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Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on November 02, 2011, 01:26:55 AM
Smackdown:
*Randy Orton defeated Cody Rhodes in an awesome Street Fight following a hanging DDT on the outside off the barricade to the floor and then an RKO inside the ring. This was a great brawl through the crowd with Rhodes' mask being used as a weapon. Orton bagged Rhodes after.

*Ted DiBiase defeated Tyson Kidd.

*World champion Mark Henry was interviewed backstage. He began bullying Daniel Bryan, mocking his Money In The Bank briefcase, saying Bryan could never beat him. He challenged Bryan to wrestle him tonight and Bryan accepted.

*Alicia Fox pinned Natalya.

*Big Show comes out and says he's going to knock out Mark Henry once for every week of Dmackdown where their business goes unfinished. Christian comes out and says Show had his chance and failed. He insults the South (Show is originally from Aiken, SC). Show acts like he was going to KO Christian, then promises he won't. Instead he chokeslams him and leaves him laying.

*Sheamus comes out for his scheduled match against Christian but he's out from the chokeslam. Wade Barrett comes out and offers to replace him and they ring the bell.

*Barrett pinned Sheamus with a roll up after Christian distracted him. Christian was outside from the chokeslam the entire bout. Sheamus tries to get Barrett after the bout but Christian spears him,

*After a break, we see Sheamus brawling backstage with Christian and Barrett until they are all separated by security.

*Backstage, Big Show tells Daniel Bryan to take special care of his briefcase, because Show will be in his corner tonight against Mark Henry.

*Sin Cara vs. the debuting Epico from WWE developmental. Hunico interferes and they double team Cara. They nailed a double team move but messed it up and did it again. That'll be edited.

*World champion Mark Henry defeated Daniel Bryan by DQ when Big Show interfered and knocked out Henry. Bryan acts like he might cash in but is nailed by Henry and hit with the World's Strongest Slam. Henry nailed Show with the briefcase. No cashing in.

Afterward, Teddy Long announced Show vs. Henry for Survivor Series and we end with a staredown.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Nymyzys on November 02, 2011, 01:42:26 AM
I see they're testing the waters on DB vs Henry. Im interested to see how it comes across on TV.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Venkman on November 02, 2011, 01:59:01 AM
Some other spoilers I read last night said it was Sin Cara vs. Primo. Odd.

Until Evan's suspension, I figured they could do something like Orton/Sheamus/Air Boom/Ryder vs. Cody/Christian/Barrett/Ziggler/Swagger at Series.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on November 02, 2011, 01:59:38 AM
You get your spoilers from a racist website. What surprise.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: DMann1979 on November 04, 2011, 11:43:39 AM
Did I miss something?  When did Ted DiBiase become a smiling babyface?
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Ed on November 04, 2011, 11:47:43 AM
When Cody turned on him.

Not sure how his entrance music works with his face turn, though.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: #sorrynotsorry on November 04, 2011, 11:49:20 AM
It's funny to see that Orton has become a mini Triple H. Ted and Cody haven't been the same since Orton's face turn.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Boomer Kamala on November 04, 2011, 11:52:15 AM
I don't know. It seemed Cody was really picking up some steam and on his way to becoming a main event level guy when he went over Rey at WrestleMania. It didn't really pan out and he's kind of been in a mid-card rut since but still!
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: #sorrynotsorry on November 04, 2011, 11:59:32 AM
Did I just hear a laugh track after Big Show's joke?
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Baby Shoes on November 04, 2011, 03:10:02 PM
I don't know. It seemed Cody was really picking up some steam and on his way to becoming a main event level guy when he went over Rey at WrestleMania. It didn't really pan out and he's kind of been in a mid-card rut since but still!

Believe it or not Cody is supposedly in the best standing he's ever been backstage according to recent reports.  Vince complained he overacted in the Dashing days but recent reports say that Vince loves Cody's current character.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on November 04, 2011, 04:03:07 PM
But this character has killed all the heat he used to have.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Baby Shoes on November 04, 2011, 04:24:13 PM
Yep, it doesn't make sense but knowing the people behind it, it strangely does.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Boomer Kamala on November 04, 2011, 04:29:08 PM
A heatless Cody Rhodes will win the World title at the June PPV next year and then be dominant heel champion for eight months. I feel like that's the way WWE works every now and then.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: fazzle on November 04, 2011, 04:45:50 PM
A heatless Cody Rhodes will win the World title at the June PPV next year and then be dominant heel champion for three weeks until Orton wins it back. I feel like that's the way WWE works every now and then.


Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Boomer Kamala on November 04, 2011, 05:09:30 PM
A heatless Cody Rhodes will win the World title at the June PPV next year and then be dominant heel champion for three weeks until Orton wins it back. I feel like that's the way WWE works all the time.



Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Monsoon Classic on November 04, 2011, 11:48:52 PM
I weep every time I read that report that Vince didn't like Dashing Cody Rhodes's overacting. I figured the overacting was done specifically for Vince.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Ed on November 05, 2011, 12:02:07 AM
But this character has killed all the heat he used to have.

He used to have heat?

Now, I like Cody, but come on, dude's never been a heat magnet.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on November 05, 2011, 03:13:29 AM
I've never really liked it when a psychotic, dangerous heel turns face and becomes kinda funny (Austin being the exception) but Orton laughing and showing off the cracked mask and making goofy faces and doing mid-air splits and crazy shit is just so great for some reason.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Ed on November 05, 2011, 04:41:30 AM
Yes! Orton's hammy acting since turning face has been terrific. I love it.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Venkman on November 05, 2011, 04:50:21 AM
Smilin' Ted DiBiase! The "DiBiase Posse" in the house!
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: JRE on November 05, 2011, 06:30:15 AM
Just finished watching this. Didn't hear Cole say "nerd" once during the Daniel Bryan match. Progress! 
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on November 05, 2011, 06:42:50 AM
Well it happened before the match started.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: JRE on November 05, 2011, 08:41:28 AM
Well it happened before the match started.

I missed that.  I'll still take it. 
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Post by: Nymyzys on November 05, 2011, 08:49:45 AM
I too am enjoying Randy Orton's current lunatic attitude. Several months ago when facing Kane in a match, his leg fell through a hole in the announce table causing it to flip over. Orton pulled his leg from the hole, stuck his tongue out, and did a little jig. Cracked me up.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on November 05, 2011, 04:16:43 PM
I too am enjoying Randy Orton's current lunatic attitude. Several months ago when facing Kane in a match, his leg fell through a hole in the announce table causing it to flip over. Orton pulled his leg from the hole, stuck his tongue out, and did a little jig. Cracked me up.

This was great. I loved how he laughed after he finally hit the elevated DDT off the guardrail.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: A Happy Medium on November 05, 2011, 06:02:04 PM
I just finished the end of the show.  I would have rather Bryan wakes up and thinks he can take him, and then Big Show convinces him not to and then Henry beats them down anyhow.  Still, I'm starting to think that they could go with Bryan and Henry at some point.  It looks really good.  Still, Bryan needs a winning streak to go along with his beard.  Maybe Cole tells him to get rid of his beard, and Bryan claims that he'll shave it when he loses next.  We then have the "Winter of Submission".
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Mildly Threatening Damon on November 05, 2011, 08:51:47 PM
If  Daniel Bryan used a new submission move for the 12 Days of Christmas, I'd have no problems with him getting the title off of Mark Henry.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Guns N' BOses on November 07, 2011, 11:17:06 AM
JOSH: Sheamus is so big...and so THICK!

*Awkward silence*
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Venkman on November 08, 2011, 12:05:03 PM
Randy Orton cuts a promo to start the show about the Survivor Series. Wade Barrett, the opposing team captain, comes out to interrupt him. Christian comes out to help Barrett attack Orton, but Sheamus makes the save. Teddy Long books Sheamus vs. Christian for right now, and Orton vs. Barrett for the main event.

1. Sheamus beat Christian with the Celtic Cross. Another good match between the two. One sweet spot was when Christian jumped out of the ring, got caught by Sheamus, who rammed him into the barricade.

Daniel Bryan was talking backstage with A.J. and Kaitlyn about he almost cashed MiTB last week. Mark Henry turned up and said how dare Bryan almost cash it in. He said Bryan had guts but he will spill them later tonight in their match.

A promo package for Ezekiel Jackson was shown. A terrible Teddy Long and Aksana backstage segment occurred. The less said the better. Alicia Fox was involved.

2. Ted DiBiase beat Jinder Mahal. Jinder didn't even get an entrance. Ted won quickly. Squash match.

3. Mark Henry beat Daniel Bryan. Henry won with the World's Strongest Slam. After the match, Henry got the chair meaning to break his leg, but Bryan got the chair and hit Henry with it. Henry no sold and gave him the World's Strongest Slam several times. He put him in the corner with the chair on his leg, but Big Show made the save.

Henry kept Show out of the ring, and hit Bryan on the back with the chair. Show stood on the apron and the two had a stare off until henry got out of the ring. Show got in, tossed the world championship back to Henry, then got on the mic to trash him.

4. Big Show defeated three enhancement wrestlers. Henry then trashed him from the ramp. Henry botched his promo afterwards. He did say he has impressed everyone and he will beat Show at Survivor Series and leave him with a lasting impression.

5. Alicia Fox beat Tamina. Natalya was on commentary.

There was a bit with Sheamus and Matt Striker talking about Sheamus's temper. Then Mexican America, I mean Hunico, Epico and Primo made their way to the ring. The Usos came out with their haka entrance.

6. Hunico and Epico beat The Usos. After the match, the Mexicans triple beat on The Usos, including a sweet triple finisher. Hunico got the mic and spoke in Spanish and got the "What" treatment.

7. Wade Barrett defeated Randy Orton. Orton went for the RKO and Barrett avoided it. Barrett won with a thumb to the eye and a roll up. Good match.


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Too bad Wade didn't think to use a thumb to the eye and roll-up at last year's Survivor Series.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Baby Shoes on November 08, 2011, 12:11:16 PM
I want the thumb to eye to be his new finisher.

Also, I like Big Zeke but if they are starting to run hype promos for more than week on him, he has to be getting close to the record.  This would be like the fifth time in two-three years they'd be doing it and the times they haven't, he's been injured.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: The ghost of bps21 on November 08, 2011, 01:47:49 PM
What?  Heat on a heel leading into a ppv match?  Orton is officially not on Cena's level anymore.  I suspected it when he did the clean jobs to Henry...but now I KNOW.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on November 09, 2011, 09:38:55 AM
WWE Smackdown Liverpool - Mark Henry Spinaroonie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcT_igtTvow#ws)
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on November 09, 2011, 11:18:50 AM
Booker T. and Randy Orton should become a permanent on-screen duo.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: BorneAgain on November 09, 2011, 11:37:58 AM
Orton finally cashes in his favor to get Booker to teach him the spinneroonie.
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Post by: Ed on November 11, 2011, 07:42:11 AM
...Primo's Puerto Rican.

And Primo, Hunico and Epico look like they've brought back Los Boriquas. The Gang Warz ARE coming back!
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Post by: HSJ on November 11, 2011, 12:59:58 PM
Wade just beat Orton with a punch.
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Post by: RedJed on November 11, 2011, 01:16:15 PM
Just watching this now and Christian/Sheamus was a hell of a match, felt like the blowoff.

This new Twitter follwers/DiBiase Posse gimmick for DiBiase is stupid, he's never going to get a break.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on November 11, 2011, 03:35:10 PM
Booker T with his best moment tonight comparing the Mexicans to Gremlins.
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Post by: Mildly Threatening Damon on November 11, 2011, 11:31:01 PM
Michael McGillicutty got a new theme song on Superstars this week.  It's completely unfitting screamo type music.  He also still wears that stupid baseball hat, like that's supposed to be some sort of cool entrance attire.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on November 12, 2011, 01:00:42 AM
Booker T with his best moment tonight comparing the Mexicans to Gremlins.

awwww shucky duck quack quack
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Post by: Marie I on November 12, 2011, 06:16:18 AM
Good episode. I'm glad they've paired the Colon's together. Doin Puerto Rican wrestling proud. I guess this takes Tito out of the Ascension though. This stable won't go anywhere, but I'm having fun with it.

Sheamus' fallaway slam to the barricade was awesome. That whole match just felt like a ppv bout. I know Christian got injured a day or two after that, but I hope he's okay.

Looked like Dibiase hit a KENTA spot and a Marufugi spot back to back. Pretty neat.

I'm loving all of this Danielson/Henry stuff. The Lebell Lock reversal was such a cool spot.

Main event had a little too many rest holds, but Barrett getting the win was a nice surprise.

And yeah, agreed about McGillicutty's baseball cap. Looks so lame. I had to skip Riley vs McGillicutty. Those guys are awful. Kinda just expecting those two to get released soon.
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Post by: #sorrynotsorry on November 12, 2011, 06:20:53 AM
I have to say that smilin' babyface Ted Dibiase is pretty over with the crowd. Good gimmick for him.

I rarely watch Smackdown these days, but when I do I'm always pleasantly surprised. Good little wrasslin show.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on November 12, 2011, 06:35:51 AM
I have to say that smilin' babyface Ted Dibiase is pretty over with the crowd. Good gimmick for him.
                                                                                                   
Yeah he's always excelled at being a bland athletic babyface. He would of been perfect during the late 80s early 90s WWF.
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Post by: Nymyzys on November 12, 2011, 08:33:37 AM
Did they ever go anywhere with Dibiase's "trust fund" gimmick?
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Post by: JRE on November 12, 2011, 08:38:52 AM
They put him with Mayrse and it was a bad fit. Nexus taking over on Raw also hurt him. Now they give a "rich lifestyle led to a downturn in his success but he's changed now" story.
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Post by: A Happy Medium on November 12, 2011, 08:42:09 AM
Ted is perfect to be bland babyface that doesn't talk much, but gets by on hard work.  It would be funny to see him when the U.S. or I.C. title, and then have Maryse come back to him.  Of course, he would just tell her to wait a minute as he would go into the other room for a moment.  Maryse would then wait the rest of the show for him to come back.  You would just see her doing silly things, like throwing pencils into the ceiling tiles.
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Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on November 12, 2011, 08:47:42 AM
They...they released Maryse :(
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Post by: A Happy Medium on November 12, 2011, 09:00:42 AM
Damn.  I had no clue.
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Post by: #sorrynotsorry on November 12, 2011, 09:05:03 AM
Cody vs. Ted is gonna be a money feud one day.
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Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on November 16, 2011, 01:57:04 AM
I've found spoilers. The first set was too short, not detailed enough, and wrong. The other set is way too long, full of smarky conjecture, and on Bleacher Report.
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Post by: Big Beard Booty Daddy on November 16, 2011, 02:06:15 AM
From Lords of Pain:

Quote
Dark Match:

* Justin Gabriel defeated a local wrestler.

NXT, Airing Tomorrow:

* Percy Watson beat Derrick Bateman.

* JTG defeated Yoshi Tatsu.

* Titus O'Neil beat Tyler Reks. Darren Young was in Reks' corner while Percy was with Titus. They were sent to the back during the match but Young came back out after the match and beat Titus down.

Superstars, Airing Thursday:

* Tyson Kidd beat Trent Baretta

SmackDown, Airing Friday:

* The show opens with Mark Henry beating Daniel Bryan up backstage. He brings Bryan out to the ring and hit him with more including a World's Strongest Slam. Officials pulled Bryan out of the ring and Henry talked about beating Big Show at Survivor Series.

* Vickie Guerrero came out to announce that Dolph Ziggler will defend against Zack Ryder at Survivor Series and be int he 5-on-5 match. Dolph defeated Sin Cara next with help from Jack Swagger.

* Mason Ryan came out to help Cara. Mason vs. Swagger is next and Mason wins.

* Backstage segment with Zack Ryder, Big Show and Justin Gabriel.

* Ted DiBiase and Hornswoggle are playing WWE '12 backstage. Teddy Long and Aksana come in and there's not much at all to this segment.

* Christian came out wearing a neckbrace, a boot on his foot and using a crutch. Christian will be there to support Team Barrett at Survivor Series. Christian just wants "one more match."

* AJ Lee and Big Show are checking on Daniel Bryan in the back with trainers. Big Show is pissed and is ready for Henry.

* Ted DiBiase beat Derrick Bateman.

* Big Show is backstage looking for Mark Henry and runs into Tyson Kidd and Jinder Mahal. Show knocked Jinder out. Show comes out to the ring and cuts a promo on Henry and their match at Survivor Series.

* Kofi Kingston beat Hunico.

* A promo for Ezekiel Jackson aired.

* Natalya and Beth Phoenix beat Kaitlyn and AJ Lee.

* Henry vs. Show with Booker T as referee is announced for the dark main event.

* Randy Orton and Sheamus vs. Cody Rhodes and Wade Barrett is next. Team Orton got the win by DQ when Christian hit Sheamus with a crutch. Team Orton beatdown everyone in the end to end the show.
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Post by: HSJ on November 16, 2011, 02:20:02 AM


* Christian came out wearing a neckbrace, a boot on his foot and using a crutch. Christian will be there to support Team Barrett at Survivor Series. Christian just wants "one more match."


Amazing.
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Post by: #sorrynotsorry on November 16, 2011, 02:23:31 AM
Smackdown seems just so much more entertaining than Raw these days.
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Post by: LPM on November 16, 2011, 02:26:21 AM


* Christian came out wearing a neckbrace, a boot on his foot and using a crutch. Christian will be there to support Team Barrett at Survivor Series. Christian just wants "one more match."


Amazing.

Loved that too.

Who did Jinder Mahal piss off? I don't think he even really got a push before being embarrassed over and over.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Baby Shoes on November 16, 2011, 04:48:59 AM
Not that its a huge deal but that report says the dark match was Justin Gabriel beating a local wrestler.  Heard from another report "local wrestler" was Ken Doane/ Kenny "Spirit Squad" Dykstra.
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Post by: foleyfanforever88 on November 18, 2011, 11:57:43 AM
How sick was the sound of Jinder Mahal's head hitting the ground after Big Show knocked him out..damn.

EDIT: Maybe it was his hand; I can't tell. I've watched it back like 14 times.
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Post by: devo on November 18, 2011, 12:46:52 PM
I dig that they're making regular use of these "cut-in" interviews during entrances and what-not. Smart use of time.
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Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on November 18, 2011, 01:51:26 PM
How sick was the sound of Jinder Mahal's head hitting the ground after Big Show knocked him out..damn.

EDIT: Maybe it was his hand; I can't tell. I've watched it back like 14 times.

I thought it had been sweetened by editing tbh
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Post by: JRE on November 22, 2011, 11:58:42 AM
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Mark Henry comes out on a crutch and cuts promo saying he will fight through his leg injury. Big Show comes out. H tells Henry that what he just did to him, Henry did to Show. Henry called Show the world's largest loser. Show laid out Henry with KO punch. Daniel Bryan came out and cashed in MITB.  We have a new champion.

Not so fast.  Teddy Long comes out and says Henry was not cleared to compete. He takes Title off of Bryan and gives it back to Henry.

PWInsider.com


I'm interested in seeing how this comes off on TV- on one hand Bryan's going against his word and looks like a coward.  On the other hand he could justify it because of Henry's attack last week and he gets sympathy when Long takes the title away from him.  It also could be a bad thing that they are doing this major angle on the Smackdown after Thanksgiving (no one's watching!) and not next week's Live Tuesday Smackdown. 
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Post by: Venkman on November 22, 2011, 12:03:49 PM
I assume Bryan got his briefcase back too, the liar that he is.

Edit: "Long gave Bryan his briefcase back and told him that he's in the main event with Cody Rhodes, Wade Barrett, and Randy Orton in a four-way match to determine the No. 1 contender for the live Smackdown next week. He said the winner of that match would face Big Show, but he didn't say when (presumably TLC)."
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Post by: Nymyzys on November 22, 2011, 12:41:28 PM
I almost had a stroke when I read Long gave Henry the title back.  Glad DB got to keep the briefcase.  Henry has been giving him so much shit lately, it makes sense that he would try to cash in during Henry's moment of weakness.
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Post by: JRE on November 22, 2011, 01:25:09 PM
Mark Henry comes out on a crutch and cuts promo saying he will fight through his leg injury. Big Show comes out. H tells Henry that what he just did to him, Henry did to Show. Henry called Show the world's largest loser. Show laid out Henry with KO punch. Daniel Bryan came out and cashed in MITB.  We have a new champion. 
Not so fast.  Teddy Long comes out and says Henry was not cleared to compete. He takes Title off of Bryan and gives it back to Henry. 

This set up a Fatal 4 Way for the Number one contendership.  The winner faces Henry for Title next week I think, then winner of that match faces Big Show. 

Hunico beat Justin Gabriel. 

Alicia Fox joins commentary. Divas tag match. Beth & Natty vs. AJ and Kaitlyn. Very quick. Natalya wins with The Sharpshooter on AJ. Post match there was a beatdown. Fox makes save.

Zack Ryder was backstage playing the WWE '12 video game. Sheamus comes in. Comedy ensues. They are tagging tonight vs. Dolph Ziggler and Jack Swagger. Now Long is on the screen and getting heavy boos. Henry comes in and is pissed about defending next week. Funny stuff from both. Long makes it a steel cage match for title next week. 

Jack Swagger and Dolph Ziggler vs. Sheamus and Zach Ryder. It was a long match and really good. The crowd was hot. Ryder won with The Rough Ryder on Ziggler. 

Backstage, AJ is pissed at Daniel Bryan for leaving her out there while Beth and Natty attacked her. Wade Barrett comes and tries to intimidate Bryan. 

Ted DiBiase vs. Heath Slater. At the bell, Jinder Mahal pops up on screen speaking a foreign language. He is talking to DiBiase. He self translates saying that Ted turned his back on his wealthy family. The match begins while he's talking.  The crowd is not into this match at all. It's almost as if we haven't been given a reason to care about either of these two in years. It's a shame, they are working their asses off. Decent match. Ted DiBiase goes over clean. 

Cody Rhodes cuts promo backstage. He talks about throwing water at an announcer. Then says he's gonna win the 4-way.

The Fatal 4-way is up next. Randy Orton vs. Daniel Bryan vs. Wade Barrett vs. Cody Rhodes. 

Daniel Bryan wins when Cody taps. Cody did a post match beatdown on Bryan until Orton made the save. That was the end of smackdown. 

Dark main event is Orton and Bryan vs. Barrett and Rhodes. I'm sure the faces will win to send us home happy. My wife is 8.5 months pregnant so we are going to beat the crowd to the parking lot. Goodnight from Wilkes-Barre, PA.

-PWI

So Bryan/Henry cage match for the title next week. Good to see them investing time into Bryan.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Ed on November 22, 2011, 02:17:17 PM
That just confirms he's not cashing in at WrestleMania.
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Post by: The Amazing Rando on November 22, 2011, 02:20:35 PM
That just confirms he's not cashing in at WrestleMania.

Or they could be using this sort of program to see how well he does in that sort of upper-card spotlight for an extended period of time. Granted, he had that quite a lot on the indies, but in the minds of the WWE "If it didn't happen here, it didn't happen" so this could be his time to prove himself as a main event force before being given the belt, instead of being given the belt and floundering back into the midcard shortly after.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on November 22, 2011, 02:42:16 PM
I'm so glad Heath Slater is back. I was just thinking tonight, "How long until Heath Slater comes back?"

I'm not joking.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: muzzington on November 22, 2011, 02:44:34 PM
Good news for Bryan that Long had a lot of heat after denying him the title.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: muzzington on November 22, 2011, 02:50:10 PM
I'm so glad Heath Slater is back. I was just thinking tonight, "How long until Heath Slater comes back?"

If Slater said exactly this in a promo I'd be a huge fan.
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Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on November 22, 2011, 02:55:18 PM
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Backstage, AJ is pissed at Daniel Bryan for leaving her out there while Beth and Natty attacked her. Wade Barrett comes and tries to intimidate Bryan.
:D
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Post by: oldskool on November 22, 2011, 04:10:28 PM
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That's the hard camera side behind him, so it intentionally looks like nobody showed up.
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Post by: The ghost of bps21 on November 22, 2011, 04:15:23 PM
Is that black woman in front happy that Bryan won, or mad that Henry lost?  Either way...she is into it.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: muzzington on November 22, 2011, 04:28:15 PM
So much so that her hair fell out.
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Post by: A Happy Medium on November 22, 2011, 07:11:40 PM
I will definitely be watching this on Friday.  I want to see if Bryan is able to hold his own in there, or if it's treated as a fluke.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: alkeiper on November 23, 2011, 02:39:45 AM
I'm glad Bryan didn't win the title, just because I'd be PISSED if he did and I missed this show live.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: wnyxmcneal on November 23, 2011, 09:59:02 AM
If I was at this show, I'd have a heart attack and then spend the rest of the show shitting on it. I've always wanted to see a MITB cash-in live
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Post by: Amy pats fan on November 23, 2011, 12:55:21 PM
I feel like this is all going to lead to him cashing in on Big Show and turning heel
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Venkman on November 23, 2011, 12:58:06 PM
So does Vinny V.
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Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on November 23, 2011, 01:18:20 PM
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Post by: Byron The Bulp on November 23, 2011, 01:23:57 PM
I will definitely be watching this on Friday.  I want to see if Bryan is able to hold his own in there, or if it's treated as a fluke.

I'm sure Michael Cole will make sure to tell you that it's a fluke.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: The Amazing Rando on November 23, 2011, 01:25:45 PM
I will definitely be watching this on Friday.  I want to see if Bryan is able to hold his own in there, or if it's treated as a fluke.

I'm sure Michael Cole will make sure to tell you that it's a fluke.

MITB is not about how the person wins the title (for the most part) but what they do with it once they have it.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Nymyzys on November 25, 2011, 11:07:35 AM
Watching SD! just for the shit fit Cole is going to throw when DB is temporarily announced as Champion.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Nymyzys on November 25, 2011, 11:16:54 AM
That was beautiful.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: BPSS on November 25, 2011, 11:45:14 AM
DO I LOOK LIKE A GAME? THEN WHY YOU TRYNA PLAY ME LIKE ONE?
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Mildly Threatening Damon on November 25, 2011, 12:14:35 PM
Ryder's charisma and interaction with the fans is great.  If he keeps better in the ring, I think him and Ziggler will tear the house down for their eventual US title match.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: RedJed on November 25, 2011, 12:50:40 PM
Ryder's charisma and interaction with the fans is great.  If he keeps better in the ring, I think him and Ziggler will tear the house down for their eventual US title match.

Yeah, the incredible face heat he's riding right now was still there on the show tonight, fans were into that match way more than I ever thought was possible.

Pretty damn good show, very interested to see where they are going with Bryan as I feel he's finally getting a chance to get over here.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Brooklyn Zoo on November 25, 2011, 12:59:50 PM
That four way rocked.
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Post by: Brooklyn Zoo on November 25, 2011, 01:00:07 PM
^ Post/sig.
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Post by: Mildly Threatening Damon on November 25, 2011, 01:14:15 PM
Yeah, the ending worked out great.  Barrett/Orton feud was furthered, Cody got his for being an arrogant prick, and D Bryan go to prove Cole wrong again.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Marie I on November 25, 2011, 04:16:28 PM
Pretty good show there. Looking forward to the live show on Tuesday. Danielson was so over. The false title win was a good segment, and the 4 way was a lot of fun. The tag team match was pretty good too. The pops for Ryder are unreal. And Ziggler's sell of the Zack Attack was amazing.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Mildly Threatening Damon on November 25, 2011, 04:57:03 PM
Dolph's neck and upper body must have springs in it because I have seen that guy bounce about a foot off the ground after taking a bump.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Ed on November 25, 2011, 07:24:45 PM
How is Dolph Ziggler more of Mr. Perfect's son than Mr. Perfect's actual son!?

And no way does this Danielson/AJ relationship go anywhere. It will be dropped in about 2 weeks.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: fazzle on November 25, 2011, 09:33:13 PM
How is Dolph Ziggler more of Mr. Perfect's son than Mr. Perfect's actual son!?

And no way does this Danielson/AJ relationship go anywhere. It will be dropped in about 2 weeks.

He loses to Mark Henry next week, and then snaps and turns heel on AJ claiming it's her fault cause he was too exhaused from fuckin her all week long.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on November 26, 2011, 08:05:49 AM
Hunico is awesome.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Nymyzys on November 26, 2011, 08:53:51 AM
Hunico busted out 95% of Jeff Hardy's moveset last night., except he did everything better. He's all the best qualities of Sin Cara and Jeff Hardy rolled into one.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Ed on November 26, 2011, 09:09:33 AM
Looks like Los Boriquas 2.0 has been dropped.
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Post by: A Happy Medium on November 26, 2011, 12:57:15 PM
I missed the Hunico match, but he's looking pretty good.  I think he was the best part of the Survivor Series match.  He took some excellent bumps and worked hard.

Also, this tag team match is hot as hell.  Ryder's tope spot was freaking fantastic.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Nymyzys on November 26, 2011, 03:30:14 PM
Very very soon, WWE is going to have to pull the trigger and give Ziggler the ball.  He has all the talent in all the right areas, and barring a catastrophic injury (or multiple violations of the wellness policy), will be a major player for years to come.  I think he would be a much bigger deal now if WWE hadn't saddled him with that "Nice to meet you" handshaking bull shit when he debuted the character.

Ryder is also nothing short of a phenomenon at the moment.  He and Ziggler are two of WWE's best new-ish stars.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on November 26, 2011, 03:53:45 PM
Saddled, shit. He was better than anyone when he had to do that shit. And he'd only improved since.
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Post by: A Happy Medium on November 26, 2011, 05:42:25 PM
I have to say that I believe Ryder and Ziggler could be given twenty minutes and churn out a classic match.  They just get better every time you see them.

Also, how about the chairdrop/rocker dropper that Swagger and Dolph showed off?  Very cool.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Monsoon Classic on November 27, 2011, 12:27:15 AM
Dolph Ziggler should be allowed to change his ringname to either Heel Ziggler or #Heel Ziggler.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Marie I on November 27, 2011, 01:53:47 AM
I missed the Hunico match, but he's looking pretty good.  I think he was the best part of the Survivor Series match.  He took some excellent bumps and worked hard.

Also, this tag team match is hot as hell.  Ryder's tope spot was freaking fantastic.

Hunico is pretty good. I'm just not sure the Chicano gimmick is going to do much for him in the long run. Still though, I'm glad he's finally on the main roster and doesn't have to worry about being Sin Cara. I like the Sin Cara gimmick, but he works pretty well as a mask-less rudo. It took me by surprise really. Kinda the same deal for Del Rio.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Baby Shoes on November 27, 2011, 02:54:28 AM
Dolph Ziggler should be allowed to change his ringname to either Heel Ziggler or #Heel Ziggler.

There was actually something recently that Vince wants some people on the roster to change their Twitter handles and the main one he dislikes and wants changed is HEELZiggler.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Wizard of Maz on November 27, 2011, 02:56:14 AM
Dolph Ziggler should be allowed to change his ringname to either Heel Ziggler or #Heel Ziggler.

There was actually something recently that Vince wants some people on the roster to change their Twitter handles and the main one he dislikes and wants changed is HEELZiggler.

Tell Vince to Fuck Vince.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on November 27, 2011, 03:01:59 AM
"CHANGE YOUR TWITTER HANDLE"

"No."

Downstait: I Am Perfection (Dolph Ziggler) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2fgKLfqslM#)
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: New-New-New England Order on November 27, 2011, 04:33:46 AM
I have to say that I believe Ryder and Ziggler could be given twenty minutes and churn out a classic match.  They just get better every time you see them.

Also, how about the chairdrop/rocker dropper that Swagger and Dolph showed off?  Very cool.

They can have a ladder match at TLC that would make both guys a la Rock/HHH at Summerslam.  Plus, it gets the US belt off Ziggler without pinning him.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: BPSS on November 27, 2011, 04:34:04 AM
Dolph Ziggler should be allowed to change his ringname to either Heel Ziggler or #Heel Ziggler.

There was actually something recently that Vince wants some people on the roster to change their Twitter handles and the main one he dislikes and wants changed is HEELZiggler.

Vince is the worst.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Tigger on November 27, 2011, 06:26:32 AM
I'm not sure Ryder is as good as you guys are giving him credit for. He looks pretty goofy in the ring to me. I fully expect Ryder backlash once he gets more exposure and doesn't put on great matches.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: BPSS on November 27, 2011, 06:50:22 AM
Kill yourself, Mr. Dressup
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Post by: Venkman on November 27, 2011, 07:35:24 AM
Actually he's half right - this is the internet, so people will start hating him once he's won the US title and expected to be pushed. People are already questioning his appeal on other boards.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: The ghost of bps21 on November 27, 2011, 07:36:40 AM
He was squashed into submission this week on Raw.  How far do people expect him to be pushed once he wins the US title?
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Venkman on November 27, 2011, 07:37:10 AM
He won an excellent tag bout on SmackDown. I like that his flip to the outside is called the "Ryder Revolution".
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: The ghost of bps21 on November 27, 2011, 07:37:58 AM
Everyone knows that Smackdown is practically a house show.  If it doesn't happen on Raw...it didn't happen.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Venkman on November 27, 2011, 07:40:55 AM
It's more fun to think of it in reverse now.

Also nobody tell Kaitlyn but I don't think her top is the right size - she had some underboob action going on when Natalya had her in the corner.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Ed on November 27, 2011, 09:02:52 AM
I've been wondering how long Ziggler would be able to get away with using HEEL in his username.

Then again, isn't Vince McMahon the same guy who loudly proclaims "This is fake! We're not real! We're not sports! We're entertainment!" Who does he think he is now? Ric Flair?

And when did Natayla start wearing Shawn Michaels' tights?
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Ed on November 27, 2011, 09:04:56 AM
Actually he's half right - this is the internet, so people will start hating him once he's won the US title and expected to be pushed. People are already questioning his appeal on other boards.

Yes. Cries of "He's not ready!" will soon ring out through the internet. Like every other new guy who gets a push.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Venkman on November 27, 2011, 09:10:51 AM
As soon as they started putting twitter names in the entrance chyrons I figured "HeelZiggler" would be a problem. Then Michael Cole kept reading it out loud (under policy that we just can't read the damn screen ourselves). Then Dolph put #HEEL on his ring attire, and people brings sign saying it. That makes the timing of asking him to change it perfect to crazy Vince.

I don't think they'll follow through on that one though.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Ed on November 27, 2011, 09:17:34 AM
Don't forget last Friday on SmackDown Dolph ended his live in-ring promo with #HEEL
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: BPSS on November 27, 2011, 09:21:06 AM
Ziggler's integration of twitter into his persona has thus far been pretty subtle, which contrasts with the WWE's official policy of referencing it in the loudest and most obnoxious way possible.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: I Know You Like Sugar on November 27, 2011, 09:43:40 AM
On the subject of Ziggler censorship, anyone else notice how Ziggler's new theme cuts out all the "I am perfection" stuff?
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Amy pats fan on November 27, 2011, 09:45:42 AM
I'm not sure Ryder is as good as you guys are giving him credit for. He looks pretty goofy in the ring to me. I fully expect Ryder backlash once he gets more exposure and doesn't put on great matches.

I agree.  He was a better worker as a heel,  but there's time for his face work to catch up to his heat.  

He's a lot less over with me since they started pushing him, but WWE manages to suck the fun out of most guys I like.  Plaster him with merchandise and make him John Cena's buddy, yeah.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: A Happy Medium on November 27, 2011, 09:47:02 AM
I don't like that they changed that part of his theme.  In fact, they sawed off the entire beginning.  It had grown on me.  It makes me worried that someone dUNNoesn't like him and is starting to fuck with him, even though he is one of the company's hottest heels.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Venkman on November 27, 2011, 09:48:24 AM
I thought it meant they liked him so they gave him another new theme.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Amy pats fan on November 27, 2011, 09:50:24 AM
They should shave his theme off and dye it brown
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Venkman on November 27, 2011, 09:50:51 AM
That sure was a silly couple of weeks.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: A Happy Medium on November 27, 2011, 09:52:07 AM
I really need to stop reading into these things.  They probably changed it with the best of intentions.  I'm not entirely sure just how cunning and devious these people are.  Petty, yes.  Brilliant, I'm not sure.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Ed on November 27, 2011, 10:00:41 AM
I just want to know why Dolph's mini-Titantron thing says "SHOW OFF" when he's been calling himself "SHOW STEALER".
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: A Happy Medium on November 27, 2011, 10:02:07 AM
Maybe there's too much text and they don't dare scroll it, or make the text smaller.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Venkman on November 27, 2011, 10:02:13 AM
That was actually their dark match main event screen graphic. Technical mistake.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: A Happy Medium on November 27, 2011, 10:03:30 AM
I'm also waiting for HHH to come back and feud with Dolph and bury him every week for being in the Spirit Squad.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Ed on November 27, 2011, 10:04:24 AM
I have to say that I believe Ryder and Ziggler could be given twenty minutes and churn out a classic match.  They just get better every time you see them.

Also, how about the chairdrop/rocker dropper that Swagger and Dolph showed off?  Very cool.

They can have a ladder match at TLC that would make both guys a la Rock/HHH at Summerslam.  Plus, it gets the US belt off Ziggler without pinning him.

Definitely. It probably helps that in real life Dolph and Zack are friends, so the Clique Rule ("Go out of my way to make my friend look good") would probably be in effect. They've bonded over their share admiration of cosplayers.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: BPSS on November 27, 2011, 10:16:53 AM
On the subject of Ziggler censorship, anyone else notice how Ziggler's new theme cuts out all the "I am perfection" stuff?

It now states that he's here to show the world (presumably that he is Perfection).
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Venkman on November 27, 2011, 10:18:08 AM
They need to bring up Dolph's friendship with Peter Venkman on TV.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: BPSS on November 27, 2011, 10:19:24 AM
He already has a Germanic lastname; he doesn't need to be tarred with the brush of racism as well.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on November 27, 2011, 10:21:15 AM
ICH BEN EIN PERFECTION
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on November 27, 2011, 10:41:32 AM
I'm also waiting for HHH to come back and feud with Dolph and bury him every week for being in the Spirit Squad.
                                                                                                     
I imagine Punk will be doing this next month.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Brooklyn Zoo on November 27, 2011, 11:17:35 AM
Triple H is gonna get Sean Waltman to take care of Ziggler.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Baby Shoes on November 27, 2011, 11:38:00 AM
He gonna give Dolph hepatitis?
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: BPSS on November 27, 2011, 11:56:09 AM
Batista returns to feud with Ziggler over who is the better Awesome Heel.
Title: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Baby Shoes on November 27, 2011, 12:00:50 PM
That needs to take up a whole show done.  A show done solely in SPOTLIGHT.
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Post by: Amy pats fan on November 28, 2011, 10:16:16 PM
I'm watching SD from Friday right now, some really good wrestling on the show so far.

Dug the Hunico-Gabriel match a lot.  Hunico has looked great since dropping the mask and changing his style up.  These 2 could have a good series of matches, really nothing better for either of them to do right now.

The Ziggler/Swagger v. Sheamus/Ryder match was really good.  Ziggler is starting to remind me of like a circa 93 Stunning Steve Austin in the ring, he does great selling and stooging and is really intense when he's on offense.

I marked out big for the false switch with Bryan, even knowing what was coming. 
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Post by: Amy pats fan on November 28, 2011, 10:32:32 PM
HOLY SHIT HEATH SLATER IS BACK AND TED DIBIASE HAS A MUSTACHE
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on November 29, 2011, 01:08:56 AM
Wow, Dolph Ziggler is the best possible combination of Stunning Steve, Mr. Perfect, and 1994 Shawn Michaels. You nailed it. It's like he's PERFECTION or something!
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Post by: Hawk 34 on November 29, 2011, 10:54:27 AM
Live show tonight: http://tinychat.com/trtsmsmackdownlive (http://tinychat.com/trtsmsmackdownlive)
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Ed on November 29, 2011, 11:09:06 AM
Wow, Dolph Ziggler is the best possible combination of Stunning Steve, Mr. Perfect, and 1994 Shawn Michaels. You nailed it. It's like he's PERFECTION or something!

Why '94 HBK?
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Mildly Threatening Damon on November 29, 2011, 11:46:02 AM
94 HBK was an arrogant, athletic heel and midcard champion?
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Post by: The ghost of bps21 on November 29, 2011, 11:47:18 AM
And he had people both in the office and fans who thought he wasn't the shit....when it turns out...he was the shit.  Give Dolph the ball.
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: #sorrynotsorry on November 29, 2011, 12:05:47 PM
94 HBK was an arrogant, athletic heel and midcard champion?


Yes
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Post by: BPSS on November 29, 2011, 12:07:26 PM
Orton winging a gift box at Otunga's head and then laughing about it was kinda funny.
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Post by: devo on November 29, 2011, 12:39:37 PM
I suppose having Santa grant Hornswoggle the power of speech makes as much sense as anything else.
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: BPSS on November 29, 2011, 01:03:09 PM
I wish Henry/Bryan got more time, though I suppose this is Kidman's revenge for not getting presents at Christmas.
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Post by: Marie I on November 29, 2011, 01:16:45 PM
Yeah, it was short but it was pretty good. Really thought Danielson was going to win it a couple of times there. Especially during the Lebell Lock, and when he got out of the top rope Power Bomb. Good stuff there. I also noticed Cole wasn't really shitting all over him, which was nice. The finish was really solid. Big time mark for AmDrag but no complaints.
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on November 29, 2011, 01:37:46 PM
94 HBK was an arrogant, athletic heel and midcard champion?

This and he was bumping like an awesome stooge. Also because '94 HBK is my personal favorite.
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Post by: Damaramu on November 29, 2011, 02:36:59 PM
I didn't watch the show. Henry-Danieslon wasn't a cash in was it?
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on November 29, 2011, 02:37:56 PM
No. Bryan won a title shot last Friday.
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Post by: Big Beard Booty Daddy on November 29, 2011, 10:46:17 PM
I'd like to see one day where a superstar gets a title match via a #1 contender match, wins. He still has the title and the case. Then he loses the title, but uses the case right away and wins it back. I think that might be an interesting use of it.
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Post by: Nymyzys on November 30, 2011, 03:07:38 AM
I'd like to see one day where a superstar gets a title match via a #1 contender match, wins. He still has the title and the case. Then he loses the title, but uses the case right away and wins it back. I think that might be an interesting use of it.

A friend and I were discussing something similar a couple days ago.  Let Dolph pull that off after next year's MitB PPV.  Dolph becomes #1 contender, then beats say, Orton at a PPV for the belt.  Next PPV, Orton squeaks out a win to get the title back, so Dolph immediately cashes in and wins the title back from Orton.  This must be followed by the victory headstand.
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Monsoon Classic on November 30, 2011, 04:23:13 AM
With Vicki screaming "Your winner Dolph Ziggler!" over and over and over.
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on November 30, 2011, 04:24:32 AM
Dolph needs to wear a headset while he's doing headstands so we can hear him yelling about how great it is that he can do headstands.
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Big Beard Booty Daddy on November 30, 2011, 04:30:23 AM
Dolph needs to wear a headset while he's doing headstands so we can hear him yelling about how great it is that he can do headstands.

Dolph need to wear a headset and do play by play as he's wrestling.
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: RedJed on November 30, 2011, 09:25:18 AM
Wow.....so nobody thought this show was fucking ridiculous? Even more than a few of those Raws around the walkout angle, etc?

Really, the only thing that was even good to me on this was Bryan/Henry in the cage. They may have made their case for slow building that final match between them for Mania.

The Hornswaggle shit in the battle royal was some of the worst shit I've seen all year. If they are going to have him win a battle royal, shouldnt it be more at the expense of a heatless comedy figure heel instead of a guy who they are trying to apparently push hard? I was completely at a loss at the booking of all of that shit.
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: BPSS on November 30, 2011, 09:37:50 AM
Why dwell on nonsensical booking when we can talk about Dolph Ziggler?
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Furry AND Republican on November 30, 2011, 09:45:51 AM
The Hornswaggle shit in the battle royal was some of the worst shit I've seen all year.
Thank God I didn't watch Smackdown.
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: RedJed on November 30, 2011, 10:32:19 AM
The Hornswaggle shit in the battle royal was some of the worst shit I've seen all year.
Thank God I didn't watch Smackdown.

Yeah it was bad. It was one of those things where you saw where it was all going once it came down to him and Sheamus and you were screaming inside of your soul for it not to be.

The women's mistetoe on a pole match was some hilarious ridiculousness though on the other side of the rest of the bad. It was maybe 45 seconds of nothing but the girls tripping over each other or apparently trying to pull each others legs out from under them.
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: snuffbox on November 30, 2011, 11:00:09 AM
But Dolph Ziggler tho cuz fuck yea
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Nymyzys on November 30, 2011, 11:07:26 AM
VICTORY HEADSTAND!
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Chainsaw 🦇 & Tyrano Shark on November 30, 2011, 11:46:07 AM
The Hornswaggle shit in the battle royal was some of the worst shit I've seen all year.
Thank God I didn't watch Smackdown.

Yeah it was bad. It was one of those things where you saw where it was all going once it came down to him and Sheamus and you were screaming inside of your soul for it not to be.

Oh come on, it wasn't that bad. It was stupid as hell, sure, but it was fine for a goofy Foley-led "special" show. It makes sense for it to be Sheamus given the Irish connection and it really doesn't hurt him in the slightest. It was like the Beaker segment only more dumb, but it wasn't "worst of the anything."
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: DMann1979 on November 30, 2011, 02:12:01 PM
The Hornswaggle shit in the battle royal was some of the worst shit I've seen all year.
Thank God I didn't watch Smackdown.

Yeah it was bad. It was one of those things where you saw where it was all going once it came down to him and Sheamus and you were screaming inside of your soul for it not to be.

Oh come on, it wasn't that bad. It was stupid as hell, sure, but it was fine for a goofy Foley-led "special" show. It makes sense for it to be Sheamus given the Irish connection and it really doesn't hurt him in the slightest. It was like the Beaker segment only more dumb, but it wasn't "worst of the anything."

Jesus had it easier on the cross than the poor souls who had to witness that segment, EVERYONE KNOWS THAT!
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: snuffbox on November 30, 2011, 02:15:38 PM
A babyface badass character was outwitted by a midget to lose a battle royal.  Don't try to defend it.
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: The Amazing Rando on November 30, 2011, 02:26:51 PM
A babyface badass character was outwitted by a midget to lose a battle royal.  Don't try to defend it.

I would tend to agree, however it probably will not be something that is brought up in the future and if it is - well, then Sheamus can kill mofos and that's that. It's not like this is going to be some big downfall for Sheamus as a badass face. A similar situation happened earlier this year, as ADR will go down in the history books as the guy that had to beat Santino to win the Rumble. I say "similar" because just like ADR/Santino, when this little battle royal came down to Sheamus and Hornswoggle, nobody was expecting Sheamus to win (now, if Sheamus was still a heel, then there might be a little problem).
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Monsoon Classic on November 30, 2011, 02:32:41 PM
I thought Sheamus would somehow eliminate the four heels simultaneously.
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: snuffbox on November 30, 2011, 02:33:32 PM
I'm not sure that a smarmy heel quickly eliminating a comedy character who snuck back into the Rumble is comparable to a tough-guy babyface losing a battle royal to a midget wrestler, but ok.
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on December 01, 2011, 11:33:03 AM
It wasn't a real match and Sheamus didn't even try to fight Hornswaggle.  It was just a fun, one time thing for their holiday show.  Nobody will even remember it. 
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on December 01, 2011, 11:42:15 AM
94 HBK was an arrogant, athletic heel and midcard champion?

This and he was bumping like an awesome stooge. Also because '94 HBK is my personal favorite.

Wasn't 1994 the year where he only wrestled for three months and then spent the rest of the year as Diesel's manager and the colour commentator on RAW aside from a handful of tag matches with Diesel late in the year?

He was great in 1992-93, but he didn't really do too much in 1994 other than the ladder match and a nice Rumble appearance from what I remember.
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Grit, Toughness, Soul, & Spirit on December 01, 2011, 12:13:44 PM
94 HBK was an arrogant, athletic heel and midcard champion?

This and he was bumping like an awesome stooge. Also because '94 HBK is my personal favorite.

Wasn't 1994 the year where he only wrestled for three months and then spent the rest of the year as Diesel's manager and the colour commentator on RAW aside from a handful of tag matches with Diesel late in the year?

He was great in 1992-93, but he didn't really do too much in 1994 other than the ladder match and a nice Rumble appearance from what I remember.

He had a great match with Razor on Raw in 94. Also, the Kliq tag.
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: The Amazing Rando on December 01, 2011, 12:21:48 PM
I'm not sure that a smarmy heel quickly eliminating a comedy character who snuck back into the Rumble is comparable to a tough-guy babyface losing a battle royal to a midget wrestler, but ok.

I was only comparing the two on the telegraphing of the obvious finish once it was made clear the final two were established.
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: snuffbox on December 01, 2011, 01:34:17 PM
It wasn't a real match and Sheamus didn't even try to fight Hornswaggle.  It was just a fun, one time thing for their holiday show.  Nobody will even remember it.

"Nobody is even going to remember it" is kind of a big reason why so much of wrestling is retarded.  Let's just do the dumbest, most counter-productive stuff we can think of and then make-believe that our audience suffers severe collective amnesia!
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Monsoon Classic on December 02, 2011, 05:38:36 AM
94 HBK was an arrogant, athletic heel and midcard champion?

This and he was bumping like an awesome stooge. Also because '94 HBK is my personal favorite.

Wasn't 1994 the year where he only wrestled for three months and then spent the rest of the year as Diesel's manager and the colour commentator on RAW aside from a handful of tag matches with Diesel late in the year?

He was great in 1992-93, but he didn't really do too much in 1994 other than the ladder match and a nice Rumble appearance from what I remember.

HBK & Diesel weren't particularly accomodating to the Headshrinkers either.
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Arachnid on December 02, 2011, 06:05:28 AM
Bryan/Henry really made me want that match at Mania.
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Boomer Kamala on December 02, 2011, 11:31:56 AM
Was that the first on-screen interaction between Big Dusty and Goldust? Obviously, Dustin's been on camera with pops a zillion times but it's the first time I remember him as Goldust hanging out with Duthtay if you weeel....
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Monsoon Classic on December 02, 2011, 11:55:29 AM
They shared screentime at Raw: Old School when Goldust asked Cody for tips to be dashing. After they left, Dusty proclaimed he raised some weird kids.
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Exslade ZX on December 02, 2011, 12:06:44 PM
Got a kick out of Orton drilling Otunga in the back of the head with that box, and then having a legit laugh about it haha.
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Byron The Bulp on December 06, 2011, 02:19:05 PM
Quote
* Beth Phoenix and Natalya beat Kaitlyn and AJ. After the match, Kaitlyn turned on AJ and joined Natalya & Beth’s team.

ChickBusters noooo......
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Wizard of Maz on December 06, 2011, 02:37:12 PM
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...........
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: The ghost of bps21 on December 06, 2011, 03:09:30 PM
Here's this weeks full set...with my thoughts as I read them presented in real time:

The show featured tables, ladders and chairs all around ringside.  At the open of the show, Cody Rhodes jumped Booker T as he came to ringside.  As Lilian Garcia went to open the show, Rhodes interrupted her and bullied her and told the crowd he was taking over as ring announcer.

It was the Beat the Clock show where the winner gets to pick the match he wants at the PPV.

Wade Barrett b Ezekiel Jackson

Beth Phoenix & Natalya b A.J. & Kaitlyn - Kaitlyn turned on A.J. and has joined Pin up Strong

Daniel Bryan did an interview and demaned Michael Cole come to the ring and face him as he was sick and tired of Cole.  Cole didn't come to the ring and Bryan went after him but was jumped from behind by Rhodes.

What a boob

Ted DiBiase b Jinder Mahal

Bet this sucked

Big Show and Mark Henry had an in-ring interview segment.  Henry said that he's taken over as the monster of the WWE and Show isn't the man anymore.  Show attacked Henry and the segment ended with Show grabbing a chair and laying out Henry with it.

Bad week to be Henry.  Facing Cena who took him out in one move this past Raw on the next Raw...things not looking up

Sheamus b David Otunga

Bet this sucked

Zack Ryder b Heath Slater

Cody Rhodes b Daniel Bryan via DQ when Booker T attacked Rhodes

Teddy Long was backstage with Aksana.  Rhodes interrupted and demanded a match with Booker and Long made it official that they would face for the IC title at the TLC PPV.

Randy Orton b Dolph Ziggler to get his win back. 

Well...Ziggler lost again this week but he did beat Orton before so I guess it's...

Orton beat Ziggler in the fastest time on the show

Oh fuck you.  Without knowing who for sure was in the challenge...this show had matches lost by Ezekial Jackson, Heath Slater, Jinder Mahal, David Otunga and perennial push over Daniel Bryan who lost by a DQ.  Seriously...fuck you.

and Orton asked for a tables match against Barrett on the PPV.

Die in a fire
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Byron The Bulp on December 06, 2011, 03:14:26 PM
Guarantee the finish to that Orton/Wade match is gonna get botched when a table doesn't break right on an RKO
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Guns N' BOses on December 06, 2011, 04:54:20 PM
We're finally getting a payoff to the Orton/table feud?
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Amy pats fan on December 07, 2011, 01:28:06 AM
The problem with "Pin Up Strong" or whatever they're calling them is they should be destroying every girl on the roster.  What face diva would you look at and think they have any chance against Beth or Nattie?

The idea had potential but I stopped caring as soon as they started losing matches to Kelly and Eve by fucking rollups and shit.  LayCool was booked stronger. 

I like Kaitlyn in the group, but if they aren't murdering everybody what's the point?

Related, they need to restock the face side of the Diva roster.  When Kelly Kelly is the ace you know you've gone horribly off course.
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Mildly Threatening Damon on December 07, 2011, 03:33:12 AM
It should basically be Natalya and Beth snapping bitches in half with the Pin-Up until Kharma and her baby come back to save the day.
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Spaceman Spiff 🚀 on December 07, 2011, 04:11:15 AM
Pin Up Strong, more like Pinned Down Strong.
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Byron The Bulp on December 07, 2011, 12:21:58 PM
It's weird, because LayCool showed that they actually are still capable of booking the Divas in interesting, engaging ways. It's like they just intentionally choose not to.
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on December 07, 2011, 02:09:38 PM
the over/under for divas that are booked interestingly is 2
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: oldskool on December 07, 2011, 02:27:32 PM
It's weird, because LayCool showed that they actually are still capable of booking the Divas in interesting, engaging ways. It's like they just intentionally choose not to.
Half of LayCool was dating/married to the most respected guy on the roster. Half of the Divas of Doom is dating the guy that tweeted a pic of the WWE title belt in his refrigerator.
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: Amy pats fan on December 08, 2011, 07:53:48 AM
And the other half is a member of the Hart family, who dates a vanilla midget
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: fazzle on December 08, 2011, 10:40:28 AM
the over/under for divas that are booked interestingly is 2


Well they're still 2 short of that right now
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: "Dot Com" Matt Postin (heel) on December 08, 2011, 02:16:21 PM
Then it's the under.
Title: Re: Your first ever Smackdown spoilers/discussion thread for November '11?
Post by: The ghost of bps21 on December 08, 2011, 07:27:54 PM
This should make some people happy...

From the observer site:

The A.J. & Kaitlyn vs. Beth Phoenix & Natalya match where Kaitlyn turned on A.J. after she lost and joined the Pin Up Strong group was edited off the television show that just aired in Australia.  It's usually an identical show to what airs in the U.S. on Fridays.