasis is exactly what killed it for me in this film. I had to resist just shutting it off several times because it's so obnoxious and distracting.

Gotham's pretty much equated with New Jersey but Sorkin's voicing always gave her a Brooklyn accent/undertone so that's largely how I associate Harley's character as being either a native NYer or at least living there long enough to take on the accent. Arleen did it in such a manner that her high pitch obscufated the Brooklyn accent a bit rather than making it stand out at a lower pitch (which is what Rauch/Robbie do). If the latter talked at a higher pitch, the obviousness of the accent wouldn't be as noticeable IMO.