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Re: UFC 214: Cormier v. Jones 2
« Reply #100 on: August 22, 2017, 12:26:23 PM »
The thing that bothers me the most is that Big John was ready to let DC become a vegetable at the end of that fight, against somebody who was shooting stuff in their ass and cheating once again. I don't know how this sport moves on from that exactly. This sport is too dangerous for these kinds of things to happen in combination with one another.

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Re: UFC 214: Cormier v. Jones 2
« Reply #101 on: August 22, 2017, 12:29:24 PM »
hahahahahaha

and they want to put the title back on DC after he got his knocked into the 12th row.


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Re: UFC 214: Cormier v. Jones 2
« Reply #102 on: August 22, 2017, 01:04:49 PM »
DC didn't wanna cut to 205 anymore, so I don't think he's going along with that.

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Re: UFC 214: Cormier v. Jones 2
« Reply #104 on: August 22, 2017, 02:28:22 PM »
My favorite for sure, apparently, there is also a regular guy named Daniel Cormier on Twitter, and he and the other Jon Jones had a fun exchange:

https://twitter.com/jonjones/status/900164827926102017

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Re: UFC 214: Cormier v. Jones 2
« Reply #105 on: August 22, 2017, 04:20:49 PM »
The ramifications for the sport with this in combination with Conor on Saturday are going to be absolutely massive, and the hot takes are going to be flying all over the place. May be taking Sunday off from the internet.

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Re: UFC 214: Cormier v. Jones 2
« Reply #106 on: August 23, 2017, 01:01:04 AM »
If Conor gets knocked out in the first or second we're looking at probably the worst week ever for mma.

Dana also said in the media scrum after the Contenders show last night that they wanted Stipe vs Jones for the Detroit main event. Sorry, YNA.

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« Reply #107 on: August 23, 2017, 08:25:21 AM »
Who is "they" because Bones seemed to make it pretty apparent that outside of a Brock fight, he wanted no part in a HW fight.  Maybe he meant that's what UFC was hoping to do.
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Re: UFC 214: Cormier v. Jones 2
« Reply #108 on: August 24, 2017, 12:58:08 AM »
"They" would be Dana and Sean Shelby I imagine. Dana said that a Gustafson rematch or moving up to HW and challenging Stipe for the belt were the two top options for Jones.

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Re: UFC 214: Cormier v. Jones 2
« Reply #109 on: August 25, 2017, 04:43:55 PM »
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/phil-baroni-usada-knew-jon-jones-was-using-the-whole-time.3604495/

I thought this too

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Get that fat little skinny bald prick, that USADA homo on here. If he wants to go one on one with the Badass.

I'm all natural. I have a biology major."

bah gawd phil you can't throw 'homo' slurs in 2017 but MMA is a junk industry so nobody will care anyway. he's right about jon though imo. The shit he says about steroids in MMA are mad fuckin' real, I bet if lindland wasn't on EPO's that Phil woulda pounded Woogie's face in.

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Re: UFC 214: Cormier v. Jones 2
« Reply #110 on: August 25, 2017, 04:46:32 PM »
The thing he says in the beginning about PRIDE guys stopping the juice because they didn't realize that all the UFC fighters were still on them was craaaazy.

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"Listen it's impossible, unless he took the fucking shit the week of the fight, then he couldn't have been caught! They knew.

But it was a big fight. DC was expendable to them. They knew it. They didn't care if he got a concussion, got knocked out. There's no way they found out just after the fight. They knew the whole time.

nobody else spits this fire, mma journos are soft.

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Re: UFC 214: Cormier v. Jones 2
« Reply #111 on: August 26, 2017, 03:47:32 AM »
I don't know if I believe Baroni about the post-Pride guys coming over. Not all of them got big main events for their first fight and lost to average guys. I'm not saying I don't think it could be true that the UFC guys were on juice at the time, but it felt more like the Pride guys coming off it.

It's amazing to me that Baroni seems more calm and has his head on straight more than Bonnar at this point.


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Re: UFC 214: Cormier v. Jones 2
« Reply #112 on: August 26, 2017, 06:44:16 AM »
Yeah once Bonnar got on, that interview went off the rails. Phil seems a little skittish but he tries to keep it together and is still jovial. Bonnar just came off as bitter and a bit out there. The Trump stuff was bizarre, like who was he complaining about with the Fox News stuff? I stopped p. quickly after he came on, which sucks because Phil doesn't put out a lot of interviews.

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Re: UFC 214: Cormier v. Jones 2
« Reply #113 on: August 26, 2017, 07:04:50 AM »
Also, wrt your disagreement, I'll throw up Shogun/Forrest. A guy that trained at Xtreme Couture who was as huge and ripped as Forrest that could fight the war of attrition style where he never gets tired even over five rounds against a warrior like Rampage. That's p. much how he won the fight against Shogun, and I have a hard time believing he didn't get help.



This is what he dealt with in the first round.



This is what happened at the end, because Forrest was somehow as fresh as he was in beginning despite the punishment and output, while the effects of the war had taken their toll on Shogun.

This fight was just off memory, I'm sure if I looked up 2007-2008 UFC fights I could find other obvious examples.

I mean it's funny, I actually remember the 'hype' surrounding this weigh-in photo:



a guy as uncoordinated as forrest shouldn't be that huge, strong and somehow have a 12-pack too. I don't buy it.

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Re: UFC 214: Cormier v. Jones 2
« Reply #114 on: September 01, 2017, 04:44:42 PM »
Meltz - It was revealed today that Jon Jones passed the blood test that USADA administered following his fight against Daniel Cormier. After that news broke, a USADA spokesperson released a statement that confirmed that Turinabol was the substance that caused Jones' failed test and that it is only tested for in their urine screenings, meaning that it wouldn't have been tested for in the one taken after the fight.

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Re: UFC 214: Cormier v. Jones 2
« Reply #115 on: September 12, 2017, 12:28:03 PM »
B sample came back positive. Game motherfucking over.

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Re: UFC 214: Cormier v. Jones 2
« Reply #116 on: September 13, 2017, 05:10:27 AM »
The fight has been overturned to a no contest. Give the clean fighter his fucking belt back please.

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Re: UFC 214: Cormier v. Jones 2
« Reply #117 on: September 13, 2017, 07:32:56 AM »
Doesn't Cormier not want to be in 205 due to the weight cut?

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Re: UFC 214: Cormier v. Jones 2
« Reply #118 on: September 13, 2017, 11:38:31 AM »
Doesn't Cormier not want to be in 205 due to the weight cut?

He has apparently changed his mind and said that financially he needs to have it and won't decline it.

The belt was given back to him.

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Re: UFC 214: Cormier v. Jones 2
« Reply #119 on: September 13, 2017, 05:15:15 PM »
I'm not a fan of Jones as a person. But as a fighter he's must see. This sucks, he could have been the first fighter to ever clean out a division. Move up on weight. And do it again. GSP, Anderson, and Jose all dominated without moving up. I think Jones could have done it. I think DJ's size will keep him from doing so.

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Re: UFC 214: Cormier v. Jones 2
« Reply #120 on: September 14, 2017, 01:02:28 AM »
I think you could argue Jones DID clean out a division. The only top level fighter who he never got matched up against was Rumble.

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Re: UFC 214: Cormier v. Jones 2
« Reply #121 on: September 14, 2017, 01:15:30 AM »
I think you could argue Jones DID clean out a division. The only top level fighter who he never got matched up against was Rumble.

He absolutely did. What I meant was I think he's the only guy that could have moved up in weight and done it again.

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Re: UFC 214: Cormier v. Jones 2
« Reply #122 on: September 14, 2017, 01:17:54 AM »
It's certainly a big questions mark but I think it's worth noting that Jones knew he'd have a tough time at HW, he was already making up excuses for why he might lose to Stipe after he won the belt back in July. I still would have loved to have seen the attempt though.

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Re: UFC 214: Cormier v. Jones 2
« Reply #123 on: September 16, 2017, 04:56:26 AM »