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Re: Star Trek- New movie and various series discussion
« Reply #200 on: June 05, 2013, 02:49:31 AM »
DS9 is my GOAT right now.  I enjoyed watching TNG, but this show is next level.

I'll probably watch Voyager when I eventually run through all of DS9, but I can't imagine it being this good.  Then again, that was my attitude going into DS9 so maybe I'll be surprised

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Re: Star Trek- New movie and various series discussion
« Reply #201 on: June 05, 2013, 03:06:30 AM »
I liked the movie well enough. I'm not a Star Trek fan at all. So I don't have much nitpicking.

My only complaint about the movie was the media leading up to it.

 So the bad guy in this movie, we can't say his name though, because it's a huge surprise and we can't give it away. Even though by saying this we are giving it away.

...you're basically saying it Khan then?

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« Reply #202 on: June 05, 2013, 03:12:17 AM »
I don't even remember this underwear scene everyone is talking about..
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Re: Star Trek- New movie and various series discussion
« Reply #203 on: June 05, 2013, 03:16:55 AM »
I don't even remember this underwear scene everyone is talking about..

It wasn't that bad. The chick is in bra and panties for a second. She looked great, but when the scene moved I remember thinking "that's what the fuss was about?"


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Re: Star Trek- New movie and various series discussion
« Reply #204 on: June 05, 2013, 03:18:43 AM »
Ahh, okay. The part where she tells him to turn around but he doesn't. Yeah, it was inconsequential enough for me to completely forget about it, so I don't see the big fuss.
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Re: Star Trek- New movie and various series discussion
« Reply #205 on: June 05, 2013, 03:39:57 AM »
DS9 is so good.  I'm finally working through it for the first time and am nearing the end of season 3. Way more consistent than even TNG, and only the Dax episodes ever really fall flat (and even some of those are good!  But let us never speak of the phase-shifting planet of love again). It's a great ensemble and feels way more modern than any of the other Treks.  You can really see Ron Moore getting himself geared up for what he really blew open with BSG when you get gritty, subtle stuff like Improbable Cause/The Die is Cast.

Also, I always thought Andrew Robinson was a pretty lousy actor, based on Hellraiser and Dirty Harry, but slap some Cardassian makeup on him and he's tremendous.  Garak for president.

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Re: Star Trek- New movie and various series discussion
« Reply #206 on: June 05, 2013, 03:47:24 AM »
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Re: Star Trek- New movie and various series discussion
« Reply #207 on: June 05, 2013, 05:06:56 AM »
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Re: Star Trek- New movie and various series discussion
« Reply #208 on: June 05, 2013, 12:16:50 PM »
Why don't people count Search for Spock as one of the "good" ones?  Yeah, it was probably the weakest entry in the mini-trilogy that 2, 3, and 4 make; but I'd still argue that it's a hell of a lot better than 1, 5, and maybe all of TNG's movies. 
I take it back.  Upon a rewatch, The Search for Spock is worse than it should've been.  There's a lot of high points, especially McCoy possessed by Spock, but the movie drags horribly in the middle.  Way too much time is killed just wandering around Genesis and watching the completely uninteresting young mindless Spock growing.  Even Christopher Lloyd's badassness as the villain (he was the first man to ever speak Klingon!) is dimmed when you realize that parts 2 and 6 did very similar villains and got much more out of them.  Chekov and Uhura get fuck-all to do, and I'd add Sulu onto that list too if not for the fun "don't call me tiny" moment.  The special effects also looked shabbier than in the other Trek films, like they had less money than usual. 

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« Reply #209 on: September 27, 2013, 11:48:34 AM »
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Re: Star Trek- New movie and various series discussion
« Reply #211 on: December 23, 2014, 07:19:01 AM »
 :( Well, my hopes that it wouldn't be all out action just went out the window. *sigh*

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Re: Star Trek- New movie and various series discussion
« Reply #212 on: January 22, 2015, 02:20:58 AM »
So Simon Pegg is your new co-writer

And I guess we should now expect less Fast and Furious and more Community from Lin?
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Re: Star Trek- New movie and various series discussion
« Reply #213 on: March 05, 2015, 11:56:54 AM »
http://deadline.com/2015/03/harve-bennett-dies-star-trek-movie-producer-1201387026/

Not gonna be a big deal with the general public, but having read a lot about the making of the ST films, Bennett really deserves some credit for saving the franchise from both disposable sequels and the batshit crazy plots Roddenberry wanted to do. The franchise owes a lot to both him and Nicholas Meyer for re energizing the series after the bloated mess that was TMP.


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Re: Star Trek- New movie and various series discussion
« Reply #215 on: November 02, 2015, 02:36:49 AM »
They took 13 paragraphs to basically say "there's gonna be a new Trek show... and we have absolutely NO other details to share at this time".  Press releases are the fucking worst. 

The new show's runner is Alex Kurtzman, which also doesn't exactly fill me with anticipation.  He's written THREE Michael Bay movies (including Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, the dirty cocksucker) and most of his other credits aren't things that I find impressive. 

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« Reply #216 on: November 02, 2015, 03:18:35 AM »
They took 13 paragraphs to basically say "there's gonna be a new Trek show... and we have absolutely NO other details to share at this time".  Press releases are the fucking worst. 
Sign o' the times. TV shows take an hour to tell you a 5-minute story, movies cram an entire franchise's worth of information into a 2-hour block, and a property that was just as much about political maneuvering as it was a hammy actor sticking his dick in green strange is now going to be a generic action property.
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« Reply #217 on: November 03, 2015, 08:08:47 AM »
Well that didn't take long...

http://nypost.com/2015/11/02/cbs-is-already-ruining-the-star-trek-tv-reboot/

First, “Star Trek” isn’t coming back to mainstream TV. No, Captain — it’s being banished to a doggone streaming service.

Sure, there’s nothing wrong with Netflix, Amazon Prime or Hulu — “Orange Is the New Black” and “Transparent” are terrific shows you can only catch on those services. And I reckon most TV watchers already subscribe to one of them.

But the final frontier is apparently something called CBS All Access. That’s where the new untitled “Star Trek” series will call home, a CBS-only streaming service no one uses that costs users a whopping $5.99 a month.

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Re: Star Trek- New movie and various series discussion
« Reply #218 on: December 14, 2015, 04:02:18 AM »

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Re: Star Trek- New movie and various series discussion
« Reply #219 on: December 14, 2015, 08:31:41 AM »
I cut the first film a break with the action stuff because I knew they had to attract a wide audience, and even with the second film understood there were certain plot and character elements they felt they had to do to just get them out of the way, but the third film of the reboot looking like this... I might just end up sticking with the new TV series.

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« Reply #220 on: December 14, 2015, 10:43:03 AM »
Yeah... I'm not down with this either. This is getting further and further away from what Star Trek is with each movie. It's a pity, because I like the cast.
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Re: Star Trek- New movie and various series discussion
« Reply #221 on: December 14, 2015, 12:48:50 PM »
"From the Director of 'The Fast and the Furious'"

Ohhh-kay...

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« Reply #222 on: December 14, 2015, 03:31:41 PM »
Yeah... I'm not down with this either. This is getting further and further away from what Star Trek is with each movie. It's a pity, because I like the cast.
This.  And someone should tell them it's not cool to blow up the Enterprise in the third new movie just because they blew it up in the third old movie. 

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Re: Star Trek- New movie and various series discussion
« Reply #223 on: December 16, 2015, 04:24:05 AM »
Fair point made here:


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« Reply #224 on: December 16, 2015, 05:15:37 AM »
What point?  That even if you try to edit it down to its silliest moments and use the same anachronistic song, Wrath of Khan still looks exponentially more dramatic and weighty than the new film? 

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« Reply #225 on: February 26, 2016, 08:52:38 AM »
http://variety.com/2016/digital/news/star-trek-series-nicholas-meyer-cbs-revival-1201716232/

Between this and Bryan Fuller being announced as showrunner, I do admit to being more cautiously optimistic for this than ST: Beyond.

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« Reply #226 on: February 26, 2016, 10:30:22 AM »
This is probably more Games and Tech but...

I'm actually into the story and premise of Star Trek Online. It is largely "shoot this thing until you win" based, which is totally not Trek, but it just wrapped up a pretty ambitious story arc
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« Reply #227 on: April 13, 2016, 08:50:54 AM »
Devin Faraci's claiming the new series will be set after the TOS films and before TNG.

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/04/13/the-new-star-trek-tv-show-will-be-set-before-the-next-generation

Just a rumor, but honestly I'd love to see a series set in the lost era.

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« Reply #228 on: April 13, 2016, 09:29:16 AM »
I'm down for that.

I love STO but its too gear heavy, where to really succeed in the later chapters, you have to get ship and character gear sets... and if you take more than say a month off of the game, the stuff you use with your ships does not work anymore.
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« Reply #229 on: June 19, 2016, 05:29:46 AM »
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3649368/Star-Trek-actor-Anton-Yelchin-dies-car-crash-age-27.html

Damn shame, guy had a promising career and did a great job in Green Room.

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« Reply #230 on: June 19, 2016, 06:00:33 AM »
Imagine winning the lottery of life and being a rich, young, handsome and influential member of the Hollywood elite then realizing you are about to die by being crushed by your own car because you left it in neutral.

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Re: Star Trek- New movie and various series discussion
« Reply #232 on: July 05, 2016, 07:04:49 AM »
http://nerdist.com/gene-roddenberrys-star-trek-movie-had-admiral-kirk-fighting-jesus/

"Later this month, Star Trek Beyond will become the 13th Star Trek feature film, but bringing the franchise to the big screen wasn’t always an easy process. In the ’70s, it almost didn’t happen at all. Some of series creator Gene Roddenberry‘s ideas for the initial Trek movie were far wilder than anything in Star Trek: The Motion Picture. For starters, one of Roddenberry’s early pitches would have placed Admiral James T. Kirk in conflict with Jesus Christ.

That revelation came from The Hollywood Reporter‘s excerpt from Edward Gross and Mark. A. Altman’s upcoming book, The Fifty-Year Mission: The Complete Uncensored, Unauthorized Oral History of Star Trek – The First 25 Years. As initially envisioned by Roddenberry, Admiral Kirk and the former crew of the Enterprise would be reunited when an entity heading for Earth claimed to be God. And of course, one of the forms that God would take was the familiar image of Jesus Christ."


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« Reply #233 on: July 05, 2016, 09:04:39 AM »
William Shatner vs Jesus? I would watch that movie.
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« Reply #234 on: July 05, 2016, 09:22:41 AM »
Roddenberry had all sorts of wacky ideas his producers and writers either ignored or talked him out of. "The God Thing", AKA the Enterprise encounters God movie concept was something he kicked around around ever since TOS went off the air. He supposedly kept lobbying for one of the TOS films to involve the crew going back in time on Earth to undo the Klingons preventing JFK's assassination (which somehow led to them reigning supreme in the 23rd century). The would end with Spock shooting Kennedy himself to restore the timeline.

Gene was an odd guy.

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« Reply #235 on: May 17, 2017, 09:48:06 AM »
Trailer for Discovery finally dropped



A little too JJVerse in its aesthetics for my taste (see lens flare and Klingons' appearance), but intriguing in parts.


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Re: Star Trek- New movie and various series discussion
« Reply #236 on: May 17, 2017, 01:15:50 PM »
And now you can't watch it.

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« Reply #237 on: May 17, 2017, 01:30:06 PM »
It looks ok I guess but i have no interest in a star trek series that is set in the past. If it isn't set after DS9 I probably won't watch. I'm still sad we never got any DS9 movies and instead got increasingly terrible TNG movies.


edit: nevermind just saw the klingons and lol fuck that.

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« Reply #238 on: September 26, 2017, 06:34:02 PM »
I wasn't going to watch this but 909 convinced me and the first two episodes were pretty good. I still don't like it being a prequel but if it's going to have this much action it could be fun.

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« Reply #239 on: September 27, 2017, 02:06:14 AM »
I watched the first two episodes but watched them at like 2 a.m. while tired. So I'm going to have to rewatch them.
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« Reply #240 on: September 27, 2017, 02:20:46 AM »
i still hate how the klingons look and i don't care if they come up with some dumb explanation for it and how it changes. IT AINT COOL