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Title: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 07, 2019, 12:40:07 AM

haha wtf
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 07, 2019, 12:42:17 AM
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: The Amazing Rando on September 07, 2019, 02:02:19 AM
I can't even tell who is the most to blame anymore.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Flik on September 07, 2019, 02:08:17 AM
Just blame both. Saves you the hassle. Also, wonder where Brown will end up? I'd laugh if he ends up with the Pats.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on September 07, 2019, 02:22:18 AM
I can't even tell who is the most to blame anymore.

Brown.  The Raiders would be crazy not to go after his guarantees with the way he is acting.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: fazzle on September 07, 2019, 02:32:29 AM
Just blame both. Saves you the hassle. Also, wonder where Brown will end up? I'd laugh if he ends up with the Pats.

Between "coaches that would put up with/think they can handle his shit" and "teams that might desperately want one more piece"  I'm thinking either Chargers or Seahawks.   Not sure how much cap space they have though.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on September 07, 2019, 02:58:08 AM
No team will give him what he wants or anything close to what the Raiders did.  He'll need to accept a 1 year prove it deal if he wants to play.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Kotzenjunge on September 07, 2019, 02:58:54 AM
Antonio Brown has been released by the Raiders. Holy shit.  What a mess.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Harley Quinn on September 07, 2019, 03:06:23 AM
Totally deserves its own thread. What a chaotic clusterfuck of a situation. Curious which team tries to sign him given all the drama he's shown though. Pete and Seattle definitely seems like a destination that would try to take AB on.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on September 07, 2019, 03:17:57 AM
Totally deserves its own thread. What a chaotic clusterfuck of a situation. Curious which team tries to sign him given all the drama he's shown though. Pete and Seattle definitely seems like a destination that would try to take AB on.

But would they give him the guarantees he wants?  Sure, teams would gamble for the league minimum.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 07, 2019, 03:29:11 AM
you know how I'd feel if I lost out on 30 mill like that?

Spoiler: show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8iFSP_S5h8
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 07, 2019, 03:33:33 AM
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/antonio-brown-saga-troy-polamalu-reportedly-among-steelers-who-had-issues-with-wr-back-in-2012/

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"Coming into the next practice, he just got his money, he cusses out Dick LeBeau," former Steelers safety and current ESPN analyst Ryan Clark said earlier this year, via ProFootballTalk.com. "Coach LeBeau, somebody who Troy [Polamalu], myself, James Farrior, all respected so much that anything he ever said, there's no reply. We almost got into a physical altercation that day, me and Antonio Brown. Because my thing was, this is not how we behave. This is not how we act. And for sure we don't talk to Coach LeBeau that way."

Pittsburgh's defense was so enraged that Polamalu, one of the most mild-mannered players you'd ever meet, wanted full reign to hit Brown during practice.

"I saw Troy get seriously pissed off maybe twice, and this was one of those two times," a source told Yahoo Sports. "Troy was so mad, he says to wide receivers coach Scottie Montgomery, 'The receivers are live [targets] the rest of this period.' Which was Troy's way of saying, 'We're going after this guy.'"
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Harley Quinn on September 07, 2019, 03:50:23 AM
Totally deserves its own thread. What a chaotic clusterfuck of a situation. Curious which team tries to sign him given all the drama he's shown though. Pete and Seattle definitely seems like a destination that would try to take AB on.

But would they give him the guarantees he wants?  Sure, teams would gamble for the league minimum.

Vet Min for AB would only be $930,000. He was set to make $14.625 Million as a base salary with Oakland. My feeling is if a team signs him, it'll be a 1 year deal for around $8 to $10 Million with some clauses thrown in to safeguard the team. If AB is on good behavior, then said team could try to work out a longer bigger deal in the offseason.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 07, 2019, 04:16:23 AM
Yeah, like I said when this all started, push comes to shove he has to go if it got worse.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Hawk 34 on September 07, 2019, 04:22:31 AM
I know everyone wants to make the Patriots comment but if this fucking head case isn’t a Cowboy by the end of today, I’d be flabbergasted.   
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 07, 2019, 04:27:47 AM
Belichick wouldn't put up with any of this shit. Recording the conversation with a coach and posting it? In Pittsburgh he was supposedly late every day too.

Only a cuck like Jerry Jones would want these problems.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Hawk 34 on September 07, 2019, 05:14:11 AM
Marvin would have been okay with it but alas he’s gone.   I still wouldn’t discount Houston with how they’ve handled operations this summer.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Harley Quinn on September 07, 2019, 05:48:30 AM
Belichick wouldn't put up with any of this shit. Recording the conversation with a coach and posting it? In Pittsburgh he was supposedly late every day too.

Only a cuck like Jerry Jones would want these problems.

Belichick benched Welker for making feet jokes at Rex Ryan's expense during a press conference. No fucking way he'd tolerate Brown. AB has to be a Cowboy or Seahawk. I could also see Snyder's Redskins making a move just because of Snyder.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: pujoljunkie on September 07, 2019, 06:33:35 AM
I don’t think it matters if a team signs him or not. He can’t play in the NFL right now. Y’all think he’s just gonna sign with the Seahawks and start showing up to team meetings and catching team plane rides on time? Wherever he goes, if he goes anywhere, he’s just gonna get in a dispute with the league about not letting him wear the 100 emoji as a jersey number or some shit. I’d be shocked if he plays this year.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 07, 2019, 06:42:06 AM
I don’t think it matters if a team signs him or not. He can’t play in the NFL right now. Y’all think he’s just gonna sign with the Seahawks and start showing up to team meetings and catching team plane rides on time? Wherever he goes, if he goes anywhere, he’s just gonna get in a dispute with the league about not letting him wear the 100 emoji as a jersey number or some shit. I’d be shocked if he plays this year.

Exactly. And, on top of that, the team would have to give him a lot of guaranteed money just for him to sign a contract. He isn't taking any small contract.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Flik on September 07, 2019, 06:42:19 AM
oh a playoff bound team will be desperate enough to sign him. No way he rides the pine all year. Just a matter of when he gets sign and how long it'll be till then.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 07, 2019, 06:45:23 AM
He also just tweeted this:


I think everyone can figure out what that means for the next team that signs him.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Baby Shoes on September 07, 2019, 06:51:13 AM
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Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on September 07, 2019, 07:04:52 AM
I know everyone wants to make the Patriots comment but if this fucking head case isn’t a Cowboy by the end of today, I’d be flabbergasted.

Remember when Belichick jumped all over TO?  Me neither.   And for all the talk of Randy Moss, he only put up with him for three years (two with Brady) before exiling him to Minnesota.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: pujoljunkie on September 07, 2019, 07:08:19 AM
Randy Moss is also the best wide receiver of all time (non Jerry Rice Division) and AB is probably only the third best current NFL receiver.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Krankor on September 07, 2019, 07:30:51 AM
He's not going to act such a fool to jeopardize a new contract.  He has people leaching off his money teet like every other NFL player that will see to it. That's why as soon as the guaranteed money got voided his, and their, goal was to get the hell out. He had zero incentive to be on good behavior at that point. Just get out. Remember, this guy was traded to the Raiders. No one in their right mind would go to that circus. No one. Only money could make that seem like a better option that the circus that had become the Steelers.

Some playoff team, probably and likely the Patriots, maybe Dallas, will bring him in for a 1 year deal with team option years.

Moss was great on the Pats. His career was used up when they got rid of him. Pats gladly kept Josh Gordon around with all his baggage. All they care about is production. They aren't going to scold AB because he was late to their Super Bowl winning parade.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 07, 2019, 07:59:14 AM

lmao
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 07, 2019, 08:02:43 AM

"vet minimum"
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on September 07, 2019, 08:04:14 AM
Fuck this league.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: KingPK on September 07, 2019, 08:07:27 AM
Can he be shitcanned from THREE teams in one calendar year?  We shall see.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 07, 2019, 08:07:39 AM
He's not going to act such a fool to jeopardize a new contract.  He has people leaching off his money teet like every other NFL player that will see to it. That's why as soon as the guaranteed money got voided his, and their, goal was to get the hell out. He had zero incentive to be on good behavior at that point. Just get out. Remember, this guy was traded to the Raiders. No one in their right mind would go to that circus. No one. Only money could make that seem like a better option that the circus that had become the Steelers.

Some playoff team, probably and likely the Patriots, maybe Dallas, will bring him in for a 1 year deal with team option years.

Moss was great on the Pats. His career was used up when they got rid of him. Pats gladly kept Josh Gordon around with all his baggage. All they care about is production. They aren't going to scold AB because he was late to their Super Bowl winning parade.

You nailed it. The talk of the Pats' integrity is overblown. They take 'problem' players all the time.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: KingPK on September 07, 2019, 08:11:03 AM
Can't wait until he bitches about not getting enough passes on the sideline and like 15 people tell him to shut the fuck up and he becomes a decoy the rest of the game.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on September 07, 2019, 08:11:40 AM
Well we'll see how he behaves now.  If he flops out of New England, his career is probably over.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 07, 2019, 08:14:35 AM
He's gonna continue to behave like shit, nothing is going to change with his behavior. The thing that untalented people don't understand is that if you're really great at something, you can get away with doing whatever you want. When he takes a different plane than the team to a game is when we'll see what happens though.

He apparently started behaving like shit in Pittsburgh back in 2012. He never stopped behaving like shit and they never even tried to control it because they needed him to win. They put up with him for SIX YEARS.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: KingPK on September 07, 2019, 08:19:49 AM
Bill Belichick is the coldest, most calculated son of a bitch in sports.  He only sees Brown as a really good receiver and won't do shit like get into shouting matches over behavioral issues; if Brown punts a ball in anger, Bill might compliment him on his form before telling him he's benched.  Brady won't give a single fuck if Brown bitches at him either.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Harley Quinn on September 07, 2019, 08:26:25 AM
I'm going on the record officially as really not liking this move, even if it's a 1 year deal and New England will jettison Brown at the slightest shit fit he throws. I don't think he's good for the locker room and I fear it makes Brady revert his game back to forcing throws to certain WRs (ala Randy Moss by 2009/2010) while not spreading the ball around as much and making the offense a bit more one-dimensional.

With Brady and Edelman in the locker room and Belichick as coach, they have the seniority/mentality to not take shit from anybody. I anxiously await the first time Belichick, a guy who still needles Brady, reviews the game film, picks on Antonio Brown for little stuff, and AB gets pissed off and throws a meltdown.

I can see this being an Adalius Thomas 2.0 situation as much as a Randy Moss type scenario.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 07, 2019, 08:35:16 AM
Bill Belichick is the coldest, most calculated son of a bitch in sports.  He only sees Brown as a really good receiver and won't do shit like get into shouting matches over behavioral issues; if Brown punts a ball in anger, Bill might compliment him on his form before telling him he's benched.  Brady won't give a single fuck if Brown bitches at him either.

He would just laugh, he wouldn't even bench him. Belichick is like a continuation of Al Davis. No matter what players do, all they care about is winning.

The Raiders fucked this up the moment Mayock opened his mouth. He needed to shut the fuck up.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Cartman on September 07, 2019, 08:45:26 AM
I love everything...that is all.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on September 07, 2019, 08:56:09 AM
I'm going on the record officially as really not liking this move, even if it's a 1 year deal and New England will jettison Brown at the slightest shit fit he throws. I don't think he's good for the locker room and I fear it makes Brady revert his game back to forcing throws to certain WRs (ala Randy Moss by 2009/2010) while not spreading the ball around as much and making the offense a bit more one-dimensional.

With Brady and Edelman in the locker room and Belichick as coach, they have the seniority/mentality to not take shit from anybody. I anxiously await the first time Belichick, a guy who still needles Brady, reviews the game film, picks on Antonio Brown for little stuff, and AB gets pissed off and throws a meltdown.

I can see this being an Adalius Thomas 2.0 situation as much as a Randy Moss type scenario.

I don't see any risk.  It is a one year deal and if he acts up, he's out the door.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Flik on September 07, 2019, 09:00:38 AM
I was sort of kidding when I said that the Pats would sign him. Bet he stays with them and wins a SuperBowl with Brady now.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Amy pats fan on September 07, 2019, 09:07:04 AM
Hahahahahha.  Wow.  I'll wait and see if he can keep his behavior in check before I judge.  I'm not so shocked that they snatched him up as I am they gave him such a big signing bonus, wasn't sure what his market was gonna be. 

I kind of think he'll be on his best behavior to stick it to the Raiders and his critics, show he can be a good soldier for a real football organization, and maybe win a Super Bowl.  Then he can get paid again and go back to being a headcase

If it works out the WR corps is stacked
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: KingPK on September 07, 2019, 09:11:11 AM
Time to bring this back, I guess
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Flik on September 07, 2019, 09:45:42 AM
More I think about it, the more I'm thinking Brown did all this on purpose. Dude's getting exactly what his contract was for this year, there isn't some weird stipulation on his money (he's getting 9m no matter what) and because it is the Pats, if he's a soldier for them, they'll extend him.

If that's the case, more power to Brown to go to the probably the best chance to win it all.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Kotzenjunge on September 07, 2019, 09:57:07 AM
Dammit dammit dammit
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on September 07, 2019, 10:16:28 AM
People were joking about Brown being a Patriot for a few weeks now what the fuck kinda fixed shit is this.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: fazzle on September 07, 2019, 10:24:26 AM
I fucking hate football
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Krankor on September 07, 2019, 10:36:39 AM
I think its hilarious. The Raiders look like such puppets. Steelers wanted Brown not going to New England. Thats why they were trying to dump him to the Bikks wasteland at first. Brown said fuck that, dumped to Oakland. Brown pulls the strings of the idiot Raiders management, gets released, then before the afternoon is over he gets basically same money on a Super Bowl contender. Belichick is the puppet master of the NFL. It's hilarious. Brown's targets will increase a ton when Josh Gordon eventually goes off the grid in a cloud of smoke.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: fazzle on September 07, 2019, 10:55:05 AM
Don't forget he also added a new endorsement deal with the helmet drama too.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on September 07, 2019, 11:11:16 AM
Don't forget he also added a new endorsement deal with the helmet drama too.

Yeah, funny how everything worked out like clockwork.  I wonder how much was planned.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Flik on September 07, 2019, 03:16:44 PM
Probably everything other than the new endorsement was planned. The new endorsement probably was the cherry on the sundae.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 07, 2019, 04:05:19 PM
If it was planned, he refuses to be traded like when he told the Bills to go fuck themselves.

If it was planned, he doesn't burn his feet to oblivion.

If it was planned, he doesn't tearfully apologize to his teammates.

He also tossed a 50 million dollar contract down the drain. Not 30 million, that's only the guaranteed part. He would have met nearly all other incentives.

The guy is nuts.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 07, 2019, 05:14:08 PM
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He also liked this tweet I saw on r/NFL, which had no replies so he definitely went searching for it. Guy is sick.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on September 08, 2019, 01:53:15 AM
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/09/08/suspicions-grow-that-antonio-brown-to-the-patriots-didnt-happen-out-of-the-blue-on-saturday/
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Baby Shoes on September 08, 2019, 02:31:24 AM
(http://pilerats.com/assets/Uploads/_resampled/SetWidth940-tinfoil-hat.jpg)
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Harley Quinn on September 08, 2019, 03:31:41 AM
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/09/08/suspicions-grow-that-antonio-brown-to-the-patriots-didnt-happen-out-of-the-blue-on-saturday/

I don't buy the conspiracy theory stuff much because as the article says, "Both Adam Schefter of ESPN and Mike Giardi of NFL Network report that the Patriots did indeed try to trade for Brown in March, but the Steelers resisted their overtures. Chris Mortensen of ESPN reports that the Patriots actually offered a first-round pick for Brown."

Brown had to be aware that New England had some interest in him at the time. Also multiple teams reportedly had offers for AB after his release but if you're Antonio Brown, would you really turn down a chance to play with Belichick/Brady and arguably be a lock for a possible Super Bowl win by playing in say Dallas or Tampa Bay instead even if they offered more money?
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Brodypedia on September 08, 2019, 03:35:37 AM
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 08, 2019, 04:50:29 AM
He planned that shit:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27566034/ab-eyed-advice-expedite-raiders-exit

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Antonio Brown sought advice from professional social media consultants for ideas on how to accelerate his release from the Oakland Raiders, sources told ESPN.

At least one consultant couldn't tell whether Brown was serious or not, according to sources. Brown's tumultuous tenure with the Raiders officially ended Saturday, when the Pro Bowl receiver was released by Oakland and signed with the New England Patriots.

lmao he even worked the people that were helping him
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Thrasher on September 08, 2019, 11:00:48 AM
If Bill orchestrated this; I need the WWE to hire him to book all their long term storylines. The last month was full of ups and downs.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Amy pats fan on September 09, 2019, 02:12:46 AM
https://nypost.com/2019/09/08/tom-brady-to-antonio-brown-move-into-my-stunning-mansion/
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Flik on September 09, 2019, 03:25:20 AM
So wasn't as planned as I thought. Antonio went looking for social media consultants (https://nypost.com/2019/09/08/antonio-brown-took-absurd-measures-to-force-raiders-release/) in order to get what he wanted.

Meaning that not only did Antonio find someone for that, but probably every team was informed about the situation and talked to the guy Antonio was using. Which thus explains why he was not only highly sought after but also paid at his previous rate.

That really says something about the Raiders that Antonio wanted out that badly that he'd resort to social media tactics. Though hey, they worked. So what do I know?

Edit: Also, I just saw you posted that King, sorry for reposting.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 09, 2019, 05:34:46 AM
That really says something about the Raiders that Antonio wanted out that badly that he'd resort to social media tactics. Though hey, they worked. So what do I know?

You're going to have to explain what this means, because it doesn't say anything about the Raiders at all. It says a lot more about the guy so childish that they would be so happy in signing a huge contract, turn around a few months later and act like a moron.

I'm not sure you're aware, but the guy reported on his own time to work out with Derek Carr and toss balls this offseason. This idea that this was all planned from the start, it's pretty ludicrous as nobody held a gun to his head making him accept a trade or sign a new contract. It was all good until AB went back to doing the same things he did in Pittsburgh. It was planned from the point that someone wouldn't put up with a ball getting kicked at them, because guys like Antonio Brown don't like when normal people tell them what to do. Jeremy Shockey was apparently the same way.

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Brown’s run-in with Mayock on Wednesday apparently wasn’t the first time in his career he had an open confrontation that created an uncomfortable scene.

“He came out the day after he signed that extension [in 2012] and he was riding everybody – yapping at everyone,” the source said. “Saying things about how he was the franchise and telling people not to touch him during practice. Saying it to the defense and yelling at the defensive coaches.

“At one point it started getting really heated. It was really tense. You could feel it. So [defensive coordinator] Dick LeBeau kind of intervened and AB snapped on him and started cursing him out. He was screaming at Coach LeBeau.

“Guys were just looking at each other like, ‘Is this dude serious right now?’ It almost started a fight. [Safety] Ryan Clark and [cornerback] Ike Taylor and [safety] Troy Polamalu were hearing all this and so was the crowd at practice. You could tell the crowd could hear it by their reaction to it. That’s how bad it was.”

The source continued: “I saw Troy get seriously pissed off maybe twice, and this was one of those two times. Troy was so mad, he says to wide receivers coach Scottie Montgomery, ‘The receivers are live [targets] the rest of this period.’ Which was Troy’s way of saying, ‘We’re going after this guy.’ ”

https://sports.yahoo.com/steelers-enabled-antonio-brown-and-now-the-raiders-are-paying-for-it-051043795.html

I think you and others should read this. Former Steelers players blame it on the guy who can't even get his team ready for Sunday Night Football.

If it's the Raiders fault because they won't handle fools, then yeah, I guess it's their fault. Everyone was saying on Thursday and Friday that they should release him or Mayock should resign though. People can't have it both ways.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: KingPK on September 09, 2019, 06:37:08 AM
https://deadspin.com/why-good-organizations-know-how-to-handle-players-like-1837929843

I loathe most of Deadspin, but this is a tremendous (though very long) read about how teams deal with guys like AB and Terrell Owens.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Flik on September 09, 2019, 11:58:10 AM
*replying to whatever the hell it is I wrote*
Yeah, no, I fucked that up. You wanna know how badly? I have no fucking clue what I was writing about either. I'm literally trying to make sense of it and all I got for you and me is nothing. Like seriously, what the fucking hell?

...sure I'm dealing with being sick today, so I'm drugged up more than I normally am, but even then, this is like utterly wtf for me. Like honestly, no idea.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 10, 2019, 11:37:13 AM

Pats problem now motherfuckers

The mastermind to get out of Oakland is actually a criminal mastermind how do you like that shit.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on September 10, 2019, 11:44:44 AM
Okay.  This was all fun, but now things have gotten serious.  Time to quit joking if there is any substance at all to these claims.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Kotzenjunge on September 10, 2019, 12:01:22 PM
WHAT IS HAPPENING
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: KingPK on September 10, 2019, 01:30:24 PM
As if he wasn't on the thinnest of ice already.  He may not play a down.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 10, 2019, 02:05:14 PM
Okay, no more jokes. So this is on Linkedin about Brown's attorney...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEJbilfUcAAFuMH?format=jpg)


The emails in the complaint are also the clearest case of an admission to sexual assault that I've ever seen. Rape? I don't know about that, that's separate. But he did something very bad.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on September 10, 2019, 02:16:36 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/rdOi9yd.jpg)
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 10, 2019, 02:34:22 PM

"She is seeking in excess of $75,000."

If you're trying to extort someone the way that AB's attorney claims, you'd ask for a hell of a lot more.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on September 10, 2019, 02:49:25 PM
Mayock is a bigger player than thought he just ended this clowns career.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 10, 2019, 02:56:07 PM

Exempt list is coming, judging from the last two lines. So he's gonna be basically suspended until this is over. And this is a guy who can't keep his mouth shut and most definitely is gonna lose his mind over this.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Flik on September 10, 2019, 04:15:18 PM
As if this whole thing couldn't get any wilder. Wow.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on September 10, 2019, 04:46:55 PM
"The Patriots were caught by surprise"

Yeah, no shit.  I'm sure they would have been all over this signing if they knew it was about to break the next day.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Thrasher on September 10, 2019, 05:26:11 PM
Next week he'll admit to murdering someone or end up in a shootout with the police.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Krankor on September 10, 2019, 05:55:51 PM
What a scum. Hopefully this costs him his new contract.

See ya in the XFL AB!
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Harley Quinn on September 10, 2019, 10:44:59 PM
Awful stuff. AB clearly has to be done for the year if these are true, at the very least. Ideally he'd get some sort of jail time tbh.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Harley Quinn on September 10, 2019, 11:06:46 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/10/sports/football/antonio-brown-sexual-asssault-patriots.html

"Taylor ended her working relationship with Brown, the lawsuit says, but several months later, when he contacted her to apologize, she relented. She was, according to the lawsuit, “swayed by his assurance that he would cease any sexual advances.”

Then, the lawsuit says, on May 20, 2018, Brown forced her onto a bed, pushed her face into the mattress and “forcibly” raped her. She tried to resist him, screaming and repeatedly shouting “no” and “stop,” the lawsuit says, but Brown refused and penetrated her."

"The lawsuit says that Taylor told at least three people about the incidents: her mother, Brown’s chef, and a member of her church, who advised her to come forward."
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: AA484 on September 10, 2019, 11:37:10 PM
Awful stuff. AB clearly has to be done for the year if these are true, at the very least. Ideally he'd get some sort of jail time tbh.

It's a civil case so he won't get jail time unless a D.A. wants to run with it.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Harley Quinn on September 11, 2019, 02:05:26 AM
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on September 13, 2019, 02:32:04 AM
The NFL has chosen not to punish Antonio Brown and he's free to play on Sunday.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on September 13, 2019, 07:14:05 AM
Sweet
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Kotzenjunge on September 13, 2019, 08:58:24 AM
They let Tyreek Hill play, so why would this be any different? What a joke.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on September 16, 2019, 03:16:12 AM
Quote
Upon arrival, Brown passed gas numerous times in Prisk’s vicinity while Prisk was testing his body fat. A video, shot by a Brown acolyte, made the rounds on the internet. “It seemed just childish to me,” Prisk says now. “I’m a doctor and this man is farting in my face.”

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/09/16/antonio-brown-new-england-patriots-lawsuits-accusations-sexual-midconduct-assault

Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 16, 2019, 04:21:18 AM
The stuff in that article is so bad. If you read that and think the sexual assault and rape allegation isn't very credible, there's something wrong with you.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Kotzenjunge on September 16, 2019, 06:54:29 AM
This is the very definition of "I'm not happy to be right about this." It's fucking awful. This isn't playcalling or personnel choices which can be questioned like football often is, this is a criminal pattern that involves real victims.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on September 16, 2019, 09:35:29 AM
NFL won't do anything without a video.  I think that's pretty much certain now.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 19, 2019, 07:23:55 PM

What a thing to return home to. It is unquestionably Brown who sent them. This guy should be suspended for a long fucking time and is a fucking scumbag.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Krankor on September 19, 2019, 07:30:59 PM
This guy is acting like a mafia crime boss.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Harley Quinn on September 20, 2019, 04:24:24 AM
More detail on how AB has been identified.

Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 20, 2019, 06:37:10 AM
https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/nfl_confirms_text_messages_sent_to_second_accuser_were_from_antonio_brown/s1_12680_30050168

Headline speaks for itself. Again, this guy has no business playing NFL football. People talk about innocent until proven guilty, but he's proving himself guilty and for whatever reason the NFL isn't doing shit.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: strummer on September 20, 2019, 07:16:15 AM
Pats cut him
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on September 20, 2019, 07:18:39 AM
Had to happen but still shocked.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 20, 2019, 07:25:47 AM
I knew that was coming. The NFL was gonna suspend him for a long time anyway and still will.

They should have released him the moment the first story came out, so I'm not gonna give the Pats any extra credit, but I knew there was no way they were gonna be cool with this circus.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Kotzenjunge on September 20, 2019, 07:26:40 AM
"You know, we knew there were question marks and I was never comfortable with us signing him, glad we did the right thing!" -- Equivocating, horrible Patriots fans today
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 20, 2019, 07:27:55 AM
The talk about AB being a genius in getting out of Oakland this way was very short lived. This guy threw away tens of millions of dollars.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Harley Quinn on September 20, 2019, 07:37:23 AM
You could see it on Belichick's face at his press conference that he was getting beyond fed up with the situation as well. It was just a matter of time before AB got shipped out and the SI article was simply the nail in the coffin. TBH, I'm surprised he actually suited up and played a full game with New England before it happened.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: KingPK on September 20, 2019, 07:40:54 AM
"You know, we knew there were question marks and I was never comfortable with us signing him, glad we did the right thing!" -- Equivocating, horrible Patriots fans today

Gee, wonder why people on Facebook called you an asshole?  Can't think of a single reason, myself.

I was hoping it would work out, but obviously the guy thought otherwise.  Good riddance and good luck with the multiple lawsuits he's now gotta deal with.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 20, 2019, 07:44:05 AM
"You know, we knew there were question marks and I was never comfortable with us signing him, glad we did the right thing!" -- Equivocating, horrible Patriots fans today

Gee, wonder why people on Facebook called you an asshole?  Can't think of a single reason, myself.

(https://media.tenor.com/images/b7bdb95f97c2ba919034c4be34ad6289/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Kotzenjunge on September 20, 2019, 08:05:21 AM
"You know, we knew there were question marks and I was never comfortable with us signing him, glad we did the right thing!" -- Equivocating, horrible Patriots fans today

Gee, wonder why people on Facebook called you an asshole?  Can't think of a single reason, myself.

AB doing what AB did is probably the best thing to happen to the Raiders AND the Patriots.

Raiders looking good, definitely motivated by the whole shitty situation, and "Morally bankrupt" Patriots have a 2nd chance at 19-0.

I think Brown is most likely a garbage human being, but he's not alone by any means. This whole story would have never seen the light of day if he had just paid her off the 2 Million she was looking for:

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/antonio-brown-reportedly-rejected-2-million-settlement-offer-in-lawsuit-accuser-will-meet-with-nfl-on-monday/ (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/antonio-brown-reportedly-rejected-2-million-settlement-offer-in-lawsuit-accuser-will-meet-with-nfl-on-monday/)

I'm willing to bet this kind of stuff happens alot more than anyone knows publicly since the payoffs keep everyone quiet.

Yeah, I make this shit up. Fuck off. If you don't like truth then don't talk to adults. Go ahead, say this is all in my head or that I'm a hater. Those are the usual go-to's for fucking clowns.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: KingPK on September 20, 2019, 08:10:46 AM
So catching up on the story, the minute those intimidating texts as a member of the Patriots he was gone.  They would have tolerated his past antics because it was in the past; as soon as it was clear he wasn't changing that was it.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on September 20, 2019, 08:11:11 AM
"You know, we knew there were question marks and I was never comfortable with us signing him, glad we did the right thing!" -- Equivocating, horrible Patriots fans today

Gee, wonder why people on Facebook called you an asshole?  Can't think of a single reason, myself.

AB doing what AB did is probably the best thing to happen to the Raiders AND the Patriots.

Raiders looking good, definitely motivated by the whole shitty situation, and "Morally bankrupt" Patriots have a 2nd chance at 19-0.

I think Brown is most likely a garbage human being, but he's not alone by any means. This whole story would have never seen the light of day if he had just paid her off the 2 Million she was looking for:

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/antonio-brown-reportedly-rejected-2-million-settlement-offer-in-lawsuit-accuser-will-meet-with-nfl-on-monday/ (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/antonio-brown-reportedly-rejected-2-million-settlement-offer-in-lawsuit-accuser-will-meet-with-nfl-on-monday/)

I'm willing to bet this kind of stuff happens alot more than anyone knows publicly since the payoffs keep everyone quiet.

Yeah, I make this shit up. Fuck off. If you don't like truth then don't talk to adults. Go ahead, say this is all in my head or that I'm a hater. Those are the usual go-to's for fucking clowns.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/d30qp4vlWbStJJZu/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: KingPK on September 20, 2019, 08:18:18 AM
https://youtu.be/3Xa0L_Q567E

But I think we all can agree AB is on an XFL roster by the end of the year, right?
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 20, 2019, 08:19:33 AM
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Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on September 20, 2019, 08:25:40 AM
The talk about AB being a genius in getting out of Oakland this way was very short lived. This guy threw away tens of millions of dollars.

I was mostly just kidding because of the Pats reputation.  He should never play again.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Baby Shoes on September 20, 2019, 10:25:26 AM
https://youtu.be/3Xa0L_Q567E

But I think we all can agree AB is on an XFL roster by the end of the year, right?

Depends on what happens legally.  No convicts allowed.  RIP JOHNNY FOOTBALL
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: cobainwasmurdered on September 20, 2019, 10:47:43 AM
So catching up on the story, the minute those intimidating texts as a member of the Patriots he was gone.  They would have tolerated his past antics because it was in the past; as soon as it was clear he wasn't changing that was it.

"past antics"

HE SEXUALLY ASSUALTED SOMEONE you colossal fuckhead.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Krankor on September 20, 2019, 10:52:25 AM
Shenanigans
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Krankor on September 20, 2019, 10:59:05 AM
This has been one of the most bizarre implosions of a pro-athlete I have ever seen. The fact the dude got a second chance and fucked it up in under 2 weeks is incredible. Dude is mentally ill. Hopefully his victims take all his money away from him. Dude trying to get his hired goons to investigate and threaten her and her children is heinous as fuck. I doubt he even gets a shot at XFL.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Brooklyn Zoo on September 20, 2019, 11:18:26 AM
So catching up on the story, the minute those intimidating texts as a member of the Patriots he was gone.  They would have tolerated his past antics because it was in the past; as soon as it was clear he wasn't changing that was it.

"past antics"

HE SEXUALLY ASSUALTED SOMEONE you colossal fuckhead.

He was changing tho. Starting with signing with the Pats
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Amy pats fan on September 21, 2019, 02:46:31 AM
Did he knowingly include her in that group text?  WTF
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Big Beard Booty Daddy on September 22, 2019, 01:31:43 AM
He's going crazy on Twitter. He quit the NFL and is throwing everyone, from Rothlisberger, to Kraft, to Shannon Sharpe under the bus. He's blaming everyone except himself for being cut again. Because it was the owners that raped women and sent threatening texts to them. Fuck this dude.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: THE TUGSTER on September 22, 2019, 01:51:19 AM
Antonio Brown saying he "quit" the NFL is like saying Chris Benoit quit the WWE
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on September 23, 2019, 05:45:32 AM

Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Saints_Fan_H on September 23, 2019, 02:10:05 PM
I was really taken aback by Stephen A. Smith's tone on First Take, about the AB situation. It was a calm, quiet anger. He had zero inflection for the first half, and was just to the point and deadpan, none of his trademark animation.

The kind of muted anger that scares you more than someone yelling at you. His voice did escalate towards the later end, but that was when the other commentators offered thoughts, but for his monologue, I've never seen like that.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Amy pats fan on September 24, 2019, 02:57:55 AM
He re-enrolled at Central Michigan.  Which is kinda cool I guess.  Better hobby than sexual assault and getting tackled for a living
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on September 24, 2019, 08:34:18 AM
hide the coeds
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 27, 2019, 04:31:04 AM

lol
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Harley Quinn on September 27, 2019, 05:34:53 AM
Pretty gross misrepresentation in that article headline to be honest. It's merely a source saying NE will likely have to pay AB's signing bonus (and based on what Kraft/Pats are fighting, they will probably end up paying Brown).

"Where it concerns Brown’s $9 million signing bonus, the fight appears to be heading to an argument of one clause in the CBA. Specifically, Article 4 and section 9, which lays the foundation of the forfeitable breach of money within a contract. It states:

(a) Forfeitable Breach. Any player who (i) willfully fails to report, practice or play with the result that the player’s ability to fully participate and contribute to the team is substantially undermined (for example, without limitation, holding out or leaving the squad absent a showing of extreme personal hardship); or (ii) is unavailable to the team due to conduct by him that results in his incarceration; or (iii) is unavailable to the team due to a nonfootball injury that resulted from a material breach of Paragraph 3 of his NFL Player Contract; or (iv) voluntarily retires ...

Brown does not fit into any of those qualifications for termination of his $9 million signing bonus, and therefore will (very likely) end up receiving that money from Kraft."
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Saints_Fan_H on September 28, 2019, 08:37:40 AM
Mr. Brown does not strike me as a man that knows how to budget so it isn't like he's going to be set for life if he does get that pay out. And the Patriot hierarchy gave the man a contract with guarantees knowing full well the drama he was bringing to the table. As much as I'm not on board with AB's antics, the Patriots should just pay the man and move on.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Thrasher on September 29, 2019, 12:00:48 PM
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Gert on September 29, 2019, 01:40:25 PM
Feel like he has no chance to win any of his Raiders grievances and appeals. Maybe the Pats cut him too early, but it will be interesting to see how it plays out.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 29, 2019, 02:07:41 PM
He's gonna get the signing bonus unless the league suspends him for conduct detrimental or some such. Those are paid on signing and the Pats cut him.
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Amy pats fan on September 29, 2019, 04:34:42 PM
Yeah, they should have to pay the bonus.  Which is why I scratched my head at them giving him such a big one in the first place

FWIW it looked like he was on his way to being a good soldier, nobody saw these allegations coming literally days after he signs
Title: Re: Antonio Brown Released by Oakland
Post by: Brodypedia on October 09, 2019, 04:17:15 AM
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/10/09/antonio-brown-patriots-have-to-pay-me-they-may-as-well-play-me/

He wants back in Pats land.