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Title: UFC 226
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 28, 2018, 08:21:28 AM
Main Card (PPV)

Daniel Cormier vs Stipe Miocic- HW Championship
Derrick Lewis vs Francis Ngannou
Michael Chiesa vs Anthony Pettis
Gokhan Saki vs Khalil Rountree Jr.
Mike Perry vs Paul Felder

Prelims (FS1)

Uriah Hall vs Paulo Costa
Raphael Assuncao vs Rob Font
Curtis Millender vs Max Griffin
Lando Vanatta vs Drakkar Klose

Prelims (Fight Pass)

Dan Hooker vs Gilbert Burns
Jamie Moyle vs Emily Whitmire

First injury of the show just a week out, Yancy Medeiros has a broken rib and is out of his fight with Mike Perry. Paul Felder and Tim Means are amongst the names who've offered to step in.

Pleeeeeeease let that be the only injury. This card is a motherfucker.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: Youth N Asia on June 28, 2018, 10:36:43 AM
Sounds like Paul Felder is the front runner to fight Perry.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: The Paper Industry on June 29, 2018, 02:09:53 AM
He got the fight, so this card looks like it can handle a little bad luck.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: on June 29, 2018, 08:03:53 AM
After thinking about this with some more time... I think the main event ends with Stipe finishing DC early in the third round. It's just been a long time since Cormier has been a Heavyweight, he's had some horrendous weight cuts at LHW, lost quite a bit of muscle mass, is much older now, and has taken a hell of a lot more punishment since then.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 29, 2018, 09:28:04 AM
I'm not going to use this as a counter argument but going over Stipe's record and it's very intriguing that not only has he never fought a wrestler on DC's level but he's never fought anybody who's main strength is wrestling. Literally nothing but grapplers and strikers.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: The Paper Industry on July 04, 2018, 02:18:55 PM
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damn this sounds serious
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on July 04, 2018, 03:14:44 PM
He should be banned from the weight class. Dude had his chance and can't cut safely. Time to move up.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 05, 2018, 12:04:32 AM
Looking at that UFC Tonight interview w/ Bisping was scary. I'm totally alright with Max vacating the belt and we get Ortega vs Moraes sometime early in the fall for the new champ, Max can fight the winner of Conor/Khabib.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 05, 2018, 12:11:54 AM
John Morgan of MMA Junkie who is a noted UFC stooge is saying that they're considering Jeremy Stephens vs Frankie Edgar II for an interim belt on Saturday.

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 05, 2018, 02:43:06 AM
Sounds like the UFC wanted Ortega to fight Stephens for an interim belt and he turned it down so they tried for Edgar/Stephens but Frankie couldn't make the weight.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: The Paper Industry on July 05, 2018, 04:38:18 AM
Isn't Marlon Moraes a 135er? Unless there's a regular featherweight named Moraes I don't know.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 05, 2018, 05:43:55 AM
Shit, my bad. Yes he is.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 06, 2018, 01:22:47 AM
Card has been updated. Lando's fight has been bumped to the FS1 prelims, Perry vs Felder to the main card.

If you close your eyes for a second and forget that Max vs Ortega was ever booked that main card is still really, really fucking good. High violence potential and I'd say that at least 3, maybe 4 fights are guaranteed finishes.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on July 06, 2018, 04:29:34 AM
A no weight cutting DC weighed in at 246 pounds!
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 06, 2018, 06:20:00 AM
Chiesa blew weight by 1.5 lbs and said that it's his last fight at LW. Pettis as of right now has not accepted the fight. Yay.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: The Paper Industry on July 06, 2018, 06:35:38 AM
He's got a big frame, smart move. Can't really sue over a lost title shot if he can't make the weight though.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 06, 2018, 06:37:47 AM
Probably explains why he was so bent too over getting pulled, he likely knew that his window at 155 was closing rapidly and the dolly incident robbed him of his last chance at a title shot.

This was echoed elsewhere but I find it pretty funny/tragic that the UFC had Vitaly Minakov on standby for the main event tomorrow and Thiago Santos for the main event tonight.....and nobody on standby at 145 in case Holloway or Brian got hurt.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: The Paper Industry on July 06, 2018, 06:38:18 AM
wait there's a card tonight?
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: The Paper Industry on July 06, 2018, 06:41:38 AM
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 06, 2018, 06:46:33 AM
wait there's a card tonight?

TUF Finale, Stylebender vs Tavares in the main event.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: Just Call Me Dan on July 06, 2018, 06:53:48 AM
If you make 165, don't you have to make 195?
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 07, 2018, 04:00:44 AM
Predictions for this card, just cause.....

Cormier, SUB R3
Ngannou, KO R1
Felder, DEC
Chiesa, SUB R2
Saki, KO R1

Costa, TKO R2
Assuncao, DEC
Lando, DEC
Millender, TKO R2

Hooker, DEC
Moyle, SUB R1
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: Just Call Me Dan on July 07, 2018, 08:59:34 AM
I’m not liking Pettis’ attitude towards the weight miss considering his weigh in issues the last few fights.  Comes off pretty douchey
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: HSJ on July 07, 2018, 01:53:03 PM
Haha nobody likes Chiesa
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: The Mole on July 07, 2018, 03:00:51 PM
WFOTY contender.  Just terrible.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: HSJ on July 07, 2018, 03:01:40 PM
Poor Black Beast. At least he can say he was injured. He's an entertaining fighter who can get a title shot otherwise.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on July 07, 2018, 03:03:44 PM
Worst fight ever.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: The Mole on July 07, 2018, 03:03:51 PM
Not sure what Ngannou was thinking.  He seemed asleep the whole fight.  He was less gunshy against the champ.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: The Mole on July 07, 2018, 03:27:41 PM
Wow, Cormier!
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: HSJ on July 07, 2018, 03:28:42 PM
I have never been a fan of DC. I really like Stipe and wanted him to win.

But I am cracking up because no one gave him a shot and DC just low key became a two division champ.

I also forgot I put money down on DC as an underdog when this fight was announced and he just won me $100. hahahaha
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: The Paper Industry on July 07, 2018, 03:29:11 PM
I thought DC would win when this was first announced, but closer to the fight I picked stipe. Super shocked.

After thinking about this with some more time... I think the main event ends with Stipe finishing DC early in the third round. It's just been a long time since Cormier has been a Heavyweight, he's had some horrendous weight cuts at LHW, lost quite a bit of muscle mass, is much older now, and has taken a hell of a lot more punishment since then.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/W4MLJ4174C8XC/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: The Mole on July 07, 2018, 03:35:44 PM
I thought DC would win but it wasn't a sure thing.

And LOL @ Brock.  What a tool
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: on July 07, 2018, 03:37:06 PM
I thought DC would win when this was first announced, but closer to the fight I picked stipe. Super shocked.

After thinking about this with some more time... I think the main event ends with Stipe finishing DC early in the third round. It's just been a long time since Cormier has been a Heavyweight, he's had some horrendous weight cuts at LHW, lost quite a bit of muscle mass, is much older now, and has taken a hell of a lot more punishment since then.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/W4MLJ4174C8XC/giphy.gif)

Extremely happy in being wrong.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on July 07, 2018, 03:37:21 PM
DC is the GOAT. Only lost to a guy who admitted on Twitter during a rage out that he was on tons of roids.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: Youth N Asia on July 07, 2018, 04:33:37 PM
I thought Stipe was winning tonight. But I had no rooting interest either way. Just glad it was a fun fight.

I really don’t care about Lesnar fighting again. 0-2-1 in his last three.

LHW is a wasteland now without Jones and DC. Especially with Bader and Rumble gone.

Weird how on the TUF finale years ago it seemed like Uriah Hall was going to smash Kelvin. And now Hall is 6-7 in the UFC while the Gasman is getting a title shot.

Always like seeing Pettis win. He went from a guy who’s fights I never wanted to miss to someone I really didn’t care one way or the other if I saw his fights or not.

I have no idea what to say about the co-main. I was there live when Francis knocked the soul out of Overeem. It’s so weird that he was unwilling to do anything at all tonight. Lewis wasn’t much better. But he just won because he was willing to throw something. Maybe it’s best that Lesnar takes an undeserved title shot so they can figure out the rest of the mess in the division.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: The Mole on July 07, 2018, 04:46:05 PM
Pettis also finally breaks the "fighters missing weight win streak" unless I overlooked someone.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: HSJ on July 07, 2018, 04:54:06 PM
Pettis also finally breaks the "fighters missing weight win streak" unless I overlooked someone.

Some girl fight within the last month or so broke that already.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: Thrasher on July 07, 2018, 06:03:02 PM
I saw Lesnar's promo and I don't think he needs Heyman as a manager if he can keep short and swear like a sailor. Honestly, he should. It's not like Vince would fine or fire him.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: Brodypedia on July 07, 2018, 06:07:36 PM
I missed the event due to a BBQ.  I thought Ngannou/Lewis was either going to be a one round slugfest or a 3 round disaster. I am sorry the latter came true.

I just watched the DC/Brock promos and marked the fuck out. Brock looked humongous when he got close to DC, and cut a money promo. Being the bad ass with no class is awesome, as long as you can back it up.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on July 07, 2018, 06:09:00 PM
DC is gonna destroy him. His diagnosing of fighter weaknesses is the best in the whole sport. He said exactly how he would win and carried it out. For some reason people forgot his entire heavyweight run. This guy was the one to crack Bigfoot's chin. He put that dude on ice.

When DC doesn't cut weight, the power comes back. He is also naturally faster handspeed wise than any other big guy. I thought when he was hitting Stipe, he was messing him up. It was a matter of whether or not his chin looked good not cutting weight, and it did.

So glad that guy is finally getting the credit he deserves. He is a good dude.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: Brodypedia on July 08, 2018, 11:38:26 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DhnJLJ7X0AI4gBq.jpg
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 09, 2018, 12:52:54 AM
I wonder if/when we see DC vacate the 205 belt. Pretty sure I recall an interview where he said if he won at HW that's where he'd stay until retirement. With Brock not eligible to fight until at least January they could definitely book Cormier to fight again at LHW but I doubt they risk him getting injured and it ruining plans for the Lesnar fight. Gustaffson/Volkan for the vacant belt makes a lot of sense but that would also make the 227 card for 3 belts and I'm not sure they'd do that.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: Brodypedia on July 09, 2018, 02:58:01 AM
I wonder if/when we see DC vacate the 205 belt. Pretty sure I recall an interview where he said if he won at HW that's where he'd stay until retirement. With Brock not eligible to fight until at least January they could definitely book Cormier to fight again at LHW but I doubt they risk him getting injured and it ruining plans for the Lesnar fight. Gustaffson/Volkan for the vacant belt makes a lot of sense but that would also make the 227 card for 3 belts and I'm not sure they'd do that.

Is it official that Brock isn't in the testing pool yet?  I think Meltz said his sources said no, but elsewhere it was stated that the testing can not be publicly admitted to by USADA.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 09, 2018, 03:01:55 AM
I thought Dana said he'll be entering the testing pool soon and will be eligible to fight by Jan.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on July 09, 2018, 04:48:09 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E8jnYJJ2Tc

This will probably happen to Brock. I wonder how many people see that highlight and not realize who he did that to.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on July 09, 2018, 04:57:21 AM
DC just said he would give Shogun a title shot at 205 BAH GAWDDDDD a lot of people would like that shit.

DC also said that all he did in terms of weight for this fight was not cut weight. This is where he starts his cut from.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: The Mole on July 09, 2018, 05:58:47 AM
Barnett isn't a world bearer on his feet but he's still better than Brock.  Cormier would probably not even have to take Lesnar down unless the opportunity was right there.  Really, the only thing you have to worry about from Lesnar is being on the bottom with him because he's so big, but I'd wonder how full his tank would he against DC considering by that point it would be a couple of years since the Hunt fight.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 09, 2018, 08:46:22 AM
Brock's only shot is just to catch Cormier and with his hands being the size of bricks he has enough power to KO him so it's not like the fight won't be devoid of intrigue but DC has better hands, power of his own and is a lot faster. I think he finishes Brock on the ground much like Stipe within one round, not to mention if he wants to wrestle he can taken Brock down easily.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: HSJ on July 09, 2018, 01:46:17 PM
I def. think that DC was the tougher match-up of the two for Brock (out of him and Stipie), but lets not pretend like DC has been taking down guys with wrestling pedigrees like Brock. DC struggled to get Stipe down (I don't think he even got a takedown even though he attempted). I actually think Brock will take DC down and if that happens, I have a hard time thinking DC gets to his feet.

Do I think DC can KO/TKO him? Yeah, definitely, especially after this Stipe fight. But I don't think it'll be as easy as some people are making it out to be.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on July 09, 2018, 02:10:17 PM
The main difference is that DC is gonna be fighting someone who has not definitively won a fight since 2010.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: on July 09, 2018, 02:25:29 PM
A guy who still can't handle taking punches too. Is Brock still the same level of wrestler who struggled to take down an old 220 pound Randy Couture?
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on July 09, 2018, 02:32:58 PM
Randy took Brock down too. Brock is also really bad at the same thing Stipe got knocked out doing, exiting the clinch with his hands down and with a free target hanging out there. Brock was a strong fighter and would have presented a good challenge, but those things are so far in the past. He's also taken a lot of physical damage in WWE, lots of subconcussive blows when the back of his head hits the mat.

Sitting at the announce table has also given DC one of the greatest advantages anyone can have, he has a first row seat to all of these fights and is able to get a close view of what works and what doesn't. It's great learning material for him and he has used these experiences to become well more rounded as a fighter. The way he was killing Volkan in a slugfest was a total surprise and the opposite of what I thought would be a realistic DC victory in that fight.

I'm not naive about PED's in this sport, but I do think that if DC was using them, it wasn't exactly for a very long time. He also came from an Olympic background that discourages PED use in the extreme, so he also doesn't suffer from the obvious loss of gear in these current fight times the way some other older fighters (like Brock) do.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 10, 2018, 12:17:59 AM
After reading that Ngannou made half a mill to fight Stipe and that pay went down to 100K for this fight makes me think that the decrease along with the fear of getting embarrassed again completely destroyed him mentally. That dude had lost the fight before he even stepped in the cage. Also I wouldn't be surprised if he tried some late in the game negotiation tactics after his fight got bumped to co-main and UFC didn't blink.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: Damaramu on July 10, 2018, 12:46:08 AM
Why did DC cut to light heavyweight in the first place? Can someone explain it to me because from what you guys have been saying it looks like he's better at heavyweight anyway.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: ViciousFish on July 10, 2018, 12:51:07 AM
Because he trains with Cain who was HW champion at the time
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: on July 10, 2018, 08:11:52 AM
Yeah. He honestly could've come back to Heavyweight the last few years but like many other people he still had hopes Cain would return back to his old level.
Title: Re: UFC 226
Post by: The Paper Industry on July 11, 2018, 10:37:14 AM
https://nypost.com/2018/07/11/ufc-champion-pulled-from-fight-because-of-water-poisoning/

wtf