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Title: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on January 30, 2019, 04:51:48 AM
Signings are starting up now that we're just a few days away from the Super Bowl.

- Eagles agreed to terms with LB Paul Worrilow on a one-year contract. He missed the 2018 Season but could provide key depth.
- Giants released OLB Connor Barwin. Curious if Houston tries to re-sign him to a contract.
- Colts signed RG Mark Glowinski to a three-year, $18 million extension through 2021. He was their starting RG from Week 6 on.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on February 01, 2019, 04:24:35 AM
Julius Peppers retired after 17 seasons and finishes his career ranked 4th in Sacks. No doubt Hall of Famer and a linchpin of the early dominant Carolina defenses.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Saints_Fan_H on February 01, 2019, 11:56:55 AM
One of a few Carolina Panthers I have high respect for.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: KingPK on February 02, 2019, 09:37:24 AM

It's the Year of the Defensive Back this class.  Law is also the first Brady-era Patriot inducted.

Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Brooklyn Zoo on February 02, 2019, 09:39:38 AM
Mawae, nice!
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on February 02, 2019, 11:19:51 PM
Really glad that Ty Law made it in as he deserves it and rivaled Champ Bailey as one of the best CBs in the NFL for a long time. Kevin Mawae's a bit of a surprise but he was the best Center (dirty a player as he was) after Dermontti Dawson for a long time & instrumental in the success of Curtis Martin whilst with the Jets.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on February 02, 2019, 11:29:17 PM
http://dailysnark.com/usain-bolt-casually-ties-nfl-record-40-yard-dash-wearing-sweat-pants-sneakers-at-super-bowl/

Usain Bolt at 32? ran a 4.22 40 yard dash, in sneakers, while letting up at the end due to the barrier. IIRC the math says he'd run around a 4.10 or something and that now seems somewhat legit if he was around 20-22 years old and trained right.

Fake Edit: This article says he could be under a 4.00 (https://www.freelapusa.com/how-fast-can-usain-bolt-run-the-40-yard-dash/). I don't think he'd be that fast but I could legit see a 4.08 to 4.15 time in a perfect environment.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Krankor on February 03, 2019, 12:30:45 AM
One hit, he would shatter like glass. This isn't a frail man's game.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Gert on February 03, 2019, 12:40:54 AM
Bolt is probably live at the #11 spot for the Bengals if Mike Brown read that article...

Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Hawk 34 on February 04, 2019, 02:33:46 AM
The Raiders will play in San Francisco at Oracle Park (Giants Ballpark) this season, one last year of baseball dirt tradition!
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: MFer on February 05, 2019, 02:56:24 AM
Rams QB coach Zac Taylor (age 35) has been hired as the Bengals head coach.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Kotzenjunge on February 05, 2019, 02:26:43 PM
One hit, he would shatter like glass. This isn't a frail man's game.
This was said about Bullet Bob Hayes on the Cowboys too. He may not have been as effective as other recievers, but dude would be good for smoking someone once every game for a long gain.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on February 05, 2019, 09:54:00 PM
- Nick Foles declined the $20 Million option that Philadelphia used. Eagles can still franchise tag then trade him if they want to go that route.
- Arizona claimed LB Tanner Vallejo from the Cleveland Browns. Still young and had 27 tackles for the Browns. At his best when diagnosing plays and knifing through the OL but struggles when asked to sustain against blockers. Would be a better fit as a 3-4 ILB asked to make plays against the run.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: KingPK on February 06, 2019, 01:38:37 PM
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25938583/antonio-brown-pittsburgh-steelers-pushed-woman-ground-police-incident-report-says

I thought Days of Our Steelers was on hiatus for the offseason.

Pats are also bringing in Greg Schiano as DC.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Kotzenjunge on February 11, 2019, 06:36:43 AM
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25973726/kareem-hunt-signs-browns

Kareem Hunt will be a Cleveland Brown in 2019. Poor Chubb.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on February 11, 2019, 07:14:17 AM
Not too surprising as GM John Dorsey came from the Chiefs and was a likely candidate to pick him up.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Krankor on February 11, 2019, 07:24:42 AM
That for sure signals the end of Duke Johnson.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Cartman on February 11, 2019, 08:21:32 AM
Keep in mind that Hunt is going to miss a large chunk of this upcoming season due to suspension.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on February 11, 2019, 11:36:01 AM
I never believed for a second Hunt would be done. 
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on February 12, 2019, 12:38:57 AM
Houston released WR Demaryius Thomas. He was owed $14 Million but could come back at a cheaper contract if he wants to stay in Houston.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: HSJ on February 12, 2019, 06:37:32 AM
Browns going to the Super Bowl this year.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on February 13, 2019, 12:05:33 AM
Bills signed C Spencer Long, formerly of the Jets, to a three-year, $13 million contract.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Hawk 34 on February 13, 2019, 02:20:23 AM
Flacco has been traded to Denver.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on February 13, 2019, 05:02:27 AM
Flacco has been traded to Denver.

For only a 4th Round draft pick too. This also now has Denver shopping Case Keenum around to other teams as trade bait.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on February 13, 2019, 06:38:59 AM
Minnesota can grab him and trade Cousins! 
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: KingPK on February 13, 2019, 09:59:18 AM
That trade seems like the definition of a lateral move.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Big Beard Booty Daddy on February 13, 2019, 10:45:35 PM
That trade seems like the definition of a lateral move.

It's about as lateral a move as you can make, as far as stats go:

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Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Krankor on February 13, 2019, 10:49:00 PM
Keenum has probably benefited from better WRs in Minnesota & Denver. Baltimore has had some pretty bad WRs.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on February 15, 2019, 07:15:43 AM
The NFL settled with Kap to keep things out of court.

There's one report saying they gave him a bag with 60-80 million in it.

Considering that the NFL wanted to go to war with Tom Brady and take him to court, that report sounds pretty accurate to me.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on February 15, 2019, 07:55:08 AM
- Lions released FS Glover Quin saving $6.25 Million with $1.7 Million in dead money. They also released LB Nicholas Grigsby and WR Bruce Ellington.
- Bills released TE Charles Clay saving $4.5 Million with $4.5 Million in dead money.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on February 15, 2019, 08:05:31 AM
The NFL settled with Kap to keep things out of court.

There's one report saying they gave him a bag with 60-80 million in it.

Considering that the NFL wanted to go to war with Tom Brady and take him to court, that report sounds pretty accurate to me.

In other words, the NFL was scared of something getting out.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on February 15, 2019, 08:14:39 AM
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/02/15/nfls-settlement-avoids-disclosure-of-emails-texts-testimony/

"The buying of peace carries with it not only the avoidance of a potentially massive judgment and the embarrassment and stress of a full-blown hearing during which owners and executives would have been twisted in various shapes and sizes of sailing knots but also the disclosure of a likely treasure trove of emails, text messages, and deposition transcripts generated in more than a year of pre-hearing discovery.

The fact that Eric Reid’s case also was settled confirms that the NFL did this to keep testimony and documents secret, and that the NFL offered enough to persuade Reid, who in some ways seemed to be even more determined to seek justice than Kaepernick, to stand down."
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on February 15, 2019, 08:15:44 AM
It was also stated at one point that Kap would only settle if he got a massive amount of money.

I have no doubt there was collusion against him.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Cartman on February 15, 2019, 10:01:54 AM
Good for Kap, now he can go play in the AAF! Oh wait, he doesn't actually WANT to play football.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Brooklyn Zoo on February 15, 2019, 10:30:34 AM
Good for Kap, now he can go play in the AAF! Oh wait, he doesn't actually WANT to play football.

Oh wait they actually did collude against him
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: AA484 on February 15, 2019, 10:43:32 AM
Why would he want to play for the AAF?  In his last season, he threw for nearly 60% and had 16 TDs to only 4 INTs.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on February 15, 2019, 10:45:54 AM
You'd have to be a total moron to think a guy who stood on the sidelines while Blaine Gabbert was leading the team out there doesn't want to play football. He could have just went home and quit if he didn't want to play football.

He obviously wants to be paid what he's worth. Which is more than 18 million dollar a year Case Keenum and 17 million Blake Bortles. Because yes he is a lot better than those bums and took a team to the motherfucking Super Bowl. Name one other QB in their prime in today's NFL who threw for 300 yards in a Super Bowl who isn't worth that money and name one who should have to play in a development league. That guy led a huge Super Bowl comeback after his special teams unit spread their cheeks.

It isn't like the guy was a bum player, his team wanted to lose as many football games as possible. It has also worked out very well for the 49ers as you can see, they're doing so great these days. If he was still as good as he was, I would genuinely consider having him over the guy we have now.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Cartman on February 15, 2019, 11:20:24 AM
He's mediocre at best, sorry.

Denver offered to trade for him after the whole kneeling thing went crazy and he turned them down and chose to opt out of his contract with the 49'ers. If he really wanted a chance to play in the league he would have taken that opportunity when a team clearly wanted him.

Also if he was so awesome during that fabled Super Bowl run and the decent year after he had, why was he benched for Gabbert for half of the next 3 seasons?

Oh here's part of that reason:

Quote
Kaepernick burned the 49ers last season after he injured his shoulder in the early part of the year and played through the injury until he was benched for poor play.

Kaepernick didn’t exactly engage in a rehabilitation plan that would get him back on the field immediately and he waited to have surgery on his shoulder, knowing that if he made it to April 1 and he wasn’t fully healthy, the 49ers would have to pick up the full $11.9 million he was owed in 2016. Kaepernick had the NFLPA ready to pounce if push came to shove.

It was a shrewd and a bit nefarious move by Kaepernick and it worked.

Kaepernick missed the first two games of the preseason recovering from that surgery, too, and by the time he played (poorly), the anthem controversy was full bore and the 49ers didn’t have much of a choice but to keep him — unless they wanted Jeff Driskel to be their backup quarterback.

https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/49ers-colin-kaepernick-blaine-gabbert-start-chip-kelly-nfl-cardinals-score-schedule-100616

I get why some people love the guy, but aside from the kneeling thing, which I think was great, he's kind of a turd. Which is another part of why most teams didn't want to bother.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on February 15, 2019, 11:28:07 AM
 
He's mediocre at best, sorry.

Denver offered to trade for him after the whole kneeling thing went crazy and he turned them down and chose to opt out of his contract with the 49'ers. If he really wanted a chance to play in the league he would have taken that opportunity when a team clearly wanted him.

Mediocre is better than at least 10 other NFL starters. Maybe 15. I think he might be a piece of shit in reality and I don't really know but there are teams with Big Rape playing at QB. Big Rape has fallen out with so many teammates and yet his team still won't get rid of him.

The Denver trade proposal was also before the anthem protest. Then they didn't want him and started Brock Osweiler and Paxton Lynch. I dunno but to me that is very fishy and there are so many more examples of this.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: HSJ on February 15, 2019, 12:49:32 PM
The guy hasn't thrown a football in almost 3 years. How can you say he's worth more than other starting QBs?
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on February 15, 2019, 01:02:06 PM
No idea how good he is now because he hasn't played, but when he was last on the field he was probably a low end/fringe starter.  Definitely not better than 15 starting QBs.  His record was abysmal (Blaine Gabbert did better with the same team), and he was benched twice due to poor play.  He was good enough to be in the NFL and possibly start for the bottom 3-4 teams.  That's about it.  He had the Super Bowl run, but that was well in the rearview mirror.  He was no longer as good as he once was.  And a single hot streak to get to a Super Bowl is overrated anyways.  The likes of Kerry Collins and Rex Grossman went to Super Bowls too.  Or even Joe Flacco, the guy who beat Kaepernick and just got run out of Baltimore.

Now whether they colluded against him or simply decided it wasn't worth the headache for a top end backup/bottom end starter is a different story, but that the NFL settled instead of fight doesn't look good for them.

EDIT:  I thought about a bit more to see what teams I think might be worth starting Kaepernick.  I'm just going to assume he is the same player he was when he got blackballed.  A big assumption, but let's go with it.  I got three teams: Miami, Jacksonville, and Washington. Denver just got Flacco, so that's a no go, but he's pretty bad at this point so you could maybe make the argument there.  Alex Smith is better than Kaepernick, but I don't expect to see him anytime soon or maybe ever so Washington makes the list.  Everyone else has either a better QB, a young QB on a rookie deal with more upside, or has no chance to do anything right away and would be better off going with somebody in the draft.  That fits with the 3-4 teams I guessed earlier.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Cartman on February 16, 2019, 01:36:37 AM
Also, I feel like the NFL just wants this to to away as soon as possible, and settling like this is the best way to do that. The money is chump change in the grand scheme, and with the huge rebound in ratings as the whole controversy died down this season, they just want to distance themselves from it altogether as opposed to drawing out a court battle and keeping it in the news for longer.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on February 16, 2019, 01:38:15 AM
Also, I feel like the NFL just wants this to to away as soon as possible, and settling like this is the best way to do that. The money is chump change in the grand scheme, and with the huge rebound in ratings as the whole controversy died down this season, they just want to distance themselves from it altogether as opposed to drawing out a court battle and keeping it in the news for longer.

They could have done that ages ago though.  I really do think they didn't want something get it out at trial.  Either there was proof of collusion or something else.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Flik on February 17, 2019, 12:05:55 AM
I'd wage on the something else. Something that only could've been proven via Kap and Reid's together. Which would tarnish(ha) the league to a huge degree. Which would also be why both settled because they don't want to fuck everyone over.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on February 19, 2019, 03:35:51 AM
Arizona signed TE Charles Clay, formerly of the Bills, to a one-year, $3.25 million contract. Just a $350K Signing Bonus so if he doesn't crack the 53 Man Roster, he won't cost very much to release.

Jaguars exercised the 2019 team option for Calais Campbell. He'll earn $12 Million with a $3 Million bonus.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on February 22, 2019, 03:02:28 AM
https://deadspin.com/patriots-owner-bob-kraft-charged-with-soliciting-prosti-1832807440
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Brooklyn Zoo on February 22, 2019, 03:12:22 AM
Lol
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Cartman on February 22, 2019, 03:46:49 AM
Once Myra Kraft passed, Bob went YOLO.

Pretty sure you could nail most Sports owners, politicians, CEO's etc. with this.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Brooklyn Zoo on February 22, 2019, 03:49:42 AM
Everyone does it, it’s cool
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: KingPK on February 22, 2019, 05:10:01 AM

(https://media.giphy.com/media/yHUiExmU40A4U/giphy.gif)

Destroy those tapes along with the Spygate tapes.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on February 22, 2019, 05:52:07 AM
He was just doing a covert on field workout for Belichick's sake.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Krankor on February 22, 2019, 09:58:43 AM
The Patriot Way
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Krankor on February 22, 2019, 10:04:57 AM
Police are treating this as a human trafficking case.

I'll wait for the Patriots Apologists to make Kraft out as a victim and not a complete scum bag.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on February 22, 2019, 10:11:43 AM
Everyone has sex with sex slaves
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 22, 2019, 10:19:30 AM
.....
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on February 22, 2019, 10:28:00 AM
.....

Everyone does it, it’s cool
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Big Beard Booty Daddy on February 22, 2019, 10:44:06 AM
Police are treating this as a human trafficking case.

I'll wait for the Patriots Apologists to make Kraft out as a victim and not a complete scum bag.

Whether prostitution should still be illegal in 2019 is a conversation for another post. He propositioned for sex, which is currently illegal and should get in trouble for that. But to say that he knowledge that this place was trafficing without proof is a little dumb. If it's found out he knew, burn him at the stake, but there is nothing pointing to the fact that he, or the other people, knew of it. It has nothing to do with people being an apologist.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Thrasher on February 22, 2019, 11:02:15 AM
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_1600/wmrwrt0a7jivppez4dcv.jpg)
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Krankor on February 22, 2019, 11:09:58 AM
Whether prostitution should still be illegal in 2019 is a conversation for another post. He propositioned for sex, which is currently illegal and should get in trouble for that. But to say that he knowledge that this place was trafficing without proof is a little dumb. If it's found out he knew, burn him at the stake, but there is nothing pointing to the fact that he, or the other people, knew of it. It has nothing to do with people being an apologist.

Yeah those girls are living the American dream on work visas. They aren't over here in this country because their families sold them or they aren't here paying off family debts. Purely here for the American dream of fucking some Americans in a massage parlor. There is a reason the police are treating the workers in that place as victims also. Stop being so naive. Obviously Kraft is going to plead ignorance that he couldn't possibly fathom these workers are here against their will. He only made charitable donations to an anti-human trafficking organization. He obviously would be totally naive on the typical people that are trafficked and for what reasons. Who wouldn't think that the workers in a dirty Asian massage parlor in West Palm Beach, Florida aren't just a typical prostitute just trying to pay for meth, heroin, or whatever stupid fucking drug most street corner prostitutes are trying to get cash for.

Give me a fucking break.

I expect a significant punishment by the NFL a league that shits all over someone for any alleged abuse/violence toward women.

Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Big Beard Booty Daddy on February 22, 2019, 11:15:23 AM
Whether prostitution should still be illegal in 2019 is a conversation for another post. He propositioned for sex, which is currently illegal and should get in trouble for that. But to say that he knowledge that this place was trafficing without proof is a little dumb. If it's found out he knew, burn him at the stake, but there is nothing pointing to the fact that he, or the other people, knew of it. It has nothing to do with people being an apologist.

Yeah those girls are living the American dream on work visas. They aren't over here in this country because their families sold them or they aren't here paying off family debts. Purely here for the American dream of fucking some Americans in a massage parlor. There is a reason the police are treating the workers in that place as victims also. Stop being so naive. Obviously Kraft is going to plead ignorance that he couldn't possibly fathom these workers are here against their will. He only made charitable donations to an anti-human trafficking organization. He obviously would be totally naive on the typical people that are trafficked and for what reasons. Who wouldn't think that the workers in a dirty Asian massage parlor in West Palm Beach, Florida aren't just a typical prostitute just trying to pay for meth, heroin, or whatever stupid fucking drug most street corner prostitutes are trying to get cash for.

Give me a fucking break.

I expect a significant punishment by the NFL a league that shits all over someone for any alleged abuse/violence toward women.

I'm far from a Patriots apologist as I'm not a fan of them. But let's blame everyone who ever paid for a hand job for human trafficking, whether they knew about it or not. Give me a fucking break. I'm done with this conversation.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: The Amazing Rando on February 22, 2019, 11:26:45 AM
Maybe he was looking for someone to deflate his balls and there was a communication mix up...
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Saints_Fan_H on February 22, 2019, 11:33:21 AM
Maybe he was looking for someone to deflate his balls and there was a communication mix up...
I was getting giddy as I scrolled that no one posted this yet and then boom, last post in the thread.

 >:(

 :P
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: The Amazing Rando on February 22, 2019, 11:35:32 AM
Someone has to scrape the bottom of the barrel and I'm just the person to do it.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Krankor on February 22, 2019, 11:36:55 AM
Don't pay for a hand job at a massage parlor and there is no market for the criminal organizations to see a financial gain to ship people over here to exploit them.

Deflategate II: Electric Bob Boogaloo
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: pujoljunkie on February 22, 2019, 11:56:41 AM
Can't wait for Belichick to put out a statement where he says Kraft isn't as good at picking up hookers as LT.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Krankor on February 22, 2019, 02:55:25 PM
In more important news:
The Bears are releasing Cody Parkey.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: HSJ on February 22, 2019, 02:57:07 PM
It’s illegal to go to a rub and tug place?
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: cobainwasmurdered on February 23, 2019, 12:06:57 AM
it's illegal to traffic in humans? I've got some reassessing to do.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: HSJ on February 23, 2019, 01:59:10 AM
So I’m guilty of human trafficking because I go and get a massage?
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Hawk 34 on February 23, 2019, 04:21:22 AM
A licensed massage business is perfectly legal and I would encourage you to seek one if you have any physical discomfort but if they start giving you a handjob or any other sexual activity, then you aren’t at a legitimate massage business. 
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Saints_Fan_H on February 23, 2019, 10:09:51 AM
I'm in walking distance of a place that's under investigation for rub and tugs. I'm not supposed to have this information. The obvious answer is I'm not going there but it did cross my mind to go snoop.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on February 25, 2019, 06:29:29 AM
https://deadspin.com/robert-kraft-went-to-orchids-of-asia-on-the-morning-of-1832876333
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: strummer on February 28, 2019, 05:07:38 AM
Jason Witten is leaving ESPN and returning to play for the Cowboys
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Hawk 34 on February 28, 2019, 09:18:02 AM
Which newly retired player or coach will be hired this time?  Safe to say it won’t be Marvin Lewis after that AAF effort.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Aero on February 28, 2019, 09:55:50 AM
I wasn't aware that Marvin even had an effort in broadcasting.

I don't think it will happen, because he seems happy to be sitting home, but I wonder if they'd explore bringing Cutler in. CBS obviously thought he was good enough to hire for their B team a few years ago, and he wouldn't have much to live up to after Witten. They'll probably want a splashier name, though.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on March 02, 2019, 01:18:09 AM
Todd Gurley has arthritis in his knee and his long term future is in jeopardy.  So much for being perfectly healthy, Rams.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on March 02, 2019, 04:39:59 AM
- Patriots released TE Dwayne Allen, saving over $7 Million but could bring him back on a cheaper deal.
- Free agent OT Jake Fisher is moving to tight end. He's down to 285 and looking to stick as a blocker.
- ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports the Raiders, Redskins, and Titans are "the three teams that have shown the most interest" in acquiring Antonio Brown to this point.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on March 02, 2019, 06:59:02 AM
I'm sure Brown would love those places.  Don't like Big Ben throwing to you?  Try Derek Carr.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on March 06, 2019, 07:15:15 AM
Cleveland Browns released OLB Jamie Collins after just 2 & 1/2 Seasons. Went over 100 tackles with 13 TFL last year so it will be interesting to see what his market is.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Krankor on March 07, 2019, 10:49:59 AM
Washington gets Case Keenum off Denver. Some late draft picks involved. Gives Washington a placeholder to not feel pressured to get a QB this year in the draft.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 07, 2019, 10:54:10 AM
Not tanking for Tua is going to be the dumbest thing their organization has ever done.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on March 07, 2019, 12:30:44 PM
Miami appears to be committed to the tank so you know they are after Tua.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 07, 2019, 02:31:40 PM
Antonio Brown is going to...THE BILLS.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Aero on March 07, 2019, 10:16:19 PM
Now, the Bills, themselves, have said they're out.

Waking up to all the NFL insiders reporting/not reporting the trade was fun.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on March 07, 2019, 11:03:02 PM
That was a nice 5 minutes this morning, that hope. If it was for picks only they 100% should do it.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on March 08, 2019, 01:30:50 AM
The deal is dead because Brown refused to go to Buffalo.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on March 08, 2019, 04:37:03 AM
Couple of other deals going on too.

Arizona Cardinals acquired RT Marcus Gilbert from the Steelers in exchange for a 6th-round pick.
Cleveland Browns acquired DE Olivier Vernon and a 2019 4th-round pick from the Giants in exchange for RG Kevin Zeitler and a 2019 5th-round pick.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Amy pats fan on March 08, 2019, 09:34:31 AM
Pats get Michael Bennett and a 2020 7th from the Eagles for a 2020 5th
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Amy pats fan on March 08, 2019, 11:56:51 AM
Fins cut Danny Amendola.  I'd like to see him back in NE, but he trash talked Belichick on the way out
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 09, 2019, 03:33:38 PM
ANTONIO BROWN IS A FUCKING RAIDER BAH GAWDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on March 09, 2019, 03:59:46 PM
Is it too late for Brown to accept that Buffalo deal?  The Steelers found about the only franchise even worse than the Bills to send him to.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 09, 2019, 04:12:06 PM
The Raiders have four high picks to fix the team. They planned quite well for this event.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: KingPK on March 09, 2019, 04:16:40 PM
They also still have Chucky at the helm.  I'm sure he'll do just as good a job as Tomlin did at controlling his ego.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 09, 2019, 04:27:21 PM
It literally entirely depends on what happens with the four top 40 picks and in free agency.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Cartman on March 10, 2019, 03:36:55 AM
Imagine if they still had Mack tho...
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on March 10, 2019, 03:41:04 AM
Per Profootballtalk, Antonio Brown's total compensation for the next three years has increased from $38.925 million to $50.125 million, while his guaranteed money has gone from $0 to $30.125 million.

For the value (just 3rd and 5th Round picks), the Raiders made out like, well, Raiders in this deal. The bigger question is how Brown will acclimate to the locker room and/or Gruden's coaching if the team struggles to win games. Gruden already sent Amari Cooper packing and had a notorious battle with Keyshawn Johnson back in Tampa Bay that ended up with him in Dallas.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 10, 2019, 04:27:33 AM
Imagine if they still had Mack tho...

I wish. He didn't really wanna be there though and said that himself.

The more hilarious part is that they've effectively traded Cooper, a third, and a fifth for Antonio Brown and a first round pick. Cooper had wanted a $15 million a year contract.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Flik on March 10, 2019, 05:07:36 AM
You know I bet AB becomes a model citizen after this deal, just to go "see? Nothing about me" and try to pin more blame on the Steelers and Ben. He seems to be that type of guy.

Also, with 4 firsts, they could definitely end up turning this ship around in a hurry. I mean, still a wait and see thing, but if AB holds up all the way through the contract and they nail the 4 picks, Gruden may have done some good.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 10, 2019, 05:32:45 AM
My targets would be:

DE/DT with 4th pick
LB/DE with 24th
S/LB with 27th (notice a pattern here)
RB or TE with 35th

Safety could also be addressed in free agency and so could DT and LB. But, man, that Brown trade is a fucking ripoff of the highest order. I can't believe it. Sammy Watkins nearly got paid that much last year.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 10, 2019, 08:36:20 AM
The Raiders traded Kelechi Osemele and a 6th round pick to the Jets for a 5th round pick.

That's good for someone they were going to cut due to him being overpaid. He also has about one more good season left so it's also good for the Jets.I think he has one more good season left anyway. He said a little while ago that he wanted to lose weight to the point where he wouldn't be overweight anymore. I don't know if he could play guard after doing that though.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on March 11, 2019, 03:28:41 AM
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on March 11, 2019, 06:45:10 AM
Players be getting that BLING. Patricia already starting to bring in ex-Patriots defensive players to retool the defense.

- Bengals re-signed TE C.J. Uzomah to a three-year, $18 million contract.
- Lions agreed to terms with DE Trey Flowers, formerly of the Patriots, on a five-year contract worth an estimated $80-$85 Million. Lions agreed to terms with CB Justin Coleman, formerly of the Seahawks, on a four-year, $36 million contract.
- Redskins agreed to terms with S Landon Collins, formerly of the Giants, on a six-year, $84 million contract. Includes $45 Million guaranteed.
- 49ers agreed to terms with LB Kwon Alexander, formerly of the Bucs, on a four-year, $54 million contract with $27 Million guaranteed.
- Bills signed CB Kevin Johnson, formerly of the Texans.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on March 11, 2019, 07:25:54 AM
I just want to say I wasn't really being serious about the Raiders being a total dumpster fire.  I was just poking fun.  I do think they are in a good position to make a big move up the standings provided they don't blow these draft choices.  I love their signing of Trent Brown.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 11, 2019, 07:27:47 AM
If they bomb on all the draft picks they're going to be terrible for five-six years though. So it's a fair comment. I don't understand how a team could blow four top 35 picks, but they could.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on March 11, 2019, 07:30:56 AM
If they bomb on all the draft picks they're going to be terrible for five-six years though. So it's a fair comment. I don't understand how a team could blow four top 35 picks, but they could.

It would be really bad to miss on all of them.  Surely they can at least hit on two of the four.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 11, 2019, 07:34:57 AM
I think they have to hit on all four considering some of the free agent holes they needed to fill are already signed by other teams.


This is good though. I don't think players are fully recovered from an ACL tear for around two years, and he had his in 2017, so he should be really back next season.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Cartman on March 11, 2019, 08:42:18 AM
I loved watching Trent Brown just absolutely crush it all year, going to miss him alot.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on March 11, 2019, 11:28:01 PM
DeSean Jackson going back to Philadelphia along with a 2020 7th Rounder for a 2019 6th Rounder to Tampa Bay
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on March 12, 2019, 05:27:41 AM
- Buffalo signed WRs John Brown and Cole Beasley.
- Packers signed OL Billy Turner, OLB Preston Smith, OLB Za'Darius Smith, and S Adrian Amos while releasing OLB Nick Perry.
- Houston signed S Tashaun Gipson.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on March 12, 2019, 07:08:05 AM
Packers spending money.  I like the Preston Smith and Amos deals in particular.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Aero on March 12, 2019, 10:57:59 AM
Odell Beckham being traded to the Browns.

Browns winning their division.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 12, 2019, 10:59:16 AM
BAH GAWDDDDDDDDDD
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Aero on March 12, 2019, 11:03:51 AM
Giants get the Browns' 1st round pick (#17), a 3rd round pick, and Jabril Peppers. Great haul, I think.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Flik on March 12, 2019, 11:19:50 AM
Man did the Steelers fuck up with Brown. Sure, he did a lot of that to the deal, but still.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on March 12, 2019, 11:38:01 AM
The Browns look really good.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on March 12, 2019, 11:41:11 AM
Man did the Steelers fuck up with Brown. Sure, he did a lot of that to the deal, but still.

Mostly, but part of it was the difference in their ages.  Brown is the wrong side of 30.  Even without the Steelers issues Brown would have been worth less than ODB.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Brooklyn Zoo on March 12, 2019, 03:24:53 PM
LEVVEOOONNNNNN
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: strummer on March 12, 2019, 03:56:29 PM
well Gettleman has to draft a qb now, right?  38 year old QB with a team that is tanking/rebuilding?  Makes no sense

Giants have basically been terrible since the 2011 championship.  It was the right time to blow it up.  I'm willing to wait
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 12, 2019, 03:58:26 PM
Gettleman should tank for Tua but he's an idiot. There is no way he should have a job.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Aero on March 12, 2019, 10:32:07 PM
Cautiously psyched for Le'Veon on the Jets. It's totally worth the risk to spend the money on him now during Darnold's rookie contract--and they seem to have gotten him cheaper than the projected price tag anyway. I can't imagine he'll have the stats/level of play he had in Pittsburgh, mostly due to a lesser OLine, but surrounding Darnold with his type of talent and skillset is essential.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on March 13, 2019, 12:40:46 AM
Cautiously psyched for Le'Veon on the Jets. It's totally worth the risk to spend the money on him now during Darnold's rookie contract--and they seem to have gotten him cheaper than the projected price tag anyway. I can't imagine he'll have the stats/level of play he had in Pittsburgh, mostly due to a lesser OLine, but surrounding Darnold with his type of talent and skillset is essential.

The Jets got him for cheaper than than the 5 Year/$70 million deal the Steelers offered him last off-season.  So Bell's decision to turn that down last year backfired unless he really wanted out of Pittsburgh.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on March 13, 2019, 01:09:34 AM
Patriots starting to lose more players to other teams as well. Gonna make the NFL Draft/offseason pretty interesting.

- Patriots agreed to terms with RB Brandon Bolden, formerly of the Dolphins, on a two-year contract. Bolden's back as a core STer.
- Dolphins signed CB Eric Rowe, formerly of the Patriots, to a one-year contract. Can play outside or slot and gives Flores a DB who knows the system.
- Bucs agreed to terms with WR Breshad Perriman, formerly of the Browns, on a one-year, $4 million contract. A prove it deal after moderate success last year, Perriman's always been a guy who's flashed but never quite put it all together.
- Titans agreed to terms with OLB Cameron Wake, formerly of the Dolphins, on a three-year, $23 million contract. Pretty solid get, despite the age, for the Titans who badly needed pass rushing help.
- Bears agree to terms with WR Cordarrelle Patterson, formerly of the Patriots, on a two-year, $10 million contract.

49ers acquired OLB Dee Ford from the Chiefs in exchange for a 2020 second-round pick. Ford subsequently has signed a 5 year deal with San Francisco.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Flik on March 13, 2019, 02:59:29 AM
The Jets got him for cheaper than than the 5 Year/$70 million deal the Steelers offered him last off-season.  So Bell's decision to turn that down last year backfired unless he really wanted out of Pittsburgh.
I think he just wanted out. At some point, you just don't give a damn about how you get how, you just do want out.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 13, 2019, 05:02:27 AM

Gruden/Mayock did WORK
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on March 13, 2019, 06:47:14 AM
- Patriots re-signed CB Jason McCourty to a 2 year deal.
- Ravens agreed to terms with RB Mark Ingram, formerly of the Saints, on a three-year, $15 million contract.
- Ravens agreed to terms with FS Earl Thomas, formerly of the Seahawks, on a four-year, $55 million contract.
- Chargers signed QB Tyrod Taylor to backup Philip Rivers.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Amy pats fan on March 13, 2019, 07:43:15 AM
Giants trading ODBJ is kinda crazy to me, but everything Giants related lately has been weird....
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: HSJ on March 13, 2019, 08:08:43 AM
Teddy Bridgewater is meeting with Miami right now. I don’t expect him to leave without a contract.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on March 14, 2019, 02:52:34 AM
Teddy Bridgewater is meeting with Miami right now. I don’t expect him to leave without a contract.

Narrator: And then he left. Without one.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on March 14, 2019, 07:22:08 AM
Patriots get a potential competitor for the slot WR role in a 1 year deal for Bruce Ellington. He's played under O'Brien in Houston then Patricia in Detroit so he could find playing time pretty quickly.

Panthers also released OT Matt Kalil. Will be interesting to see what the market is for him and if he tries to land back with Minnesota.

Also a lot of players signing 1 year "prove it" deals with new teams.

- Saints signed DT Malcom Brown, formerly of the Patriots, to a three-year, $15 million contract.
- 49ers signed CB Jason Verrett, formerly of the Chargers, to a one-year, $3.6 million contract.
- Bears signed S Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, formerly of the Bears, to a one-year contract.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Big Beard Booty Daddy on March 14, 2019, 10:01:29 AM
Giants trading ODBJ is kinda crazy to me, but everything Giants related lately has been weird....

They signed Golden Tate to a 4 year deal.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: HSJ on March 14, 2019, 11:07:28 AM
This is going to be a tough year to be a dolphins fan.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on March 14, 2019, 11:59:18 AM
This is going to be a tough year to be a dolphins fan.

Tanking for Tua.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on March 15, 2019, 12:34:26 AM
Patriots signed a couple ex-Jets in S Terrence Brooks (slotted for a ST role) and DT Mike Pennel (rotational DT big body run stopper type). They also signed WR Maurice Harris who had 28 catches for Washington last year and TE Matt LaCosse who had 24 catches last year but should serve more as an in-line blocker.

New England continues to lack the 'splash' of other teams but are quietly filling roles and spots on the roster prior to the NFL Draft.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: HSJ on March 15, 2019, 07:14:10 AM
Tannehill gets traded to the Titans.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on March 15, 2019, 07:36:12 AM
Tannehill gets traded to the Titans.

Titans acquired QB Ryan Tannehill and a 2019 sixth-round pick from the Dolphins in exchange for a fourth-round pick in 2020 and a seventh-round pick in 2019. Titans are also giving Tannehill a 1 year deal worth $7 Million to backup Marcus Mariota.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on March 15, 2019, 08:16:39 AM
https://www.kctv5.com/news/police-investigate-incidents-of-suspected-child-abuse-at-home-of/article_21d5fb58-4737-11e9-9d0d-e781fc6fd330.amp.html
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 15, 2019, 08:51:32 AM
I'm shocked
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Flik on March 15, 2019, 12:22:47 PM
Shocked in that another football player abused someone outside of the game? Or that it was another Chiefs' player?
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 15, 2019, 12:25:33 PM
That it was the guy who already got in trouble for trying to give his girlfriend a forced abortion by punching her in the guts and choking her. Then he abuses the kid he failed to murder.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on March 15, 2019, 12:41:46 PM
I wonder if the Chiefs will cut him too.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Flik on March 17, 2019, 05:52:21 AM
Okay... I forgot Hill was that player. Dammit.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: HSJ on March 17, 2019, 07:04:29 AM
The Dolphins signed Ryan Fitzpatrick. tank mode.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Hawk 34 on March 18, 2019, 03:32:31 AM
THUGFICT GONE
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on March 18, 2019, 05:09:41 AM
THUGFICT GONE

Crazy to see he's what 28 or 29? I feel like due to suspensions/news he's been in the NFL for a decade or so.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 18, 2019, 08:11:58 AM
FUCK YES THE RAIDERS WANT THUGFICT.

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Hawk 34 on March 18, 2019, 08:27:18 AM
THUGFICT And Antonio Brown together is like when Dreamer and Raven became a Tag Team.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Saints_Fan_H on March 18, 2019, 10:44:56 AM
Please let them get "Hard Knocks" and start in June and do 10 episodes.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Kotzenjunge on March 18, 2019, 01:20:57 PM
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26295599/ngata-retires-nfl-atop-mount-kilimanjaro

PEOPLE.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Krankor on March 19, 2019, 01:00:04 AM
Bortles to the Rams.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 19, 2019, 11:24:42 AM

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Hawk 34 on March 19, 2019, 11:44:11 AM
His first order of business is to injure Travis Kelce
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 19, 2019, 11:46:49 AM
Mahomes and Givers too.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: strummer on March 19, 2019, 01:11:31 PM
Clay Matthews signed with the Rams
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on March 19, 2019, 01:26:32 PM
Sad to see him go, but he's got nothing left.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Gert on March 19, 2019, 02:03:53 PM
Burfict is leaving the Bengals weakest position group and I am fine with it. He has such a weird combination right now, he gets baited by guys all the time to do something stupid (which he avoided almost all of last year), but he half assed on so many plays now and I'm not sure if he was concerned about his reputation or just doesn't give a shit anymore. And he usually injures himself on a lot of tackles.

Enjoy the roller coaster because when it's high it's fucking awesome. It's pretty cool he injured Ben, Bell and AB in two games in one season, but I don't think he has much left and if he does he'll miss games due to suspension.

Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: HSJ on March 24, 2019, 09:04:29 AM
Gronk retired.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 24, 2019, 09:09:29 AM
Good riddance
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on March 24, 2019, 09:23:32 AM
He was cooked.  First ballot Hall of Famer though.  Now he can show up in WWE.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: KingPK on March 24, 2019, 10:38:27 AM
Good riddance

(https://i.imgur.com/K9bhUZo.gif)

A great career that probably ended at the right time. 
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on March 25, 2019, 03:43:15 AM
Can't top out much better then the catch he made in that Super Bowl. Injuries riddled him a lot but when he was healthy, he was maybe the most dominant TE I've seen. His run blocking tends to be underrated, given his greatness as a receiver, but he could hammer dudes when willing.

Also WR Jeremy Maclin announced his retirement from the NFL.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 26, 2019, 10:59:13 AM
Pass interference, called or not, can now be challenged. FINALLY
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: AA484 on March 26, 2019, 11:21:04 AM
Pass interference, called or not, can now be challenged. FINALLY

I like it, but I'm just afraid that it will slow the game down even more and create additional "dead spots." For a league that wants to promote the offenses they sure don't mind taking excessive time tediously reviewing plays and calls.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: KingPK on March 26, 2019, 01:16:18 PM
The last two minutes are gonna feel like the last two minutes of an NBA game at this rate with all the potential stoppages.  They just need to rip off the college system and be done with it.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Saints_Fan_H on March 26, 2019, 08:45:28 PM
I like it.  ;D

Though some of the other rules do sound like shit. I'm not a blocking on kickoffs expert but it sounds lame.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: JHawk on March 26, 2019, 09:13:32 PM
Serious question from years of rules being modified to where I don't understand things anymore.

What's the difference between a blindside block and a block to the back? The terms have the same meaning from a literal standpoint but there must be some sort of difference if this is a rule "change".
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on March 26, 2019, 11:17:02 PM
Serious question from years of rules being modified to where I don't understand things anymore.

What's the difference between a blindside block and a block to the back? The terms have the same meaning from a literal standpoint but there must be some sort of difference if this is a rule "change".

From what I've seen on TV, 'technically' there isn't much difference. But in terms of application, the block in the backs tend to strictly be from players being blocked in the back and pushed forward (most often on punt returns by the receiving team trying to push their gunner around the return man). That's also why you'll see guys lift both hands up when the opponent tumbles to the ground directly in front of them to avoid this call.

The blindside block, for all intents & purposes, is a blindside hit. Usually a player peels looking for a defenseless player usually out of the picture in terms of making a play and wallops them with a forearm/shoulder/helmet to the head area.

St. Brown's hit on McCain is an example.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv0_8h1AzLQ
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Hawk 34 on March 28, 2019, 09:01:11 AM
Schiano already quit as patriots DC.   
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 28, 2019, 09:22:50 AM
The Raiders just signed Isaiah Crowell, who should fit in as part of an RBBC. If their offense sucks this year I don't even know man. They have talent across the board now. Carr really picked it up at the end of last season, the improvements in the offseason are drastic. They should be able to score a lot of points.

They also signed LB Brandon Marshall. The defense doesn't have much in terms of pass rush, but there are some good cover guys and thumpers on the team now. Really looking forward to draft day.

The Raiders should spend the first of those four picks on one of Williams, Oliver, and Bosa in that order. The second/third one on Ferrell or Simmons. Then the other one of those two late firsts on a tight end.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Krankor on March 28, 2019, 02:02:45 PM
Jordan Howard to the Eagles for a 2020 6th round pick.

THE MIKE DAVIS ERA IS UPON US...
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on March 29, 2019, 12:56:37 AM
Dolphins continue to shed talent, accumulate draft picks, and act like they really aren't tanking ;) as they dealt Robert Quinn to Dallas for a 2020 6th Round pick.

Speaking of the Patriots coaching staff, they did hire Jerod Mayo to help work with the LBs.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Spaceman Spiff 🚀 on March 29, 2019, 01:03:43 AM
Trust the process.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Thrasher on April 03, 2019, 02:20:23 AM
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26415173/inside-mike-mccarthy-split-packers-next-him
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Kotzenjunge on April 04, 2019, 03:36:17 PM
I'm not sure if I like the new Jets uniforms or not:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26443997/jets-don-new-uniforms-first-20-years%3Fplatform%3Damp&ved=0ahUKEwimgruvkLjhAhXhna0KHU2vByAQyM8BCCYwAA&usg=AOvVaw32tw9vVaBJAKftG-UYLST7&ampcf=1
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: skullman80 on April 04, 2019, 10:19:15 PM
Those things are hideous.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Hawk 34 on April 04, 2019, 11:15:14 PM
Looked better when Kathy Ireland wore em
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Kotzenjunge on April 04, 2019, 11:44:21 PM
Looked better when Kathy Ireland wore em
This is something you can say about a sack of potatoes.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: pujoljunkie on April 05, 2019, 04:56:15 AM
They're not bad but black is not one of our colors and all of the black accents should be white. The helmet, for instance, has a pretty good shell but if the facemask were white and not black they'd look great. The numbers and lettering are fine I guess. The white jersey/green pants combo looks good. Get rid of that black alternate though, yikes.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Flik on April 15, 2019, 01:36:22 AM
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26529275/sources-qb-wilson-sign-deadline

Not looking like a deal is going to get done between the Seahawks and Wilson. Apparently Wilson wants a contract that when the cap increases by whatever percentage, so too does his contract increase by that percentage.

So yeah, not seeing a deal getting done.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on April 16, 2019, 12:08:45 AM
Wilson got paid as expected: "Seahawks signed Russell Wilson to a four-year, $140 million extension through 2023. The deal includes a massive $65 million signing bonus with $107 million in total guarantees."
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Flik on April 16, 2019, 04:00:32 AM
Done at the last minutes from what I heard. Seahawks got Wilson to walk away from the % cap hit, probably because more guarantees.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Kotzenjunge on April 16, 2019, 12:43:46 PM
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26540577/powder-blues-serve-chargers-home-uniform

FINALLY!!
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on April 16, 2019, 11:45:45 PM
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26540577/powder-blues-serve-chargers-home-uniform

FINALLY!!

It was one of the most obvious marketing/sales aspects for that team that it's legit mind boggling it took them this long to do it.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on April 17, 2019, 12:18:26 AM
Patriots agreed to terms with WR Demaryius Thomas on a one-year contract worth up to $6 Million (likely incentive based). Reunites Thomas and McDaniels while keeping with New England's typical low risk/high reward contract tactics. If Thomas doesn't show anything, New England can cut him fairly cheap or get a good season at a cheaper cost compared to other bigger names who were on the market.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on April 17, 2019, 08:00:32 AM
NFL Schedule is being leaked. Patriots have the Steelers, Ravens, and Chiefs on the docket. Also opening the year against the AFC East for the most part as well as closing out against the Jets and Bills IIRC the final 2 weeks.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Thrasher on April 18, 2019, 03:06:25 AM
I think I like the Panthers now. Sorry Saintsfan.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Saints_Fan_H on April 18, 2019, 03:41:31 AM
I think I like the Panthers now. Sorry Saintsfan.
(https://i.imgur.com/6wbJAkG.gif)
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on April 23, 2019, 05:43:37 AM
Chiefs acquired DE Frank Clark and 3x84 from the Seahawks in exchange for the 1x29, 3x92, and a 2020 second-round pick (whichever is lower).
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Kotzenjunge on April 26, 2019, 02:38:47 PM
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26614105/wr-baldwin-played-final-down

Angry Doug Baldwin might have outplayed his own body's limits. Possible retirement at the age of 30.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Krankor on May 07, 2019, 10:22:51 AM
Update on the Bears off-season place kicking news.

Bears waived Redford Jones and John Baron following rookie mini-camp this past weekend.

Today the Bears have traded for Eddy Pineiro. In exhange, the Raiders will get a 7th round pick IF he plays in a certain number of games for the Bears this season.

Pineiro will join the kicking competition with mini-camp kicking survivors Chris Blewitt and Elliott Fry.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: MFer on May 13, 2019, 03:59:06 AM
Former HC and DC Gunther Cunningham passed away at 72.

(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/TUgwNQLK8R0QDTrUiR_mryHwZsc=/4x0:401x265/1200x800/filters:focal(4x0:401x265):no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/3745121/gunkick.0.gif)
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on May 13, 2019, 04:24:49 AM
Patriots have been bolstering their roster with veterans recently signing un-retired TE Ben Watson, bringing him back home, and also signing WR Dontrelle Inman.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Kotzenjunge on May 15, 2019, 10:34:33 AM
The Jets canned their GM today, Adam Gase will be taking over in the meantime.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Krankor on May 15, 2019, 11:14:33 AM
The Jets canned their GM today, Adam Gase will be taking over in the meantime.

(http://www.denverpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/891ec794661648e786c3cd12fc59f064.jpg)
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Krankor on May 15, 2019, 11:25:19 AM
It'll be nice to see Adam Gase get canned in a year. Dude is a cancer. I was pleased when the alleged "Jay Cutler whisperer" left Chicago to go to the Dolphins.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Aero on May 15, 2019, 12:07:49 PM
The Jets deserve all the criticism for the timing of this—amazing that they let him oversee this much of an offseason, with that amount of cap—but can’t say MacCagnan hasn't dug his own grave.

He’s hit on several first rounders, but after that, the roster depth produced from the draft has been horrendous. And this is a GM who was hired for his scouting ability.


Edit: lol and Gase has already traded Darren Lee to KC for a 6th rounder.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on May 16, 2019, 03:16:29 AM
Patriots are bringing back Jamie Collins into the fold. Apparently Jerod Mayo was a key factor in this move.

Guy had a ton of talent but freelanced and worked himself out of the Patriots and over to Cleveland when he was traded. Not sold that Collins has changed his attitude/demeanor but we'll see. If the deal is minimal, it sounds like Collins will have to prove himself as willing to play by the book to stick on the roster/find time on the field. Best case scenario is Belichick uses him better, he buys into the team first mentality, and we get Patrick Chung 2.0.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: fazzle on May 16, 2019, 03:53:14 AM


Pat Pete suspended 6 games due to PEDs.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Kotzenjunge on May 16, 2019, 11:48:12 AM
He isn't going to appeal the suspension either, so you might as well bake this into expectations for Arizona this season.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on May 16, 2019, 11:32:51 PM
Apparently he got 2 extra games because they found a masking agent as well, meaning Peterson knew what he was doing and tried to cover it up.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on May 17, 2019, 12:23:29 PM
So it appears Adam Gase and Le'Veon Bell are already butting heads.  This will end well...
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Flik on May 17, 2019, 02:19:05 PM
Well, Gase never wanted him there, so that's not surprising.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on May 20, 2019, 03:41:20 AM
Rueben Foster was carted off with a knee injury two plays into the first OTA.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on May 26, 2019, 03:43:38 AM
Been expecting this one for awhile because his health has been poor, but 5 time NFL Champion QB Bart Starr passed away.  An absolute legend.  RIP
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: fazzle on June 03, 2019, 11:49:13 AM
Gerald McCoy signing with the Panthers, 1 year $8.5 million
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Flik on June 07, 2019, 10:35:10 AM
Texans fired their GM. Uh, what the hell.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on June 08, 2019, 04:58:03 AM
Texans fired their GM. Uh, what the hell.

Rumors are they're targeting Nick Caserio in New England and Scott Pioli, who recently left Atlanta, is also an intriguing possibility as a replacement.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Brodypedia on June 09, 2019, 04:53:16 PM
Bears had a 100 years kickoff celebration with a ton of their alumni.  Emery Moorehead came out and said he talked to the NFL reps and we might have a HOF class of upwards of 17 people next year to make up for all the old timers who have been left out.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on June 11, 2019, 11:41:37 AM
The Raiders are going to be on Hard Knocks this year.  Should be interesting to say the least.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on June 11, 2019, 11:26:01 PM
The Raiders are going to be on Hard Knocks this year.  Should be interesting to say the least.

Somewhere 909 freaks out.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on June 12, 2019, 02:45:33 AM
Poor Krankor and Bears Fans. EDIT: K Chris Blewitt got waived.

Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Krankor on June 12, 2019, 06:15:10 AM
We're going to end up trading a 1st rd pick for a damn kicker.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Saints_Fan_H on June 12, 2019, 08:02:17 AM
I don't know what went through Nagy's mind, but it wasn't a football.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on June 13, 2019, 12:45:53 AM
Patriots sent a conditional 7th Round pick to Detroit for TE Michael Roberts, better known for his blocking than his receiving ability. Yet another body for competition.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Kotzenjunge on June 16, 2019, 01:48:52 AM
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26981310/oj-joins-twitter-got-little-gettin-even-do
Quote
In the Twitter video, Simpson said his followers would get to read all his thoughts and opinions on "just about everything.''

"Now, there's a lot of fake O.J. accounts out there,'' he said, adding that this one would be official. He appeared to record the message himself and ended it with a grin.

OJ'S GONNA SHOOT BROTHER
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Thrasher on June 16, 2019, 07:04:38 AM
I guess there aren't any Bronco fans on this board. Pat Bowlen died a few days ago and the ownership of the Broncos has been a mess for awhile.
https://www.9news.com/article/sports/nfl/denver-broncos/mike-klis/broncos-ownership-team-will-continue-to-be-controlled-by-pat-bowlen-trust/
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: fazzle on June 16, 2019, 12:38:15 PM
Patriots sent a conditional 7th Round pick to Detroit for TE Michael Roberts, better known for his blocking than his receiving ability. Yet another body for competition.

Turns out Roberts failed his physical and the trade was rescinded.   Roberts was then cut by the Lions
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Thrasher on June 18, 2019, 09:10:24 AM
https://nypost.com/2019/06/18/brett-favres-instagram-hacked-with-return-to-nfl-post/

"Hacked"
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Brodypedia on June 19, 2019, 01:50:44 AM
Patriots sent a conditional 7th Round pick to Detroit for TE Michael Roberts, better known for his blocking than his receiving ability. Yet another body for competition.

And the Packers scooped him up....

Turns out Roberts failed his physical and the trade was rescinded.   Roberts was then cut by the Lions
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: fazzle on June 19, 2019, 11:26:19 AM
Aaand the Packers also cut him due to a failed physical
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Brodypedia on June 20, 2019, 01:09:56 PM

ARod hasn't slept all off season.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Baby Shoes on June 23, 2019, 01:32:30 PM
Biggest news of the offseason

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2842416-video-cam-newton-denied-after-offering-1500-to-switch-seats-on-flight
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Saints_Fan_H on June 23, 2019, 04:42:20 PM
come on, we've all had horror story trips in our lives. Just based off of my own travel nightmares in the past, I'd tell someone to keep walking even at $1500 cash being offered.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on June 23, 2019, 05:21:48 PM
I'd take it instantly. It's free money.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Gert on June 25, 2019, 08:28:42 AM
Bengals 1st Round pick Jonah Williams OUT for the season after a torn labrum. The Bengals literally may lose their best offensive lineman for 2019 before he ever played a game for them....

Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Hawk 34 on June 25, 2019, 09:44:31 AM
Really should just trade Dalton as soon as the first team inevitably loses their QB in pre-season.  Fully tank for a top draft pick next year.   You were looking at another 6-8 win season at best anyways, can’t just keep plugging away in mediocrity.

The plus side?  The Marvin Era would have denied this news for weeks, so at least this regime is honest?
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on June 25, 2019, 10:35:57 AM
The Bengals have a history of losing first round draft picks to pre-season injuries, don't they?
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on June 25, 2019, 11:29:28 PM
As a result of the injury, Cordy Glenn is likely to move back to LT for this year. From Bengals.com, "Christian Westerman, who has two NFL starts in his three seasons with the Bengals, took a bulk of the starter’s reps at left guard during the minicamp while Glenn moved back to left tackle. But the newly-signed John Jerry, a nine-year veteran, also got a look there.

Clint Boling, the incumbent left guard, didn’t practice during the spring with an unknown ailment and it’s not clear when he’ll be available at training camp, which begins July 27."

Should be something to keep an eye on.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Saints_Fan_H on June 26, 2019, 03:01:19 PM
During regular game action I watch the ball but during training camp and preseason games (when camera angles allow) I focus on the line battles. I INTEND to do it during regular game action but I get caught up in the game, whereas in practice I can be more aware to watch the little things.

Hell a few seasons ago there were 3 long snappers in Saints camp (wtf?) and I legit was watching them off in their little corner of the practice field while the rest of my group was oogling Jimmy Graham.


Or did I just read too much into Harley's suggestion to keep an eye on the Bengals OL situation?
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Gert on June 26, 2019, 05:01:23 PM
Really should just trade Dalton as soon as the first team inevitably loses their QB in pre-season.  Fully tank for a top draft pick next year.   You were looking at another 6-8 win season at best anyways, can’t just keep plugging away in mediocrity.

The plus side?  The Marvin Era would have denied this news for weeks, so at least this regime is honest?

Truthfully, I think the Bengals should look into trading Geno Atkins & AJ Green. Two of probably my top 10 Bengals of all time but they deserve better and the Bengals should try to maximize their value to get assets.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on June 26, 2019, 11:18:38 PM
During regular game action I watch the ball but during training camp and preseason games (when camera angles allow) I focus on the line battles. I INTEND to do it during regular game action but I get caught up in the game, whereas in practice I can be more aware to watch the little things.

Hell a few seasons ago there were 3 long snappers in Saints camp (wtf?) and I legit was watching them off in their little corner of the practice field while the rest of my group was oogling Jimmy Graham.


Or did I just read too much into Harley's suggestion to keep an eye on the Bengals OL situation?

I like sporadically watching the line battles, partly because Dante Scarnecchia is maybe one of the best OL Coach ever and I always find it interesting to try and see technique that the Patriots OL uses for Draft scouting purposes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQwFEPzlqMI
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: MFer on July 03, 2019, 09:12:54 AM
Jared Lorenezo AKA the Pillsbury Throwboy AKA the Hefty Lefty died at 38 from cardiac and renal issues. Holds many Kentucky passing records and was Eli's backup for a few years. Struggled with his weight practically all his life (especially post-NFL)...RIP.

Also, former QB Anthony Wright was shot several times by his girlfriend's ex...appears to be in stable condition but it's not a good time to be a former Giant QB.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Kotzenjunge on July 03, 2019, 02:24:26 PM
That fucking sucks, I loved watching that guy play.

https://youtu.be/WfXiVtuXjGU
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Thrasher on July 04, 2019, 02:50:44 AM
Before he died, I had an eBay alert for Jared cause I wanted a jersey. Occasionally footballs and cards signed by him would show up. Today there's at least fifty new listings using his name.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: MFer on July 05, 2019, 03:11:58 AM
Dolphins DT Kendrick Norton lost his arm after getting into a car accident. He was drafted by the Panthers in the 7th round last year before getting picked up by Miami.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on July 05, 2019, 11:28:30 PM
Dolphins DT Kendrick Norton lost his arm after getting into a car accident. He was drafted by the Panthers in the 7th round last year before getting picked up by Miami.

Very sad. Read he got cut off, car rolled over, and they had to actually amputate his left arm at the scene :( Hope he makes a full mental recovery from this and lives a long life.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: MFer on July 11, 2019, 04:35:14 AM
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Amy pats fan on July 11, 2019, 01:13:08 PM
Dolphins DT Kendrick Norton lost his arm after getting into a car accident. He was drafted by the Panthers in the 7th round last year before getting picked up by Miami.

Very sad. Read he got cut off, car rolled over, and they had to actually amputate his left arm at the scene :( Hope he makes a full mental recovery from this and lives a long life.

Yeah, that's awful.  The NFL is paying for his medical treatment.  I read he's already had three surgeries and might need a couple more before they can attach a prosthetic arm.  I hope Miami honors his base salary for the season.  It's like half a million or so which is nothing to them.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: Harley Quinn on July 15, 2019, 04:15:11 AM
Bengals OL gets shakier as Clint Boling retired at age 30, citing medical issues.

49ers signed K Robbie Gould to a two-year, $10.5 million contract.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason
Post by: strummer on July 15, 2019, 05:57:36 AM
Pretty amazing how kickers seem to become great (again) after they leave the Giants.  Gould sucked when he kicked for them.  Matt Bryant sucked as a Giant as well