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Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: JHawk on April 03, 2009, 02:29:40 PM
Hall of Fame Month starts Monday, which leads lots of shit from people who may or may not be worthy of the HOF.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: alkeiper on April 04, 2009, 12:07:24 AM
Thank god Wrestlemania month is over.  I think those matches have become way too overexposed thanks to 24/7 programming and the Anthology set.  There's literally nothing new that can be shown.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on April 04, 2009, 03:14:31 AM
Despite having an account there for years, I just NOW began watching all of this stuff so the Mania month had almost no effect on me. I've been marathoning Raw like a mad-man and once I'm caught up on that, I'll watch other specials, then finally get into the individual matches... wherever they chose to archive those (there were a lot of matches from the foreign month I wanted to watch).

URL detective Landy already posted some links on TOTSM.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: JHawk on April 06, 2009, 07:54:04 AM
I'm noticing a repeat or two, as well as a couple of real clunkers, but overall I like this week's update.

Raw: Episode 78  September 19, 1994   |   Approx. run time: 45 mins.  About five episodes ago on King’s Court, Jerry Lawler insulted Duke “The Dumpster” Droese and thought he had the last laugh. He’ll find out on Raw as he faces Duke in one-on-one competition. Plus Vince McMahon interviews Bob Backlund to get his explanation for snapping on Bret Hart. You won’t want to miss what Backlund has to say!

Wrestling Challenge: Episode 46  July 19, 1987   |   Approx. run time: 42 mins.  Three of the most threatening tag teams in WWE are in action this week on Wrestling Challenge. Kamala & Sika, The New Dream Team and the Can-Am Connection all compete. Plus, we get the first video footage of Bam Bam Bigelow. Will he announce which manager will represent him?

Legacy of the Intercontinental Championship: Part XXII  April 1, 2009   |   Approx. run time: 41 mins.  Jeff Jarrett better not be too cocky because anyone can pull a major upset in WWE! Unfortunately, Double J doesn’t learn this lesson. On this edition, we focus on Jarrett’s battles with Aldo Montoya and Bob Sparky-Plug Holly. Catch all 22 parts of this exclusive WWE.com Legacy series in the Intercontinental Title section. There’s more than 20 hours of Intercontinental Title defenses at your fingertips.

Lou Thesz vs. Antonino Rocca  June 13, 2008   |   Approx. run time: 15 mins.  WWE.com Legacy dug into the archives to find a match with the multi time NWA World Champion Lou Thesz as he faces one of the most acrobatic stars to ever grace a WWE ring, Hall of Famer, Antonino Rocca. This is truly a gem only found right here on WWE.com Legacy.

(This is actually one fall of a two out of three fall match that took place May 10, 1963.  Don't ask me why they only have one fall in the archive.)


WrestleMania 2 - Battle Royal  April 7, 1986   |   Approx. run time: 17 mins.  At WrestleMania 2, several NFL football players decided to see if the could hold their own with the WWE Superstars in a Battle Royal. The likes of William "Refrigerator" Perry, Bill Fralic and Russ Francis did an admirable job, but in the end it was the master of the Battle Royal that came out on top - WWE Hall of Famer, Andre the Giant.

WCW Saturday Night - Ricky Steamboat vs. Ric Flair  May 14, 1994   |   Approx. run time: 39 mins.  WWE.com Legacy brings to you another epic chapter in the rivalry between Ric Flair and Ricky “The Dragon” Steamboat. This showdown is for the WCW World Heavyweight Championship. While this was years after their initial matches, these two Hall of Famers still put on a wrestling clinic!

(I'm pretty sure this was their last singles matches against each other.  This is the rematch from Spring Stampede.)

Madison Square Garden - Big John Studd vs. Akeem  February 20, 1989   |   Approx. run time: 10 mins. Akeem and Big John Studd square off in Madison Square Garden to determine who the better big man is. Not only is each man’s pride on the line but imagine how the rabid MSG crowd will erupt if either Superstar can bodyslam the other?

Houston - Sherri Martel vs. Fabulous Moolah  July 24, 1987   |   Approx. run time: 12 mins.  The Fabulous Moolah’s success spanned decades, but in the late ’80s, it seemed as though an up and coming lady in WWE had her number. Moolah was set to defend the Women’s Championship against Sherri Martel. Take a look and see if a new Women’s Champion would be crowned.

Wrestling at the Chase - Hulk Hogan vs. Gilbert Guerrero  January 24, 1984   |   Approx. run time: 3 mins.  Hulkamania had just begun in WWE, and this is the very first televised singles match Hulk Hogan competed in after his return. This match has rarely been seen, but can now live forever in the archives.

King of the Ring - "Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs. Jake Roberts  June 23, 1996   |   Approx. run time: 9 mins.  Celebrate “Stone Cold” Steve Austin’s Hall of Fame induction by reliving one of his first major accomplishments in WWE. Austin faced Jake Roberts in the finals to be named the 1996 King of the Ring. The victory was important, but Austin’s coronation on the other hand made history.

Madison Square Garden - Gorilla Monsoon vs. Lou Albano  June 30, 1973   |   Approx. run time: 6 mins.  It’s a battle of Hall of Famers as Gorilla Monsoon faces Captain Lou Albano in Madison Square Garden. Both men had exceptional winning records but only one man will have his arm raised. Find out who that is in this gem!

Philadelphia - Andre the Giant vs. Killer Khan  November 14, 1981   |   Approx. run time: 12 mins.  Killer Khan did the impossible by breaking Andre the Giant’s ankle. In one of the most anticipated matches of 1981, they met in a Mongolian Stretcher Match. Did Andre get retribution on the Mongolian monster?

WCW Saturday Night - Paul Orndorff vs. The Barbarian  January 30, 1993   |   Approx. run time: 5 mins.  When it comes to Paul Orndorff, most of his matches on WWE.com Legacy have been from WWE. This time, we look at his success over in WCW. The Barbarian is certainly worthy competition and it’s going to come down to the first Superstar who makes a mistake to become victorious.

Championship Wrestling - Baron Mikel Scicluna vs. Rocky Johnson  October 5, 1982   |   Approx. run time: 4 mins.  Baron Mikel Scicluna did whatever it took to get his arm raised at the end of a match. But Rocky Johnson is a little too quick for most of Baron’s games. Find out who will have the final say in being the victor in this match.

Championship Wreslting - Sgt. Slaughter Cobra Clutch Challenge  January 13, 1981   |   Approx. run time: 8 mins.  Sgt. Slaughter challenged anyone to escape his cobra clutch. A young “Hacksaw” Jim Duggan accepted this challenge. Can Mr. USA break Slaughter’s clutch?

Philadelphia- Chief Jay Strongbow vs. Greg Valentine  July 21, 1979   |   Approx. run time: 14 mins.  The rivalry between Chief Jay Strongbow and Greg Valentine sold out areas across the United States. Their battles were so heated that this match became a precursor to their memorable strap matches. You won’t want to miss this fantastic match!
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on April 06, 2009, 08:07:11 AM
I see some HOFer double dipping there, but not bad. I'm looking forward to Superstars starting up (I recall MM831 mentioning it was brought up on the message board as airing).
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: JHawk on April 06, 2009, 08:11:20 AM
Superstars is supposed to start next week.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: alkeiper on April 06, 2009, 08:34:31 AM
Valentine/Strongbow is a good ***1/2.  Those two had really good chemistry.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: JHawk on April 06, 2009, 08:52:03 AM
Next week's videos courtesy of the wwe.com legacy forum on the WWE Universe.

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Well let me give you some information on next weeks videos!

-We will debut Superstars from 1990.  Definitely tell your friends that this is re-airing, they won't want to miss out on seeing this show again!
-ECW Legacy features Hall of Famers that competed in the world of extreme.  This includes Don Muraco, Terry Funk and Eddie Guerrero to name a few.
-Jimmy Hart antics on TNT.
-Junk Yard Dog vs. King Kong Bundy
-Billy Graham vs. Bruno Sammartino
-Pat Patterson vs. Bob Backlund - Cage Match
-The Wild Samoans vs. Rick Martel/Rene Goulet for the vacant tag team championship
-Tito Santana vs. Bob Orton from Madison Square Garden

And tons of more videos!
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on April 06, 2009, 09:36:26 AM
n/m
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on April 06, 2009, 09:38:55 AM
WCW Saturday Night - Ricky Steamboat vs. Ric Flair  May 14, 1994   |   Approx. run time: 39 mins.  WWE.com Legacy brings to you another epic chapter in the rivalry between Ric Flair and Ricky “The Dragon” Steamboat. This showdown is for the WCW World Heavyweight Championship. While this was years after their initial matches, these two Hall of Famers still put on a wrestling clinic!

(I'm pretty sure this was their last singles matches against each other.  This is the rematch from Spring Stampede.)

FWIW, Steamboat/Flair went on to have another more match in July of 1994 as part of the Main Event show on TBS.  I believe Austin and Sherri were both in Flair's corner.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on April 06, 2009, 10:54:28 AM
This probably goes without saying, but 123 Kid vs. Shawn Michaels on Raw 42 is pretty great.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on April 09, 2009, 10:07:33 PM
I'm normally pretty patient with this stuff (mostly because there is so much I haven't even watched yet), but if one of you Hackmasters can find the early link for Superstars, that would be swell.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: zio on April 10, 2009, 05:32:19 AM
I really like this Legacy thing.  I save all the links into folders and organize it and copy and paste results so it's amost impossible for me to get confused as to what show is what, etc.  I save a lot of the classic matches as well and put them into their separate categories.  I basically include all the shows I have saved on my computer as part of my collection.

There's the awesome Summerslam Spectacular from 1993 featuring the great steel cage match between the Steiners and Money Inc.  I could watch that show over and over again.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on April 10, 2009, 05:37:14 AM
I see landy cracked the URLs for Monday's update... EXCEPT Superstars.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on April 10, 2009, 08:03:13 AM
Wow, they put up Superstars today and I didn't realize how far into 1990 they'd be starting the show - December! It's only a few months off from when I started watching, so this will be a nice trip down memory lane. Coffin lockings, Snake squashings.... oh this will be great.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on April 10, 2009, 09:08:00 AM
I really like this Legacy thing.  I save all the links into folders and organize it and copy and paste results so it's amost impossible for me to get confused as to what show is what, etc.  I save a lot of the classic matches as well and put them into their separate categories.  I basically include all the shows I have saved on my computer as part of my collection.

There's the awesome Summerslam Spectacular from 1993 featuring the great steel cage match between the Steiners and Money Inc.  I could watch that show over and over again.

One of these days, I'll add the listings to all the specials aired on Legacy on the ol archive back on TOTSM.  But that sounds exhausting.  And I know once I start, I'll make myself finish and by that time I'll look like "Double Cross Eyed Jim Doogan" as Sheiky would say. 

And yeah, the SumSlamSpect from 93 was awesome.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on April 10, 2009, 10:28:42 AM
Haha, I had never heard a Barbarian promo before. "This is the body all the women love and all the men hate!".
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: alkeiper on April 11, 2009, 02:05:57 AM
They updated early as all the new videos are listed on the site.  I'm determined to plow through them all and provide thoughts.

Thesz/Rocca I've seen before and commented.  Unfortunately this is both men pretty well past their primes.  Still some good stuff.  As a Dean Malenko mark, I probably would've been a fair Thesz fan in the 50s. 

The Cobra Clutch challenge was most notable for displaying Sarge's promo skills.  Tremendous crowd heat there. 
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Post by: Venkman on April 11, 2009, 02:13:24 AM
I like how the Superstars music is a remixed version of the Ultimate Warrior theme.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: JHawk on April 12, 2009, 12:41:03 AM
Madison Square Garden - Harley Race vs. Bob BacklundSeptember 22, 1980   |   Approx. run time: 40 mins.

Fuck yes!  Watching this now!
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: alkeiper on April 12, 2009, 01:11:00 AM
I caught that yesterday.  Backlund spends an inordinate time working the headlock spot.  I like Race's hair and tight pulling, and Backlund's growing frustration at it.  The match picked up at the end, but just went on too long without much action.

Sabu vs. Mr JL.  Shame they don't seem to have much of the Original Sheik in their video library.  You know what would have made this match good?  Selling.  Innovative spots are nice, but they age badly if there is no substance behind them.  I have a feeling fans 10-20 years from now are going to look at Sabu and wonder what the hell the hype was all about.
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Post by: Venkman on April 12, 2009, 01:27:20 AM
I love how in January 94 on Raw, they had Lord Al doing they deadly serious "Next week..." video packages for the feature bout.
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Post by: JHawk on April 12, 2009, 01:30:09 AM
Backlund-Race, while good, was very disappointing.  Twenty minutes for the headlock, although it's worked smartly, and I fucking hate the finish.  35:41 for a DQ?  Why not just go the full hour at that point?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: JHawk on April 12, 2009, 01:58:48 AM
April 2009's ECW Legacy Lineup:

1.  10/1/1993 (aired 10/12/1993):  Abdullah the Butcher/J.T. Smith/Terry Funk vs. Kevin Sullivan/Don Muraco/Jimmy Snuka
2.  2/5/1994:  Jimmy Snuka vs. Tommy Dreamer
3.  4/8/1995:  ECW TV Champion 2 Cold Scorpio vs. Eddy Guerrero
4.  11/16/1996:  Shane Douglas/Brian Lee vs. Tommy Dreamer/Terry Funk
5.  8/17/1997:  Tommy Dreamer vs. Jerry Lawler (joined in progress)
6.  9/16/1995:  Steve Austin's first ECW appearance (Steveamania is running wild)
7.  12/9/1995:  ECW World Champion Mikey Whipwreck vs. The Sandman vs. Steve Austin
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on April 12, 2009, 02:03:46 AM
I love how in January 94 on Raw, they had Lord Al doing they deadly serious "Next week..." video packages for the feature bout.

I love those spots

Bum bum bum bah bum
Lex Luger!  Made in the USA is looking to rebound from a WrestleMania X disappointment
Bum bum bum bah bum
The Model!  Rick Martel wants to show Lex Luger what arrogance is all about
Lex Luger faces The Model . . . Next Week on Monday Night Raw!
Bum bum bum bah bum
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on April 12, 2009, 02:11:15 AM
In my memory, all of those being done by a never seen VO man, so it's funny to see them being done by Mean Gene in 93 and now Alfred Hayes. There were some done by Pettengill that also 'sounded right' to my memory, but it's definitely weird to hear Lord Al discuss the blood feud between Bastion Booger and Bam Bam Bigelow.

On that note, all of the videos suddenly stopped working for me as I'm greeted by "Ready" with nothing happening. Hopefully this resolves itself.
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Post by: alkeiper on April 12, 2009, 02:26:14 AM
Backlund-Race, while good, was very disappointing.  Twenty minutes for the headlock, although it's worked smartly, and I fucking hate the finish.  35:41 for a DQ?  Why not just go the full hour at that point?
On television they aired Shea Stadium bouts in its place.  They likely had a strict time requirement to fill.
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Post by: alkeiper on April 12, 2009, 02:54:15 AM
Rocky Johnson v Baron Scicluna - For as past his prime as he was, Baron wasn't a bad worker at all.  Certainly not someone you'd rush into your HOF, but he was adequate.  Rocky Johnson I never really got the love for.  *1/2

Barbarian v Paul Orndorff - Started hot, but kind of tailed off.  Acceptable tv match, but Orndorff has to have better matches on his resume than this.  *1/2
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on April 12, 2009, 03:08:05 AM
Backlund-Race, while good, was very disappointing.  Twenty minutes for the headlock, although it's worked smartly, and I fucking hate the finish.  35:41 for a DQ?  Why not just go the full hour at that point?

Now that I know that plus the fact that there's no commentary, I'll be in no hurry to watch this . . . well, maybe the last few minutes.  I just don't have the attention span to sit through a 20 minute headlock.  Closest I could go was watching Studd's 8 minute facelock on Andre the Giant in Philly.
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Post by: Venkman on April 12, 2009, 03:11:48 AM
I noticed that in re-posting Thesz vs. Rocca, they spelled Lou's name right this time.
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Post by: alkeiper on April 13, 2009, 02:23:02 AM
Hulk Hogan vs Gilbert Guerrero - Just a squash.  Seeing the crowd light up the instant Hogan appeared though shows what gold WWE really had with this guy. 

Matches I'd seen previously

Backlund-Patterson.  This is a great cage match.  Definitely check it out, and just think that if Patterson was this good at the end of his career, how good was he in the 1960s?

Andre-Khan.  This is how you do a babyface revenge match.  Only flaw was the stretcher.  If Andre couldn't fit on it, how the heck was Khan supposed to win the match?

Sammartino-Kowalski.  Pretty dull except for Bruno's comeback.  These two had to have better matches a decade prior.  Kowalski was far past his prime here, and Sammartino was never an elite worker.

Wrestlemania 2 Battle Royal.  Good fun really.  No real drama but the Fridge/Studd encounter is classic.

Flair/Steamboat (WCW Saturday Night).  Forget if this was on 24/7 or a dvd.  Check it out though, this is another great one.

Monsoon-Albano.  Not much of a match, though Monsoon beating up the Captain is good fun.

Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: alkeiper on April 20, 2009, 03:02:02 PM
Great add this week.  The entire IC Tournament from 1990 is available in one episode.
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Post by: JHawk on April 20, 2009, 03:12:23 PM
They've got the Moolah-Richter "screwjob" match up this week, and now I know why it's rarely aired anywhere in its entirety.  The MSG crowd actually starts chanting "Moolah" in the first two minutes of the match, but we're supposed to think Ventura and Monsoon had no clue?
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Post by: Venkman on April 21, 2009, 07:09:49 AM
I was surprised to see that on Superstars, Mooney just casually throws out that Demolition is down to just two members so they sought out the services of Mr. Fuji. It's not the fact they had no angle for this that surprised me, but the fact they even bothered to mention it. I figured it was always just "one of those things" that happened and no one ever said anything about.
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Post by: alkeiper on April 21, 2009, 08:51:58 AM
Richter-Moolah was a hell of a sloppy screwjob.  Amazing Vince got away with it.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on April 23, 2009, 01:27:33 PM
Capt Lou Albano referencing Dr Rodney Puhpufnik on Raw 79 had me marking out.  Was he the gynecologist or was that Dr Eastgaven?
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on April 23, 2009, 03:30:17 PM
I was surprised to see that on Superstars, Mooney just casually throws out that Demolition is down to just two members so they sought out the services of Mr. Fuji. It's not the fact they had no angle for this that surprised me, but the fact they even bothered to mention it. I figured it was always just "one of those things" that happened and no one ever said anything about.

I believe a few weeks prior, Demolition rejoined Fuji when they ran in on a LOD/Orient Express match.  Unless, you were referring to Ax leaving, then yeah it was just one of those things.
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Post by: Venkman on April 23, 2009, 05:32:00 PM
It was a reference to Ax, yes.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on April 26, 2009, 03:00:09 AM
Just finished watching ECW Legacy and I'm really quite confused over WWE's guidelines.  Granted this was TV-14 so maybe that had something to do w/ these bulletpoints:

- Profanity by the wrestlers/announcers is a no-no (Douglas get beeped out on the mic)
- Profanity by the crowd is A-ok ("Fuck him up Terry, fuck him up!")
- Woman can be shown (During the Sandman/Austin match)
- Man-on-woman violence is ok as long as the woman initiates it (Francine tries to attack Dreamer but is atomic dropped)
- Man-on-woman violence w/o the woman starting it is paused (Beulah being headbutted by Lee and suplexed by Douglas is paused)
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Post by: Venkman on April 26, 2009, 04:01:38 AM
W/r/t Woman, I know she returned to being on Classics very shortly after it all going down. I don't even know if they removed her outside of her and Benoit being excised from the same shot, to be honest. I haven't watched any of the ECW Legacy stuff, but on Classics, it has a disclaimer before it which I assume lets them get away with a bit more (Francine was wearing a hell of a swimsuit during a promo where her and Douglas were on the beach).

One thing that really annoys me when it comes to Classics vs. Legacy is - and perhaps they just aired this way - there is a scant few Raws that have an "Update" segment or a PPV run down when aired on Legacy. The episodes I've been watching recently seem to have missing video packages for King of the Ring. On the flip side, the episode of Prime Time I just watched on Classics shows the same promo for WrestleMania IV three times (a totally 80s looking animated promo with the slot machine cycling to hit "WrestleMania IV") and it even contains a 1-800 number that probably no longer exists (what the hell is "Tele-tron"?). I was happy to see Superstars retained PPV hype.
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Post by: alkeiper on April 26, 2009, 01:21:38 PM
Douglas likely might've been bleeped on the original episodes, no?
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Post by: JHawk on April 26, 2009, 01:24:33 PM
Probably, since most of these episodes aired on stations that followed FCC regulations even at 2am.  Depends on if they're using the TV version or the master unedited version to get the clips, really.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on April 26, 2009, 01:55:06 PM
The Douglas match was from N2R 96.  Not sure if that makes a difference as it was probably aired on Hardcore TV anyway.
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Post by: Venkman on April 27, 2009, 07:51:08 AM
AWA - Jerry Lawler vs. Samoan Joe
February 27, 1988   |   Approx. run time: 6 mins.
Catch Jerry “The King” Lawler competing in AWA action. His opponent Samoa Joe is a relatively unknown, but it doesn’t mean Lawler isn’t going to be challenged. Can the Hall of Famer defeat this wild Samoan?

Haha, nice typo (and poor grammar!) by Styles and crew on that one. Bret Hart vs. Ric Flair (where Bret wins the belt) is finally available in 750k now as well.
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Post by: Venkman on April 28, 2009, 08:22:43 AM
Bah, they've since fixed it.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on April 28, 2009, 08:40:38 AM
The Owen Hart squash on Raw 81 (the most recent one) was a little bizarre for if no other reason than hearing Vince and a hoarse Randy Savage go through every current (at the time) pop culture newsbit and incorporate wrestlers.  I mean they do it all the time but usually limit it to 1-2 bits/match.  They practically went through that week's Enquirer and touched on every article at 60mph.

I caught something about Jack Tunney on Letterman and Bull Nakano doing whatever on some show.
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Post by: Venkman on April 28, 2009, 08:43:34 AM
I suspect that's the Raw that aired on 24/7 in January then. I believe that one opened with Luger vs. Bigelow (which I can see is the featured match for this one).
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on April 28, 2009, 09:05:24 AM
That would likely be the one.  Vince subtly notes that it's Columbus Day about 12,498 times.
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Post by: alkeiper on April 28, 2009, 01:15:35 PM
Is anyone else having trouble accessing videos.  I keep getting a message saying "You can not access the selected content without purchasing it first."
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Post by: JHawk on April 28, 2009, 01:23:24 PM
Checked a few and no problems.  You double checked and made sure your subscription didn't lapse, I'd assume.
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Post by: alkeiper on April 28, 2009, 02:08:47 PM
Checked a few and no problems.  You double checked and made sure your subscription didn't lapse, I'd assume.
Yeah, I was billed on the 15th.
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Post by: Venkman on April 29, 2009, 12:14:09 AM
This is old news to some (as I specifically saw MillenniumMann comment on it), but here's a big update posted last week by the Legacy folks:

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1) We are seeing exceptional numbers with subscriptions on Legacy. With the economic times being how they are we understand that every dollar is important to each member of the WWE Universe.  With that in mind, we truly believe we've provided value for that dollar on WWE.com Legacy and I think many of you have agreed.

2) With these exceptional numbers we've made a pact. If April turns out being the best month of Legacy in the last year we will update the most popular Superstar section on Legacy with 25 exclusive matches.  That means you'll get your 40+ matches for the month and 25 bonus videos. This would take place in July.

3) This Monday expect at least 20 videos added. We still have a lot of Hall of Famers we would like to include. Also this Monday will be a brand new episode of Generations with Cody Rhodes.

4) Speaking of interviews, you won't believe who we interviewed for Legacy today. No names or hints will be revealed but let us assure you, this is big!

5) Our May theme is WCCW.  We have over 25 matches from WCCW featured during the month. This includes the Von Eric's, Freebirds, Shawn Michaels, DIngo Warrior, Jake Roberts, Andre The Giant, Ric Flair, Greak Kabuki and many more Superstars!

6) Our June theme is "Nice Guys Finish Last". The bad guys of the WWE take center stage this month. Randy Savage getting bit by a snake, Paul Orndorff turning on Hulk Hogan, The Rock vs. Triple H in an "I Quit Match" are just a few examples of what you're going to see.

7) July highlights some of the greatest Rivalries in Wrestling. Flair vs. Sting/Hogan vs. Andre/Dreamer vs. Raven/Rock vs. Austin are just a few examples. We're taking things a step further this month.  You've probably seen Hogan vs. Andre from WrestleMania III. Instead of re-airing that match again we're going to find an earlier battle from 1980.

8) August is simply known as "The Summer of WCW". Details are limited but you've requested focus on WCW so we're going to give you that.

9) September is "Back to Old School III". Each week a different territory is featured.

10) October is tentatively a "Masked Theme" month. Rey, Kane, Hurricane are just a few featured Superstars that month.

11) November is dedicated to The Undertaker. It will mark the beginning of two decades of destruction for him.

Was that enough information?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on May 01, 2009, 08:29:46 AM
They put the first May update up today, so hooray!
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on May 01, 2009, 10:53:41 PM
W/r/t Woman, I know she returned to being on Classics very shortly after it all going down. I don't even know if they removed her outside of her and Benoit being excised from the same shot, to be honest. I haven't watched any of the ECW Legacy stuff, but on Classics, it has a disclaimer before it which I assume lets them get away with a bit more (Francine was wearing a hell of a swimsuit during a promo where her and Douglas were on the beach).

One thing that really annoys me when it comes to Classics vs. Legacy is - and perhaps they just aired this way - there is a scant few Raws that have an "Update" segment or a PPV run down when aired on Legacy. The episodes I've been watching recently seem to have missing video packages for King of the Ring. On the flip side, the episode of Prime Time I just watched on Classics shows the same promo for WrestleMania IV three times (a totally 80s looking animated promo with the slot machine cycling to hit "WrestleMania IV") and it even contains a 1-800 number that probably no longer exists (what the hell is "Tele-tron"?). I was happy to see Superstars retained PPV hype.

Well, Raw 70 has a SummerSlam report complete with Todd pimping Domino's Pizza, so I was happy to see that.
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Post by: alkeiper on May 02, 2009, 02:12:29 AM
A lot of new stuff this week that hasn't been seen broadcast in 20 years makes this an easy thumbs up week.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 02, 2009, 02:39:52 AM
I'm not really feeling the old SuperStars eps for whatever reason.  Maybe once Honky is gone, I'll enjoy it more.  It's just not rockin my socks like it is for others.  I don't really watch the Challenges either but that's because I got dvds of the UK reruns a couple years ago but I remember liking these Challenges much more than SS.  Probably has to do w/ enjoying the mid-late 80s much more than the whole RR91/WMVII build.  Once Jake goes heel, things will get fun again.

I still have 3/4 of the HoF vids to go through.  I put them in chronological order and finally got through the 70s. 

I see Jack Scarpoochi has been booted from the IC Title specials and replaced w/ wwe.com boss Joey Styles.  That can only be an improvement.  I can only guess that Tommy Dreamer will take Tazz's place on the ECW Legacy shows.
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Post by: Venkman on May 02, 2009, 07:22:08 AM
My thing with Superstars is, though not quite yet, the episodes are just about when I started wrestling. Yeah, Challenges from 1987 are fine and all, but much like people who rave about 1985/86 NWA shows on Classics, it's not my time for a nostalgic look back. That's not to say one can't appreciate wrestling that's from before their time, but I have a bigger connection to watching The Rockers sqaush Reno Riggins and Barry Hardy than I do watching The Rock and Roll Express squash The Mulkeys. It wasn't even until 1993 that I saw an Express match! (Possibly not true as I may have seen them in 90s WCW).
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Post by: alkeiper on May 04, 2009, 11:13:55 PM
Interesting to see Blue Demon pop up on WCCW.  That's what WWE needs for their Lucha Libre months.  Actual Lucha Libre legends!  This looks more like 1982 than 1986 as the date on the video says.  Demon didn't look bad considering he's at least 60 years old in that clip.
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Post by: JHawk on May 06, 2009, 12:44:07 AM
I don't think they have more than a handful of the dates for the World Class stuff right, but no biggie.

That battle royal is painful to watch.  However, I really dug the Ric Flair-Chris Adams match.  Adams is a heel getting a shot at Flair, and the crowd, used to evil Flair taking on their heroes, the Von Erichs, have no idea how to react.  Both guys get booed as the match starts, and then they're both seemingly being cheered by the end of match.  Pretty good action to boot, far from the usual Flair formula.
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Post by: Venkman on May 08, 2009, 05:11:22 AM
My thing with Superstars is, though not quite yet, the episodes are just about when I started wrestling. Yeah, Challenges from 1987 are fine and all, but much like people who rave about 1985/86 NWA shows on Classics, it's not my time for a nostalgic look back. That's not to say one can't appreciate wrestling that's from before their time, but I have a bigger connection to watching The Rockers sqaush Reno Riggins and Barry Hardy than I do watching The Rock and Roll Express squash The Mulkeys. It wasn't even until 1993 that I saw an Express match! (Possibly not true as I may have seen them in 90s WCW).

Fancy that, guess who The Orient Express squash while Vince totally buries their physiques on commentary on the latest episode of Superstars posted?
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 08, 2009, 06:21:46 AM
I was just scanning that ep last night and caught that.  I love how Vince was trying to put heat on Fuji for putting his lethal combination of the Orient Express against the likes of the Mulkeys.
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Post by: JHawk on May 10, 2009, 02:18:51 PM
I am digging this World Class stuff.  Now if only these dates were somewhat close.  The Midnight Express-Fantastics match that's posted is Christmas Night 1984, yet they gave the date for the Express' American Tag Team Title win, which IIRC was the better match.
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Post by: alkeiper on May 10, 2009, 10:43:19 PM
Von Erichs vs. Rood and Warrior is interesting.  Mike really didn't look like a bad worker.  Had he been given the chance to develop slowly and had the heart for it, he might have grown to be a good wrestler. 
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 11, 2009, 12:14:53 AM
It's been a while since I've seen the Windham/Flair match from last month (the Worldwide draw).  I watched it the other night and damn if that 35 minutes or so (w/o commercials) didn't fly the fuck by.  Fast paced and everything looked very crisp.  Just a great match to sink your teeth into.
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Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on May 11, 2009, 09:32:35 AM
Is that the one on the original Flair DVD? It's one of my favorite matches of all time.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 11, 2009, 09:33:57 AM
That's the one.  That Flair dvd set had so much on it that I was kind of burned out the 1st and only time I watched it prior to now.  Didn't really appreciate how easy they made pro wrestling look.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 13, 2009, 02:22:57 PM
Just watched Hart/Flair & Steamboat/Flair from last month's videos.  While Steamboat & Flair looked like they were having the time of their lives during the Sat Night match, it was completely the opposite on the Hart/Flair CV match.  The Hart/Flair match didn't have that smooth fluidity that Steamboat's match had.  It was as if Flair/Hart were just doing their jobs while Steamboat/Flair looked like they would wrestle for free.  Hard to put my finger on it but I have a feeling most know what I'm talking about.

I can only guess Heenan was drunk during the call of the Sat Night match.  Dude was fuckin grouchy in his commentary.  In a way, I can't really blame Schiavone for no selling a lot of Heenan's material years later.
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Post by: alkeiper on May 15, 2009, 03:22:37 AM
Didn't Flair have an inner ear problem around the time of the Hart title change?  He wasn't on the top of his game at that point, no doubt.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 15, 2009, 03:37:17 AM
I think you're right.  Even hip toss spots looked kind of awkward.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 18, 2009, 10:36:58 AM
FWIW, the new links should be up tomorrow morning.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 22, 2009, 10:46:12 AM
They put up this coming week's videos early like Raw/SuperStars/Challenge/Generations.  I have no clue what the links are for the WCCW matches they're generally more complicated than just "Raw85".

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052009/drm-0525_challenge_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052009/drm-0525_challenge_750.wmv) - Challenge 9/6/87
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052009/drm-0525_superstars229_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052009/drm-0525_superstars229_750.wmv) - SuperStars 1/19/91
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052009/drm-0525_raw85_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052009/drm-0525_raw85_750.wmv) - Raw 11/7/94
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052009/drm-0525_generations_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052009/drm-0525_generations_750.wmv) - Generations w/ Linda McMahon
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Post by: Venkman on May 25, 2009, 12:21:48 AM
"Let us warn you in advance, Slaughter’s views are so strong that in some areas of the United States this interview didn’t even air!"
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Post by: TheSSNintendo on May 27, 2009, 10:45:30 AM
I'm pretty much enjoying these old Superstars shows from late 1990-early 1991. And it's strange seeing The Undertaker use the drop kick as a part of his moveset. He seemed so different with Brother Love than he is with Paul Bearer. "Someone needs to tell him a joke" - funny quote by Piper regarding Undertaker's facial expressions.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 27, 2009, 10:50:45 AM
I was happy to see the Kane tombstone on Linda.  The crowd had quite the orgasm upon impact.  It was unfortunate they cut away before this exchange:

AA:  What happened?  Did he chokeslam her?
Coach:  Actually he tombstoned her
AA: WHAT?!?
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 27, 2009, 01:03:08 PM
So apparently Randy, Cody, & Ted said enough is enough as the former WWE Jukebox who then changed to WWE 24/7 Online to WWE.com Legacy will officially be WWECLASSICS.com on June 1st.  wweclassics.com already takes you to the main page.
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Post by: I Know You Like Sugar on May 29, 2009, 07:49:01 AM
I'm thinking of giving this a shot and I know if I do, my life is going to be put on hold trying to fit all the stuff I want to watch in.

Question is, how does the billing work? If I were to sign up tonight, for example, would the month start on June 1st, or would it be a month from the day I sign up? And from the reading of it, if it's monthly, they keep billing you each month unless you specifically cancel within 7 days of the month ending?
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 29, 2009, 08:14:31 AM
I subscribed yearly in Oct of 06 and it just bills my credit card every Oct for the $39.95.  So yeah, the month/year begins as soon as you place your order.  Not sure about the 7 day clause but I'd imagine that all should be listed on the website.
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Post by: I Know You Like Sugar on June 01, 2009, 01:33:41 AM
Well, so much for that. Seems they have problems accepting international credit cards. So to remedy that problem, they... replied kindly to my e-mail informing me of that. Thanks, WWE! And, here's a suggestion, try using a different card! Genius! I just happen to have eight lying around, maybe one of them will work!

Seriously, it's 2009, you'd think they'd have some kind of alternative to credit cards, especially if they know they've got a problem with authorizing them. Like this newfangled futuristic PayPal thing I keep hearing so much of. But, no. So looks like they won't be getting my $40 after all.
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Post by: Venkman on June 01, 2009, 07:07:56 AM
Wow, they put the ENTIRE 1994 Survivor Series online today. That's pretty sweet.

"Beginning this month, WWECLASSICS.com will air a pay-per-view spectacular in its entirety! To coincide with Monday Night Raw, the first event featured is the 1994 Survivor Series. See the classic championship battle between Bret Hart and Bob Backlund. There’s also three Survivor Series elimination matches and a Casket Match between the Undertaker and Yokozuna.
This video is only available from June 1st – July 5th. All monthly and annual subscribers can view this video as often as they’d like during that time period."
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Post by: Venkman on June 01, 2009, 07:36:46 AM
Huh... apparently, according to Vince's commentary on Superstars, Jaques Rogeau became "The Mountie" because after The Fabulous Rogeau brothers broke up, Jaques felt he needed to have more influence in the world and became involved in law enforcement.

It's also surprising (to me) how much of Slaughter vs. Warrior - pretty much all of it - they showed on Superstars. I'm used to still photos from PPVs, and even remember when video footage from Mania X was shown to showcase Mr. Perfect being a heel, Vince made it sound like it was a huge, unprecedented move.

Haha, Sean Mooney calls The Mountie "Dudley Do-Right from Hell".
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Post by: Venkman on June 01, 2009, 09:46:39 AM
I'm watching Raw 82 right now (October 18/94 or close to that) and it was pretty jarring to be listening to the Raw theme and have Todd Pettengill interrupt it to shill Stridex.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on June 03, 2009, 09:41:33 AM
Finally caught Flair vs Kerry 2/3 Falls match and it was killer.  I thought David Manning was gonna fuck someone up between the 1st and 2nd falls.  Match was an awesome example of Flair escaping by the skin of his teeth. 

Same thing happened w/ his match w/ David Von Erich where he chucked him over the top rope only for Manning to not call for the bell.  So as Flair bleeds from the claw, he bops David w/ the mic making an irate Manning reluctantly call for the bell.

Here's next week's preview which pretty much reveals the whole lineup:
-We're featuring a rare World Title win from Raw but if you check the record books you probably won't find it.
-Hulk Hogan/Paul Orndorff vs. King Kong Bundy/Big John Studd  from Championship Wrestling. Orndorff is a true Hulkamaniac right?
-Rey Mysterio vs. Tajiri from SmackDown in 2003.
-Tatanka vs. Lex Luger - Will someone join the Million Dollar Corporation.
-The only Royal Rumble Match that fits this month.
-Ric Flair/Sting vs. Arn Anderson/Brian Pillman
-Introducing features one of the most popular WWE Legends. We won't mention who but you can try and bribe us. Everybody's got a price...right?
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Post by: TheSSNintendo on June 06, 2009, 10:03:21 AM
I watched the Savage/Roberts encounter earlier. Could've sworn I saw that same segment last year on 24/7.
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Post by: zio on June 06, 2009, 02:05:58 PM
It was, during the Wild Kingdom month.  Think that was April, though I could be wrong.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on June 08, 2009, 07:08:51 AM
Been catching up on WCCW month.  Did Fritz club Sunshine w/ an ugly stick when she turned face.  Here she is looking smokin seconding Jimmy Garvin then a couple years later she's in Billy Jack Haynes's corner looking . . . well, not so effervescent regardless of what Marc Lawrence said about her.

Also, World Class sure did love their "sleep holds".  Seems like the heel does one in every match.
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Post by: Venkman on June 08, 2009, 08:40:36 AM
It was, during the Wild Kingdom month.  Think that was April, though I could be wrong.

You are correct, sir.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on June 09, 2009, 05:14:41 AM
Here's a preview of the next two weeks . . .

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As for next week:
-ECW Legacy returns and Joey Styles has a brand new co-host. We're shooting it tomorrow and thank god this host won a recent match of his or else Joey would have had to go solo for the time being. This month's theme highlights heinous moments in ECW.  Shane Douglas attacking a Pitbull with a broken neck and Beaulah's last match in ECW are featured!
-Money Inc vs. Natural Disasters for the tag titles on Wrestling Challenge
-Battle of Strike Force from Boston!
-Psychotic Mickie James vs. Trish Stratus

And much much more!

And to look ahead at week 4 (we have 5 weeks this month):
-J.R.'s Pick looks at Arn Anderson
-Hart Foundation vs. British Bulldogs
-Triple H vs. Mankind for the World Title
-Hulk Hogan vs. Kevin Nash for the World Title on WCW Nitro (it does fit the theme!)
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on June 17, 2009, 01:32:19 PM
Just watched the ECW - Heinous Moments show.  Not sure if this was never before seen or not but they aired the last few minutes of the Tazz/Dreamer title match from Cyberslam 2000.  They kept it extremely basic and underwhelming probably due to Vince not wanting Tazz to go through a half dozen tables.  There's no commentary until they pick it up w/ Dreamer/Credible.  
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Post by: Venkman on June 20, 2009, 03:26:56 AM
Primetime Wrestling - Ric Flair vs. Randy Savage
September 14, 1992   |   Approx. run time: 28 mins.
This is one of the most requested matches on the WWE Universe forums for us to air on WWECLASSICS.com. Many of you have seen the WrestleMania VIII encounter between Flair and Savage. However, Flair’s second WWE Championship victory hasn’t been seen nearly as often. For the first time ever on WWE.com, watch this match in it’s entirety including pre and post match footage!
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Post by: SteakGrowsOnDmitri on June 20, 2009, 03:31:39 AM
Isn't that match the one Vince had them restart because he hated how they worked it the first time out? And I don't believe it was ever fully shown on tv, just a clip of the ending.
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Post by: Venkman on June 20, 2009, 03:38:08 AM
Believe it.

I had often wondered if my memory of the clip shown on Superstars where Hebner takes forever to count 3 was a false memory. Well, here it is.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on June 20, 2009, 03:42:31 AM
Nitro - Kevin Nash vs. Hulk Hogan
January 4, 1999   |   Approx. run time: 8 mins.
Some call this match the end of WCW. Others didn’t even see it happening since the Monday Nitro announcers practically pushed their audience to watch Monday Night Raw. Regardless, after seeing this match you will truly understand that nice guys do finish last. Just who are those nice guys? The fans who paid and waited to actually see Hollywood Hogan and Kevin Nash wrestle each other that night.

Description of the month
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Post by: Venkman on June 20, 2009, 03:44:07 AM
I liked it too, but didn't they technically pay for Goldberg vs. Nash?

Tony declaring "This is what WCW is all about!" while Hogan and Nash stall before the fingerpoke is tremendous.
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Post by: Venkman on June 20, 2009, 08:02:05 AM
There's an awesome bit on Superstars where FURFACE~! makes his howlingly unfunny debut, followed by a random video clip of The Dragon (using Ultimo's music, naturally) blowing fire, followed up by a reaction shot by Sean Mooney in the Event Center.
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Post by: TheSSNintendo on June 20, 2009, 09:54:10 AM
And the debut of Paul Bearer.
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Post by: SteakGrowsOnDmitri on June 20, 2009, 02:57:49 PM
I'll always enjoy whenever they throw it to the back to Mooney, Heenan exclaims "Who?!?!"
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Post by: Smues on June 20, 2009, 03:43:33 PM
I liked it too, but didn't they technically pay for Goldberg vs. Nash?

Tony declaring "This is what WCW is all about!" while Hogan and Nash stall before the fingerpoke is tremendous.

I think they cover that base by not saying the fans that paid to see Hogan vs Nash, and instead say "The fans who paid and waited to actually see Hollywood Hogan and Kevin Nash wrestle each other that night." So they paid, and then waited to see Hogan vs Nash. Either way what they got was just awful in just everyway, and served no purpose that could possibly be considered productive. Well other than the purpose of helping kill the company.

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Tony declaring "This is what WCW is all about!" while Hogan and Nash stall before the fingerpoke is tremendous.

Yeah that makes me laugh everytime. Someone should dub that line in after the fingerpoke, it'd be even more accurate.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on June 29, 2009, 07:25:22 AM
Billy Jack Haynes must have dropped a STEROID bomb during his interview w/ Mean Gene on the latest Challenge.  There's a flash cut right in the middle of him talking about how the wrestlers stay clean.
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Post by: samoarowe on June 29, 2009, 07:40:17 AM
Watched the 1994 Survivor Series a week or so ago. My humble star ratings:

Diesel, Shawn Michaels, Owen Hart, Jim Neidhart, and Jeff Jarrett vs. Razor Ramon, 1-2-3 Kid, British Bulldog, Fatu, and Sionne: ***1/2

Jerry Lawler and midget imposters vs. Doink the Clown and midget imposters: DUD

WWF title - Bret Hart (c) vs. Bob Backlund: ****1/4

Tatanka, Bam Bam Bigelow, King Kong Bundy, Tom Prichard, and Jimmy Del Rey vs. Lex Luger, Mabel, Adam Bomb, Billy Gunn, and Bart Gunn: **1/2

Casket match: The Undertaker vs. Yokozuna: *

Overall, some fun stuff (especially Owen's acting during the WWF title match) but also some painful stuff. That/Lawler/Doink match got about 16 minutes, so be warned.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on June 29, 2009, 07:46:06 AM
Also saw Savage's last Raw as a commentator.  Sad exchange during the last match as Randy threatens to go backstage and interview Lex Luger himself before Vince reminds him that per Jack Tunney, he is to remain at the broadcast booth.  Then, in a somber yet frustrated tone, Macho mutters out:

"Seems like everyone wants me at this booth"

Saw it a week or so ago so it's not exact.
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Post by: Venkman on June 29, 2009, 09:32:44 AM
The Vince epilogue on Savage's departure is pretty surreal stuff too.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 02, 2009, 05:10:55 AM
Sure was.  Another surreal deal was Vince commentating the Flair/Savage title change.  You'd have never known he chewed out both guys earlier.  And nice to see Heenan/Perfect get out one more "We told ya so" before the breakup occured a few months later.

Also, the Hart/Backlund Superstars match was excellent.  Loved seeing Backlund get Hart in a bunch of wacky pinning predictaments early on then repeat them at the end.  And the whoa whoa whoa sounds Backlund makes are priceless. 

This also reminds me of something about Hart.  Seems like people get on HHH for not making opponents look like enough of a threat to actually win.  I've noticed the same thing in Hart's face vs face and some of his other mid 90s matches.  Seems like the Hart character is just using these matches as a bit of a workout before he knows he can't fool around anymore and ends the match.  The 1st match w/ Backlund and the one w/ 1-2-3 Kid are examples of this.
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Post by: Venkman on July 02, 2009, 08:49:35 AM
I look forward to seeing the Hart / Virgil Superstars match in 3 years. I missed it when I was a kid and remember finding the match a bit absurd even then, but I want to see it. Fightingest champ ever!

Speaking of Superstars, I like how last week's Superstars gave Steamboat the Ultimo theme and this week he has his WCW theme. The WCW theme rules so this is a-ok with me.
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Post by: JHawk on July 02, 2009, 11:52:17 AM
They added a "Where Are They Now" section to go along with the feature on wwe.com which featurs Bob Backlund vs. Greg Valentine, Pat Patterson, Bobby Duncum, and Hulk Hogan, as well as the already posted matches vs. Harley Race and Jimmy Snuka. Good stuff.
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Post by: Venkman on July 06, 2009, 09:14:30 AM
Quite the debut for "The Viking" on Superstars. He does some wacky elbow drop that appears to miss quite badly.
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Post by: Monty Burns on July 06, 2009, 09:20:15 AM
^ Haha, he sure does.
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Post by: Venkman on July 10, 2009, 11:54:58 PM
It's odd hearing Bob Backlund call Diesel "Kevin Nash" on Raw 91.

They also updated early again (yeah!) with what sounds like an interesting 6 man tag (Randy Savage/Harley Race/Adrian Adonis vs. Roddy Piper/Ricky Steamboat/Junkyard Dog) and of course, John Cena's first 25 matches.
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Post by: I Know You Like Sugar on July 11, 2009, 12:24:01 AM
They also updated early again (yeah!) with what sounds like an interesting 6 man tag (Randy Savage/Harley Race/Adrian Adonis vs. Roddy Piper/Ricky Steamboat/Junkyard Dog)

This was on Vintage a couple of weeks ago. It's an elimination match and you get some very good Piper/Savage interaction.
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Post by: Venkman on July 11, 2009, 12:31:11 AM
I'm perusing the WWE Universe WWECLASSICS.com section and there's some interesting tidbits about WCW Month (August):

- The PPV will be a WCW (that should be obvious, though)
- "We pulled one of the few Owen Hart matches from WCW. You won't believe how difficult it was to find that match (WCW didn't do the best job labeling videos when we got their tape library)"
- Only "a few" repeats off the WCW DVD, and it ended up being a coincidence the DVD and August theme occur at the same time.

It's also mentioned that they work together with the Vintage production team on some stuff, so that would explain the above 6 man.

September is not "Old School III" anymore and that theme will likely be December or February (which kind of ruins the "Back to School" tie-in, but it says it gives them more time to search for gems). The good news is the reason for the move is they were hyped to bump-up "Hart Foundation Month".
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 11, 2009, 02:17:36 AM
Got through all the June single-match videos. 

- The Jericho/Christian vs Trish/Lita match from 2003 was pretty awesome I must say. 
- The LOD beatdown by DX/Outlaws was a little depressing but not as bad as I remember it.  Probably because table bumps would become passe in the coming years. 
- The Rock/HHH I Quit match was the stuff TNA dreams are made of just one night after the Rock/Foley I Quit match and IIRC, Rock actually said "I Quit" when taunting HHH.  It was ignored.
- Seeing Hogan getting pinned by AA is always a treat.
- The Harts/Bulldogs match was unsurprisingly fun as was Heenan treating Mike McGuirk like a pile of shit.
- The Tugboat turn was quite comical on a lot of levels.
- Completely forgot about the fast count on the Jericho/HHH match that never happened.

Everything else I had no opinion on or already commented on earlier though I haven't seen the Raws and I'm only about to watch the SuperStars eps w/ feature matches . . . fuck, I need something to look forward to on these shows.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 11, 2009, 04:36:16 PM
For those interested, the WWECLASSICS.com board is taking requests for Hart Foundation month in September.  Everyone gets to request two matches and they'll pick 3 choices out of a hat.
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Post by: TheSSNintendo on July 12, 2009, 01:17:06 AM
Maybe somebody can request that Macho Man/Bret Hart match from Japan in '94.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 17, 2009, 05:02:45 AM
So apparently Venk needs his SuperStars fix . . .

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/072009/classics_superstars237_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/072009/classics_superstars237_750.wmv)

Here ya go.  One week til WRESTLEMANIA!!!
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Post by: Venkman on July 17, 2009, 07:28:15 AM
Hooray. Maybe that means they WILL have stuff up, though I took 'the guy' (Joey?) saying "On the bright side..." as meaning no, they won't.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 17, 2009, 09:05:38 AM
They put all their vids up but one (JR's pick).  I still keep the archive updated at the TOTSM so you can check them out there if they still don't show on Classics's page.  Dusty/Graham, Flair/Dragon 2/89, Hogan/Savage 4/89, Hart/Perfect 4/89, & Hogan/Goldberg were the matches added.

You just have to jimmy the links up to find them.  Sometimes, they'll upload the vids as early as Wednesday for the next week.  Just try not to rub it in their faces that one can backdoor their way through the links.  I don't think Mr Styles and friends would take too kindly to that.
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Post by: Venkman on July 17, 2009, 01:06:48 PM
Whenever I've tried to manually change the post date and episode number of a TV show to get an early link it fails, so I either try on the wrong weeks or am doing something wrong.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 17, 2009, 02:27:29 PM
In all fairness, sometimes the links don't work until Monday.  It's a crapshoot.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: TheSSNintendo on July 19, 2009, 03:07:55 AM
I always wondered something about WWF Superstars. Were Vince and Piper really at the shows, or were they in front of a green screen?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 19, 2009, 03:16:30 AM
The opening is an obvious effect, and many times it looks like shots of them on commentary are fake too, but they must have been there SOMETIMES since Piper walloped Vince with a chair during the Flair's first run.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 19, 2009, 04:21:23 AM
Yeah, same w/ Challenge.  But they were there when the Nasties shoooed Heenan off the set and threw Jimmy Hart onto Money Inc
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: JHawk on July 19, 2009, 02:56:04 PM
I think they were generally in the building so they could be at the table for visual effect, but at least in the 1990s commentary was largely done in post production.  Piper mentions in his book showing up at the studio to do commentary with Vince.
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Post by: Venkman on July 19, 2009, 04:48:28 PM
Of note, and I could be wrong, but the late 80s interview podium I always see on Prime Time where you can see the ring in the background appears to be the same set / angle they digitally insert the commentators, which is kind of weird.
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Post by: DMann1979 on July 20, 2009, 10:05:31 AM
I'm watching Warrior's debut on Challenge, he pulls out a friggin' leapfrog, I've never seen him do that.

Guys debuts can be funny sometimes, cause you see them pull out all crazy kinds of moves they wouldn't do later, once they establish their 'character'.
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Post by: Venkman on July 20, 2009, 10:09:47 AM
A good example: HHH won his debut match with a Diamond Cutter.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: DMann1979 on July 20, 2009, 10:11:19 AM
And with all the Piledriver promotion on the show, I've come up with a theory.

Once Demolition got their theme music, their face turn was imminent.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 24, 2009, 08:12:13 AM
Wow, an Andre/Hogan match from 1980 that ISN'T the Shea Stadium match. And despite seeing it multiple times now, I can't get used to Gary Cappetta doing WWF ring intros. It's awesome though.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 24, 2009, 08:39:41 AM
Two things I always preferred Capetta over Finkel . . . they way he says "and IT IS scheduled for ONE FALL" and how he introduces Ricky Steamboat.

RICKY STEAMBOAT . . . THE DRAGON!
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Post by: Venkman on July 24, 2009, 08:50:15 AM
Lita vs. Trish from 2000:

Fans: Lita! Lita! Lita!
JR: These fans are chanting "Take it off"!
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Post by: SteakGrowsOnDmitri on July 24, 2009, 08:52:08 AM
Yeah Steamboats entrance for his match with Austin is epic and awesome.
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Post by: TheSSNintendo on July 24, 2009, 09:16:14 AM
A good example: HHH won his debut match with a Diamond Cutter.

And don't forget The Undertaker using dropkicks when he first showed up.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: JHawk on July 24, 2009, 01:31:53 PM
The Bruno-Zbyszko match with Zbyszko's turn is up.  For those who have never seen, check it out
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 25, 2009, 03:14:48 AM
Super Dave Osborne is on the first Raw of 95. That made my day.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 25, 2009, 03:41:03 AM
From the latest Raw:

Announcer: The belt cannot change hands on a disqualification
Vince, at the moment Announcer (I forget the man's name but he looks kind of like Shawn Majumder) says "belt": Championship

I realize he's speaking in a broken sentence, but it was really funny all the same.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 25, 2009, 12:46:14 PM
Just watched the Doink/Backlund Raw episode.  Pretty decent match but one w/ absolutely no doubt to what the outcome would be.  It's been a little surreal listening to Shawn Michaels do commentary and having to put over virtually everyone and the WWF product in general.  Nice to see Mark Starr ping ponging back and forth from jobbing for WCW to WWF back to WCW shortly after this.  Fun little punchline at the end of the ep w/ Santa giving Michaels a foam Ladies' Championship w/ McMahon, of all people, referring to it as the b-word.
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Post by: Venkman on August 01, 2009, 07:10:40 AM
I'm sorry, is Mean Gene saying that Hogan's locker room celebration following winning the title at Mania VII was "raped"?

Hold the phone! BOB HOLLY is on Superstars as a jobber in a tag match against the Bushwahckers!

Vince and Piper refer to "The Dragon" as Ricky Steamboat multiple times, so that's something to think about I guess (it seems to be a modern argument to debate whether he was known as "The Dragon" and Monsoon would call him Steamboat because he could say whatever he wanted). I don't like how, after using his Ultimo Dragon theme / WCW theme in vignettes to cover his 1991 theme, this episode uses the generic music they use to cover up Sirius.

The debut of IRS!

Vince calls out Mustafa as being the Iron Sheik! Awesome.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: TheSSNintendo on August 01, 2009, 09:40:24 AM
Is all this from the post-WrestleMania VII episode of Superstars that hasn't been uploaded yet?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 01, 2009, 10:56:25 AM
Sure is . . .

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/082009/classics_superstars239_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/082009/classics_superstars239_750.wmv)

I updated TOTSM w/ the WCW vids for the 1st week though I can't figure out the filename for the ppv.  Well, actually Landy figured out most of the filenames first as he always does.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: TheSSNintendo on August 01, 2009, 02:14:13 PM
How soon will it be until Superstars begins with this theme?


Superstars- 4th theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE-25z5RpT0#lq-hq)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 01, 2009, 10:45:06 PM
Sure is . . .

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/082009/classics_superstars239_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/082009/classics_superstars239_750.wmv)

I updated TOTSM w/ the WCW vids for the 1st week though I can't figure out the filename for the ppv.  Well, actually Landy figured out most of the filenames first as he always does.

Yeah, I wandered on over there to see if you had some links I could use. The weird thing about the PPV is based on June and July, it looked to be a really easy URL to crack. They're either getting tricky or it's just not up yet.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 01, 2009, 11:52:31 PM
I'm guessing they used a derivative of the actual ppv used but I can't figure it out.  My guess would be it's Bash at the Beach 96 but who knows.  It's probably something already offered on CoD so any editing would already be completed.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: TheSSNintendo on August 02, 2009, 10:23:52 AM
Watching these episodes of Superstars over the last few weeks, Paul Bearer seems a little creepier than he usually does. And Macho Man is sort of a tweener on commentary, despite him turning face after WrestleMania VII.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 02, 2009, 11:29:06 AM
IIRC, Savage stays that way until the Roberts feud.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 03, 2009, 04:38:11 AM
Clash XXVII is this month's Dot-Com Big One. I was actually going to predict Clash XXVIII (because it would be an August event, not that it matters) because to me, when the Classics forum guy said "WCW PPV or Clash of the Champions event", that suggested to me it would be a COTC. Why bring it up otherwise? Looking at the link, it seems they added _coc after ppv.

I see Owen Hart's WCW match isn't dated, but that's no surprise after reading the tale of how difficult it was to just FIND the damn thing thanks to WCW's tape labelling (or lack thereof).
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 03, 2009, 05:14:05 AM
ppv_coc was the filename.  Dammit.  I did try 'clash' and clash w/ a few different numbers like 'clash22'.

I wish they would have showed the 8/94 Clash instead for no other reason so I can see Steamboat hulk up against Austin. 
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 03, 2009, 05:15:45 AM
I just watched that match on CoD and loved it. My cousin and I were actually really hyped for that Clash (and that never happened for WCW events) due to all the hype about Flair's ULTIMATE surprise.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: shadylpete on August 03, 2009, 05:16:37 AM
lmao @ them using the Invasion logo
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 03, 2009, 05:19:04 AM
As I noted the DVD thread, it's even better that it's an embroidered (sp?) logo.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 03, 2009, 05:22:15 AM
I enjoy reading stories about WCW.

Quote from: WWEClassics.com on WWE Universe
In some cases, the music used for WCW was part of their music database. We don't share or have the same music they do and in rare cases we don't even know what that original music was (and neither did they when they provided us with video).

I'm looking forward to HHH vs. Steamboat on the next update.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 03, 2009, 05:39:38 AM
According to Tony Schivonie, the Bossman Slam is actually a "Spike Piledriver".
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 03, 2009, 06:14:48 AM
The Superbrawl 6-way is pretty great despite Evan Karagais trying his best to bring it down by not being anywhere near as good as everyone else (though to be fair, the biggest botch of the match is Yang's doing).
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 07, 2009, 07:59:17 AM
For those interested, WWECLASSICS.com have quietly upconverted their entire SummerSlam section to 750K and added a bunch of matches on top of that.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 07, 2009, 08:00:23 AM
Have they not the Monday update yet, or have you just not updated the archive?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 07, 2009, 09:25:03 AM
They haven't done the Monday update yet.  I'll likely update the archive tonight w/ the new SummerSlam matches (Patera/Bad News Brown BABY!!!)

Road to 1,000 vids

EDIT - Updated the archive w/ 25 SummerSlam matches including Warrior/Rude from SS89 that's not on the page . . . ooooooooo.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 19, 2009, 08:32:32 AM
Bix has joined the WWE Universe and is posting in the Classics section, so that's ruined. I expect lots of HGH accusations.
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Post by: TheSSNintendo on August 19, 2009, 09:40:10 AM
I watched the most recent episode of Superstars, and that was a pretty great segment with Warrior/Bearer/Undertaker.
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Post by: Venkman on August 19, 2009, 09:42:17 AM
Yeah, that's the segment where I started watching wrestling, so pretty exciting stuff there.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 22, 2009, 02:12:00 AM
Just watched the Clash of Champions 6/94.  This must have been from an old WWE 24/7 airing since virtually every theme was overdubbed (even Hogan's).  Stunning Steve comes out to Scotty Goldman's theme for cryin out loud. 

We all loved it when Heenan blabbily asked whose side Hogan would be on during BATB 96.  Well, Heenan mistakenly speculates that Sherri could be with Flair before the Sting/Flair match.  No wonder they call him The Brain.  He sees these swerves coming a mile away.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: zio on August 23, 2009, 06:49:51 AM
We all loved it when Heenan blabbily asked whose side Hogan would be on during BATB 96.

HULK HOGAN IS IN THE BUILDING!
YOU DAMN RIGHT HE IS!
GO GET 'EM HULKSTER!
WHOSE SIDE IS HE ON?
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
WHOSE SIDE IS HE ON?
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
OOOH YEAH, COME GET SOME NOW BOYS
..
..
..
..
HULK HOGAN ARRIVES....HUL-HUL-HUL-WHAT IS HE DOING!?
OH MY GOD...
OH MY GOD......
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Post by: Venkman on August 23, 2009, 07:03:04 AM
Catching up on some Raw...

Scott Bigelow has been suspended for his actions at the Rumble! SCOTT! That means it's a shoot, brutha.

Vince treating Michaels as a cheating heel who robbed Bulldog of a Rumble win through perfectly legal means is a bit bizarre.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 23, 2009, 09:05:25 AM
I got so far behind a couple months ago that I don't even start watching the single-match videos until the month is over so I can put all the vids in chronological order in the que.  That said, July was fun.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 23, 2009, 10:14:29 AM
Do you have that online archive stored as a back-up somewhere? I have a feeling that one day it's current storage place is just going to vanish. Definitely no later than April 2010.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 23, 2009, 10:16:08 AM
Yeah, I have a .txt file of it on my pc and my e-mail.  I think I'll just go ahead and create a thread for it.

Edit - Nevermind, the post exceeds the 50,000 character limit
Edit II - They posted another update a day early.  Why order SummerSlam when you can enjoy matches from WCW Worldwide instead?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 27, 2009, 09:43:11 AM
"Thunder has been suggested on our team to air but we're aware of how the it progressed throughout the years."

Lol.
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Post by: Venkman on August 28, 2009, 06:26:30 AM
"We're are working on a new way to make navigation even more accessable for you! It's a work in progress but our hopes in a few months is to have every single match/show in chronological order and then from there fully expand our superstar sections!"

They're ripping you off, MM!
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 28, 2009, 06:42:42 AM
I would have volunteered my list but I don't want to stooge off the fact that we can still watch Chris Benoit vs HHH and the monthy ppvs.
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Post by: Venkman on August 28, 2009, 06:49:15 AM
Good call, good call.

I can't tell if I'm being legitimately thanked or if "Well, thanks for telling us this!" is sarcastic because of the vagueness of what I said (I don't know what their policy on directly acknowledging other people is).
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 28, 2009, 10:12:55 AM
I think it's a little of both.  I mean, the more positive promotion they can get online the better since it's a web-based feature.  They've been pushing the fact that they want the word out.  That said, I wouldn't expect them to provide any Scooter links in the near future.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 28, 2009, 10:17:36 AM
Makes sense.

No early secret update yet?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 28, 2009, 10:33:03 AM
Afraid not, I tried Raw #99 w/ no luck under Jul/Aug/Sept
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 31, 2009, 02:15:02 AM
Do the Monday updates normally take this long? I'm usually sleeping after work but now I'm on afternoons so I'll be looking for a morning fix.

Also, Happy Birthday MillenniumMan!
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 31, 2009, 07:14:32 AM
Thanks Venk!  

I've seen them posted as late as 4pm in the Legacy/Classics era but they're usually up pretty early (before noon).  I got a feeling they had a very secret update earlier in the week since I noticed they coded the filenames differently than normal this month.  I'll have the archive updated when I get home in a few hours or so.
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Post by: Venkman on August 31, 2009, 07:42:11 AM
Yeah, I noticed they were different. I thought it was odd that as of 11:30 I couldn't use 092009/082009/072009 and episode 243 to get Superstars to work, but the reasoning became clear.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on September 03, 2009, 05:45:08 AM
For the .02 it's worth, they added 5 DX matches/segments to the new DX page.
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Post by: Venkman on September 03, 2009, 05:46:17 AM
With URL titles like "January", I assumed they were old.

SmackDown from 2002 on is apparently in the running for the 4th series that's being added in 2010.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on September 03, 2009, 06:33:26 AM
Some are old, some are new (HBK/Mankind, The DX inaugural tag, HHH/HBK, HHH/Hart, and the Poop skit are all new).
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on September 04, 2009, 01:40:11 AM
So I made my votes for Undertaker month and completely forgot about Final Four . . . pretty dopuhty doo dah on my part.
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Post by: Venkman on September 04, 2009, 01:51:07 AM
But maybe they didn't. It's the same with all the votes for Taker/Angle... I'd like to think they already picked that, but maybe not.

I liked the Bret/Owen match they have up, but I wish it was the match where Owen (briefly) wins the WWE title instead. I should have voted on that one when I had the chance.
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Post by: Venkman on September 04, 2009, 03:43:51 AM
This Bret/Lex vs. Bulldog/Anvil match from Thunder... is the first (only?) time Bret and his in-laws actually had interaction in WCW? CoD is currently airing the Nitro where Bulldog debuts and I found it odd that, with Jim having already shown up, there is NO interaction between the Hart family at all. I don't remember seeing or hearing about anything either.

Did Bulldog actually use "Hail Britannia" in WCW by this point? Normally dubbed in themes are very loud but at Fall Brawl 98, it sounds pretty natural and you can still hear Penzer clearly.
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Post by: Venkman on September 04, 2009, 04:43:29 AM
Re: Raw 100.

I can't help but laugh my ass off during the Kama vs Ken Raper match. "Kama lets RAPER back up". "Kama all over Raper". Immature but funny. I also like Kama using what would later become Brian Christopher's music.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on September 04, 2009, 06:16:18 AM
I sent Cawthon some 1995 Challenge results a while back.  Raper was in a match but w/o a graphic and I figured there was NO way his name could actually be Raper so I misspelled it only for Cawthon to correct it before he posted it.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on September 04, 2009, 08:45:34 AM
Did Bulldog actually use "Hail Britannia" in WCW by this point? Normally dubbed in themes are very loud but at Fall Brawl 98, it sounds pretty natural and you can still hear Penzer clearly.

Haven't seen it online but Bulldog did use a version of Hail Britannia but without the booming volume of WWE's version.  It was a lot more subdued in WCW.
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Post by: LuckyLopez on September 04, 2009, 09:00:30 AM
This Bret/Lex vs. Bulldog/Anvil match from Thunder... is the first (only?) time Bret and his in-laws actually had interaction in WCW? CoD is currently airing the Nitro where Bulldog debuts and I found it odd that, with Jim having already shown up, there is NO interaction between the Hart family at all. I don't remember seeing or hearing about anything either.
I know they did a couple of side stories early.  I know Bulldog feuded with Mongo early and I think that turned into Bulldog/Anvil vs Mongo/Benoit with Bret getting involved in passing in a non-wrestling role.  I think Bret had a short program with Booker which led to some Harlem Heat/Bulldog&Anvil friction.  And I seem to recall at least one occasion where an enemy of Hart's targeted Bulldog/Anvil to draw him out, although I can't think of who.  But in general, yeah, it was really bizarre how WCW could get 3/4ths of the red hot Hart Foundation and not give them more than a passing association.  It certainly seemed to be a case where they didn't want Bulldog and Anvil but got them to keep Bret happy. 
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on September 05, 2009, 01:49:14 AM
Vince giving Savage and Piper a trivia lesson in WrestleMania history on Superstars is pretty fun. He also makes a Metallica reference on a Prime Time clip which seems a bit too hip for Vince in 1991.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on September 05, 2009, 01:59:42 AM
This IRS vignette is awesome.

"Maybe she should have thought of that before she jumped in the sack!"
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Post by: TheSSNintendo on September 05, 2009, 02:44:58 AM
I laughed at the ending where Macho Man and Piper were arguing each other. And, this week's Superstars episode has my favorite intro music.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on September 06, 2009, 06:46:34 AM
I was explaining to some of my pals last night how I found this Ken Raper name so funny, then saying it outloud, realized it's even funnier when it sounds like "Can Rape Her". What a name this guy has. He was in the AWA too!
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on September 10, 2009, 01:42:13 PM
Finally capped off the WCW vids w/ the Superbrawl Revenge cruiserweight 6-way.  Suuuu doggie that Evan Kourageous was no good.  He was a walking, jumping, taunting botch machine.  

All in all, wweclassics didn't pick the greatest selection of WCW matches but WWE understandably threw a lot of WCW's gold onto their dvd and left the online sector with some bronze and a little rusty metal.

EDIT - They made a secret update.  Raw/Challenge/SS/ECWLeg/Dungeon/HartvsHennig/OwenvsBulldog are all up in the archive.
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Post by: Ed on September 11, 2009, 01:31:55 AM
Vince giving Savage and Piper a trivia lesson in WrestleMania history on Superstars is pretty fun. He also makes a Metallica reference on a Prime Time clip which seems a bit too hip for Vince in 1991.

Didn't Vince not book Metallica for WrestleMania XI because he didn't know who they were? And then Metallica got a little payback by asking for an obscene amount of money for WWE to use "Enter Sandman" as The Sandman's entrance theme when ECW was restarted which is why he got that shitty generic theme instead? At least, that's what I've always heard.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: luke-o on September 11, 2009, 01:35:50 AM
Vince giving Savage and Piper a trivia lesson in WrestleMania history on Superstars is pretty fun. He also makes a Metallica reference on a Prime Time clip which seems a bit too hip for Vince in 1991.

Didn't Vince not book Metallica for WrestleMania XI because he didn't know who they were? And then Metallica got a little payback by asking for an obscene amount of money for WWE to use "Enter Sandman" as The Sandman's entrance theme when ECW was restarted which is why he got that shitty generic theme instead? At least, that's what I've always heard.

That's the story I know.
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Post by: Venkman on September 11, 2009, 01:45:41 AM
That story sounds interesting, but WWE generally doesn't pay royalties when they don't have to so I'm sure any amount of money would have been too much.

Metallica did provide the theme for SummerSlam 2003 (St. Anger).
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Ed on September 11, 2009, 03:32:56 AM
I don't get why Vince just didn't ask Shane or Stephanie who Metallica was if he hadn't heard of them. They've always seemed more in touch with current pop culture. You honestly think it was Vince's idea to book Salt N' Pepa instead? I bet Salt N' Pepa was Stephanie's idea.

And while I'm on the subject, it still makes me chuckle that Shane and Stephanie have rap songs for entrance themes. It always has.   
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on September 12, 2009, 06:04:42 AM
Jim Quinn CAN'T WAIT until June 15th's WBF competition - he's PUMPED. He was the only one.

IRS going through tax claims made me laugh. Koko and Bulldog are dirty tax cheats.

Heenan sure hates dogs... first he kidnaps Matilda, now he buys a casket for Winston.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on September 17, 2009, 11:01:26 AM
Paging Venkman . . . here's some secret update SuperStars for ya http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/sep_superstars246_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/sep_superstars246_750.wmv) . . . also uploaded was Raw, Hart/Bulldog from IYH, and Hart/Sting from Halloween Havoc 98.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on September 17, 2009, 11:52:57 AM
I'll be sure to watch that Saturday morning. Thanks!
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on September 19, 2009, 12:34:51 AM
IRS wearing a dress shirt with brown long wrestling tights is quite the ugly look.
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Post by: TheSSNintendo on September 19, 2009, 02:10:17 AM
I checked it out as well. Thank goodness he eventually switches to the black pants.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on September 21, 2009, 05:24:12 AM
I just updated the archive from work.  I'm assuming the DH Smith Generations ep was him introducing the Smith/Hart Slam92 match.  I plunked that link under the link that has Natalya introducing the same match from last year.
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Post by: Venkman on September 22, 2009, 05:29:05 AM
Vince and Cornette discussing Duckman on Raw 101 = buys. Vince sure hates the Justice Department.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on September 22, 2009, 07:25:29 AM
I watched Raw 98.  It was a stinker.  HOG, Man Mountain Rock, Mantaur and a feature of MOM/Luger vs Million Dollar Corp yucked up this ep.  

Diesel's studio interview was a saving grace.  Vince outed him as Kevin Nash and asked how Diesel could possibly be able handle all the demands of being the WWF Champion and still keep his marriage in order while getting any sleep.  Oh, and while you defeated Owen Hart yesterday, it's Jeff Jarrett challenging for the title next week.

I was hoping for Big D to give Vince a snarky response like "Maybe I should ask my boss for a day off" but we're about 10 months away from salty black-glove high-fivin Diesel.
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Post by: Venkman on September 26, 2009, 08:12:37 AM
That Diesel is currently causing havoc with that persona on CoD.

I almost pointed out the "WWF" drops in Raw 102 (I believe) over on WWE Universe but I figured it would not be well received by the moderator. I was proven correct when someone else did it.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on September 27, 2009, 10:17:12 AM
Hey K-Man, is it me, or does WWEClassics sound like he's, I don't know, at odds with the CoD people?

"That's not the kind of thing we want on OUR service".
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on September 27, 2009, 10:34:40 AM
It almost sounds like he/she/it/they are just annoyed that CoD doesn't have a rep field questions on their forum thus they have to try to ignore all the ?s that come their way.  How bout the geniuses on the Undertaker topic.  Some are just spewing off matches that are already offered while others are just giving out matches that never happened and ones that they want to happen.  Yikes, maybe wweclassics.com know what they're doing w/ this Undertaker month as long as 1/2 the people on the thread subscribe.

Btw, Snowstorm sure has become quite the salty trooper over the last few months.  Bitchin and moanin and bitchin and moanin every chance he gets.  Years ago, I can remember paying for & selling 6hr tapes for $12.  Shit, that's like 60 new hours of content in 3 months here. 
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Post by: Venkman on September 27, 2009, 10:39:43 AM
I was wondering wtf was going on with that thread all of the sudden getting all these people chiming in with odd comments and such, then I noticed that the main wweuniverse.com page has a splash image link to that thread.

There's a huge time edit on Raw 103 I want to ask about, but sometimes I worry my information seeking questions are viewed as complaints that need to be defended. The show is only 35 minutes (which had been happening a lot at the end of 1994 when they apparently couldn't overdub the music for the Rumble 95 reports / Hakushi vignettes / Kama vignettes) and the reason seems to be that they cut to commercial after the Heavenly Bodies entrance, then the match is JIP, but JIP in a way that makes it seem like more of it aired on TV (Vince doesn't welcome us back, for one).
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on September 27, 2009, 11:14:21 AM
I just checked that out and my guess is that maybe it was similar to the Backlund/Kid ep where the video was damaged.  
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on September 29, 2009, 11:01:01 AM
Thanks to good ol Landy doing the detective work, the archive has been updated w/ almost the entire update for next week including SSSUUUUUUPERRRRRSSSTAAAAHHHHHHSSSSSS!!!!
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on September 29, 2009, 11:05:39 AM
But it's only Tuesday! Sneaky, sneaky.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on October 01, 2009, 05:21:10 AM
wweclassics.com has started a Timeline section where you choose a decade, then a year and all the corresponding videos come up.  Of course, it's early in the process.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on October 01, 2009, 05:23:22 AM
Speaking of which, I see that yesterday was the 1 year anniversary of your archive page on TOTSM.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on October 01, 2009, 05:25:41 AM
I honestly didn't notice.  That's come in handier than I thought w/ wweclassics.com decreeing that they will put videos in the archive "when they see fit".

*throws confetti up in the air*
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Post by: Venkman on October 06, 2009, 04:42:37 AM
I skimmed the new IC Legacy... poor Ahmed Johnson.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on October 06, 2009, 04:56:20 AM
Goldust was just trying to save his life.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on October 06, 2009, 05:03:42 AM
Be that as it may, I was referring to the burial Joey gives him at the end of the show. Classic Styles.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on October 06, 2009, 05:13:08 AM
Ah hah, still haven't seen the ep. 

If he hates Ahmed as much as he loves Shane Douglas, that'd be pretty violent. 

I did watch Owen/Maivia and seeing Bulldog show off a Slammy to the camera as Owen went to the ring was priceless.  Actually, Smith's overzealousness during that whole match was tremendous.
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Post by: Venkman on October 06, 2009, 05:18:49 AM
I'm enjoying this Kato vs. Shawn match, but I'd probably be loving it more if this was an MSG show being called by Heenan and Monsoon and not Hayes and Mooney.

Woah woah woah... Monsoon and Heenan are sitting there! That ain't right. I'm going to assume this was re-dubbed for Coliseum Video and that's the version they used. It's worth noting that Shawn does a flying elbow drop in this match, something I thought he didn't do until the mid-90s.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on October 06, 2009, 05:38:57 AM
Yeah, I believe Mooney/Hayes overdubbed a lot of stuff for Prime Time which would then go on CVs. 

Who woulda thunk Kato ever would have gone to pay windah at the expense of Shawn Michaels.  Like how I mixed a Dustyism w/ a Monsoonism?
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Post by: Venkman on October 10, 2009, 01:37:48 AM
Gotta love the completely out of nowhere Sid Justice vignette on Superstars.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on October 12, 2009, 04:30:28 AM
Tommy Dreamer gets a reference to "Doctor" Stevie in at the end of the new ECW Legacy. He also gets to say "ass" and "bastard" several times in a promo from 2000 so I guess they've lightened up on language too (something CoD seemed to do this month as well).
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Post by: Venkman on October 19, 2009, 04:51:41 AM
From the "Introducing: The Hurricane" match with Matt Hardy:

Heyman: Who's laughing at Hurricane <audio pause> now?

Can't have people knowing it's Gregory Helms, I guess.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on October 19, 2009, 10:20:43 AM
So after weeks and weeks, the Superstars theme from 1991 is now richly engrained in my head.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on October 19, 2009, 10:50:18 AM
Warrior remix, Hooray for USA, or Generic Superstars Theme (which despite the name I gave it is my favourite of the 3)?. The Challenge theme from that era is better though.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on October 19, 2009, 10:54:04 AM
The Generic theme.  I even play the secondary theme in my head after the opening is over. 

But yes, I loved the Challenge theme.  The bomb sound effect when Sags hits the elbow is awesome.  Plus, their secondary theme sounds like the beat from Another One Bites the Dust.
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Post by: Venkman on October 19, 2009, 10:56:46 AM
I still have the 93 (I believe) era Superstars theme in my head, plus I loved all the lasers and such flying through what I guess was cyberspace.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on October 19, 2009, 10:57:36 AM
Hogan going all YES YES YES w/ the belt is kinda cool during that opening.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on October 20, 2009, 02:56:35 AM
I finally saw the IC Legacy ep and my only conclusion for Joey's treatment of Big T is that Shane Douglas and Ahmed Johnson must have had major heat with each other.
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Post by: TheSSNintendo on October 20, 2009, 06:34:08 AM
Hogan going all YES YES YES w/ the belt is kinda cool during that opening.

The only ironic thing is when that intro aired, Hogan had already lost the belt.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on October 23, 2009, 10:01:39 AM
So my job has now blocked wwe.com due to all the streaming content the site in general has.  Now I have to wait until about this time every Monday to check out the updates and their board.  Grrrumph. 
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on October 23, 2009, 10:06:27 AM
Sounds like good brand awareness for WWE though.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on October 23, 2009, 10:32:38 AM
You're always looking at the bright side Venk.  As a reward, some weekend viewing for you . . .

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/oct_superstars251_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/oct_superstars251_750.wmv)
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Post by: Venkman on October 23, 2009, 10:38:53 AM
Good stuff, good stuff. I just got around to watching the most recent one today as it's been a bit of a busy week (partially due to the fact they didn't do an early update last week, preventing me from watching it on the weekend).
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on October 24, 2009, 04:35:39 AM
The extended conversation about Duckman during the Headshrinkers match on Raw 106 is great.

"Duckman is the new generation of ducks".
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: TheSSNintendo on October 31, 2009, 03:47:06 AM
The Classics section was updated yesterday. Early Undertaker matches on there.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on October 31, 2009, 03:59:30 AM
I like the new layout. I also was unaware of that July 1991 match between Hogan and Taker (which is from Hulkamania 6 - I never rented that one as a kid).
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on October 31, 2009, 05:13:58 AM
I'm 1/2 way through WMXI.  I never knew Taker pinned Bundy.  I always thought it was a DQ.  I also liked the super long version of the Allied Powers theme playing after their match thanks to the audio difficulties of the Turturro (sp?) bit.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on October 31, 2009, 05:22:12 AM
How much in Malaysia!?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on October 31, 2009, 05:24:03 AM
I always read that as muhlASIA in honor of Celebrity Jeopardy.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on November 04, 2009, 12:45:00 AM
Just watched the Spoiler on TNT vid.  If I didn't know any better, I'd swear that was Ricky Steamboat under the mask during that interview.  Their voices are almost identical.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on November 05, 2009, 02:08:59 AM
The rampant shilling of Duckman on these latest Raws amuses me. "We've got Cornfed on the phone!"
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on November 09, 2009, 04:44:20 AM
This week on Superstars: Liz speaks out against gay marriage!

Maybe I just read too much into her answer to Gene's question but I was amused.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on November 09, 2009, 11:57:17 AM
Hey MM, I couldn't make the chat at all. What were the highlights?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on November 09, 2009, 12:21:51 PM
Eh, not much to be honest.  Taker/Michaels from WMXXV has been confirmed for two weeks from now.  They did a vote for a cage match and a ladder match for December.

Looks like the Jeff Hardy vs Umaga cage match from 2008 will win out over Edge/Angle and Bruno & Tito vs Savage & Adonis.  Also, MitB from WMXXV is neck and neck with Jeff Hardy vs RVD for favorite ladder match w/ Christian/Jericho pulling up the caboose.

Also, The Fink will host the IC Title eps starting next month.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on November 09, 2009, 01:21:44 PM
Joey burying the talent too much, eh?
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Post by: landy1987 on November 09, 2009, 07:16:34 PM
First time I've been on one of their chats - not very good. Barely any of my comments were shown, and the ones I did showed up about 5 minutes after I typed them
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on November 10, 2009, 04:19:01 AM
I asked if Styles would be in hiding from Ahmed Johnson.  It didn't make the cut.

Also, I've been going through Mask Month and yikes, it's a grinder.  The two Starrcade 91 matches stink.  Even the GAB92 tag kinda just goes back and forth w/o any real direction.  I've always found Stampede footage to be a chore to sit through.  I'm going in chronological order and have Michaels/Shinobi as the 1st match cued up during my next watch (and nap) session. 

On the bright side, I did like seeing Spoiler on TNT.  He has a speaking style very similiar to Ricky Steamboat.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on November 15, 2009, 06:50:32 AM
WWECLASSICS had a secret udpate today.  My guess is that they update the webpage tonight but who knows.  Reason I bother mentioning it is that it brings the archive to over 1,000 links.  Woooooooo!
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on November 15, 2009, 08:18:03 AM
I don't care for these Secret Sunday updates... doesn't do me much good (unless they update early morning). I miss Hidden Fortune Friday.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on November 15, 2009, 10:47:38 AM
What about the ever so rare Terrific Tuesday Titans?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on November 16, 2009, 12:27:52 AM
Poor Koko has to team with a jobber against the Natural Disasters.

Bryan Alvarez's good friend Buddy Wayne is on the show!
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on November 16, 2009, 10:07:14 PM
Well, some dipshit just posted that the ppvs from months ago are still available when the correct link is used so the long-term use of those links is now likely in jeopardy.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on November 19, 2009, 10:15:41 AM
Landy sniffed out some new links.  SuperStars is up and running Venk as is Taker/Michaels from WMXV.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on November 19, 2009, 11:05:38 AM
I think I'm going to ask if, at some point, matches they add from 2008 and beyond will get a HQ/16:9 option (like youtube, ya know?) for users with widescreen monitors. I just don't want to be scolded for sounding like it's a complaint.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on November 19, 2009, 11:07:16 AM
Quit yo bitchin Venk.

But I know they addressed this and they shoot all their original programming in 16:9 (but they don't air it in that format obviously).  They said there are plans to air vids to be streaming at 1.2 mbps (is that the right lingo?) at some point.  I'm guessing when that happens the widescreen will accompany it.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on November 23, 2009, 10:09:34 AM
For all you Survivor Series fans, they uploaded the first 8 Survivor Series shows in their entirety (or however they were released on dvd).  The links are in the archive.  YAY SAXOPHONES!!!
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Post by: Venkman on November 23, 2009, 10:43:02 AM
But for a "limited time only", right ;)? I assume this is the bonus that was supposed to happen tomorrow.

Naturally I JUST watched the first 9 on DVD so this does little for me, but it's a pretty cool move.
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Post by: Venkman on November 23, 2009, 10:53:39 AM
Oh, and I had to laugh at the fact that their splash image for this announcement is a shot of Ric Flair clearly holding up the tag team title in 1991 instead of the NWA title. Way to destroy kayfabe!
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on November 23, 2009, 10:59:32 AM
I think it's the high tech blur job they did to make it look like the tag belt.  That's the ticket.
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Post by: Venkman on November 23, 2009, 11:03:20 AM
Funny story about that: As a kid, I didn't even know it was the wrong belt. He held it up and I just remember it being so shiny with the glare of lights, all I could say to my cousin about it was, "Wow, Flair's belt is shiny".
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Post by: JHawk on November 23, 2009, 02:14:14 PM
Funny story about that: As a kid, I didn't even know it was the wrong belt. He held it up and I just remember it being so shiny with the glare of lights, all I could say to my cousin about it was, "Wow, Flair's belt is shiny".
They settled the dispute with the NWA about a week before Flair wrestled a house show in my hometown.  I was PISSED that Flair didn't have a belt with him at all, as I wanted to see the belt in person.
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Post by: alkeiper on November 23, 2009, 11:52:25 PM
I've never seen the uncut versions of the early Survivor Series, so I absolutely love this.
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Post by: JHawk on November 24, 2009, 12:40:04 AM
The British Bulldogs get eliminated and everything.  it's great
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Post by: landy1987 on November 24, 2009, 06:05:12 AM
How nice of them to secretly upload next weeks videos already. Pretty easy to work out the links for once:

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122009/dec_raw112_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122009/dec_raw112_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122009/dec_superstars256_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122009/dec_superstars256_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122009/dec_challenge80_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122009/dec_challenge80_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122009/dec_ic30_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122009/dec_ic30_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122009/dec_cage1_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122009/dec_cage1_750.wmv) (Jeff Hardy vs. Umaga)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122009/dec_cage2_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122009/dec_cage2_750.wmv) (Ric Flair vs. Jimmy Garvin)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122009/dec_cage3_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122009/dec_cage3_750.wmv) (Harts & Honky vs. Savage & Strike Force)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122009/dec_hiac1_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122009/dec_hiac1_750.wmv) (Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122009/dec_hiac2_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122009/dec_hiac2_750.wmv) (Austin & Undertaker vs. Kane & Mankind)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122009/dec_hiac3_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122009/dec_hiac3_750.wmv) (Triple H vs. Cactus Jack)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122009/dec_hiac4_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122009/dec_hiac4_750.wmv) (6-Way Hell in A Cell)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122009/dec_hiac5_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122009/dec_hiac5_750.wmv) (Triple H vs. Chris Jericho)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122009/dec_hiac6_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122009/dec_hiac6_750.wmv) (Triple H vs. Batista)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on November 24, 2009, 07:55:44 AM
Nice catch changing the 092009 to 122009.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on November 24, 2009, 12:22:55 PM
The British Bulldogs get eliminated and everything.  it's great

The Survivor Series in Cleveland?  I didn't know they could show it uncut.

As Piper would do, you have to flip the posts and channel Jake Taylor for that.
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Post by: alkeiper on November 26, 2009, 10:37:35 AM
I should make a separate thread for the 1987-88 Survivor Series.  I found it a little interesting that Greg Valentine forced the Blue Blazer to submit to the figure four.  Five years later, Owen scored a submission elimination over the Blue Knight, Valentine under a mask.
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Post by: Bernie Bro Kamala on November 26, 2009, 11:24:35 AM
I was watching part of Survivor Series '88 too today before the Lions game. Shaping up to be the best old-school Survivor Series I've seen (though I need to watch '93-'95 again since I haven't seen any of 'em since I was a mark). The tag team match was probably in the **** range and the opener was a hell of a lot of fun if not a bit jobberiffic. I remember the main event being a bit dull when I watched it as part of the first Hogan DVD set but King Cucaracha was raving about the finish in another thread so maybe 15 year old me's opinion was wrong.

There's a funny/cringeworthy blown spot in the opener where The Blazer goes for a leap frog on Valentine, misstimes and ends up with a headBUTT to the groin from Valentine. Apparently, according to Bret's book, Owen ended up having to go the hospital that night with a testicle that was swollen to the size of a grapefruit. Yikes!
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Post by: Venkman on November 26, 2009, 11:26:31 AM
I liked that Honky worked against Beefcake 3 shows in a row.

So, maybe it's me, but I find it odd that they have the 89-94 secretly available as well (except 91, which is advertised) but I see no reason they bothered to upload these shows. It's even stranger because the WWEClassics.com guy said the bonus stuff would be "15+ hours" which even uncut, these two shows are not. Guess something got changed.

Also of note, Warrior using a running double sledge twice in a row to win his match in 88. Was this some alternate finisher of his from 88, or just one of those "It's Survivor Series so that's enough to win" moments?
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Post by: Bernie Bro Kamala on November 26, 2009, 11:29:00 AM
I liked the running storyline of Bad News Brown being the world's grumpiest/worst Survivor Series partner. Too bad, he left the company before he could do it three years in a row!
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on November 26, 2009, 11:54:32 AM
I liked that Honky worked against Beefcake 3 shows in a row.

So, maybe it's me, but I find it odd that they have the 89-94 secretly available as well (except 91, which is advertised) but I see no reason they bothered to upload these shows. It's even stranger because the WWEClassics.com guy said the bonus stuff would be "15+ hours" which even uncut, these two shows are not. Guess something got changed.

My guess is that they either had 2nd thoughts in giving away an entire volume and a 1/2 of Survivor Series dvds away for no really good reason or they wanted to upload them to be able to hype a "surprise(s)" later on down the road.

It was funny how the opener at SurSer88 mirrored SurSer87's opener.  On the heel side, there was Honky as captain, Bass, & Davis returning and on the face side, there was Beefcake.  Well, 40% overall ain't bad.  Boy kayfabe-wise, what a shit lineup on the face side besides Warrior/Beefcake.  I mean fuck, Brunzell/Houston/Blazer probably hadn't won matches against competition stiffer than Iron Mike Sharpe in the last year.  Plus, these assholes barely ever tagged.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on November 26, 2009, 12:35:25 PM
When I watched 88 last week I was trying to wrap my head around why Non-Bee Jim Brunzell and Scott Casey were worthy partners on their teams. Wikipedia informed me they were substitutions for Don Muraco and JYD. In fact, Scott Casey was a double sub, filling in for JYD's original substitute, The Brian Blair.

Your theory makes sense (and in fact, when you said they had done this, my initial reaction was "thanks for putting DVDs I purcahsed for $40 each online for a $4 monthly fee"). The only logic gap there is they claim to remove the shows next week.
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Post by: Bernie Bro Kamala on November 26, 2009, 12:38:17 PM
Yeah, you can really see the roster starting to thin on the '88 show. No wonder why they went to 4 on 4 for next year.
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Post by: Venkman on November 26, 2009, 12:40:02 PM
Koko B. Ware was a main evneter anywhere in the country back in '88, ya know. 2 years later he was cannon fodder for The Undertaker... then in 1991 he was teaming with jobbers on Superstars.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Bernie Bro Kamala on November 26, 2009, 12:42:53 PM
Who are you to insult El Dandy Brady Boone?
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Post by: Venkman on November 26, 2009, 12:44:20 PM
No, I mean a LEGIT jobber whose name I can't even remember. It was a sqaush match for the Disasters (I mention it way up there).
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Post by: alkeiper on November 26, 2009, 12:50:09 PM
Yeah, you can really see the roster starting to thin on the '88 show. No wonder why they went to 4 on 4 for next year.
Those 20 man tag matches were fun, but I think they really killed the rest of the shows by taking up most of the working talent.  In one match you had Shawn Michaels, Bret Hart, the Dynamite Kid, Davey Boy Smith, Jacques Rougeau, Arn Anderson and Tully Blanchard.  That's overkill.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Bernie Bro Kamala on November 26, 2009, 12:52:57 PM
Orient Express vs. Koko B Ware & Jobber (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xb4ufh)

Ah, I see what you're talking about, Venk. I love Gorilla and The Brain bickering about the Hulk Friendship Bracelet that Tugboat gave Gorilla.

Virgil and I think even Tito Santana used to do this a lot too. Last guy to try and pull it off was maybe 123 Kid in late '93 when he picked Barry Horowitz to team with him against The Quebecers.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on November 26, 2009, 01:55:32 PM
I also remember a match Orient Express had on Challenge vs Hercules & Jim McPhearson (?).  Monsoon claimed that Hercules was filling in for McPhearson's scheduled partner.  Orients win and attack Hercules afterwards.  Quasi-jobber Paul Roma comes in for the save and sets the seeds for the Power & Glory formation that would take place a few weeks later.

EDIT:  Landy had this match after all.

Orient Express vs. Hercules & Jobber (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xb4ujo)

Hillbilly Jim was another friend of the jobber kind.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Bernie Bro Kamala on November 26, 2009, 02:49:03 PM
Watching the last two matches of Survivor Series. Heenan Family Vs Team Hacksnake was surprisingly good. Prolly ***1/4-***1/2 or so if I were a rating man. I love how Ventura accidentally sort of alludes to the finish of the match during the intros, saying something about "What would happen if it were 4 on 1?" and then quickly covering his mistake.

Poor Tito thinking he could sunset flip Andre The Giant. Has a fiery JTTS to mid-card guy ever successfully sunset flipped a fat dude?
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on November 26, 2009, 10:41:43 PM
I wasn't too keen on the Snake/Andre elimination match.  Granted, it was refreshing to see Scott Casey last significantly longer than he did on the CV version.  The 4-on-1 portion just seemed to drag on far too long considering Jake only really ended up beating Rick Rude.

The main event was great if you like the hokiness and campiness that was SNME-era WWF action . . . which I do.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on November 27, 2009, 02:46:30 AM
At least Koko and Herc got entrances for those matches.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: DMann1979 on November 27, 2009, 09:59:41 AM
Watching Survivor Series 88 made me think of a fued that never happened but I imagine would have been pretty sweet if it had.

Jake "The Snake" Roberts vs Mr. Perfect

Couldn't they have fit Roberts into a program for the IC title against Hennig at some point?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on November 30, 2009, 06:02:44 AM
The PPV this month is Anarchy Rulz. They don't say which year and as I'm typing this, it isn't actually available, but 99 is the one that has aired on 24/7 in the past (and the one people like) so I'll assume it's that one.

I was thinking they were going to swerve us and air December to Dismember, so this is good.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on November 30, 2009, 06:52:11 AM
Hmmmm interesting.  That would explain why trying derivatives of Massacure on 34th Street wouldn't work for the ppv filename.  I don't have access to wwe.com from here but I can live with Anarchy Rulz 99.  IIRC, it has a little bit of everything.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: DMann1979 on November 30, 2009, 08:32:49 AM
ECW missed the boat bigtime on shooting RVD into the stratosphere when Anarchy Rulez happened.  RVD ended up defending his TV title against Balls that night, when he should've been challenged one last time by Jerry Lynn (having lost to Lance Storm earlier that night), with Lynn FINALLY defeating him for the title.  This would free Rob up for a program against Mike Awesome for the World title, and then he could've defended it against Tazz on his way out.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on November 30, 2009, 08:35:19 AM
It is indeed AR99 that's up. It's even split into two parts, CoD style, though according to the forums this has to do with encoding problems with 3 hour programs.

Next week's highlights:
-6-Man Ladder Match from WCW Nitro
-Rarely seen Ladder Match from Smokey Mountain Wrestling
-Dusty Rhodes vs. Tully Blanchard - Barbed Wire Ladder Match

(they annouonced more but these were the most interesting).
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: alkeiper on December 01, 2009, 11:30:20 PM
Flair/Garvin was all sorts of awesome.  Here's the aftermath of that angle.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EfOxRmTLys#)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on December 05, 2009, 04:36:11 AM
Some real geniuses on the WWE Forums this month. Some guy keeps talking about CoD and another guy states that no one is answering his random request because he's an ROH fan.

There's a clip on Raw 112 of an Allied Powers vs. MOM match from "The Action Zone" where Bulldog lifts Mabel up on his shoulders. That was pretty cool.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on December 07, 2009, 03:57:34 AM
Apparently WWEClassics.com thought the camera shot of Warrior looking all shaken up after getting out of the casket was as awesome as me (see: Awesome Pictures Thread) because they used the same screencap for their splash page. I'd like to mention on their forums how cool that is, but it's hard to say "lol, I made that same screencap while using a backdoor URL to watch Superstars on Saturday!"
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: alkeiper on December 07, 2009, 07:06:18 AM
Yes, I'm the person who asked if Wargames 2000 could be taken out and shot.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on December 12, 2009, 09:20:47 AM
So landy / Millennium Falcon: So I'm following right, was there only a partial hidden update / are the links still being cracked? I was interested to see what 5 War Game matches were going up but I noticed only 3 were actually found (going on the assumption that 96 was already there and Classics.com listed WG2K separately in the preview) AND 87 doesn't even have a link, just a spot reserved for a link.

I can't wait for the Jake/Warrior saga to conclude next week. I did find it a bit jarring how the end of Superstars out of NOWHERE references Ric Flair and how they'll have "more on it next week". That's because Heenan originally talked about it on Challenge, right?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on December 12, 2009, 09:34:19 AM
Yeah, the links are a headache to figure out since they've been mixing 092009 and 122009.

The 1987 link is actually there (it was a part of Luger's WATN) but for some reason, the old board took it upon itself to make an empty line but the link is there under NWA GAB. Only War Games 2000 was actually found (Landy does 99.9% of the findings). 94 & 96 were already uploaded.

EDIT: As for the Heenan question . . .
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtLuNhZntcM#)

Does the guy have a name?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on December 12, 2009, 10:15:42 AM
I just really, really want 1992 to be there.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on December 12, 2009, 10:26:56 AM
Let's see . . . I doubt they'll show the first 1987 War Games since it was too similiar to the 2nd one.  I'm guessing they'll upload 1989 since they had that one in 300k quality. 1991-93 would be possibilities. 1994-96 are already posted. 1997 won't happen and I'm sure they recognize that 1998 sucks, but not in a carwreck way 2000 did . . . well not in a fun carwreck that 2000 was.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: alkeiper on December 12, 2009, 01:15:21 PM
I wish they'd show the original WarGames.  It is superior to the second outing. 
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on December 15, 2009, 12:57:16 AM
They went ahead and uploaded most of next week's update already. No Raw yet, but SS/Challenge are up along w/ some not-so-great stip matches.  Thanks to Landy for sniffing out the links.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on December 15, 2009, 05:50:49 AM
Well good for him because those hints were incredibly vague. I assume the URL had things like "nodq" in them to make it easier to figure out.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on December 15, 2009, 12:27:16 PM
Yeah, one was buriedalive, another was fca, how he got junkyardinvit . . . I'll never know.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on December 15, 2009, 12:50:47 PM
I might have to break my "Superstars on Saturday" rule to see the Jake/Warrior conclusion (plus more on Bobby Heenan's Revelation).
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on December 16, 2009, 03:55:45 AM
Yeah, one was buriedalive, another was fca, how he got junkyardinvit . . . I'll never know.

Trust me, it's all just luck and random guessing  ;D If one works in a particular week then all the rest are usually generally the same format.

EDIT - just found one more as well!
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/dec_hardcoretitle_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/dec_hardcoretitle_750.wmv)
I think from Raw in May 02
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on December 19, 2009, 08:38:00 AM
Regarding Raw not being up yet, isn't that because they're splitting up the TV show uploads for this Monday and next Monday (5th Monday during holiday time off = no TV shows or something)? I recall Classics saying something odd about the update for the 28th but now I don't remember what it was and I don't feel like looking it up right now.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on December 19, 2009, 09:36:47 AM
I think they were just referring to the monthly ppvs. It's possible classics just got cute w/ the Raw filename this week for whatever reason.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on December 19, 2009, 09:49:54 AM
I can't even find the reference to it now. I swear someone at some point asked if there would be an update on the 28th and the answer was "we weren't going to, but now we are - no TV shows though". All I find now is something about the 28th having a Joey Styles special.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on December 19, 2009, 10:54:53 AM
Yeah, I think they're taking the week of the 28th off except for Styles's Top 10 ECW Moments. However, they should be uploading vids this Monday the 21st.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on December 21, 2009, 02:46:30 AM
Once again, their thumbnail picture for Superstars is pretty much exactly an image I captured from the hidden link version of the show. Weird.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on December 21, 2009, 03:00:51 AM
Rock vs. Angle vs. Big Show for the Hardcore title (a match I have no memory of) is pretty fun. It naturally breaks down into run-in madness but admittedly, this is pretty fun to look back on when it's not being worn thin by happening on TV every week.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on December 23, 2009, 12:26:58 PM
Landy sniffed out some links for January 4th update including the weeklies/IC31/Bischoff's WWE debut/Madusa's Nitro debut/Beerbath/Blackman vs Shane from SummerSlam 2000.

I am grossly behind in my classics viewing.  I just got done with the cycle of Raws before the 1st IYH.  Best part of the three eps was Sid screaming out "You will all learn!" after attacking Razor followed by muttering "You will all learn".
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on December 23, 2009, 12:51:59 PM
"Bischoff's WWE debut"

What a segment for the January 4th update.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on December 24, 2009, 12:18:22 AM
January does not sound like it is off to a good start. They're cutting back TV shows to air on a CoD schedule (1 every 2 weeks, which really adds up after awhile) and it sounds like their Rumble of choice is 99.

I can understand cutting Raw back to twice a month because they'll catch up to the "MNW: The Beginning" episodes on CoD soon, but come on, is Challenge or Superstars going to end too soon? Oh well.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: JHawk on December 24, 2009, 12:28:03 AM
January does not sound like it is off to a good start. They're cutting back TV shows to air on a CoD schedule (1 every 2 weeks, which really adds up after awhile) and it sounds like their Rumble of choice is 99.

I can understand cutting Raw back to twice a month because they'll catch up to the "MNW: The Beginning" episodes on CoD soon, but come on, is Challenge or Superstars going to end too soon? Oh well.
The bright side is I'll get a chance to catch up on the TV as I am way the hell behind.

The down side is at that rate, it will take 28 years to get Raw to where it's currently at in real life.

I don't want to relive Little People's Court when I'm pushing 60.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on December 24, 2009, 08:06:54 AM
With the 99 Rumble already uploaded, my guess is that they'll upload the 2008 Rumble as "the most shocking". 

Cutting back on the shows is a bit of a drag but considering I just saw the Savage proposing to Liz ep of SuperStars last night (with extra special green screen effects), it's not as if I'll notice the difference for a while.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on December 24, 2009, 08:19:34 AM
I guess I could catch up on Wrestling Challenge (I haven't watched a single episode).
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on December 24, 2009, 09:00:33 AM
Skip the first three eps, unless you don't mind hearing Lord Alfred Hayes stumbling doing ring announcing and/or Ernie Ladd commentating . . . Vintage is to Michael Cole what Without a Shadow of a Doubt is to Ernie Ladd.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on December 24, 2009, 12:33:25 PM
The thing with Challenge is I feel I caught most of the key elements from Mania III - Mania IV and beyond (June right now) on CoD via PTW, just no squash matches. I now realize cutting it to two Challenges a month means they won't pass PTW either. Interesting.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on December 24, 2009, 12:52:55 PM
The nice thing about the 1st year of Challenge was that most of the jobbers could actually wrestle a little bit making about 1/2 the matches of each show somewhat competitive.  Jobbers of the day included Iron Mike Sharpe, Barry O, Lombardi, Sivi Afi, Moondog Spot, Lanny Poffo, SD Jones, ect.

Not to mention they would bust out the superstar teaming w/ jobber scenario every few weeks or so. You haven't lived until you see Corporal Kirchner come charging in with the calvary of Jim Powers & Salvatore Bellomo to scare off Sheik/Volkoff/Hercules.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on January 04, 2010, 06:08:09 AM
Anything refreshing surprised this week? I can't access wwe.com from work anymore (too much streaming content says the blocker).
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on January 04, 2010, 06:11:55 AM
Here's a surprise: The people running the website while Classics.com is on vacation are incompetent. WCW Level incompetent. The CoD website has an empty schedule (and I think every cable system with the service is missing stuff) and the .com page says that Joey Style's favourite ECW matches include WCW's Junkyard Invitational. This week's WWE.com Original is NOT History of the IC title but instead JR talking about Ron Simmons winning the WCW title... in honour of Black History Month!
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Paperback Ryback on January 04, 2010, 06:41:14 AM
Venkman, in your Superstars/Challenge viewing period have you run across that LoD squash where they bust the guy's neck on the Doomsday Device?  The jobber ends up landing on his head and sells it like a No Mercy (N64) lariat.  I believe they used a clip of it in a couple promo packages and the LoD DVD released a short time ago.  It sounds sick, but I'd like to watch it.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on January 04, 2010, 07:39:58 AM
I can't say it rings a bell, but almost every jobber that takes a finisher on Superstars oversells it to an awesome degree.

On that note, despite being part of a jobber tag team just a few weeks ago, Koko B. Ware is back as featured talent that is allowed to win via dropping his opponent on his head with a Ghostbuster. Good times.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Paperback Ryback on January 04, 2010, 07:49:21 AM
I think it's less of an oversell and more like the momentum caused him to Droz himself upon landing.  Oh well, thanks anyway.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on January 04, 2010, 08:06:00 AM
I finally checked out the Classics page . . . yeah, not pretty.  Though Rumble 08 is all in one piece.

I saw Lynn/Storm from Anarchy Rulz.  Good match but way too much smirking and grinning on Storm's part for my tastes.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: TheSSNintendo on January 04, 2010, 09:16:49 AM
Hope they update the Classics page soon, 'cause I wanna see the newest edition of Superstars.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on January 04, 2010, 09:40:42 AM
Here ya go . . .

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/jan_superstars260_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/jan_superstars260_750.wmv)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on January 04, 2010, 10:13:21 AM
It's funny to hear Vince and Piper put over the Real World Title (at least the size of it), but I guess if they thought it was now their title they wouldn't call it a piece of tin.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on January 07, 2010, 12:37:14 AM
Last video for next week I've found - ECW invading Raw in 97:

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/jan_ecwinvades_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/jan_ecwinvades_750.wmv)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on January 09, 2010, 08:45:02 AM
Trying this out for a month.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on January 09, 2010, 09:15:28 AM
FYI, you seemed to have picked a bad month in terms of their ability to add new things.

That said, there an awesome archived library and you may find yourself getting hooked on old Raws and such.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on January 09, 2010, 10:19:31 AM
What Venk said. This month is a mess. Next month is a chick month. However, March will be 1985 month so that can be fun.

I'd guess most of the enjoyment would depend on how comfortable one is watching videos online rather than on TV (like CoD). But yeah, there's a shitload of videos to look at.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on January 11, 2010, 05:07:39 AM
They put Punk's 1st title win up today (complete with the JR promo that led to it), so that's a win.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: TheSSNintendo on January 11, 2010, 08:27:33 AM
Has the August 31st Superstars been uploaded yet, or are they waiting another week?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on January 11, 2010, 08:30:25 AM
Every other week now, though for all I know it's secretly uploaded.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: JHawk on January 11, 2010, 04:18:29 PM
I'm still having trouble finding the new content on this thing.  This shit needs fixed pronto.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on January 11, 2010, 10:50:15 PM
Unless they haven't posted everything they were supposed to, they've REALLY cut back on the new content the first two weeks.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on January 12, 2010, 01:15:51 AM
I believe the normal crew is back from vacation next week so we'll see. Unless it's the week after.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on January 12, 2010, 10:50:06 PM
I love how "Anthony" puts over the fact that he has a job and a life yet he's the first to bitch if the videos aren't fully updated and wants his $1 back or something like that.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on January 18, 2010, 04:28:28 AM
From Mr. WWEClassics.com, back from vacation:

Quote
We are doing a little needed cleanup on the site today.  I will have most of the videos up by the end of the day.  Introducing will be released tomorrow.  It's with Evan Bourne and we need to get final clarification on a couple photos in it (which we'll have to replace otherwise).

Expect an update email tomorrow as we're reading the comments on here and are getting very aware of the last two weeks.

Someone is in trouble.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on January 18, 2010, 05:08:07 AM
I wonder if it will be his debut under "Matt Sydal" or if they'll just skip ahead a week and censor anytime the announcers mention anything about last week's debut.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on January 18, 2010, 05:08:57 AM
They have the new Raw up if you can't wait (day after KOTR 95)

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/jan_raw117_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/jan_raw117_750.wmv)

Can't find anything else though as I don't know what to look for!
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on January 18, 2010, 05:11:00 AM
They also replaced the JIP Dreamer/Tazz link from December with a new one that includes the entire Cyberslam 2000 title match.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on January 21, 2010, 05:52:44 AM
In response to people (like me!) asking if there's a chance Superstars could keep it going weekly:

Quote
We're discussing it.  Please understand, we're following decisions already made. We've read the forums and are bringing up in meetings the possibility of airing Superstars every week again.

So while we might have been told to reduce content (as evident this month), we still make the final decisions as to what videos actually make it in our content plan and continue to hope that we're providing the best matches possible.

In February, instead of a pay-per-view we're going to air two Home Video programs. One from 1997 and the other from I believe 2003.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on January 21, 2010, 08:24:09 AM
Sad to see no Waylon Mercy matches being uploaded. They weren't kidding when they said they were getting leaner in content.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on January 21, 2010, 09:51:31 AM
I wonder who made this decision. The 24/7 department? The home video people? None of the above?

I'm also trying to figure out which theme fitting 97 tape release fits a Diva theme. My first thought was Sable Unleashed, but that came out in 1998 and I also imagine they can't actually air it. 2003 I'm assuming is whatever fluff DVD came out that year (let's say the one where they went to Phoenix).
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on January 21, 2010, 09:53:18 AM
I'd love to see them blur the see through nipplage on Sable Unleashed.

My guess is the 1hr Sunny home video. It was produced in 1996 but may not have been released until 1997. Other than the Sunny music video, it's really just a 1/2 assed best of tag team rasslin video.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on January 25, 2010, 03:43:52 AM
Their hint about adding a fourth show:

Quote
Also, as you all might know, we are planning on adding a fourth series to WWEClassics.com later this year. Did we mention there might be a hint as to what show on our site somewhere.  Start hunting! We're not giving away what it is regardless if you guess right but please discuss amongst yourselves!
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: TheSSNintendo on January 25, 2010, 09:49:11 AM
I'm gonna go with WCW Saturday Night.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on January 25, 2010, 10:05:20 AM
I'd love to see them blur the see through nipplage on Sable Unleashed.

My guess is the 1hr Sunny home video. It was produced in 1996 but may not have been released until 1997. Other than the Sunny music video, it's really just a 1/2 assed best of tag team rasslin video.

Confirmed to be the Sunny video and "Trish Stratus - 100% Stratusfaction", apparently because Survivor Series 2001 wasn't fully blurred for whenever that Anthology volume comes out.

I suppose on one hand the Instant Classic feature is not needed with your youtubes and what not, but I like the fact that the Shawn/Bret moment from Raw is already archived for the rest of history (in theory) online.

Someone guessed the answer to the 4th show was Nitro, despite them saying repeatedly they can't air it until it loses 24/7 Exclusive rights, because of the Nitro logo being used for the Hall run-in. That was shot down.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on January 25, 2010, 10:47:12 AM
I think someone posted a youtube link of it awhile back, either here or on The Board, but The Beverly's KILL this poor jobber on the 8/31 Superstars.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: TheSSNintendo on January 25, 2010, 11:30:11 AM
I think someone posted a youtube link of it awhile back, either here or on The Board, but The Beverly's KILL this poor jobber on the 8/31 Superstars.

That was one sick head spike.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on January 28, 2010, 01:59:13 AM
Anthony is incredibly annoying on the forums.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on January 28, 2010, 02:05:39 AM
I really don't mind them cutting back on content since it seems to piss of young Tony.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on January 29, 2010, 10:45:14 AM
They have a new section up called "Big Game Classics" I just noticed. Some of the stuff looks new like the Superstars Bowl from 97 and the WCW matches

http://www.wwe.com/subscriptions/wweclassics/biggame/ (http://www.wwe.com/subscriptions/wweclassics/biggame/)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: JHawk on January 29, 2010, 03:42:21 PM
Of course, the Superstars Bowl link is broken
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on January 29, 2010, 08:36:30 PM
Of course, the Superstars Bowl link is broken

This is the correct link for it:

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/video/jukebox/20041/13351970/Superstar_Bowl_?view=wvx&speed=750 (http://www.wwe.com/content/media/video/jukebox/20041/13351970/Superstar_Bowl_?view=wvx&speed=750)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on January 29, 2010, 11:02:27 PM
Is that Lance "Hype Central" Wright doing the ring intros?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: JHawk on January 30, 2010, 02:47:01 AM
Is that Lance "Hype Central" Wright doing the ring intros?
Yes it is.  He had a very brief run in the WWF before being Brakus' manager in ECW...I wish I could forget some of this stuff.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on February 02, 2010, 10:21:44 AM
So here's a funny one.

I noticed two e-mails in my gmail account from WWE - one thanking me for my subscription renewal, and another talking about how they failed to charge my credit card. The were sent at the exact same time and my account DOES work, so I'm not concerned at the moment... but this did cause me to realize that the CC I'm using expires in 2 months and I'll need to change the info. The old Classics.com had a page that said "my account" where you could see this sort of thing, but where exactly is this on the new set-up?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on February 02, 2010, 10:41:24 AM
I would guess it would be in the Billing section underneath the Superstars listing.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on February 02, 2010, 10:45:40 AM
You'd think so, but no. Unless it is. My quick scan of it made it seem it just outlined pricing.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on February 02, 2010, 11:21:01 AM
http://ppv.wwe.com/SelfCare/default.aspx?navGraph=BuyFull&aid=wwe&iid=Jukebox_Annual&returnUrl2=http://www.wwe.com/subscriptions/247online/&returnUrl=http://www.wwe.com/subscriptions/247online/&cancelUrl=http://www.wwe.com/subscriptions/247online/ (http://ppv.wwe.com/SelfCare/default.aspx?navGraph=BuyFull&aid=wwe&iid=Jukebox_Annual&returnUrl2=http://www.wwe.com/subscriptions/247online/&returnUrl=http://www.wwe.com/subscriptions/247online/&cancelUrl=http://www.wwe.com/subscriptions/247online/)

Maybe this will work
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on February 02, 2010, 11:23:47 AM
According to me singing in there, they've been trying to bill a credit card that expired in 2008. That would explain the two messages at the same time (I rarely check my gmail account, I just know I get a $4 charge on my Visa every month for the service). Interesting.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on February 04, 2010, 05:45:54 AM
Finally a secret early update again! I need help finding some of the matches though (calling MillenniumMan)

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/feb_superstars262_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/feb_superstars262_750.wmv) (WWF Superstars 9/7/91)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/feb_ic32_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/feb_ic32_750.wmv) (Legacy of IC Title 32)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/feb_battleroyal_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/feb_battleroyal_750.wmv) (Women's Battle Royal 11/23/85)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: alkeiper on February 04, 2010, 05:56:29 AM
Landy, I came up with a list of the MSG shows that were not televised in the 1980s (thanks to Cawthon).

Dec. 8, 1980
Apr. 25, 1983
June 17, 1983
Aug. 27, 1983
Nov. 21, 1983
Mar. 25, 1984 (4,000 at the Felt Forum)
May 21, 1984 (several thousand at the Felt Forum)
Wrestlemania
Summerslam '88

For those 1983 cards no information is given, so they may well have been televised.  Either way it's all contained within 18 months.  Perhaps MSG network had alternate programming commitments. 
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on February 04, 2010, 06:18:49 AM
It says on the website as well that the following shows were televised but I'm pretty certain that's a mistake mainly because no footage has appeared from these before to my knowledge:

2/18/80
6/16/80
7/20/81
8/24/81
2/15/82
4/26/82
8/2/82
10/4/82
12/28/82 (I know this has aired on 24/7 etc.)


Several shows from the late 70's listed as televised I'm pretty sure weren't either
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: FroGG_NeaLL on February 04, 2010, 06:21:48 AM
According to me singing in there, they've been trying to bill a credit card that expired in 2008. That would explain the two messages at the same time (I rarely check my gmail account, I just know I get a $4 charge on my Visa every month for the service). Interesting.

If you weren't singing to them, they might've got all that straight in the first place, man.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on February 04, 2010, 09:22:53 AM
Finally a secret early update again! I need help finding some of the matches though (calling MillenniumMan)

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/feb_superstars262_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/feb_superstars262_750.wmv) (WWF Superstars 9/7/91)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/feb_ic32_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/feb_ic32_750.wmv) (Legacy of IC Title 32)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/feb_battleroyal_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/feb_battleroyal_750.wmv) (Women's Battle Royal 11/23/85)

I'm on the case . . . well, in less than an hour when I get home from work.

EDIT - Oh dear, this is rough. I'm trying shit like mixedtag, wmvi, SapphireSherri, Sapphire_Sherri, SherriSapphire, Sherri_Sapphire, MixedTag, WMMixedTag, wm6. Not to mention trying to mix in Feb with feb.

Sable's return is providing no luck, sable, Sable, SableReturn, SablesReturn, Sable_Return, sablereturn, ect.

My eyes are starting to cross.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on February 08, 2010, 06:10:22 AM
Anything interesting posted this week?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on February 08, 2010, 06:29:53 AM
Misty Blue/Vula/Heidi Lee Morgan vs. Linda Dallas/Mad Dog/Kat Leroux from WCW in 88 and a battle royal from 11/23/85 "Championship Wrestling", which I suspect are the two matches Classics.com said in the forum he was certain no one had seen.

Next week will have a segment from an episode of Mania (!) involving Savage and Sherri.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on February 08, 2010, 06:33:15 AM
Linda Dallas . . . I think I remember seeing pictures of her in Apter mags. Quite the looker IIRC.

I'm hoping for some charming AWA footage . . . though if it doesn't come this month, it should surely be a part of 1985 month.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on February 08, 2010, 07:38:15 AM

Next week will have a segment from an episode of Mania (!) involving Savage and Sherri.

I had this on Youtube once, it's a quick interview from a Raw taping where Savage interviews Sherri in the ring which was only aired on Mania
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on February 08, 2010, 08:26:59 AM
I'm hoping for some charming AWA footage . . . though if it doesn't come this month, it should surely be a part of 1985 month.

Though I assume you, like me, are home from work by the time you read this and could easily do this yourself, here's next week's preview:

Quote
-EXCLUSIVE interview with Trish Stratus for WWE Introducing.
-Trish Stratus Home Video from 2003 Program
-Will Randy Savage and Sensational Sherri reconcile on a 1993 episode of WWE Mania?
-A crazy 6-Person Tag Team Match from One Night Stand 2006
-Madusa vs. Wendi Richter from AWA
-Mixed tag from WCW Thunder

Please tell me Thunder had other mixed tag matches that didn't involve Mark Madden, Pamela Paulshock, and Mean Gene Okerlund.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on February 08, 2010, 08:30:09 AM
I wonder if that Madusa/Richter match is the one from Memphis where Bad Company come out and just beat the shit out of Wendi until the Top Guns save.

I know they had a David Flair/Stacy vs Crowbar/Daffney (something like that) uploaded in 300k quality back in the day so it wouldn't surprise me if they just upconverted it.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: alkeiper on February 08, 2010, 09:33:44 AM
Linda Dallas . . . I think I remember seeing pictures of her in Apter mags. Quite the looker IIRC.

I'm hoping for some charming AWA footage . . . though if it doesn't come this month, it should surely be a part of 1985 month.
Find Magnificent Mimi on Youtube.  You won't regret it.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: FroGG_NeaLL on February 10, 2010, 10:26:28 PM
Linda Dallas NSFW:

http://www.1000celebrities.com/arcimg/lindadallas.jpg (http://www.1000celebrities.com/arcimg/lindadallas.jpg)


Playboy's Lethal Women of Wrestling 1989:
Featuring Luscious Lisa, Magnificent Mimi, Godiva (Dawn Rice), Thinderbolt (Dana Felton), Farmer's Daughter (Trudy Adams), Coal Miner's Daughter (Donna Spangler) and more:

http://www.cabaret.com.ua/2008/01/27/Magazine-Classic-Lethal-Women-2008-01-27/#more-2651 (http://www.cabaret.com.ua/2008/01/27/Magazine-Classic-Lethal-Women-2008-01-27/#more-2651)

Magnificent Mimi is 3rd row down, center, and 4th row, 3rd pic.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on February 11, 2010, 07:11:47 AM
Hidden early update again. I'm still trying to find the Six Person Tag from One Night Stand 2006 based on their preview:

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/feb_challenge87_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/feb_challenge87_750.wmv) (Challenge 5/1/88)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/feb_raw119_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/feb_raw119_750.wmv) (Raw 7/10/95)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/feb_intro_trish_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/feb_intro_trish_750.wmv) (Introducing Trish)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/Feb_TrishHV_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/Feb_TrishHV_750.wmv) (Trish Home Video)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/feb_sherri_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/feb_sherri_750.wmv) (Randy Savage interviews Sherri) (WWF Mania 6/19/93)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/feb_awa_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/feb_awa_750.wmv) (Madusa vs. Wendi Richter)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/feb_thunder_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/feb_thunder_750.wmv) (Shane Douglas & Torrie Wilson vs. Crowbar & Daffney) (WCW Thunder 7/12/00)

On the Challenge episode I noticed they've edited the two Superstars matches that were shown on that episode (A Jake Roberts squash and Rick Rude squash) and just kept the aftermath of the Rude match which is the Cheryl Roberts angle. I guess they couldn't be bothered to edit the Superstars of Wrestling banners?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on February 19, 2010, 09:08:18 AM
The Lawler / Yankem segment on Raw 118 is pretty funny just due to the absurdity of it. Lawler shows up at a dentist office in his wrestling gear and just randomly harasses a kid about his issues with Bret Hart (and admonishes him for looking at inappropriate pictures in National Geographic).
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on February 20, 2010, 12:24:27 AM
Here's some Saturday morning super secret SuperStars 9/14/91
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/Feb_superstars263_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/Feb_superstars263_750.wmv)

ECW Legacy . . . still with cohost Tommy Dreamer
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/Feb_ecwlegacy_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/Feb_ecwlegacy_750.wmv)

Jumping Bomb Angels vs The pre-Glamour Girls from Prime Time 7/20/87
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/Feb_angels_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/Feb_angels_750.wmv)

Madusa vs Paul E from the 11/92 Clash
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/Feb_Madusa_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/Feb_Madusa_750.wmv)

Brother Love Show w/ Liz & Sherri from the 11/89 MSG show
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/Feb_BrotherLove_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/Feb_BrotherLove_750.wmv)

I can't seem to find the other previewed vids right now.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on February 20, 2010, 03:20:02 AM
Good work, I was still checking for "feb" links. The Bomb Angels match btw is the rematch from PTW 8/10/87 and not 7/20/87. Craig DeGeorge and Lanny Poffo are on commentary.

I wonder what the special Piper's Pit is they are airing? Cyndi Lauper? The only other woman I can think to appear was Moolah
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on February 20, 2010, 04:14:24 AM
Good work, I was still checking for "feb" links. The Bomb Angels match btw is the rematch from PTW 8/10/87 and not 7/20/87. Craig DeGeorge and Lanny Poffo are on commentary.

I wonder what the special Piper's Pit is they are airing? Cyndi Lauper? The only other woman I can think to appear was Moolah

Thanks for the heads up on the date. I just put in the first date that Cawthon's page had listed and didn't bother to click "Find" again. Not sure on the Piper's Pit. I was assuming it was Moolah and tried incorporating her name into it but it probably is Lauper.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on February 20, 2010, 04:31:21 AM
Superstars highlight:

"My buddies were over there, fightin' and dyin' for this country while you were eatin' monkey brains!"

It's also weird to hear Sid do a promo where he isn't yelling... he talks really low and silent, and you just keep expecting him to begin yelling, but it never happens.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on February 20, 2010, 09:57:53 AM
Here's the Fabulous Moolah on Piper's Pit
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/Feb_MoolahPit_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/Feb_MoolahPit_750.wmv)

Stumped on the Survivor Series match.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on February 22, 2010, 04:22:53 AM
Anyone know what that women's Survivor Series link ended up being coded as? It was quite the headache trying to figure it out.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on February 22, 2010, 04:33:44 AM
Feb_SS08
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on February 22, 2010, 04:35:35 AM
2008? Yech, I was hoping to see the Japs beat the hell out of each other from 95.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on February 22, 2010, 09:04:25 AM
I set up this POS page in case TOTSM goes belly up for real

http://mm831.angelfire.com/WWECLASSICS.com.txt (http://mm831.angelfire.com/WWECLASSICS.com.txt)

I haven't figured out how to set it up with clickable links though.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: alkeiper on February 22, 2010, 11:48:05 AM
Matches from ECW Legacy:

-Danny Doring, Roadkill and Miss Congeniality (Lita) vs. Chris Chetti, Nova and Jazz

-Tommy Dreamer and Beulah vs. Shane Douglas and Francine

-Bill Alfonso vs. Beulah.  (Officially Alfonso/RVD vs. Beulah/Dreamer)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on February 23, 2010, 01:40:00 AM
I set up this POS page in case TOTSM goes belly up for real

http://mm831.angelfire.com/WWECLASSICS.com.txt (http://mm831.angelfire.com/WWECLASSICS.com.txt)

I haven't figured out how to set it up with clickable links though.

I always copy them to play in WMP anyway so that's fine.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: JHawk on February 25, 2010, 02:14:12 AM
It says on the website as well that the following shows were televised but I'm pretty certain that's a mistake mainly because no footage has appeared from these before to my knowledge:

2/18/80
6/16/80
7/20/81
8/24/81
2/15/82
4/26/82
8/2/82
10/4/82
12/28/82 (I know this has aired on 24/7 etc.)


Several shows from the late 70's listed as televised I'm pretty sure weren't either
A little late to respond I know, but I have a copy of the 6/28/1982 MSG show and, in hyping the 8/2/1982 show, Vince McMahon clearly says the card will not be televised.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on February 26, 2010, 03:55:04 AM
Secret early update for Monday:

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/March_FullPPV_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/March_FullPPV_750.wmv) (WrestleMania 1)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/March_Raw120_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/March_Raw120_750.wmv) (Raw 7/17/95)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/March_Challenge88_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/March_Challenge88_750.wmv) (Challenge 5/8/88)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/March_FunkJYD_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/March_FunkJYD_750.wmv) (Terry Funk vs. Junkyard Dog - Boston Garden 10/12/85)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/March_BulldogsDT_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/March_BulldogsDT_750.wmv) (Dream Team vs. British Bulldogs - Boston Garden 10/12/85)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/March_SavageSteamboat_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/March_SavageSteamboat_750.wmv) (Randy Savage vs. Ricky Steamboat - Boston Garden 12/7/85)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/March_AdamsKevin_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/March_AdamsKevin_750.wmv) (Chris Adams vs. Kevin Von Erich)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/March_WarSettle_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/March_WarSettle_750.wmv) (Hulk Hogan vs. Roddy Piper - War To Settle The Score 2/18/85)


EDIT - The JYD/Funk match is already in the archives so I have no idea why they've uploaded the same match again
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on February 26, 2010, 07:43:42 AM
Good finds Landy. I was trying to use Mar and mar, kudos on BulldogsDT and WarSettle. You're a modern day Paul Ellering, a wizard of the web.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on February 26, 2010, 10:22:32 AM
It's obviously not a surprise these had to be edited out but my favourite parts of Mania 1 are the "Easy Lover" intro (which in the DVD/Legacy version you can't even hear Vince run down the card with the dubbed music) and the closing credits with Axel F.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on February 26, 2010, 11:16:05 AM
I had no idea WrestleMania was so short at only 132 minutes. I had the Collection version and it was about 150 minutes, of course that version had more Intermission hooplah I'm guessing.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on February 26, 2010, 04:37:42 PM
Even the uncut tape I have from the VHS collection is really brisk and just over 2 hours, but it's worth noting that this version just cuts Richter's entrance and victory party out all together instead of dubbing music in, losing even more minutes.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on February 27, 2010, 12:07:22 AM
Speaking of the Collection, does anyone have a YouTube/DailyMotion link that has the commercial for the Collection? It would have aired on Raw in late 1997.

I remember seeing the commercial for the 1st time thinking they were hocking a magazine at first and when they showed all 13 WrestleManias for just $79.99, I made it a priority to find an envelope and a stamp the next day and beg my mom to write the check (yes, I had the cash to cover it). In the heyday of Coliseum Videos where ppv tapes would be $30-40, the idea of getting each WM for $6.15 felt like a steal. Yeah, they play in shitty EP but then there was all the stuff on the tapes that didn't make the cut on CV.

Just a glorious day in my 15 year old life when it showed up in the mail.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on February 27, 2010, 01:58:22 AM
$80? Huh. I got it for Christmas in 1998 and I'm sure my mom paid $150 or more for it from a video store... which in 1998 wrestling tape money was still pretty good.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on February 27, 2010, 02:01:48 AM
Was it the Collection or the Legacy? I don't think they ever sold the Collection in stores.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on February 27, 2010, 02:06:17 AM
They didn't as far as I know, but this was one of the area stores that still had a good selection of old (and new for the time) WWF tapes so I guess they ordered a few sets and had them as a special box set in a "showcase" area of the store. I bought Final Four and Revenge of the Taker from them when they went out of business.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on February 27, 2010, 02:07:39 AM
Final Four was probably one of the most underrated WWF ppvs of all time. Plus, the interviews from the Free for All on the CV make it even better.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on March 02, 2010, 07:33:08 PM
The new Legacy of IC Title episode is up, nothing else for next week appears to be yet though

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/March_IC33_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/March_IC33_750.wmv)

Matches are:
Santana vs. Valentine (MSG 1/21/85)
Valentine vs. JYD (Boston 5/18/85)
Santana vs. Ventura (Toronto 9/22/85)
Santana vs. Savage (Puerto Rico 10/19/85)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on March 03, 2010, 04:49:05 AM
Good catch, I tried that link about 24 hours ago to no results. When I get home, I hope to find some more.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on March 05, 2010, 08:08:40 PM
They finally uploaded the rest of next weeks videos

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/March_superstars264_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/March_superstars264_750.wmv) (Superstars 9/21/91)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/March_elizabeth_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/March_elizabeth_750.wmv) (Randy Savage vs. Jim Young - Championship Wrestling 8/24/85)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/March_dustyflair_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/March_dustyflair_750.wmv) (Dusty Rhodes vs. Ric Flair - Starrcade 85)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/March_piperspit_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/March_piperspit_750.wmv) (Piper's Pit with Mr. T on A-Team set - Championship Wrestling 2/16/85)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/March_roadwarriors_freebirds_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/March_roadwarriors_freebirds_750.wmv) (Road Warriors vs. Freebirds - Superclash)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on March 06, 2010, 12:53:45 AM
Thanks for the finds. So with those videos added to the archive, it brings the total up to 1,200. I think I'm going to wake the neighbors and tell them the good news.

That said, with all the CoD Old School cards I've been downloading off torrent sites, I haven't even started the February videos yet. Not that I'm in a major hurry to do so but whatever.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on March 06, 2010, 05:13:37 AM
Thanks for Superstars - I like my Saturday fix!

I'm only 3.5 minutes in but it sounds like it's going to be a noteworthy show - the in-ring debut of Sid, Ric Flair in the Funeral Parlour, and an interview from Savage's home addressing how he destroyed Jack Tunney's office.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on March 08, 2010, 03:33:19 AM
Unless I'm blind, they screwed up and/or changed their official upload this week. They put up the IC Legacy, Superstars, Rhodes vs. Flair, and Liz's debut but not Warriors vs. Freebirds or Piper on set. They DID put up a cage match between Hogan and Muraco though - I want to see that.

Announced for next week: Bret vs. Dynamite, Flair vs. Kerry Von Erich, and Savage's WWE debut.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on March 08, 2010, 06:50:59 AM
After seeing the Von Erich vs Flair 2/3 fall match from 8/82, I heartily endorse more Tornado vs Naitch matches.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on March 08, 2010, 08:47:21 AM
The two things I said were missing are there now, so all is well.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on March 08, 2010, 08:49:33 AM
Yeah, I had to give the page a good ol Refresh. Also, a Midnights squash was thrown on the page as well.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on March 08, 2010, 08:52:23 AM
I just realized that the next episode of Superstars is the "Piper swings a chair at Flair and nails Vince" episode. Damn you once every two weeks policy!
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on March 12, 2010, 06:04:18 AM
They've updated early again but struggling to find much (unless they haven't uploaded everything yet)

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/March_Challenge89_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/March_Challenge89_750.wmv) (Wrestling Challenge 5/15/88)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/march_savage_debut_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/march_savage_debut_750.wmv) (Randy Savage vs. Aldo Marino Championship Wrestling 7/6/85)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on March 12, 2010, 08:54:30 AM
Tried finding Raw w/ no luck. Even tried it with 032010 but as Shane McMahon would say in WWF Attitude "No dice!"
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: alkeiper on March 12, 2010, 01:50:15 PM
After seeing the Von Erich vs Flair 2/3 fall match from 8/82, I heartily endorse more Tornado vs Naitch matches.
I think that's pretty well thought to be their best outing.  Fantastic match really.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on March 16, 2010, 10:57:44 AM
Classics.com pretty much gave away that Nitro was going to become a regular show whenever they add their "4th show" (they mentioned they couldn't show an extra Raw as originally planned this month as it would throw things 'out of sync' for their promo plans). MillenniumMan pointed this out and was told they have a "pretty good alternative" plan B is things don't go through on "whatever people are suspecting".
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: TheSSNintendo on March 16, 2010, 12:02:08 PM
How would Nitro be the 4th show, when it's already on WWE Classics on Demand?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on March 16, 2010, 12:03:47 PM
It's far enough along now, even in "The Beginning", that they couldn't possibly catch-up with their twice a month schedule (same as CoD, actually). Ditto for when Raw hits September on their service.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on March 16, 2010, 12:27:40 PM
I'm kind of pulling for Plan B myself. I'm just not that excited for Nitro. Maybe Mongo talking about digging up sand in your brother in law's backyard or whatever has me poo pooing it. But whatever the reason, I'd rather have AWA/Sat Night/Pro/Worldwide/All American/ect.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: DMann1979 on March 16, 2010, 01:35:12 PM
Is the reason the don't do earlier Superstars because of Jesse's presence?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on March 16, 2010, 01:36:24 PM
"Superstars of Wrestling" banner presence. I like it this way better to be honest; you have a show from the 80s, a show from the early 90s, and a show from the mid 90s right now.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on March 19, 2010, 06:20:21 AM
Early update with the new Superstars I know a lot of people will want to see again

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/march_superstars265_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/march_superstars265_750.wmv) (Superstars 9/28/91)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/march_luger_debut_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/march_luger_debut_750.wmv) (Lex Luger CWF Debut)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/march_andre_bundy_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/march_andre_bundy_750.wmv) (Andre the Giant vs. King Kong Bundy - MSG 9/23/85)

That's all I've found so far
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on March 19, 2010, 09:05:46 AM
Good stuff. You have a sixth sense for this stuff. I really don't know the date of the Luger/Lee match but I dated it as 9/21/85 since the closest info I can get for Luger's debut is September 85.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on March 20, 2010, 12:17:42 AM
Vince McMahon keeps saying "belt" in reference to the IC title. What's next, calling a competitor a wrestler?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on March 20, 2010, 01:40:27 AM
Maybe that's the REAL reason they dub out Superstars of __________ .
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on March 20, 2010, 05:52:48 AM
They've added Introducing with Ricky Steamboat (this link definitely was NOT working when I tried yesterday)

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/march_intro_steamboat_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/march_intro_steamboat_750.wmv)

I'll edit this post if I find the other previewed match
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on March 22, 2010, 03:26:16 AM
Any surprise gems this week or just the standard 4 minute vids?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on March 22, 2010, 03:39:12 AM
They've put up Briscos vs Adonis/Murdoch from Spectrum Jan 85 (not as good as their MSG match but still good) And a Horseman 6-man tag from Worldwide
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on March 22, 2010, 03:41:42 AM
That doesn't sound bad at all. Too bad they didn't air (or did they?) that Briscoes MSG match on PTW in 85. It would have fooled the staff into thinking the match happened in 85 . . . sort of like how they posted the Adams/KVE match from Dec 84.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on March 29, 2010, 04:11:53 AM
Here's a preview for HOF month:

-Our full event is not a pay-per-view but rather a full live event from Madison Square Garden. If you've been following Wrestling Challenge then all of the biggest rivalries will be spotlighted in an event we're fairly certain hasn't re-aired since its original broadcast.
-Ted DiBiase defends the North American Heavyweight Championship on Championship Wrestling (preview tomorrow on "WWE Classic Moment of the Week".
-Ted DiBiase challenges Virgil for the Million Dollar Championship
-Ted DiBiase vs. Bret Hart for the Intercontinental Championship
-Ted DiBiase vs. Shawn Michaels from Primetime Wrestling
-Ted DiBiase vs. Randy Savage for the WWE Championsihp in Philadelphia

Then we have on week two classic Antonio Inoki matches including Antonio Inoki vs. Stan Hansen from Stampede Wrestling.

Week Three relive classic matches with Wendi Richter and Mad Dog Vachon including:
-Mad Dog Vachon vs. Nick Bockwinkel
-Mad Dog Vachon vs. Bobby Heenan
-Wendi Richter & Fabulous Moolah vs. Velvet McIntyre and Princess Victoria from 1982.

Week Four is a very special week as we're highlighting many of the Hart family members as they competed inside Stampede Wrestling including:
-Bruce Hart, Keith Hart & Owen Hart in action.
-Dynamite Kid vs. Davey Boy Smith
-And much much more!
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on March 29, 2010, 04:39:54 AM
- Ah shit, those Stampede matches are going to be hell to catalog.
- The Mad Dog matches sound like big buys.
- I wonder which MSG show they'll air. 5/88 or 6/88? 6/88 has the Savage/DiBiase match that's been released several times in which 5/88 has Savage breaking DiBiase's nose about a minute in.
- I'm down for some Cowgirl Wendi Richter. Especially with Velvet (no, not Skye) McIntyre (no, not Drew) mixed in there.
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Post by: Venkman on March 29, 2010, 04:43:01 AM
Is the Virgil/DiBiase match where Savage is the ref and does a big elbow to let Virgil win a Million Dollar Championship match? I kind of want to see that one again.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on March 29, 2010, 04:45:30 AM
It might be. I think that was from CV's Invasion 92. But it could also be when he won the title back thanks to Repo Man at the Survivor Series Showdown of 91. I'd also rather see Virgil retain myself.
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Post by: Venkman on March 29, 2010, 04:47:04 AM
I'm guessing it's the latter of the two since it's supposed to be profiling Ted. I haven't seen that match ever though, so, that's ok.
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Post by: landy1987 on April 05, 2010, 03:29:36 AM
Great update this week (looks like they've changed the link slightly which is why I wasn't able to find anything early this week).

The MSG shows is from 4/88 and the DiBiase-Virgil match is from Survivor Series Showdown. The Bret and Michaels matches with DiBiase are both real good as well if you've not seen them before
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Post by: alkeiper on April 05, 2010, 05:08:10 AM
Any time I get to see an MSG show in full, I'm happy.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on April 05, 2010, 11:35:04 AM
Your Universe comment was good for a laugh, al.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: alkeiper on April 06, 2010, 06:54:33 AM
Your Universe comment was good for a laugh, al.
About getting Mr. Belvidere episodes on the service?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on April 06, 2010, 09:54:53 PM
And Major League.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on April 09, 2010, 12:12:50 PM
They updated early. A legitimate update at that. SuperStars, IC Legacy, Inoki/Hansen, Inoki/Iron Sheik, Inoki/Regal, Inoki/Flair, & Uecker's interviews at WMIV were the vids.

Apparently, on Monday is a new WATN and Wednesday will be a Draft themed update w/ the 2008 and 2009 Draft Specials. Can't wait to see Tazz go ape when ECW gets raped in 2008.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on April 12, 2010, 04:42:26 AM
They put the Draft stuff up today.

- Draft Raw's from 2008/2009
- HHH gets drafted to SmackDown (2004)
- HHH vs. Eddie Guerrero (2004)
- Carlito vs. Shelton Benjamin (6/13/05)
- Undertaker vs. JBL (6/16/05)
- Cena debuts on Raw (6/6/05)
- Cena vs. Edge (6/11/07)

I totally forgot Draft 08 was Mr. McMahon's Million Dollar Mania! Is this the one where some dude is like, "NIGHT OF CHAMPIONS IS MY BIRTHDAY!"?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on April 12, 2010, 04:46:55 AM
I'll have to check out that Dreamer/Umaga match again since it features a Adamle/Foley announce team. Also, grumpy Tazz on the 2008 Draft show was pretty dandy.

Did they say anything about new WATN vids?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on April 12, 2010, 04:52:19 AM
Nothing mentioned about that yet. It's still listed as Molly.

First Vince lol - telling the first person he called she had the wrong password.

"THIS EPISODE OF RAW IS FROM 2008 - THE CONTEST IS OVER"
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Brodypedia on April 13, 2010, 06:16:32 PM
Quote
If any of you have a WWEClassics.com subscription, WHICH YOU SHOULD BTW, you should watch the latest edition of Superstars to see Virgil do a promo while reading crib notes off his hand. It's pretty lolsome.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on April 14, 2010, 12:11:44 AM
As usual I have no idea what you're quoting but...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/drvenkman21/VirgilNotes.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/drvenkman21/VirgilNotes2.jpg)

Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on April 14, 2010, 05:09:59 AM
I'd like to picture the quote being from JR's blog.

Those post-SummerSlam Superstars eps have been pretty rocking so far. Got through the Rochester tapings last night. I love how no one comes to the rescue of that little girl who got BULLIED by Busick and her popcorn dumped on her head.

And poor Kato.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Brodypedia on April 14, 2010, 05:13:56 AM
How long was Virgil's promo, like 30 seconds? 

"Dibiase I have what you want most, now you want to try and take it from me @___________ .  Well ain't happening!"

/Que Sean Mooney at desk
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on April 14, 2010, 05:51:51 AM
His promo was mostly focused on telling DiBiase about how the belt is full of fingerprints of the common man and child. It did seem at one point he had to go "I see the finger prints of *looks down* the pizza man" and what have you.

In fairness he may just be looking at his own fingers to get across the "common man touching the shiny belt" deal, but I like this "checking for notes" angle better.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on April 14, 2010, 08:43:32 AM
In a big fuck you to everyone, they updated WATN with 5 Warlord matches . . . couldn't they backtrack and put some WATN vids for Rick Martel next time?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on April 14, 2010, 08:48:43 AM
I'll have to read the article later to see if it mentions the Pizza Hut truck injury.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on April 15, 2010, 02:51:37 AM
A "secret" early update returns finally:

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/April2010_Raw123_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/April2010_Raw123_750.wmv) (Raw 8/7/95)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/April2010_Challenge91_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/April2010_Challenge92_750.wmv) (Challenge 6/5/88)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/April2010_maddog_heenan_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/April2010_maddog_heenan_750.wmv) (Mad Dog Vachon vs. Bobby Heenan)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/April2010_maddog_keane_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/April2010_maddog_keane_750.wmv) (Mad Dog Vachon vs. Lanny Keane - St. Louis 6/15/84)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/April2010_richter_moolah_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/April2010_richter_moolah_750.wmv) (Wendi Richter vs. Fabulous Moolah - Saturday Night's Main Event 5/11/85)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/April2010_richter_moolah_tag_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/April2010_richter_moolah_tag_750.wmv) (Wendi Richter & Fabulous Moolah vs. Velvet McIntyre & Princess Victoria - MSG 3/14/82)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/April2010_introducing_austin_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/April2010_introducing_austin_750.wmv) (Introducing - Steve Austin - The Ringmaster vs. Steve Austin - Raw 1/15/96)

I just can't find what they said was Wendi Richter appearing on WWE's World Championship Wrestling show (I would presume from 3/9/85 vs. Donna Christiantello)

Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on April 15, 2010, 06:47:50 AM
Thanks as always for the links Landy. I just tried the Raw one last night with no luck.

Can't say I'd have ever stumbled into maddog_keane
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on April 15, 2010, 07:40:46 AM
I found the other link:

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/April2010_richter_martin_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/April2010_richter_martin_750.wmv) (Wendi Richter vs. Judy Martin - World Championship Wrestling 12/15/84)

It's just a match from Poughkeepsie aired on the TBS show, I was thinking from their description it would be the match from one of the shows in the TBS studios. So unless there's another Mad Dog match then I think that's it for next week's update

EDIT - one more!

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/April2010_maddog_bockwinkel_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/April2010_maddog_bockwinkel_750.wmv) (Mad Dog Vachon vs. Nick Bockwinkel)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: DMann1979 on April 15, 2010, 02:31:24 PM
I'm watching the latest Wrestling Challenge, featuring a match during Bret's initial aborted singles push.  So Bret finishes the match with a piledriver (ugly one too).  Was that supposed to be his finisher at the time?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on April 15, 2010, 10:51:38 PM
I remember having Bret Hart's 1989 trading card and IIRC, the piledriver was his listed finisher. The sharpshooter was introduced after the Harts split in 91.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on April 16, 2010, 08:54:02 AM
Coming up in May:

Quote
A few months ago there was a WWE Universe post by Lance Storm asking why Chris Jericho doesn't have a DVD yet. That question gave us the idea to put together an entire month featuring the greatest Chris Jericho matches.

We're showing his entire career including:
-ECW Legacy dedicated to Jericho.
-Introducing spotlighting SMW, ECW, WCW and WWE.
-Rarely seen vignettes of the Thrillseekers.
-Chris Jericho vs. : Nick Patrick, Juventud Guerrera, Ultimo Dragon, Dean Malenko, Alex Wright, Eddie Guerrero, William Regal, The Rock, "Stone Cold" Steve Austin, Edge, Rob Van Dam, Christian, John Cena, Batista and Rey Mysterio.

 :)
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Post by: DMann1979 on April 16, 2010, 09:01:45 AM
Coming up in May:

Quote
A few months ago there was a WWE Universe post by Lance Storm asking why Chris Jericho doesn't have a DVD yet. That question gave us the idea to put together an entire month featuring the greatest Chris Jericho matches.

We're showing his entire career including:
-ECW Legacy dedicated to Jericho.
-Introducing spotlighting SMW, ECW, WCW and WWE.
-Rarely seen vignettes of the Thrillseekers.
-Chris Jericho vs. : Nick Patrick, Juventud Guerrera, Ultimo Dragon, Dean Malenko, Alex Wright, Eddie Guerrero, William Regal, The Rock, "Stone Cold" Steve Austin, Edge, Rob Van Dam, Christian, John Cena, Batista and Rey Mysterio.

 :)

Don't ask us about that "other" Canadian he wrestled alot though....
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on April 16, 2010, 09:31:08 AM
I went to The Board to thank Lance.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on April 16, 2010, 10:03:54 AM
I hope there is ample footage of 1998-99 WCW wiseass Jericho. His stuff with JJ Dillon was incredible.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: TheSSNintendo on April 16, 2010, 10:24:31 AM
Stinko Malenko!
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: DMann1979 on April 16, 2010, 11:03:39 AM
Say it with me everyone

Number 246...
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on April 23, 2010, 06:20:42 AM
Any secret link to Superstars? I tried but nothing worked for me. I'd like to watch some El Diablo this weekend.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on April 23, 2010, 08:08:57 AM
Any secret link to Superstars? I tried but nothing worked for me. I'd like to watch some El Diablo this weekend.

Looks like they've just added it! :)

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/April2010_superstars268_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/April2010_superstars268_750.wmv)

I'll see what else I can find unless there doing a "real" update tonight anyway

EDIT - just spent 10 minutes trying out links and found these also:

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/April2010_ecwleg_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/April2010_ecwleg_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/April2010_Bulldogs_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/April2010_Bulldogs_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/April2010_Neidhart_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/April2010_Neidhart_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/April2010_BruceHart_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/April2010_BruceHart_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/April2010_KeithHart_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/April2010_KeithHart_750.wmv)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on April 24, 2010, 01:44:34 AM
Good catches. I hope they put halfway accurate dates to those Stampede matches and don't just mark them as April 1, 2010.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on April 24, 2010, 02:42:06 AM
It seemed a bit odd that the "Update" showed a graphic for the 8-man elimination main event for Survivor Series but didn't acknowledge it and just moved right on to Hogan/Taker.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on April 24, 2010, 03:07:34 AM
It seemed a bit odd that the "Update" showed a graphic for the 8-man elimination main event for Survivor Series but didn't acknowledge it and just moved right on to Hogan/Taker.

By the looks of it, the segment was edited because of the music playing in the background. You'll see what I mean if you watch the segment in here from the original airing:
Superstars of Wrestling 19.10.91 1 (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8o51l)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on April 24, 2010, 03:09:06 AM
Yeah I figured by the pacing of it all there must have been an edit. Thanks!

Speaking of music, I'm trying to figure out if there is an issue with the El Matador theme. It is clearly heard in the Tito segment but they're also playing other music over it.

Also, that is one big cobra that Jake has this week in the Sid angle.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on April 24, 2010, 10:50:17 AM
Per Classics, there will be a PPV added this Monday.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on April 26, 2010, 02:58:18 AM
And it's EXTREME. Rules 2009, that is.

They also found another Owen Hart WCW match (all 2 minutes of it).
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 03, 2010, 06:23:45 AM
Any gems on this week's update?

I was watching the last set of Challenge tapings and I had quite a chuckle out of Okerlund pimping out his own LJN dolls.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on May 03, 2010, 06:33:37 AM
They said on their forum that they're having problems with some of the videos but will be there all day and night to get them working.

I found the new ECW Legacy though if anyone wants to watch something:

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/May2010_ecwlegacy_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092009/May2010_ecwlegacy_750.wmv)

They also have the new Challenge episode up but only in 300k at the moment. Mean Gene does a new pre-recorded intro at the beginning of the show from the 2010 Event Center (if you saw the 100th Vintage Collection episode over the weekend then you know what I mean)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on May 03, 2010, 06:45:05 AM
I assume Gene is doing the new Superstars intro too. I guess we'll find out next week and/or in a few days.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 03, 2010, 06:52:42 AM
I would love to see if we find out anything about "Carolyn" one of these weeks.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on May 03, 2010, 09:53:12 AM
No Mercy 2008 - Full Event
October 5, 2008   |   Approx. run time: 164 mins.
Owen Hart spent a very short time in WCW but WWEClassics.com discovered another one of his bouts. Watch as Owen impresses the WCW fans.

Next week:
-Chris Jericho's famous "1004 Hold's" list
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on May 03, 2010, 10:11:43 AM
Are those supposed to be ring rats or prostitutes at the end of the first Thrillseekers training montage?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 03, 2010, 10:31:38 AM
*Paging Landy*

Have you been able to get the backdoor links to work because I haven't. Even the ECW Legacy one is only a minute long via the shady link.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 03, 2010, 10:43:35 AM
nevermind . . . they got sneaky and changed the 092009 to 052010 and added the drm- to the beginning of the filenames.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on May 10, 2010, 08:37:37 AM
WCW Nitro - Chris Jericho and his 1,004 holds!
March 29, 1998   |   Approx. run time: 7 mins.
This is one of the funniest moments in WCW history (intentionally funny, that is)

Lol.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 10, 2010, 08:40:49 AM
Haven't seen WWE's editing of the clip yet but I love how WCW kept cutting his mic in and out as to not talk over the music or pyro.

And I once again have access to classics from work. Hoooray!
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on May 10, 2010, 08:45:47 AM
I loved how WCW shot off tons of pyro every hour on the hour no matter what for Nitro.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on May 10, 2010, 08:46:07 AM
His music should be fine (the Pearl Jam Evenflow rip-off is fine on CoD) but you never really know. But you said other guys music.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: DMann1979 on May 10, 2010, 11:08:51 AM
The Evenflow ripoff is INTACT...Didn't know Jannetty used the old Hollywood Blondes theme though
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on May 10, 2010, 11:14:46 AM
Several wrestlers did.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 12, 2010, 03:42:00 AM
New WATN videos of JJ Dillon:
http://www.wwe.com/subscriptions/wweclassics/watn/ (http://www.wwe.com/subscriptions/wweclassics/watn/)

They sure did throw away the policy of not posting matches with no commentary out in a hurry.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on May 12, 2010, 09:57:01 AM
In the spirit of being mean-spirited, can some show the fine folks at WWEClassics this infringement of copyright?

http://www.therealbuff.com/video_sales.html# (http://www.therealbuff.com/video_sales.html#)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 12, 2010, 10:39:42 AM
You can tell by the way his archives are out of order that Buff takes a lot of pride in his bootlegs. I'm guessing he just uses a stamp of his signature to sign the cases.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: JHawk on May 12, 2010, 03:47:06 PM
I guess he could have taped them himself with a camcorder and is selling his personal copies, but I doubt Buff's smart enough to think of that.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: FroGG_NeaLL on May 12, 2010, 05:23:29 PM
Oh man, check out his latest news on the main page.

Spoiler: show
Hi Guy!!
 :D
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 13, 2010, 08:43:24 AM
I guess he could have taped them himself with a camcorder and is selling his personal copies, but I doubt Buff's smart enough to think of that.

My Buff isn't clever enough to hatch a scheme like this.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on May 14, 2010, 07:04:33 AM
They've started a secret early update again (or may just have an early update later today), this is what I've found so far:

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052010/drm-May2010_Raw125_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052010/drm-May2010_Raw125_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052010/drm-May2010_Challenge94_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052010/drm-May2010_Challenge94_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052010/drm-May2010_Intro_Jericho_WWE_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052010/drm-May2010_Intro_Jericho_WWE_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052010/drm-May2010_Jericho_Eddie_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052010/drm-May2010_Jericho_Eddie_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052010/drm-May2010_Jericho_Edge_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052010/drm-May2010_Jericho_Edge_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052010/drm-May2010_Jericho_Rock_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052010/drm-May2010_Jericho_Rock_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052010/drm-May2010_Jericho_Austin_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052010/drm-May2010_Jericho_Austin_750.wmv)

And a preview for upcoming months. Maybe they won't be adding Nitro after all?

Quote
Upcoming themes for WWEClassics.com:

-June - Tag Team Month - We'll have an exclusive interview with the Hart Dynasty
-July - Canadian Superstar Month - We might get an exclusive interview with Damon Stryker for Introducing. We're not sure if you've heard of him.
-August - Greatest Rivalries Relived - It was a popular theme a year ago so we'll do it again!
-September - Championship Classics
-October - Southern Hospitality Month - Looking at the NWA, Championship Wrestling from Florida, WCCW, Georgia Championship Wrestling, Mid-Atlantic Wrestling and more.

We might have an AWA month or Texas based month as well.

Oh and our fourth series in June...don't assume anything. It might be what you're thinking but we have a strong feeling it's not.  And in July, we have a new series debuting. Our only hint is that you've never seen it but you'll learn all about it.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 14, 2010, 09:11:25 AM
Thanks for the links.

Yay potentially no Nitro.

I'm hoping for an AWA month but I got a feeling they'll go with Texas month since they can overload on matches involving Austin, Funk, & Michaels.

I'm sure Vince is just gushing over the thought of having a Southern Rasslin Month. Glad he has no idea this service exists.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Slickster on May 14, 2010, 07:05:08 PM
Could the mystery series be Smoky Mountain Wrestling or UPW?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 15, 2010, 12:57:11 AM
Could be. I think if they're not allowed to air Nitro, they want to find a show which they can track down all the episodes for.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on May 15, 2010, 01:01:09 AM
How could we possibly guess what WWEClassics.com original series they'd produce? Of course we haven't heard of it and of course we'll know what it is when it debuts.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 15, 2010, 01:07:47 AM
Michael Cole's Vintage Pick of the Month
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on May 15, 2010, 01:41:19 AM
Bold prediction: The new June show will be TNT since it has not aired in CoD in quite some time now.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on May 15, 2010, 07:00:58 AM
If they're going to air a WWE show, the only show I'd like them to show is something like All American Wrestling which began in the Summer of 83 so it's an era of WWE not currently on the service. Even better would be a 1970s WWWF Tv show but I'm thinking they won't have every episode still
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 19, 2010, 07:19:34 AM
From one of the many retards on the wweclassics board
Quote
u guys ever think about putting the whole library online?


And the response from Double Double E
Quote
Considering we have to watch every second of video before it goes up, that would be nearly impossible.

Awwwwww man.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Slickster on May 19, 2010, 09:13:31 AM
If you played the entire WWE library nonstop 24/7 with no repeats it would take about 13 years.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 21, 2010, 10:57:44 AM
The latest in the Will There be Nitro saga was posted by WWEClassics today

Quote
WCW Nitro is exclusive to WWE Classics on Demand TV service. That will not be changing anytime soon.

Thank You
-WWEClassics.com

So unless we have a swerve, it looks like it'll be either All American Wrestling or TNT.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on May 21, 2010, 01:35:14 PM
Seemed odd to say that when the previous statement in the "What's coming in June?" theories basically said "It's not Nitro".
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on May 25, 2010, 08:50:38 AM
Quote
Going forward we will not be able to answer questions for you on WWE Universe.

We promise to continue reading your messages on WWE Universe about any problems/concerns/suggestions.

Thank You
-WWEClassics.com
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 26, 2010, 12:15:58 AM
I bet the crew has been begging Joey to post that message for a while now. Hopefully, we'll still get the weekly previews but I guess it wouldn't do any good asking.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: JHawk on May 26, 2010, 02:12:09 PM
Went to the 1980 page and for some reason the Backlund-Duncum Philly match and the Backlund-Race unification match aren't on it.  They're not starting to delete shit from the servers, are they?  I might cancel the service when the annual runs out in September if they do too much of that.

EDIT:  Bruno-Zbyszko is gone too.  Thank God we have those archives stored for those matches.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on May 26, 2010, 07:51:34 PM
All the Raw shows from 1993 and 1994 are gone as well. I presume this is because of the DVD set coming out soon?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 26, 2010, 10:53:08 PM
Yikes, they sure did clean those out. I did a spot check on a 94 ep and it appears they're not off the server, just off the page.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on May 26, 2010, 11:27:05 PM
Have they ever removed any videos off the server? I still have an old 300k link saved from 2004 of the uncut Michaels-Jannetty match from July 93 which still works (where they show what went on during the commercial breaks)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 27, 2010, 01:15:29 AM
The only one I can think of is the Demolition vs Andre/Baba match but I think that was more of a technical glitch than moving it off the server.

The ultimate test would be if the Benoit/HHH match from Vengeance 2004 still works. I wish they could dub Benoit mentions off commentary and upconvert the Smackdown Rumble from 2004.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on May 27, 2010, 01:35:05 AM
This would explain why they suddenly can't answer questions anymore. The Raw thing is puzzling because, last I heard, the Blu Ray set that was going to have every 1993 episode was cancelled and a standard "best of" DVD was coming out.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 27, 2010, 03:50:14 AM
Wouldn't they have to unflatteringly stretch the screen for Blu Rays of 1993 and 94 Raws?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on May 27, 2010, 05:11:35 AM
No, I imagine it would be up to the user to adjust their TV for the correct ratio (just like a DVD) or if Blu Ray's auto correct themselves, then it would be that. The idea is that BR has more storage space and thus you could put 50 episodes of Raw on a reasonable amount of discs. A standard DVD release of a year of Raw would have to be split into volumes and/or be released in a several disc set.

Worth noting: Personality pages still contain links some of the 93/94 Raws.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 27, 2010, 10:45:54 PM
Ah ok. My technology prowess leaves a lot to be desired.

I see the service finally cracked 'Anthony'. The guy who would bust the balls of everyone who complained or hell even enjoyed the service is now pissed the Raws are gone. Makes it all worth it to me . . . since ya know, we still have the links.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on May 28, 2010, 11:59:01 PM
At least they're still doing secret early updates:

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062010/drm-June2010_Raw126_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062010/drm-June2010_Raw126_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062010/drm-June2010_ecwleg_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062010/drm-June2010_ecwleg_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062010/drm-June2010_rockers_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062010/drm-June2010_rockers_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062010/drm-June2010_rocknsock_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062010/drm-June2010_rocknsock_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062010/drm-June2010_hollywoodblondes_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062010/drm-June2010_hollywoodblondes_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062010/drm-June2010_hartfoundation_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062010/drm-June2010_hartfoundation_750.wmv)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 29, 2010, 12:58:34 AM
Thanks as always for the links.

I'm glad to see the Strike Force vs Hart Foundation MSG rematch uploaded. I was always intrigued by the match since I saw a bunch of clips of it on the WWF VCR WrestleMania Game when I was a kid. I remember being particularly wowed by Bret's late-match plunge into the barricade.

I wonder if Styles is aware of just how many of the same matches get recycled month after month on ECW Legacy.

Christ, does Lillian sound awkward during her intro of Taker/Show.

This month's ppv is Starrcade 1992:
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062010/drm-June2010_FullPPV_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062010/drm-June2010_FullPPV_750.wmv)

Sad to see Josh Mathews's nose bleed edited off of the 2009 Draft show.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on May 31, 2010, 04:29:04 AM
WCW Saturday Night is the new weekly TV show - starting with the 9/16/95 episode. I believe this episode was never aired in full originally either, and was aired joined in progress because of TBS programming that went too long
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 31, 2010, 07:46:50 AM
That should appease many from their board since the consensus was that they didn't want WWF/E material. I was just happy it wasn't Nitro. Editing off Benoit will probably be a bitch for their team but hopefully they just get lazy.

And it looks like Landy's find of this month's ECW Legacy may not see the light of day as it appears they took down the entire ECW Legacy page. I guess the brass didn't care much for a show dedicated to Taz . . . or the one for RVD.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on May 31, 2010, 09:45:23 AM
The no blood policy must be in effect again I'm guessing which is why there's no more ECW Legacy show, and matces like Valentine/Strongbow, Race/Backlund, Race/Duncum, Bruno/Zbyszko have all being taken down. Even stuff like Savage/Flair from WM8 and Austin/Bret has been removed from the "Timeline" sections, but these are still in the individual superstars sections so I'm guess they just haven't updated those pages yet.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 31, 2010, 10:32:11 AM
So I take it we will never see Steve Corino month on ECW Legacy.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on May 31, 2010, 10:53:30 AM
I had heard that the theory was blood removal for the old match removals but I commented if that was true, they were doing a bad job (since, when I looked, things like Austin/Hart and Batista/HHH from Vengeance 2005 were in the timeline, plus all the ECW Legacy episodes). This saddens me that they are continuing to find and remove.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: alkeiper on June 01, 2010, 02:40:07 PM
That Blondes vs. Steamboat/Douglas match was entertaining as hell.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on June 02, 2010, 01:35:18 AM
Funny note on the idea that it's blood matches being removed: CoD just put up Bash 2004 (it's a "Buried Treasure" due to the concrete crypt, you see) with JBL bleeding all over the place. I wonder if that means in 3 months, they'll be back to putting a B&W filter on matches (they stopped when Classics.com announced they didn't have to do that anymore).
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on June 02, 2010, 03:52:47 AM
Just for kicks, I went to the 1992 page and the 1st video listed is War Games.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on June 02, 2010, 03:58:24 AM
Early update! Let's play around with some tag team names and see what we can find seen as though we have no preview.

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062010/drm-June2010_Superstars271_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062010/drm-June2010_Superstars271_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062010/drm-June2010_Challenge95_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062010/drm-June2010_Challenge95_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062010/drm-June2010_IC36_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062010/drm-June2010_IC36_750.wmv)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on June 02, 2010, 04:51:55 AM
The Eliminators vs Sabu & Mikey Whipwreck . . . http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062010/drm-June2010_eliminators_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062010/drm-June2010_eliminators_750.wmv)

FWIW, it looks like I'm going to have to stop updating the archive on the TOTSM since the post is now too big. It'll still be updated here . . . http://mm831.angelfire.com/WWECLASSICS.com.txt (http://mm831.angelfire.com/WWECLASSICS.com.txt)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on June 02, 2010, 05:29:45 AM
Just for kicks, I went to the 1992 page and the 1st video listed is War Games.

This was actually the default match I was checking for when the blood theory came up. Looking for Austin/Bret crossed my mind later.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on June 04, 2010, 02:05:44 AM
WWE.com redesigned their page to get rid of sidebars... which kind of sucks for easy navigation on Classics.com.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on June 07, 2010, 01:32:41 PM
Can't believe I beat Landy to this, but here's WCW Saturday Night a week early. Haven't been able to sniff out Raw yet though.

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062010/drm-June2010_WCWSN1281_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062010/drm-June2010_WCWSN1281_750.wmv)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on June 11, 2010, 08:20:48 AM
Without the fanfare of the WWE board going up and arms anymore, Classics has made an early update to their page.

Looks like they uploaded two different versions of Saturday Night. Not sure if it's a tech issue or there was a Benoit slip that needed to be lopped off.
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062010/drm-June2010_WCWSN1281_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062010/drm-June2010_WCWSN1281_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062010/drm-June2010_WCWSN1281_USE_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062010/drm-June2010_WCWSN1281_USE_750.wmv)

Pretty much your standard fare this week with the highlight probably being the Freebirds MSG match in '84 against luminaries like Butcher Vachon, Ron Shaw, and The DUKE OF DORCHESTER Pete Doherty.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on June 11, 2010, 10:46:11 AM
I guess WATN no longer gets matches with the sidebar gone.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on June 13, 2010, 02:13:33 AM
I'm hoping (not expecting) that due to the early regular update, that they'll upload a few Headbanger matches on Monday and put them in a WATN subsection under the New This Month page . . . same as "June Exclusive", "Full Length Episodes", ect.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on June 16, 2010, 09:38:46 AM
Here's some early Challenge/SuperStars . . .

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062010/drm-June2010_Challenge96_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062010/drm-June2010_Challenge96_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062010/drm-June2010_Superstars272_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062010/drm-June2010_Superstars272_750.wmv)

Haven't been able to find anything else. Without previews, it's easy to give up quickly.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on June 17, 2010, 04:31:41 AM
Marty Jannetty appears to have shown up in no condition to perform.

Sean Mooney: "It appears the Big Bossman is a guardian angel for Greg 'The Hammer' Valentine" - that made me laugh.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on June 18, 2010, 07:42:50 AM
They've updated the WWE.com page. There's a fun Hart Foundation-Bulldogs match and a special called "Strange and Unusal Tag Teams" which I'm about to watch
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on June 18, 2010, 08:46:29 AM
Looks like the Steiners/Birds link is dead.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on June 18, 2010, 09:58:55 AM
Just let the produc... oh, right.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on June 19, 2010, 07:44:39 AM
Look at the Superstars picture I posted in the pictures thread from the early link, then look at the one they used as the preview image. I know it's a coincidence, but it's not the first time it's happened.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on June 25, 2010, 03:02:01 AM
Boy, what a letdown that 11/2/91 ep of SuperStars had to be for a single-digit year old mark without cable. You go in expecting TWO feature matches. The first one lasts about 30 seconds (Sid/Mustafa) and the 2nd one never starts (Hart/Mountie).

And poor Tanaka getting a full fledged jobber intro the week before against Piper. At least a week later on Challenge he got the half-assed superstar entrance where they came back from break as he was entering the ring to about 5 seconds of his music.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on June 26, 2010, 10:39:51 AM
Well, WWECLASSICS is back on the forum.

I'm quite leery that they will be heading towards Flash. If that happens, the archive could become useless. Big sadness there.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: WKU Tops on June 26, 2010, 01:34:09 PM
Is WWE Classics on demand worth the money?  Insight offers it for an additional $9 a month and I'm thinking about getting it.  Just want to know what some of you on the board think about the service.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on June 28, 2010, 04:14:33 AM
I like it and often talk about it in the thread dedicated to it.

ECW Legacy is back today... sort of. It's the Jericho episode from May, a "special re-airing" which on this service used to make no sense, but kind of makes a lot of sense these days.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on June 28, 2010, 04:51:00 AM
I perused the forums and while I'm not 100% convinced there isn't some degree of backpedaling with the answers given, I am happy WWEClassics.com is back. For those interested in the service but not interested enough to check out the forums for it, here's the haps:

Quote from: WWEClassics.com Guy
Hello everyone, we are back on WWE Universe thankfully! The last 4 weeks were tough because we love to chat with you guys.

Yes, we know we had a bit of a programming change and that was NOT why we were not chatting on the forum. The fact is, we had some tech issues with the service and simply could not speak about them.

That being said, we are back on here. And those tech issues will hopefully come into affect sooner than later. When everything goes full throttle, WWEClassics.com will be an even more enticing site for everyone. We got approval to increase the amount of videos we offer each month hopefully starting in November (if not sooner).

Now I know there are questions and we'll answer the biggest ones:

1) '93 and '94 Raw's: Yes we had to remove every episode. WWE Home Video is releasing a "Best of Set" for 1993 and 1994 Raw's later this year. It's going to be an incredible DVD that everyone will want as part of their WWE Home Video Library. We saw a rough cut of the DVD and it's a really fun set. We truly recommend the DVD's.
2) ECW Legacy - Yes we removed the episodes. They WILL return. W e had to make a minor edit on the open and thus we needed to pull down the show. Starting in July we will have episodes re-airing. We will call them "encore" episodes. But don't worry, we still have at least 3 new episodesto air in upcoming months. Do you guys have any ideas for themes of new episodes? We promise, every new idea for an episode of ECW Legacy will be suggested to Joey Styles (who by the way loves WWEClassics.com and every day helps makes it a better service).
3) Don't forget to check our Hall of Fame sction on WWEClassics.com. We have so many videos of Superstars such as Bret Hart, Ric Flair, Hulk Hogan, Jimmy Snuka, Dusty Rhodes and Ted DiBiase.
4) In July we're highlighting Canadian Superstars. It will be a really fun month we think you will all enjoy! Our full pay-per-view is an In Your House (not Canadian Stampede) and we think you will enjoy it.
5) We are looking into having a second season of "Generations". Which Superstars would you like to see interviewed (including parents).

Please ask questions and we will try our hardest to answer.

Oh and we're on Facebook (type WWEClassics.com) and hopefully soon on Twitter!

----

As for WWEClassics.com being PG. We have to provide better "in your face" warnings about which videos are not PG. This is why we removed such matches for the time being. We're developing a better system for this that will improve as months go on. When that system exists we'll add that content back.

---

We're not giving hints anymore to each weeks matches. Only because if we have to change our schedule last minute (as we did in the past) we don't want to mis-advertise anything. Writing "Subject to Change", is not something we don't want to use as an excuse.

MM, are you guessing they are heading toward flash or did I miss a post? I see some vague discussion of technical issues but I seem to recall flash based videos being discussed in the past when folks were having technical difficulties / demanding youtube style star ratings.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on June 28, 2010, 07:37:32 AM
Quote
The fact is, we had some tech issues with the service and simply could not speak about them.

That being said, we are back on here. And those tech issues will hopefully come into affect sooner than later. When everything goes full throttle, WWEClassics.com will be an even more enticing site for everyone

This was the quote that had me thinking they're moving to flash.

The top advantage of using the WMP links is making a playlist or que so you don't have to miss any videos, even if that means being a month behind or more, like I am now.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on June 28, 2010, 07:40:20 AM
I guess I never thought of making a queue before... probably would have helped since I basically forgot what Raw from June (or July?) I watched last and have been patiently waiting for them to update the archives so I could read the show descriptions.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 03, 2010, 06:30:14 AM
Anyone got an advanced Superstars link I can use when I get home from work?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 03, 2010, 07:19:13 AM
I tried a few different variations w/ no luck. Classics put a note on dave meltzer's board that no one cares about saying the update may not come until Tuesday so I doubt they've had a chance to upload the links quite yet.

Offtopic, I'm so glad Challenge can use the replay & Event Center fadeout music because that tune they used to overdub it was so fuckin loud and irritating.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 03, 2010, 07:31:03 AM
I'm going to assume that should refer to their board, not a word filter for the F4W board?

I was hoping with the holiday weekend (you guys get Monday in lieu of Sunday, I assume?) they would have done the actual update on Friday, or at the very least had hidden links, but I guess not.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 03, 2010, 07:36:23 AM
Yeah, the filter struck an innocent bystandard. I was hoping for the Friday update myself, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were working w/ a half staff on Monday because of the holiday.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 03, 2010, 07:46:20 AM
I like that Kamz89 guy. WHY R THERE RING ANNOUNCER?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 03, 2010, 07:50:20 AM
I shudder to think if he's actually 20 or 21.

I hope he tweets Dana White asking when UFC is coming to South Africa.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 03, 2010, 01:00:11 PM
A pearl of boredom from Kamz89

Topic - "I want the WWE to read all our threads everday!!!"
Message - "I want the WWE to read all our threads everday!!!"
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on July 03, 2010, 05:25:40 PM
Offtopic, I'm so glad Challenge can use the replay & Event Center fadeout music because that tune they used to overdub it was so fuckin loud and irritating.

At least they finally realised that they've been editing the music out for no reason, which I tried to explain to them ages ago!
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 05, 2010, 04:25:02 AM
I was watching Raw 119 and at some point during the main event, Vince starts some tirade about "violence on television" surveys and how we shouldn't confuse the WWF for those "unmonitored pro wrestling genre shows".
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 05, 2010, 04:30:12 AM
No monster trucks falling off of buildings here.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on July 05, 2010, 04:47:03 AM
Unused 1995 WWF slogan: "The WWF! It is hot, and you have been here before!"
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 05, 2010, 10:49:10 AM
Here's some Superstars/Challenge to watch in case Raw sucks:

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/072010/drm-July2010_Superstars273_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/072010/drm-July2010_Superstars273_750.wmv) - Complete with the CENSORED X
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/072010/drm-July2010_Challenge97_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/072010/drm-July2010_Challenge97_750.wmv) - Complete with . . . well, it's always fun to hear from Gorilla & The Brain
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 06, 2010, 10:08:51 AM
I'm trying to remember the "censored" deal - it kind of looks like they made it themselves using the style of how the big Censor X's were shown back on TV back then. It's aired on Classics on Demand and even a previous Classics.com video (which is mysteriously absent from the 1991 timeline, but we all know we can find it) had it without the X. That said, I remember seeing the big X when I was a kid, so... I don't know, really. Maybe I can consult the Retro WON on the subject.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 06, 2010, 10:13:51 AM
I think the syndicated versions got the X-treatment while the Prime Time Wrestling/SurSer91 versions bore all.

The Beefcake/Bass stabbing received the X as well.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 06, 2010, 10:38:37 AM
Yeah, that was the theory I came up with on the F4W posting board where I said the exact same thing. My youtube searching for an original broadcast's best result was Vince warning kids not to watch the recap on the Survivor Series Showdown.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on July 07, 2010, 08:30:45 AM
Incase anyone didn't think to check so soon, they've updated their page 5 days early so there's some new matches, Raw, Saturday Night etc. already
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 07, 2010, 09:41:37 AM
Thanks for the heads up.

Anyone know when that Kowalski match took place? I used 1/1/1958 since Bollas apparently was unmasked in a different territory in May of 1957.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 15, 2010, 12:42:53 AM
I was surprised to see Classics.com acknowledge - though vaguely - the Benoit editing situation that will be coming up with WCWSN. I just figured he'd ignore the topic all together.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 15, 2010, 03:21:43 AM
Crappy thing about him being edited off SN is that I would assume he was involved in a lot of main event matches so they'll have to hack off any sort of Benoit hype throughout the show.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on July 15, 2010, 03:25:24 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Benoit was introduced as a Horseman in a backstage interview on Saturday Night.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 16, 2010, 07:44:02 AM
I'm not working tomorrow morning and want to watch Superstars. Any hidden links?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 16, 2010, 08:01:30 AM
Funny you should ask . . .

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/072010/drm-July2010_Superstars274_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/072010/drm-July2010_Superstars274_750.wmv) - SuperStars 11/30/91
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/072010/drm-July2010_Challenge98_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/072010/drm-July2010_Challenge98_750.wmv) - Challenge 7/17/88 - 22 year anniversary of this ep is tomorrow . . . fuck I'm old.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 16, 2010, 11:18:53 PM
Shouldn't that date be 12/2/91? Hmm... no, no it shouldn't. I wonder why they're dating them as happening on a Monday.

Mr. Perfect on commentary!
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 17, 2010, 12:52:38 AM
They get a little wacky with their dates. A while back, they had the 1995 Raws dated as 1996. I'm dating the SuperStars eps on Saturdays on Challenge eps on Sundays.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 17, 2010, 02:16:27 AM
I recall the 1996 problem, yeah.

I like this era for Superstars because it's non-stop PPV builds until WrestleMania VIII... then we get the spring lull, but THAT features VOODOO MAGIC.
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Post by: Venkman on July 18, 2010, 05:00:42 AM
Was there originally different music in these Goldust vignettes? I can't hear a word he's saying in the second one, and could barely hear him in the first one (though it was awesome that he had the WB backlot in the background with large Tiny Toons and Batman:TAS posters).
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Post by: Ed on July 18, 2010, 06:04:01 AM
Those Goldust vignettes freaked me the fuck out as a child.

HE WAS A MAN COVERED IN GOLD PAINT!!!
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 18, 2010, 09:23:04 AM
Was there originally different music in these Goldust vignettes? I can't hear a word he's saying in the second one, and could barely hear him in the first one (though it was awesome that he had the WB backlot in the background with large Tiny Toons and Batman:TAS posters).

There had to have been different music playing, since IIRC on the Classics versions, Goldust's current theme is playing in the background which is not 1/2 as creepy as his first 2 versions of theme he used through 1997.
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Post by: Venkman on July 18, 2010, 09:35:05 AM
Yeah, I realized the theme playing had the new background sounds and more upbeat feel than the original and deduced they must have inserted it over the original theme... but wouldn't you think they have the rights to that theme too?

It seems they weren't really playing his original theme, just some really creepy music that samples the theme. Again, I would think music from after 1995 is all good, but that's royalties and copyright for you.

Goldust Pre Debut Vignette (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1hK-oxxiE8#normal)
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 18, 2010, 09:38:15 AM
I bet the original Goldust vignette theme was something altogether different as I don't remember ever hearing the original Goldust entrance theme until his match against Savio Vega. I remember finding it pretty catchy.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 18, 2010, 09:41:17 AM
"I Wanna See The WCW Double Cage Match That Was Awesome I Want To See The Whole PPV."

I'd shut down their message board if I was running Classics.
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Post by: Venkman on July 18, 2010, 09:41:29 AM
Well you can hear bits and pieces of it in that video above, but it's generally totally different music.
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Post by: Ed on July 18, 2010, 04:58:59 PM
In your mark days, if you watched WCW alot, did you make the connection that the creepy gold guy with the long blonde hair was really "The Natural" Dustin Rhodes? I don't mean when he started wrestling and took off the wig, I mean when these vignettes first aired, and you weren't online and didn't read any dirt sheets. I didn't get online until 1999 and I rarely brought wrestling magazines, so I had no idea that Goldust was Dustin when he came back to the WWF.

I was pretty bad at recognizing older wrestlers in new gimmicks, though. I didn't know Syxx was The 1-2-3 Kid until 1999, only because I stopped watching the WWF before he started to change his look.
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Post by: alkeiper on July 18, 2010, 09:14:37 PM
In your mark days, if you watched WCW alot, did you make the connection that the creepy gold guy with the long blonde hair was really "The Natural" Dustin Rhodes? I don't mean when he started wrestling and took off the wig, I mean when these vignettes first aired, and you weren't online and didn't read any dirt sheets. I didn't get online until 1999 and I rarely brought wrestling magazines, so I had no idea that Goldust was Dustin when he came back to the WWF.

I was pretty bad at recognizing older wrestlers in new gimmicks, though. I didn't know Syxx was The 1-2-3 Kid until 1999, only because I stopped watching the WWF before he started to change his look.
I knew it was either Rhodes or Barry Windham since the Apter mags indicated both were on their way.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 18, 2010, 10:51:16 PM
I had absolutely no idea until I saw him do a bulldog.
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Post by: Venkman on July 18, 2010, 11:37:29 PM
I think I figured it out when someone held up a sign at Survivor Series 95.

Actually that's not true, I probably heard it on a wrestling hotline prior to that but I never made the connection. I didn't even know it was a wig the first time I saw him.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 19, 2010, 01:45:34 AM
They updated officially today. I thought they were supposed to debut a brand new exclusive show starting this month. However, it's just the 2 weeklies and 5 indiv matches uploaded.

Perhaps, the new show will debut next week with the SummerSlam matches.
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Post by: Venkman on July 19, 2010, 02:57:42 AM
I thought the show debuted last month as a one time special (Wacky Tag Teams or something, right?). Maybe I misunderstood though.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 19, 2010, 04:36:37 AM
You're probably right. I just tried looking for the comment and couldn't find it.

I hope they upload DX/Legacy from last year. I remember the match being much better than what Meltz/Alvarez thought of it and I'd like to see it one more time with a year in the rear view mirror.

Didn't know Rocky Johnson was Canadian.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 20, 2010, 04:40:08 AM
Watched a batch of matches last night including the Blondes WCW Tag Title win over Steamboat/Douglas which included multiple cases of Douglas being choked by a towel to get heat . . . and suuuuu doggie, it worked.

Interesting hearing the dynamic of Ventura/Schiavone. In the WWF, Tony was on Jesse's turf and Ventura would verbally bully him around during their sparse time together. But in WCW, Schiavone (and Ross for that matter) would just ignore Jesse if he started getting too far off the beaten path or if he started getting all aggressive.

Between Steamboat's performances in his Starrcade 92 title match and this one from Worldwide, he is so brilliant with the little nuances of the tag team game. Throwing his arms in an exacerbated manner when barely missing the hot tag, desperately doing the choke gesture with his hands to get the crowd to make some noise to get the ref's attention, and the hot tag itself . . . phenominal.
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Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on July 20, 2010, 04:56:22 AM
Where is that Blondes match? I don't know how to navigate their archives anymore.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 20, 2010, 06:57:03 AM
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062010/drm-June2010_hollywoodblondes_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062010/drm-June2010_hollywoodblondes_750.wmv)

I'm guessing they haven't even archived it yet.
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Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on July 20, 2010, 07:09:52 AM
As Drury37 might say, thanks.
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Post by: alkeiper on July 20, 2010, 12:26:13 PM
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Between Steamboat's performances in his Starrcade 92 title match and this one from Worldwide, he is so brilliant with the little nuances of the tag team game. Throwing his arms in an exacerbated manner when barely missing the hot tag, desperately doing the choke gesture with his hands to get the crowd to make some noise to get the ref's attention, and the hot tag itself . . . phenominal.

I'm always pimping this match, but track down Steamboat/Youngblood vs. Slaughter/Kernodle.  Steamboat and Youngblood were a fantastic team but they're largely forgotten.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 25, 2010, 02:22:59 PM
Here's hoping the wweclassics team gets bored and uploads complete SummerSlam ppvs similiar to how they uploaded Survivor Series ppvs from 1987-94 (of course, they never did post 1989-90, 92-93) last November.
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Post by: landy1987 on July 30, 2010, 01:34:29 AM
Early update:

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/082010/drm-August2010_Raw130_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/082010/drm-August2010_Raw130_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/082010/drm-August2010_WCWSN1284_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/082010/drm-August2010_WCWSN1284_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/082010/drm-August2010_FullPPV_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/082010/drm-August2010_FullPPV_750.wmv) (SummerSlam 88)

What is August's theme again? Was it greatest rivalries or something?
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Post by: Venkman on July 30, 2010, 02:00:56 AM
I believe so, yes.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 30, 2010, 03:18:07 AM
What a lame ppv to add. Seems like over half the ppv is already up under the SummerSlam section. I had my fingers crossed for This Tuesday in Texas.
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Post by: Venkman on July 30, 2010, 03:52:49 AM
Me too! 24/7 showed it so I know they should have had a version ready to go.
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Post by: Venkman on August 02, 2010, 03:25:51 AM
Quote from: TNA IS THE NEW ECW
im not watchn that old poo im up to date wit my tna new stuff **** watch all
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 02, 2010, 04:03:02 AM
I sure hope Jeff Hardy returns WrestleMania to its rightful owner next year.
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Post by: Venkman on August 02, 2010, 09:50:37 AM
Today is Monday, right?
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 02, 2010, 10:31:31 AM
Evidently. This may work out better since we'll probably get an early update next week to make up for this week . . . which means early SuperStahhhs!
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Post by: Venkman on August 03, 2010, 02:57:57 AM
NWA Pro - Midnight Express vs. Rock N’ Roll Express
March 29, 2003

I suspect that date is wrong.
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Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on August 03, 2010, 03:07:43 AM
I wouldn't be surprised, honestly.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 03, 2010, 05:09:22 AM
ECW Legacy . . . yada yada yada . . . Parental discretion is advised.
Randy Savage vs Ric Flair . . . yada yada yada . . . Parental Guidance is strongly suggested.

Hmmmm, I wonder what the difference is.
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Post by: Venkman on August 03, 2010, 05:10:40 AM
Flair's ass, I guess.
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Post by: Venkman on August 04, 2010, 03:21:20 AM
Is it me or does the program director on the forums seem like a different person now? Maybe not but the way my question about the Thrillseekers video was answered seemed out of the "bluntly answering questions in one sentence and ignoring those that need to be looked into (or are too silly to justify answering)" method I'm used to for most of the questions asked there.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 04, 2010, 06:23:20 AM
I think there are two different people answering posts. One signs his posts "-WWECLASSICS.com" and the other doesn't.

The new guy also seems to be more formal than the other fella.

So, any ideas for the Week 3 main event? Sounds like Hogan vs Orndorff from the Big Event but I don't really keep track of anyone's posts on that board other than Venk's and the Classics dude.
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Post by: Venkman on August 04, 2010, 09:02:26 AM
All of the question marks in his answer to me is what got me thinking. Normally a question about cut footage or dubbed music gets an immediate "we could not clear that footage" response, but I just seemed to raise further questions and got an admission that, "I'm just the director, I don't know what my team cut". Odd.

I also don't know what people are demanding since any post that says "Show such and such" (usually Nitro) is generally skimmed over or ignored.
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Post by: landy1987 on August 05, 2010, 06:54:58 PM
Early Superstars & Challenge:


http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/082010/drm-August2010_Superstars275_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/082010/drm-August2010_Superstars275_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/082010/drm-August2010_Challenge99_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/082010/drm-August2010_Challenge99_750.wmv)
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Post by: Venkman on August 06, 2010, 02:50:45 AM
I have high hopes that this episode has a Royal Rumble Report.

Edit: Guess not since at the top of the show Vince still thinks Hogan is champion... but we have a statement upcoming from Jack Tunney!

Also: NEW FOUNDATION!
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Post by: Venkman on August 06, 2010, 03:11:02 AM
There is a rather odd Skinner promo on Superstars. He makes an environmental plea about the Everglades, then claims he's undefeated even though when this aired he would have lost to Bret Hart, then he promises in a very creepy manner to see us all Christmas morning.

Poor Kato. He's teaming with a jobber against the New Foundation in a Superstars squash - luckily he got to team with Tanaka again at the Rumble to have a pretty great tag match with the New Foundation.

They're using the dreaded "belt" word a lot on this episode.

THERE IS A ROYAL RUMBLE REPORT! YES! I wanted to hear the Rumble music though...
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 09, 2010, 08:18:45 AM
I marked out at the end of the Edge vs Perfect match since Perfect was DQed instead of being pinned. I had just assumed Perfect was a full fledged jobber with music in his 2002 run.

Also, for anyone that watched La Resistance vs Hurricane/Slaughter match, why was that rated TV-14? I know something Hurricane said got bleeped but that was it. No blood, no further profanity, ect . . . maybe Vince really really hates the French national anthem.
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Post by: Venkman on August 09, 2010, 08:22:34 AM
I like how that Jim fella posted a youtube link in the discussion thread - or as I view it, alerted WWE's web team to something they could have removed due to copyright claims. Good work, Jim.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 09, 2010, 08:29:06 AM
The little SMW (except for the Thrillseekers vignette) that has been posted doesn't exactly leave me yearning for more. Though I'm sure if some Jake Roberts or Arn Anderson in SMW was uploaded, I'd change my tune.

Stampede is another territory where I guess I just don't get it. The matches kind of just go on and on and on until the ref tells them to go home and all of the sudden, the match is over.
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Post by: Venkman on August 09, 2010, 08:42:23 AM
"Marlena likes to talk to Goldust during sex. Last night she called him from a motel room" - Vintage Lawler.
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Post by: Venkman on August 16, 2010, 02:46:45 AM
Nice description for this week's WCWSN:

"The last episode of WCW Saturday Night was to put it nicely, a little lackluster. There weren’t many big matches on the show. WCW makes up for this week with six featured bouts!"

Out of the 5 matches they put up this week, I'll guess it's Hogan/Piper from The Wrestling Classic that was hinted at previously. I don't know who the hell is requesting Wrestling Classic be shown though. Could also be Flair/Dusty from Starrcade 85.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 16, 2010, 06:55:42 AM
Oh Venk, there's no way will they re-air that same Dusty/Flair match as if it's never before posted.

ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Can't wait to start tackling the Challenge eps from upstate New York tonight. The building managers of these facilities always have gracious words for the WWF. They should considering they come back week after week for up to a month.

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Post by: Venkman on August 21, 2010, 04:59:43 AM
I tried some detective work (most changing the last posted Superstars URL to 751 instead of 750) but yielded no results. Sad face.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 21, 2010, 05:05:24 AM
Yeah, same here. I tried it with the "August2010" and "Aug2010" tags. I think of the early finds, Landy has beaten me to the punch 90% of the time so I'm not exactly confident finding the early snags if he hadn't yet.

Does anyone know what September's theme is supposed to be? I tried looking for it but couldn't find it.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 22, 2010, 10:52:44 AM
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What new things would you like to see on the Entrance Stage???
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 22, 2010, 04:25:35 PM
A guillotine for WWE Universe Forums posters.
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Post by: landy1987 on August 23, 2010, 08:43:35 AM
Finally after almost 8 years I can now (legally) watch Challenge after the 7/24/88 show! Here in the UK we got all the old episodes of Challenge up until that date (November 2002 was the cut of for when they could keep using the "WWF" name and so we instead got old WCW Worldwide episodes beginning from mid 1990 (I was so mad at the time but began to enjoy Worldwide a lot when they got to 1992)
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 23, 2010, 09:27:30 AM
I remember getting bootlegs from the UK and humorously enough, the quality of the discs I received got worse as the Challenges went into 1988. I miss the WWF Openings . . . What the World is Watching.

Also, Venk needs to get some screenshots of the parting shots of the Brother Love shows with Rude (complete with the chick grabbing Rude's ass, or maybe it's the other way around) and the one w/ Snake (with Brother Love ignoring Roberts to pucker and smile at the camera).

I hope this whole September 1st launch of the new month doesn't end up hosing everyone. I can just picture Classics hyping up their next update coming September 13th.
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Post by: Venkman on August 23, 2010, 11:05:29 AM
Superstars is TV-14! I watched this when I was 10. Back then we didn't have TV ratings, I tell you what.

Fun fact: I have not watched a single episode of Challenge on this service. I think I'll work my way through them soon enough though. It's not a huge deal to my enjoyment (plus it's a totally different show), but part of my issue with Challenge is in terms of angles and show build-up, I've watched this all happen on Prime Time Wrestling semi-recently. 90s Superstars is stuff I haven't seen since it first aired.
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Post by: Venkman on August 23, 2010, 11:08:15 AM
"Last week Roddy Piper called Jack Tunney and threw his hat in to enter the Royal Rumble" - what the hell is Vince talking about? Tunney called Piper!
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 23, 2010, 11:09:49 AM
The 1st three eps are worth it just for Lord Alfred Hayes bumbling through the ring announcing. Though it's not as if Ernie Ladd was any better as a color commentator. If I never hear the phrase "Without a shadow of a doubt" again, it won't be too soon.

Another early Challenge charm is the superstar teaming with a jobber staple that reoccured through the end of 86 or so.
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Post by: Venkman on August 23, 2010, 11:20:08 AM
They missed the "F" on the "WWF Supertape 92" spine in the graphic on Update. I won't tattle though.

The Championship theme next month sounds cool, assuming they don't randomly pick the worst stuff possible (like, "WCW Cruiserweight Championship - Evan Karagais vs. Madusa").

I think the big event next month will be an AWA Super Clash, based on the "not a WCW or WWE event" mention.

I love that in the past near 20 years, no matter how many men vs. women angles or physical conflicts have happened and the desensitization of such incidents on TV, Jake doing his short punch on Liz always makes flinch in shock. YOU DON'T HIT ELIZABETH!
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 27, 2010, 10:02:49 AM
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is it just me or has the wwe stopped updating new videos of wwe superstars having an secert conversation in the locker rooms???

Quote
Are we Still allowed to videos basically gifs???
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Post by: Venkman on August 30, 2010, 01:32:51 AM
Vintage Collections theme for the next 4 weeks (well, 3 after Saturday) is "Month of Champions". That sounds familiar.
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Post by: landy1987 on August 30, 2010, 05:07:42 AM
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We got some messages on here asking about "Introducing". The show has NOT been canceled and will return September 1st. Our scheduled Superstar for August was a better fit for our September theme. It's as simple as that.

We have our October and November Superstars scheduled. If videos go according to plan, November should be a nice surprise featuring a Superstar you haven't seen on WWE TV for almost 20 years but was very involved on the first 100 episodes of Wrestling Challenge. NO other hints offered in case this interview doesn't go up in November.

Thanks
-WWEClassics.com

Surely not who I'm thinking? Ooooooh Yeaahhh!!!
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Post by: Venkman on August 30, 2010, 05:22:58 AM
"Buy my Mattel action figure"
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 30, 2010, 05:59:42 AM
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We got some messages on here asking about "Introducing". The show has NOT been canceled and will return September 1st. Our scheduled Superstar for August was a better fit for our September theme. It's as simple as that.

We have our October and November Superstars scheduled. If videos go according to plan, November should be a nice surprise featuring a Superstar you haven't seen on WWE TV for almost 20 years but was very involved on the first 100 episodes of Wrestling Challenge. NO other hints offered in case this interview doesn't go up in November.

Thanks
-WWEClassics.com

Surely not who I'm thinking? Ooooooh Yeaahhh!!!

This contest is scheduled for one fall. Currently in the ring . . . from Tampa, Florida, weighing 246 pounds . . . Terry Gibbs!
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Post by: Venkman on September 01, 2010, 04:23:01 AM
I think the big event next month will be an AWA Super Clash, based on the "not a WCW or WWE event" mention.

Nailed it - SuperClash 1.

They announced today that they're going back to the "New month = entire page of content" format so everything is available for 30 days. Next month is a Salute to SmackDown and NWO 2004 is the PPV. There will also be 30 matches next month.

I liked the weekly updates, but since the service has evolved with the TV shows and specials, I'm cool with them just throwing it all up on day 1. I have TWO Superstars episodes waiting to be watched now!
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Post by: Venkman on September 01, 2010, 04:26:24 AM
"It’s usually not a homecoming when a WWE Superstar returns to his hometown for a WWE event"

You said it, Classics.
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Post by: Venkman on September 01, 2010, 05:12:04 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/drvenkman21/AlPhillipsTombstone.jpg)

That looked like it sucked for poor Mr. Phillips.

Jake cuts an... odd promo about Savage's chances at the Rumble being like sex, "It ain't gonna happen, so don't think you can put your hands on me".

Mooney also wonders if The Rockers will be doing "The Jingle Bell Rock" on Christmas Eve. I never thought of them that way, Sean.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on September 01, 2010, 06:18:47 AM
Going all out on the 1st of the month is a good move considering their somewhat new 3-month policy for archiving old matches/shows. I remember it used be within a couple of weeks after the end of the month. It was also a good way to hose everyone out of that 5th week without the masses noticing.

Finally caught IYH: Great White North. I was pumped to see how bad Diesel vs Bulldog would be based on IWC lore. It was dull and a little sloppy but nothing atrocious. The ending wasn't exactly endearing but the crowd seemed to eat up the postmatch brawl. Cornette's flying elbow onto Diesel's knee should break the match into ** territory on its own.
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Post by: Venkman on September 01, 2010, 06:22:57 AM
They pretty much admitted this policy is due to the fact it takes them forever to archive matches and, without the "Last Month's Videos" section, they're screwing people on the Week 4 updates. Not in those exact words, of course.
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Post by: alkeiper on September 02, 2010, 01:28:48 AM
Backlund/Valentine is always good.  This match is the infamous match where the title becomes vacant in NYC only.
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Post by: Venkman on September 02, 2010, 10:06:11 AM
The IC Legacy episode includes my favourite Austin / Faarooq exchange. "Basically I didn't understand a damn word you just said, but I gather you're pretty pissed off".
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Post by: Venkman on September 02, 2010, 10:15:41 AM
Lol, Vince refers to Virgil as "Bodyguard Virgil" on the 12/30 Superstars episode. Hey, he only split with DiBiase 12 months prior, easy mistake to make I guess.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on September 02, 2010, 10:19:25 AM
I think Chico Santana was employing him at this point.
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Post by: Venkman on September 02, 2010, 10:23:30 AM
I guess I never really noticed that Martel was gone since WrestleMania VII, but now he's "back from Europe"!

So in one episode, I'm getting the last Rocker's tag match (until 2005) and the debut of Pink Tights Martel. Good stuff.
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Post by: Venkman on September 02, 2010, 10:49:41 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/drvenkman21/FlairRealWorldsTagChampion.jpg)

Did they forget to blur the belt here? CLEARLY the WWF Tag Title.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on September 02, 2010, 12:26:25 PM
I guess I never really noticed that Martel was gone since WrestleMania VII, but now he's "back from Europe"!

So in one episode, I'm getting the last Rocker's tag match (until 2005) and the debut of Pink Tights Martel. Good stuff.

He had the . . . oh wait, those were purple.

They jobbed Martel out shortly after WrestleMania VII to Roddy Piper (on SuperStars) and the Ultimate Warrior (on Challenge). I believe those matches may have aired on the same weekend.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on September 02, 2010, 02:29:28 PM
MR ROYALRUMBLE is not impressed with your last post Venk.
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Post by: JHawk on September 02, 2010, 02:47:11 PM
Backlund/Valentine is always good.  This match is the infamous match where the title becomes vacant in NYC only.
This is why I keep the service, as I've never seen anybody with a copy of this match and was starting to wonder if it had even been filmed.
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Post by: JHawk on September 07, 2010, 02:31:39 PM
Superclash is LONG!  Some decent stuff on it (Flair-Magnum is fantastic) but for a show featuring so many titles that some of the titles were fictional, there's an awful lot of stuff that felt like filler.
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Post by: Monsoon Classic on September 14, 2010, 07:40:43 AM
I wish these assholes pushing for Flash would pipe down on the board.
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Post by: Venkman on September 16, 2010, 02:36:22 AM
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October Preview:

We don't want to give away every match we're airing this October as part of the big United States move of SmackDown to SyFy. However here are a few matches:
-Kurt Angle vs. Brock Lesnar - WWE Iron Man Match
-The return of Piper's Pit
-Rey Mysterio vs. Eddie Guerrero
-Hulk Hogan & The Rock vs. Christian & Lance Storm
-Tazz vs. Triple H - Champion vs. Champion
-Kurt Angle & Sensational Sherri performing "Sexy Boy"
-Undertaker vs. Batista
-Ric Flair's final match on SmackDown and MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MORE!

Also our December tentative schedule is "Classics Through the Years" where we highlight one memorable match from 1980-2010. We plan to feature NWA, WCW, ECW, WWE and WCCW that month!

November is "Twists, Turns & Teases".

I have no memory of Hogan and Rock vs. Christian and Storm. The preview is already promising, so good stuff.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on September 27, 2010, 02:46:13 AM
Early update! I'm guessing these won't actually be on WWE.com until this Friday for the start of the month. I'll edit the post if I find anymore besides the full shows

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/102010/drm-oct2010_ppv_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/102010/drm-oct2010_ppv_750.wmv)

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/102010/drm-oct2010_raw134_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/102010/drm-oct2010_raw134_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/102010/drm-oct2010_raw135_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/102010/drm-oct2010_raw135_750.wmv)

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/102010/drm-oct2010_superstars279_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/102010/drm-oct2010_superstars279_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/102010/drm-oct2010_superstars280_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/102010/drm-oct2010_superstars280_750.wmv)

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/102010/drm-oct2010_challenge103_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/102010/drm-oct2010_challenge103_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/102010/drm-oct2010_challenge104_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/102010/drm-oct2010_challenge104_750.wmv)

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/102010/drm-oct2010_wcwsn1288_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/102010/drm-oct2010_wcwsn1288_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/102010/drm-oct2010_wcwsn1289_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/102010/drm-oct2010_wcwsn1289_750.wmv)

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/102010/drm-oct2010_ic40_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/102010/drm-oct2010_ic40_750.wmv)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on September 27, 2010, 02:52:11 AM
No Way Out 2004 was only 2 hours, 15 minutes? Am I forgetting a Benoit match that needed to be cut?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on September 27, 2010, 03:11:31 AM
Thanks for the early links Landy. Benoit was on Raw at the time so he shouldn't have been on the show.

Got around to watching the Superstars set of eps from CT. Poor Al Phillips. They finally get an athletic jobber who can bump around and he gets his head screwed around on that tombstone. That and damn the Bushwhackers rule!
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on September 30, 2010, 04:27:17 AM
I forgot about the announcement that they'd be showing Coliseum Video's too. This month, it's the (original) Most Unusual Matches tape.

I just quickly browsed the (large) list of SmackDown matches and segments they put up, some stuff looks pretty good. Apparently there's a 20 minute Rey vs. Morrison match I have no memory of.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on September 30, 2010, 04:35:09 AM
Quote from: WCWSN Description
Plus it's the debut of Disco Inferno's music video (remember you can fast-forward the video player).

That's low, Classics.com producers. Funny, but low.

Quote
SmackDown - DX vs. Hart Dynasty
December 20, 2009   |   Approx. run time: 17 mins.

The World Six-Man Tag Team Titles were on the line as the Von Erich’s face the Fabulous Freebirds. Usually pride was the only thing on the line but on this night, titles were also defended. The Freebirds entered Texas Stadium as the champions but would they leave with all three titles? The following video is rated TV-PG.

Might be the wrong description.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on September 30, 2010, 11:54:09 AM
Booooo to no Smackdown Rumble.

Yay to being able to pump up the archive with Coliseum Videos. Since they're not re-airing the Best of WWF Volumes, I hope they pick tapes at random. I would think the Most Unusual Matches video be better off for next month for turns, twists, & teases or whatever the month is called.

Currently going through the Cedar Rapids Challenge eps. Got to love how Sam Houston was apart of a jobber team against Demolition and he still didn't get a buttlick of offense before bailing out. Also, it does appear condescending to any face to have to cut a promo on the Brother Love show with that church music faintly playing in the background.

Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on September 30, 2010, 12:06:12 PM
The description of one of the Challenge episodes made me think Ron Bass was going to spur Beefcake (and 24/7 skipped this because PTW didn't air that week's events). However it's rated TV-PG - normally in this era they would call that TV-14, right?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on September 30, 2010, 01:01:49 PM
Maybe the red censored X saved it from a TV-14 rating. My guess is if they air it, it will be on the next episode since most of what gets aired from Superstars lags a week.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on September 30, 2010, 01:09:22 PM
Yeah, makes sense.

Also, it's a miracle! Secret backstage conversations are on youtube.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on September 30, 2010, 01:16:01 PM
no replies
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: JHawk on September 30, 2010, 01:25:38 PM
Somehow the match with WWF Champion Triple H vs. ECW Champion Tazz is listed as airing two years after the original ECW folded.  Tazz held the belt for nine days and they couldn't get the date right?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on September 30, 2010, 01:28:13 PM
I pointed that out to them, yes. I was also going to call them out on having the wrong description for Superstars but I guess it is right and the "Update" feature on Rockers vs. LOD counts as a match.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: alkeiper on September 30, 2010, 02:24:15 PM
Quick thoughts so far on the Coliseum Video.

*Has a lumberjack match ever solved anything in the history of wrestling?  That said, Santana/Valentine was a fantastic match.

*Valentine/Strongbow is a solid 7 minute match.

*The womens battle royal was ridiculous.  How about blowing the finishing spot, repeating it and blowing it again!  And Donna Christianello makes an appearance nearly 20 years before appearing at the original Survivor Series.

*"From Samoa, Afa, the Samoan!"
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on September 30, 2010, 02:26:58 PM
*"From Samoa, Afa, the Samoan!"

Haha, yeah, someone had a screencap from a match on 24/7 with "The Samoan" where they helpfully listed his residence as "Samoa" underneath.

I'm looking forward to a random 93-94 era CV to show up someday since I saw less and less of those by then. There is one I DID see though that I'd love to see again - it featured Owen Hart pretty much becoming WWF Champion and having it overturned for some bogus reason.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on September 30, 2010, 02:27:34 PM
I love how they took their time with the entrances and clipped their way 1/2 way through the match (referring to the Most Unusual Matches battle royal).
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on September 30, 2010, 02:29:38 PM
Is this the tape with Lanny Poffo in a suit of armour during a battle royal? That's pretty unusual (though I believe also available in the archives).
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on September 30, 2010, 02:30:37 PM
That match is on the WWF's Even More Unusual Matches. The one on this video comes down to three fellas in black tights . . . Ron Shaw, Rene Goulet, & Antonio Inoki . . . but hey, wouldn't want to spoil who wins.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on September 30, 2010, 02:32:37 PM
Does Rene break up any fights during the match? I guess that wouldn't have been his job yet.

That brings up a random question - which agent is it that Monsoon often poked fun at for letting themselves go after retiring? Strongbow?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on September 30, 2010, 02:42:42 PM
He blasted Pat Patterson during the Harts/Steiners post-match pull apart.

Monsoon - Is that Pat Patterson?!?
Lane - Certainly looks like Pat . . .
Monsoon - HOLY MACKREL DID HE GET FAT?!?!? Boy did he let himself go!
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on October 02, 2010, 03:59:39 AM
The 1/4 Superstars totally false advertised a Savage/Barbarian match for the 1/11 episode :(

Oh, apparently it got moved to 1/18.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on October 02, 2010, 11:09:12 AM
Savage must have been exhausted after squashing the Barbarian the day before the Rumble, then Hercules the day of the Rumble before actually competing in the Rumble and losing.

You see, this is what happens when you take such competitive matches thisclose to a big ppv.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on October 02, 2010, 12:53:19 PM
I thought the Rockers Barbershop angle aired the 1/4 weekend (so 1/5 on Challenge in most markets) so I was hoping for an UPDATE! about it on the 1/11 Superstars. Did it air on the 12th or the day of the Rumble? And yes I figure I can look this up myself but I like this way too.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on October 02, 2010, 01:42:16 PM
IIRC, it aired the week before the Rumble. It was re-aired on Challenge the weekend of the Rumble so I would guess it would air in full in November. Then, we will get an INSIDE LOOK.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on October 02, 2010, 01:47:08 PM
I like how one of the prodcers answered a question about the IC Title shows and how Benoit will be handled without once talking about Benoit.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: DMann1979 on October 14, 2010, 07:33:00 AM
Watching the old WCW Saturday Night's from 1995 brought back a confusion with the Flair/Anderson/Sting angle I had back when it happened.  Wasn't Arn the babyface when he fought Flair at Fall Brawl, portraying himself as a man who was finally standing up to Flair's selfishness and lack of appreciation?  Pillman in the mix initially played out as Flair just getting a taste of his own medicine but for the month between Fall Brawl and Halloween Havoc Anderson was looked at as turning his back on Flair.  Did I miss something?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on October 14, 2010, 08:14:36 AM
I think it just speaks as to how over Flair was despite being pushed aside and under the bus after Hogan arrived.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on October 14, 2010, 08:54:43 AM
This was another TNA-ish angle with Anderson wrestling Flair in the cage on Nitro then having a Flair/Sting vs AA/Pillman match with Sting not showing up until Flair was getting creamed.

Did they cover it up by saying Flair called AA/Pillman the morning of Havoc or something like that? I haven't watched the post-Havoc Sat Nights yet.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on October 18, 2010, 04:46:40 AM
It only took four sittings, but I made it through SuperClash 85.

I spent most of the time tracking the day-laborer lookin fella in the front row with the flannel shirt and coke-bottle glasses. He wouldn't move a muscle until the Road Warriors entered. He was also a mark for the USA/Russia matches. Also, him showing his fist to his kid when they started rasslin around a few matches in would probably get him arrested today. He and his family left during the Magnum TA/Ric Flair match. I was shocked as shit to see that ended with a pinfall finish.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on October 22, 2010, 09:57:26 AM
Well, it looks like the wweclassics.com folks have been working overtime wiping out all the content off their servers that is not posted on their page.

No more monthly exclusive content (unless they purposely left it on their page ala Royal Rumble 2008, WrestleMania I, ect).

And no more HHH vs Benoit :(

EDIT - Nevermind, seems to be working now. Looks like my cpu just needed a restart.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Brodypedia on October 22, 2010, 11:13:33 AM
Savage must have been exhausted after squashing the Barbarian the day before the Rumble, then Hercules the day of the Rumble before actually competing in the Rumble and losing.

You see, this is what happens when you take such competitive matches thisclose to a big ppv.

Imagine being a 9 year old mark like i was and having those shows appear back to back on a Saturday Morning.  I thought Macho Man was going to get hurt (since it was clearly live and all)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on October 24, 2010, 08:15:31 AM
Well, it looks like the wweclassics.com folks have been working overtime wiping out all the content off their servers that is not posted on their page.

No more monthly exclusive content (unless they purposely left it on their page ala Royal Rumble 2008, WrestleMania I, ect).

And no more HHH vs Benoit :(

EDIT - Nevermind, seems to be working now. Looks like my cpu just needed a restart.

I don't think they're ever going to delete anything. I'm in the middle of making a 300k archive of what's available (anything not in 750k) as there's tons of stuff, and the quality doesn't bother me at all so as I'm paying $39.95 per year then I may as well watch what else is there. (Have been naughty and watched about 10 Benoit matches so far  :o )
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on October 24, 2010, 09:19:22 AM
I had a dream that they updated a week early with nothing but Goldust matches.

I almost went to look for the new Superstars episodes this morning...
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on October 24, 2010, 09:44:00 AM
Well, it looks like the wweclassics.com folks have been working overtime wiping out all the content off their servers that is not posted on their page.

No more monthly exclusive content (unless they purposely left it on their page ala Royal Rumble 2008, WrestleMania I, ect).

And no more HHH vs Benoit :(

EDIT - Nevermind, seems to be working now. Looks like my cpu just needed a restart.

I don't think they're ever going to delete anything. I'm in the middle of making a 300k archive of what's available (anything not in 750k) as there's tons of stuff, and the quality doesn't bother me at all so as I'm paying $39.95 per year then I may as well watch what else is there. (Have been naughty and watched about 10 Benoit matches so far  :o )

I'd be interested in seeing that archive when it's done. I have a hankering to see the Benoit/HHH/HBK WM XX match and the Smackdown Rumble.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on October 24, 2010, 10:29:10 AM
I'd be interested in seeing that archive when it's done. I have a hankering to see the Benoit/HHH/HBK WM XX match and the Smackdown Rumble.

Have found those two:

2004 1-29 15-Man Royal Rumble - Smackdown
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092004/DRM-juke_09_2004_17300.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/092004/DRM-juke_09_2004_17300.wmv)

2004 3-14 World Heavyweight Championship - Triple H vs. Chris Benoit vs. Shawn Michaels - WrestleMania XX
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112004/DRM-novjuke_18_300.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112004/DRM-novjuke_18_300.wmv)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on October 24, 2010, 10:51:35 AM
Beautiful, thanks.

*Holding my breath for Survivor Series 1995 being added on Nov 1*
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on October 25, 2010, 08:17:43 PM
Have finished the 300k list of archived videos (is attached as a .txt file)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on October 27, 2010, 03:07:47 AM
From Classics.com Staff:

"We are working on adding another series to WWEClassics.com in 2011. It's not from WWE or WCW/NWA. We're really looking forward to it! Hopefully that doesn't change!"
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on October 27, 2010, 03:17:21 AM
They have a pretty big hard on for World Class so that would be my guess.

Also, it'll be interesting to see if they really got Randy Savage to do an Introducing interview.

I see Classics has jumped all over your request Venk. Didn't see the Bryan/Ziggles Raw match but the BR match was outstanding.

Appreciate the .txt file Landy. Forgot how much Superclash III content was on the old era of Legacy.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on October 31, 2010, 12:11:41 PM
I'm trying to think of why almost a minute of commentary (4:40 to 5:30) from the Rey/Morrison match would need to be muted. It's from 2009 so obviously they're not saying "WWF" or talking about upcoming Chris Benoit matches. Maybe it was MNTV references but I'm sure those are in the Champion of Champions match from 2008.

Edit: More dropped commentary around 10:30, but a MNTV reference at 14:10. I'm stumped.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on October 31, 2010, 07:26:52 PM
John Morrison Vs Rey Mysterio Part 1 (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xae59k)

Looks like they were showing shots of Ziggler watching the match from the back, I'm guessing they thought it would ruin the flow of the match? I'm pretty sure this was on a recent DVD release, which is the version used on Classics.com, so they haven't edited it themselves
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on November 01, 2010, 12:11:09 AM
I see. I'm guessing it was on the Morrison DVD?

Fake edit: Yes, yes it was.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on November 01, 2010, 01:01:00 AM
So work once again put the kabosh on wwe.com due to it being a "streaming site". If someone could plop the notables from the November update once it's posted, it'd be much appreciated.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on November 01, 2010, 08:29:57 AM
Nothing yet.

landy: Do they even have secret links up yet?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on November 01, 2010, 08:38:21 AM
Just got home from work myself so just gonna have another check now. They said they won't be ready until Raw starts (which is 1am here) so hopefully I'll find a few now
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on November 01, 2010, 08:44:44 AM
Ah, I see they just posted about that. I like how outraged those people were getting that adding one or two recent things somehow negates the ENTIRE service.

"Next month is decades of classics.  You'll see one video from each year (1980-2010). It should make for a fun month!"
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on November 01, 2010, 09:25:35 AM
They are starting to be uploaded now (Raw 136 doesn't seem to work yet)

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_ppv_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_ppv_750.wmv) (Survivor Series 97)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_hv_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_hv_750.wmv) (Villains of the Squared Circle Coliseum video)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_intro_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_intro_750.wmv) (Introducing - KEN PATERA - not who we hoped!)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_ic41_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_ic41_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_superstars281_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_superstars281_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_superstars282_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_superstars282_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_raw136_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_raw136_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_raw137_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_raw137_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_challenge105_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_challenge105_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_challenge106_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_challenge106_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_wcwsn1290_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_wcwsn1290_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_wcwsn1291_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_wcwsn1291_750.wmv)

EDIT - looks like the Raw ep is working now. Introducing with Patera actually looks good as it has Bruno vs. Patera from MSG January 1977 which I've never seen before
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: DMann1979 on November 01, 2010, 09:27:28 AM
Figures the one RAW I'm wanting to see (Post Survivor Series, Diesel's tweener shoot, Michaels collapse) isn't working yet.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on November 01, 2010, 09:59:10 AM
Individual matches (hopefully they'll keep this easy to find format for future uploads!)

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_01_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_01_750.wmv) (Piper's Pit with Snuka - 1984)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_02_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_02_750.wmv) (Masked Championship Robbery in Florida)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_03_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_03_750.wmv) (Jake Roberts & Gino Hernandez vs. Kevin Von Erich & Chris Adams
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_04_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_04_750.wmv) (Dusty Rhodes run-in with the Four Horsemen)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_05_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_05_750.wmv) (The Mulkey Brothers win)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_06_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_06_750.wmv) (Superclash II main event)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_07_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_07_750.wmv) (Lex Luger faces a huge ultimatum)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_08_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_08_750.wmv) (The Four Horsemen give Sting a surprise)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_09_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_09_750.wmv) (Barber Shop - Rockers breakup)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_10_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_10_750.wmv) (Hulk Hogan vs. the Giant - Hallowen Havoc 95)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_11_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_11_750.wmv) (HHH vs. Shawn Michaels - Raw Dec 97)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_12_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_12_750.wmv) (Rick Rude on Raw & Nitro)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_13_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_13_750.wmv) (Steiner Brothers vs. Outsiders - Superbrawl VIII)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_14_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_14_750.wmv) (X-Pac vs. Shane McMahon - Wrestlemania 15)

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_16_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_16_750.wmv) (The return of Hulkamania? - WCW Summer 1999)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_17_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_17_750.wmv) (The return of DX? - Raw July 2002)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_18_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_18_750.wmv) (Brock Lesnar vs. Big Show - Survivor Series 2002)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_19_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_19_750.wmv) (The Rock vs. Hulk Hogan - No Way Out 2003)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_20_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_20_750.wmv) (Randy Orton vs. Mick Foley - Raw Dec 2003)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_21_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_21_750.wmv) (Batista leaves Evolution - Raw 2005)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_22_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_22_750.wmv) (Edge vs. Kane - Raw 2005)

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_24_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_24_750.wmv) (Rob Van Dam vs. Big Show - ECW July 2006)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_25_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_25_750.wmv) (Rey Mysterio vs. King Booker (Great American Bash 2006)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_26_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_26_750.wmv) (Cody Rhodes & Hardcore Holly vs. Ted DiBiase & ?) (Night of Champions 2008)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_27_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_27_750.wmv) (Edge vs. Jeff Hardy - Royal Rumble 2009)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_28_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_28_750.wmv) (The Dirt Sheet Done? - Miz vs. Kofi Kingston - Raw 2009)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_29_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_29_750.wmv) (Undertaker vs. CM Punk - Breaking Point 2009)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_30_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/112010/drm-nov2010_30_750.wmv) (Rise of NEXUS - John Cena vs. CM Punk) (Raw 2010)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on November 01, 2010, 10:07:13 AM
Very nice work Landy. And a big yay to the Lesnar/Show SurSer 02 match being added.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on November 02, 2010, 02:14:38 AM
Hey it's former WCW and New ECW referee Mickey Jay competing against Rick Martel! Vince keeps calling him "Mike".
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: alkeiper on November 02, 2010, 04:39:59 AM
Checking out the Villains of the Squared Circle set.  Monsoon tells Ladd that Miguel Perez has a son who is wrestling now.  That son ended up of course as one of Los Boriquas.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on November 04, 2010, 11:52:52 AM
Yo Venk . . . so other than 1992, which Starrcades have COD aired so far? December's ppv will be a Starrcade.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on November 04, 2010, 12:48:17 PM
A few from the 80s but they've kind of blended together in my memory.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on November 07, 2010, 02:33:08 AM
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KLASSICV W W F IS ROCK VS AUSTIN AT WRESTLA MAINIA OKAY NO RIK FLAIR **** ONLE STONE COLD STEVE ASUSTIN BEST RWRSTLER/ACTOR EVWR KNOW DIS DONT DENY DIS IS TRUTH **** ALL U FAND OF RIK FLAIR DIE ALL U ****Z

And that's why Classics only visits the forum a couple times a month.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on November 07, 2010, 08:00:32 AM
Iron Sheik posts there now?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on November 08, 2010, 06:22:58 AM
Someone asked about 16:9 video again:

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For the last 6-9 months we've been informed that the plans are to update WWEClassics.com in widescreen and higher resolution. Current HD footage from 2008-current and original series would be in HD while past footage would have wings that are non-intrusive. Personally coming from someone who is not a fan on wings that are distracting for non-HD footage I believe we picked the best option for what would be on the side for standard definition video. Trust us when we say this, having black or white bars on the side would be a much larger distraction than what we have planned. No timetable is set but I'd be shocked if we didn't offer this updated video by mid 2011 if not earlier.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Paperback Ryback on November 08, 2010, 06:44:59 AM
Have they ever mentioned doing the same for 24/7, or atleast having a separate high resolution/HD section like certain networks do? Because the old standard footage looks terrible on a widescreen HD television.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on November 13, 2010, 12:27:37 PM
With Tito doing Spanish commentary and Ray Rougeau doing French commentary, don't you wish a commentary brawl would just break out?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: alkeiper on November 13, 2010, 12:35:44 PM
With Tito doing Spanish commentary and Ray Rougeau doing French commentary, don't you wish a commentary brawl would just break out?
And heck, the elder Rougeau was a hell of a wrestler in his own time.  And Sanovich (sp?) was a hated heel manager in Puerto Rico.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on November 13, 2010, 12:45:06 PM
I was completely unaware of Hugo's wrestling past until I watched the Jake Roberts DVD.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on November 15, 2010, 12:05:27 PM
BENOIT ALERT ---- BENOIT ALER ---- BENOIT ALERT!!!

During the Mysterio/Orton match posted in October, Cole makes mention of Orton defeating Chris Benoit to become the youngest World Champion in history.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on November 16, 2010, 03:34:23 AM
Consulted the archive today. I'm running through Survivor Series and have no idea where my 2003 DVD is. I was 100% sure I had seen the Team Austin vs. Team Bischoff (well, Team Michaels vs. Team Orton) 5 on 5 on the service before but searches in the Survivor Series, 2003, and Shawn Michaels sub-sections yielded no results. Glad I found it in the archive.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on November 16, 2010, 03:50:39 AM
Forgot how much Shawn bled in this match.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on November 16, 2010, 03:55:03 AM
Yeah, it was pretty sick nasty.

I see they're pretty proud of themselves for taping enough "Introducing" segments to last them into 2012.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on November 16, 2010, 03:57:06 AM
That means they can do Introducing Tatanka next month and have his debut match up twice!
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on November 16, 2010, 03:52:24 PM
Personal DVD Update: As I watch Series 2004, I realize 2003 is in a blue box that says "2003" with a mural of wrestlers formed by DVD spines. Somehow I forgot I had that box. Oh well, I watched the best match on Classics.com.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on November 16, 2010, 10:26:47 PM
Glad the archive could help.

*Thumbs up*
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on November 25, 2010, 02:16:56 AM
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since December is Christmas anyway to fit introducing santa claus
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on November 29, 2010, 08:34:38 AM
Secret early update!!

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_ppv_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_ppv_750.wmv) (Starrcade 87)

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_hv_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_hv_750.wmv) (Ricky Steamboat Coliseum Video)

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_ic42_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_ic42_750.wmv) (Legacy of IC Title)

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_raw138_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_raw138_750.wmv) (Raw 12/4/95)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_raw139_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_raw139_750.wmv) (Raw 12/11/95)

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_wcwsn1292_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_wcwsn1292_750.wmv) (Saturday Night 12/9/95)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_wcwsn1293_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_wcwsn1293_750.wmv) (Saturday Night 12/16/95)

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_superstars283_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_superstars283_750.wmv) (Superstars 2/1/92)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_superstars284_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_superstars284_750.wmv) (Superstars 2/8/92)

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_challenge107_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_challenge107_750.wmv) (Challenge 9/18/88)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_challenge108_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_challenge108_750.wmv) (Challenge 9/25/88)

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_01_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_01_750.wmv) (Bruno Sammartino vs. Larry Zbyszko - Showdown at Shea 1980)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_02_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_02_750.wmv) (Don Muraco vs. Pedro Morales - MSG 1981)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_04_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_04_750.wmv) (Ric Flair vs. Harley Race - 1983)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_06_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_06_750.wmv) (Hulk Hogan vs. Roddy Piper - MSG 1985)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_07_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_07_750.wmv) (Ric Flair vs. Dusty Rhodes - GAB 1986)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_10_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_10_750.wmv) (Ric Flair vs. Ricky Steamboat - WrestleWar 1989)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_13_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_13_750.wmv) (Ron Simmons vs. Vader - 1992)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_14_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_14_750.wmv) (Hollywood Blondes vs. Ric Flair & Arn Anderson - Clash 1993)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_15_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_15_750.wmv) (Bret Hart vs. Yokozuna - WrestleMania X - 1994)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_16_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_16_750.wmv) (Eddie Guerrero vs. Dean Malenko - ECW 1995)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_17_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_17_750.wmv) (Undertaker vs. Mankind - KOTR 1996)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_19_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_19_750.wmv) (The Rock vs. Triple H - Fully Loaded 1998)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_20_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_20_750.wmv) (Rob Van Dam vs. Jerry Lynn - ECW 1999)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_21_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_21_750.wmv) (TLC - SummerSlam 2000)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_22_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_22_750.wmv) (Final WCW Nitro episode - 2001)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_24_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_24_750.wmv) (Brock Lesnar vs. Kurt Angle - WrestleMania XIX - 2003)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_25_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_25_750.wmv) (Randy Orton vs. Mick Foley - Backlash 2004)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_26_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_26_750.wmv) (Shawn Michaels vs. Kurt Angle - Raw 2005)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_27_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_27_750.wmv) (Triple H vs. John Cena - WrestleMania 22 - 2006)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_28_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_28_750.wmv) (Shawn Michaels vs. John Cena vs. Randy Orton vs. Edge - Backlash 2007)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_29_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/122010/drm-dec2010_29_750.wmv) (Triple H vs. Randy Orton - Judgment Day 2008)



Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on November 29, 2010, 10:17:28 AM
Thanks for the links. Looks like they weren't shy about recycling content. But I was pleasantly surprised to see the Flair/AA vs Blondes match include Ventura's commentary. Foley/Orton & the last Nitro are other highlights. I'm also loving these Coliseum Video additions.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on December 01, 2010, 04:00:30 PM
Coliseum Home Video - Best of Ricky Steamboat
December 1, 2010   |   Approx. run time: 67 mins.
Simply put, you can’t trust Chavo Guerrero. Rey Mysterio unfortunately learned the hard way. See how King Booker became a six-time six-time six -time six-time six-time six-time World Heavyweight Champion.

Didn't realize Chavo played such a big role in this tape.

Shawn's retirement speech is the 2010 video. It's labelled dec2010_bonus.

"The WCW Television Championship is on the line as Disco Inferno earns a title opportunity for consecutive losses against local talent.". Nice.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on December 02, 2010, 03:12:58 AM
I was surprised to see the 2/1 Superstars advertise Marty Jannetty for the 2/8 episode, but as I expected, Marty was nowhere to be seen on that episode.

I was sad to hear hype for a LOD vs. Beverly Brothers SNME match that never happened.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on December 02, 2010, 03:44:48 AM
That's because Hawk and Animal are nothing but sissies.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: alkeiper on December 07, 2010, 11:15:43 PM
Checking out Starrcade '87.  Love to see how they proclaim the arena is "Jam PACKED!" when the lower deck looks deserted. 
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: alkeiper on December 09, 2010, 03:39:43 AM
All in all though, Starrcade '87 is a really solid PPV.  It won't blow you away with one single great match, but every match is good in its own way from top to bottom.  Hot crowd throughout, though they really hosed the fans with the tag title debacle.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on December 17, 2010, 12:15:33 PM
Was just going through the vids posted in November. King Booker's entrance for this World Title match against Mysterio is epically grand. JBL was phenominal in his verbal blowjob for the King for the entire five minutes the entrance lasted . . . FIVE MINUTES!

Also, it looks like there is a ban on chairshots to the head as there is now a quick cutaway or freeze frame for chair shots to the noggin.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on December 17, 2010, 12:27:47 PM
I noticed that with Survivor Series 97. That's how they air Vintage Collection too. Or did in 2009, I haven't noticed it at all since the first few episodes Canada got (it was a freeze frame for ANY weapons shot to any body part).
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on December 17, 2010, 12:36:29 PM
I noticed that even Owen choking Austin was too extreme for Classics. Anyone know why they cut the Team Canada promo short before the Canada/US tag match?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on December 26, 2010, 10:52:51 AM
All in all though, Starrcade '87 is a really solid PPV.  It won't blow you away with one single great match, but every match is good in its own way from top to bottom.  Hot crowd throughout, though they really hosed the fans with the tag title debacle.

Just watched it also and agree although I really hated how as soon as Williams/Windham picked up a bit, the groin shot occured which grinded the match to a halt. Really disappointed in that match.

I remembered Koloff/Taylor being more of a squash (perhaps from watching the home video version) but it seemed like TT was treated with a little more credibility on the full version.

It was funny how the fans didn't really bite on the 3-count to end the tag title match thinking something screwy was up. Then Hebner gave LOD the belts and that's when the fans went apeshit. Of course Tommy Young turned the tables but I thought it was interesting the fans were somewhat skeptical.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on December 29, 2010, 06:32:47 PM
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Hey WWE Universe,

As you saw on the front page of WWEUniverse.com, this website will be closing doors in 2011. While we personally here at WWEClassics.com were not involved with the creation of this site, we have found it very useful throughout the last 30 months to communicate with each and every one of you.

It also goes without saying that our community leader at WWE Universe, Corey has gone above and beyond every single day maintaining this website. It was an undertaking the first day the site came into development and he has done an excellent job. Very rarely do we have an opportunity to personally credit someone for their work on the website but it goes without saying he's dedicated his career in making this the best possible resource to communicate about WWE.

In regards to WWEClassics.com, we will continue to maintain our facebook page. In fact, we'll probably be updating it more often now that WWE Universe will be closing down. It is uncertain if we are able to freely communicate on the facebook page like we do on WWE Universe. But it is I, the same person who has been updating you on here for 3 years that will be watching the WWEClassics.com facebook page.

Please feel free to join it and communicate with each other on there.

In 2011 we hope to have significant changes to WWEClassics.com that will really make it the greatest streaming service for sports entertainment. Some of these implements were scheduled to take place last October but we found even more ways to improve upon on it thus the update hasn't taken place. When this update occurs you'll immediately know and we'd love to get your feedback on facebook.

Thanks again for all of your support as loyal subscribers to WWEClassics.com. We hope you have felt like your opinions were heard each and every time you posted on the forums.

Have a happy and healthy New Year!
-WWEClassics.com
http://www.facebook.com/WWEclassics (http://www.facebook.com/WWEclassics)

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Also an update for January videos.  We're going to try and have everything up and running Saturday, January 1st. If for some reason there are bugs with the videos they will then go live on Monday, January 3rd. WWE offices technically are closed that Monday but we want to make sure you have your videos as quickly as possible!

In addition to that, we were told that many are impressed with our hard digging for January matches.

However that's nothing for February:
-Texas Sized Classics! Twenty matches will take place with Texan's while the other ten videos will be in Texas. We really considered using video from last weeks Raw or the Evan Bourne/John Cena vs. Sheamus/Edge match because the crowds there were outstanding. We have some very fun stuff regardless including a meeting between two Hall of Famers that we bet you never knew competed against each other.
We might also have a special studio show to coincide with that month
Finally, without giving it away, we will add another TV series to WWEClassics.com. Basically look at that months theme and you'll probably figure it out.

-March is 1986 looking back at 25 years ago. Our big PPV will be WrestleMania 2 as I think many of you guessed. Our Coliseum Home Video will look at the Big Event.
The full length episodes for the month will be varied. We'll have SNME, TNT, Challenge and World Championship Wrestling full episodes from 1986 to go along with the theme.
We also have an interview with Koko B. Ware discussing his debut in WWE which happened to be 1986.

April will be our Hall of Fame month. We don't know who is going to be in the hall yet but we'll find some classic matches from all of them.

In other notes: Our Legacy of the Intercontinental Championship Series will have a 4-month special:
In February: Texan's whom have held the Intercontinental Championship.
In March: IC Title Matches from 1986. It's basically a showcase on Randy Savage.
In April: Hall of Famers who have held the Intercontinental Championship
In May: Latino Legends whom held the title.
In June: We would continue the series as we regularly were. It is hopes that the Raw which featured a one night tournament would be blurred and able to used for our show.

Any other questions before we can't answer on here? :)

I'm guessing World Class is the new show? The next few months look pretty good though
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on December 30, 2010, 12:25:36 AM
I read about the forums closing and somehow never made the connection that it included the Classics forum.

I'm happy they are using the idea I pitched regarding the IC Legacy series (well, sort of - I said they should include the tournament that Shamrock won and Classics on Demand should have it blurred eventually).
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on December 30, 2010, 01:45:50 AM
I'm very late with this but:

Quote from: Classics.com
This program was pulled from a pre-edited version of the show that aired on most likely Classics on Demand. No edits were done by WWEClassics.com but if we find out who produce that episode, we'll ask!

I don't recall ever seeing the final Nitro on CoD. That doesn't mean it didn't air there, but I don't remember. Starrcade 2000 was just on too, and Rey was doing his thing without a mask.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: alkeiper on December 30, 2010, 02:02:00 AM
Watched World Class when I had COD.  Its a terrific show.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on December 30, 2010, 09:25:34 AM
I'm very late with this but:

Quote from: Classics.com
This program was pulled from a pre-edited version of the show that aired on most likely Classics on Demand. No edits were done by WWEClassics.com but if we find out who produce that episode, we'll ask!

I don't recall ever seeing the final Nitro on CoD. That doesn't mean it didn't air there, but I don't remember. Starrcade 2000 was just on too, and Rey was doing his thing without a mask.

It definitely aired on 24/7 at some point as I have it on DVD somewhere, and it was not edited like the Classics.com version
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on December 30, 2010, 09:40:14 AM
I meant to clarify that I could only judge from September 2006 on, and after 4 years and repeated themes, it blurs together (then of course there's the very good chance it just never showed up on my system).
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on December 30, 2010, 10:28:09 AM
I hope this means we'll finally get This Tuesday in Texas in February.

Also, the 9/17/88 ep of Wrestling Challenge is quite legendary. EIGHT squashes! 8 of them on a 43 minute show. Mercy me!
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on January 01, 2011, 10:54:51 AM
So I guess the update won't be until Monday after all. I couldn't even find secret links.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on January 01, 2011, 11:16:53 AM
Me neither. Tried capitalizing some letters, leaving 122010 in, ect, and no luck. I'd have been pretty surprised if they actually did update today considering it's Saturday and New Year's Day.

EDIT - Looks like they're updating the page but none of the links work at the moment other than the Intro Slaughter video which has a December link.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on January 01, 2011, 12:41:27 PM
Let's go ask about it on the fou... right.

I like when they re-post matches and don't change the description, leaving in a reference to a previous theme. I also think that Storm shout-out was pretty cool of them.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on January 01, 2011, 03:41:43 PM
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Cody Drennen You guys updating today or waiting until Monday

WWEClassics.com Hopefully Sunday or early Monday!
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: alkeiper on January 02, 2011, 02:43:01 AM
Looks like they've started updated.  Edge's first IC title win from 1999 is up there!
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on January 02, 2011, 02:57:48 AM
They added more matches to the list too, and fixed the second Undertaker vs. Batista to say Cena vs. Jericho... but it still says Jericho/Eddie vs. Chavo/Malenko is from a 2005 Nitro.

I see Regal/Tajiri vs. La Resistance from Japan is there, glad to see that. The 1997 Funk/Bret match recently aired on CoD but I imagine has been rarely seen otherwise, so kudos to that too.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: alkeiper on January 02, 2011, 03:41:47 AM
"Also an unlikely superstar aligns himself with the WWE Universe for the first time ever."

Or turned face.  Whatever terminology you prefer.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on January 02, 2011, 07:35:03 AM
Are these links working for everyone? The links still don't work for me.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on January 02, 2011, 07:52:27 AM
Just tried Superstars - nothing yet.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on January 03, 2011, 06:16:15 AM
Looks like a couple of angry customers on the WWEClassics facebook page.

And I was just reminded of last January. Yeah, that was no fun in the sun.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on January 03, 2011, 09:37:32 AM
Looks like the videos are starting to work now finally! :)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on January 03, 2011, 10:47:08 AM
WWEClassics.com As a special thank you to all of our subscribers, WWEClassics.com will post a second full length pay-per-view this week! Stay tuned for more details.

Sounds like an apology if you ask me, but I'll take it.

Edit: Oh, they took away the Savage Coliseum Video for some reason.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on January 03, 2011, 10:51:44 AM
Anyone want to moan to Classics that the Macho Man CV still doesn't work?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on January 03, 2011, 10:52:21 AM
I'll ask why they removed the link entirely, yes.

I'm guessing none of these people are CoD subscribers with a cable company that doesn't update properly if they get this upset over stuff.

Edit: "It will be added along with the addition pay-per-view this week."
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on January 03, 2011, 11:24:54 AM
Thanks Venk. I don't have Facebook and I'm not going to sign up just to bug Classics. Though I did become a member of the WWE Universe to do it.

Updated the archive.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on January 03, 2011, 11:34:16 AM
It's funny watching the build up to Mania VIII and how big a deal the DOUBLE MAIN EVENT! concept was - big enough that apparently the very idea that Hogan loses his title shot for no reason and Sid, whose entire beef with Hogan was that he wanted the title shot and Hogan got it, is fine and dandy with it too.

I remember really buying into the concept back then too, and it's a bit amusing to consider that this show set a precedent. Of course, now WrestleMania has like, 5 "main events", but even the rest of the PPVs in 1992 were double main events. Bulldog/Bret and Savage/Warrior, Perfect & Savage/Flair & Ramon and Shawn/Bret. The only Mania shows since then that only heavily promoted one match as the main event I believe would be XII and XIV-2000 (though it could be argued Kane/Taker had a main event push behind it, and I even recall rumours it would go on last... and X-7 I'm sadly considering McMahon vs. McMahon a main event).

I like that you can still hear a little bit of Rhapsody in Blue for the Shawn Michaels match.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on January 03, 2011, 01:43:35 PM
Virgil's Event Center promo on the 2/22 Superstars is awesome. First he says he's going to start 1992 (despite it now almost being March) the same way he ended 1991 (not being the Million Dollar champion?). Then he declares the Repo Man as his top target, because only ONE MAN he knows wears a mask - Batman. Or The Lone Ranger. But also the Repo Man, because he sneaks around (this point made twice) trying to act tough, but you know what, Virgil is right there if you want a fight, Repo Man (which you don't, hence your sneaking around)!
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on January 04, 2011, 12:34:21 AM
I can't believe on the Challenge 10/1/88 episode they cut out the One Man Gang transformation to Akeem segment! I'm guessing the dreaded music issues was the reason? Although I'm sure it aired on Prime Time on Classics on Demand a few months back.
I've noticed they've also started cutting out whenever Ron Bass chokes out his opponent with Miss Betsy, I guess so the kids won't copy something from 22 years ago?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on January 04, 2011, 02:02:03 AM
The segment did indeed air on PTW. It was hilarious.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on January 04, 2011, 08:08:56 AM
Hey WWE Universe, big news in regards to WWEClassics.com! We're looking to get 10,000 people to like "WWEClassics.com" on facebook. Once we hit that benchmark, we'll offer an additional bonus episode of Wrestling Challenge or WWE Superstars the following month. You don't have to subscribe to the service to be a fan! So have your friends like "WWEClassics.com".
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on January 04, 2011, 08:10:38 AM
I love that it's one episode of Challenge "or" Superstars.

That said, I may bug some of my office mates to put down a like for WWEClassics.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on January 05, 2011, 12:05:17 PM
Jason Lubrant writes "What are the odds of the 2004 Royal Rumble being the additional PPV?"

I'd say the same odds of Classics getting 10,000 likes with 7,551 likes to go.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on January 05, 2011, 12:13:21 PM
I'd put money on it being a re-airing of Canadian Stampede.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on January 05, 2011, 12:30:12 PM
They said it would be another Royal Rumble ppv. They could reair Rumble 2008 even though it's still on the Rumble page.

I'll place my guess for 1998 as long as they're willing to edit the dueling chairshots between Foley & Funk.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on January 06, 2011, 10:08:52 AM
Super secret bonus ppv is up . . . and it's Royal Rumble 2009 *groans* . . . at least it has Jim Duggan running wild *Yay!*

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/012011/drm-jan2011_bonus_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/012011/drm-jan2011_bonus_750.wmv)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on January 06, 2011, 01:53:18 PM
Rumble 2009 rules! I'm going to look for me and cap it.

Edit: Ooooh, I just remembered they use the 4:3 version. I know from watching on DVD (which I guess I could cap too) I'm only every on screen in 16:9.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: hurrifan123 on January 21, 2011, 07:10:04 PM
Hey guys I was on the WWE Universe forums and randomly found this site! Hope you don't mind me joining and chatting.

Personally I love WWEClassics.com. As odd as it sounds, I think the WWEClassics.com guy/girl on WWE Universe is main reason I keep on subscribing. He/She seemed so devoted to the service that I wanted to support it especially at only $4 a month.

I consider WWEClassics.com like the Evan Bourne of WWE. So close to succeeding but something always getting in the way and then eventually feeling bad because of it. You can almost feel like the classics guy really wants the service to be the best ever but for some reason there's red tape always stopping it.

By the way my classics example used to be The Hurricane instead of Evan Bourne but clearly from his podcasts, Hurricane is simply a lost cause.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on January 26, 2011, 03:48:42 PM
From Facebook:

Have you caught up on our exclusive WWEClassics.com series "Introducing"? Tomorrow, weather permitting (WWE Headquarters is getting another blizzard!) we're going to interview a WWE Hall of Famer for the show. We've been trying to interview this legend for more than two years! If we get the interview we'll keep you posted with hints!
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on January 27, 2011, 08:24:50 AM
A couple months late but I'll take it:

Quote
A preview for February's WWEClassics.com schedule: We'll be airing "This Tuesday in Texas" full pay-per-view event!
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on January 31, 2011, 08:13:41 AM
Early update (well they will probably update their page tonight or tomorrow). Will post the links shortly but one real hidden gem they are airing is Savage vs. Steamboat from Houston, TX 5/15/87 (to my knowledge this match has never been seen before either)


http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_ppv_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_ppv_750.wmv) (Tuesday in Texas)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_hv_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_hv_750.wmv) ('Cause Stone Cold Said So)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_ic44_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_ic44_750.wmv) (History of IC Title)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_intro_duggan_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_intro_duggan_750.wmv) (Introducing Jim Duggan - Duggan vs Frank Savage from Spectrum 1/10/81)

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_challenge111_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_challenge111_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_challenge112_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_challenge112_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_superstars287_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_superstars287_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_superstars288_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_superstars288_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_raw142_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_raw142_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_raw143_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_raw143_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_wcwsn1297_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_wcwsn1297_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_wcwsn1298_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_wcwsn1298_750.wmv)

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_01_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_01_750.wmv) (Bruno Sammartino vs. Stan Hansen - Cage Match - MSG 8/7/76)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_02_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_02_750.wmv) (Kevin Von Erich vs. Johnny Rodz - MSG 1/21/80)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_04_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_04_750.wmv) (Andre the Giant vs Blackjack Mulligan - MSG 6/5/82)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_05_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_05_750.wmv) (Wahoo McDaniel & Mark Youngblood vs. Bob Orton Jr. & Dick Slater - NWA)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_06_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_06_750.wmv) (Barry Windham & Ron Garvin vs. Ivan Koloff & Dick Murdoch - NWA)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_07_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_07_750.wmv) (Mike Rotundo vs. Dory Funk Jr. - NWA)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_08_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_08_750.wmv) (Sting & Dusty Rhodes vs. Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard - Clash of Champions II - 6/8/88)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_09_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_09_750.wmv) (Terry Funk vs. Eddie Guerrero - WCW 1989)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_10_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_10_750.wmv) (Undertaker vs. Texas Tornado - Wrestling Challenge 11/10/91)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_12_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_12_750.wmv) (Jake Roberts vs. Justin Hawk Bradshaw - Superstars 6/15/96)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_13_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_13_750.wmv) (Harlem Heat vs. Outsiders - Halloween Havoc 1996)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_14_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_14_750.wmv) (DDP vs. Eddie Guerrero - Starrcade 1996)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_15_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_15_750.wmv) (Shawn Michaels vs. Steve Austin - King of the Ring 1997)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_17_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_17_750.wmv) (Eddie Guerrero vs. Chavo Guerrero Jr. - Great American Bash 1998)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_18_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_18_750.wmv) (Goldberg vs. Mark Henry - Raw 2003)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_20_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_20_750.wmv) (Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels - WrestleMania 26)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_21_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_21_750.wmv) (Randy Savage vs. Ricky Steamboat - Sam Houston Coliseum 5/16/87)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_23_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_23_750.wmv) (Ted DiBiase vs. Jim Duggan - Sam Houston Coliseum 8/28/87)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_25_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_25_750.wmv) (Ric Flair, Arn Anderson & Ole Anderson vs. Great Muta, Buzz Sawyer & Dragon Master - Clash of Champions X 2/6/90)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_26_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_26_750.wmv) (Ric Flair vs. Mr. Perfect - Coliseum Video - Beaumont, TX 1/4/93)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_27_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_27_750.wmv) (Chris Jericho vs. Super Calo - Nitro 1998)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_28_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_28_750.wmv) (Hardcore Battle Royal - WCW Saturday Night 1999/2000?)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_29_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_29_750.wmv) (TLC II - WrestleMania X-Seven)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_30_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/022011/drm-feb2011_30_750.wmv) (John Cena vs. Rob Van Dam - Smackdown 2004)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: alkeiper on January 31, 2011, 08:47:29 AM
Sammartino vs. Hansen. YES!
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on January 31, 2011, 10:47:03 AM
I've never seen the Flair/Hennig Coliseum Video match (most of my local video stores stopped getting the non-PPV ones by that time, or just very few) but I wouldn't be entirely shocked to find out it's punch punch chop chop headlock headlock face comeback Perfectplex match over. That's just the way Coliseum Video would be sometimes.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on January 31, 2011, 11:55:22 AM
Sean Mooney: "Watching the Berzerker in action is like watching a caveman make soup! Don't ask me to explain that one".

Uh, sure thing Mooney.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: alkeiper on January 31, 2011, 12:00:31 PM
I liked the Sammartino/Hansen cage match. Somewhat formulaic but it works. Hansen bumps all over the place and shows his ass a little too often for comfort (thank god for pixilation). I liked Hansen's tendency to load his elbowpad for the lariat coming into play, and Sammartino destroying Hansen when he got ahold of that elbowpad. And the best part of WWE 1970s cage matches: decisive finishes. I know a lot of people hate the escape rule but when Bruno leaves his opponent in a bloody heap, its a great end to a feud.

The crowd as well was red hot from the start.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on January 31, 2011, 12:08:54 PM
Don't forget WCCW, Landy!

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/video/jukebox/16705978/16905410/drm-feb2011_wccw1_?view=wvx&speed=750 (http://www.wwe.com/content/media/video/jukebox/16705978/16905410/drm-feb2011_wccw1_?view=wvx&speed=750)

WCCW 10/12/1982 *Full Episode Debut on WWEClassics.com*
October 12, 1982   |   Approx. run time: 53 mins.

WWE Classics on Demand has been kind enough to allow WWEClassics.com to air each month full episodes from World Class Championship Wrestling. We begin this legendary journey in Texas with Michael Hayes’ WCCW debut. In addition to the full show, WWE Hall of Famer, Kevin Von Erich and WWE Legend, Michael Hayes give exclusive introductions to this episode. Stay tuned each month as WWEClassics.com airs 1-2 additional episodes.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: DMann1979 on January 31, 2011, 12:18:53 PM
Is that the RAW where Vader attacks Monsoon?  I know it's the one after Royal Rumble.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on January 31, 2011, 12:22:05 PM
Last Raw before the Rumble. Main event: "Finally, The Undertaker battles the evil dentist, Isaac Yankem.".

Tito Santana has a weird Event Center promo on Superstars where he just rants about how The Million Dollar Man knows El Matador is not to be messed with (I'm not sure why he knows this), Shawn Michaels is not his friend anymore, and "You've got Sherri with you. She used to be the the Million Dollar Man. I don't know what that's all about". Oh, face powder SID! is in the intro now!

These two episodes have some classic angles going on, but I expect no less in episodes building to a WrestleMania.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: hurrifan123 on January 31, 2011, 04:58:03 PM
Pretty nice variety this month! Ever since late Fall the service has greatly improved with amount of footage.  If only they went and archived the stuff. I guess they felt they can make more money slowly archiving it huh?

Is next month 1986 AKA WrestleMania 2? I hope they have some good stuff from TNT and SNME on there.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on February 01, 2011, 03:47:02 AM
You may find this link helpful . . . just keep it on the low-low
http://mm831.angelfire.com/WWECLASSICS.com.txt (http://mm831.angelfire.com/WWECLASSICS.com.txt)

I bet Dave Burkhead, Adrian Byrd, & Rick Fuller never thought they'd be immortalized on wweclassics.com
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Bernie Bro Kamala on February 01, 2011, 04:46:19 AM
I took a piss next to Rick Fuller once before a rasslin show at the armory up the street! True story!
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on February 01, 2011, 05:58:31 AM
Did you peek?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Bernie Bro Kamala on February 01, 2011, 07:23:20 AM
Well, hey, I don't know the next time I'm going to have the opportunity to see the penis of somebody in WCW/nWo Thunder.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on February 02, 2011, 09:14:45 AM
Looks like they're thinking about having an all 1970s month. Thank heavens for the first time, Facebook users have echoed my sentiments that having all 1970s matches for a month are overkill.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: alkeiper on February 02, 2011, 09:42:13 AM
Looks like they're thinking about having an all 1970s month. Thank heavens for the first time, Facebook users have echoed my sentiments that having all 1970s matches for a month are overkill.
Jerk
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: The ghost of bps21 on February 02, 2011, 09:43:26 AM
An all 70s month would be fucking awesome. 
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on February 02, 2011, 09:59:56 AM
A few 70s matches would be charming but I need a little production value here. Not flickering film of CWF shows over and over and over.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on February 02, 2011, 12:25:33 PM
What if they included some Mike Awesome matches?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on February 02, 2011, 02:04:16 PM
Only if they are in Dolby.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on February 09, 2011, 02:19:35 AM
I like Perfect/Flair but it's classic Coliseum Video "Let's pretend Ric Flair still works here even though Jim Ross is doing the play by play". I liked Heenan sort of mentioning the NWA, noting he knew Flair when he "first started out, when he was setting The South on fire".

Heenan: Your reign was a lot longer Savage, but Flair was jobbed.
Savage: He was what?
Heenan: Jobbed.
Savage: Jobbed?
Heenan: Yeah, uh... he had a lot of flukes, politics with Jack Tunney!


Savage: After a little bit of a reign with that second title, I lost it to the Nature Boy Ric Flair.
Heenan: Well you should have, you deserved to
Savage: No I did NOT deserve to
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on February 09, 2011, 02:30:20 AM
Heenan: *Something about how Bret Hart being a Canadian winning the title in a Canadian town shouldn't count*
Savage: When Ric Flair beat me, it was on the planet Earth and it shouldn't have counted there either.

I love this team.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on February 09, 2011, 02:44:23 AM
Dave Burkhead (who?) keeps hitting people over the head with a chair at the beginning of the WCWSN Hardcore Battle Royal (why am I watching this, and who is Adrian Byrd?) without any whiteflashes or freeze frames.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on February 09, 2011, 03:20:57 AM
They're expendable members of the WWE Universe. I doubt anyone at Classics actually watched that match but I love the fact that someone in their offices thought about using a match from a 2000 episode of Saturday Night.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Bernie Bro Kamala on February 09, 2011, 03:59:33 AM
Isn't my pee buddy Rick Fuller in that match too?


I remember enjoying it as a twelve year old but I also listened to Limp Bizkit then so...

And I'm 99% sure that was the last new match on WCW Saturday Night before it turned into a recap show hosted by Pamela Paulshock and a crankier than usual Larry Zbysko.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: alkeiper on February 09, 2011, 04:23:34 AM
Thoughts on Tuesday In Texas.

Hart/Skinner is a good little match. The Skinner character is overly cartoonish. But considering Steve Keirn's babyface profile in Florida, the WWF really needed to give him a drastic character change to make him work as a heel. I think it was effective.

Savage/Roberts is a SNME type match, nothing special save for Savage's always great injury selling. Jake post-match though is as good as ever playing up his heel persona. It's amazing that they never got another PPV match out of this, as the heat was off the charts.

Bulldog/Warlord was a fair match. Helped to play off Bulldog's strengths but it went on too long.

Tag match was decent enough. I admit I didn't pay full attention.

Hogan/Undertaker was a nice match, well paced and kept heat throughout. Finish worked perfectly.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on February 09, 2011, 04:31:14 AM
Re: Savage/Roberts, this was still when house shows were predominantly the place for blowoffs, no?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: alkeiper on February 09, 2011, 04:46:02 AM
Re: Savage/Roberts, this was still when house shows were predominantly the place for blowoffs, no?
It was. They ran Savage/Roberts and Savage/Duggan vs Undertaker/Roberts around the horn. Then they did Savage/Roberts cage matches in February before abrubtly switching to an Undertaker/Roberts program on television.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on February 09, 2011, 06:26:04 AM
Isn't my pee buddy Rick Fuller in that match too?


I remember enjoying it as a twelve year old but I also listened to Limp Bizkit then so...

And I'm 99% sure that was the last new match on WCW Saturday Night before it turned into a recap show hosted by Pamela Paulshock and a crankier than usual Larry Zbysko.

The Fuller Effect is there. The description for the match says it is from the last new content episode of WCWSN, and it ends with the copyright notice, so yes, last WCWSN match ever. Terrible.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on February 09, 2011, 06:47:29 AM
Plundah on the muthasheep Tonay!
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Bernie Bro Kamala on February 10, 2011, 02:30:31 AM
And it has The Dog! And Screamin' Norman Smiley. It can't be that terrible...


(this episode happened on April 1st, 2000...how fitting)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on February 26, 2011, 08:43:39 AM
Their Twitter account seems a bit more ambitious in giving previews than the facebook page.

http://twitter.com/wweclassicsweb (http://twitter.com/wweclassicsweb)

- Should we re-air WrestleMania 2 or "The Big Event" this March on wweclassics.com? If we get 1000+ followers by Friday we'll air both!
- Over 1,000 followers! Thanks WWE Universe! We'll be good on our word and release WM2 and The Big Event this March.
- Currently we have scheduled Duggan vs. Savage, Harley Race, Sgt. Slaughter and William Regal to air this April on wweclassics.com
- As a special treat, we'll have a full episode of Saturday Night's Main Event, TNT and NWA World Championship Wrestling from '86 this March!
- The Hart Foundation is looking for romance on The Mating Game this March on WWEClassics.com!
- Okay, one more preview for http://www.wweclassics.com (http://www.wweclassics.com) March videos: two matches from 1986 Starrcade will be featured.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on February 28, 2011, 03:50:51 AM
That Hart Foundation mating game sketch is brutal.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on February 28, 2011, 08:16:48 AM
They've updated early (secretly) for anyone who wants to watch some vids tonight. I'll start posting the links shortly
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on February 28, 2011, 08:53:51 AM
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_ppv_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_ppv_750.wmv) (WrestleMania 2)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_hv_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_hv_750.wmv) (The Big Event - unedited version)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_ic45_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_ic45_750.wmv) (History of IC Title)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_introkoko_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_introkoko_750.wmv) (Introducing Koko B Ware - Koko & Paul Roma vs Hart Foundation - Superstars 9/6/86)

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_wccw2_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_wccw2_750.wmv) (World Class episode 2)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_wcwsn1299_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_wcwsn1299_750.wmv) (Saturday Night 1/27/96)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_wcwsn1300_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_wcwsn1300_750.wmv) (Saturday Night 2/3/96)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_raw144_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_raw144_750.wmv) (Raw 1/22/96)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_raw145_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_raw145_750.wmv) (Raw 1/29/96)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_superstars289_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_superstars289_750.wmv) (Superstars 3/14/92)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_superstars290_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_superstars290_750.wmv) (Superstars 3/21/92) (doesn't work yet)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_challenge113_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_challenge113_750.wmv) (Challenge 10/30/88)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_challenge114_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_challenge114_750.wmv) (Challenge 11/6/88)

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_01_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_01_750.wmv) (Fuji Vice)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_02_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_02_750.wmv) (Rick Rude & One Man Gang vs Bruiser Brody & Missing LInk - WCCW)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_03_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_03_750.wmv) (Don Muraco vs Ricky Steamboat - MSG 2/17/86)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_04_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_04_750.wmv) (Body Shop with Funk Brothers - All Star Wrestling 2/22/86)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_05_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_05_750.wmv) (Shawn Michaels vs. Buddhakhan - AWA)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_06_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_06_750.wmv) (Dusty Rhodes vs Tully Blanchard)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_07_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_07_750.wmv) (Jimmy Hart interviews Mr. T - Chicago 3/15/86)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_08_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_08_750.wmv) (Road Warriors vs. Magnum TA & Ron Garvin - Crockett Cup)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_09_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_09_750.wmv) (Road Warriors vs. Freebirds - AWA)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_11_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_11_750.wmv) (Randy Savage & Bob Orton vs. Paul Orndorff & Tito Santana - Championship Wrestling 5/3/86)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_12_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_12_750.wmv) (Rockers vs. Max Brothers - AWA)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_14_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_14_750.wmv) (Mating Game with Hart Foundation (TNT 5/28/86)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_16_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_16_750.wmv) (Mean Gene interviews the Machines)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_17_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_17_750.wmv) (Chris Adams vs. Dingo Warrior - WCCW)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_18_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_18_750.wmv) (Nikita Koloff vs. Magnum TA)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_19_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_19_750.wmv) (20-Man Battle Royal - AWA)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_20_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_20_750.wmv) (Hulk Hogan vs. Paul Orndorff - SNME 10/4/86)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_21_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_21_750.wmv) (Kevin Von Erich vs. Black Bart - WCCW)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_22_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_22_750.wmv) (Hart Foundation vs. British Bulldogs - Capital Centre 1/18/86 (NEVER TELEVISED MATCH!)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_23_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_23_750.wmv) (Jimmy Snuka vs. Larry Zbyszko - AWA)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_24_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_24_750.wmv) (Curt Hennig vs. Nick Bockwinkel - AWA)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_25_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_25_750.wmv) (Randy Savage vs. Jake Roberts - SNME 11/29/86)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_26_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_26_750.wmv) (Hulk Hogan & Roddy Piper vs. Paul Orndorff & Harley Race - MSG 11/24/86)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_27_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_27_750.wmv) (Ric Flair vs. Nikita Koloff)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_28_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_28_750.wmv) (Rock N Roll Express vs. Andersons)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_29_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_29_750.wmv) (Lex Luger vs. Kevin Sullivan)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_30_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/032011/drm-mar2011_30_750.wmv) (Midnight Express vs. Barry Windham & Ron Garvin)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on February 28, 2011, 10:07:41 AM
No SNME, TNT, or NWA yet?

Some of you may recall they promised a one hour special that never showed up, but I guess is due to show up this week sometime.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on February 28, 2011, 10:17:23 AM
I tried filenames like snme, snmebonus, bonussnme w/ no luck.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on February 28, 2011, 10:25:05 AM
The downer with TNT is a 1986 episode likely has Gene as the host. Those aren't as fun.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on February 28, 2011, 10:39:36 AM
Looks like a lot of quick squashes/interviews this month to make room for the three extra episodes and Hennig/Bockwinkle.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: alkeiper on March 03, 2011, 01:41:45 PM
SNME Thoughts

-Hillbillies vs Piper/Orton/Ventura was fairly unoffensive fun. Not a great match but wasn't cringeworthy.

-Steele vs Savage was never a great matchup. But George Steele was absolutely integral to setting up the Savage/Elizabeth dynamic. Without this feud, you can argue that the Megapowers angle doesn't work.

-Hogan vs Funk has been seen before. Good short match, though Funk absolutely got screwed.

-I really liked the Volkoff/Kirschner peace match. Volkoff busting out a somersault and amateur wrestling moves! Then Volkoff cheating to win wasn't noteworthy usually, but within the context was highly effective.

-Steamboat/JYD vs Fuji/Muraco. Basic tag match. Steamboat gets his blowoff win and it all works.

Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: alkeiper on March 04, 2011, 08:57:01 AM
The Big Event. Odd show as its really a WWE house show in front of (at the time) the largest crowd in wrestling history. Roberts/Steamboat is the best match, but nothing on the show is really outstanding. A forgettable card altogether.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: DMann1979 on March 04, 2011, 08:59:32 AM
I'm actually impressed with this month's lineup, pretty amazing to think all this stuff is 25 years old now.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on March 04, 2011, 09:04:37 AM
They added the West Texas State special which I guess should have been aired last month. Great show and some cool rare Dibiase footage which fits in nicely with what's on Classics on Demand as they show a clip of DiBiase's WWF re-debut in Houston from 1987 and then clips of a tag match where he turned on Sam Houston which was just before he started the Million $ Man vignettes on TV.

The Bulldogs-Harts match is really great also, as good as or better than a lot of their other tag matches at MSG, Boston etc. in that era
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on March 04, 2011, 09:51:54 AM
Any clue what graphic needed approval? Obviously if they didn't get it, it just wouldn't be there.

Edit: Going to the website, clearly it was the West Texas State University logo (which has a trademark note next to it) was the issue.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: tacosmith on March 07, 2011, 11:48:37 PM
Complete noob question (new to this board and WWEClassics), but I figure you guys would know the answer.  Do they routinely pull access to videos?  I'm trying to re-watch the "1986 1-4-2 SNME", which I just watched last Saturday, but I'm getting an error that the file cannot be found. 
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on March 08, 2011, 04:22:09 AM
I'll give it a peek when I get home tonight. I was having some issues this past weekend but after restarting the cpu, everything worked fine.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: DMann1979 on March 10, 2011, 11:41:19 AM
Watching the 10/29/1988 Wrestling Challenge from Toledo, funny to hear Gorilla mention at the top of the program that Metallica will be performing that November.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on March 10, 2011, 11:52:52 AM
That Santana/Perfect SNME match on the West Texas special was ace.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: alkeiper on March 10, 2011, 12:04:10 PM
That Santana/Perfect SNME match on the West Texas special was ace.
It's also on the SNME dvd. Arguably the best SNME match ever.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: DMann1979 on March 10, 2011, 12:06:22 PM
It's a gangbuster to be sure, but it also must compete against Savage/Hart and Rockers/Brainbusters
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on March 11, 2011, 03:02:44 AM
They're doing a Q & A on Twitter right now, so jump on that if you have anything to ask:

- "How do you pick matches?": We search through our archives and then @JoeyStyles & @howardfinkel give us the seal of approval.
- "Any chance WWEClassics.com available for other consoles?": Not at the moment but it is being explored (I also asked this question with the wording "chance of a Netflix-like streaming app for Xbox/PS3/Wii" as I had not seen that answer at the time).
- "Any chance of weekly installments of TNT or All-American Wrestling? Or PrimeTime Wrestling with studio audience era?": TNT is currently being rebroadcast on WWE Classics on Demand. We won't air full Primetime's but we re-air clips sometimes.
- Even though I know how to access them anyway, I asked the popular question "Are the old Raw episodes coming back?". I figured with the 95/96 DVD being cancelled due to low sales, now was the time to throw in the towel. Their answer, however, was to tell me Raw from 95/96 is available and to go buy the DVD for the rest.
- I then asked "Do more outtakes like the ones on the Mr. Perfect DVD (where he is a bit less than perfect) exist in the archive? I'd love to see a Hits and Misses month of some sort. Some great matches, then some bloopers, flubs, and so bad it's good stuff".  Answer: "We actually have discussed doing a month like that! If we get the go-ahead probably April 2012!"
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on March 11, 2011, 03:19:10 AM
April 2012 . . . right around the corner.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on March 11, 2011, 03:21:05 AM
Also wouldn't that be HOF month?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on March 11, 2011, 03:22:54 AM
"Ever think of doing a DX month?" Yes! However, they have so many DVD's out, there's not much else extra we can do.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on March 11, 2011, 03:47:14 AM
I hope we get a WCW Worldwide from Disney MGM month.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on March 11, 2011, 03:50:31 AM
They did interview Chavo about the last days of WCW, so maybe The Summer of WCW will be back.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on March 11, 2011, 03:54:36 AM
Hopefully so but the way it was worded made me think there'd be some sort of ode to WCW theme on wwe.com for the 10th anniversary of the buyout.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: hurrifan123 on March 11, 2011, 04:24:01 PM
I dont get why Classics on Demand doesn't talk to fans like WWEClassics.com. I swear I feel like this is the only service that's created for superfans like me
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on March 14, 2011, 04:58:31 AM
Anyone else having grief trying to play the videos? It says my WMP is not installed properly (I've had it for years). I really don't want to uninstall then install it if I really don't have to.

EDIT 1 - I reinstalled it and still getting the same error message. Drat!
EDIT 2 - Tried getting some assistance from WWE IT support and it left a lot to be desired.
EDIT 3 - Installed Firefox and now able to download a new WMP11 through windows.com. Hoorah!
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on March 22, 2011, 04:09:02 AM
Per Facebook, we're getting Survivor Series 2002 as the ppv in April. That'll make 10 Survivor Series shows on wweclassics.

June looks to be Tourney Triumphs with a bunch of full tournaments.

July is the Best of the US Title. So yeah.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on March 28, 2011, 09:21:15 AM
Very early secret update (sshhh! don't tell!) (Just can't find a new History of IC Title episode or any videos about Drew Carey)

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_ppv_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_ppv_750.wmv) (Survivor Series 2002)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_hv_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_hv_750.wmv) (Life & Death of Road Warriors)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_intro_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_intro_750.wmv) (Introducing Kevin Von Erich - vs. Johnny Rodz MSG 1/21/80)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_wccw3_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_wccw3_750.wmv) (WCCW 11/2/86)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_wcwsn1302_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_wcwsn1302_750.wmv) (WCW Saturday Night 2/17/96)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_wcwsn1303_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_wcwsn1303_750.wmv) (WCW Saturday Night 2/24/96)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_raw146_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_raw146_750.wmv) (Raw 2/5/96)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_raw147_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_raw147_750.wmv) (Raw 2/19/96)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_superstars290_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_superstars290_750.wmv) (Superstars 3/21/92)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_superstars291_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_superstars291_750.wmv) (Superstars 3/28/92)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_challenge115_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_challenge115_750.wmv) (Challenge 11/13/88)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_challenge116_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_challenge116_750.wmv) (Challenge 11/20/88)

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_hbk1_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_hbk1_750.wmv) (Shawn Michaels vs. Randy Savage - Munich, Germany 4/14/92)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_hbk2_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_hbk2_750.wmv) (Shawn Michaels vs. Triple H - SummerSlam 2002)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_hbk3_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_hbk3_750.wmv) (Shawn Michaels vs. Rob Van Dam - Raw November 2002)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_hbk4_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_hbk4_750.wmv) (Midnight Rockers vs. Nasty Boys - AWA)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_hbk5_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_hbk5_750.wmv) (Rockers vs. Brain Busters - Prime Time 3/27/89)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_hbk6_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_hbk6_750.wmv) (Rockers vs. Colossal Connection - Prime Time 3/25/90)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_hbk7_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_hbk7_750.wmv) (Shawn Michaels & Kevin Nash vs. Ric Flair & Randy Orton - Raw 6/23/03)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_hbk8_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_hbk8_750.wmv) (DX vs. Miz & Morrison (Raw 12/09)

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_hacksaw1_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_hacksaw1_750.wmv) (Jim Duggan vs. Harley Race - MSG 1/25/88)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_hacksaw2_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_hacksaw2_750.wmv) (Jim Duggan vs. Randy Savage - SNME 1/27/90)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_hacksaw3_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_hacksaw3_750.wmv) (Jim Duggan vs. Sgt. Slaughter - MSG 3/15/91)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_hacksaw5_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_hacksaw5_750.wmv) (Jim Duggan vs. Steven Regal - WCW 1999)

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_lod1_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_lod1_750.wmv) (Road Warriors vs. Doom - Starrcade 89)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_lod2_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_lod2_750.wmv) (Legion of Doom vs. Demolition - Challenge 2/9/91)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_lod4_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_lod4_750.wmv) (Road Warriors & Paul Ellering vs. Crusher, Larry Hennig, Curt Hennig - AWA 1/13/85)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_lod5_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_lod5_750.wmv) (Road Warriors & Sting vs. Varsity Club - NWA 6-Man Tag Titles)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_lod6_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_lod6_750.wmv) (Road Warriors vs. King Kong Bundy & Jerry Blackwell - AWA)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_lod7_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_lod7_750.wmv) (Road Warriors vs. Brisco Brothers - Omni 8/28/83)

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_sunny1_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_sunny1_750.wmv) (Sunny Undercover with Mankind - Shotgun Saturday Night 97
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_sunny2_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_sunny2_750.wmv) (Sunny vs. Marlena - Arm Wrestling - Raw 2/24/97)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_sunny3_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_sunny3_750.wmv) (Jim Ross interviews Sunny - Superstars 6/29/96)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_sunny4_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_sunny4_750.wmv) (Sunny in SMW)

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_abdullah1_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_abdullah1_750.wmv) (Abdullah the Butcher vs. Bruiser Brody - Cotton Bowl 10/86)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_abdullah2_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_abdullah2_750.wmv) (Surprise for Sting? - WCW 1991)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_abdullah3_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_abdullah3_750.wmv) (Abdullah the Butcher & Cactus Jack vs. Steiner Brothers - WCW 1992)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_abdullah4_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_abdullah4_750.wmv) (Abdullah the Butcher vs. Pepper Gomez

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_bullet1_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_bullet1_750.wmv) (Brad Armstrong & Jim Garvin vs. Kevin Sullivan & the Angel - Georgia Championship Wrestling)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_bullet2_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_bullet2_750.wmv)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_bullet3_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_bullet3_750.wmv) (Bob Armstrong vs. Greg Valentine)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_bullet4_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_bullet4_750.wmv) (Bob Armstrong vs. Jim Osborne) (black&white)



Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: alkeiper on March 28, 2011, 09:44:44 AM
I take that to mean the Road Warriors are being announced tonight for the Hall of Fame.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on March 28, 2011, 09:54:35 AM
I thought we were getting the Hacksaw Jim Duggan CV.

Thanks for the links Landy.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: JHawk on March 30, 2011, 02:36:25 PM
To show how happy I am that we have the full archive logged:  When I try to access stuff the way you're supposed to, through their site, half the time I get rerouted to the front page.  Tried to go to the timeline for 1983 and right back to the front page I went.  Some of the TV stuff is the same way.  No issues with the videos themselves when I can get to them at least.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on March 30, 2011, 11:02:49 PM
Glad it can be of some help.

I tried looking up accurate dates for the older Bullet Bob vids but ended up having to guess based on when certain guys were in the Florida territory.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on April 01, 2011, 02:15:10 AM
Much to my surprise, WWEClassics sent a tweet out to the History of WWE twitter account offering to fill in some gaps. Not sure how Cawthon is going to break it to them that 1/2 of Classics' dates are erroneous.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on April 01, 2011, 02:16:16 AM
They also tweeted that the timeline was back. Did it go somewhere?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on April 01, 2011, 06:37:06 AM
Not necessarily, but everytime you'd click a year, it'd take you back to the home page.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on April 01, 2011, 02:30:46 PM
Some good stuff in the video descriptions this month. I particularly liked how they tied Superstars from 1992 and WCWSN from 1996 together ("Perhaps Flair was telling the truth").
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on April 02, 2011, 09:37:26 AM
The Owen Hart match on Superstars is really good, for a quick squash.

!!!!!!! DEBUT OF THE SINGING MOUNTIE THEME !!!!!!
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on April 20, 2011, 04:10:53 AM
According to Twitter, two Edge matches are going up on the site later today.

Caught the 3/27 SuperStars ep and my heavens, Sid's interview was precious.

Excuse me Harvey *turns back to camera to point at the crowd* SHEEUUUTTT UPPP!!!

Also, Doug Somers showed up to job to Tito Santana in a match that was edited just after the opening bell. Poor Somers received no ring intro and was only referred to as "Somers" by McMahon. You'd think Hennig would have dropped some appreciation his way even if it meant he'd have to use one less perfect-pun for the week.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on April 20, 2011, 04:57:19 AM
http://www2.wwe.com/subscriptions/wweclassics/edge/ (http://www2.wwe.com/subscriptions/wweclassics/edge/)

That's what their latest tweet links to, I don't know what out of that is new.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on April 20, 2011, 06:30:40 AM
Zero of that is new.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: hurrifan123 on April 20, 2011, 02:16:32 PM
His Raw debut and the King of the Ring match from 1999 was new. The other videos were added back after being removed for blood.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on April 20, 2011, 10:10:48 PM
You're right about that. Those matches weren't on the page when I looked at it yesterday.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on April 21, 2011, 11:13:20 AM
Six new Edge matches so far. The first two are posted on Edge's Classics page while the other four will probably be posted tomorrow . . .

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_edge1_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_edge1_750.wmv) ---- Edge vs Jose Estrada - Raw 6/21/98
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_edge2_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_edge2_750.wmv) ---- Edge & Christian vs Hardies - KOTR 99
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_edge3_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_edge3_750.wmv) ---- Edge & Christian vs Hardies - Unforgiven 2000 in a cage match
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_edge4_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_edge4_750.wmv) ---- Edge & Christian vs Dudleys - RR 01
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_edge5_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_edge5_750.wmv) ---- Edge vs Lance Storm - SummerSlam 01
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_edge6_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_edge6_750.wmv) ---- Edge vs Christian - No Mercy 01 in a ladder match
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on April 23, 2011, 07:59:14 AM
"Here's a secret: We can't air videos of old WWE matches that were never taped. We appreciate requests, but many were never recorded."

"Beginning May 1st: https://wweclassics.com begins their trivia challenge. First 10 people to tweet correct answer move to next round. Our trivia questions will not be easy but all answers come from May videos. Winner of entire contest will help us program WWEClassics.com"
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on April 24, 2011, 10:53:58 AM
I'd be down with Venk winning the contest and having Classics post 30 SuperStars eps from 1992 next month.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on April 27, 2011, 11:35:58 AM
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_edge7_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_edge7_750.wmv) --- Hijinx with Edge & Christian

Does anyone know which dvd this montage was yanked from?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: hurrifan123 on April 27, 2011, 12:22:24 PM
Edge Decade DVD. I like they added that instead of just matches.

What's everyone thinking about their August theme? I'm guessing New World Order, it's the only logical thing to celebrate 15 years later.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on April 28, 2011, 11:46:55 AM
I wouldn't doubt it. Though I'm the shits at predicting themes or what will be posted. Here are two more Edge matches just posted . . .

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_edge8_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_edge8_750.wmv) --- IC/US Title - Edge vs Test from Survivor Series 2001
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_edge9_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_edge9_750.wmv) --- IC Title - Edge vs William Regal from Royal Rumble 2002
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on April 29, 2011, 08:01:01 AM
Early secret update:

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_ic46_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/042011/drm-apr2011_ic46_750.wmv) (This is for April, looks like they forgot to add it to their page but I've just noticed the link works now - all Shawn Michaels matches)

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_ppv_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_ppv_750.wmv) (Clash 35 - 8/21/97)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_hv_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_hv_750.wmv) (Viva Las Divass)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_intro_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_intro_750.wmv) (Introducing Tito Santana - vs. Jose Estrada MSG 6/4/79)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_ic47_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_ic47_750.wmv) (Legacy of IC Title) (stupidly they are showing Morales vs. Slaughter in this which they also feature as a separate match)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_wccw4_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_wccw4_750.wmv) (WCCW 11/9/82)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_raw148_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_raw148_750.wmv) (Raw 2/26/96)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_raw149_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_raw149_750.wmv) (Raw 3/4/96)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_superstars292_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_superstars292_750.wmv) (Superstars 4/4/92)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_superstars293_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_superstars293_750.wmv) (Superstars 4/11/92)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_challenge117_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_challenge117_750.wmv) (Challenge 11/27/88)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_challenge118_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_challenge118_750.wmv) (Challenge 12/4/88)

(Can't find any links for WCW Saturday Night this month)

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_01_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_01_750.wmv) (Pedro Morales vs. Stan Stasiak - MSG 8/27/73)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_02_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_02_750.wmv) (Pedro Morales vs. Mr. Fuji - MSG 4/29/74)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_03_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_03_750.wmv) (Tito Santana & Ivan Putski vs. Valiant Brothers - MSG 10/22/79)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_04_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_04_750.wmv) (Pedro Morales vs. Sgt. Slaughter - MSG 2/16/81)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_05_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_05_750.wmv) (Tito Santana vs. Ivan Koloff - MSG 12/26/83)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_07_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_07_750.wmv) (Mil Mascaras & Tito Santana vs. Demolition - Houston 8/28/87)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_08_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_08_750.wmv) (Latin Lover, Heavy Metal, Rey Mysterio Jr. vs. Madonna's Boyfriend, Fuerza Guerrera, Psicosis - When World's Collide 11/6/94)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_09_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_09_750.wmv) (Konnan vs. Perro Aguayo - When World Collide 11/6/94)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_10_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_10_750.wmv) (Ric Flair vs. Chavo Guerrero Jr. - Saturday Night 8/3/96)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_11_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_11_750.wmv) (La Parka vs. Juventud Guerrera - Nitro 11/18/96)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_12_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_12_750.wmv) (Mini Mankind & Histeria vs. Mascarita Sagrada Jr. & Venum - Shotgun 1/18/97)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_13_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_13_750.wmv) (Hector Garza & Octagon vs. Heavy Metal & Fuerza Guerrera (Superstars 2/9/97)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_14_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_14_750.wmv) (Juventud Guerrera, Hector Garza & Lizmark Jr. vs. Villano IV, La Parka & Psichosis - Bash at the Beach 7/13/97)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_15_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_15_750.wmv) (Max Mini vs. Piratita Morgan - Raw 9/8/97)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_16_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_16_750.wmv) (Taka Michinoku vs. Pantera - No Way Out 2/15/98)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_17_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_17_750.wmv) (Rey Mysterio Jr. vs. Chris Jericho - Bash at the Beach 7/12/98)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_18_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_18_750.wmv) (Super Crazy vs. Yoshihiro Tajiri - Guilty as Charged 1/10/99)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_19_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_19_750.wmv) (Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Shane Helms - Sin 1/14/01)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_20_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_20_750.wmv) (Big Show vs. Rey Mysterio - Backlash 4/27/03)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_21_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_21_750.wmv) (Trish Stratus vs. Melina - Survivor Series 11/27/05)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_22_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_22_750.wmv) (Chavo Guerrero vs. CM Punk - ECW 2/5/08)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_24_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_24_750.wmv) (Alberto Del Rio vs. Kofi Kingston - Smackdown 11/12/10)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_25_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/052011/drm-may2011_25_750.wmv) (Sheamus vs. Daniel Bryan - Raw 4/4/11)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on April 29, 2011, 08:27:40 AM
Thanks for the links. Will try to update the archive later tonight.

Big frown from me if they don't include the WCW Saturday Night eps this month.

Looks like there's going to be a lot of flip, flop, & flying this month. Pretty neat they're starting the Instant Classics this month.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on April 29, 2011, 08:29:23 AM
I'm guessing they've just changed the code in the links and I just can't find it
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on April 29, 2011, 08:36:34 AM
Did they consider Sheamus vs. Daniel Bryan an instant classic?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on April 29, 2011, 08:40:47 AM
I'd assume so unless Bryan is Tito Santana's 3rd cousin.

I never saw the match posted so I have no idea if it's any good or not.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on April 29, 2011, 08:45:42 AM
It was ok, but it was a 7 minute match with a 2 minute commercial break. I was pretty sure Twitter spoke and said Ziggler/Bryan.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on April 29, 2011, 08:50:33 AM
Maybe Vince put a ban on reairing fried blonde Ziggler matches.

EDIT - It was posted for Sin Cara's debut.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on May 01, 2011, 08:25:26 AM
That first episode of Superstars stirs up bad memories of false advertising. Someone let a "Superstars of Wrestling" slip through too, hopefully they aren't sued.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: alkeiper on May 03, 2011, 08:07:41 AM
Many times WWEClassics.com uncovers a gem from the 1970s. Morales/Stasiak is not one of them. What a snoozer.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Gary Joseph Wilson on May 05, 2011, 11:31:46 AM
I'm watching the last Clash of the Champions and man hoe great did WCW used to be? I swear 96/97 WCW is my favorite era in all of wrestling.Granted it was when I first started really watching wrestling, when I was seven. So far on the show a surprisingly good match between Jeff Jarrett and Mongo, Raven getting put over strong and a promo from Alex Wright. Ultimo Dragon is next... Ahhh how I miss WCW.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Gary Joseph Wilson on May 05, 2011, 12:04:48 PM
Then the Dinner and a Movie guys turn heel and join the NWO.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: hurrifan123 on May 07, 2011, 01:02:56 AM
I'm actually really looking forward to June. The tournament month sounds fun if done right.  Did they mention if they are full tournaments or just the finals? Finals alone would suck...I imagine being able to see in what video and watching an entire king of the ring.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on May 07, 2011, 02:20:50 AM
I imagine just various matches from tournaments, though the History of the IC title will be the tournament from the fall of 1998 in full. I think one of their genius subscribers suggested they use that tournament for an episode awhile back once the video team had it blurred for CoD.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 07, 2011, 02:53:31 AM
I think they tweeted there would be full tournaments. I finally created a twitter account only to nag WWEClassics & TNA On Demand with questions/tech issues (Ex: The Edge/Booker WMX8 match not working). I will stop at nothing to get the video count as high as possible on the archive.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on May 07, 2011, 02:55:12 AM
Read my Clash XX review!
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 07, 2011, 03:02:14 AM
You got to jump on those torrents and grab Part 2.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on May 07, 2011, 03:03:12 AM
I could just watch the 8 man on this service and pretend.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 07, 2011, 03:09:38 AM
That's true. I'm surprised Jesse didn't name drop Survivor Series by mistake.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 08, 2011, 03:16:48 AM
WWF ALERT - On the 11/20/88 Challenge, they let slip by the goalie a WWF reference blurted out by Gorilla during the Big Bossman's entrance.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on May 08, 2011, 11:13:13 AM
Has it been standard for them to leave the 24/7 watermark on PPVs (or Clashes, in this case)? I don't always get around to them but my cable company never received this Clash.

"No music, no entrance" is said about Raven. What did WWE dub over with the Raven WCW theme then (assuming it wasn't originally there, since Tony says it isn't)?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 08, 2011, 01:05:09 PM
Not sure about the Raven one. I think he did have a generic production track for a couple weeks at one point.

I think they may have left the watermark there for the 6/94 Clash as well. *Checks* Well, no they didn't but they did use the same graphic at the beginning of the video that was used on the 24/7 version.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on May 08, 2011, 01:33:15 PM
The second half didn't appear to have the watermark when I was skipping around the video. They included the 24/7 split of the program though, where they repeat the intro because it would have been in two parts.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on May 18, 2011, 03:49:16 AM
They announced via facebook that the KOTR 94 and Crockett Cup tournaments will be part of June's line-up.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 18, 2011, 04:44:00 AM
I guess the Owen Hart ban doesn't apply to WWEClassics. Hopefully, there's an Art Donovan ban.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: alkeiper on May 18, 2011, 12:47:10 PM
Also now the entire King of Cable tournament. I like it.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 18, 2011, 01:19:15 PM
I'm down with seeing that King of Cable tourney. I didn't have cable back then so it'll be nice to see how everything shaped up until the Sting/Vader Starrcade finals.

Also saw them comment that the KOTR 94 qualifiers will be included.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on May 18, 2011, 01:28:35 PM
This is a question that's been brought up many times and been discussed before, I know, but was it "King of Cable TV" or "King of wrestling between the cables of the ring"?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: alkeiper on May 18, 2011, 01:42:59 PM
The latter
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 18, 2011, 01:46:04 PM
Interesting since WCW announcers never referred to anyone coming off the cables.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 19, 2011, 05:39:57 AM
In addition to those tournaments, the Wrestling Classic has been announced as the full ppv for June.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on May 19, 2011, 09:22:23 AM
The first time it aired on 24/7, they kept "Power of Love" as the theme when they ran down the card and talked about giving away a car. They edited it out on a re-airing. That was honestly the best part of the show.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: hurrifan123 on May 19, 2011, 04:36:42 PM
I don't think I've ever looked forward to a month this much!
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: hurrifan123 on May 21, 2011, 10:05:06 AM
I'm not sure if I'm surprised they haven't added a ton of videos to Randy Savage on WWEClassics.com? I'm unsure if it's the right thing to do or WWE decided it would be distasteful to try to get people to buy videos of him. I'll go with the latter for now...WWEClassics.com has been pretty good about adding Savage each month as it is.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 21, 2011, 11:53:22 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if they went ahead and added about 10 Savage matches to his page this coming week and keep it fairly low key, similiar to when they added Edge matches last month.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on May 24, 2011, 02:22:23 AM
Very secret early update for June videos. I am having no luck finding any of the individual tournament matches though (KOTR 94 and King of Cable)

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062011/drm-june2011_ppv_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062011/drm-june2011_ppv_750.wmv) (The Wrestling Classic)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062011/drm-june2011_hv_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062011/drm-june2011_hv_750.wmv) (1988 Crockett Cup)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062011/drm-june2011_ic48_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062011/drm-june2011_ic48_750.wmv) (History of IC Title 48)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062011/drm-june2011_wccw5_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062011/drm-june2011_wccw5_750.wmv) (WCCW 11/16/82)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062011/drm-june2011_raw150_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062011/drm-june2011_raw150_750.wmv) (Raw 3/11/96)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062011/drm-june2011_raw151_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062011/drm-june2011_raw151_750.wmv) (Raw 3/18/96)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062011/drm-june2011_superstars294_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062011/drm-june2011_superstars294_750.wmv) (Superstars 4/18/92)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062011/drm-june2011_superstars295_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062011/drm-june2011_superstars295_750.wmv) (Superstars 4/25/92)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062011/drm-june2011_challenge119_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062011/drm-june2011_challenge119_750.wmv) (Challenge 12/11/88)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062011/drm-june2011_challenge120_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062011/drm-june2011_challenge120_750.wmv) (Challenge 12/18/88)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062011/drm-june2011_wcwsn1306_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062011/drm-june2011_wcwsn1306_750.wmv) (WCW Saturday Night 3/16/96)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062011/drm-june2011_wcwsn1307_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/062011/drm-june2011_wcwsn1307_750.wmv) (WCW Saturday Night 3/23/96)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on May 27, 2011, 04:31:36 AM
Abstract shape Superstars opening! I bet the crew is happy they're finally at the episodes where "of Wrestling" was officially dropped from the name.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on May 27, 2011, 05:55:37 AM
And we're back to Feature Match season on SuperStars as well.

Also, those Where the Big Boys Play videos they're airing on Saturday Night are just as tacky as the Billionaire Ted skits on Raw.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on May 28, 2011, 04:34:07 AM
What a cavalcade of bowel movement jokes the opening of the 4/25 Superstars is. Vince loves his puns.

I remember being terrified of Murderous Berzerker. It was a hot school yard topic of discussion.

Showing a group of heels singing for charity at WrestleMania weekend seems bizarre. Oh look, Brooke Hogan makes an appearance. Also, having Roberts and Martel be on the heel side of the Mania Brunch panel but giving each other dirty looks was a nice continuity touch.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: TheSSNintendo on May 28, 2011, 05:14:55 AM
Abstract shape Superstars opening! I bet the crew is happy they're finally at the episodes where "of Wrestling" was officially dropped from the name.

The abstract opening was my favorite intro sequence. Probably because that's the intro I first saw when watching Superstars back in '93.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on June 01, 2011, 05:31:00 AM
Quote from: WWEClassics.com
WCW never made it clear whether this tournament was for the “King of Cable Television” or the “King of Cable Ropes”?

Amusing. Almost as if someone from their team reads this thread.

I can't recall ever seeing Piper/Hogan from Halloween Havoc 97, and from all accounts that's a good thing, but I guess I can check it out now.

Dolph/Bryan from Bragging Rights is up as an Instant Classic.

Tournaments: WCW Lightheavyweight Tournament (which in an rarity means they have a shared match on CoD and Classics.com this month), 1991 WCW Tag Title tournament, the 1990 IC title tournament (which was already in a Legacy of the IC title episode, right?), the previously mentioned KOC and KOTR 94 tournaments, 2000 ECW TV title tournament, and 2002 KOTR tournament.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on June 01, 2011, 05:39:15 AM
They also snuck in an extra Challenge ep to close 1988.

The Savage lunge off the top of the cage was incredible in the Piper/Hogan match.

I'm happy to see all these tournaments on single files rather than a separate link for each match in the tournament.

IRS's Top 3 Tax Cheats was awesome.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on June 01, 2011, 09:15:26 AM
Oh yeah, forgot to metion the extra Challenge. I guess they hit a facebook or Twitter quota?

Mentioning the Savage dive and looking at how low rent that cage looks in the thumbnail, I think I did see the match at some point.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on June 01, 2011, 10:54:32 AM
Kevin Von Erich looked a little foggy to say the least when Michael Hayes brought up Brad Rheingans.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on June 02, 2011, 03:05:51 AM
I could not place Vader's 1st round KOTC opponent as being Tony Atlas until the announcers said so.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: DMann1979 on June 02, 2011, 12:40:29 PM
Jake did color commentary for WCW?  Interesting, I never knew that.  And it's a shame he never got more opportunities, he makes for a good color man.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on June 02, 2011, 12:43:14 PM
I thought it was Steve Austin with a cold before he was indentified.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on June 03, 2011, 10:46:29 AM
Classics edited out the de-skirting of Brother Love out of Piper's Pit. Just seemed like an odd thing to hack out.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on June 03, 2011, 11:15:13 AM
Never would of thought that to be edited.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Brodypedia on June 04, 2011, 02:05:01 AM
Classics edited out the de-skirting of Brother Love out of Piper's Pit. Just seemed like an odd thing to hack out.

IIRC they edited off the Piper DVD also
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: JHawk on June 09, 2011, 02:06:37 PM
Funny how during the Light Heavyweight Title tourney they mention:

1.  That Pillman wasn't reinstated until the tournament had already started.
2.  That he won a match in the tournament to advance to the semifinals.
3.  Pillman's match never actually airs in this clip, leading me to believe it never took place.

Also, a look at thehistoryofwwe.com shows that Mike Graham did, in fact, win a quarterfinal round match, but that match aired AFTER the Morton-Graham semifinal and thus is not on this clip.  WCW being WCW even back then.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on June 09, 2011, 02:59:48 PM
I endured through the Crockett Cup 88 video after 3 sittings. I'm sure this would have been fine if they aired full matches with live commentary. Instead, the commentary was added afterwards which sounded awkward when they'd cut to a fan for a second, come back to the match, and the match would be clipped to all 4 guys being in the ring just before the finish.

It was a mess of a production.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: JHawk on June 09, 2011, 03:06:33 PM
I only watched about the first 20 minutes of it, but they're showing teams advancing into the third round and I only saw about 10 minutes worth of the first round.  I'm sure the first round sucked since we've got teams like Kendall Windham and The Italian Stallion making the cut and eight teams getting a bye into the second round, but I want to see who The Jive Tones actually beat, dammit!
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: alkeiper on June 09, 2011, 03:35:03 PM
The tournament itself was a mess. Check out the bracket on prowrestlinghistory.com.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: JHawk on June 09, 2011, 03:51:00 PM
As brilliant as Barry Windham's heel turn was, it really fucked up these brackets.  For those wondering what Al's talking about, here's the description.

Quote
As you can tell, the bracketing of the tournament was messed up. There are several reasons for this. Sting & Ronnie Garvin were entered as a team in the tournament. However, Garvin was injured by Kevin Sullivan while trying to help Jimmy Garvin. Luger & Barry Windham were scheduled to compete as a team. However, Windham turned on Luger and joined the Four Horsemen. Therefore, Sting & Luger became partners. Dusty Rhodes & Nikita Koloff were to compete as a team. Rhodes was suspended and Koloff was given the NWA World Title match with champion Ric Flair. These factors explain why there were only 22 teams in the tournament. Nobody is quite sure what happened to the Sheepherders. They won their first round match. They beat Horner & Armstrong in the second round. They then lost to the Midnight Express, also in the second round.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: alkeiper on June 09, 2011, 11:12:25 PM
As far as the production itself, are there fans here too young to remember SP, LP and ELP on VHS tapes? WCW always clipped their videos to two hours so they could release them in SP, the highest quality.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on June 10, 2011, 03:47:01 AM
I definitely remember. Coliseum Video would release their videos in SP as well in the 1980s but nothing they released came off as amateurish as CC88.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: tacosmith on June 11, 2011, 03:26:57 PM
As far as the production itself, are there fans here too young to remember SP, LP and ELP on VHS tapes? WCW always clipped their videos to two hours so they could release them in SP, the highest quality.

I definitely remember SP, LP, and EP.  I used EP when I was taping Wrestling Challenge and Superstars back in the late 80s since it didn't come on until 1 AM on Saturday mornings in my area. 

I remember that Wrestlemania IV was released as two VHS tapes back in the day. I'm going to assume those were both released in SP.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on June 21, 2011, 09:11:03 AM
Quote from: Facebook page
Have you hunted WWEClassics.com today? There's been even more full episodes added

I assume the mean "to the archives" since I see nothing new (and that would be odd and random if they did).
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on June 21, 2011, 09:45:41 AM
Yeah, they haven't updated their individual show pages as the kids would say "in a minute".
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 01, 2011, 02:51:46 AM
From their facebook:

While you're waiting for an announcement today, enjoy a completely updated WWEClassics.com Video Timeline. We've currently updated EVERY video through 1986 with each year being updated throughout the day. 100's of hours you might have missed are now available. http://www2.wwe.com/subscriptions/wweclassics/timeline/ (http://www2.wwe.com/subscriptions/wweclassics/timeline/)

It's probably about Macs or something, right?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 01, 2011, 03:34:21 AM
I would think so. They also left a "Sooner than later" line earlier answering the same question.

I am happy they're updating the timeline with WMV links since I'm hoping they'll also keep that format and not completely shift to a Flash format.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 01, 2011, 03:49:54 AM
I noticed the TV show pages (Raw and WCWSN, anyway) actually go right up to the episodes they had in June. That's cool because I like having the descriptions (it's also been awhile since I've watched an episode so it's easier for me to backtrack this way).
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 01, 2011, 07:53:49 AM
Full Vault Access!
While WWEClassics.com upgrades its service to HD Quality and MAC support, enjoy our full Video Timeline with 100's of hours of matches from WWE, WCW, NWA, WCCW, AWA, ECW and more!

This sounds like an excuse to not update today.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 01, 2011, 07:54:41 AM
If Landy can't sniff out early links, you know they're behind. Interested to get a gander at this HD Quality.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 01, 2011, 08:02:22 AM
My assumption on that would be matches from 2008+ would be in 16:3 and that's the biggest change, but we'll see.

I tried using the Landy formula to find links myself but nothing worked.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 01, 2011, 08:10:25 AM
Took another look at the main page. Looks like we might be taking in Tourney Triumph for another few weeks.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 01, 2011, 11:38:49 AM
They were quick - like, really quick - in changing that graphic announcing HD versions of "WWE's Greatest Matches" to a generic "Hey, watch some Undertaker matches" graphic.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 01, 2011, 11:42:31 AM
Now I can't get any of the links to work, but I think that's just a case of my cpu being crapola.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 01, 2011, 11:45:18 AM
I tested a 1993 Raw link and it worked fine.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 01, 2011, 11:46:16 AM
Thanks for the heads up. I just get the ol You Need to Reinstall WMP message. Last time I got it, it wasn't that simple.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 01, 2011, 11:52:07 AM
I see they deleted someone's post from today asking where the update was as well as their own response to an older post where they said "Check Friday and see". They also removed the HD mention on facebook too. I don't know what the hell is going on in Stamford today.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 03, 2011, 11:21:51 AM
While WWEClassics hopefully gets on the ball and uploads some Steamboat/Austin goodness, I've been watching the Saturday Night eps posted in June.

- Yay, Brad Armstrong with entrance music in tact gets a win but it's against Disco
- The next week Armstrong with lopped off entrance by Classics (Why?) loses a fun match against Luger (I DUNNO!)
- A strange 3-man team of Cobra, Pat Tanaka, & The Gambler joined forces
- Shark & Barbarian defeated Hogan & Savage (I'll just leave it at that)
- Always enjoyed watching Duggan punch The Giant
- Going to leave off for now at Ric Flair defending the WCW Championship against . . . Sgt Craig Pittman (I actually love this era of WCW where anyone with entrance music can be a top contender to any title in WCW at any time with no notice to the audience)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 05, 2011, 08:03:46 AM
I love how this Ben Lamb character responded to his own Facebook post on the Classics page. What a goob.

*Looks up* Damn.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 05, 2011, 08:30:42 AM
He did a better job of it than Tabay Jalyzada.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 05, 2011, 08:46:11 AM
He must be a World's Greatest Wrestler Jeff Jarrett fan.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 07, 2011, 05:23:20 AM
Facebook is getting pretty restless.

"And on the 7th day, they created July videos?" - "It looks like on the 7th day, they rested..."
"THAT THEY DID NOT DO"
"you need to do the july videos ready right now all of the wweclassic.com facebookers are really mad at you guys because you need to get july videos ready right now"
"I think the worst part is the unprofessional attitude displayed by not addressing the concerns. If there are issues, ok, but let us know what they are. This isn't a 1970's locker room dedicated to protecting kayfabe. We are paying customers (at least for the time being) and we deserve to know what's going on. We would possibly be less irate if we were cognizant of the ostensibility behind the delay."

Last guy has a point, and doesn't seem retarded (well, except for the fact he declared himself "gone" 10 hours prior).
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 07, 2011, 05:55:50 AM
Then in a week, they'll upload like 10 eps of each show and everyone will forgive them.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on July 07, 2011, 05:56:35 AM
"This isn't a 1970's locker room dedicated to protecting kayfabe" should be the Rasslin' forum subtitle.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Kinetic on July 07, 2011, 01:28:28 PM
I'm fully cognizant of the ostensibility of your suggestion,  but I can see how others might not be.  
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 08, 2011, 02:58:00 AM
And the site is down.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 09, 2011, 06:21:21 AM
They have the March splash page up now, but nothing works - any link you click just refreshes the page.

Edit: Now it's back to normal, with no updates / changes. Oy.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 11, 2011, 09:05:50 AM
You'd think after spending over a week to "refresh" the site and make it Mac/HD-friendly, they'd just cut their losses, do another ordinary update and try again in August.

I wonder if any of the Facebook followers called up WWE offices.

EDIT -
Punky Mark
I CALLED GOT JERKED AROUND I TOLD THEM TO CANCLE MY SERVICE IM NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT IT ON FACEBOOK LIKE THE REST OF YOU. HAVE BALLS AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT RATHER THEN JUST COMPLAINING ON FACEBOOK CALL THE WWE AND DO WHAT I DID COMPLAIN AND CANCLE 203-352-8600
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 11, 2011, 12:09:59 PM
I saw Mean Joey pimping the "every match ever put on the service now available" deal this morning - I mean, that's nice and all, but that's realistically something that should be happening at the end of every month and not something to be particularly proud of.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 13, 2011, 05:23:55 AM
Young Jon Gowen has tried to solve this problem . . .

"how can you updated wweclassic.com because i don't know how to do it"
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 13, 2011, 08:24:09 AM
Classics finally updated their page to say that the US Title matches will be updated "in a few days" and that the site will be Mac friendly. I'm sure Doc is thrilled.

Also, it sounds like the site will be going through yet another name change if this article is accurate:
http://www.prowrestlingondemand.com/2011/07/news-wwe-new-online-site-wweclassics.html (http://www.prowrestlingondemand.com/2011/07/news-wwe-new-online-site-wweclassics.html)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 13, 2011, 12:11:23 PM
Don't care for all the noise about flash... I mean, it's cool if they maintain the archives like they did this month, but I get the feeling this was a "make good" move due to the transition. Maybe the new format will make archiving easier?

Of course that's irrelevant when you consider that their "100% complete archive of every match ever offered" is missing material - somewhat randomly (why is the 2005 Cruiserweight battle royal from Velocity missing?) or well known about (the 1993-1994 Raws that apparently will never be back, despite that DVD being well past it's marketing cycle).

Still, I'm sure it will look good and still be a cool service, so take the good with the bad.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 13, 2011, 01:12:45 PM
I played the MITB trailer on their new player and the quality was dreadful.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 13, 2011, 01:53:36 PM
But that's not "upgraded", right?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 14, 2011, 03:37:04 AM
Updated! With Spring Stampede 94! TV shows are still last month's but facebook said they'd have "bonus episodes".

Featured Hall of Famer Ted DiBiase includes this match, which I'm watching now:

All American Wrestling - Money Inc. & Doink the Clown vs. Steiner Brothers & Tatanka
June 13, 1993   |   Approx. run time: 12 mins.

This 2-out-of-3 Falls Match was a hidden gem from the old WWE television series, “All American Wrestling.” Once a week, this recap show would have one exclusive match and it’s one not to be forgotten!
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 14, 2011, 03:57:06 AM
How's the quality? The screenshots seem a little lighter than normal.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 14, 2011, 03:58:59 AM
Yeah I noticed that they seem to have a brightness/contrast issue with many of those thumbnails, but it's the same video.

And yeah, I watched the MITB commercial on that website - what a mess of pixels that was. I'm hoping that the release of this month's videos in the normal WMV format is a sign that the flash version is an option Mac users / PC users who want to use it can take while the WMV version still exists too, but I think that press release specifically mentioned getting away from that.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 14, 2011, 04:07:23 AM
I am dreading the removal of the WMV videos. I can also forsee a problem with FF and REW the flash videos.

Plus, in my case, I love my playlists. This past week, I made a playlist for virtually every WWF/E match posted, a playlist for almost every NWA/WCW, an AWA one, and a battle royal one.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 14, 2011, 04:08:25 AM
My first thought was it was way too similar to the TNA Video Vault player, and that player was why I never subscribed for more than 2 days.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on July 14, 2011, 04:23:23 AM
The links to the TV shows work, they're just not on the page yet:

4 episodes of Superstars:

http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/072011/drm-july2011_superstars296_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/072011/drm-july2011_superstars296_750.wmv) (5/2/92)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/072011/drm-july2011_superstars297_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/072011/drm-july2011_superstars297_750.wmv) (5/9/92)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/072011/drm-july2011_superstars298_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/072011/drm-july2011_superstars298_750.wmv) (5/16/92)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/072011/drm-july2011_superstars299_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/072011/drm-july2011_superstars299_750.wmv) (5/23/92)

4 episodes of Challenge (they have skipped the 1988 Year in Review episode though)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/072011/drm-july2011_challenge123_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/072011/drm-july2011_challenge123_750.wmv) (1/8/89)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/072011/drm-july2011_challenge124_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/072011/drm-july2011_challenge124_750.wmv) (1/15/89)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/072011/drm-july2011_challenge125_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/072011/drm-july2011_challenge125_750.wmv) (1/22/89)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/072011/drm-july2011_challenge126_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/072011/drm-july2011_challenge126_750.wmv) (1/29/89)

2 Raws:
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/072011/drm-july2011_raw152_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/072011/drm-july2011_raw152_750.wmv) (3/25/96)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/072011/drm-july2011_raw153_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/072011/drm-july2011_raw153_750.wmv) (4/1/96)

1 Saturday Night: (so far)
http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/072011/drm-july2011_wcwsn1309_750.wmv (http://wmsdrm.wwe.com/jukebox/072011/drm-july2011_wcwsn1309_750.wmv) (4/6/96)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 14, 2011, 04:26:13 AM
Uh oh, Superstars is rated TV-14! I was only 10 when I watched this episode (though I was 11 by the 4th one).
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 14, 2011, 04:46:40 AM
So the May 2nd Superstars has an Event Center promo with Sid Justice... despite the fact he was gone in April.

Ok then.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on July 14, 2011, 05:08:29 AM
SID JUSTICE ADHERES NOT TO CALENDARS YOU GAME SHOW HOST-LIKE, POOR SCIENTIST OAF
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 14, 2011, 05:10:49 AM
SID JUSTICE ADHERES NOT TO CALENDARS YOU GAME SHOW HOST-LIKE, POOR SCIENTIST OAF

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/drvenkman21/TheBird.jpg)

1992 Crunk Birds.

There's a lot of Warrior vs. Sid Justice talk during Skinner vs. Warrior too. I swear he was gone after the UK tour in April...
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on July 14, 2011, 05:13:39 AM
I'll take any excuse to post this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9M5QjNWcHc#)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 14, 2011, 05:17:14 AM
Quote from: May 11, 1992 WON
The continuing saga of Sid Eudy took another strange turn this past week. The former Sid Vicious, now Sid Justice at least as of last week, was officially suspended for a period of no less than six weeks by the World Wrestling Federation for its all-inclusive term, "unprofessional conduct." This came after Justice stormed out of the Boston Garden after a match last Sunday night with the Ultimate Warrior because he was unhappy over either the way they were going to the finish, the finish itself (the finish was him losing via disqualification in about 4:00), and/or the working proficiency of his opponent (which many have termed a pot calling the kettle black story).

Guess I was off.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 15, 2011, 05:51:57 AM
I notice they keep calling Nailz "The Convict".

I don't remember Crush having a spinebuster (a very, very bad looking spinebuster) as a finisher before the head vice, but there it is. The post match show of sportsmanship spot is amusing.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 15, 2011, 06:19:52 AM
"Finally, you’ll meet the newest member of the Heenan Family – one of WWE’s longest employees!"

So that's why Patterson likes him so much.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 15, 2011, 07:37:43 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/drvenkman21/ShangoCurse.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/drvenkman21/CursedWarrior.jpg)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 15, 2011, 09:03:07 AM
I always wondered why Shango didn't put a curse on Backlund & Flair at Rumble 93.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 15, 2011, 09:08:46 AM
I also didn't realize when I capped that Warrior photo that they actually used the same screencap for their "Next Week" graphics.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 15, 2011, 09:11:43 AM
DIRTY DICK SLATER gets a WCW Title shot on Saturday Night. Fucking awesome!
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 15, 2011, 09:14:51 AM
Next episode challenger: THE BOOTY MAN.

Quite the run of challengers here.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 15, 2011, 09:23:21 AM
And Sgt Craig Pittman before him. I'll weep when Flair loses the title in April since this run against what appears to be a Lethal Lottery of challengers rules.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 21, 2011, 01:00:36 AM
Debbie Philpott-Martin checks in with this Facebook comment for WWEClassics . . .

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why did u leave regular tv. U lost alot of fans when u left us hanging and the bad part is these r your fans also but guess we don't count. Hate to tell u this but there is more fans out there but too poor to subscribe to cable or internet but oh ya we don't count we r just here to work our fingers to the bone for little wages and no enjoyment in tv land. thanks wwe for nothing here in the midwest
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 21, 2011, 01:21:15 AM
I still can't believe WWEClassics.com's audacity to move SmackDown to Syfy.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 21, 2011, 04:57:46 AM
I also see they mentioned that August's theme is the 15th anniversary of the nWo.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 21, 2011, 05:37:17 AM
Which likely means nWo Souled Out 1997 as the ppv . . . drat.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on July 21, 2011, 09:49:28 AM
I'll listen to Bryan and Vinny review it again.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 21, 2011, 11:32:26 AM
Too bad they only view old shows 25 minutes at a time.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 27, 2011, 10:24:24 AM
Bummed to see that the Repo Man/Bulldog angle was too hot for WWEClassics.com as the Update segment that aired it was lopped off the 5/9/92 SuperStars.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: TheSSNintendo on July 30, 2011, 11:15:13 AM
I've been sorta watching the Wrestling Challenge episodes from 1986. By watching, I mean I'm mostly skimming through those episodes. Are the shows from 1986 that bland?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: JHawk on July 30, 2011, 12:09:04 PM
I've been sorta watching the Wrestling Challenge episodes from 1986. By watching, I mean I'm mostly skimming through those episodes. Are the shows from 1986 that bland?
For the most part, yes, but wrestling TV in general was mostly about putting midcarders and above over jobbers and lower card guys in order to make the matches between the top guys at house shows mean something.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on July 30, 2011, 04:08:53 PM
There are actually more competitive matches in the 1986 eps than in other years. The problem is they don't have any big events to lead up to so it comes across like they're treading water, which they are.

Once the build to WrestleMania III occurs, things pick up.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: JHawk on July 30, 2011, 04:14:36 PM
I've been watching Challenge from May 1987, and while it was sweeps month which means they put more effort in anyway, there's some really great stuff around that time.  1986 is incredibly bland in comparison.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 01, 2011, 04:52:09 AM
Quote from: WWEClassics.com Facebook
Our new and improved WWEClassics.com will launch this week. When we have specific details, we will provide them.

Just like it launched in July. They also appeased someone by mentioning that Funk/Flair from GAB 89 will be part of the 100 Greatest Matches feature.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 01, 2011, 06:36:42 AM
Put me down for August 10th in the pool.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 02, 2011, 03:54:58 AM
Put me down for August 10th in the pool.

Looking good since they removed the comment about it launching this week.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: TheSSNintendo on August 02, 2011, 11:28:32 AM
I have no idea what's going on, and I emailed WWE.com's PPV Customer Service twice about it, but I got emails from them saying that my account has been cancelled and stuff like that. Anybody know what's going on? The site won't even let me update my card info.

Edit: Nevermind. I think I got the answer I was looking for. They're migrating all the accounts to the new server.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 02, 2011, 01:33:13 PM
The latest from the WWECLASSICS.com team . . .

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Yes we will be updating on a new upgraded service with higher quality videos including 4 episodes of Superstars. Please stay tuned!

Quick update: WWEClassics.com will be upgraded hopefully this week. New features include: finding matches based on shows, Gimmick Match, company and Championship. Later in August we will reveal a full Superstar section with nearly 200 profiles. Each profile will be connected to every video they are in! These tools will make it possible for you to find anything you're looking for.

Trust us when we say the WWEClassics.com team has not taken a days break for months on this project. This is for you the subscribers and we want it to be as perfect and easily accessible as possible.

I still stand by my prediction of the 10th. And I know I say it at least once a page but I'm still hoping the WMV links will remain an option. I checked out the free WWECLASSICS.com moment of the week (it was an nWo ad). Anyways, the quality of the video really wasn't much better than what's currently offered. If anything, it gets more pixelated that the way the current videos uploaded are.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 02, 2011, 01:54:58 PM
I'd like to point out that some of those "new features", specifically making sections for match gimmicks and championship matches, are things they dropped from the service for no real reason (maybe the layout change?) ages ago. I'm glad they're back though - sometimes I just want to quickly look up a battle royal.

Was it as pixelated as the MITB ad? Because that was terrible.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 02, 2011, 10:35:38 PM
Not quite as bad as that but the subtle changes in quality as you're watching the video is kind of annoying. I couldn't take my eyes of the WWE watermark to judge picture clarity.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 04, 2011, 06:02:07 AM
Tyler Dreaver has a simple question for WWECLASSICS . . .

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im hopin to get WWE Classics soon do you get full length episodes of WWF RAW, WCW Nitro/Thunder, ECW and all full WWF/WWE/ECW/WCW ppvs (Royal Rumble, Wrestlemania,Summerslam,Starrc​ade,Halloween Havoc etc.. ? plz let me know
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 04, 2011, 09:25:25 AM
(http://us.wwe.com/f/ep/image/2011/08/20110803_greatest_matches.jpg)
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Thanks for stopping by. We're not up right now, but will return soon with HD-quality subscription videos, and a brand-new name: WWEGreatestMatches.com

Souled Out 97 was also confirmed by facebook.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: TheSSNintendo on August 05, 2011, 11:43:04 AM
Greatest Matches has finally launched. That's the good thing. The bad thing is that they don't have the links up for all the old Wrestling Challenge episodes.

Edit: Nevermind. I read on Facebook that they will add the older episodes this coming week.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 05, 2011, 11:54:41 AM
The site is kind of a mess. The videos taking upwards of a minute to get up to the quality they usually are doesn't help either. You have to click the video to read the blurb about it rather than having it there under the video. Doesn't look like playlists are possible.

Hopefully, they don't take the WMV files off the server.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: hurrifan123 on August 05, 2011, 02:18:36 PM
I noticed there are different ways to view videos. Click on the middle one...that's the easiest. It has the full description and photo.

I'm mixed on the site. I see what they're doing and are probably going to make a boatload of money off of people buying individual matches and shows. I guess if they continue to offer the same amount of content each month and new full episodes it will be worth my $4 a month.

I also read earlier they were going to add more videos next week. Hopefully free videos but my guess is they are going to digitize the entire library and try to sell everything for $1.99.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 05, 2011, 03:39:55 PM
I see they said the first Raw episode is free. Did the rest of the removed 93-94 Raws get put on the flash server? I have no damn idea because when I tried looking at the content there every page appeared blank. I'm going to try this from the regular computer instead of the laptop.

I did notice they raised the monthly price by a buck, something that was never mentioned prior. MC, does the "my videos" button not function as a playlist?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: hurrifan123 on August 05, 2011, 03:47:26 PM
They put 5 Raws up I think. On facebook they said they are adding the older shows as well.  Maybe they are doing 5 a week.

The site does need a big more organizing but I appreciate their effort. Clearly they wanted to create a way to find any video any way possible.

I saw the price change too, if they moved our credit cards over then legally we should not be obligated for the extra buck. I know its only $1 and I won't be the one on facebook or twitter who will bitch over it but it's still a bit unethical.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 05, 2011, 03:49:16 PM
If half of America can riot in the streets (or metaphorical internet streets) over Netflix charging two extra dollars, I worry what people will be saying on their facebook page. Someone is already mad they won't be refunded for the downtime (which I pointed out to them was all of a few hours).

I could be mistaken but this seems like a deal similar to when F4W/WO raised their price a dollar - if you're already recurring, it's the same price (I just noticed they did a standard charge today with the changeover for the old price) but new customers are a dollar more.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: hurrifan123 on August 05, 2011, 04:02:36 PM
Good to know! I didn't check.

In the end of the day, it's a steal for $4 or $5 and WWE clearly sees more value in offering videos at $1.99 a piece. From every class in college it's consumption 101, 30% of the subscribers will be 70% of the revenue.

That being said, if they put up a match I've never seen for $2 I see no reason why I wouldn't shell over the money if it's something I want to see. Nothing on there is unreasonable.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 05, 2011, 04:28:26 PM
I think I finally figured out how to navigate the site. It's still very buggy (there IS an option to let you read the description of a video as part of the list, but right now every time I select that view the screen goes grey and says "unknown error") and obviously not fully updated, but I think it will be pretty snazzy once the kinks are worked out.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/drvenkman21/ViewingError.jpg)

This is what I'm talking about.

Here's a tip for the buffering: I just click the... I don't know what the technical name for it would be, but the video time bar and that forces the video to buffer itself to the best resolution, otherwise it seems to stick around in super pixel mode no matter how long you wait. And I have to say, when it's running optimally, it really does look crisper than before.

I don't like how now matches are just listed as "1998" and what not. I liked it when they were dated.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 05, 2011, 04:59:47 PM
Why is Kato teaming with Bruce Mitchell of The Torch?

Edit: I misheard the name, that's why.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 06, 2011, 12:02:53 AM
It looks like the View Options has been fixed Venk.

I don't see a My Videos area. I see a My Library but it appears that's for stuff like ppv purchases.

Does the videos ever go from pixely to perfect all the way back to pixely in the span of a minute to anyone else? Clicking on the timebar didn't do the trick on my laptop.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: hurrifan123 on August 06, 2011, 12:32:38 AM
Honestly after about 20 seconds the picture is perfectly clear. I've had no problems at all.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 06, 2011, 02:03:58 AM
I figured out how to drag the timebar! Last night I was just randomly click it, now I see if you hold down you can drag it to whatever time you want.

The facebook page says Hogan is the HOFer this month, which is news to me. The way some of the matches popped up I was assuming it was Steamboat (like on CoD), but those were some of the "100 Greatest Matches" bleeding over I guess.

I was confused with My Videos / My Library since I hadn't used it yet.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: TheSSNintendo on August 06, 2011, 07:19:46 AM
Seems like the people posting over on Facebook are confused and clueless as hell.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 06, 2011, 07:30:25 AM
That's true, but now I'm confused too. If you read their FAQ / between the lines of their facebook posts, they really make it sound like a subscription ONLY gets you whatever 100 matches they list as "the greatest" and whatever their monthly line-up is. Anything outside of that is paid for "a la carte". That is to say, they won't be archiving things or moving over the Classics.com archive to this server (which makes no sense based on the fact they set up so many search filters, but it's what they're implying).
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 06, 2011, 12:20:12 PM
There's an odd veiled conversation on the June 20th Superstars about Mountie's shock stick making Sgt. Slaughter impotent.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: hurrifan123 on August 06, 2011, 12:46:39 PM
I give them 2 more weeks at most. They said they were archiving more videos I say we give them a chance. I'm not sure why some of you have problems viewing videos but to be perfectly honest my every clip looks DVD if not HD quality. I did get my computer 6 months ago.

I feel like I should complain but let's face it, WWE owns the footage ---- if they want to sell stuff for more or provide less they will. I'll still pay as long as it doesn't decrease the amount of videos.

Am I the only one who feels like he person (he/she) that posts on facebook is more of a fan than employee and almost realizes these changed are f'd up? It must suck sitting at a desk and being told you can't do your job as well as you can.  Because I'll be honest, whoever programs WWEClassics.com does a great job and is clearly a mark.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 06, 2011, 12:51:55 PM
My pc is about 5 years old but I get between 3-3.5 mbps of downstream. For me, it's pixely for a minute, snaps into nice crisp quality, then a bit later slowly degenerates back to pixelmania while I never had a problem streaming the WMV files.

And yes, I'm mostly just salty about not being able to hoard new links into the archive anymore.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: TheSSNintendo on August 06, 2011, 12:54:07 PM
I think I've pretty much gotten used to the new system. But how come some matches and shows (like the '93 Raw shows) are only available for "purchase" instead of "play now"?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 06, 2011, 12:57:41 PM
The only 93 Raw up is free for anyone, is it not?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 06, 2011, 01:06:32 PM
Yeah, I think you're right. This was probably a compromise made to make the 93-94 Raws available online.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: hurrifan123 on August 06, 2011, 06:26:43 PM
We all know how WWE works. They want to profit on Raws and classic matches. I'm kinda pissed but at the same time I understand why'd they do it. I don' necessarily agree but who cares what i think.

At least whoever runs facebook and twitter seems to care about what we think which is more than 99% of everyone else who works for the company. That probably means if sales in the service don't skyrocket next week Triple H....I mean Vince McMahon will fire whoever runs the service
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: hurrifan123 on August 06, 2011, 06:36:48 PM
Actually I'll go further, I took business and marketing classes in college. The one thing that stuck to me is that 20% of consumers will invest in 80% of a products revenue. I know it sucks and I'm not happy but if the facts support can we truly blame WWE?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 07, 2011, 04:36:21 AM
So I sent an e-mail groveling to Classics to upload the vids in wmv format as well as flash. They replied with a generic e-mail w/ just enough detail to show they read it.

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Hello,

Not sure if you could answer this or not, but I've been a subscriber to wweclassics.com since 2006. I see the new wwegreatestmatches.com site opened on Friday.

While my downstream moves at 3-3.5 mbps, I experience a lot of pixelation in the first minute of each video. Then, it gets crisp for a bit only for it to get pixelated again. The video quality on my end is inconsistent at best. A lot of users have posted this concern on the wweclassics facebook page.

The question I have is there any plans to take the same videos uploaded to the flash page and upload them as .wmv files like they were in the past? These files always played consistently and in top notch quality. I would very much miss not being able to use the Windows Media Player to view the videos posted.

Not sure of how much work it takes to upload the same file in both formats but being able to do this would make the service better for those whose Internet connections may be a little slower or are having trouble with the built-in media player. It would also be a great gesture to the customers being that the price of the service has also gone up by $1/month, $10/year.

Thank you very much for your time

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Greetings,

Thank you for your interest in our service. Please accept our sincere apologies for the inconvenience this may have caused to you.

As of now we donot have information about videos being uploaded in both flash and wmv format, once the information is available it will be posted on our website.  We are actively working to improve service levels and your feedback has proved to be invaluable.

We kindly request you to revisit our website periodically for the most recent updates.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: TheSSNintendo on August 07, 2011, 07:26:33 AM
I hope they fix the 6/6/92 episode of Superstars. It won't play.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 07, 2011, 07:53:05 AM
I do too, but I feel like I got the gist of it from 6/13.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 07, 2011, 09:41:02 AM
As per a post I just made in the DVD thread, the full 1 hour version of Angle/Lesnar does exist. Did they use this version when including it in the new "100 Greatest" list of matches, or is it the original commercial break version from the Jukebox days?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 09, 2011, 01:49:49 AM
I'm wondering if this a la carte nonsense is even available in Canada. I see no option to buy 1993 Raws or 1986 Challenges, or any SummerSlam matches, despite what facebook is saying.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 09, 2011, 02:19:39 AM
I can see it (well, not from my work cpu), but I don't know how much it is, I think it's $1.99/video.

I'll hang in there a couple more months since I'm an annual subscriber anyway. I'm hoping things will be fixed but if not, I'll pull the plug.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: hurrifan123 on August 09, 2011, 04:51:18 AM
I also give them a few more months. Seems like they are moving over videos (like SummerSlam, Challenges, etc.) but at a slower pace. Maybe this is a service worth re-investing into in 6 months when they got everything together.

I know I'm in the minority, but if they still provide me 20 hours of video for $5 then I have no problem with the ala carte stuff. It's when they start charging for every clip I'm going to be pissed. But this is mostly because I feel they have the fans who will purchase every video for $2 and make up all the money lost by us their loyal subscribers.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 09, 2011, 05:42:38 AM
I pay double for less on cable TV so the idea of monthly content that goes away forever isn't terribly upsetting to me, but that's not what I thought I was singing up for here. Basically I'm bluffing them with an angry facebook comment.

For those of you that can see the pay videos, where do they appear? For me, the "1993 Raw" section just shows the 1st episode and 1987 Challenge says "no videos".
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: TheSSNintendo on August 09, 2011, 10:14:45 AM
There's quite a few angry and upset people on Facebook about the a la carte stuff, and rightly so. Why should we have to pay extra to see an old episode of Wrestling Challenge from 1987 when subscribers already pay $4.95 a month or $49.95 a year? And WWE Classics doesn't seem to be answering anybody's questions about it.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 09, 2011, 10:42:03 AM
The a la carte full episodes are $2.99 while the individual matches are $1.99 according to an e-mail sent by WWE. Mercy me.

Paging Landy, any way we can hack our way into this system?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: hurrifan123 on August 09, 2011, 03:13:00 PM
Either they are raising prices or that's a mistake. I see full episodes for $1.99 on the service.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 10, 2011, 02:15:38 AM
This is getting ridiculous. I was charged the Classics.com rate on August 5th, and today I received an e-mail saying I was also charged the Greatest Matches rate. So, charged twice in a month for less content. Argh.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: hurrifan123 on August 10, 2011, 11:40:40 AM
Wow seems like they read the posts today. Someone up in Stamford must be scared of losing a job.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 10, 2011, 12:28:28 PM
I'm not able to check facebook from work - what's the gist?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: TheSSNintendo on August 10, 2011, 01:11:32 PM
They said something about taking care of the a la carte stuff tomorrow. I'm guessing it's related to the episodes.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 10, 2011, 01:12:58 PM
I'm still under the impression Canadians don't even have that option. At last check all the TV Show brackets were still empty.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: TheSSNintendo on August 10, 2011, 01:35:56 PM
This was in response to somebody's question why two WCW Saturday Night episodes were available to watch, but once said "purchase":

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‎4/6 should be included and 4/13 will be up hopefully soon. If anyone did pay for that episode please email wwepremiumsupport@acanow. This is item #1 we will fix tomorrow.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 10, 2011, 04:02:28 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/drvenkman21/HesOnFire.jpg)

Papa Shango represents the customer. The jobber represents a la carte.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on August 10, 2011, 07:54:37 PM
I've never seen this "a la carte" thing either and I'm in the UK. Must be a U.S only thing. I have empty TV shows brackets for Challenge 87 and Superstars 91 also and have for several days. I have no idea how it's possible to "hack in" and get the links to the videos or anything.

The quality thing is hit and miss for me so far, either plays fine after stopping it at the beginning for a minute or so and the quality keeps dropping in and out randomly.

Loved the Raw 4/8/96 show, quite a stacked show but there was no Nitro that night so this was skipped on Classics on Demand
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 10, 2011, 10:48:51 PM
When I checked last night, the only 1987 Challenge eps available are three from March.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: hurrifan123 on August 11, 2011, 05:35:44 PM
They obviously got problems...but have some good intentions. I say we give them til October 1st and I'm saying that because their theme for September sounds pretty good (I've never seen Slaughter vs. Patterson Alley Fight) and see what they do. If nothing changes I cancel.

I just feel like the service has always been about customer feedback dating back to WWE Universe days. Hopefully its the same dude/gal in charge of the service that's been in charge back then and they are really listening to our comments. I know it sounds weird but I actually felt when I posted on WWE Universe the "WWEClassics.com" person actually cared what we wrote. Now, I'm going to keep subscribing to pay some kids salary but if its the same person who is on facebook and he/she says they are taking feedback, I say we trust this person for 60 days. Honestly what's $10 in the end...they give us a lot of videos as it is and it's worth it...its just the old service was worth more.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 16, 2011, 01:34:27 AM
"We read your comments and listened. Today we are officially making ALL Raws from 1993 and 1996 free with an annual or monthly membership. We will continue this for all other TV shows as the month continues. Thank you for helping us make WWEGreatestMatches.com better for you! Each month we will add 5 more Raws from 1993 and 2 from 1996 onto our service. Those as well will be part of your membership."

And everything else? A different post from earlier:

"Going forward, every "current" episode added will not be put ala-carte for 6 months. This involves 1989 Challenge, 1992 Superstars, WCCW, 1996 WCW Saturday Night and 1996 Raw."
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 16, 2011, 03:37:53 AM
I cancelled my annual membership yesterday. It'll be good until early October. I still get a case of the blurs.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on August 16, 2011, 06:15:37 AM
Unless it's just me, looks like I can't access anymore of the old Windows Media Player files at all, except ones I've played already on this laptop (which I only got in May). Where a popup screen appeared before to log in, it instead links straight to the front page of the new site :(
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 16, 2011, 06:26:18 AM
Same here. Doesn't look like there's anyway to renew the DRM license.

I have since bought a 3TB external hard drive and been hitting up the torrent sites and been filling it up for the last few days. Most of it I have to delete cause the quality is so bad but some of it's pretty good.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 16, 2011, 07:35:51 AM
Their solution to the complaints makes it seem they have no idea what the complaints really were about - a change in the way the service has been presented for over 7 years - and in fact people also seem to not realize their complaints weren't really addressed (wow, how generous to leave shows off the a la carte list for 6 months instead of forever like they used to).
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: alkeiper on August 16, 2011, 08:14:12 AM
I canceled myself. It costs more for an inferior quality product that seems slow as hell to navigate. Not worth it for the little time I use it nowadays, especially when I have piles of dvds and plenty of options on Youtube.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 16, 2011, 09:19:00 AM
It probably would have been easier for everyone involved to just raise the price of the original service and call it a day.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 16, 2011, 09:24:05 AM
Didn't they have the "buy individually" option ages ago too? To re-do - poorly - the entire service, remove all the content, make is cost more, make the quality iffy, then outright confuse people by bringing back an old option under a new name in a way that says "give us more money" is one H!** of an awful business model.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 16, 2011, 09:57:50 AM
They sure did and I don't think there's anything wrong w/ that as long as you allow subscribers to access the content for free.

What they could have done at least was keep the price the same for those who were happy with just having the monthly content w/ the 100 Greatest Matches while making people pay an extra $1/mo (their current price) to get everything.

I can get the video to come in crisp for the 1st Raw but the 1992 SuperStars eps come in like they did in the old days. Fuzzy. Too bad my laptop doesn't have an antenna.

They really should have left the old site alone and just created their Flash page for users w/ Macs who couldn't view WMVs.

/Salty Monsoon
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 16, 2011, 10:01:15 AM
I think what makes it worse is they delayed the July videos to launch this, then didn't launch it until August, did a make good apology by proudly declaring "FULL VAULT ACCESS!" for a vault that is now gone and cannot be accessed at all.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 16, 2011, 01:40:40 PM
For shits & giggles, I'm watching NXT. Regal's heartbreaking story about his turtle Speedy being robbed by three snails was gripping.

Anyways, the NXT player is working flawlessly and in great quality.  So yeah, all Greatest Matches has to do is wander across the hall to figure out how to get their player to work. Or something like that.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: TheSSNintendo on August 17, 2011, 09:28:18 AM
Just curious, but is it worth buying season sets (Superstars, Raw, etc.) from Ioffer?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 17, 2011, 09:57:58 AM
I never thought about it because I just assumed the archive of every episode would exist in pristine (but edited) condition on WWE.com. Now I'm going to think about it.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on August 17, 2011, 10:59:01 AM
I've downloaded some torrents of WCW/WWF TV and I'd say the quality of most of it is 6-7/10. Not saying you won't get better/worse quality from ioffer but it's something to think about.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: TheSSNintendo on August 17, 2011, 11:49:42 AM
I've downloaded some torrents of WCW/WWF TV and I'd say the quality of most of it is 6-7/10. Not saying you won't get better/worse quality from ioffer but it's something to think about.

I used to download torrents, but I guess since I was inactive for a good while, PWTorrents deleted my account.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 19, 2011, 08:09:31 AM
They noted on facebook that they fixed the blurry issues and some other errors (I can actually go to the page without getting a "Unknown Error" box pop up, then I can read the August match descriptions without it freezing), but oddly, trying to watch Dolph/Bryan had more blur problems then I've ever had before.

They refunded me for the double billing though.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: hurrifan123 on August 20, 2011, 03:57:08 PM
OK they got my $5 but next month better have good stuff!
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 25, 2011, 03:46:01 PM
"If Hurricane Irene really does hit the Northeast and does damage to WWE headquarters in Stamford CT (lets hope it doesnt!!!!!), we'll post "Best of The Hurricane" on WWEGreatestMatches next week""
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Baby Shoes on August 25, 2011, 04:18:39 PM
Why do I have a feeling this will end with a drunk Greg Helms crashing a motorcycle into the building?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 28, 2011, 03:37:05 PM
They quietly removed that post a day or so ago, perhaps it was "insensitive"?

Speaking of removed posts, I know there was a post saying the September Exclusives were a MSG house show and a AWA tape (instead of Coliseum/WWE Home Video). This is what their September preview is as of a few days ago:

Quote
Quick preview of some incredible matches this September on WWEGreatestMatches.com

Christian vs. Randy Orton - Over the Limit 2011 - Our Instant Classic
Bret Hart is our Hall of Fame Spotlight featuring five classics not yet featured on WWEGreatestmatches.
Ric Flair vs. Ricky Steamboat - BoogieJam '84
Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels - WrestleMania 26
Eddie Guerrero vs. Dean Malenko - rarely seen ECW World Television Championship match

And much much more!
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Brodypedia on August 31, 2011, 10:52:43 AM
They quietly removed that post a day or so ago, perhaps it was "insensitive"?

Speaking of removed posts, I know there was a post saying the September Exclusives were a MSG house show and a AWA tape (instead of Coliseum/WWE Home Video). This is what their September preview is as of a few days ago:

Quote
Quick preview of some incredible matches this September on WWEGreatestMatches.com

Christian vs. Randy Orton - Over the Limit 2011 - Our Instant Classic
Bret Hart is our Hall of Fame Spotlight featuring five classics not yet featured on WWEGreatestmatches.
Ric Flair vs. Ricky Steamboat - BoogieJam '84
Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels - WrestleMania 26
Eddie Guerrero vs. Dean Malenko - rarely seen ECW World Television Championship match

And much much more!

Not to sound like a gimmick, but what AWA tape are they airing?  One of the 30 min or 1 hour VHS clip job specials?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Brodypedia on August 31, 2011, 10:58:49 AM
Just curious, but is it worth buying season sets (Superstars, Raw, etc.) from Ioffer?

I strongly support this

I have made a lot of purchases
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on August 31, 2011, 11:38:01 AM
They quietly removed that post a day or so ago, perhaps it was "insensitive"?

Speaking of removed posts, I know there was a post saying the September Exclusives were a MSG house show and a AWA tape (instead of Coliseum/WWE Home Video). This is what their September preview is as of a few days ago:

Quote
Quick preview of some incredible matches this September on WWEGreatestMatches.com

Christian vs. Randy Orton - Over the Limit 2011 - Our Instant Classic
Bret Hart is our Hall of Fame Spotlight featuring five classics not yet featured on WWEGreatestmatches.
Ric Flair vs. Ricky Steamboat - BoogieJam '84
Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels - WrestleMania 26
Eddie Guerrero vs. Dean Malenko - rarely seen ECW World Television Championship match

And much much more!

Not to sound like a gimmick, but what AWA tape are they airing?  One of the 30 min or 1 hour VHS clip job specials?

Unfortunately my DeLorean is in the shop but I might be able to tell you tomorrow.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on September 01, 2011, 04:54:48 AM
It's a video called Champions of the AWA.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Brodypedia on September 03, 2011, 10:31:51 PM
It's a video called Champions of the AWA.

Martel vs Jumbo
Martel vs Hayes
Verne vs Bockwinkel?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on September 10, 2011, 12:55:51 PM
I believe it's one of those Mean Gene hosted deals from after WCW went out of business but before WWE bought the AWA tape library.

I'll watch some Superstars.

It's not everyday I hear the Copps Coliseum called the "Victor Copps Coliseum", though that is part of the full name. Bulldog's opponent was named Dick Danger (I think - it sounded like Vince said "Nick" at another point) but he had no name graphic. Too bad, that would have been wacky photo material. Vince also noted that Bulldog "certainly took his ICOPRO". He sure did Vince.

I've noticed a theme in this episode where wrestlers visit places in their gear for no real reason. Tatanka at some place, LOD in Chicago... just wandering around in the open air in full wrestling attire.

Apparently Vince got Jane Fonda to be on Body Stars. He then noted "Ted Turner would make a good Kim Chee". First televised shot at Turner?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: JHawk on September 10, 2011, 01:36:37 PM
Is it just me, or is there no MSG show as advertised?  There is, however, NWO Souled Out which would have fit better last month.

I'm locked in with my annual subscription until February so hopefully things improve, but I'm getting less content for more money and am expected to pay even more for full access.  Not buying it.

That said, the Sammartino-Koloff and Valentine-Backlund matches they added this month I have never seen, so that was an hour and a half of staring at my computer right there.  Sammartino-Koloff is actually really good.  Valentine-Backlund is actually disappointing but I loved some of the subtle things Backlund did that nobody does today, like shaking his leg or hand to "get the circulation back" while locked in a hold.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on September 10, 2011, 01:39:16 PM
There was a technical difficulty with the MSG show. They promise it will be around a full 30 days from whenever it's put up.

Big Bossman keeps calling Nailz "Nills" on the July 4th episode.

RICK MARTEL VS JASON KNIGHT (aka ECW's JASON)!? What arrogance confined to one ring!
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on September 21, 2011, 04:17:03 AM
Tony Chimel is doing ring announcing on the 7/18/92 Superstars. According to wikipedia he started announcing in 1991 at house shows, but I was still surprised by this - I thought Tony "graduated" into ring announcing from being a ring boy (there are some shows in 93 or 94 where you can clearly see him taking entrance attire - I think Mania X is one of them).
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on September 21, 2011, 05:51:00 AM
There's some Capital Center shows from 1985 where a young Chimel can be seen doing the ringboy job, but in much more casual Garvin-friendly attire.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on September 21, 2011, 06:11:17 AM
The earliest footage I've seen Chimel doing ring announcing is on a 1989 Spectrum show. The latest I remember seeing him still being a ringboy was either on some 1995 or 1996 Raw episodes. I guess he's a multi-tasker liker Mark Yeaton (who I'm sure I've seen do timekeeping, refereeing and even ring announcing at some point)

Sucks I can't even watch the service now, when my yearly subscription ended at the beginning of September, it didn't automatically renew like it used to and I now can't subscribe at all as for some reason it's not available in the UK at the moment. This is what I get whenever I go to the site now:

(http://i53.tinypic.com/2rotis3.jpg)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on September 21, 2011, 07:27:56 AM
That's kind of an obnoxious graphic.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on September 23, 2011, 06:57:55 AM
Quote
WWE LEGAL NOTICE
by WWE Greatest Matches on Friday, September 23, 2011 at 3:11pm

The textual, photographic, video, audio, and combined audiovisual programs and products resulting from the World Wrestling Entertainment, Inc.'s events and television programs, including the material contained in this web site, are protected under U.S. and international laws as copyrighted works. Anyone who displays, reproduces, copies, creates derivative works, or sells our textual, photographic, video or audiovisual programs for commercial or non-commercial purposes without our permission violates the copyright laws and is liable for copyright infringement.

Likewise, the World Wrestling Entertainment, Inc.'s trademarks and service marks, including not only its world famous WWE and WWE marks, but also the names of its superstars, are protected by state, federal, and international trademark laws. Any person who uses our marks for commercial or non-commercial purposes without our permission on goods or services in such a way that it dilutes the distinctive quality of our marks or that creates the likelihood of confusion with our marks is liable for trademark infringement.

 Liability for copyright or trademark infringement involves the potential for significant civil damages, including in particular cases, statutory damages, liability for up to three times actual damages, and attorneys fees.

So... no screencaps?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on September 23, 2011, 07:13:46 AM
Well, that certainly is a lot of words

/Peterman
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on September 30, 2011, 03:36:19 PM
Kind of odd to hear Sean Mooney reference Lex Luger's "great success as a wrestler" after a WBF Magazine was advertised considering Luger had zero matches ever in the WWF. I'm not used to them acknowledging things like that.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Ed on October 04, 2011, 09:10:36 PM
...There was a WBF Magazine?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: JHawk on October 10, 2011, 12:08:56 PM
...There was a WBF Magazine?
Sadly, yes.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on October 10, 2011, 12:19:35 PM
...There was a WBF Magazine?
Sadly, yes.

Here's something from my vintage collection of screencaps I had ready just in case someone ever asked about WBF Magazine:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/drvenkman21/WBFMag.jpg)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Ed on October 11, 2011, 07:27:09 AM
I didn't even realize the WBF was around long enough to even *have* a magazine. Don't think the XFL ever got one.

How long was the WBF around before everyone stopped caring about it?
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: alkeiper on October 11, 2011, 07:45:08 AM
I didn't even realize the WBF was around long enough to even *have* a magazine. Don't think the XFL ever got one.

How long was the WBF around before everyone stopped caring about it?
Three minutes
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Paperback Ryback on October 11, 2011, 07:46:50 AM
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b1/pbar/IMG_0813.jpg)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on October 11, 2011, 07:53:39 AM
From watching a bunch of Superstars (1991-1992) over the past few years, and from what I recall reading in Retro WONs, they did a big show in the summer 1991 that no one cared about, but apparently people cared enough that it went on for another year. EVERY episode of Superstars had plugs for WBF, Gary Strydom, the "Fitness Expo", and as time went on, ICOPRO, Family Feud, and WBF Bodystars on the USA Network. Bodystars apparently continued for a bit after the WBF more or less folded but, like he did with TNT, Vince just left the show before it was actually dropped.

In the magazine cover pictured, you see Lou Ferrigno of King of Queen's and WrestleMania VII fame. As soon as Vince pushed WBF as the "all natural" bodybuilding company, Lou quit. Lex Luger was promoted as appearing at the 2nd WBF PPV, but an automobile accident prevented that. It didn't matter since the "all natural" competition was having - as one would imagine if you've ever seen a single "BodyStar" - various wellness violations (obviously that term didn't exist back then but it's easier to say) and the whole thing was a disaster. Although I think WWEGM is editing the Bodystars recaps off right now (the episodes are 2 minutes shorter than they should be and there are commentary mentions of the tug of war episode that the WWF heels won), you can really get a sense that after the 2nd show happened in the summer of 1992, they just gradually stopped talking about it and then it went away.

No post about WBF Bodystars is complete without this:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/drvenkman21/BodyStarsVince.jpg)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Paperback Ryback on October 11, 2011, 08:13:47 AM
Speaking of...

WWF/WBF Bodystar Wars Challenge (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qAyHYciFVw#)
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on October 11, 2011, 08:16:48 AM
I think that video is where I got the shirt screencap from.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Brodypedia on October 16, 2011, 02:21:41 AM
I didn't even realize the WBF was around long enough to even *have* a magazine. Don't think the XFL ever got one.

How long was the WBF around before everyone stopped caring about it?

The XFL got a preview in at least 1 Pro Football Preview type book - mostly a list of NFL guys who were going over to play.  I remember Street and Smith or somesuch doing a mocking review of the league after Tommy Maddox won the Million Dollar Game...
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on November 02, 2011, 12:00:34 PM
Could anyone be so kind as to type up a list of the full update for this month. They still won't let UK fans subscribe, which means you can't even look what's been added, but I'm hoping if there's anything pretty good or rare been added that I can get it somewhere else. Someone on Facebook said Bruno Sammartino vs Stan Hansen from Shea Stadium was added, is that legit?
Thanks
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on November 02, 2011, 12:13:42 PM
It looked like a good portion of it was stuff that was removed from the old Classics.com WMV archive. The 6 man elimination tag match sticks out in that respect. I'll go over it from home later (it's too flash intensive to load on the work computers).
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on November 02, 2011, 04:21:16 PM
http://assets.csg.wwe.com/schedule/20111101_GM_schedule.pdf (http://assets.csg.wwe.com/schedule/20111101_GM_schedule.pdf) has the list if you're able to access it. Every non-Instant Classic match is from MSG, so that is not there. Sammartino vs. Hansen might be on CoD since they are also running a NYC themed month and I'm missing one of the Shorties.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on November 05, 2011, 06:32:17 AM
Reliving the Warrior/Savage/Perfect angle for SummerSlam 92 has been fun. The go-home Superstars is especially good, with both Warrior and Savage doing extended promos / conspiracy theories about who Perfect is working for, pointing out every little thing that has gone down over the past few weeks and why they think each other are liars. Way more thought went into this angle than I remembered, it's really good.
Title: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on November 05, 2011, 11:31:34 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/drvenkman21/RazorWatchingRazor.jpg)

I loved that screen.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on December 09, 2011, 08:55:12 AM
The 9//26/92 Superstars has an Event Center promo where The Mountie has nothing to say, so he sings his theme for his segment, thus making it the best Event Center promo ever.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on December 13, 2011, 07:59:22 AM
So, when COD gets canceled, I'm going to get this. Am I wasting my time?
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on December 13, 2011, 08:01:17 AM
Not really. It's very much like CoD since they stopped archiving things. They technically archive them but they want money after a certain period of time per video.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on December 15, 2011, 10:38:02 AM
You're pretty much responsible for me just getting it then and being so struck that I really don't know what the hell to watch.

And I started with a Hacksaw match. LOL. Of all the things...
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on December 15, 2011, 10:53:10 AM
Downloaded some PTWs and Challenges and really enjoyed the synergy of the whole Gorilla has an invitation to the premiere while the Brain doesn't shtick they've been doing.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on December 15, 2011, 11:05:23 AM
And then Brain goes anyway.

I pretty much watch Superstars then forget there's other things there. Challenge will be added to that viewing soon.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on December 26, 2011, 08:26:04 AM
The Taker/Warrior bodybag match from MSG is the greatest thing I've ever seen.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on December 26, 2011, 08:46:46 AM
And then Brain goes anyway.

I pretty much watch Superstars then forget there's other things there. Challenge will be added to that viewing soon.

Brain will be going away from Challenge soon too.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: JHawk on December 26, 2011, 12:22:54 PM
Brain only leaves Challenge for a couple of months though and then is back.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on December 26, 2011, 01:57:59 PM
As long he's replaced by Tony and not Alfred, Superstar, or one of those goons that only did shows on the PRISM network.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: JHawk on December 26, 2011, 02:03:25 PM
IIRC (haven't watched the 1989 episodes since they originally aired) they went with a three man group of Gorilla, Heenan and Tony before Heenan "quit" on air to do the Bobby Heenan Show, leaving Gorilla and Tony as a two man unit.  Relatively sure it was back to Heenan and Gorilla before 1989 was over
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on December 28, 2011, 12:00:21 AM
Heenan doesn't come back to Challenge until the week after WrestleMania.6 so hes gone a good 9 months or so
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on December 28, 2011, 02:41:49 AM
Tony was there that long? I thought he vanished after the Rumble (but of course, I've never seen any TV between the Rumble and Mania).
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on January 04, 2012, 02:25:49 AM
I kept wondering why the Money Inc. / Natural Disasters match was being advertised for Superstars when I specifically remembered it from Challenge, but apparently they just threw it over to Monsoon and Heenan at the beginning of the show. It was pretty neat seeing Superstars do a cut in with Challenge (which I posted a picture of elsewhere).

Who the hell is Joe Beben?

They keep the Tom Petty music video for Bret Hart on the November 7/92 Superstars, but they just dub over the song with Bret's 2010 theme. Then Vince makes references to "making some noise". Better then cutting it, I guess.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on January 06, 2012, 12:16:26 PM
Dusty on commentary for the Mysterio/Ultimo Dragon match on there..."Sonny Onoo is the snake in the rice paddy."

Wow
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on January 13, 2012, 10:16:52 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/drvenkman21/WrestlingChallengeLogo2.jpg)

Didn't realize the days of the jazzy Challenge theme were gone.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on January 19, 2012, 04:05:34 PM
From facebook:

"This February we will be featuring programming changes with our full episodes. We're ADDING additional episodes of our most watched programs while reducing the episode count of other series. To those wondering, yes, this means more episodes of Raw and WCW Saturday Night in February."

I hope this doesn't negatively impact Superstars, I love it that they went to back to 4 episodes a month.

Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on January 20, 2012, 03:49:02 AM
Ah cripes, I was getting used to pulling torrents of the 1989 Challenge eps.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on January 20, 2012, 03:51:09 AM
That's also the series I assumed was being cut (which means a longer wait for the build to Mania VI). I would have assumed WCCW but that's only one episode anyway.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on January 20, 2012, 04:46:47 AM
I found WCCW to be tough to sit through when I was a subscriber. I'm sure at the time it was excellent, but I just couldn't get into a lot of those characters.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on January 20, 2012, 04:58:47 AM
I felt the same way watching it on CoD. The Chessmaster and Al Madrill sure show up a lot.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on January 24, 2012, 05:58:34 AM
Superstars confirmed to remain at 4 per month.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on January 24, 2012, 06:13:18 AM
Challenge confirmed to be at 1 episode per year. I'd love to see these syndicated shows pop up on the WWE Network.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on February 01, 2012, 03:11:47 AM
Watching WCW Saturday Night with the American Males facing Men at Work. I pretty much hate the American Males, so I nearly shut it off...

And now Brutus comes out as The Booty Man and won in about 30 seconds. Dusty's commentary is by far the best part of this show.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on February 01, 2012, 04:36:59 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/drvenkman21/WorstCameramanIveEverSeen.jpg)

Heenan: "This is the worst cameraman I've ever seen! I've been sitting here for 10 minutes looking at the back heads of the Ramon family and the Lopez family! Who cares about them?! I want to see some action in the ring!"

I fondly remember this awful camera work during Steiners / Money Inc. from my 1993 rental of the Global Warning video.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on February 01, 2012, 06:53:51 AM
That was pretty great. Even Savage had to agree with the Brain about that.

I remember when I first rented that video being pretty jazzed about seeing an Undertaker vs Yokozuna match at the end of the tape which I believe wasn't even advertised on the box.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on February 06, 2012, 08:19:23 AM
The 11/14/92 Superstars seems to be an episode done for markets that didn't air the show on Saturday morning / aired the show on Sunday. Instead of Repo Man vs. Bulldog, they show Michaels winning the IC title "last night" on SNME. Perfect even noted Bulldog shouldn't have defended the title twice in one day (which is weird, since in this continuity of Superstars, there was no other match).
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on February 06, 2012, 09:49:47 AM
Can't say it wasn't fair to the Bulldog since Shawn Michaels had to wrestle the Big Boss Man on the Saturday Challenge show that weekend.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on February 06, 2012, 09:55:38 AM
Their February schedule lists zero episodes of Challenge.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on February 06, 2012, 10:40:03 AM
Oh yuck.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on February 06, 2012, 10:44:20 AM
I'm going to assume it's because they did 5 episodes of Raw (to make up for WCWSN skipping a week, I guess) and the usual plan is one episode.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on February 06, 2012, 07:50:20 PM
Can someone post links to this months and last months schedule? Thanks.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on February 07, 2012, 02:51:36 AM
http://assets.csg.wwe.com/schedule/Feb2012_officialschedule.pdf (http://assets.csg.wwe.com/schedule/Feb2012_officialschedule.pdf)

I tried changing Feb to Jan for last month but that didn't work.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on February 10, 2012, 10:22:23 AM
All these WCWSN episodes have caused me to realize Public Enemy was the worst team ever.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on February 10, 2012, 05:41:32 PM
All these WCWSN episodes have caused me to realize Public Enemy was the worst team ever.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/drvenkman21/SpecialBulletin.jpg)

(Sorry, just wanted to use that)
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on February 10, 2012, 11:24:16 PM
What did that Special Bulletin pertain to?
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on February 11, 2012, 02:43:01 AM
Mr. Perfect teaming up with Randy Savage (who ditched his red and yellow Ultimate Maniacs gear for an outfit based on Catwoman from Batman Returns)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/drvenkman21/PerfectTeam.jpg)

The news was sponsored by:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/drvenkman21/ManiaGenesis.jpg)

(That's a lie - that's from a different week).  Ric Flair and Razor Ramon were not happy, and Flair wore some odd looking tie!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/drvenkman21/RazorFlairTie.jpg)
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Bernie Bro Kamala on February 11, 2012, 04:52:18 AM
All these WCWSN episodes have caused me to realize Public Enemy was the worst team ever.
I marked out so hard for them randomly winning the tag team titles. I was also a big fan of ICP's run with the Oddities (and didn't even know they were a horrible rap group at the time). Kid Kamala was just a big fan of unathletic wigger tag teams.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on February 11, 2012, 03:37:15 PM
One thing that pissed me off about the 11/21 Superstars was on the 11/14 show, they advertised Warrior/Shango FINALLY being paid off on TV for that episode, and despite knowing full well that Warrior being gone from the company meant the match wouldn't air, somehow I still was looking forward to it (despite knowing it probably sucked). Naturally, it was not mentioned on the 11/21 show at all. I was happy to finally see Bret Hart vs. Virgil though.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on February 14, 2012, 05:42:09 AM
There's a Hogan/Funk match added with this month's content that is superb. Of all the Hogan matches I've seen, top ten at least.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on March 02, 2012, 04:14:11 PM
Hooray, Jerry Lawler debuts on Superstars!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/drvenkman21/LawlerDebut.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/drvenkman21/LawlerDebut2.jpg)
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on March 03, 2012, 03:19:56 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/drvenkman21/Superstars1993AnnounceTeam.jpg)

New for 93!
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 04, 2012, 12:58:11 PM
Owen whining about Marc Mero trying to hit him on the arm that had a cast around it during the 6/17 Raw was glorious.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 05, 2012, 08:41:54 AM
Quote
Dear redacted
 
Please be aware that you will be experiencing content access modifications with your Greatest Matches subscription within the next few weeks.  We will keep you informed of these changes as we move forward.
 
Thank you for your loyal support.
 
WWE Services

Ugh...I don't have a good feeling about this.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on March 05, 2012, 11:37:58 AM
It could be good. History says it won't, but it could be the return of WMV storable links, or even better, a partnership for an app on the 360 / Roku / whatever people use to get video on their TV.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on March 06, 2012, 03:29:29 AM
Quote from: Facebook post
No guide as we are not breaking down our videos into multiple sections. They are full episodes, new this month, Introducing, Exclusives. All sections will be linked on the front page.

I don't quite understand what that means. "We're not breaking down into multiple sections. Here are the multiple sections that will be linked".
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on March 06, 2012, 04:17:15 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/drvenkman21/WWFHappyHolidays.jpg)

I'll have to remember I have this handy this December.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: JHawk on March 08, 2012, 02:10:31 AM
Quote
Dear redacted
 
Please be aware that you will be experiencing content access modifications with your Greatest Matches subscription within the next few weeks.  We will keep you informed of these changes as we move forward.
 
Thank you for your loyal support.
 
WWE Services

Ugh...I don't have a good feeling about this.
Right about the time I received this e-mail I lost all access.  My order history says it was completely removed...five days after I paid to renew it.  And their response:

Quote
Thank you for your inquiry!



WWE is in the planning stage of modifying the Greatest Matches product offering. Please be aware that when visiting the site you will experience some content access modifications within the next few weeks, however, access to the content you already enjoy will continue until further notification. We will keep you informed as we move forward.


Thank You,
WWE Premium Support
So my inquiry is asking why my subscription was removed and I can't access content, and their response is I can still enjoy the content?
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on March 08, 2012, 02:39:33 AM
I received no e-mail about anything, I just read the message on the main site.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: JHawk on March 08, 2012, 04:12:58 AM
So when I reiterated that my subscription had been cancelled without my knowledge, the response was "Do you know if you cancelled your subscription?"  So I respond with "I just renewed it less than two weeks ago, why would I cancel it?"  They responded with instructions on how to cancel my subscription.

I'm one step away from calling Titan Tower directly because right now I'm starting to think Vince Russo is in charge of WWE Greatest Matches.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 08, 2012, 04:21:00 AM
They did that to me a few weeks ago and I was still able to watch everything.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: JHawk on March 08, 2012, 07:58:42 AM
Can't watch a thing.  Even the brand new stuff, including full episodes, is requiring a payment.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: hurrifan123 on March 08, 2012, 10:20:46 AM
Haven't wrote on here for a while but wanted to tell you same thing happened to me. I called WWE and got directed to someone in WWE.com (I think)? He said that no members were being charged for the month of March as they're making changes. I could tell by his voice he wasn't going to say anymore. If I'm not getting charged I guess I can't complain too much?
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on March 08, 2012, 11:49:42 AM
I saw they just posted a whole bunch of free matches on their youtube account today too (which is blocked outside of the US).
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: hurrifan123 on March 08, 2012, 12:00:17 PM
maybe youtube purchased WWEGreatestMatches rights to air for free on their site. You know to beat out Netflix? I do live in America and have access, the matches really nothing special...about 3 hours of videos each month I guess.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: JHawk on March 08, 2012, 12:04:32 PM
I finally, after they sent me the same form response they sent me the first time, e-mailed asking for a phone number to talk to a human being, and they sent me an e-mail asking me to open a ticket.  We'll give it 24 hours and see what happens.

Honestly, if it wasn't for the fact that THREE separate e-mails said I could still access content when my issue was that I couldn't access content, I'd have probably waited a few days before follow up
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on March 09, 2012, 02:51:56 AM
There's a Marty Jannetty promo on the 12/26 Superstars where he notes he has to give Shawn "his propers". I guess that's where "props" comes from, though I don't recall ever hearing the term "I'll give you propers".

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/drvenkman21/SuperstarsHappyNewYear.jpg)
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: hurrifan123 on March 11, 2012, 01:06:43 AM
Well they just created a new wwe.com and according to their article WWEGreatestMatches is now free! That's one way to keep us from complaining.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on March 11, 2012, 01:21:31 AM
That would explain why my account says "$0" for March and made it appear cancelled, but still works.

The downside here is this means I can't complain about things and they'll probably reduce content. Or not, I don't know.

Already I don't know where to find full episodes, if they even exist anymore. Part of that is I'm at work and the browser is very bad on fancy websites.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Monsoon Classic on March 11, 2012, 01:37:47 AM
Some of the videos are coming up "Posted 1 minute ago" while others come up "Posted 42 years ago" so I'm guessing they'll be updating it this week or so.

The VQ is much improved/stable now that it's free so this is an easy bookmark.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on March 11, 2012, 01:44:01 AM
With regard to the VQ, it had been getting better since the Summer launch (or it seemed so anyway), with it being very Netflix like - it started bad but actually cleared up very quickly into playing and generally maintained. Sometimes it would go all pixely at random though.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: hurrifan123 on March 11, 2012, 01:55:23 AM
I wish they had a "list all" on there. I am finding a lot of matches but have no idea how much is on the site. The fact that they did mention the service on that article leads me to believe they will update it often.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on March 11, 2012, 01:56:24 AM
I'm at work so I can't check - what does their Facebook page have to say about this?
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: hurrifan123 on March 11, 2012, 01:59:52 AM
Nothing
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 11, 2012, 04:15:40 AM
On the downside, they'll update it much less I bet. But now I don't have to pay for it.  Hopefully I'm wrong.

I already don't like how much less indexed it is.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 11, 2012, 04:21:22 AM
Already I don't know where to find full episodes, if they even exist anymore. Part of that is I'm at work and the browser is very bad on fancy websites.

I see none. They're gone. I believe all the stuff they uploaded this month is gone too...ugh.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on March 11, 2012, 04:38:44 AM
Well, let's label it a "work in progress" for now and see what happens.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Venkman on March 11, 2012, 08:02:24 AM
So I'm home from work and guess what? It's for America only now. Not even North America - Canada has been booted out like the UK was last Summer.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 11, 2012, 08:06:32 AM
Ray Charles Sings America The Beautiful WWF WrestleMania 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLDrlpUBpLY#)
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: hurrifan123 on March 11, 2012, 10:03:44 AM
I will get enjoyment over the many "smart" fans on Facebook not being able to understand that the service is free.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: JHawk on March 11, 2012, 01:42:01 PM
So has anybody who was paying for the annual service and had time left on it getting any portion of their money refunded?

Honestly, I'd just renewed for the year.  If the service is free (and nearly impossible to navigate to boot) you'd think they'd at least do a prorated refund.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 11, 2012, 02:06:25 PM
I considered buying annual, then I realized I couldn't trust WWE to do ANYTHING and changed my mind. Bullet dodged....
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: landy1987 on March 24, 2012, 09:13:01 AM
Could someone who can still watch the videos (I guess you guys in the U.S only right?) tell me which matches these are? I'm guessing from 1987 if they still have the theme but am curious if it's some rarer matches or not, thanks.

http://www.wwe.com/videos/50000-battle-royal-26004276 (http://www.wwe.com/videos/50000-battle-royal-26004276)
http://www.wwe.com/videos/billy-jack-haynes-vs-hercules-26004270 (http://www.wwe.com/videos/billy-jack-haynes-vs-hercules-26004270)
http://www.wwe.com/videos/demolition-vs-killer-bees-26004271 (http://www.wwe.com/videos/demolition-vs-killer-bees-26004271)
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 30, 2012, 08:41:35 AM
Could someone who can still watch the videos (I guess you guys in the U.S only right?) tell me which matches these are? I'm guessing from 1987 if they still have the theme but am curious if it's some rarer matches or not, thanks.

http://www.wwe.com/videos/50000-battle-royal-26004276 (http://www.wwe.com/videos/50000-battle-royal-26004276)
http://www.wwe.com/videos/billy-jack-haynes-vs-hercules-26004270 (http://www.wwe.com/videos/billy-jack-haynes-vs-hercules-26004270)
http://www.wwe.com/videos/demolition-vs-killer-bees-26004271 (http://www.wwe.com/videos/demolition-vs-killer-bees-26004271)

Battle Royal is from Maple Leaf Gardens.

Billy Jack/Hercules match is from MSG.

Demos against Killer Bees is from Houston, also on DVD.

They added a whole bunch of stuff today. I feel bad for the people outside of the country, but they haven't even added everything yet and there's a pile of good stuff on there. I've seen very little of it before.
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: JHawk on April 02, 2012, 12:08:54 PM
Looks like Hall of Fame month as I went on last night and saw a bunch of Mil Mascaras and Yokozuna stuff.  Hard to tell since only like then things are on screen at any given time
Title: Re: The WWE.com Legacy Thread
Post by: hurrifan123 on April 09, 2012, 09:32:18 AM
Well it turns out I didn't get a refund like I thought I would. I got through to someone at WWE who helped me out. I then asked why the changes with GreatestMatches and he responded saying that the guy who was programming it before was moved over to the Network to help create classic programming there. They said they were using social media and market research to determine what people want to watch and will supply 15+ hours a month of that. I asked about full episodes but he had no idea we ever aired full episodes of old shows but thought that was a good idea and would mention it to others.