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Title: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Super Leather on June 25, 2009, 05:42:44 AM
I'd like to discuss the various books out there regarding the True Sport of Kings. Be it the biographies, histories, whatever. I've got most of the noteworthy books on the topic, but here's a start:

HAVE A NICE DAY: I didn't actually pick this up until years after it'd been published. By then, I'd already read several wrestler biographies, so it didn't have the same impact as it would have had I read it in 1999. A fine read, although Foley's constant self-deprecation borders on attention whoring after a while.

FOLEY IS GOOD: Not bad if you stop reading it after the episode with the Mickey Mouse girl at Disneyland. The epilogue in which Foley takes on the PTC and the other anti-WWF watchdog groups gets old quickly.

THE HARDCORE DIARIES: I wouldn't have bought this book myself, but a friend got it for me as a birthday present last year. Did we really need THREE volumes of the Mick Foley Memoirs? No. Although I'm a fan of the Foley/Edge vs. Funk/Dreamer match, Foley really needed to get over himself and get out of WWE.

IN THE PIT WITH PIPER: Piper either doesn't understand or doesn't care that we actually wanted to read an in-depth account of his life and career. Instead, what we got was an extended Roddy Piper promo with a ton of factual and historical errors. I was left wanting more out of one of my all-time favorite wrestlers. Check out his shoot interview with RF Video instead.

PURE DYNAMITE: Nobody ever seems to be able to find a copy of this book unless it's online. However, I came across it at a Barnes & Noble in Berkeley, of all places. Go me! I would have preferred to have seen things portrayed in a more positive light, but I can't help but laugh at some of the sadism displayed in stiffing other wrestlers or pulling ribs on them.

THE RISE AND FALL OF ECW: Little to no difference between the book and the DVD, although it's good to get the dates for particular cards as well as the rundown of what matches took place. Otherwise, I'd stick with Hardcore History instead.

RING OF HELL: I wrote a review of this one on my blog, and I'm going to say the same things about it here: If this were somebody's blog or a Wikipedia entry, it'd probably be okay. Unfortunately, it was a $25 hardcover book instead. If you ask me, that commands a higher standard of research and writing. But if Randazzo could get a wrestling book published using the research material that he has, all of us should be getting book deals any day now.

HITMAN: I'm reading this book again right now. It's safe to say that Hitman is my favorite of all the wrestler autobiographies. I think Bret Hart maintains a balanced perspective most of the time, and you can tell that he really did love the business and his fellow wrestlers. His post-Montreal/post-Owen attitude grated on me after a while, but this book gave me a new understanding of why that was. A fine companion to the Bret Hart DVD.
Title: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on June 25, 2009, 06:15:02 AM
Jericho's Around the World in Spandex is the best by far, but I say this without having read Bret Hart's book.
Title: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: The ghost of bps21 on June 25, 2009, 06:28:56 AM
"Did we really need THREE volumes of the Mick Foley Memoirs"

Stay tuned...his 4th one is being written right now.
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Post by: Bernie Bro Kamala on June 25, 2009, 06:41:30 AM
Jericho's Around the World in Spandex is the best by far, but I say this without having read Bret Hart's book.

Jericho's has displaced Have A Nice Day as my #1 wrestling book. The description of The Strange Kentucky People video and the part about Karl Moffat putting a bounty on Jericho's tag team partner (can't recall his name off the top of my head) and the ensuing result had me literally banging my fist on the table, laughing. It's rare for anything to induce that reaction in me but Jericho's book did it twice.

Bret Hart's book is very, very good but his narcissism is mildly annoying. I'd rank it a bit behind Jericho and Foley's first one. Foley Is Good is entertaining for the first two-thirds or so but as the original poster said, his ranting against the PTC gets extremely annoying really quick. The other three I've read are Ted DiBiase's first autobiography, Goldberg's book (given to me as a Christmas gift), and the first WrestleCrap book, all of which sucked to varying degrees. DiBiase (the only mildly interesting parts were when he was talking about his childhood) and the WrestleCrap ones (it basically just seemed like the site in book form...perhaps the moment when the site jumped the shark) were real letdowns but I was kind of expecting crap from Goldberg's book.

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Post by: Adam on June 25, 2009, 06:43:33 AM
I'm only three chapters into 'HITMAN' but already it's great. It's the little things Bret speaks with, like the mini-story about how Owen turned on his sisters when asked to move in with his brothers, was pure gold. I look forward to reading the rest of the book.

Also, I never found any trouble finding Pure Dynamite, its a great read too, although you do feel kind of sorry for the guy after you finish and you realise what happened to him.

This will be an odd call and probably nobody will agree with me, but Jerry Lawler's book was a fun read.

Edit: To Kamala, I found DiBiase's book very interesting, especially as I don't know much about the guy. I wasn't aware that he had potential in other sports like he did.
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Post by: HTQ on June 25, 2009, 06:47:51 AM
The first Foley book is great while the second is 'only' really good. Bret's book is both enthralling and disturbing at the same time; Bret's formative years in the business make it come across like such a sleazy and disgusting deal that you're left wondering why anybody would stick with it for more than five minutes.

I skimmed the Jericho book and it looked informative but I haven't read it in depth. I'd recommend people get a hold of Jim Cornette's recently released book in the Midnight Express.
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Post by: Springtime for Epic on June 25, 2009, 06:54:57 AM
I've only read a few but out of the ones I read, Foley's first book was indeed the best. I liked how Foley went in depth about his life before wrestling.

I've also read The Rock's book (which sucked since half the freakin' book is written in character), Stone Cold's (which was ok), Flair's (which was good), the Wrestlecrap book (which, like Kamala said is pretty much the website in book form), and the Death of WCW (which I enjoyed a lot).
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Post by: Bernie Bro Kamala on June 25, 2009, 06:56:22 AM
Has anybody read JJ Dillon's book? I bet he has some fascinating stories to tell given the fact that he was one of Vince's right hand men during one of the WWF's low points and a higher up with WCW in its final years (not to mention hanging out with Flair in the '80s)
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Post by: KingPK on June 25, 2009, 10:58:16 AM
Imagine if Jim Cornette wrote an autobiography about his entire career?  Fucker would be about 2,000 pages.  I might check out that Midnight Express book though.

I think Bret's and Jericho's are my favorites.  Bret doesn't pull any punches and is pretty forthcoming about a lot of things while Jericho's is just a fun read.  I tried to reread Shawn Michaels' book and couldn't get through it because I got sick of the whining and "it wasn't MY fault" crap I seem to have missed the first time.

I would be all over a Vince autobiography in a second.
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Post by: Big Beard Booty Daddy on June 25, 2009, 01:02:31 PM
I'm surprised there isn't more love on here for William Regal's book. It was an amazing read. He really didn't hold back anything. I have to find my copy of it and read it again after I reread Bruce Campbell's 2 books.
Title: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: alkeiper on June 25, 2009, 01:16:47 PM
Books I've Read and Give a Full Recommendation:
Have a Nice Day
Pure Dynamite
Hitman
The Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame: The Heels
The Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame: The Tag Teams
National Wrestling Alliance
Listen, You Pencil Neck Geeks

Mild Recommendation:
Foley Is Good
Bobby the Brain (Amusing, it's just 90% anecdotes.  I get the feeling his co-author conducted the interview and did little to edit it.)

Did Not Like:
The Hardcore Diaries
Tonight, In This Very Ring
Andre the Giant

I can not say enough bad things about Andre's biography.  It is seriously 80% articles from 1980s WWF magazine, written in kayfabe.  Absolutely terrible, uninformative and uninteresting.
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Post by: Bernie Bro Kamala on June 25, 2009, 01:48:15 PM
I'm surprised there isn't more love on here for William Regal's book. It was an amazing read. He really didn't hold back anything. I have to find my copy of it and read it again after I reread Bruce Campbell's 2 books.

I've heard it's good but it wasn't really well-promoted. Hell, I didn't know it was out until months after it was released.
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Post by: ChrisMWaters on June 25, 2009, 02:29:34 PM
The Death of WCW

By RD Reynolds & Brian Alveraz.
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Post by: Scroby on June 25, 2009, 02:54:03 PM
I've been pretty lucky with all the books I've read, I've really only hated the Rock's book. That book was horrible. So fucking horrible. It actually made me steer clear of Austin's and Angle's book in the fear that they would be like the Rock's book.

DDP: I liked this book mainly because of his time before he got into wrestling. His stories about running a club and other things is pretty interesting.

Chris Jericho: I really really liked this book but he sorta came off as egotistic in the book and that really bugged me.

Ric Flair, Freddie Blassie, Terry Funk, Bobby Heenan's books, Bischoff, The Death of WCW, Piper, Pure Dynamite are all really enjoyable books.

Bret Hart: I'm currently reading his book and I'm really enjoying it. The fact that it's so detailed and informative makes it one of the best books I've read yet.

Mick Foley: I liked all 3 books, even the Hardcore Diaries. Finding out how Vince McMahon or the writing team kaboshed Foley's ideas that were actually really good made the book really interesting for me.
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Post by: The ghost of bps21 on June 25, 2009, 02:59:18 PM
The only problem with that Bret Hart book is that every other chapter he makes sure you know that so and so told him he was the greatest wrestler of all time.

Other than that...it was probably my favorite book.  That one or Pure Dynamite or Foley is Good.  Those 3 are at the top.
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Post by: Psycho Penguin on June 25, 2009, 03:12:37 PM
Death of WCW - Utterly fantastic.

Edge - Solid.

Batista - Solid. Lots of funny stories, not as much wrestling stuff.

Stone Cold - Decent.

Rock - Terrible.

Chyna - Okay.

Mick Foley - Great, good, good.

Jericho - The best wrestler book.

Wrestlecrap Book of Lists - Okay.

Tonight In This Very Ring - Nice to get a history lesson and remember how much stuff sucked, but it sure is biased.

Wow, I've read a lot more than I figured I did.
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Post by: Jingus on June 25, 2009, 05:03:34 PM
One that never gets mentioned enough is Lou Thesz's book Hooker.  (To explain, "hooker" was ancient-school carny lingo for a shooter.)  It's been out of print forever and was never widely released anyway, so it's hard to find anywhere but on Ebay.  It's not only Thesz's story, but practically a history book about the entire business of wrestling over the course of the twentieth century.  Lou certainly has his own biases (damn he hated Antonio Rocca), but he doesn't seem to kayfabe anything and tells a shitload of old stories that you'd never hear anywhere else. 

Co-sign on Jericho's book and Death of WCW too, both a whole lot of fun.   

Mick Foley: I liked all 3 books, even the Hardcore Diaries. Finding out how Vince McMahon or the writing team kaboshed Foley's ideas that were actually really good made the book really interesting for me.
This.  I don't get the whining about Foley being whiny.  Sure he complains a lot, but if the stories were all factual, he did have a lot to complain about.  I actually liked it better than Foley is Good, which seemed like half a book's worth of wrestling stories padded out to interminable length with Mick rambling about roller coasters and the PTC and charity work and anything else that came to mind. 

BTW, anyone ever read any of Mick's novels?  I caught Tietam Brown, and damn that was dark.  Foley has issues. 

Chyna - Okay.
LIES.  Unless you just enjoyed getting a preview at how fucking crazy this woman is, long before her various public indiscretions. 
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Post by: mellow on June 25, 2009, 05:55:46 PM
I think it's a crime that Heenan's autobiography gets largely ignored. Everything, from how he came up to working for the WWF during their peak in the 80's to jumping to WCW and so on was either informative, entertaining or an excellent mix of both.

His second book... not so much.
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Post by: I Know You Like Sugar on June 25, 2009, 09:52:34 PM
The only problem with that Bret Hart book is that every other chapter he makes sure you know that so and so told him he was the greatest wrestler of all time.

I can believe that. I'm reading a magazine interview with him now, where he's been asked one question, "what did you think of HHH/Orton at WM?" In three paragraphs, he's basically put over Bret/Owen WMX, put over Bret/Austin WM13 and called HHH a "Bret Hart wannabee". A Ric Flair wannabee? Sure. A Harley Race wannabee? I can buy that. A Bret Hart wannabee!? Where's he getting that one from!?


I'll add Goldberg to the list and shamefully admit to having bought it. I don't think I made it halfway through. I did like Shawn's and I thought Hardcore Diaries was interesting too.
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Post by: Bigelow34 on June 26, 2009, 12:31:56 AM
I will agree that the best part of Page's book was his pre-wrestling stuff. His early wrestling stuff was good too, but once he got to 1997 or so he went kayfabe style and it went right down hill.

My favorites are the usuals: Bret, Jericho and Foleys. Dynamite's too.

Gary Michael Capetta's was a pretty fun read too.
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Post by: Adam on June 26, 2009, 12:37:08 AM
I will agree that the best part of Page's book was his pre-wrestling stuff.

This is the same with Dave Batista too.
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Post by: luke-o on June 26, 2009, 02:03:34 AM
The Death of WCW

By RD Reynolds & Brian Alveraz.

^This.

It's a great read.
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Post by: Sabre on June 26, 2009, 02:18:16 AM
Ive read both the original Foley books and they were great.  Keep meaning to pick up #3 tho.

Ive read Austins book and its a nice read, but it doesnt tell us anything besides what we already knew.

Ive also got HBKs book, keep meaning to read it, but never got around to it.
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Post by: Rock Star From Mars on June 26, 2009, 02:38:16 AM
Chyna's is notable for her, of all people, calling Goldberg a crap wrestler, and accusing Sable of having an ego.
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Post by: Youth N Asia on June 26, 2009, 04:48:51 AM
1. Jericho
2. Foley's Have a Nice Day
3. Pure Dynamite
4. Hitman
5. Bobby the Brain's first book.

Foley's 3rd book was all kinds of nothing special.

Jericho's blew me away. Great storyteller.

DDP's book sucked. Sh#t like this was annoying to read. Plus I didn't care about his club days.
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Post by: Bernie Bro Kamala on June 26, 2009, 05:44:44 AM
Oh yeah---time for a mildly embarrassing confession, I forgot to mention I own an unauthorized biography of Chyna. I bought it for a buck or two on clearance at a book store near my camp. It was about as good as you'd expect an unauthorized biography of Chyna to be (which is not at all).
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Post by: Bigelow34 on June 26, 2009, 07:51:34 AM
I have it too. My wife worked for a NPO in Stamford four years back. They had a fundraiser and WWE donated a box of stuff. They didn't need it all or there were some duplicates, so she brought that and the History of IC Title DVD home. I still havent read it. I do find it funny that Chyna had been gone for like four years and they still included it in the package.
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Post by: oldskool on June 26, 2009, 09:06:05 AM
I'm surprised there isn't more love on here for William Regal's book. It was an amazing read. He really didn't hold back anything. I have to find my copy of it and read it again after I reread Bruce Campbell's 2 books.

I've heard it's good but it wasn't really well-promoted. Hell, I didn't know it was out until months after it was released.

Regal was in town for a book signing and I didn't find out until a half hour after he left the store for RAW. There was absolutely zero promotion for the signing, let alone the actual book.
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Post by: Damaramu on June 26, 2009, 01:55:39 PM
I loved Hitman's book for the stories, but he sure was full of himself throughout the book. Especially when everyone constantly told him he was the best and the man and how he had to remind us he was loved EVERYWHERE.
Oh and I didn't get his constant bashing of Dave Meltzer before turning around and raving about how many stars he got in the WON or how he liked what was said about him.
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Post by: Psycho Penguin on June 26, 2009, 04:28:20 PM
Oh I forgot I read HBK's book. It has a lot of interesting stories but it's hard to know what's a lie and what's the truth.
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Post by: Smues on June 26, 2009, 04:55:01 PM
Read:
Bret Hart, All three of Foley, The rock, Kurt Angle, WrestleCrap, the Death of WCW, The Buzz on Wrestling, Dungeon of Death.

Of those The Rock' is awful, Kurt Angle's wasn't anything special, and The Buzz on Wrestling was really written for the marks and no one else. Foley's 3rd book doesn't touch the first two but I still enjoyed it. Dungeon of death is just depressing.

Own but haven't read:
Bischoff, Chris Jericho, every Scott Keith book that i haven't read, Dibiase.

And I intend to get Chyna's book just to torture myself, ditto Piper. And to not torture myself I want to get Edge, Heenan, and Regal's books.

Has anyone read Diana Hart's Under the Mat? I remember hearing it was quite terrible and I'd really like to read it, but it sells for $100+ online so I guess i'll never get to see it.
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Post by: Jebus on June 26, 2009, 05:15:48 PM
Has anyone read Diana Hart's Under the Mat? I remember hearing it was quite terrible and I'd really like to read it, but it sells for $100+ online so I guess i'll never get to see it.

If you're a member of any of the big pro wrestling torrent sites, the PDF file of it should still be there.
It should on rapidshare too.
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Post by: Smues on June 26, 2009, 05:37:36 PM
Wow I can't believe how easy that was.

Quote
I'm so dumb I didn't even know it was abuse. There I was in Florida, surrounded by crackhead wrestlers with my husband, Davey Smith, aka The British Bulldog, doping my juice nightly so he could rape me while I was unconscious.

That's the FIRST paragraph. This is going to be awesome
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Post by: timmy8271 on June 26, 2009, 06:28:50 PM
The Bret book is great until he goes to WCW, then it gets sad and depressing. I haven't read Foley's 1st in a while but Jericho's Book is so awesome that it might overtake that as number 1.

Anyone read the Stampede book? I've been trying to read it for the last 6 months but I just can't get into it. Mostly has to do with the author's style.
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Post by: Damaramu on June 27, 2009, 03:55:08 AM
Didn't Bret say Diana's book was just kind of bitter and half-true?

I've read:

Bret Hart's Book: Like I said earlier, it's a good read I just hate how in love with himself he is and how he's so hypocritical about Meltzer.

Foley's 3 Books: Loved the first, hated the second, loved the third.

Sex, Lies and Headlocks: I'm pretty sure half of this book was misinformation or half-truths. There were so many errors that jumped out at me.

Controversy Creates Cash: This is a good book, but like the Bret Hart book Bischoff is in love with himself. Also he never did anything wrong in WCW's downfall. At least according to him.

And that's pretty much it. I thumbed through Ring of Hell but I'm pretty sure half of the book was false information.
Can anyone recommend HBK's book? I read a few things in it and I just couldn't tell what was true and what Shawn serving his ego.
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Post by: mellow on June 27, 2009, 05:44:50 AM
Controversy Creates Cash: This is a good book, but like the Bret Hart book Bischoff is in love with himself. Also he never did anything wrong in WCW's downfall. At least according to him.

That's one of the strikes that E's book has against it. He would have you believe that he never made any bad decisions. That said, I never realized that he made so many sacrifices during the dying days of the AWA. That was one of the most interesting parts of the book.

Lots of other fascinating stories, such as his experience visiting North Korea for the Collision in Korea joint show, Time Warner suddenly wanting more hands-on control of WCW once it became a solvent product, the attempts to purchase WCW through Fusient Media and finally becoming a WWE talent make this a book that I would recommend.
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Post by: Jingus on June 27, 2009, 06:01:06 AM
Bischoff's stories about his first few years running WCW were pretty good, though looking at some of the biases and exaggerations in other parts it does make me wonder about how accurate it was.  But once they reach the bad times from '98 onward, he goes into total Snitksy mode, making countless excuses for why nothing was his fault, and frequently skipping ahead months at a time and ignoring important bits; the words "Arquette, David" are never once mentioned, for example. 

Sex, Lies and Headlocks: I'm pretty sure half of this book was misinformation or half-truths. There were so many errors that jumped out at me.
Did you read the hardback edition?  Supposedly it had a bunch of errors in it, but I've never been able to have anyone give me a list of exactly what.  I've got the paperback version, which was supposedly heavily proofread and corrected, and there aren't many inaccuracies that I spotted in there. 
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Post by: Smues on June 27, 2009, 06:05:30 AM
You know who really needs to write a book about his wrestling career? Warrior. It'd be 5,000 pages, but I'd read every word.
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Post by: Bernie Bro Kamala on June 27, 2009, 06:12:26 AM
Oh yes, a Warrior autobiography would be a bastion of unintentional comedy. I imagine it'd be written in all caps.
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Post by: Adam on June 27, 2009, 06:30:34 AM
Oh yes, a Warrior autobiography would be a bastion of unintentional comedy. I imagine it'd be written in all caps.

From UltimateWarrior.com:

Jacko. Finally, he beat it.
By admin

I imagine all the crying about the death of this recent drug-soused entertainment freak has most to do with the unfortunate inconvenience that the other drug-soused entertainment freaks now face. They will have to look for another local, safe and reputable babysitter. No longer will they be able to drop their kids off down the street at Jacko’s to be watched for the afternoon and spend some play time with his own kids.

I hate the paparazzi, and think they should all be shot for the obsessive invasion of privacy. But I’m really going miss ALL those TMZ and Entertainment Tonight video clips of Jacko’s and other celebrity kids playing together. You ever see any of those? Weren’t they great? Didn’t they make you feel all warm and fuzzy on the inside? Worked for me. Every time I caught one it made me believe maybe he wasn’t a pedophile. After all, famous and rich entertainers, with all kinds of money to go to any expense to have things accurately checked out for themselves, wouldn’t let their own little babies near a pedophile…would they?!

Well, you gotta give him credit for one thing. He spent all his money (and then some) before he died. And that’s not an easy thing to calculate. Go ahead, ask your financial planner if he has a plan to pull it off. For all the horrific mismanagement of millions and millions and millions of dollars, here at the end, Jacko did a pretty damn good job at balancing the books in his favor. Sorry, at my new age and with the way the Obama economic plan is going, I couldn’t help but recognize this stunner.

Your Founding Father of Intense Sarcasm…

Always Believe, Warrior
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Post by: Damaramu on June 27, 2009, 07:47:41 AM
Yeah it was the hardcover version of Sex, Lies and Headlocks that I read.

Another thing about Bret's book that bugs me. His constant dogging on other good workers like he felt threatened by them. Well he really only did it to Flair and Dean Malenko but damn. He was all over Flair.

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Post by: HTQ on June 27, 2009, 08:06:05 AM
I loved the Bret Hart book but it did get tiresome with the constant knocks on Flair. A criticism here and there, over something major, is understandable, but Bret did seem to take every opportunity to knock Flair. Then again, it's not like Flair went out of his way to be diplomatic about Bret; Flair took shot after shot at Bret, some of them cheap, either in his book or while doing interviews to promote it.

A lot of the problem, and you see it a lot when top guys criticize other top guys or people they don't think are that good while others do, is down to the style of wrestling they were brought up with or have been educated into thinking is the right way to do things. Batista criticized TNA, specifically AJ Styles, saying that they did wasn't wrestling. What TNA and Styles do is wrestling, but to Batista, it wasn't the style he's been taught is the correct way to do things, so in his mind it really isn't wrestling. Vince McMahon has apparently said that there's no such thing as a good lucha libre match, and he is known for hating that style of wrestling, when that obviously isn't the case. Generally, such criticisms boil down to having a narrow view of wrestling and an inability or unwillingness to see things in any other way but your own.

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Post by: oldskool on June 27, 2009, 08:07:16 AM
Which Heenan book is most recommended: Bobby the Brain, or Chair Shots & Other Obstacles?
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Post by: The Real DXP on June 27, 2009, 08:52:21 AM
Bobby The Brain is more biographical, Chair Shots appears to be a self-help styled book.
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Post by: Youth N Asia on June 27, 2009, 11:05:52 AM
Both of Bobby's books are worth reading. First one is better. Secound one deals a lot with his cancer.
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Post by: Super Leather on June 27, 2009, 08:40:49 PM
I liked Pain and Passion a lot. You can tell Heath McCoy loves his Stampede Wrestling, yet he pulls no punches when discussing the bad aspects of the promotion or its wrestlers.

The book that I have a hard time getting into is National Wrestling Alliance. And I really want to get into it too, for the obvious history lessons.

You know what book I actually don't like that much? Eddie Guerrero's. I felt like it was a generic WWE autobiography, with little effort made to tell the story in Eddie's voice. Instead it was like the story was being told by an Eddie Guerrero impressionist.

I've read some of Scott Keith's books in the store or at the library, but I won't go so far as to actually spend good money on any of them. I was quite late for the game on this whole internet wrestling fan thing, so he and his writing style are irrelevant to me. Whenever I read his stuff, I can't help but think that in life, I generally try not to do things that are lame. Because, well, they're lame and why would I waste my time when I could do something I liked? So why would Scott Keith write multiple books about the WWF when it's obvious that he can't stand watching it?

What's this Dungeon of Death book? Has anyone read the book about the St. Louis territory? What do you think of the Bruiser Brody biography written by his widow?
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Post by: Rock Star From Mars on June 28, 2009, 12:34:42 AM
Didn't Bret say Diana's book was just kind of bitter and half-true?

 

Yeah, having read a copy online, some of it is true, some of it sounds like it easily could be true (the sleazy stuff about Stu Hart, mostly) but some of it is totally bullshit. One example is her claiming Bret pressured all the wrestlers to walk out after Montreal, when Foley has said himself Bret tried to talk him out of it. There's also a weird bit where she claims Bret and Martha were having an affair, with no proof, other than he was comforting her in the days following her husband's death.

That the publishers removed it from shelves after about a week, suggests they realized it was bullshit, too.
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Post by: Rock Star From Mars on June 28, 2009, 12:35:01 AM
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Post by: Bernie Bro Kamala on June 28, 2009, 03:45:51 AM
For what it's worth, Bret said in his book that a lot of the more lurid accusations in Diana's book were completely fabricated by her ghost writer and Diana wasn't happy with how it turned out.
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Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on June 28, 2009, 03:53:00 AM
So why would Scott Keith write multiple books about the WWF when it's obvious that he can't stand watching it?

Scooter has to pay the food bill somehow. He has no scruples (or time to research what he's writing).
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Post by: Damaramu on June 28, 2009, 06:50:27 AM
What lurid stories did she tell about Stu Hart in her book?
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Post by: Rock Star From Mars on June 28, 2009, 08:04:38 AM
What lurid stories did she tell about Stu Hart in her book?

The first one that springs to mind is that she said he used to drive around in fancy cars, and generally throwing money around, while sending the kids to school wearing rags. Martha mentioned that in her book too, so there's probably some truth to that.
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Post by: HTQ on June 28, 2009, 08:06:12 AM
What lurid stories did she tell about Stu Hart in her book?

The first one that springs to mind is that she said he used to drive around in fancy cars, and generally throwing money around, while sending the kids to school wearing rags. Martha mentioned that in her book too, so there's probably some truth to that.
Bret said much the same thing in his book. He explained it as Stu wanting to project a public image of prosperity
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Post by: Wrestlemania/Limp Bizkit WINNER on June 28, 2009, 08:08:36 AM
He used to scoop up cat shit with the same spatula he used to flip pancakes!
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Post by: Bernie Bro Kamala on June 28, 2009, 08:09:00 AM
He had a wrestling alligator in the Dungeon!
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Post by: Adam on June 28, 2009, 08:24:33 AM
ARM BAR!
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Post by: Tawren on June 28, 2009, 08:27:03 AM
I liked Pain and Passion a lot. You can tell Heath McCoy loves his Stampede Wrestling, yet he pulls no punches when discussing the bad aspects of the promotion or its wrestlers.


Agreed on this, Pain and Passion is really good. It's very informative, and I'd love to see similar books about other territories. It's not perfect, I'd like to have seen more context about the time period and such, but it's a great read.
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Post by: UterusJuice on June 28, 2009, 08:42:27 AM
Jericho's book would have probably been my favourite of all-time had he discussed his time in WWE up until that point. It was a very entertaining read and doesn't seem to be ghost written. As it stands, Bret's is probably the best if you want all the gossip that happened in the 80's and 90's. If you are into entertaining reads, Foley's first 2 books are the best. Rock's and Hogan's books were the 2 worst i've read so far.
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Post by: Sabre on June 28, 2009, 09:35:20 AM
Apparntly Jericho purposely ended his book where he did so he can do a sequel down the line.
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Post by: Youth N Asia on June 28, 2009, 12:55:52 PM
Apparntly Jericho purposely ended his book where he did so he can do a sequel down the line.

yeah, that was pretty much a given, which is cool, cause it was still a big book and I can't wait for the next one.
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Post by: Damaramu on June 28, 2009, 02:19:20 PM
So where exactly does Jericho's book end?

So in HBK's book does it really delve into the Klique and stories from the 90's or is it kind of a "Hey we didn't do anything wrong!" accounting of things?
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Post by: mellow on June 28, 2009, 02:21:31 PM
So where exactly does Jericho's book end?

Literally right before he walks out of the curtain to make his debut bantering with The Rock.
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Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on June 29, 2009, 01:00:21 AM
I've heard that Jericho is waiting for his retirement to finish and publish part two partly so that it will be complete and partly so that he won't have to worry about the WWE demanding any editorial changes.
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Post by: mellow on June 29, 2009, 02:43:06 AM
I've heard that Jericho is waiting for his retirement to finish and publish part two partly so that it will be complete and partly so that he won't have to worry about the WWE demanding any editorial changes.

Good. I'm not a big fan of the bios released under the WWE umbrella, with, of course, a few notable exceptions (Flair, Foley, etc.).
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Post by: KingPK on July 14, 2009, 02:49:17 PM
In the July 1 Observer it said that Jericho is planning to release another book sometime next year that would cover his WWF days and his hiatus.
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Post by: ChrisMWaters on July 14, 2009, 02:51:42 PM
In the July 1 Observer it said that Jericho is planning to release another book sometime next year that would cover his WWF days and his hiatus.
The title will be "For You Parasitic Hypocrites."
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Post by: UterusJuice on July 22, 2009, 05:00:53 PM
Despite all the typos i'm enjoying the Ring Of Hell Book. Inoki is INSANE.
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Post by: Smues on August 04, 2009, 10:07:21 AM
I read Bischoff's book on Sunday. It was certainly interesting, but I tend to believe that most of what Bischoff said was crap. Oh and dirtsheets this dirtsheets that dirtsheets this dirtsheets that dirtsheets reported this thing but how would they know they weren't there? DIRTSHEETS.
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Post by: 6foot9 on August 04, 2009, 01:06:28 PM
I was on vacation about 6 weeks ago and happened to stop into a Half Price Books and they had a copy of Pure Dynamite for like $8, so I figured what the hell.  I've been slowly reading it for the last couple of weeks, mainly because the first few chapters are just boring as hell and all the typos and grammatical mistakes makes it tough to read.  It basically just reads like someone typed up a shoot video but edited out the questions that were asked.  I'm about halfway through it now (to the part where he just had the ruptured discs) and just don't really feel like reading any more.
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Post by: JHawk on August 04, 2009, 01:16:26 PM
Someone early in the thread asked about J.J. Dillon's book.  Great stories and a pretty easy read, but I'd definitely rate it below Jericho, Foley's first two, and Heenan's.

Terry Funk's book was a fun read.
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Post by: luke-o on April 16, 2010, 12:36:09 AM
I'm looking for some recomendations. I'm not really after autobiographys but historical books. Books akin to Death of WVW and Wrestling's Sinking Ship.

Any suggestions?
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Post by: Cerebus The Aardvark on April 16, 2010, 04:30:36 AM
I've read all of the usual suspects regarding autobiographies, and consider the holy trinity to be Foley's 1st book, Jericho's, and Bret's.

I have read some books written about the business by non-wrestlers (Sex, Lies, and Headlocks was bad; Broken Harts was decent; etc.), but the biggest task of that group was National Wrestling Alliance: The Untold Story of the Monopoly That Strangled Pro Wrestling by Tim Hornbaker.

First things first: the book is dry. There are colorful spots where certain promoters or wrestlers are quoted, but the majority of the information is given in Hemingway-like ham-fisted typing tone, with no real emotion attached, unless they use one of the aforementioned quotes.

However, that's really the primary flaw. I can't speak for the accuracy of every statement or tidbit, but it seems like research was actually done. However, I could be incorrect; I am not an expert on pre-70s NWA, so there could be tons of mistakes. Regardless, it doesn't seem that this is the case.

The section where each NWA champion is profiled is interesting, although there are many that get minimal coverage for various reasons (short reign, lack of popularity, etc.). I am also very interested in the origins of the NWA and the business itself at that time (and before), so I found a lot of the discussion of people like Orville Brown interesting. There is a lot of talk about the political maneuverings of the various promoters, which is to be expected, but after so many double crosses/feuds, they all start blending together after a while.

The point is that I would recommend the book if you're interested in the formation/early years of the NWA. Again, it's dry, but I can overlook that for what else the book contains, and there are many interesting bits within that help add to the overall "story" of the NWA.
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Post by: alkeiper on April 16, 2010, 08:12:01 AM
Yeah, I liked Hornbaker's book.  The problem is that it can be kind of a dry style, but it is worth delving into.  It is pretty obvious where the primary sources lay.  A lot of court and government documents.

The "Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame" series is interesting as well.  A lot of profiles on individual wrestlers.  Probably quite a few interesting ones you may not have heard of before.
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Post by: Super Leather on April 16, 2010, 10:55:43 AM
Still haven't been able to get started on Hornbaker's NWA book. Maybe someday, but I keep going back to more familiar territory when I feel like reading a wrestling book.

SEX, LIES & HEADLOCKS: I have a hardcover edition, but I'm not sure about what factual errors it might contain. My copy may be a revised version, as I seem to recall it having an extra chapter. Haven't looked at it in a long time though. But I remember it being a decent enough primer to check out before getting more specific with other books. It's at least more accurate than Piper's autobiography, which I picked up at the same time.

AROUND THE WORLD IN SPANDEX: Highly entertaining. Loved reading about Mexico, Germany, and Japan. Remembering Jericho's obnoxious heel persona in WCW was making me laugh my ass off. Jericho obviously takes cues from Foley's books with his writing style and self-deprecation, but they both seem to come from the same place: two suburban dorks who would never be mistaken for macho tough guys, and knew it. And that's fine by me.

I read the Rock's book in about twenty minutes when it first came out. Terrible.

Jerry Lawler's book was surprisingly good considering that I have zero interest in following his career. Wasn't really buying any of his stuff about the amount of hot girls he'd slept with though.

The Stone Cold Truth and Hogan's book were both boring.
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Post by: alkeiper on April 16, 2010, 11:17:16 AM
Yeah, Jericho's book was excellent.  I finished it in two days, it was so entertaining and engrossing that I couldn't stop.
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Post by: KingPK on April 16, 2010, 11:22:41 AM
Is his second book coming out this year or '11?
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Post by: Jaxxxson Mayhem on April 16, 2010, 11:56:46 AM
I've read..

Foley's 3 books
Hogan's book
Austin's book
reading Sex, Lies and Headlocks
have Jericho's to read next
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Post by: Brodypedia on April 16, 2010, 12:57:28 PM
I've read..

Foley's 3 books
Hogan's book
Austin's book
reading Sex, Lies and Headlocks
have Jericho's to read next

You failed at the discussion part.
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Post by: wnyxmcneal on April 16, 2010, 01:37:03 PM
As did you, Brody.

The first and third Foley books are very good, Foley Is Good is fine, but there is really no reason for it, and the PTC stuff is painful
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Post by: Jaxxxson Mayhem on April 16, 2010, 01:47:05 PM
I've read..

Foley's 3 books
Hogan's book
Austin's book
reading Sex, Lies and Headlocks
have Jericho's to read next

You failed at the discussion part.

I realize this.  I knew it when I posted it.  I was going to come back later and expand on my post, but I guess I'll do it now.

Foley's 3rd book was boooooring. 

Hogan's book was interesting and told me a lot about old organizations along with some great Andre the Giant stories.   Such examples are him shitting on newspapers spread out on a bed in Japanese hotel rooms along with Andre fucking girls and calling Hogan during it and putting it on speakerphone and making Hogan listen to the girls scream.

Austin's book was cool.  Knew a lot of it before from his DVD.

Sex, Lies, and Headlocks is cool.  Gives a lot of info (although you guys are saying it's factually incorrect (I'm reading the hardcover version))
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Post by: Brodypedia on April 16, 2010, 02:03:18 PM
Pain and Passion: The History of Stampede Wrestling is quite great.

Jimmy hart's is horrid.

 Dibiase's 1st one is bad.

Ring of Hell was fun, if not numbing.  

Meltzer's Tributes books are tremendous.

Tangled Ropes (Billy Graham) was very interesting.

Everybody up there hates me is quite dull...

I've read a ton more actually, I'll add more later

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Post by: wnyxmcneal on April 16, 2010, 02:13:54 PM
Jimmy Hart seems like he could write an interesting book, but he has that rep of never saying a bad word about anyone.

Ring of Hell is hilarious, but a lot of it seemed a little farfetched.
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Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on April 16, 2010, 02:55:54 PM
Is his second book coming out this year or '11?

It's supposed to be this fall.
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Post by: JHawk on April 16, 2010, 02:57:45 PM
Finished Bret's book about a week ago and was actually sad it ended.  Excellent read.

I'm going to re-read Jericho's on the plane to and from Vegas next week.  That one never gets old.
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Post by: KingPK on April 16, 2010, 04:34:34 PM
The Midnight Express book is interesting if only for all the old pay stubs and interoffice memos it has.  It also has fan letters Cornette got, both good and bad.
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Post by: Rock Star From Mars on April 17, 2010, 03:45:20 AM
Ring of Hell's problem is that Randazzo, while he does have a lot of info and like him or not, has tons of sources, just tries to sensationize everything. And in a business as sleazy as wrestling, you really shouldn't have to stretch the truth that much. There is a lot of truth in the book particularly on what it's like to be on creative team under the tyranny of Stephanie, but he just tries to spice it up so much, you're left questioning all his credibility. He also wrote it in a rush, I believe, and didn't do enough fact-checking.


His writing for powerslam is so much better because he has a good editor and is a lot more controlled. If Ring of Hell has been written like that, I'm convinced it would have a lot more fans.

I also tend to believe Randazzo's main theory that all these claims from WWE and its wrestlers of "two Benoits" and that there was never any clue he was crazy until the last days of his life was bullshit, and there were probably a few warning signs, that people either ignored or didn't spot. Which I think was the main point of the book that he did get over well.
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Post by: oldskool on April 17, 2010, 02:38:15 PM
Anybody have any of the Wrestlecrap books? I've got the original on the way, I'm winning an eBay auction for the Book of Lists & I'm on the fence on Death of WCW.
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Post by: Matt Young on April 17, 2010, 08:51:39 PM
The last wrestling book I read was Flair's.  I finished it in one sitting.  It's one of my all-time favorite wrestling books.

I can recall having read the following:

Foley's first 2 books
Stone Cold Steve Austin
Edge
Shawn Michaels
Ric Flair
The Rock
Kurt Angle
The Hardy Boyz
Lita

I just got Eric Bischoff's a few weeks ago for $1.98 from WWEShop.  I plan to check out Hogan's from the library after I read that.
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Post by: KingPK on April 18, 2010, 06:51:16 AM
Anybody have any of the Wrestlecrap books? I've got the original on the way, I'm winning an eBay auction for the Book of Lists & I'm on the fence on Death of WCW.

Book of Lists was ok.  Death of WCW may be one of the best wrestling books written because it goes so in depth.
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Post by: Kotzenjunge on April 18, 2010, 10:26:38 AM
(in order read) First Foley: ****1/2. This was my introduction to wrestling books, but showed a tendency I'd notice more and more: the detail and/or candor subsides a little closer to the published date. Still, a book I refuse to part with and it'll travel overseas with me. Rock: **3/4. Dumb, but funny as fuck in parts to 17-year old me. Fuck off. First Scooter: *. I'd devoured all of his writing online already so it was old hat. Dumb purchase. Cut and paste! Jesus! Angle: *** memorable for his pre-wrestling life, and a part talking about how to throw a pulled punch. I dug that. Chyna: *3/4. Anyone who's read it will get the following joke. Ahem. OMG BEEPERZ~! Seriously, I had no idea she'd led such a life of back alley beeper deals and other crazy shit. Kinda boring otherwise. Second Foley: ****3/4 I enjoyed the dry dissection of the PTC. It also followed my favorite phase of his career but only that so no *****. Tonight in This Very Ring: * Why did I do this twice? Ugh. The Death of WCW: ****1/2...
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Post by: The ghost of bps21 on April 18, 2010, 10:28:11 AM
Pure Dynamite, The Bret Hart book and the first two Foley books were all tremendous reads.
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Post by: Kotzenjunge on April 18, 2010, 10:29:01 AM
Good, good stuff here. The sheer absurdity of the company is caught perfectly by a peddler of the absurd and it works. And... surprise! Someone from the internet wrote a book without copy and paste! w00t54UC3
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Post by: Kotzenjunge on April 18, 2010, 10:30:13 AM
Thanks for cutting me off there, bps. (goes into The Rock Says... promo mode with bold, italicized words n' errythang)
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Post by: The ghost of bps21 on April 18, 2010, 10:30:55 AM
I read a book and felt everyone had to be told.
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Post by: wnyxmcneal on April 18, 2010, 10:43:22 AM
Anybody have any of the Wrestlecrap books? I've got the original on the way, I'm winning an eBay auction for the Book of Lists & I'm on the fence on Death of WCW.

Book of Lists was ok.  Death of WCW may be one of the best wrestling books written because it goes so in depth.

No it's not. It doesn't tell you anything you didn't already know
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Post by: The ghost of bps21 on April 18, 2010, 10:49:29 AM
I've actually got a bunch of wrestling books that I haven't read sitting in a pile.  I have to choose between the following:

The Harley Race bio (which I just pulled out and realized that I started at some point), The Terry Funk bio, The Roddy Piper bio, The Gorgeous George book, A Bruiser Brody book, and the Stampede book.
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Post by: The Real DXP on April 20, 2010, 02:30:57 AM
Anybody have any of the Wrestlecrap books? I've got the original on the way, I'm winning an eBay auction for the Book of Lists & I'm on the fence on Death of WCW.

Book of Lists was ok.  Death of WCW may be one of the best wrestling books written because it goes so in depth.

No it's not. It doesn't tell you anything you didn't already know

(http://www.freewebs.com/ohairecenaarmy/untitled.bmp)
Forward by Sean O'Haire?
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Post by: alkeiper on April 20, 2010, 02:37:03 AM
I tried to read Dusty Rhodes' bio and couldn't get more than halfway through.  Terrible, terrible editing job.
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Post by: FroGG_NeaLL on April 20, 2010, 03:44:13 AM
The Rock's book was damn entertaining to me too when it first came out. the story about him choking a bitch out in a restaurant and losing his virginity were awesome stories.
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Post by: Cerebus The Aardvark on April 28, 2010, 02:06:43 PM
So, has anyone read How WCW Killed Vince Russo?
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Post by: alkeiper on January 10, 2011, 12:52:39 AM
Anyone else read Mildred Burke's bio?  3/4th's of the way through, it's really a tremendous look at Burke's life and that of her lecherous husband/manager Billy Wolfe.  It contains the story of the last true wrestling shoot.  Mae Young is a prominant figure as well.  Well worth checking out. 

Mildred Burke vs Millie Stafford (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv1sgGV3M4c#)
FLOUNCE Women - Female Wrestlers raise War Bonds Houston Texas 1944 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtqxvfDLRT8#)
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Post by: KingPK on January 31, 2011, 06:14:38 AM
According to an e-mail I got from Amazon, it looks like they already have Undisputed in stock and I should have it by the 4th.

I am very happy at this development.
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Post by: BorneAgain on January 31, 2011, 06:29:54 AM
http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/172463/Details-On-Booker-Ts-New-Book.htm (http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/172463/Details-On-Booker-Ts-New-Book.htm)

Booker's writing one now.
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Post by: DMann1979 on January 31, 2011, 07:37:21 AM
http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/172463/Details-On-Booker-Ts-New-Book.htm (http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/172463/Details-On-Booker-Ts-New-Book.htm)

Booker's writing one now.

Possible titles:

Can You Read This? SUCKA!!!

Tell Me, I Just Didn't Write This!
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Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on February 01, 2011, 07:12:40 AM
There are two forewords in Jericho's new book. One written by Mick Foley, the other written by Zack Ryder. Holy god damn.
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Post by: Spaceman Spiff 🚀 on February 01, 2011, 07:17:41 AM
http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/172463/Details-On-Booker-Ts-New-Book.htm (http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/172463/Details-On-Booker-Ts-New-Book.htm)

Booker's writing one now.

Possible titles:

Can You Read This? SUCKA!!!

Tell Me, I Just Didn't Write This!
I'm Writin' For You, Nigga
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Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on February 01, 2011, 07:45:17 AM
I'm Writin' For You, Nigga

Holy god damn.
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Post by: KingPK on February 04, 2011, 02:30:26 PM
Undisputed picks up literally right where the first book ended with Jericho debuting in the WWF.  He's pretty candid about his early struggles fitting in and dealing with Vince.  It's a tremendous read, just like the first book.  I'm only about 60 pages in and the book is over 400, which I think is longer than the first one.

My forum name will make more sense when you read the book.
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Post by: Baby Shoes on February 04, 2011, 03:31:50 PM
I had the Jericho book on pre-order from Amazon super cheap, but I cancelled and am paying double the price now because Jericho is doing a book signing not too far from me in a couple weeks.  Figured double the price to meet Jericho was worth it.
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Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on February 05, 2011, 01:23:55 AM
According to Amazon, my copy left Atlanta last night around 11:30.
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Post by: Rock Star From Mars on February 06, 2011, 05:57:13 AM
Re-read Lita's WWE book:

-Actually gets a few criticisms of WWE in there.

-the Mexico section of the book...eh, she never outright confirms anything in regards to all the rumours that fly around about what she got up to, but it is very blatantly read between the lines at points.

-on that note, Jeff's drug problems and downward spiral are hinted at, but never outright said either.

- the stuff where she's bitching out Stacy and Torrie for being awful wrestlers is sort of the pot calling the kettle black considering all she ever really had going for her was the moonsault.

-part where her dog got put down was actually genuinely sad.

-it's also a bit shame to hear her at that point, 2003, talk about how much it means to be a role model for young women, considering where her career went after that, and that seems to be mainly what she's remembered for.

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Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on February 07, 2011, 03:09:28 AM
My forum name will make more sense when you read the book.

(that name is pretty degrading!)
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Post by: KingPK on February 07, 2011, 08:35:22 AM
The Fozzy stories may be a better read than Jericho's wrestling stories.

I'm surprised he stuck around dealing with Vince as long as he did.
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Post by: KingPK on February 07, 2011, 05:18:57 PM
Just finished the book.  Honestly, if you are looking for great insight into his first WWF/E run, you are going to be pretty disappointed.  The real strength of the book is Fozzy's trials and tribulations, dealing with deaths in his life (the chapter on Benoit is particularly interesting) and dealing with getting gigs outside wrestling and music. 

A froot read indeed.
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Post by: Sabre on February 08, 2011, 03:48:26 AM
Since the UK sucks and Jerichos book isnt released till 17th Feb, im reading Countdown to Lockdown.  What a shitty book.
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Post by: Smues on February 08, 2011, 06:02:45 AM
Undisputed doesn't come out in Nook format until the 16th, but I plan to get it right away when it does.
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Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on February 09, 2011, 09:48:20 AM
One of the best parts of Undisputed was what I have dubbed the Tale of the Larryland Legal Eagles.
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Post by: Nymyzys on February 10, 2011, 01:43:05 AM
I've read about 4 chapters of Undisputed and I've loved every bit of it.
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Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on February 12, 2011, 02:30:22 AM
One of the best parts of Undisputed was that picture of Jericho's wife with the goldfish tattoo on top of her titty.
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Post by: Baby Shoes on February 20, 2011, 05:30:13 PM
Went to Jericho's book signing today.  I had called and made a reservation when I found out about it weeks back, and apparently I was one of the first people, so I got a good spot in line.  Only a few people ahead of me, including a guy my friend and I called Larry Saget, assuming he was Bob Saget's brother, as he looked just like Bob Saget if he was the size of say Bob Barron.

I got up to Jericho pretty quick and he seemed alright from a distance, friendly at least but a little quiet as it seemed most of the people first were kind of annoying or trying to get him to sign more things than the signing would allow (he would do the book and one thing extra, but people were trying to give him piles of stuff).  I walked up and he said "How's it going?"  I told him good and asked how he was, he said good.  Now, Jericho was my absolute favorite wrestler for a long time, so I just did the "It's an honor to meet you" as he signed my book, just try to sound polite and show my appreciation without going too weird or overboard.  He responded with "Oh, me too.  I've been waiting to meet you a long time".  Caught me off guard, so I just laughed and said "Yeah, I bet".  He responded with "No, I have.  Haven't you seen me watching you outside your window?"  I told him I thought it was him and we both laughed and he shook my hand before I left.  Thought it was pretty awesome I got to meet Jericho and have him claim to stalk me, now I gotta get started on reading the new book.
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Post by: ViciousFish on February 24, 2011, 12:52:55 AM
I think Jericho kind of comes off as a prick in this one, especially when "Drunkicho" makes any sort of appearance.
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Post by: Brodypedia on February 28, 2011, 03:15:32 AM
BIX:

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Bruce's book is totally insane. I cannot imagine anyone with even a passing knowledge of wrestling history not sniffing out most of the bullshit and even someone with no knowledge of history would be able to tell pretty easily that everything Bruce says about Bret is likely to be a hate filled lie.

Among the things Bruce claims that definitely aren't true:

He claims he worked a series of WWF house shows with his family members and they tore the house down working "Stampede" style until a road agent (Lanza IIRC) told him he was just a school teacher, that the matches sucked because of him and then demanded he basically stand on the apron and do little to nothing. Bruce claims that he complied with these demands, the matches got worse but Lanza complimented him for doing his job. The problem is no such house show run ever existed.

He claims that he and Bret went down to Amarillo, TX to meet up with Dory Jr. and co. over the Summer and in the process tells an awesome Terry Funk rib story that I hope is true. Having said that he also claims that on the trip down they were chased out of multiple counties by violent redneck gangs who assumed they were draft dodging hippies.

He claims Bret reached over his dying mother and attempted to choke his sister as their mother was literally expiring in front of them.

He claims he ghost wrote Bret's Calagary Sun column for years.

He claims that Smith Hart was in no way to blame for the missing gate receipts of the infamous Stampede tour to the Carribean.

He claims he was given the book in Hawaii by Peter Maivia (this may or may not be true but seems hard to believe).

He claims that he was offered the book by Vince's people only to be snubbed by Vince when flown in to discuss the terms.

He claims that Shane called him about turning his new Stampede

He claims that Whalen (who he regards as the best announcer ever which shocked me knowing Bruce's booking style) on air resignation after the Bad News innocent was an angle and disguise Whalen's departure to cover two Calgary Flames games.

He claims that the WWE was about to bring him in to team with Pillman for a Badd Company reunion but Bret sabotaged it because he was angry when the children came in the ring at the end of the Calgary Stampede ppv (a ppv he claims was designed in part to set up an angle with him and Austin). He claims that he would have kept Pillman clean and thus implies multiple times that Bret was responsible for Pillman's death.

He claims that Bret called him after Owen's death suggesting that McMahon had done it intentionally to punish Owen for Bret's problems with Vince regarding Montreal.

He claims that one of Bret's columns (after Bruce quit writing for him of course) was responsible for Davey taking up drug use again and as a result Bret is responsible for the death of DBS.
Title: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Springtime for Epic on February 28, 2011, 03:34:17 AM
I had a few hours to kill the other night so I ducked inside a Barnes & Nobles and started to read Jericho's new book.

I only read a few chapters, particularly the ones about Fozzy and Jericho's post-WWE career in '05. I didn't realize Jericho stuck with the Moongoose McQueen gimmick for so long and that he played it up during every public appearance hyping the first Fozzy album. I also didn't realize how hard it was for him to get acting roles. I knew Jericho didn't have a ot of success in media outside wrestling but it really struck me when he ran down that list of all the movies and TV shows that he auditioned for and didn't get a single callback for any of them.

Title: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Rock Star From Mars on February 28, 2011, 03:52:03 AM
Does Jericho use a ghost writer?
Title: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Avid Warehouse Enthusiast on February 28, 2011, 05:03:59 AM
In the first one he used a co-author who helped him merely collect his ideas and organize the whole thing, but the majority of it was Jericho himself. I can't see him using a ghost writer for the second one considering the first is considered on par with Foley's which are still the standard-bearers.
Title: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Baby Shoes on February 28, 2011, 07:46:26 AM
In the first one he used a co-author who helped him merely collect his ideas and organize the whole thing, but the majority of it was Jericho himself. I can't see him using a ghost writer for the second one considering the first is considered on par with Foley's which are still the standard-bearers.

Just finished the new Jericho book the other night and there is a co-author's note at the end where the guy said the same, he basically helped Jericho organize it but it was mainly Jericho's doing.

Enjoyed the book but I get a little bugged when there are little errors books on topics I know about.  Early on, his Wrestlemania match with Regal was referred to Wrestlemania X8 (which was actually the show he main evented, so you'd think that would be caught as opposed to confusing some midcard match) and it seemed to imply some of the Jericho/Stephanie stuff in the Alliance time led to the HHH feud, which wouldn't have worked because he mentions Rhino and Booker, who weren't in the company yet.  Later on, it became clear he was jumping back and forth at times, which made me not care as much about the timeline stuff, but listing the wrong event at one point just seemed odd to me.
Title: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: timmy8271 on February 28, 2011, 10:03:19 AM
I went to the Jericho book signing in Orlando. Waited in line for about a hour and a half but it was worth it. The book is great. I need to see video of Jericho and Moongoose fucking with Pink on Off the Record.
Title: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Springtime for Epic on February 28, 2011, 10:58:04 AM
Fun Fact: Jericho auditioned for a role in The Dark Knight.
Title: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Baby Shoes on February 28, 2011, 12:03:39 PM
Some of the bigger movies I was surprised to see that he got auditions for.  Wonder who he tried out for in Knocked Up.  I'm more surprised he didn't get anything in stuff like Beer League that he auditioned for too.
Title: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Rock Star From Mars on February 28, 2011, 12:51:35 PM
Kurt Angle apparently auditioned for Lex Luthor in Superman Returns, which always blew my mind.
Title: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: BorneAgain on March 04, 2011, 09:43:54 AM
Kurt Angle apparently auditioned for Lex Luthor in Superman Returns, which always blew my mind.

He can always try out again for Snyder's Superman Reboot.

Who would possibly turn him down after seeing his motion picture debut:

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Title: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Smues on March 05, 2011, 05:15:42 PM
I read Undisputed last week. I didn't like it nearly as much as I was expecting to, but it wasn't bad. Froot got old VERY quickly. I haven't read Lion's Tale yet, hopefully I like it better.
Title: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Herb on March 05, 2011, 05:30:02 PM
BIX:

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Bruce's book is totally insane. I cannot imagine anyone with even a passing knowledge of wrestling history not sniffing out most of the bullshit and even someone with no knowledge of history would be able to tell pretty easily that everything Bruce says about Bret is likely to be a hate filled lie.

Among the things Bruce claims that definitely aren't true:

He claims he worked a series of WWF house shows with his family members and they tore the house down working "Stampede" style until a road agent (Lanza IIRC) told him he was just a school teacher, that the matches sucked because of him and then demanded he basically stand on the apron and do little to nothing. Bruce claims that he complied with these demands, the matches got worse but Lanza complimented him for doing his job. The problem is no such house show run ever existed.

He claims that he and Bret went down to Amarillo, TX to meet up with Dory Jr. and co. over the Summer and in the process tells an awesome Terry Funk rib story that I hope is true. Having said that he also claims that on the trip down they were chased out of multiple counties by violent redneck gangs who assumed they were draft dodging hippies.

He claims Bret reached over his dying mother and attempted to choke his sister as their mother was literally expiring in front of them.

He claims he ghost wrote Bret's Calagary Sun column for years.

He claims that Smith Hart was in no way to blame for the missing gate receipts of the infamous Stampede tour to the Carribean.

He claims he was given the book in Hawaii by Peter Maivia (this may or may not be true but seems hard to believe).

He claims that he was offered the book by Vince's people only to be snubbed by Vince when flown in to discuss the terms.

He claims that Shane called him about turning his new Stampede

He claims that Whalen (who he regards as the best announcer ever which shocked me knowing Bruce's booking style) on air resignation after the Bad News innocent was an angle and disguise Whalen's departure to cover two Calgary Flames games.

He claims that the WWE was about to bring him in to team with Pillman for a Badd Company reunion but Bret sabotaged it because he was angry when the children came in the ring at the end of the Calgary Stampede ppv (a ppv he claims was designed in part to set up an angle with him and Austin). He claims that he would have kept Pillman clean and thus implies multiple times that Bret was responsible for Pillman's death.

He claims that Bret called him after Owen's death suggesting that McMahon had done it intentionally to punish Owen for Bret's problems with Vince regarding Montreal.

He claims that one of Bret's columns (after Bruce quit writing for him of course) was responsible for Davey taking up drug use again and as a result Bret is responsible for the death of DBS.

Why are the Hart's all so weird?
Title: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Brodypedia on March 13, 2011, 04:09:20 AM
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Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: jerk of all trades on April 27, 2012, 06:49:08 AM
So apparently Ryan Nemeth (Briley Pierce in FCW) wrote a book back in January 2010...

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Donny Blake spends his first semester as a college student at Kulhman University doing the typical college student activities--partying, picking up girls, studying, and trying to avoid Ugly Jen. When the bank starts giving Donny free money and his French teacher expresses interest in him, Donny comes to the realization "I can make out with any girl here". Will it all far apart when ants move into Donny's room and stolen fetal pigs attract the administration's attention or will he make it through his first semester of college? Find out through diary entries, text messages, e-mails, and police reports. I Can Make Out with Any Girl Here--the story of Donny Blake's first semester at Kulhman University. A must read for all students about to enter college, college freshman, current college students, or those just wanting to remember what it was like.

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Only 1 left in stock--order soon (more on the way).

OMG!!

Author profile: http://www.amazon.com/Ryan-Nemeth/e/B0040AU09M (http://www.amazon.com/Ryan-Nemeth/e/B0040AU09M)
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Brodypedia on May 05, 2012, 01:11:52 AM
Duggan's got a bio coming out that I suspect will be a bore for some reason.

http://www.amazon.com/The-King-New-Orleans-Professional/dp/1770410309/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_b (http://www.amazon.com/The-King-New-Orleans-Professional/dp/1770410309/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_b)  This one intrigues me though
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: KingPK on May 05, 2012, 03:50:51 AM
I got Hogan's first book (the WWE one from '03 or '04).  What a terribly written book.  It goes into detail about nothing and there's a whole one page chapter about Mike Sharpe's hygiene.  And of course it has the stink of Hogan's bullshit stories all over it.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: CookieMueller on May 05, 2012, 10:08:33 AM
I hadn't read a wrestling book since the second Foley one (when it was new) so I bought 4 a few weeks ago and have read 2 1/2 of them.

The Road Warriors book was ok. The common complaint about wrestling books is "not enough detail" but I'd say he goes into pretty good detail on everything, even giving exact figures on contracts and stuff. But he is totally one of those "You this move/genre/style? I invented that" types, which becomes annoying after the 80th time or so.

Then I read the 2 Jericho books back-to-back and I'm halfway through the second one. The first one is up there with the Foley book, though I probably favour Foley's only because it's more linear. In fact, I'd say the second one is pretty disappointing because it's so scrambled. Just a personal preference though. I do like how candid he is about Vince and about his own performances.

I have the Bret book, too. Can't wait to start on that one. I figured I'd leave it last to give me incentive to finish the others quicker, but it hasn't been a problem, I've had trouble putting the books down either way.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: alkeiper on May 05, 2012, 11:17:56 AM
The Duggan one has potential. He was in Mid-South in their heyday, WWE during the Hulkamania years (1987-93), then WCW for the nWo era. Plus you've got a guy who traveled on the road with the Iron F'n Sheik.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Brodypedia on May 05, 2012, 06:50:42 PM
The Duggan one has potential. He was in Mid-South in their heyday, WWE during the Hulkamania years (1987-93), then WCW for the nWo era. Plus you've got a guy who traveled on the road with the Iron F'n Sheik.

I've read so many dull books that should have been great (J.Hart etc) that I see Duggan as the type who will over blow his WWF and WCW runs - talk to much about God re: Cancer and ignore gossip/dirt since he's still w/ Vinnie Mac
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Pináculo on May 05, 2012, 07:21:49 PM
He needs to talk about why his ring gear sucks. His boots have holes on the bottom and he's wearing pajama shorts to the ring. He needs to talk about that shit. He looks like the Brooklyn Brawler. They should make him bring a hobo stick with the handkerchief on the end the next time he shows up.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Bernie Bro Kamala on May 06, 2012, 02:42:14 AM
The Duggan one has potential. He was in Mid-South in their heyday, WWE during the Hulkamania years (1987-93), then WCW for the nWo era. Plus you've got a guy who traveled on the road with the Iron F'n Sheik.

I've read so many dull books that should have been great (J.Hart etc) that I see Duggan as the type who will over blow his WWF and WCW runs - talk to much about God re: Cancer and ignore gossip/dirt since he's still w/ Vinnie Mac
Yeah and none of the Duggan shoot interviews I've heard have been particularly interesting either. Usually, dull shoot interview=dull book (see Tito Santana).
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Thrasher on May 06, 2012, 05:04:58 AM
Aww I was hoping Duggan's book would/could be filled with "Everyone told me I should be the next Hulk Hogan and be champion".
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Brodypedia on May 25, 2012, 10:54:13 PM
Continuing my "gimmick" of AWA love, I bought 2 AWA books this week:

MAT WARS by Verne Gagne - a late 85/ early 1986 release that was plugging the already dead "Pro Wrestling USA" by covering the roster - I have looked through it and the bios are more in depth than I was expecting. From Flair to Steve O.


And I acquired a 2011 release on the history of the AWA by super fan Geogre Schire  "Minnesota's Golden Age of Wrestling" Schire is a hardcore old school fan who lived through these events and I am excited to read his passion.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Baby Shoes on October 16, 2012, 07:24:25 AM
Bob Holly has a book due out April 1.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Bernie Bro Kamala on November 17, 2013, 01:48:21 PM
On Amazon and I'm amazed at the number of wrestling books I haven't even heard of.

Former WCW jobber Bobby Blaze (most known for...um, uh...failing a sham drug test at the same time as Chris Jericho) has an autobiography out! Also Jerry Jarrett self published his diary from TNA's first year which from the excerpt on the website looks poorly edited but really interesting. It seems like Brodster or bps or somebody would have mentioned that one.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Mik on November 18, 2013, 05:41:50 AM
I'm reading David Shoemaker's book now. He writes as The Masked Man on Grantland and Deadspin.

There is some origin of pro-wrestling stuff that I found a little dry but I'm enjoying reading more about things I'm somewhat familiar with. There's a lot of dead wrestler stuff that is similar to what he's written before.

Not what I typically read but it's not too bad.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Bernie Bro Kamala on November 18, 2013, 10:21:24 AM
Yeah, he had the Dead Wrestler of the Week on Deadspin before he jumped to Grantland. I'm not crazy about his writing. Don't hate it as much as some people on the IWC but not in love with it. That's the kind of book I'd gladly read if somebody gave it to me or if I saw at the library but I'm not gonna pay full price for it.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: claydude14 on November 18, 2013, 10:34:44 AM
I recently picked up Countdown to Lockdown on Kindle for like 6 bucks. Been a great read about Foley's announcing duties while with WWE and of course his TNA experience. All his books have been very entertaining reads, and I haven't finished it yet but I'd put it 3rd above Foley is GOOD (Have a Nice Day/Hardcore Diaries being 1 and 2 for me). I think I'll download Jericho's books next, heard they are good. Always been interested in Bret's too.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: LaParkaYourCar on November 18, 2013, 10:53:14 AM
I recently picked up Countdown to Lockdown on Kindle for like 6 bucks. Been a great read about Foley's announcing duties while with WWE and of course his TNA experience. All his books have been very entertaining reads, and I haven't finished it yet but I'd put it 3rd above Foley is GOOD (Have a Nice Day/Hardcore Diaries being 1 and 2 for me). I think I'll download Jericho's books next, heard they are good. Always been interested in Bret's too.

Bret's books is great, but really depressing. Jericho's first book is awesome and highly entertaining. I haven't read Jericho's second book yet though.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Bernie Bro Kamala on November 18, 2013, 10:56:43 AM
Yeah, a friend recently lent me Countdown to Lockdown and it far surpassed my low expectations. I didn't think it was possible for me to care about Foley's TNA run but it managed the impossible. Pretty damn entertaining read. I wouldn't put it on the great wrestling books of all time lists but it's definitely the bore I thought it'd be.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Avid Warehouse Enthusiast on November 18, 2013, 11:33:39 AM
Second one isn't as interesting because it's stuff we're all familiar with, but it's still a fun read.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: LaParkaYourCar on November 19, 2013, 07:26:09 AM
I haven't read Jericho's 2nd book, so I'm curious, what is his take on the build up to WrestleMania X8? I know on his DVD he briefly said that pairing him with Stephanie wasn't such a good idea in hindsight, but I want to know what he thought about the stuff with the dog and how he was pretty much treated like a non-factor in his own title defense.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: KingPK on November 19, 2013, 08:10:24 AM
He pretty much calls his entire Undisputed reign a "bust".  His idea was to have an affair with Steph and be completely at her beck and call, but Vince nixed the affair part and kept the whipped part.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: LaParkaYourCar on November 19, 2013, 08:19:09 AM
He pretty much calls his entire Undisputed reign a "bust".  His idea was to have an affair with Steph and be completely at her beck and call, but Vince nixed the affair part and kept the whipped part.

Thank you. Hmmm, I think the affair thing would have been a lot better because it would have put heat on Jericho and given Triple H a reason to actually be mad at him. Instead we got a Triple H/Stephanie feud with Jericho as a backdrop. Preferably they shouldn't have involved Steph at all, but if they had to involve her the affair thing would have been better if done right.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: KingPK on November 19, 2013, 08:29:17 AM
According to Jericho, they thought it illogical that HHH's character would let his wife do something like that without him knowing.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: snuffbox on November 19, 2013, 08:35:51 AM
It's still real to the extended McMahon family.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: UterusJuice on November 23, 2013, 06:22:33 PM
I'm suprised nobody has mentioned Bob Holly's book yet. It's fucking fantastic. I place it behind Foley's 1st, Bret's and the 2 Jericho ones.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Baby Shoes on November 30, 2013, 07:44:21 AM
Jericho has a third book scheduled for September 2014.  Big portion of the book will be discussing the HBK feud of 2008.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: claydude14 on February 04, 2014, 08:54:27 AM
Finished Jericho's 2nd book about a month ago and have been slowly chugging through Bret's. Loving Bret's! Jericho's was a real easy read and I flew through it. Kindle has been a Godsend for reading shit since the gf can fall asleep in the dark and I can read.

Also got Bischoff's and Austin's books for $3 each at a thrift shop (hardcovers too!) They will be my books I read on the shitter. Just started Bischoff's and I like the compact section breakdowns in each chapter, reminds me of Batista's and Edge's (well I think that one was just shorter chapters maybe?). Also got those two hardcover secondhand on the cheap. Makes it easier to read in quick bursts on the shitter.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Jingus on February 10, 2014, 08:34:10 PM
Is there anyone who will re-release Lou Thesz's book already?  I'm continually amazed that it's so hard to find, considering that it's essentially a history book, Thesz chronicles EVERYTHING that happened with the rise of the NWA.  The only way I ever read it was a borrowed copy of an odd semi-professionally bound copy, probably a bootleg. 
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Post by: "Pro Bowler" Benjy "Ball Return" Roberts on February 10, 2014, 11:16:06 PM
I got a Kindle on Black Friday and I bought Holly's books when it was on sale and I have to agree, it is a fantastic book. I just wish I could track down Gary Hart's book cheap someday.

Is there anyone who will re-release Lou Thesz's book already?  I'm continually amazed that it's so hard to find, considering that it's essentially a history book, Thesz chronicles EVERYTHING that happened with the rise of the NWA.  The only way I ever read it was a borrowed copy of an odd semi-professionally bound copy, probably a bootleg. 

http://www.crowbarpress.com/cbp-books/13-lt.html
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Jingus on February 10, 2014, 11:46:22 PM
http://www.crowbarpress.com/cbp-books/13-lt.html
Well damn, thank you so much!
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: LaParkaYourCar on February 11, 2014, 03:35:38 AM
Finished Jericho's 2nd book about a month ago and have been slowly chugging through Bret's. Loving Bret's! Jericho's was a real easy read and I flew through it. Kindle has been a Godsend for reading shit since the gf can fall asleep in the dark and I can read.

Also got Bischoff's and Austin's books for $3 each at a thrift shop (hardcovers too!) They will be my books I read on the shitter. Just started Bischoff's and I like the compact section breakdowns in each chapter, reminds me of Batista's and Edge's (well I think that one was just shorter chapters maybe?). Also got those two hardcover secondhand on the cheap. Makes it easier to read in quick bursts on the shitter.

Bret's book is a great read, but man can it ever be a downer. You never realize how screwed up his family truly is until you read his book.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Bernie Bro Kamala on April 14, 2014, 11:12:40 AM
I just finished Jerry Jarrett's self published book about the first year of TNA. It somehow manages to be candid yet really boring.

I mentioned a few of the more interesting anecdotes in the TNA thread. One I forgot to mention is that DADDY JEFF wanted The Great Khali to be the Andre The Giant of TNA. In some alternate universe, Jeff Jarrett Vs Great Khali probably main evented Bound For Glory '06.

Book also really, REALLY could have used a ghostwriter. It was really poorly formatted. Jarrett would be sharing his thoughts on the failings of Vince Russo's writing style and then all of a sudden, it would cut to an interview of Jarrett from WrestlingClassics about Memphis Rasslin.

I think there could be a great book about TNA one of these days. This was not that book.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: KingPK on October 28, 2014, 09:13:07 AM
Thoughts on two releases:

The Death of WCW 10th Anniversary : Lots of additional tidbits and quotes added that almost doubles the length of the book.  Absolutely worth reading even if you've read the original to death because it goes in depth into a lot more things and the epilogue is basically a preview of the inevitable Death of TNA.

Jericho's 3rd book: A super breezy read; I finished it in like three days.  I think I like it better than Undisputed since there's less Fozzy and "lol Drunkicho" stories (and he even talks about HBK putting him in his place with his drinking).
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: CanadianGuitarist on October 29, 2014, 12:15:49 PM
The Death of WCW 10th Anniversary : Lots of additional tidbits and quotes added that almost doubles the length of the book.  Absolutely worth reading even if you've read the original to death because it goes in depth into a lot more things and the epilogue is basically a preview of the inevitable Death of TNA.

Do I recall reading the Wrestlecrap guys formally name a person(s) responsible for the death of WCW? I never did pick this up, which I regret because I had it in my hands a few years ago when I was in Chapters to buy the ex a present. If so, spoiler it for me?

I still have Diana's book. I haven't read it for a few years, but my Bret markdom notwithstanding, I remember it being pretty "oh, come on."

I didn't see Edge's book mentioned here. Anyone have that? I remember seeing it in a bookstore around the time of the Lita affair; I think that was the first thing I looked for as I thumbed through it, but I don't remember seeing anything about it. What I do remember is thinking how similar his writing style was to the character he played in 2000 (with the volume turned down a bit, of course).
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Skywarp! on November 18, 2014, 02:02:40 AM
Got some Nook credit to use. Should I get Bret's book, Jericho's first, or Foley Is Good? Consensus sounds like Bret's is the must-read, yes?
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Harley Quinn on November 18, 2014, 02:28:16 AM
Got some Nook credit to use. Should I get Bret's book, Jericho's first, or Foley Is Good? Consensus sounds like Bret's is the must-read, yes?

Bret's an absolute must read.  Jericho's first is solid but not quite at the level (IMO) of Bret's or Foley's 1st.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Avid Warehouse Enthusiast on November 18, 2014, 03:10:22 AM

The Death of WCW 10th Anniversary : Lots of additional tidbits and quotes added that almost doubles the length of the book.  Absolutely worth reading even if you've read the original to death because it goes in depth into a lot more things and the epilogue is basically a preview of the inevitable Death of TNA.

Do I recall reading the Wrestlecrap guys formally name a person(s) responsible for the death of WCW? I never did pick this up, which I regret because I had it in my hands a few years ago when I was in Chapters to buy the ex a present. If so, spoiler it for me?

Spoiler: show
Not really. They place the final blame on Jamie Kellner for canceling Nitro, which ended any hope of Fusient buying it, but explain that shitty booking and horrible business decisions made Kellner's decision an easy one.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: SFH on November 18, 2014, 03:18:27 AM
I'm about 6 chapter's into Bret's book. He has just had Double gold in Stampede. So far nothing OVERTLY bitter. I have to keep in mind this was published in 2007 and this is after his reunion with WWE. So far he's painted a not so flattering picture of TDK even when he stopped needlessly stiffing him. I try to read at my desk at work but there's a textbook we're supposed to be reading and passing around during slow periods rather than recreational so I'm reading at home.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: BreakingMad on November 19, 2014, 06:31:46 PM
Just finished Jericho's latest, nowhere near as good as the last one, which was nowhere good as the one before that.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: snuffbox on November 20, 2014, 01:56:31 AM
Bret Hart spends a lot of time talking about himself in his autobiography.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Baby Shoes on November 20, 2014, 05:44:28 AM
Just finished Jericho's latest, nowhere near as good as the last one, which was nowhere good as the one before that.

I'm reading Jericho's new one when I find time and I feel he just gets too comfortable. It can be entertaining but he references his previous books in cheap plugs like every other page and similar little things you would think an editor would stop him from doing.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: tekcop on November 20, 2014, 06:36:23 AM
Bret Hart spends a lot of time talking about himself in his autobiography.
Isn't it odd that most of the posters here have read other autobiographies and haven't gotten the same impression in regards to the writer's ego as they do with Bret's? Yeah, you're right. Clearly everyone is unfairly ganging up on Bret Hart.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Damaramu on November 20, 2014, 06:42:54 AM
I don't mind Bret being cocky about his own ability. Everyone probably should be to some degree. It was annoying that everyone he came into contact with had to stop and tell him that he was the greatest.

Also Jericho's second book was hard to read. I hated every Fozzy story and eventually started skipping them.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on November 20, 2014, 10:14:36 AM
I love Bret Hart. I love his book. There is a part in it where he infers he could be a descendant of Christ Himself.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: BorneAgain on November 20, 2014, 10:17:28 AM
In fairness to Bret, he was going to take out the self worshiping portions but his editor walked up to him, tears in his eyes, and said he couldn't let Bret deceive the people by saying he was worse than he actually was.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on November 20, 2014, 10:44:33 AM
And then Bret cheated on his cruel wife.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: SFH on November 20, 2014, 03:39:00 PM
Speaking of Julie, from "Wrestling with Shadows" i was taken aback at how rough she looked. In the book there's a younger photo of her and she was quite attractive back in the day.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Ed on November 20, 2014, 03:44:58 PM
Isn't she at some WWF events in the early '90s too? Like Survivor Series '92?
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on November 20, 2014, 10:58:35 PM
I'll never forget when A&E premiered Wrestling With Shadows and halfway through it shows the big glamour shot of Julie hanging in Bret's sauna.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Avid Warehouse Enthusiast on November 21, 2014, 12:42:03 AM
She reminds me of the guy from Celtic Frost when they went glam.

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Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Damaramu on November 21, 2014, 03:14:27 AM
Speaking of Julie, from "Wrestling with Shadows" i was taken aback at how rough she looked. In the book there's a younger photo of her and she was quite attractive back in the day.

I wouldn't exactly call her "attractive" but she wasn't as bad as she looked in Wrestling with Shadows. Bret's short-term italian wife wasn't too bad though.

I like how he tells a story in his book about having a girl come up to his room in Australia (i think?) after his stroke and thinking "yeah I'm back".
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Baby Shoes on December 23, 2014, 06:24:59 AM
I had mentioned in some other threads a bit back that I had been reading Jericho's new book.  Got busy, hadn't gotten a chance to get back to it but I stayed home sick from work today and tired of sleeping and TV, picked it back up only to get another story about Vince wrestling guys on planes.

This time, Jericho was going to a press conference in Phoenix for Wrestlemania 26 on Vince's jet with Vince, Big Johnny, Cena and Kofi Kingston.  They drink Jack Daniels the whole way.  As Kofi leaves, Vince makes some comment about "maybe you will get over one of these days" to Kofi.

Jericho follows Kofi off the plane and gets him to go back and stand up for himself.  Kofi goes back and nervously confronts Kofi.  Mid-trash talk, Vince takes out Kofi's legs and the two wrestle in the plane for a little bit.

Vince is going to live forever.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Ed on December 23, 2014, 10:53:20 AM
Was Kofi on the plane just so that Vince could make that joke?
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: OldSchoolWrestling on April 04, 2015, 05:44:24 AM
Has anyone read Gary Hart's book? I had only been able to find it on eBay or amazon for $500 and then I found a free PDF. Can't wait to read!
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Avid Warehouse Enthusiast on April 04, 2015, 02:57:37 PM
From what Court Bauer has said, Hart's son is a major reason it's never been reprinted.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Baby Shoes on May 05, 2015, 07:35:29 AM
JTG is hyping on Twitter that he is releasing a tell-all eBook.

Kinda curious on this one, as his time spanned in WWE from 2006-2014, so he was there in that weird pre-Benoit murders era through the sanitized era.  Know he got in trouble for speaking up a couple times.  Also, don't remember how long he spent in OVW but he was there in that post-Cena era of the guys that were supposed to be bigger than they became (Eugene, Bashams, Conway) and he is going to cover all that too.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Baby Shoes on September 24, 2015, 07:33:27 AM
Jericho just announced he has signed on to write his fourth book but this one will be "a little different".  I eagerly await his new line of erotic fiction.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on November 09, 2015, 02:01:52 AM
I was reading this e-book on Kindle Unlimited called Titan Shattered. It has a lot of great stories that seem to piece together rumours and other parts of the 1996ish era that we all kinda know about. Also appears well-sourced.

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25899318-titan-shattered

Worth a read as a rasslin fan imo.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Damaramu on December 22, 2015, 04:37:54 AM
I just finished Bret's book for a third time and it got me into the wrasslin' book reading mood.

So I read Hardcore Holly's book and man I loved it. He was brutally honest and it was sad when he finally quit. It makes me look back and wish that old Hardcore had been used more.

Also why aren't Foley's first two books on Kindle?
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Baby Shoes on December 22, 2015, 06:07:26 AM
I've really wanted to read Hardcore's.  I may need to pick that up now.  Think the last wrestling book I read was Jericho's third, as I got on a little basketball kick for a stretch.

Guessing Foley's has to do with age and rights stuff but I don't legit know.  Not sure if they switched around publishers and stuff since Foley's first book is legally old enough to drive now.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Damaramu on December 22, 2015, 06:23:43 AM
Best line from Hardcore's book:

"People always ask me if I took steroids. Hell yes I was on steroids."
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Big Beard Booty Daddy on December 22, 2015, 09:01:03 AM
I wasn't too sure of Holly's book, but sounds like it's worth checking out.

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Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Jingus on December 22, 2015, 09:10:36 AM
Hell yes it is.  I'm actually reading it now.  There's a whole chapter on his early years as a professional toughman fighter in shady barroom tournaments, and then at one point he's actually challenged to wrestle a bear. 

Quote from: Hardcore Holly, super-heavyweight
That fucking bear bit me on top of my fucing head and that was it- the beginning of me going bald.  I had a full head of hair until that point!  The bear got me down and ended up on top of me, putting me in an extremely compromised position.  Basically, it looked like the bear was sexually assaulting me.  That pretty much ended my bear-wrestling career. 
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Super Leather on April 11, 2016, 10:27:21 PM
I found a copy of Gary Michael Cappetta's Bodyslams: Memoirs of a Wrestling Pitchman autobiography recently and have read it several times. Cappetta started announcing for the WWWF in 1974 and went on to do his thing for WCW, the AWA, Pro Wrestling USA, and various indies until leaving the business in 1994 or '95. I definitely enjoyed reading about things from his ring announcer's point of view. He places a lot of importance on his role as announcer - maybe more than he should since I don't know anyone who watched wrestling just to see him. Perhaps that is his way of illustrating how seriously he took his job. He puts over Gorilla Monsoon huge for getting him regular announcing work and putting him on TV. Both McMahons and Eric Bischoff treated him like shit. Funny stories about being tormented in the ring by George Steele and Jimmy Snuka. He gives Mean Mark a ride and finds out how Buzz Sawyer ripped off the future Undertaker, which culminates in a locker room confrontation between the two. 2 Cold Scorpio and Ron Simmons are forced to ask Cappetta for a ride after being stranded so Marcus Bagwell could travel alone with his wife. Karmic justice strikes later when the Bagwells stay at the same motel where the boys bring the ring rats, who knock on Buff's door all night long. This book is also where the anecdote about Verne Gagne not watching his own product comes from, much to Cappetta's shock. Lots of other stories too. Great read, highly recommended.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Baby Shoes on August 03, 2016, 08:55:46 AM
Pat Patterson has an autobiography out next week.  Appears to be published by WWE and Vince wrote the forward.  Think I may order a copy.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: alkeiper on September 01, 2016, 07:47:19 AM
The kindle version of Patterson's book is on sale for $4.99.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: snuffbox on November 02, 2016, 12:30:43 PM
Anybody else read the ali vs Inoki book that came out earlier this year?
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on November 02, 2016, 12:33:45 PM
No but I've only read positive stuff about it online.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Springtime for Epic on January 29, 2017, 05:32:30 AM
https://www.amazon.com/Looking-Lights-Path-Wrestling-Heel/dp/1613219873/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1485718250&sr=8-1&keywords=pete+gas

Did anyone know that Pete Gas was releasing a book? Edge and JBL are writing the foreword too!
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Baby Shoes on February 02, 2017, 01:43:07 PM
Ordering the Pete Gas book.  Also put in pre-orders for the next Jericho book and the AJ Lee book.

While doing all this, saw Hot Rod's kids put out a biography on him in the fall.  Anyone know if it is worth reading?
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Super Leather on February 02, 2017, 02:22:55 PM
While doing all this, saw Hot Rod's kids put out a biography on him in the fall.  Anyone know if it is worth reading?

I'm thinking about ordering it using what I have left on an Amazon gift card. I didn't get to write a proper tribute to Piper in my magazine column and was thinking a review might be cool.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Springtime for Epic on February 04, 2017, 03:13:18 PM
https://www.amazon.com/Wake-Its-Feeding-Time-Professional/dp/194276183X/ref=s9_simh_gw_g14_i6_r?_encoding=UTF8&fpl=fresh&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=&pf_rd_r=YJ0YM1EVP7BEVBX8ZD12&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=a6aaf593-1ba4-4f4e-bdcc-0febe090b8ed&pf_rd_i=desktop

Baby Shoes, are you also going to order Ryback's new self-help book?
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Baby Shoes on February 04, 2017, 03:30:02 PM
I saw that but figured it was probably The Secret plus eating a dozen eggs a day
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Baby Shoes on March 01, 2017, 03:54:57 AM
The Pete Gas book is listed as a 3/21 release but Amazon already shipped my copy and it is set to arrive tomorrow

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Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Brodypedia on March 02, 2017, 02:21:26 AM
Ordering the Pete Gas book.  Also put in pre-orders for the next Jericho book and the AJ Lee book.

While doing all this, saw Hot Rod's kids put out a biography on him in the fall.  Anyone know if it is worth reading?

Book is great. I was legit depressed reading the last chapter. Piper was a great father, but had a lot of demons that followed him, dating back to his childhood.

https://www.amazon.com/Second-Nature-Legacy-Flair-Charlotte/dp/1250120578/ref=sr_1_14?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1488425243&sr=1-14&keywords=wrestling

Eh?  Probably a brushing over of Ric's great career and lots of drama over Reid leading to Charlotte becoming a worker.

https://www.amazon.com/Mad-Dog-Maurice-Vachon-Story/dp/1770413324/ref=sr_1_7?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1488425166&sr=1-7&keywords=wrestling

Here's a must have for old school fans.

https://www.amazon.com/Slobberknocker-Life-Wrestling-Jim-Ross/dp/168358113X/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1488425166&sr=1-4&keywords=wrestling

BAH GAWD!! This could be great, or it could just be super positive BS about Watts and Vince mixed with bitching about the modern workers.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Baby Shoes on March 02, 2017, 05:12:55 AM
I had seen the Flair one before and figured it was a condensed version of Ric's old one with some Charlotte fluff but those look like some other great finds, Brody.

I don't know if it was pulling up the Pete Gas one but Amazon keeps suggesting a Justin Roberts book to me, which maybe when it's cheaper... I actually still want to pick up Pat Patterson and Bob Holly's books.

And I just stumbled onto the fact that someone wrote a Hillbilly Jim book!

https://www.amazon.com/Hillbilly-Incredible-Story-Wrestling-Superstar/dp/1942613490/ref=pd_sim_14_7?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=1942613490&pd_rd_r=9YSA3T3890SNKFVZYQ4C&pd_rd_w=Gnj9Z&pd_rd_wg=3PAeR&psc=1&refRID=9YSA3T3890SNKFVZYQ4C
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Super Leather on March 03, 2017, 09:37:33 PM
I used the Amazon gift card and a Prime trial membership to get the Hot Rod biography for free. Great book. I'm not sure where I rate it on my definitive list of mat memoirs, but I don't think I have to tell you that it's way better than In the Pit with Piper, heh. Some of the myths about his pre-wrestling life get debunked, but there's still a fair amount of his kayfabe story that isn't too far from the truth. Piper had a story that he wanted to tell and stuck to it fervently, mostly to keep people from looking into his private life. Lots of good road stories, some of which we've heard before. I laughed my ass off quite a bit. He definitely had his share of demons that affected him throughout his life and left far too soon. Chills go up my spine when I realize that he told everyone on that 2003 HBO documentary that he wouldn't make it to 65 and sure enough... Definitely reviewing this in my next column.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: snuffbox on March 04, 2017, 03:27:47 AM
Looking forward to the Mad Dog Vachon book!
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Harley Quinn on April 08, 2017, 03:33:34 AM
Picked up AJ Lee's book for $17.50 and Justin Robert's book for $17.46. Curious how both turn out.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Harley Quinn on April 13, 2017, 07:51:27 AM
Only 10 pages in and AJ's book is amazing. Snarking almost every other line, love it.

Justin's book was pretty solid throughout. It kind of yo-yo'd at times although it really painted a crazy picture of WWE backstage/corporate wise that generally doesn't get much focus. Worth noting is that his book had a lot of little editing errors throughout including an instance where a paragraph was repeated twice in a row. Just weird.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: KingPK on May 02, 2017, 11:32:03 AM
I read Titan Sinking a few months ago and just bought Titan Shattered last night.  I also started Lion's Pride: The Turbulent History of New Japan Pro Wrestling and it's pretty good so far, though it's weird that the author just drops a chapter about the psychology of Japanese wrestling in with no context.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Harley Quinn on September 16, 2017, 03:48:39 AM
Ric Flair & Charlotte Flair co-wrote a book, "Second Nature: The Legacy of Ric Flair and the Rise of Charlotte," which I picked up at work. Looks like a great read just for Ric alone but it clearly delves into Charlotte's growing up & their family as a whole too, which could prove fascinating.

Looks to be about 360+ pages.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Sabre on September 16, 2017, 06:21:47 AM
I got jerichos 4th book today and look forward to reading. But I feel he is mick foleying it now.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Gert on September 16, 2017, 07:18:48 AM
Isn't the new Jericho book more self-help than biographical or is a mix? I only heard him talk about it on the Dan show.

Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Sabre on September 16, 2017, 12:34:19 PM
I read a few chapters. It's a mix. He really wasn't a fan of the fandango match and how it was put to him.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Super Leather on September 18, 2017, 08:30:59 AM
I found Bob Backlund's book used yesterday. I'm not too far into it - he's discussing his high school wrestling days - but I can already tell this is going to be good.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Harley Quinn on September 18, 2017, 08:58:44 AM
I finished the Flairs book. Solid stuff although Ric mostly covers the HOF stuff and more modern day era but glosses over stuff like his TNA run and such. Charlotte's a far more interesting read but it doesn't delve into too much detail with the very notable exception of her relationship with Riki which is harrowing stuff to read.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Super Leather on October 13, 2017, 09:33:22 PM
Finished Bob Backlund's book the other week. Backlund sticks to his life in wrestling with a little bit about his family, but doesn't get too personal. His years away from wrestling aren't discussed in any real detail. He makes the observation that he was the first babyface world champion under the McMahons who worked the more NWA-friendly beatable champ style. Most interesting are the details on Vince Senior orchestrating Backlund's main event push and issues with Superstar Billy Graham's reluctance to drop the WWWF title. Superstar actually discovered Backlund in the first place and suggested that he give the business a try, so he really felt bad for him when Graham went down to depression and drugs. I also liked reading about the differences in Backlund working champion vs. champion matches against Harley Race and Ric Flair. He talks about refusing to turn heel in the Hogan era, but really enjoyed the thought he put into his WWF heel run in the early '90s. Other stories include the Funks, Eddie Graham, Ken Patera, and Antonio Inoki's futile efforts to get over with the WWWF audience. He comes off as a genuinely humble, nice guy who feels lucky to have gone as far as he did in wrestling and really appreciates the opportunities he was given. Enjoyable read, give it a look.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Springtime for Epic on February 07, 2018, 01:39:46 AM
In news that will no doubt make Brody happy, Dr. D David Schultz is releasing his autobiography:

http://www.eatsleepwrestle.com/?page_id=1883
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Springtime for Epic on February 08, 2018, 06:53:30 AM
http://www.adventuresinpoortaste.com/2018/02/08/shinsuke-nakamuras-autobiography-will-be-released-in-the-us-this-summer/

Nakamura's book, which was originally released in 2015 in Japan, is coming out this summer in the states. I'd love to read it but I haven't had good luck with english-translated literature. A lot of the language gets diced up and makes it hard to read. I'll see what the reviews are first.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: The Valeyard on February 08, 2018, 10:14:29 AM
Shinsuke Nakamura: Macho Business Donkey Wrestler is the first wrestling book I'll buy as a legal adult.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Super Leather on February 27, 2018, 08:43:52 PM
Okay, who else besides me and Brody is salivating at the idea of a "Dr. D" David Schultz autobiography?
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Super Leather on March 05, 2018, 09:33:06 AM
Found Bob Holly and William Regal's autobiographies the other day. I was never a big Bob Holly fan, but it was nice to get an unfiltered take on WWE backstage politics. He sure hates him some Triple H, heh. Starting Regal's book and I'm already stoked at the mention of being a big Slade fan just a couple pages in.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Baby Shoes on March 05, 2018, 09:49:31 AM
I bought Regal's book cheap on Kindle when I got one a few months back but haven't started it.  Every time I think to get Holly's book, I never find a good price.

I still have my pile sitting on my nightstand unread with Jericho's latest, Pete Gas, AJ and I think someone else, on top of several other books of other interests, so unless I found something too cheap too pass, I probably should wait.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Big Beard Booty Daddy on March 05, 2018, 11:07:38 AM
Regal's book is fantastic. He goes into EVERYTHING. The good and the bad, including his drug addiction.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Super Leather on March 05, 2018, 12:27:08 PM
Hardcore Truth was $10 and Walking a Golden Mile was about $14. I almost skipped on Walking a Golden Mile until I remembered that it's apparently hard to find and that William Regal rules. Really enjoying it so far, especially since I know basically nothing about British wrestling.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: alkeiper on March 06, 2018, 06:53:21 AM
Regal's book is fantastic. He goes into EVERYTHING. The good and the bad, including his drug addiction.
The only negative on it is that it's well over a decade old so it feels like a piece is missing. But it's really a great read.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Super Leather on March 09, 2018, 09:38:18 PM
Walking a Golden Mile was fantastic. I love that Regal was the typical British working-class kid who was into badass rock 'n' roll and northern soul before wrestling. Great reading about the British and German wrestling scenes too. I agree that reading it in 2017 leaves me feeling like a lot is missing, but that is the only complaint I could have about what is one of the better WWE-released autobiographies.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: KingPK on March 20, 2018, 01:24:18 PM
I started JR's book.  Pretty good so far, though he hasn't gone too in-depth about much so far (I'm only at his refereeing days though).
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: KingPK on March 29, 2018, 04:16:59 AM
I'm really disappointed in JR's book.  It's about as surface level as it gets and there is just no depth to anything he talks about.  There's some funny stories, but I'd only recommend it if you get it for $5 or less.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Baby Shoes on March 29, 2018, 06:33:23 AM
Thanks for the review on the JR book because I kinda figured it would be like that.  Based on that assumption and all the other wrasslin books that came out at the same time, I passed so may see when it hits bargain bins if I need something to check out.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: cobainwasmurdered on April 03, 2018, 12:32:32 PM
I just read JR's book and yeah it was really not very good. Not just because he skips over a ton of stuff and only lightly touches on things but also jr's shit where he made bill watts a saint was awful and the way he shat all over grizz smith and bob sweetan for being pedos and thena  few pages later talked abut loving jerry lawler was hilarious
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Baby Shoes on April 08, 2018, 04:22:30 AM
Isn't the new Jericho book more self-help than biographical or is a mix? I only heard him talk about it on the Dan show.

Just started reading that this week and it is.  He does pick up basically where he left off but it is more anecdotal stories about how he lives his life off of quotes he got from This is Spinal Tap and Fast Times as Ridgemont High.  You should still like it enough if you liked his prior stuff and it moves fast.  Not quite what I expected but he's already talking about his next book in this book with certain stories he wants to share more detail in a normal book than this one.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Springtime for Epic on May 24, 2018, 05:42:06 AM
I'm almost done with JR's book and it's...ok. On the lower end of enjoyable wrestler autobiographies. He doesn't go into much detail about anything and most of what he talks about is well known. It was interesting how he got his start in WWE and how he came back after he was fired twice but yeah, I'd pass. I got it for Kindle for $2. I'd say that was a fair price.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Harley Quinn on May 24, 2018, 06:31:34 AM
For CWM, August 8th is seeing King of Strong Style 1980-2014 from Shinsuke Nakamura getting released.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Baby Shoes on May 30, 2018, 06:04:10 AM
Finally read the Pete Gas book and it was pretty underwhelming.  Not that I had high expectations but his whole book was “Shane was so cool, I let guys abuse me to show I belonged and earn respect”.  Nothing really juicy or interesting.  He called Test a dick but Test came around after the Summerslam 99 match.  Other than that the only guy he seemed to not be too high on was a timid comment about Headbanger Thrasher. 

He talked about getting sent to Puerto Rico but not really in detail.  His final chapter was about Shane’s 2016 comeback and wishing he’d get a chance.

The only interesting story really was Jarrett wanted him to come to TNA when it started but only on the grounds he trashed the McMahons, which he refused to do.  Guess Rodney fell out with Shane after the releases but Gas doesn’t go too much into it.

Guy seems positive and appreciative and it was a quick read but really nothing interesting or gripping, which could be expected given the scope of his career, was just hoping there would possibly be some more interesting stories given the time period he spent in the company and personalities that surrounded him.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Baby Shoes on September 03, 2018, 04:06:56 AM
Has anyone here read the Brutus Beefcake book?  Not guessing I will find a wide net as I think it is only available through his site directly.  I was thinking about ordering a copy because some of the stuff Conrad touched on during the Prichard podcast made it seem like a read I would enjoy.  But of course if I am going to spend that money on ordering the book from his site, I'm gonna pay for Brother Bruti to do the signed copy.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Baby Shoes on November 12, 2018, 02:44:08 AM
Pulled the trigger and ordered the Nitro book by Guy Evans that I keep hearing so much on today.  Did anyone read that?  Got hyped as the closest thing to like a college text on wrestling and has all kinds of internal emails from WCW and other little known things.  I know Bischoff said he got details he was t pricy too with how deep some of the interviews went.  Just hope I don’t get overhyped.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: claydude14 on November 12, 2018, 11:10:05 AM
I mean the only hype I’ve heard is from listening to 83 weeks but I’m interested to hear an unbiased opinion on it to see if it’s worth it. Is available digitally?
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Baby Shoes on November 12, 2018, 11:39:18 AM
I know 83 Weeks talked about it - I swear I heard stuff elsewhere too.  Feel Bischoff's seal does give it some credibility to me.  I bought my copy on Amazon and they do have the Kindle edition for $19.99
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Big Beard Booty Daddy on November 12, 2018, 11:24:06 PM
Interesting release coming out next year. I got an email from WWE.com and they have an autobiography for Sabu listed for 2019.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Super Leather on November 15, 2018, 04:30:02 AM
I picked up Jericho's The Best in the World the other week and while that's cool, I also found a copy of a book titled Pro Wrestling FAQ. Haven't delved into it yet, but it looks like a fun historical primer that would be enjoyable for any level of wrestling fan. Authored by Brian Solomon who did the WWE Legends book and apparently once wrote for Pro Wrestling Illustrated. Meltzer, Tim Hornbaker, and Steve Yohe (Wrestling Classics board) were some of his sources for research, so I think it's safe to say that there is much to still be learned here.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Springtime for Epic on November 26, 2018, 04:45:05 AM
Very disappointed at the lack of Kindle deals on wrestling books for Cyber Monday (picked up a sweet behind-the-scenes book on The Simpsons though). I was hoping to get my hands on the new Nitro book. They do have Bob Holly's book for only $8 so maybe I'll pick that one up since the reviews have been good.

Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Super Leather on January 03, 2019, 12:16:25 PM
Mailordered copies of Hooker by Lou Thesz and Ole Anderson's Inside Out from Crowbar Press recently. I read Ole's book first, but I wasn't exactly clearheaded when I did and want to give it another go before offering an opinion.

I started Pro Wrestling FAQ the other day. Currently reading a section on Stanislaus Zbyszko and I already feel that I've been searching for this book my entire life.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Springtime for Epic on February 15, 2019, 05:20:21 AM
https://www.amazon.com/Self-Help-Lessons-Bizarre-Wrestling/dp/1770414398/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=al+snow&qid=1550258375&s=gateway&sr=8-1

Baby Shoes & Kamala, where you at?
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: alkeiper on February 15, 2019, 06:46:32 AM
Snow wrestled so long on the indies in the '80s and early '90s that he probably has a ton of interesting stories. Especially wrestling for the Sheik.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Baby Shoes on March 06, 2019, 02:02:40 PM
Found out today that Kamala (wrestler not the poster) has a tell-all he sells through his website

http://www.kamalaspeaks.com/

Guessing I still need to get the Brutus Beefcake one first because that one is probably full of more fantastical bullshit, I would assume
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Super Leather on June 07, 2019, 09:20:14 PM
Randomly found a copy of The Pictorial History of Wrestling: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly at a small bookstore for a nice price. This book was my wrestling bible when I was a little kid, but I also ruined the black & white photos by coloring them in with crayons. Really happy to have a replacement copy complete with the dust jacket.

I then went to shelve the book and discovered that apparently I bought Shinsuke Nakamura's autobiography at some point. I'm assuming I did that during the two months I was on the shelf with a concussion earlier this year.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Baby Shoes on July 08, 2019, 02:40:05 PM
Yesterday I got hyped when I found out this fall there is a Hornswoggle book coming called Life is Short and So Am I that is currently up for pre-order with a September release.

Today I see they announce an incoming memoir by NEW JACK

Great time to be alive
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: The Valeyard on July 08, 2019, 03:01:57 PM
I can promise you one of those will be vastly more entertaining than the other, and better have an audio version.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Bernie Bro Kamala on November 18, 2019, 01:31:47 AM
Tito Santana is coming out with an 2nd autobiography (1st one was a 100 page quickie a decade ago) next month called Don't Call Me "Chico". It's gonna include passages written by Jesse Ventura, Greg Valentine, and Konnan among others.

Also if you pre-order from Tito Santana's website before Christmas, you'll get a personalized phone call from the Arriba Man.

This book actually looks pretty dang interesting since Tito was one of the few guys on the roster during the '80s boom that didn't seem coked out of its gourd. Title also seems to indicate he might call out racist BS although maybe not since the dude who called him Chico is writing in it too.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Springtime for Epic on November 25, 2019, 10:49:08 AM
https://www.amazon.com/Mayor-Kane-Life-Wrestling-Politics/dp/B07ZQL7L6Y/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=kane+book&qid=1574729154&sr=8-1

Surprised no one knew Kane had a book out. I wouldn't mind reading it if I saw it for cheap. I bet there's lots of great stories in there.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Springtime for Epic on January 12, 2020, 04:16:28 AM
https://www.amazon.com/Under-Black-Hat-Life-Beyond/dp/B07ZWHRTK4/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=jim+ross&qid=1578852899&sr=8-1

JR has a new book coming out. His first one was a disappointment so I'm unlikely going to pick this one up unless I can get it for cheap.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Bernie Bro Kamala on February 13, 2020, 05:32:06 AM
"As God as my witness, that puppy's skull has been broken in half, King!"
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Baby Shoes on February 13, 2020, 06:34:00 AM
I remember people posting that when the book first came out.  It’s strange, I’ve had no desire to pick up his last book.  In wrestling books alone I have plenty of others of higher interest, not to account for other reading.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Bernie Bro Kamala on February 13, 2020, 06:50:56 AM
I've heard him tell that story before, maybe on a podcast with Connie. Worst part is when I heard him tell that story, he did in a nonchalant "Well, parenting was different back then, folks." tone.  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Baby Shoes on February 13, 2020, 06:53:14 AM
#SauceIt
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Bernie Bro Kamala on February 13, 2020, 06:55:54 AM
JR doing one of his promos for Burger King or Skittles but instead of shilling junk food, he's talking excitedly about bludgeoning disabled puppies.
Title: Re: Wrestling Books Discussion Zone
Post by: Baby Shoes on February 24, 2020, 06:58:48 AM
Young Bucks have announced a book to be released September 29th