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Title: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on January 16, 2020, 02:55:41 AM
i think conor will win, but Cowboy at +280 is pretty tasty. Conor has been training but really, he hasn't won an MMA fight in 3 years. He got knocked down by Khabib the last time out, he can talk about how he didn't take him seriously in the standup but his defence is still lacking. I know Cowboy is kinda washed but I still think a guy that hasn't won in three years (last beating a guy Cowboy beat too) is still not worth that kind of respect on the books.

I know Conor can easily KO him in a couple of minutes, but I also think it's more likely than 3:1 that Cowboy survives an onslaught and carves him up with elbows and knees before high kicking him into oblivion.

Conor has never beaten a guy with the dynamic striking of someone like Cowboy. I think Conor's hands are that much better that he will probably win, but it wouldn't surprise me at all to see someone as tough as Cowboy weather an early storm and proceed to put on a striking clinic on a tired Conor. My only issue is that the Gaethje fight was only 4 months ago.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on January 18, 2020, 03:36:41 PM
Complete destruction.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Brooklyn Zoo on January 18, 2020, 03:38:55 PM
Pointless fight
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Youth N Asia on January 19, 2020, 12:46:17 AM
Caught it on YouTube last night. Wasn’t paying that price for a predictable one right card. Also wasn’t getting out to watch it elsewhere with the roads being trash in my area. I thought it would go a round. Didn’t think it’d be under a minute with Donald not getting a single shot in.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Lord of The Curry on January 20, 2020, 05:28:49 AM
Usman is apparently injured so they'll do Conor vs Masvidal for an interim WW belt.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 08, 2020, 12:19:40 PM
Reyes is worth a bet at +400 imo. He has a path to victory and isn’t the kind of guy who will wilt in the face of adversity. That is great value.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on February 08, 2020, 03:12:42 PM
Valentina is the pinnacle of WMMA. Nobody is coming close.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on February 08, 2020, 04:11:45 PM
49-46 lol
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Brooklyn Zoo on February 08, 2020, 04:11:58 PM
Wack. Garbage PPV
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Youth N Asia on February 08, 2020, 04:17:41 PM
It’s already coming out that the judge that scored 4-1 Jones was the same judge the commentary team was calling out for not even watching a fight earlier.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Brooklyn Zoo on February 08, 2020, 04:18:27 PM
And nothing will happen. Joke
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Youth N Asia on February 08, 2020, 04:20:50 PM
What sucks for Reyes is that it seems like the only time to get Jon is in the first fight. After he’s downloaded his opponent the first time it gets easier for him.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on February 08, 2020, 04:49:16 PM
I was cool with either guy winning 48-47.

What sucks for Reyes is that it seems like the only time to get Jon is in the first fight. After he’s downloaded his opponent the first time it gets easier for him.

I strongly disagree. There are a few distinctions that need to be pointed out.

1. Jones was getting dominated by Cormier before the head kick.

2. Gus is a shot fighter who very well could be a USADA guy in his own right. The difference in his performance levels is rather alarming. Maybe Rumble just busted his brain in.

Now in the case of Reyes, he's still an improving fighter who had a large jump up in competition. The best 205 pounders that he fought were OSP and Volkan. Cannonier is clearly not a 205 pounder and Weidman was a corpse. There's obviously no guarantee that a rematch would go well for Reyes, but this was also his first five round fight. There's a lot to be learned from something like that. As I was telling the guys in the chat, while Volkan was able to take Reyes down, Reyes was still in the stage of his career where there could be drastic improvements in his fighting ability. He showed that when defending takedowns tonight. He's still in that stage where he can make the improvement needed to more definitively beat Jones. A good example is Conor's ability to defend takedowns against Mendes compared to right now. The Conor who fought Mendes would never have been able to stay off the ground for a single second against Khabib. He stayed off the mat for a round against Khabib. I don't think it's like if Thiago was to get a rematch against Jones coming off a completely blown knee at 36 years old.

Also, it needs to be said that Jones is a declining fighter. There is a rather consistent downward trend in the manner in which he is obtaining these results.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: AA484 on February 08, 2020, 05:07:24 PM
I thought it was close but Jones took it, 3-2.  Even if Solis graded it for Reyes, Jones still wins.  You can't retreat for the last two rounds of a title fight and expect to win.  Like 909 said, Reyes has the tools in place to potentially beat Jones when or if they have a rematch.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Joyful & Soyful on February 09, 2020, 01:11:33 AM
I could see it going 1, 2, 3 for Dom or 3, 4, 5 for Jones. I went with the former, but giving four rounds to Jones like that one judge did is absurd. I guess he awarded Round 1 to Jones which is insane.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Gert on February 09, 2020, 12:05:41 PM
I had Jones 48-47, but it was very interesting to see Jones's body language early on when he was clearly uncomfortable. My buddy bet $500 to win $100, so as soon as I saw that I was getting worried for him.

I think Reyes reach will always bother Jones, but until we see a rematch I'm not sure he can beat him. That said I am notoriously wrong on when champions lose and to whom.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Mr. S£im Citrus on February 09, 2020, 12:09:55 PM
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=28666365

Personal opinions about who won the fight aside, is it ever a good sign when the guy who runs the sport is questioning the quality of the judging?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 09, 2020, 11:22:27 PM
I had Reyes winning 1, 2 and 3 but I'll go back and rewatch. I was also glad that Valentina put in work like she did, she had a moving target in front of her and could have easily been content to potshot her for twenty five minutes and instead she put her away.

Also it needs to be said that the Jon Jones who showed up on Saturday night gets put away inside of two rounds by Stylebender. Izzy is a smart fighter too and knows that Jon comes on strong late and I think he'd put it on him early.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: HSJ on February 15, 2020, 05:07:48 AM
I’m looking at the card tonight and there isn’t one fight that makes me go, I NEED to sit down and watch this.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Youth N Asia on February 15, 2020, 04:14:03 PM
Once Diego found out he could get out of the fight with a DQ win he was suddenly unable to compete. Lost face but cashed a check.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on February 15, 2020, 05:04:40 PM
He shouldn't be given a license to fight anymore, the same thing that should have happened to BJ and countless other guys who have no business standing in there taking more brain damage. The connection between his brain and his arms doesn't work anymore, so this was target practice. When he was running forward not throwing anything I was just hoping he wouldn't get knocked dead.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: AA484 on February 15, 2020, 10:16:23 PM
This guy wasn't mentally all there 15 years ago on TUF, I can only imagine his brain now.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 21, 2020, 12:46:30 AM
Paul Felder vs Dan Hooker goes down tomorrow. Just saying.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Mr. S£im Citrus on February 22, 2020, 07:13:21 AM
Damn! Zombie Girl hit Dobson with that Tiger uppercut!
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 24, 2020, 06:58:37 AM
Yeah that kind of a KO is rare in womens' mma. Nasty stuff.

Felder vs Hooker was everything I wanted it to be. Easy pick for FOTY so far.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Youth N Asia on February 26, 2020, 03:33:05 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/tito-ortiz-alberto-el-patron-combate-americas-texas-010401491.html

Tito’s win over Alberto has been changed to a no decision. No reason given yet.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Youth N Asia on February 28, 2020, 02:14:19 AM
Figueiredo missed weight. Joe will still fight for the title, he won’t.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 28, 2020, 02:23:07 AM
the fighter who misses weight normally has an advantage, which is why Romero/Luke was such a clusterfuck.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Youth N Asia on February 28, 2020, 02:39:54 AM
If they can’t crown a champion with this fight I could see the division being killed off entirely.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 28, 2020, 03:48:18 AM
the odds are close to even too, so this could be a difference-maker.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 28, 2020, 04:04:02 AM
I feel horrible for Joe. This was already a hard fight and now he has the added pressure of knowing that him losing could possibly spell the end of the division.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Mr. S£im Citrus on February 29, 2020, 01:34:57 PM
8 finishes in 12 fights seems like a lot.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 29, 2020, 01:45:56 PM
That Brendan Allen kid is the real deal.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Youth N Asia on February 29, 2020, 02:50:46 PM
Well. Flyweight is dead now. Great fight though. That head collision fucked Joe up pretty good.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 02, 2020, 01:01:58 AM
Apparently Deveison's management team has said that they'll rematch Joe in June at UFC 250 in Brazil and I really hope the UFC makes that fight happen. Joe was clearly dazed from the headbutt and was checking the cut when he got cracked. If the fight goes ahead the smart thing to do would be to have Alejandra Pantoja cutting weight as an atlernate in case Figgy fucks up again and blows weight that way they can still have a Brazilian in a title fight.

I also greatly enjoyed Ion Cutelaba doing an impression of somebody on the verge of being KO'd then immediately losing his shit when the ref stepped in. That was a bad stoppage but a justified bad stoppage.

Edit: Apparently the show that Devison is open to rematching on is UFC 252 in July.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 07, 2020, 10:59:04 AM
the main card tonight is pretty good. I think Izzy will stop old man Romero and I'll be sad but I am a mark so I still believe Yoel can achieve it. Prime Yoel would be a nightmare matchup, so this one might still be able to pull it off.

Double J has a legit shot too. Those are two legit high-level fights, worth watching. Not a lot of hype though, probably because most people think Yoel is too old to do it.

I actually think a couple of the prelims are better than the other fights on the main card. O Malley's and Winn's fights should be good.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Mr. S£im Citrus on March 07, 2020, 03:40:04 PM
That was a damned good fight.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Brodypedia on March 07, 2020, 03:40:15 PM
I got goosebumps watching those gals THROW down for 25 mins. Epic!
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 07, 2020, 03:41:25 PM
oh my god
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Youth N Asia on March 07, 2020, 04:33:32 PM
Not watching. But was the main event as bad as I’m reading it to be?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 07, 2020, 04:35:52 PM
it was epic imo

lots of post-fight shenanigans to set up the three way dance at No Way Out. ROMERO GOT ROBBED
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 07, 2020, 05:34:54 PM
I'm not complaining, but I thought Yoel and Joanna both won. That being said I have no problem with either decision.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Brodypedia on March 07, 2020, 05:52:46 PM
 

Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 10, 2020, 01:59:07 AM
https://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/28873544/ufc-bellator-moving-ahead-events-amid-coronavirus-outbreak

welp
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 10, 2020, 02:22:14 AM
At this point a massive outbreak at an mma event seems like the universe sorting itself out more then anything.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 11, 2020, 05:28:16 AM

Lirl this guy is so corny
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Youth N Asia on March 11, 2020, 06:08:02 AM

Lirl this guy is so corny

He’s on the same level as Colby now where I won’t click anything involving audio with him. I just don’t have the patience for a fake character with this stuff.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 11, 2020, 06:39:24 AM

So that is getting cancelled or will be in an empty arena.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 11, 2020, 06:48:43 AM
Can't wait for Tony vs Khabib to happen where they film DWCS in front of an empty audience.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 12, 2020, 01:15:53 AM
Brazil card this weekend (which is dope) will be done in an empty arena. Ceremonial weigh-ins and open workouts are cancelled.

*JokerHereWeGo.gif*
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 12, 2020, 05:44:26 AM
This isn't official but UFC 249 is going to be cancelled. Tony/Khabib take five gets fucked by COVID-19. Unreal.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 14, 2020, 07:27:36 AM

The pipe dream that they would be allowed to have shows after this one even though it's common sense that they wouldn't is now a dead pipe dream.

edit:


wompwomp
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 14, 2020, 03:35:24 PM
lots of differing accounts

Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 16, 2020, 02:54:51 PM
?s=09

lmao
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 17, 2020, 02:36:36 AM
My guess is they'll try and hold it in one of the Caribbean nations that has no cases reported so far and will throw a fuckton of cash at them to make it happen.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 18, 2020, 07:22:22 AM
Per Meltzer the UFC was in the midst of finalizing weekly shows from a Native reservation in Oklahoma but when Dana saw his boy Donny talking about groups of 10 or more being a no-go they cancelled it.

Man, what might have been.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: HSJ on March 20, 2020, 07:09:48 AM
No fucking joke, Khabib vs. Ferguson is the most cursed fight in the history of any sport ever.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 23, 2020, 11:54:50 PM
Dana's saying that the event is a go and a location has been set but won't reveal details. I really hope it's on a fucking oil tanker out in international waters.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 25, 2020, 06:57:14 AM

Lmao
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 25, 2020, 07:37:58 AM
Dana is doubling down now and saying that UFC 249 won't have it's original lineup but rather it'll be a hybrid card featuring fights from the cancelled London, Portland and Ohio shows on it. Mentions Ngannou/Bigi Boy as a fight that's being looked at.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 29, 2020, 11:52:00 PM
Khabib has confirmed he's back in Russia under lockdown, as he understands it the show is still going to go ahead without him and they're trying to book somebody for Tony.

The dream is dead.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2020
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 05, 2020, 11:55:40 PM
Dana got fooled by a fake Helwani twitter account and it lead to him saying that he's announcing the full card today. Speculation is that Gaethje vs Tony is the main event.

Edit: Tony vs Gaethje for the interim LW belt is the main event for UFC 249 next weekend, location has yet to be revealed. Fucking unreal.