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Title: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Harley Quinn on September 04, 2019, 04:04:43 AM
As noted in the other thread, Antonio Brown expressed his displeasure at being fined for unexcused absences. AB gonna just go HAM on everybody, rogue boss like.

(http://www.nflstreaming.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/NFL-2019-Regular-Season-Week-1-Schedule.jpg)

Relive this classic Bears/Packers intro and GET HYPED!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOHfCNrlv58

For those interested, NFL Network is airing the Do Your Job 3 and America's Game specials tonight.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Kotzenjunge on September 04, 2019, 04:17:19 AM
This damn hurricane coming keeps making me forget that the season starts TOMORROW and it opens with FUCKIN' PACKERS/BEARS. Even my father considers that "real teams," unlike last year's Falcons/Eagles opener.

(I don't expect a good night for Green Bay but who knows)
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: KingPK on September 04, 2019, 06:30:52 AM
https://deadspin.com/why-your-team-sucks-2019-new-england-patriots-1837655566

Disappointing.  He blew his rage load on the Rams yesterday it seems.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: KingPK on September 05, 2019, 03:41:31 AM

Playoff team.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 05, 2019, 04:19:51 AM
Yeah, that went south quickly.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 05, 2019, 04:36:15 AM
He’s like Kenny Powers
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on September 05, 2019, 04:37:56 AM
Apparently if they suspend him it voids his guarantees.

EDIT:  Well, all but $1 million anyways.  Close enough.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on September 05, 2019, 04:43:01 AM
Question for 909 since he's the Raiders guy in here:

If the Brown vs. Mayock situation can't be salvaged, which one of the two do you personally think will be out the door?
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 05, 2019, 05:02:39 AM
Brown. You have to get rid of the guy who pulls a Kenny Powers and goes..

AB: "YOU'RE FINING ME 50K FOR NOT SHOWING UP TO PRACTICE???"
MM: yeah
AB: "FUCK YOU BRO YOU'RE FINING ME 50K WHY DON'T YOU JUST TAKE ALL 30 MILLION" *threatens to punch Mayock*

Antonio Brown is also the kind of player that can win 4 or 5 games by himself, so that sucks...but this isn't going well.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Harley Quinn on September 05, 2019, 05:47:16 AM
How bad of a meeting did it have to be that Antonio Brown outright threatened to punch Mike Mayock in the face.

Also AB reportedly kicked a football away and yelled at Mayock to fine him for that. LOL.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Cartman on September 05, 2019, 05:51:16 AM
It's pretty clear that Brown needs help, he's not mentally stable.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Flik on September 05, 2019, 06:47:54 AM
You know, I wonder if Mayock originally told Brown he wasn't going to do anything originally, changed course and that's what made Brown go full rage mode.

Sure, more like Brown is insane, but if I was originally told "hey, we're not doing anything" to "we're going to fine you now", I would be probably about as animated as him.

Though considering now a few people I've seen are suggesting that he's never playing for the Raiders... Dude's probably needing help.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 05, 2019, 07:34:02 AM
damn threatened to punch him in the face? That's pretty serious. not that you should threaten anyone, but it feels worse if you're a young super athlete doing it against an old guy.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 05, 2019, 07:38:23 AM
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Kotzenjunge on September 05, 2019, 07:45:41 AM
😄😄😄
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Saints_Fan_H on September 05, 2019, 09:18:44 AM
I love football.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: KingPK on September 05, 2019, 09:50:36 AM
Vontaze sez people only should be punched and concussed ON THE FIELD, GODDAMNIT!
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: THE TUGSTER on September 05, 2019, 10:09:50 AM
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on September 05, 2019, 10:18:53 AM
Apparently if they suspend him it voids his guarantees.

EDIT:  Well, all but $1 million anyways.  Close enough.

An update from Pro Football Talk after seeing his contract corrects this and confirms that the Raiders could potentially owe him nothing if they get rid of him.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: KingPK on September 05, 2019, 11:19:21 AM
C'mon, go all the way and make the players wear period authentic uniforms too.  I wanted to see at least three deaths on the field tonight.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 05, 2019, 11:22:00 AM
Apparently if they suspend him it voids his guarantees.

EDIT:  Well, all but $1 million anyways.  Close enough.

An update from Pro Football Talk after seeing his contract corrects this and confirms that the Raiders could potentially owe him nothing if they get rid of him.

I think he will either miss Monday's game or be suspended for a series.

Then, as long as he gets 10 targets a game, he will continue to play without anything dumb happening again. First time he doesn't there will be an outburst and he'll be gone.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on September 05, 2019, 11:37:30 AM
Wow the Packers look fugly so far.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 05, 2019, 11:51:30 AM
The Packers offense looks very poorly coached. Some horrible choices in formation to start this game off.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on September 05, 2019, 12:07:06 PM
This game is making a good case for playing starters (at least on offense) in the pre-season.  Chicago hasn't exactly been great on offense either.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 05, 2019, 12:45:46 PM
They just need one game where they play three quarters.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: The Amazing Rando on September 05, 2019, 12:58:59 PM
I'm sure Jordy Nelson is a hell of a guy and was a good player, but I'm not sure I'd go as far as that little ad break in referring to him as "NFL Legend Jordy Nelson"
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: KingPK on September 05, 2019, 02:29:23 PM
Woof.  The Super Bowl was a better game than this.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on September 05, 2019, 02:30:09 PM
A win is a win!  And maybe our defense will actually be good this year.  It has been a long time since the Packers were carried by the D.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Saints_Fan_H on September 05, 2019, 02:46:34 PM
That's almost a 1919 era score.

At least it wasn't 3-0 or 2-0.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on September 05, 2019, 04:32:25 PM
That's almost a 1919 era score.

At least it wasn't 3-0 or 2-0.

Fun Fact:  There were fewer points scored tonight (13) than the first ever Packers/Bears game in 1921 (20).
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 05, 2019, 06:25:38 PM
I thought the Packers would win tonight, as evidenced by some posts I made in the chat that I didn't make here. Their defense has been improved massively. They did overpay for a lot of the players they added, but the team had to make improvements and that money isn't precluding them from putting together a good team.

The Bears did something I was thinking they wouldn't be dumb enough to do, but I forgot that coaches don't always trust rookies in the first weeks of the season. So, they benched Montgomery and they definitely paid for it. Trubisky also has major issues as a QB. I know some experts pointed to his completion percentage as proof of quality, but I don't think that's true in the least. He also refuses to throw to anyone other than his favored receiver. On top of that, you have Patterson put in as an RB on 3rd and short, Cohen getting targets as a WR instead of Anthony Miller, and I question whether or not the coach has any clue what they're doing. Coaches need to wise up when it comes to the way they overuse quick running backs. Almost all of those running backs are not better than your goddamn wide receivers. If they were, they would play wide receiver and they'd be able to catch the ball down the field in traffic. But they can't. The number of rushing attempts the Bears had was also a joke.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Krankor on September 05, 2019, 09:18:48 PM
I turned the game off and went to bed right after half time when on 3rd & 10 they threw a short dump off pass to Mike Davis at the side line. That's shades of shitty Bears offense and quarterbacking of the past. Not watching that shit. Offense looked rusty as fuck because they played no one in preseason. Use some guys in preseason or lose regular season games.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Kotzenjunge on September 05, 2019, 10:03:45 PM
I think Nagy's going to prove too clever for his own good. Their first offensive snap was needless razzle dazzle that nearly took the nuclear home crowd out of it immediately. Instead the Bears murdered their fans like they enjoyed doing it, slowly, surgically, making sure the wails and cries of pain escalated just right while balancing it out with a defense that kept giving hope until there was none left.

It's a new day, yes it is!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm_vvAPaa4I
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Harley Quinn on September 05, 2019, 10:57:19 PM
Bears tried to get cute and used Mike Davis a ton (5 carries, 6 catches) rather than leaning on Montgomery. Didn't even bother to give Cohen any carries and Trubisky refused to really go downfield against Green Bay.

Still not sold on the Packers OL overhaul though. Allowed 5 Sacks (to be fair, it's a very nasty Bears defense) but Rodgers looked like he was struggling for most of the game and as usual, the running game did next to nothing.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on September 06, 2019, 03:03:55 AM
https://sports.yahoo.com/antonio-brown-called-mike-mayock-154628196.html
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on September 06, 2019, 03:16:15 AM
It doesn't sound like Brown is getting much support in the lockerroom according to David Carr.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 06, 2019, 04:08:36 AM
It doesn't sound like Brown is getting much support in the lockerroom according to David Carr.




This has to be really distracting.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Thrasher on September 06, 2019, 04:10:26 AM
The Bears don't need touchdowns to win; just field goals.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 06, 2019, 04:55:34 AM
Brown is playing Monday.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Kotzenjunge on September 06, 2019, 05:21:59 AM
If he doesn't get targeted eight times or more, despite barely having any reps in the offense, there'll be another meltdown.

Before the season I thought the Browns and Raiders were the "big overhaul teams" worth watching but for entirely different reasons. I've had zero optimism about Oakland (sadly) since Gruden came back. Shame, I like when the Raiders are good.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 06, 2019, 05:25:52 AM
I think he'll be targeted at least ten times. He's practiced every day except one since his foot healed. The greater concern is that the Raiders starters only took one series in the second preseason game, didn't play a snap besides that.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Kotzenjunge on September 06, 2019, 06:54:14 AM
Media reports are typical for no white grievances: "disparaging language" was being used in the argument. Let's not say "cracker."
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 06, 2019, 07:21:52 AM



Oh man, this season is gonna be hilarious.

Before the season I thought the Browns and Raiders were the "big overhaul teams" worth watching but for entirely different reasons. I've had zero optimism about Oakland (sadly) since Gruden came back. Shame, I like when the Raiders are good.

I wouldn't say that. The team is very well coached on offense. Gruden knows what he's doing. However, last season, they had basically no talent on offense. Jordy Nelson was completely washed up, and one of their best receivers is currently on the practice squad. They also had the duo of Marshawn Lynch and Doug Martin, both of whom were washed up and slow. I think they were trying to tank and did pretty well at it. Even with the team being so low on talent on offense, towards the end of the season things clicked with Carr and he was playing well. It still wasn't easy because of a talent deficiency. Now they have Josh Jacobs, Antonio Brown, Tyrell Williams, Hunter Renfrow, Darren Waller...to say nothing of Trent Brown and Richie Incognito replacing offensive linemen who could barely perform...their offense should be good.

Now, the unit he doesn't coach is the defense, and other than the secondary they're not so good. The secondary should be very strong though.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on September 06, 2019, 09:32:50 AM
Brown is playing Monday.

Mayock should resign.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 06, 2019, 11:13:08 AM
Brown is playing Monday.

Mayock should resign.

I understand why people think this, but I need to break down why this wouldn't happen. If push comes to shove, Brown has to leave the team, but I didn't think this would be a situation where that was the case.

1. Most importantly, Mike Mayock and Jon Gruden created this mess. They wanted to improve the team quickly and shipped over some shitty picks for a troublesome 1500 yard receiver. They knew something like this would happen and made the decision from the start that they could handle it. You cannot run away from your mess and hope to ever get a job in an NFL front office again.

2. Brown is far from the only troublesome guy on the team now. Mayock and Gruden also decided to give contracts to Incognito and Burfict. They made the decision that winning was more important than everything else. The same decision the Chiefs made today when they gave a new contract to a child abuser.

3. They shouldn't have fined him on September 4th for something that happened on August 18th. That shit should have been put to bed as soon as he came back to practice every day, which he did. I can't believe that would ever be brought back up and it shows extreme incompetence.

4. At the end of the day, they can't suspend him because that shit can backfire on them in multiple ways. He would unquestionably argue that the fine was unjust because of his helmet grievance and foot injury. If an arbitrator decides that the Raiders didn't have grounds to suspend him, they're stuck paying him and never had him on the football field. If they suspend him, they draw the line again that they're willing to have a poor season in the name of behavior. They signed a lot of players who wanted to win, and they have no chance to have a winning season without Antonio Brown. This guy is the difference between a team going 6-10 and 10-6. There are a handful of players at best who have his impact on the game.

5. They could have cut him, but you see people salivating over the idea that he plays for the Patriots or something like that, and that sounds like a stupid ass plan to me. If any of the 31 teams would take the guy on their team, it's hard to kick him off your own team. Suspending him for more than a quarter was not an option.


At the end of the day, this is a league where Michael Irvin tried to kill his teammate with scissors, where Steve Smith injured his teammates in practice multiple times, where Bill Romanowski ended a teammates career in a fit of roid rage, and where Charles Haley beat off in front of his teammates and put his dick on them. All those players still won a lot. Antonio Brown is definitely mentally ill and needs treatment, but that could be said for a lot of NFL players.

You also have to understand that Brown has had a bad example set for him...

(https://preview.redd.it/kwkl25rr22l31.jpg?width=548&auto=webp&s=a6edc75fd82979ce7ece62fb4da1a439cad65473)


There is some amount of deprogramming required for Brown, if that's even possible at this point. He needs to grow up, but on the scale of bad behavior by NFL players, this barely even rates on the scale. The greater issue is that this is the only sport where players have these problems and it's clearly related to brain trauma. As soon as he gets 100 yards on Monday, which he will, and if the Raiders win because of that, everyone in the Raiders front office will be happy. But, if Mayock wants to work in the NFL again, he shouldn't resign. He waited a very long time for this chance and made the decision that he wanted Antonio Brown on the team, knowing what that meant.

My personal feeling is that I want the team to win, but I don't want anyone like Richie Incognito on the team. Antonio Brown ain't even half that bad, so I can deal with it.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Kotzenjunge on September 06, 2019, 08:08:21 PM
The audio in that YouTube video of the phone call between player and coach, even if it's edited to paint AB in the most positive light, is yet another self-inflicted wound. Gruden sounds exhausted by it all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCH_NCZ7Ejs
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Harley Quinn on September 06, 2019, 10:45:22 PM
Gruden sounds exhausted by it all.

909 pointed it out to me in chat but Gruden already dealt with that type of shit with Keyshawn Johnson in Tampa Bay prior to his run in Dallas. Fun Fact: Bill Belichick also dealt with that with Terry Glenn prior to his run in Dallas.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: KingPK on September 08, 2019, 04:18:16 AM
Josh Allen looked like a competent QB for, oh, five minutes.  Then he turned it over twice including a pick-6.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Aero on September 08, 2019, 04:29:38 AM
Biggest takeaway on Allen right now is that he needs to learn to slide. Seems like he's getting hit every other play.

Also, through three offensive possessions, the Bills have yet to call a designed run play. Trying to attack the Jets' poor secondary, but surprising, nonetheless.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: KingPK on September 08, 2019, 05:02:41 AM
Dolphins getting spanked 28-0 I understand.  Washington being up 17-0 on Philly is a surprise.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: strummer on September 08, 2019, 05:15:11 AM
This Jets/Bills game has been dreadful
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 08, 2019, 05:17:48 AM
The Jets don’t have a particularly good defense, but I do like their offense. Anyway what I’m saying is the Bills suck.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Aero on September 08, 2019, 05:22:49 AM
This Jets/Bills game has been dreadful

This post is dreadful. This is AFC Beast (non-Pats) football at its finest.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: oldskool on September 08, 2019, 05:27:42 AM
Carolina looks really sloppy. McCaffrey tried to hurdle Weddle and kneed him in the head, he was bleeding pretty bad and is out with "a head laceration" because they don't want to say concussion.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on September 08, 2019, 05:31:21 AM
A miracle the Bills are still in it. D looking really good.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: fazzle on September 08, 2019, 05:38:16 AM
Bad news:  That first half was a fucking shitshow for the Bills

Good news:  That first half was a fucking shitshow for the Jets
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on September 08, 2019, 05:55:19 AM
The shitshow continues.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Aero on September 08, 2019, 06:09:17 AM
The Jets should just go for 2 every time.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: fazzle on September 08, 2019, 06:11:03 AM
Well that's probably game
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 08, 2019, 06:18:04 AM
Josh Allen throws into good coverage more than any other QB in this league.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: fazzle on September 08, 2019, 06:39:02 AM
If only the Bills didn't wait until the second half to give Singletary the damn ball
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Krankor on September 08, 2019, 06:50:55 AM
Titans are just TOO MUCH for the Browns.

Cleveland should be embarrassed.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: KingPK on September 08, 2019, 06:51:14 AM
Are the Dolphins gonna be worse than the '17 Browns?
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Aero on September 08, 2019, 06:53:29 AM
One by one, the Jets defense is going down with injuries. I'm so nervous right now.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Aero on September 08, 2019, 06:54:52 AM
Are the Dolphins gonna be worse than the '17 Browns?

Pretty sure Fitzmagic will be good for a win or two.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: strummer on September 08, 2019, 06:57:25 AM
Holy crap Bills TD!
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: KingPK on September 08, 2019, 06:57:40 AM
LOLJETS

+4 TO margin and down late.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on September 08, 2019, 06:58:12 AM
Guess it's crushing loss time.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: fazzle on September 08, 2019, 06:59:16 AM
JOSH.   FUCKS.   ALLEN.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 08, 2019, 07:03:02 AM
Guess it's crushing loss time.

I'd say don't be so negative but I don't blame you for having those expectations. This team has met them time and time again. With that being said, the Jets are just as much of a fuckup franchise.

lmao at Kevin Harlan's reaction to Wallace's pass breakup. He treated it like a Lebron dunk.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: KingPK on September 08, 2019, 07:04:52 AM
I guess you can say a lot of it was garbage time, but KC's defense is still pretty "eh".  It kept them from the Soup last year.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Aero on September 08, 2019, 07:10:03 AM
Ughhhh. Turns out CJ Mosley is pretty helpful on defense. Having a kicker would be nice, too.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on September 08, 2019, 07:15:03 AM
Holy shit. They actually did it.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: KingPK on September 08, 2019, 07:28:29 AM
Big Dick Nick is broken and out for a while.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 08, 2019, 08:23:00 AM
Jimmy G absolutely sucks lirl.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Kotzenjunge on September 08, 2019, 11:42:59 AM
Goddamn, Josh Gordon.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: KingPK on September 08, 2019, 12:24:18 PM
Only thing that hasn't looked great is the o-line.  Its gonna take them a bit to adjust to no Andrews.

Other than that, this defense is ferocious and this might be a more complete offense than the '07 team due to the run game.

Good lord.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Kotzenjunge on September 08, 2019, 12:31:53 PM
I expected a Patriots win but this is absurd. Three scores and a shutout near halftime is nuts.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 08, 2019, 12:34:58 PM
The Steelers suck. People need to adjust to that reality. They have no depth all over the football field, an average QB, a bad defense, one good WR, and one good running back.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: KingPK on September 08, 2019, 01:09:34 PM
Sure, kick a FG down 20, Tomlin.  Your defense has them right where they want 'em.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: KingPK on September 08, 2019, 01:14:18 PM
That's not fair.  Just not fair.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: KingPK on September 08, 2019, 01:59:56 PM
Garbage time injuries suck.  This offensive line was in enough flux.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 08, 2019, 02:12:44 PM
Ben is washed up trash. The last pick capped off an extremely bad game, but there's no reason to throw into safety high coverage there.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Thrasher on September 08, 2019, 02:40:33 PM
I think I hate football.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on September 08, 2019, 04:04:58 PM
Pats are going 19-0.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Kotzenjunge on September 08, 2019, 10:20:42 PM
Nah, they'll still have a freak loss at Miami because NFL.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Brodypedia on September 09, 2019, 12:36:39 AM
As a Packer fan (Still predicting 6-10ish because I am a pessimist), I had my steak dinner Thursday, but was still excited to see football Sunday.  Then the Viks smashed the Falcons into dust right away and suddenly going to bed by 1pm didn't seem so bad.

Fuck the Patriots.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Thrasher on September 09, 2019, 01:25:00 AM
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Amy pats fan on September 09, 2019, 02:08:57 AM
Same Pats Time Same Pats Channel

FWIW Steelers looked equally bad compared to how good the Pats looked

Agree with PK that this offense has to the potential to be better than 07 if everyone stays on the field and the line sorts itself out (it generally does)
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Cartman on September 09, 2019, 07:59:52 AM
Big Ben is FAR from washed up. The guy just set a career high with 5129 Passing yds, 34 TD, and completed 67% of those passes. Losing Brown is going to hurt him, but he's still one of the best QB's in the league. Saying he's a bum now is just taking too much away from how Elite the Patriots defense is.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Krankor on September 09, 2019, 08:45:42 AM
He's kind of shaped like a refrigerator though...
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on September 09, 2019, 01:01:23 PM
Boy trading for Tunsil was sure worth it!   ::)
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on September 09, 2019, 01:17:51 PM
Well, I'll shut up now based on that Stills TD.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 09, 2019, 01:18:32 PM
Lmao the Saints are gonna have to cry about something else this time.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 09, 2019, 01:18:38 PM
LIRL
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on September 09, 2019, 01:19:05 PM
LIRL

 ;D
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: KingPK on September 09, 2019, 01:24:18 PM
PREVENT

DEFENSE

NEVER

WORKS
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on September 09, 2019, 01:24:37 PM
Finally a great prime time game!
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: strummer on September 09, 2019, 01:25:57 PM
Brutal d by the Texans at the end there
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 09, 2019, 02:01:23 PM
Great start to this game for Oakland. Defense looks very much improved.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 09, 2019, 02:17:38 PM
The Raiders suck and that's why AB wanted to leave, etc
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Flik on September 09, 2019, 02:27:04 PM
Congrats on your team not being terrible. Not trying to be funny, just congratulating you on your team doing well.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 09, 2019, 02:30:34 PM
Hey man, I'm glad they're not terrible
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 09, 2019, 02:37:49 PM
Their defense last year was also the worst I've ever seen in my life, they had 13 SACKS IN 16 GAMES. They still managed to win four games. This one just needs to be average for them to win eight.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 09, 2019, 03:18:23 PM
We'll be terrible now because our best corner probably broke his neck.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Saints_Fan_H on September 09, 2019, 03:32:41 PM
I actually missed most of the Saints game, friend's birthday and his child kept me outside playing catch. What 5 year old doesn't want to sit inside and watch sports instead of play them!? Nah, he's a great little guy.

Caught the 2nd half at home. Seems like that was the best part anyway. Defense still needs work.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Kotzenjunge on September 09, 2019, 03:51:04 PM
The Broncos are baaaaaaaaad. I thought last year was bottom for them, guess not. Oakland's playing really well themselves but fuckin' A is Denver awful.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 09, 2019, 03:54:04 PM
This is why I liked the team a lot with AB. I thought they would make the playoffs with an offense like this and that kind of wide receiver. Guys have filled in his absence very well. This is also a good defense they're playing against.

Lindsay is a great player and should have ran more. You have to keep feeding that guy until he breaks one. Their pass offense is abysmal.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 09, 2019, 03:59:15 PM


You love to see it
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Flik on September 10, 2019, 01:58:11 AM
Surprised it has been that long since someone has done it. Think that means he'll be really good.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on September 10, 2019, 09:06:44 AM
RIP Kaare Vedvik
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Aero on September 10, 2019, 10:03:28 AM
In a super rare trade, the Pats traded the corpse of Demaryius Thomas to the Jets for a 2021 6th round pick. Sure, why not.

Edit: And I don't mean to sound down on the trade. Save for Crowder, the Jets WR's may as well have been invisible on Sunday against a good Bills defense, so the depth doesn't hurt. Especially when he already knows the playbook. Could be a good role player.
 
And as Kahran hints, the Jets have their fourth starting kicker since preseason, signing Sam Ficken.

Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Amy pats fan on September 11, 2019, 01:04:20 AM
I think DT still has something left in the tank.  And now this looks dumb after the AB allegations
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Aero on September 11, 2019, 03:48:27 AM
It's probably not bad too from the Pats' perspective, though, because he was previously cut anyway. Only back because of Harry's injury, I think?

It suddenly does seem better for the Jets now, as Quincy Enunwa is out for the season with a neck injury. He missed all of 2017 with a similar injury, so he may be done for good. :(
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Amy pats fan on September 11, 2019, 06:09:17 AM
Harry was already out.  They actually cut DT and resigned him as a procedural move to give him a raise.  It was a vote of confidence and I was expecting him to contribute.  He had a big game in the last exhibition.  Jets might have got a steal
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Cartman on September 11, 2019, 07:36:27 AM
I think he's done, but I guess we're gonna find out now.
Title: Re: 2019 NFL Week 1: Pats Raise a Banner, Air Raid Sirens, and AB's War Against All
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 11, 2019, 08:03:39 AM
We lost Johnathan Abram for the season. I'm bummed out by this, this guy is a great talent and needed time to develop, but the lone bright side is that free safety is the only position on the market where there are still good players. This guy was a heat seeking missile though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4fQTpOmGis

That's only some of what happened on Monday.