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Title: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on January 04, 2014, 06:57:57 AM
Is it really fair to say Dominic Cruz is undefeated in 6 years when he hasn't fought for the last 2 years?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: MikeofEvil on January 05, 2014, 07:38:22 AM
Is it really fair to say Dominic Cruz is undefeated in 6 years when he hasn't fought for the last 2 years?

By that logic, I'm undefeated in nearly 32 years. And yes, it's a fair point.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on January 08, 2014, 01:45:14 AM
http://www.sherdog.com/blog/Video-Joe-Rogans-Top-8-UFC-HeadKick-Knockouts-61707

I posted a comment on a Sherdog video, feel free to share.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on January 09, 2014, 01:20:59 AM
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UFC welterweight Matt Brown got a few pals together for the inaugural episode of his podcast. In an obviously relaxed setting joined by a few like-minded friends, Brown began opening up on his thoughts on women's MMA.

"I just think this, if I'm [going] to pay $60 for a Pay-Per-View to watch women fight they should at least be topless."

"How many knockouts do you see in women's fights? It's not really my thing, I respect what they do, but look, they don't have the body type or the power, all that s**t, for knockouts. If you're not a good grappler in women's MMA then you're behind. It's no different than the 125 [pound] division of men's MMA in that they're just really not built for knockouts."
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: BPSS on January 09, 2014, 04:17:16 AM
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UFC welterweight Matt Brown got a few pals together for the inaugural episode of his podcast. In an obviously relaxed setting joined by a few like-minded friends, Brown began opening up on his thoughts on women's MMA.

"I just think this, if I'm [going] to pay $60 for a Pay-Per-View to watch women fight they should at least be topless."

"How many knockouts do you see in women's fights? It's not really my thing, I respect what they do, but look, they don't have the body type or the power, all that s**t, for knockouts. If you're not a good grappler in women's MMA then you're behind. It's no different than the 125 [pound] division of men's MMA in that they're just really not built for knockouts."

(http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/489005f384a0a66900d26d1a7bd8b24d489f21ba/c%3D24-0-2463-3248%26r%3D537%26c%3D0-0-534-712/local/-/media/USATODAY/test/2013/08/19/1376960003000-USP-MMA-UFC-Fight-Night-26-Brown-vs-Pyle.jpg)
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on January 09, 2014, 05:38:55 AM
That's gonna cost him some money.

Matt Hughes would probably yell at him too but he most likely feels the same.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: NoCalMike on January 13, 2014, 09:57:31 AM
CBS lands 8 fight deal one Titan FC.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on January 14, 2014, 05:45:54 AM
Cat Zingano's husband just committed suicide.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: NoCalMike on January 14, 2014, 08:17:44 AM
Cat Zingano's husband just committed suicide.

Rousey vs. Tate 3 in May?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Beer Baron on January 14, 2014, 08:43:37 AM
Rousey vs Davis by May.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on January 17, 2014, 05:04:14 AM
(http://i44.tinypic.com/2gwz59v.jpg)
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: NoCalMike on January 17, 2014, 12:58:36 PM
So with the recent war of words between GSP & Dana, I guess I am wondering who picks up the tab for these stricter drug tests?  Is that a fighter cost or a UFC cost?  When GSP asked for VADA testing, Hendricks countered with suggesting WADA which is the highest standard available.  It is also the most expensive.  I am not sure the exact cost, but I believe since the UFC doesn't require WADA, that kind of testing would come out of the fighter's pocket?

Should UFC be paying for drug tests?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: cheex incarnate on January 18, 2014, 06:06:19 AM
Just to clarify, I believe that WADA and VADA are essentially the same thing. WADA is the group who administers the VADA test (I may be a little off on that, but in any case I don't think WADA is a certain type of test that can be given). This was part of the reason Hendrix looked a little foolish in his refusal to do the advanced testing even if GSP were to pay for it (his explanation on the MMA Hour of "I don't want to know if GSP is juicing because then the fight will get taken away from me", was a little dumb too).

In any case, I think the organization should be the one to foot the bill for the stricter test. There may be a few conflicts with states that administer their own test, but in the case where the UFC are the ones who set the standards why wouldn't they want to have the best available? This is not to say that I think the current UFC-led testing are particularly subpar (they caught Rothwell and I believe Bigfoot with the UFC tests), but a more comprehensive test is obviously the "more respectable" way to go.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on January 18, 2014, 07:54:27 AM
I greatly enjoyed Wednesday's show on the whole.

- I think it was Brent Brookhouse who talked about cashing in their Lorenz Larkin fan card. Yeah. He shows flashes of brilliance but that was such a frustrating fight to watch. Credit to Tavares doe.

- Holy fuck Dillashaw looked good. That was a completely awesome to watch outclassing.

- Oh, Romero. The guy punches a dude in the dick, gets mud butt, gets outwrestled by somebody who has no business doing it and still manages to pull it off. I think we should look into sponsering this dude, guys.

- Rockhold looked fab, those kicks were brutal. I love when dudes with soccer backgrounds just blast them out there and his accuracy was pinpoint.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on January 18, 2014, 09:24:13 AM
Romero has won his last two fights in the strangest ways.  Usually with hot prospects, they finish their fights too early and the question mark is always on what happens when they get taken to the third round.  With Romero, we know he's game in the third round, the question is on the first two rounds.  I've never seen such a slow starter as him before.  What happens when he meets a guy with a gas tank?    Rockhold calling out vitor immediately after finishing was awesome, I love when fighters can't get over losses.  And more chatter should be on dillashaw, he looked fantastic and kept at it till the final bell.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on January 18, 2014, 10:04:03 AM
Smolka looked good for such a young guy. His stand-up is smooth and he uses his range well, nice scrambles on the ground too. Would like to see his guard game get tested.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: AA484 on January 18, 2014, 11:18:32 PM
Do we have a mod for the MMA folder?  The old Fight Night card is still pinned and the new one never even had a thread made for it.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Brodypedia on January 18, 2014, 11:46:05 PM
Sonnen and Wand still at war:

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http://instagram.com/p/jUM9z3Eq0W/

Chael's response:
My Pet Idiot posted this earlier http://Instagram.com/p/jUM9z3Eq0W/ He got no RETWEETS so let's help. Keep him relevant until I can retire him in July.
Invalid Tweet ID
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on January 19, 2014, 03:12:29 AM
Anthony Johnson smoked Mike Kyle bad at the WSOF show last night. UFC should pick him up, he's 6-0 since being cut and 205 is the thinnest division there is.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on January 19, 2014, 04:30:02 AM
Do we have a mod for the MMA folder?  The old Fight Night card is still pinned and the new one never even had a thread made for it.

It's me but I've been lazy. I'll fix all this shit when I get home.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Brodypedia on January 20, 2014, 02:09:31 AM
http://vimeo.com/82587176

Frank Dux footage
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on January 20, 2014, 02:17:47 AM
Cool vid, nice find.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on January 30, 2014, 09:07:43 AM
Where is the thread for the fights this weekend? Blablahblahfolderisdyingblahblahblah

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Camp and opponent

"im calm. The fight starts with the weight cut, but thank god im doing really well. I just have to keep doing what im doing, make weight and fight. I think he deserved the title shot. The respect is there, but but were gonna go for it the moment we enter the cage. ill will".

Mood because of the weight cut

"it affects the mood, because you dont eat or drink. But i am used to it, its part of the job. This weak has been easy. I have very little weight to loose and i feel well. This time the weight cut is going very easily".

Lamas and stand up fighting

"I hope he seeks a stand up fight. If he does, ill be prepared. Wherever the fight goes, ill do my best and ill win".

Fighting again on superbowl weekend

"Yes. I am a football afficionado. For me its the best sport there is, its a bigger passion than soccer and MMA. I love it and i am a fan of the new england patriots, but they lost to the broncos and didnt make it to the final. God willing i'll be there at the game cheering for both teams.

Last year you picked the winning team. And this year?

"This year its very difficult. Payton manning is playing really well, but im going with the seahawks. They have russel wilson and marshawn. Marshawn is the man".

You like football more than soccer?

"Sure. Brazilian soccer is shameful. They have to learn with the americans how to put on and event. A lot of things that are happening with the brazilian soccer are shameful. like now, with the national championship, that has ended and nobody knows how it ended [long story really not worth translating].

Passion for football

"it started when i went to the us to fight and watched it on tv. I used to watch a lot of NBA games, then i started following football and understanding the rules. Once you understand the rules, its an addictive sport".

fight with pettis

A lot has been said, so were are expecting it. But 1st i have to beat lamas, then i can think about pettis.

I love the fact that he's a football nut, but that Patriots? CMON BRO
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Brodypedia on February 01, 2014, 01:54:15 AM
No one even bothered to peep about Wandy and Sonnen's brawl? 

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Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on February 01, 2014, 02:47:41 AM
Bolo must be 100.  He was like 70 when he was fighting in the kumite.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 01, 2014, 03:03:38 AM
(http://fightnomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/How-Every-UFC-Fight-Ended-in-2013-no-background-4x3.png)
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 06, 2014, 04:01:35 AM
Freddie Roach on GSP:

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“He told me he wanted to take two years off and I told him two years was retirement. Let’s stick with one year right now and see how you feel and if you feel hungry enough to get back in there, we’ll do it. If not, we’ll call it a day. He had headaches and so forth. You don’t want to hear that. It’s really easy to make a decision after a tough fight like that and after Dana talking really bad about him, getting him depressed and so forth, dragging him down. Most promoters would try to build you back up, but Dana’s not that kind of cat. I’d think about going to another company if that was me, but UFC is a monopoly, it’s the only game in town. I’m sure if he wants to come back, Dana will be the first one to invite him."
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on February 06, 2014, 02:51:01 PM
It sounds like police are currently surrounding Thiago Silva's home.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on February 06, 2014, 03:21:03 PM
He'll come out swinging.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on February 06, 2014, 04:26:30 PM
Per mmajunkie

Silva was reportedly involved in a dispute at Pablo Popovitch Mixed Martial Arts Academy earlier in the evening, which Florida’s Local10.com identified only by address. The Brazilian slugger was apparently armed at the time of the incident.

Silva then reportedly left the scene and retreated to his apartment at Coral Heights Court in Ft. Lauderdale, Fla., where he barricaded himself inside his residence before ultimately surrendering to authorities, which included a S.W.A.T. team that was called to the scene.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 06, 2014, 10:51:46 PM
'Stand your ground'.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: AA484 on February 06, 2014, 11:13:10 PM
'Stand your ground'.

Brazilians DGAF.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on February 07, 2014, 04:35:05 AM
He got arrested for attempted murder. His contract, and obviously his life, are terminated.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Beer Baron on February 07, 2014, 06:57:44 AM
He's a soldier
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 09, 2014, 03:11:54 AM
There's actually dudes on twitter with #FreeThiagoSilva shit going on. Some people just shouldn't be allowed to use the internet.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on February 09, 2014, 07:45:23 AM
War Machine said something along the lines of nothing Silva did was wrong, he just lives in the wrong country.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 12, 2014, 01:39:53 AM
I have huge respect for Bisping for being so open about this but:

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"After the fight, I don't remember anything.  I remember being in the showers and I didn't have a clue what was going on," Bisping stated.  "I was saying to my manager at the time, 'I can't be knocked out cause I'm not fighting for another two months, what the hell are you talking about?' and then these people come and go 'Michael we need to take you to the hospital'.  I'm like I'm not going to the hospital and then I'd say again, 'what's going on', I'd just keep repeating myself."

In the Octagon, Bisping had to be told repeatedly by cut man Jacob 'Stitch' Duran that he was knocked out in the fight, but even in that moment he has no actual memory of the conversation taking place.  What Bisping thought had happened was almost a dreamlike state where he believed he was attending the event along with one of his teammates and was asked to step in and compete last minute.

I have never laughed so hard.

http://msn.foxsports.com/ufc/haymaker/michael-bisping-still-doesn-t-remember-being-ko-d-by-dan-henderson-020614
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 14, 2014, 11:07:05 AM
Glibert Melendez has signed a deal with Bellator, but the UFC has a right to match.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on February 14, 2014, 11:24:08 AM
I don't mind this. I'm all for Bellator building a stronger roster.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: NoCalMike on February 14, 2014, 04:44:40 PM
Yeah I think Melendez did enough in his loss(win) against Henderson and the exciting brawl vs. Sanchez, to prove he is legit
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Brodypedia on February 15, 2014, 01:48:29 AM
No PPV thread again?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgBCEej1tnw&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on February 15, 2014, 02:57:33 AM
That's some of my favourite trash talk ever. 
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 19, 2014, 02:09:19 AM
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/2/17/5420508/former-ufc-fighter-nate-quarry-the-ufc-cares-nothing-about-the

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People have no clue from the outside what it's like to fight for the UFC. After spending 10-15 years chasing your dream only to see that the company it's been your dream to fight for cares nothing about the fighters and only cares about the bottom line.

When I was fighting for the UFC we got X-Mas presents like an iPod. A very bottom of the line iPod but it was still cool. Now the guys get a gift certificate to the UFC store and can use it ONE day. Any money they don't spend on that day is forfeited.

A fighter gets to use the gym at the hotel he's fighting at for free. The cornermen and everyone with him have to pay. So I'm helping Leben make weight the day of weigh ins and have to pay to go sit in the sauna with him. The UFC couldn't say, "The fighter gets 3 people to go into the gym with him the week of the fight."

That's just nickel and dime stuff.

With every little bit they try to squeeze out of the fighters, the more the other organizations will look more attractive.

I'm incredibly grateful for the opportunity to fight for the UFC and everything I have besides my daughter has come from fighting. But let's not fool ourselves. It's not a charity. It's a business. And they are doing everything they can to make money. The fighters are just a product to use and discard. Every up and coming fighter is the best ever. Every ex-fighter who then expresses an opinion is a coward, loser, etc, etc.

I fought for the world title for $10,000. Not a penny more. No bonus. No cut of the PPV. The gate alone was 3.5 million dollars. The third highest gate in UFC history at the time. And they must have loved the fight cuz they show the final punch at the start of EVERY UFC PPV. :-)

Great insight into the business of MMA from Nate Quarry.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on February 19, 2014, 02:16:31 AM
Nate has come off as really bitter the past few years, but I'm sure the truth is somewhere in the middle.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on February 19, 2014, 03:12:01 AM
Nate has come off as really bitter the past few years, but I'm sure the truth is somewhere in the middle.

It usually is. But as time goes on I find myself siding with the fighters more as opposed to what Dana has to say. I'm just getting tired of his act and think the UFC would actually be better off with someone else as the figurehead. Let's not sign Askren, but we'll give some dude with 4 fights a co-main event slot. Let's also let Gilbert walk, whom by all accounts is the uncrowned champion when he beat on Ben Henderson.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on February 19, 2014, 03:25:55 AM
I understand Dana talking out of his ass in certain situations (Gil, Askren, etc) because thats what Dana does.

But how many CURRENT UFC fighters really complain about pay? Everyone that does is either a 1-3 prelim guy or more than 5-years retired.

I train with a couple of guys in the UFC and while I've never directly asked how their finances are, while its nice to make more money, nobody is hurting.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on February 19, 2014, 03:29:41 AM
I get that the pay has improved, it had to. I'm sure there are plenty of current fighters are unhappy with their pay, but won't speak up.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: AA484 on February 19, 2014, 04:20:44 AM
The amateur ranks are even worse.  If you think the NCAA exploits their athletes this makes it look like the local Boys and Girls Club by comparison.  It's such a fucking racket that I refuse to even corner for fights which, by the way, requires a fifty dollar "corner license" to be renewed at the start of every calendar year.  So, yes, if you buy one in December, you have to get it renewed before you can corner again in January.  This is failing to even mention the "promoters" which are typically scummy bar owners who don't give a shit about the fighters or safety.  I fought an amateur fight in a strip club once and had to clean myself up in the public bathroom afterwards because they didn't even have a doc on site.  Yeah, that's sanitary.  I guess tough shit for me if I would have pulled an Anderson Silva.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on February 19, 2014, 04:23:46 AM
There are very few and far inbetween "good" ammy promoters out there.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: AA484 on February 19, 2014, 04:27:12 AM
I assume you meant to have "good" in there somewhere.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on February 21, 2014, 09:08:50 AM
I usually side with the UFC on fighter pay.  It's not like they are just taking the money and keeping it for themselves.  They are expanding the sport and that costs a shit ton of money.  Nate quarry isn't trying to get the sport into china, he also wasn't the one ponying up the money to make tuf.  These ex UFC guys are always bitching about profit sharing but what happens when the UFC loses money?  Does that get shared too? 
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on February 22, 2014, 12:56:40 AM
I tend to side with the UFC for the same reasons. Not to mention, the fighters are taking a risk to "follow their dream" and not get a "real" job.

You want security?  Be an amazing fighter or go work in an office.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on February 23, 2014, 02:54:34 PM
Pettis and Gil are coaching TUF20.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on February 23, 2014, 03:12:43 PM
I fucking hate when that tired reality show holds up a title fight
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 23, 2014, 03:34:49 PM
lol that's how they got Gil to stay, interesting. It shows though that top tier fighters might have more leverage than people think in negotiations.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 24, 2014, 02:35:22 AM
The upside of this is obviously that Gil gets to stay in the UFC to fight top competition but him having to go through TUF to do it blows. Couple that with the fact that they probably won't be fighting until the fall and it delays other contenders from advancing at 155 and this is a situation where we're lucky to break even.

Aldo vs Pettis is the new GSP vs Anderson.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on February 24, 2014, 06:48:53 AM
(http://www1.cdn.sherdog.com/image_crop/200/300/_images/fighter/20090408015955_melendez.JPG)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m084y3qKZw1rom9flo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 24, 2014, 06:53:07 AM
I hope the payday is worth it because Pettis is going to light him up like Times Square on New Years.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on February 24, 2014, 01:17:39 PM
http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=281272848214

Coleman's 2000 Pride GP trophy is up on eBay.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Beer Baron on February 24, 2014, 04:40:09 PM
Nah, Aldo vs Pettis is the BJ Penn vs GSP comparison, because it'll actually happen.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 25, 2014, 02:35:37 AM
Nah, Aldo vs Pettis is the BJ Penn vs GSP comparison, because it'll actually happen.

But....it's been called off twice now. BJ vs GSP went through succesfully twice with no delays whatsoever.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on February 26, 2014, 10:25:48 AM
Nate Diaz asked for his release on Twitter today. Them Diaz boys sure are professional.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on February 27, 2014, 06:30:02 AM
NSAC has banned TRT.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: AA484 on February 27, 2014, 06:44:54 AM
What are the odds that Vitor claims an "injury" prior to the fight?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 27, 2014, 06:49:38 AM
That sound you hear is Dana White calling Lyoto and telling him to be ready to fight on short notice.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on February 27, 2014, 04:10:39 PM
There will be a big announcement on Fox Sports 1 in about 5 minutes (1:15 AM ET) which is pretty late at night for an announcement, so it must be something big.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on February 27, 2014, 04:17:47 PM
Please post what it is. I'd change over, but I'm watching True Detective.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: "Pro Bowler" Benjy "Ball Return" Roberts on February 27, 2014, 04:21:44 PM
Machida vs Weidman according to twitter.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on February 27, 2014, 04:31:30 PM
Vitor is out because he needs more time without TRT.

Weidman vs. Machida is the main event now.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Beer Baron on February 27, 2014, 04:36:17 PM
I'm sure Vitor is done in the UFC.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on February 27, 2014, 04:37:40 PM
I'm sure Vitor is done in the UFC.

There's not a whole lot left for a guy who cannot compete in Vegas.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on February 27, 2014, 05:04:51 PM
He can compete in Vegas, he just needed time to cycle off his TRT regiment so that he wouldn't fail a drug test or have any serious health problems.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on February 27, 2014, 05:25:20 PM
Without TRT I don't know about him competing. His 205 run in the ufc back in the UFC 40's-50's was pretty underwhelming. A step behind.  He's only gotten older since then.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 28, 2014, 12:51:00 AM
http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/showthread.php?p=92613203#post92613203

According to this Brazilian guy, the Brazilian AC followed Nevada's lead and has banned TRT as well.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 28, 2014, 01:50:42 AM
Does this mean Shogun vs Hendo is scrapped now too? Because up until last night the word was that the Brazillian AC would allow him to fight.

Either way, holy shit. Sucks for Vitor but I'm more stoked for Lyoto vs Weidman. Most excited I've been for a title fight in a long, long time.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on February 28, 2014, 03:17:49 AM
Brazil is going to start the ban on TRT after Hendo/Shogun since they already approved Hendo.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 28, 2014, 03:26:41 AM
Good. It'd be a shame if Shogun was robbed of his vengeance.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 03, 2014, 09:08:11 AM
Hey guys go pay your respects to the guy that trained Saku:

http://www.therealtsm.com/index.php?topic=9411.0
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on March 04, 2014, 10:21:28 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJD6aJXQo0M

lol
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on March 04, 2014, 02:53:24 PM
Just like Chael P. Sonnen, I can't wait.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on March 04, 2014, 03:14:00 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/uHDuewQ.gif)

I'm dying at the face he makes right after his little push.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 05, 2014, 12:58:34 AM
"Must be seen to be believed"

That scene is probably the only confrontation in the whole show. Either way, I doubt every episode is filled with Chael/Wand drama, which is the only way they'll get me to watch. Other than Kelvin, there hasn't been a legit contender to come out of TUF in a while.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 05, 2014, 01:06:47 AM
Dodson? Dillashaw?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: AA484 on March 05, 2014, 01:09:27 AM
TUF is just too "pro wrestling" for me.  Most of the "drama" just looks over the top and forced.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 05, 2014, 01:16:16 AM
I forgot about Dodson, I'm not sold on Dillashaw yet. Still, even if I was both of those guys were on the show awhile ago. 2.5 years? something like that.

Also, Bruce Leroy. That was like three and a half years ago. When you think about the number of fights and fighters they've had, that's not the best ratio of success.

I hate the drama too, but the only kind of drama that I'd like would involve Chael and Wand.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 05, 2014, 01:46:47 AM
Oddly enough I'm not really sold on Leroy yet. A good portion of fans thought he lost the Kang fight and he was down 0-2 against Pettis. He's certainly made huge improvements in tightening up his style and particularly his ground game but we'll see how he does against Erik Perez. If he passes that test I think he'll be ready for the big time.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 05, 2014, 11:18:31 AM
Well Chael says he may have to quit the sport due to the TRT ban, so...
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 05, 2014, 11:49:38 AM
Yeah but he's got the exemption for that fight, so it's happening no matter what I'm p. sure.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 05, 2014, 11:53:59 AM
http://msn.foxsports.com/ufc/haymaker/jon-jones-and-tyson-griffin-spar-in-twitter-battle-about-daniel-cormier-030514

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@MikeCies @TysonGriffin I don't think Tyson is hated at all bro

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@superCalo @TysonGriffin lol of course not, Tyson is cool. Jones on the otherhand, major Dbag

lirl SUPER CALO IS AN MMA FAN?!?!
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Grit, Toughness, Soul, & Spirit on March 06, 2014, 02:46:41 AM
MANHOEF/CYBORG II IS HAPPENING IN BRAZIL ON APRIL 13TH
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on March 06, 2014, 04:01:52 AM
http://msn.foxsports.com/ufc/haymaker/jon-jones-and-tyson-griffin-spar-in-twitter-battle-about-daniel-cormier-030514

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@superCalo @TysonGriffin lol of course not, Tyson is cool. Jones on the otherhand, major Dbag

lirl SUPER CALO IS AN MMA FAN?!?!

Super Calo is the twitter handle of some underground MMA reporter, to the liking of FrontRowBrian.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 11, 2014, 05:44:04 AM
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/3/11/5496126/georges-st-pierre-gsp-ufc-trt-ped

Good interview with GSP, sounds like he will return at some point. I hope not, he has nothing left to prove and his mental health has clearly been suffering in recent years, no reason to get punched in the head anymore. You're a legend, bro.

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Royce Gracie
Sakuraba
Mark Coleman
Tito Ortiz
Matt Hughes

Those are his five favourite fighters. Mad respect, me and him have similar tastes and MAHK COLEMAN NEVAH GIVE UP being there is awesome.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 11, 2014, 06:41:05 AM
Oyce Graycee
Sakurubah
Markoleman
Tito Orteez
Matt Yoos
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on March 11, 2014, 07:19:24 AM
I am very glad for that interview, but I was not impressed by that list.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 13, 2014, 04:33:39 AM
http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/3/13/5499090/the-eagles-of-bettendorf

Excellent article by Chuck Mindenhall about the Miletitch team in it's early days. Well worth a read.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 13, 2014, 04:38:16 AM
I really wanna read it but I'm afraid it will make me depressed :(
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 13, 2014, 05:52:13 AM
It's not really depressing mainly because it doesn't focus on Pulver that much.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 13, 2014, 05:57:17 AM
yeah lol I already read it, brings back lots of great memories, great read.

Monte Cox seems like an asshole saying Jens needs the money while he's worth millions. He also sounds like an asshole in airing that shit about Lawler and his contract. He's every bit of an unscrupulous promoter as anyone else. I don't blame him, he made the money, but the dudes like Pulver whose brains were bashed to make that money deserve better respect and it doesn't paint Monte in the best light.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 13, 2014, 05:59:08 AM
Yeah but hasn't Pulver, by his own admission totally blown it in terms of handling his money smartly?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 13, 2014, 06:05:26 AM
Probably, it's Jens's fault don't get me wrong. It just rubs me the wrong way. Forget about the circumstances; if I was a millionaire and had a 'blood brother' bond with someone who had serious CTE and continued to fight for hundreds of dollars, I'd find a way to help them out for sure.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 13, 2014, 06:22:41 AM
Yup. Agreed 100%. Whenever the day comes when Jens dies a lot of people are going to carry that weight.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 13, 2014, 09:42:34 AM
Nice addendum to that article; old MFS guys talk about their impressions of Lawler, mostly around the start of his career:

http://espn.go.com/mma/story/_/id/10599946/fighter-fighter

Pat's story made me laugh the most. Matt's story was funny too in that I could see how it would be demoralizing for a wannabe pro fighter who is also a strongman alpha male to get whooped on by a kid in high school.

Also:

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I didn't see it because I was already ahead of him in the locker room, and Robbie doesn't say anything, so he didn't say much about it. But he was fuming that I lost and someone said I sucked or something, and Robbie looked at him and said, 'You better knock it off.' The guy came at Robbie and Robbie hit him, and then got away. The cops were watching the whole thing, and the guy ended up getting tased. So, a drunk fan got hit by Robbie and tased in one night.

LIRL
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Just Call Me Dan on March 14, 2014, 01:09:15 AM
Great article.

 I've always loved watching Lawler fight.  If he pulls this upset, I think it'll be one of the greatest stories in MMA ever.  Who doesn't remember around the time he got choked out by Shields thinking "what might have been"?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on March 14, 2014, 01:18:47 AM
Big Rigg has been my guy in the welterweight division for a few years now, but I think this is a tough match for him.

I've always liked Robbie and the fact that he has been putting it all together the past year or so makes him a threat to a lot of guys in the division. His biggest weakness has always been mental. If he got over that, man, who knows.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 14, 2014, 01:20:20 AM
Dawgs, let's talk about Robbie in the 171 thread  :D
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on March 15, 2014, 05:00:36 AM
In a recent scrum Rhonda rousey kinda handed the media around her their hats by calling them out on blowing things out of proportion just to make content, to which the guys basically just ate it and didn't say anything in response.   So one, it was pretty awesome.  And two, it reflects my biggest peeve in mma right now - shitty journalism.

Is this just how all media is nowadays, with the 24/7 news cycle, or is mma media especially bad?

I blame meltzer.  They all seem to be pro wrestling fans who look at mma through that lens, and it seems like they care more about ppv buys and steroids than anything else (which is quintessential meltzer.). How many times does Dana white say they don't match make until the fights are over before the media gets that to do otherwise is a fruitless effort and is a practice that has burned Zuffa in the past?

Would it kill these guys to go back in time and look at the UFC in their first five years of business?  Pedro Rizzo vs Ricco Rodriguez from UFC 45 is probably the second most important fight in Zuffa history because it taught them a huge lesson.  It was the most they ever paid for a non televised bout featuring two guys they had huge hopes for that fizzled out quickly.  They tried doing that long term outlook approach, and without fail it always gets spoiled.  Randy/chuck is another great example. 

When reporters ask questions like "is Carlos wins and Johnny wins, does that mean they will fights each other next" they gotta realize that Zuffa, for their own sake, cannot afford to think like that.  They would go crazy because the variables in fighting are so many more than in pro wrestling.  But that doesn't stop the mma media from playing fantasy booker.  Leave that shit to the fans to think about, because that's a fan thing to do, it's not reflective of good journalism. 

It seems like these guys care more about being the ones to "scoop" the story than actually having a real story to write about.  They care so much about getting themselves over that they will go to great lengths in creating the story, and it matters little if it has a shred of truth.  If Gina carano hasn't said publicly that she wants to comeback and fight rousey, it's a non story.  It's just something joe rogan said and they fantasy booked.  It's actually worse because rogan never once said carano. But their sites need content and they can fill a page with speculation - what does Tyrone woodley think about cananos possible return? Click here!

Is it too much to ask the media to have a little bit of dignity?

Watch any Dana white scrum, they know what he gets fired up about and it's one of the first things they go to. When it was fedor, even if the event had nothin to do with hw mma, you'd get a fedor question.  When it's trt and drug testing, you'd get the same question again and again because it gets Dana ranting, which usually nets them three new articles.  There's so many better questions to ask, but they refuse to think any harder than they need to.  And the best part is, all of the sites have the same shit on them!  There's no differentiating between any of them.  Would it kill these guys to do some legwork?  You know, what actual real reporters should do?

Also it's really hard to rant on a phone, so if you're reading this and part of it doesn't make sense, I'll blame autocorrect and lack of proofreading.


Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 15, 2014, 05:42:53 AM
But those are all real issues the UFC is ignoring Rudo!!! THEY ARE AN EVIL COMPANY WHO REFUSES TO FACE THE FACTS!!!!!!!!!

For real though the UFC doesn't exist in its own world, it's facing the same issues all leagues are facing (for the most part). MMA journalists only blow it out of proportion because they aren't relevant and need a way to stand out.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on March 15, 2014, 05:51:01 AM
Even the "credible" journalists still make me cringe more often than not. It's brutal.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 15, 2014, 05:58:33 AM
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/3/15/5512328/ufc-168-dennis-siver-fails-drug-test-siyar-bahadurzada-mma-news

Siver failed a drug test? Shocking!
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 15, 2014, 07:16:10 AM
http://m.mixedmartialarts.com/mma-news/442213/Bisping-Kennedy-is-a-socialist-Oompa-Loompa

I like Bisping a lot more now. Anyone talking shit about a hero like Mandela by taking certain beliefs he had and using them to dismiss his entire legacy is a fuckin' idiot.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on March 15, 2014, 07:53:10 AM
But those are all real issues the UFC is ignoring Rudo!!! THEY ARE AN EVIL COMPANY WHO REFUSES TO FACE THE FACTS!!!!!!!!!

For real though the UFC doesn't exist in its own world, it's facing the same issues all leagues are facing (for the most part). MMA journalists only blow it out of proportion because they aren't relevant and need a way to stand out.

For years the media would complain about the UFC not providing health insurance for it's fighters.  Then the UFC does and it's like one story that quickly gets brushed aside.  It's ridiculous that the stories that get traction are only the negative ones.  Mind you, this is a constant for all media, but it's still a sad state of affairs.

I'm not going to say that Zuffa is a completely good company, they do some pretty sketchy shit from time to time and I think they completely price-out a lot of their fans with their ticket and PPV prices, but they're not some evil group of guys who just want to fuck over fighters and take everyones' money.  When they bought the UFC, I think they were just fans of the sport who saw potential, and what they've done for the sport isn't wholly appreciated by the media. 

The complaints that the UFC is over-saturating the market comes from people who don't remember a time when you had to wait months to watch shows.  The way they are expanding the sport into new countries tends to get glossed over, and the impact that will have 10, 20, years down the line is almost unfathomable.  Can you imagine if the sport gains traction in China?  If 1% of China watches the UFC, and 1% of that audience decides to head to a gym to learn MMA, and 1% of those guys become a fighter, and 1% of those guys are world class, highest level, fighters, that's 100 GSP's added to the sport.  Take those numbers to India and you get 100 more.  The UFC is driving that change, and if we get to that point, how ridiculous will this sport be?  But Vitor Belfort takes TRT, so we need to hear about that all the time now.  Fuck.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on March 15, 2014, 08:16:10 AM
Obviously the issue with over-saturation is that most cards they do put out these days aren't that compelling, and they choose to  instead overload certain cards rather than spread the wealth. Yes, back in the day it would be long stretches between shows but that's what made it so exciting when they did come around, because the shows they did put on were all jam packed with compelling and exciting fights.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on March 15, 2014, 08:25:53 AM
If you had less shows, you would have less divisions.  And people would be complaining about the UFC not having 125, 135, and 145 divisions.  You would also have less shows around the world, which means people in those areas would be complaining about the UFC never coming around as much.  They can't win.

I agree that the less shows means the more anticipation and appreciation you have for them, which is why I like Glory WS so much.  But it doesn't sync with the UFC's goals, and I am in favour of those goals (international expansion, mainly).  Plus, I think it still works out that 6 or 8 events per year I get really excited for - tonights show being a good example.  The last show was prob the Silva/Weidman fight.  Before that was St. Pierre/Hendricks. 

The issue I have is that with more cards, you get lesser fighters making the cards.  There's too many guys with sub 10 fight records making the shows.  I don't know what the solution is for that, or if there is one.  Is it because the minor league system isn't as developed and thus guys just arent getting fights?  Hard to say.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on March 15, 2014, 08:50:48 AM
Subpar and completely unknown fighters are definitely part of it. It's very hard for most fans to get amped up for for a Wednesday card of TUF:Brazil rejects.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on March 15, 2014, 09:02:54 AM
But I don't think the UFC wants you to be.  And that's a change in mindset I think we all have to make.  We're so used to every card meaning something to everyone, that these local-specific shows really change things.  For the UFC, they want those shows to matter to England, to China, to Brazil, first, and then if they get others interested then that's fine.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on March 15, 2014, 09:15:24 AM
I know what their goal is, and if they want to use these cards to bolster regional markets and entice hardcore fans to purchase Fight Pass to watch them then fair enough. What I don't like is stuff like Hathaway-Kim being on them rather than bolstering a mediocre FS1 or PPV card.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 15, 2014, 10:13:45 AM
I had a big spiel ready to go, but I can sum up MMA media in a nutshell:

They operate with the logical foundation that Zuffa is an evil company and MMA as a whole is filled with awful people, and make all their conclusions with this perspective clouding their vision. Anything they write is channeled through this funnel of disingenuous ideation. That's p. much it.

Except for Joe Ortiz, he rules.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 15, 2014, 10:21:37 AM
I mean, one thing I'd like to add; how long have they bitched about TRT, and how much longer will they bitch about TRT? Meanwhile, I'm still not sure if TRT was actually banned because it's barely been reported on! CMON MAN
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 18, 2014, 02:54:21 AM
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Chael Sonnen - "I don't want to give excuses about that. I'm a grown man and I know how to choose my words and I assume responsibility for what I say. I was very envious of where Anderson was. I didn't think he was the best and I wanted to fight and beat him. I wanted to everybody know that. I wanted to win in a fashion that it was not even going to be close. I came to find out that he is a very nice guy. I also met his family. But the person and the fighter are two different things. He is a very pleasant guy, I wish him a wonderful life and I know he loves his children and his wife"

awwww

but I still don't want them to fight again, I don't wanna see Anderson ever fight again but still, awwww
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 18, 2014, 03:04:02 AM
I had a big spiel ready to go, but I can sum up MMA media in a nutshell:

They operate with the logical foundation that Zuffa is an evil company and MMA as a whole is filled with awful people, and make all their conclusions with this perspective clouding their vision. Anything they write is channeled through this funnel of disingenuous ideation. That's p. much it.

Except for Joe Ortiz, he rules.

Brent Brookhouse for my money is the best guy out there. Level-headed, firm but fair and doesn't jump to ridiculous conclusions without verifying facts.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 18, 2014, 03:08:32 AM
http://www.mmamania.com/2014/3/6/5478676/ufc-171-tyrone-woodley-nick-diaz-rory-macdonald-sharing-same-bag-weed-cut-line-mma

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    "@rory_macdonald: I would like to fight the winner of hendricks and lawler @ufc @danawhite" I would like to fly and be invisible. Nice try!
    — Tyron T-Wood Woodley (@TWooodley) February 25, 2014

They've gotta make this fight for the number one contender spot now. A five round main event on a free TV card would be a great idea.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 18, 2014, 03:13:41 AM
Rory vs Woodley makes sense. Let Lombard fight Reckless Dong and if Diaz comes back match him up w/ Lawler.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on March 18, 2014, 03:15:48 AM
The fact that Rory will probably be able to jab his way to a boring UD and a title shot is going to eat me up inside.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 18, 2014, 03:19:55 AM
All it takes is one bomb from Woodley to throw Rory off. He still reacts poorly to big shots.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on March 18, 2014, 03:30:20 AM
Woodley is so hit-or-miss and would play into Rory's gameplan.

Lets just put it this way, I wouldn't put money down on him.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 18, 2014, 03:35:26 AM
Of course not but I think the odds of Woodley landing a bomb that either swings the fight in his favor or KO's Rory are as equal to that or Rory having a boring, jab-centric gameplan. That fight is a pick-em in my eyes.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on March 18, 2014, 03:58:52 AM
Since when did you start picking the Americans to win? And when did I start picking the Canadians to win?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 18, 2014, 05:43:19 AM
Robbie Lawler just made a case to be UFC WW champion and Dong Hyun Kim is knocking dudes out with spinning elbows. It's a brave new world out there.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 18, 2014, 06:46:47 AM
Even if Woodley doesn't land the bomb, he has superior wrestling and has shown a willingness to use it when he can't land one big punch.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Beer Baron on March 18, 2014, 09:35:19 AM
And by round three, Woodley is looking for an oxygen tank.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 18, 2014, 09:42:43 AM
Rory wasn't exactly the epitome of physical conditioning in the third round against Maia either. A nearly dead Maia dragged him to the ground.

Woodley is, in my opinion, the most complete 170 pounder until GSP makes his return. He was dominating Condit and I wouldn't have been surprised to see Woodley push towards a stoppage had Condit not been injured.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on March 18, 2014, 10:04:48 AM
You can't be invisible AND fly.  It's one or the other.  Everyone knows that.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 18, 2014, 10:06:16 AM
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“I really wish [Rogan] would just quit making reference to guys who are built with a certain muscular structure that might fatigue,” Woodley said. “I train way too hard and I put myself through hell for anybody to ever reference me in the sense that I have bad cardio or I might deflate because I have so much muscle. I have muscle because I train, because I was born genetically gifted from God.

http://mmajunkie.com/2014/03/ufc-171s-tyron-woodley-baffled-by-injury-reaction-answers-joe-rogans-criticism/

FWIW
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on March 18, 2014, 10:08:56 AM
BORN EXPLOSIVE
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 18, 2014, 10:12:11 AM
With all the stuff Woodley has talked the last few days I think I have a new entrant into the pantheon of my favorite fighters.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Beer Baron on March 18, 2014, 10:26:01 AM
This is also the same Tyron Woodley that was eating elbows from Nate Marquardt. I don't know what to believe anymore.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 18, 2014, 10:58:40 AM
The Woodley of today is not the same one who fought Nate. He'd merk him if they fought again.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 18, 2014, 02:22:09 PM
http://mmajunkie.com/2014/03/with-teammates-like-woodley-lurking-hector-lombard-makes-case-for-ufc-title-shot/

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“Rory MacDonald, he lost against Lawler, and before that fight, it was an extremely boring fight. But because he is Rory, no one says anything about it.

If that would have been me, I would have been fired from the UFC. But because it’s him, it’s a different story. And then he goes and he loses the fight against (Robbie Lawler), and then he beats Demian Maia, who just came from a guy that I beat. My name is never in the picture.”

Damn, everyone going HAM on Rory at the moment. That's what happens when the UFC pushes him as the number one contender.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 19, 2014, 01:17:44 AM
I'd say Rory is third behind Lawler and Woodley as far as a title shot goes. Him vs Lombard or Kim makes sense to me.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on March 19, 2014, 03:21:45 AM
I still think Rory is behind Condit.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 19, 2014, 03:29:58 AM
I left Condit out because he won't be fighting for a minute but you're right.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 21, 2014, 02:03:26 AM
UFC has released Melvin Guillard. No surprise here, dude was 2-6-1 in his last 8 and Dana was apparently furious about how he performed against Johnson.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 23, 2014, 03:07:35 AM
No thread for the event today?

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Will-ChopeDiego-Brandao-Featherweight-Bout-Pulled-From-UFC-Fight-Night-39-Lineup-65549

I can understand the reasoning behind releasing him, but it's poor form to do it the day of the fight after the weigh-in, and to make him do all that work and not pay him is wtf.

Also hilarious considering that the guy he was fighting threatened to stab someone, yeah Brandao is a great rep of the sport. Also, Abel Trujillo was given a bunch of fight bonuses at a recent event and they KNEW about what he did beforehand. It feels like they just didn't want a bad PR situation so they relented to the pressure of the internet and fucked this guy over.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 23, 2014, 03:12:00 AM
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I fight today. But I just want to make a small post about what has been brought up last night. I made some mistakes in my past. The incidents happened 5 years ago and I will live with them for the rest of my life. But I just want everyone to know the articles are being sensationalized right now and me and my ex wife have spoken about this and we would like everyone to know that we are friends now and have moved on and are different people and are just trying to be good parents to our daughter. She also made a post on her personal page she is allowing me to share. I will make a formal address to this issue after the fight, but I hope this is suffice until then.

It sounds like he and his ex-wife have gotten over it, fwiw.

Also, in no way am I saying that the UFC is wrong in releasing him. The details of what he did sound horrible. But doing it now is bad timing, and regardless of how you feel about what he did, he put in a lot of work to get on the card tonight and deserves the money owed to him for that. I think they should have just not signed him at all. But with Abel getting PAID and still being on their roster, this looks p. hypocritical.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on March 23, 2014, 03:18:58 AM
And as you mentioned Brandao threatened to STAB his opponent before a fight but he keeps his job? I don't think any finish was more satisfying to me last year than Poirier beating the piss out of him and calling him out for it right after.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 23, 2014, 03:30:27 AM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2002697-will-chope-was-discharged-from-air-force-after-repeatedly-assaulting-his-wife

As I said, the details sound terrible. But Mike Tyson, a convicted RAPIST, is still kept around. And I love Mike, I am just pointing it out and believe in rehabilitation. A lot of the same people that will shit on Chope will buy a Mike Tyson PPV or cheer for the Steelers or whatever. Selective morality is the worst.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 23, 2014, 03:36:00 AM
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=12300&zoneid=13

How many people are excited to see Rumble back in the UFC? How come we're allowed to forget about his transgressions and announce him as the best new UFC signing? Oh right, he's an exciting fighter who has potential to do damage and make noise so since we like watching him, we selectively ignore his past.

Mayweather is the biggest draw in boxing, you think these journalists will ignore him because of his spousal abuse history, or stop watching him fight? Of course not, because he's one of the best of all time. This whole situation just proves that if you're really good at what you do, people will forgive you. Character has nothing to do with it.

The people covering this story are just as hypocritical and now I'm done.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on March 23, 2014, 03:44:49 AM
Rumble does nothing for me. He was an underachiever at 170 and got worked by Koscheck. I can't see him beating Davis. Not now, not ever.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 23, 2014, 09:12:35 AM
These fights have been p. good so far, and we don't have a thread smdh

Felt bad for Jorgensen, got screwed over with that headbutt. Kenny Robertson showed off his BASED ground game, love watching him fight.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on March 23, 2014, 09:28:58 AM
Always love when people who fail to make weight that badly get their asses handed to them.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on March 23, 2014, 10:14:22 AM
Pretty bad stoppage there.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on March 23, 2014, 10:19:25 AM
If I was Siler, I'd be pissed.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on March 23, 2014, 11:14:55 AM
These fights have been p. good so far, and we don't have a thread smdh

Felt bad for Jorgensen, got screwed over with that headbutt. Kenny Robertson showed off his BASED ground game, love watching him fight.

Only big cards deserve the threads... or if we had some Brazilian posters then they could make the thread.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on March 23, 2014, 11:17:30 AM
Just so everyone knows, it's well known/a running joke that Villante is the worst fighter to come out of Long Island.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on March 23, 2014, 11:20:05 AM
Eh I don't care... I'd watch Maldonado fight a drunken Matt Hamill and would still enjoy it.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 23, 2014, 12:01:05 PM
This Cardoso ref screwed Parke out of a win that he deserved, and me out of some money!
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on March 23, 2014, 12:09:22 PM
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=12300&zoneid=13

How many people are excited to see Rumble back in the UFC? How come we're allowed to forget about his transgressions and announce him as the best new UFC signing? Oh right, he's an exciting fighter who has potential to do damage and make noise so since we like watching him, we selectively ignore his past.

Mayweather is the biggest draw in boxing, you think these journalists will ignore him because of his spousal abuse history, or stop watching him fight? Of course not, because he's one of the best of all time. This whole situation just proves that if you're really good at what you do, people will forgive you. Character has nothing to do with it.

The people covering this story are just as hypocritical and now I'm done.

I had to look up Johnson's past as I don't even remember his incident in 2009 and at first I was like, "Is he seriously comparing a waste of potential/talent who blew weight a bunch of times to rapists, guys who threaten to stab people, and women beaters in his string of multiple posts?" then I read through it and shrugged. I guess having a combo of UFC PR people and years without other similar incidents makes a difference?

There's the Rampage incident where his little car chase gave some woman an unwanted abortion, the Jon Jones DUI, Tito Ortiz's sad joke of disputes with Jenna Jameson over the years, the Thiago Silva chaos, etc. that I don't really pay attention to what these people do unless they kill/rape/molest someone... unless it becomes something heavily focused on in the media and since I don't pay attention to any MMA exclusive sites anymore it would have to be posted in here and I might make a joke or two.

The last time I really paid attention to any story is when Ronda Rousey became a truther for Sandy Hook and was amazed at how quickly the UFC's PR team nipped that bullshit in the bud and how it didn't hurt her drawing power at all. That's when I realized I don't care about what any of these people do once their out of the cage and can only hope most of them are good people in their communities like Cain and DC.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on March 23, 2014, 12:14:32 PM
Why is it so satisfying when foreign fighters turn Brazilian arenas into mausoleums lol.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 23, 2014, 12:22:35 PM
....that was the most koabian post ever. Right down to the laughing off of spousal abuse and revealing of a quirky conspiracy theory I didn't even know existed. I didn't know Sandy Hook conspiracy theorists was a thing and Ronda was one of them? WTF

Anyway, like I said if you've got proven talent they will find a way to get you off the hook. Mayweather, Rampage, and countless others are proof of this. Bankability>Character.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 23, 2014, 12:49:10 PM
Damn, Hendo's chin is DONE. Just retire bro, without the TRT you're gonna be a shell of this shell of your former self :(
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on March 23, 2014, 12:54:06 PM
HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 23, 2014, 12:54:32 PM
Okay, retire on top Dan but GOT DAMN what a finish.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 23, 2014, 12:58:48 PM
HENDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: DCH on March 23, 2014, 12:59:48 PM
Dan didn't even wind up on that BRH, and poor Shogun's chin is done (after years of abuse), he just crumpled.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on March 23, 2014, 04:49:25 PM
Good win for Hendo, considering that Shogun knocked him out cold in the first for all of a moment. He snapped back to pretty fast though. Being TRT free, this is probably a good final fight, but I'm sure he'll hang on a little longer. That punch on the nose was right on the money.

Yamasaki fucked Taisumov  in this fight. Deduction a point by landing a kick to a downed guy, while downed, in a fucking scramble? That was awful. And while the fence grabs were a bit much, another point taken where there didn't need to be. Taisumov seemed too scared to be around the cage after that. I don't even remember a warning before the point was taken

The Steven Siler stop was bad as well. The way he grabbed his head after getting punched was odd, but the moment his ass hit the mat he was up-kicking.

And we may have seen the last of Young Gun in the UFC. I guess it's going to come down to how bad they need a body at 125
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 24, 2014, 01:19:40 AM
I'm not going to disagree with the sentiments that Shogun was done once the big shot landed but Herb fucked up big time by putting himself completely out of position to not see the four hammerfists to the back of the head and then stopping the fight after he comes around to the other side and sees Shogun clinging to a leg. Between this, the early stoppages for Barao and Rousey and letting TJ Waldburger get concussed multiple times I think we can now remove the "Best Ref in The Biz" label from Dean.

Siler's stoppage was fucking awful too, I'd say he should try and appeal but it's a Brazillian ref calling a stoppage in favour of a Brazillian fighter in Brazil so there's no chance that's going to happen.

Prelims were tons of fun, Pepey's flying knee KO should make some lists at the end of the year. In fact if El Dongo hadn't busted out the spinning death elbow I'd say it's the best of 2014 so far.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 24, 2014, 01:31:45 AM
More people need to be talking about CB Toneyway, dat shoulder roll was sweet. The way he showed patience and poise in waiting out the wild swings of Mutante before delivering a great counter shot of his own was beautiful. As soon as I saw how composed he was and how wild Mutante was, I knew the fight was gonna be his.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Brodypedia on March 24, 2014, 01:35:53 AM
I love when MMA finishes make me SCREAM
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 24, 2014, 01:36:43 AM
Dolloway deserves the chance to step up against a top opponent. He'll lose like he always does but he deserves the chance.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on March 24, 2014, 01:39:28 AM
I love when MMA finishes make me SCREAM

That woman was going nuts.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Brodypedia on March 24, 2014, 02:10:58 AM
I love when MMA finishes make me SCREAM

That woman was going nuts.

I missed this.  :/
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Just Call Me Dan on March 24, 2014, 02:20:39 AM
You could only hear her, but she sounded like Rashad Evans' ex-wife.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 24, 2014, 02:51:16 AM
Man, I like Hendo and all but the love he's getting from a hail mary, one in a million shot is ridiculous. He (and Shogun) should just retire and still salvage what's left of their careers.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on March 24, 2014, 02:57:29 AM
It may have been a hail mary, but when a legend like Hendo pulls it off, its bound to get a lot of praise.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 24, 2014, 02:59:38 AM
Whoever's drinking the Hendo kool-aid is going to get a rude awkening when, like Ryan Bader KO's him or some shit.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on March 24, 2014, 03:02:25 AM
Yeah, Henderson is at the point where he could start losing to guys he just shouldn't lose to if he sticks around. As I said before, there was a moments in round one where he was knocked out cold, but snapped back to. This is a good high note to leave on.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on March 24, 2014, 03:02:36 AM
His chin might be on its way out the door, but the man is a legend.

AN AMERICAN LEGEND
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 24, 2014, 03:04:01 AM
Probably the most succesful one-dimensional fighter of all time. I can't think of anybody with such a limited skill set that's achieved the level of accomplishements and put together the resume he has.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: DCH on March 24, 2014, 05:00:11 AM
The way Shogun crumpled backwards after Dean stopped the fight was pretty crazy. Dude is an 80 year old physically now.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Brodypedia on March 24, 2014, 05:04:52 AM
Man, I like Hendo and all but the love he's getting from a hail mary, one in a million shot is ridiculous. He (and Shogun) should just retire and still salvage what's left of their careers.

Sonnen and Kenny wanted an immediate rematch, and Sonnen flat out said both guys were non contenders.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 24, 2014, 06:05:26 AM
The way Shogun crumpled backwards after Dean stopped the fight was pretty crazy. Dude is an 80 year old physically now.

Four massive hammerfists to the back of your head will fuck up your equilibrium pretty bad.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 25, 2014, 03:19:02 AM
Full cast listing for the Edgar vs Penn season of TUF.

Corey Anderson (3-0), 24, Lincoln, Ill.
Kelly Anundson (6-1), 29, Deerfield Beach, Fla.
Anton Berzin (3-1), 24, Philadelphia, Pa.
Josh Clark (7-2), 29, Richmond, Ky.
Chris Fields (8-4), 30, Dublin, Ireland
Matthew Gabel (8-3), 28, Le Mars, Iowa
Lyman Good (15-3), 28, New York, N.Y.
Eddie Gordon (6-1), 29, Uniondale, N.Y.
Jacob Heun (6-3), 26, Coconut Creek, Fla.
Mike King (5-0), 30, Naples, Fla.
Tyler King (7-1), 33, North Attleboro, Mass.
Dhiego Lima (8-1), 33, Sugar Hill, Ga.
Adrian Miles (14-5), 30, Biloxi, Miss.
Tyler Minton (5-1), 26, Johnson City, Tenn.
Todd Monaghan (8-2), 31, Clinton, Iowa
Cody Mumma (5-1), 30, Henderson, Colo.
Cathal Pendred (13-2), 26, Dublin, Ireland
John Poppie (3-1), 24, Ettrick, Wis.
Doug Sparks (7-2), 31, Bloomington, Ind.
Daniel Spohn (8-3), 29, Columbus, Ohio
Joshua Stansbury (4-2), 29, East Liverpool, Ohio
Ian Stephens (4-0), 25, Ringgold, Ga.
Adam Stroup (5-1), 27, Denver, Colo.
Nordine Taleb (8-2), 32, Montreal, Canada
Hector Urbina (16-8), 26, Coconut Creek, Fla.
Matt Van Buren (6-2), 27, Chula Vista, Calif.
Bojan Velickovic (8-2), 33, Delray Beach, Fla.
Daniel Vizcaya (7-2), 28, Aurora, Ill.
Patrick Walsh (4-1), 25, Stoughton, Mass.
Tim Williams (8-1), 27, Millville, N.J.
Roger Zapata (5-1), 27, New York, N.Y.

Nordine Taleb gets another shot at TUF glory!!!

Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 25, 2014, 03:45:35 AM
LOL WTF

Lyman Good is probably the name on there that stands out the most. With the way this show normally goes though, it'll probably be some unknown that takes the whole thing.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on March 25, 2014, 03:47:03 AM
LOL WTF

Lyman Good is probably the name on there that stands out the most. With the way this show normally goes though, it'll probably be some unknown that takes the whole thing.

Nelson won his season as the name fighter. But, yeah. That's usually the case.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on March 25, 2014, 04:20:59 AM
Seeing Lyman Goods name on the list made me do a double take.

Eddie "Truck" Gordon is a Serra-Longo/Power MMA guy. I've known about him for years. He is a big dude who is surprisingly athletic and hits like a...well, a truck.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 25, 2014, 05:37:57 AM
Dhiego Lima is Doug's younger brother, pretty talented kid. Hector Urbina is kind of a WTF choice, dude's been in journeyman status for a minute now.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on March 25, 2014, 07:31:34 AM
Urbina is the type of guy I expected to be brought in before the year was over as a quick replacement on a small shitty card. Literally surprised he'll be on TUF.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 25, 2014, 07:39:33 AM
I would love it if Edgar asked the fighters to raise their hands to show who wants to be on his team and who wants to train with BJ.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 26, 2014, 02:08:54 PM
http://youtu.be/E4bXAheO17k

Is anyone watching this? Looks p. good. I laughed when he shat on Vitor out of nowhere.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 27, 2014, 09:38:45 AM
http://youtu.be/9Rdq3v4lzqk

Good business model for fighters, dunno about the investors.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on March 27, 2014, 09:59:53 AM
Hellllloooooo Montana Stewart.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 27, 2014, 10:30:59 AM
http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/3/26/5546606/ahead-of-metamoris-3-eddie-bravo-continues-crusade-against-the-gi?utm_source=mmafighting&utm_medium=nextclicks&utm_campaign=articlebottom

Eddie Bravo with lots of interesting things to say about the gi in BJJ, but then he goes on a rant comparing people's belief in the gi to their belief in the commonly accepted views on what happened on 9/11. WTF EDDIE
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on March 27, 2014, 11:52:22 AM
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/3/27/5555584/ufc-georges-st-pierre-gsp-acl-injury-mma-news

St. Pierre tears his left ACL (the good one)
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: NoCalMike on March 27, 2014, 10:10:30 PM
His body is telling him NO MAS.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: NoCalMike on March 29, 2014, 03:19:45 PM
Cyborg got her ass handed to her albeit in a kickboxing match, but still...it does further the point that good technique can beat her "bull-rush, and over power" strategy/style.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vGU0hZy0FOw
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 30, 2014, 12:42:18 PM
http://www.sherdog.com/radio/Rewind-Nathan-Quarry-3681

Interesting interview with Nate where he expands on his article, but more importantly just goes over his life story both in and out of MMA which is p. amazing. Best part is him talking about helping Steve Blake training BJJ. I wish they had the pic of him getting triangled by the former Lakers MVP but I can't find it online.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 31, 2014, 02:40:00 AM
http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/3/30/5561482/scott-smith-the-original-comeback-kid-still-battling-demons

Great but tough to read article by Chuck Mindenhall (who's been absolutely killing it lately) about Scott Smith's battle with the bottle.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 31, 2014, 04:42:11 AM
I remember when him and Justin Levens had their battle in the WEC around 2006 and people were talking about them being the next wave of talent to hit the UFC. They were young, had the right amount of experience and people hyped them to no end, never mind the fact that it was just a two-minute KO. Some dummies even ranked them in their LHW Top Ten! (I won't embarrass them by naming who).

It's kind of twisted to see how their lives have actually turned out, let alone their wasted careers. Obviously Smith hasn't had the same gruesome, evil end as Levens but considering how bad he does have it that just makes it all the more mortifying.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 31, 2014, 08:19:02 AM
(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g201/mangomma/AirHendo_zpsf05ef991.png)

Not real but OMG I WANT THEM BLUE AIR HENDOS
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 31, 2014, 11:57:58 AM
Look who is helping Big Nog train:

(http://s2.glbimg.com/0KRMeaWAGzyLW0_qGQPOsNO6FQ8=/620x390/s.glbimg.com/es/ge/f/original/2014/03/31/minotauro-ricardo-arona-e-alvaro-romano.jpg)

THE ARONA HYPE TRAIN IS BACK ON TRACK TEN YEARS LATER YESSSSSSSSS
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: AA484 on March 31, 2014, 12:28:24 PM
It just took that long for him to cycle off the roids.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 31, 2014, 02:44:40 PM
Serious examples of ignorance in MMA from people in high places that causes people to get hurt badly (or worse):

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/3/30/5564700/efc-president-blames-internet-sensationalism-for-stoppage-controversy-mma-news

(http://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/imported_assets/2129261/ipm_gif_medium.jpg)

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The Walravens vs. Mikixi fight was awesome. Sitting Hexagon side, I had no feeling that the stoppage was handled improperly. It was heat of the moment, Walravens delivering standing hammer fist ground and pound, with Mikixi working for position to defend. Walravens was warned by referee Wiekus Swart to be careful of hitting the back of the head, who was monitoring the fight closely, and I felt he was reading the situation well. Bernardo rolled onto his back, a standard defensive position, and then verbally submitted, at which point Wiekus stopped the fight.

What a joke, anyone watching that gif knows that is a GOAT level bad stoppage. Unreal. If he submitted verbally, why did the ref wait for the winning fighter to ask him to stop the fight before stopping it? No wonder this president oversaw a card where a guy died. Speaking of overmatched fighters dying:

http://www.lowkickmma.com/UFC/rufusport_kickboxer_dennis_munson_dies_following_decision_loss_in_milwaukee_302351

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He shouldn't have been allowed out there for the third round

It's hard to describe, but at the end of the second (round) he seemed to have gassed very very hard. And when he came out for the third he had his hands down virtually the whole time. When his opponent was trying to strike him he fell into the ropes every time. (He) didn't throw a single punch and barely covered up. But his mannerisms were of someone who was delirious. Like, he had no idea what was going on, where he was, and just on his last breath of life. Seriously. I've never seen someone like that before. I've seen guys get KO'd standing and still walk around, but not like this.

I turned to my friend as soon as the bell rang of the third round and said, "We just watched a guy die." And i'm really sad that it was true.

JESUS. The ref, but especially the corner that's meant to be his 'family', really ANYONE should have stopped that fight with what was going on. It sounds very much like what happened to Gerald Mclennan, but with worse consequences. I found the memorial post to be disrespectful in its own right since I felt it missed the point but I won't argue about that. On a lesser level but still very disgusting:
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 31, 2014, 02:45:29 PM
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/3/31/5567040/wsof-moraes-vs-rettinghouse-herzog-mma

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As much as we decry boxing for letting guys get their heads beaten in until they can barely talk when their careers are over, at least their corners will stop some fights where their man is being devastated. The referee will stop some fights before a fighter goes down if he's taking too much punishment (something I've been guilty of criticizing in MMA before, and I really need to re-think my opinion on that).

In this case, I saw some people saying "it's only his leg" like that made it no big deal.

Rettinghouse's corner allowing him to fight on one leg when anyone with half a brain knew he had no chance of winning is p. irresponsible. People talk about how it's unacceptable to tap or quit in boxing, but one of the things I appreciate is that corners will stop a fight if they know their guy has no chance of winning a fight and is just taking a beating.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/3/30/5564484/wsof-9-ali-abdel-aziz-and-rey-sefo-talk-about-palhares-heel-hook

Of course these guys will defend him. No, I'm not crazy Ray, you're just the promoter and covering your ass. The chickens will come home to roost with this guy eventually.

Now for a little levity:

http://msn.foxsports.com/watch/the-ultimate-fighter/story/michael-bisping-shows-ranger-up-and-tim-kennedy-how-trash-talk-is-really-done-032814

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"I mean if you are bored enough like I am sometimes, you can go on their website and look at their clothing and holy s--t no wonder they're trying to use me to sell some of it, because I don't know who in their right mind would buy any of that s--t.  It's just f--king awful."
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 31, 2014, 02:47:50 PM
Split into two posts because I couldn't fit it all in one post for some reason. Seriously though, read it all. I think anyone who calls themselves a fan of the sport should be required to know about all of the unsavory aspects of its lower levels.

I still can't get over that shirt. If Dana has opened the door to firing guys over tweets, he should be able to fire them for selling shit like THAT.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Beer Baron on March 31, 2014, 05:57:55 PM
I'm always in favour of a referee or a cornerman coming in and stopping a fight. A good example recently is Tony Weeks stopping the onslaught on Angulo from Canelo. I couldn't imagine living my life if someone had seriously got hurt or died and I had the ability to end the fight.

The arguement over Boxing vs MMA (or any other combat sport) on safety is rather dumb and there are too many variables on what is being safe.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 01, 2014, 02:07:29 AM
Split into two posts because I couldn't fit it all in one post for some reason. Seriously though, read it all. I think anyone who calls themselves a fan of the sport should be required to know about all of the unsavory aspects of its lower levels.

I still can't get over that shirt. If Dana has opened the door to firing guys over tweets, he should be able to fire them for selling shit like THAT.

Yeah Dana's totally going to fire Kennedy over a sponsor and risk getting blacklisted with the military. Come on son.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on April 01, 2014, 02:13:44 AM
I said he should, not that he will.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 01, 2014, 02:17:18 AM
UFC really needs to tighten up when it comes to this kind of stuff though, I agree. Between the dude from TUF and the racist photo, signing a fighter with known Nazi ties and letting Will Chope get a fight in before it was revealed he lied about his discharge from the military they've been fucking up p. bad.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on April 04, 2014, 05:13:26 AM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/other-sports/mma/ufc-news-middleweight-legend-anderson-3340805

KOAB don't get arrested by Anderson please.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 04, 2014, 05:21:09 AM
April fools, dawg.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 05, 2014, 06:00:20 AM
Holly Holm is a violent femme. Another head kick knockout last night. Don't give a fuck what the management situation is, UFC needs to pick her up.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on April 07, 2014, 01:52:41 AM
Jake Shields has been released.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on April 07, 2014, 05:03:20 AM
Kind of surprised by that one to be honest but he was obviously pretty lacklustre in the UFC.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 07, 2014, 05:50:18 AM
Surprising on one hand but not at all on the other. From a business perspective it absolutely makes sense, he was never dominant in victory and one could argue that the Kampmann and Maia fights could have gone the other way. His style was also incredibly boring and outside of hardcore grappling fans he had very little supporters of what he did inside the cage. On top of that he's still a talented enough fighter to derail exciting guys who are on their way to a title shot.

From a sports legitamacy perspective it's absolutely inexcusable. Boring or not he's always been a perrenial top ten WW with an impressive resume who's only losses in the UFC were to the greatest WW of all time, Ellenberger and Lombard and he was undefeated in four fights before his last loss.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on April 07, 2014, 12:54:47 PM
Yeah I don't care how boring people think Jake Shields is, he deserves to fight in the top MMA organization in the world.

http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/showthread.php?p=93858029#post93858029

Everyone watch the videos in this thread, they're p. short. In like six minutes Hatsu and TK do their best impressions of internet message board posters and absolutely destroy Guida's rep.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: DCH on April 07, 2014, 01:59:20 PM
The UFC has been doing this entertainment is almost as important as talent for a while, consider Jon Fitch not getting a title shot for so long essentially because he was boring. At the end of the day they want bums in seats, and a Diego Sanchez losing in entertaining fashion is always going to get preferred over a Ben Askren who dominates boringly. The only reason GSP was tolerated is basically because he was the WW champ and nobody could beat him (also he sold a shitload of PPVs and was a gigantic marketing tool - esp in Canada).
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on April 07, 2014, 03:23:24 PM
Yeah I don't care how boring people think Jake Shields is, he deserves to fight in the top MMA organization in the world.

http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/showthread.php?p=93858029#post93858029

Everyone watch the videos in this thread, they're p. short. In like six minutes Hatsu and TK do their best impressions of internet message board posters and absolutely destroy Guida's rep.

lol that reminded me about the epicness of Guida/Maynard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYpqmzDsFsM
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on April 07, 2014, 03:40:16 PM
Holly Holm is a violent femme. Another head kick knockout last night. Don't give a fuck what the management situation is, UFC needs to pick her up.

Did Dana really low ball her with a $9,000/9,000 deal and then proceeded to shit all over her management?

Lol What the hell
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 08, 2014, 03:19:20 AM
MMAJunkie is reporting it was 15/15 and that she's been offered a quarter million for a boxing fight. Not to say Dana should be paying her that much.

Also in totally unrelated news Melvin Guillard has signed with WSOF.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 08, 2014, 08:38:09 AM
Soooooooo Rob Emerson went on a radio show today and not really but totally implied that Ian McCall was indrectly responsible for Shane del Rosario's death. Wouldn't say how but McCall is a recovering addict and SDR was found with coke and heroin in his system, so yeah......
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: NoCalMike on April 10, 2014, 05:25:59 PM
Do all the usual reliable streaming sites put up feeds for the FIGHT PASS exclusive cards, or are we just shit outta luck on those ones until we pony up?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on April 12, 2014, 08:46:55 AM
Injury related to a fight that hasn't aired.

Spoiler: show
Tyrone Spong suffered a broken leg when a kick was checked by Gokha Saki in the GLORY 15 main event.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 12, 2014, 10:14:28 AM
Man, fuck Bloody Elbow for spoiling that before it aired tonight because not only did they give away a main event but the tournament finals so they actually managed to spoil 3 fights. Thanks, guys.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on April 12, 2014, 12:35:47 PM
So...the RFA fighter that passed out between rounds and was allowed to continue...
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on April 12, 2014, 01:48:08 PM
So...the RFA fighter that passed out between rounds and was allowed to continue...

Yeah. That was a hell of a thing. The people in his corner at the least should have called it there.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on April 13, 2014, 01:36:57 AM
So...the RFA fighter that passed out between rounds and was allowed to continue...

Yeah. That was a hell of a thing. The people in his corner at the least should have called it there.

link/story?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on April 13, 2014, 01:53:04 AM
http://deadspin.com/mma-fighter-blacks-out-in-corner-sent-right-back-in-to-1562543562
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 13, 2014, 01:57:15 AM
What's even more disturbing is the "Yeah, well, whatever" response the Wyoming AC has provided to the media when contacted for a comment. Ed Soares is expected to make a statement at some point soon, he was in Abu Dhabi for the UFC show and wasn't aware of the incident.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on April 13, 2014, 02:10:50 AM
The fighter is now claiming that he wasn't unconscious, just dizzy from a triangle he was in at the end of the round.

No one is going to admit to the staggering negligence involved.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on April 13, 2014, 03:42:52 AM
Say what you want about Pat's politics (I don't give a shit about a person's personal beliefs generally) but there's nobody who has better analysis both of the sport itself as well as the issues surrounding the sport. He's truly been involved to a great degree in every aspect of the game on every level, and that has given him a tremendous IQ for anything MMA-related.

His commentary during that scene that is available in the link was awesome even in its simplicity. His emotional reaction was very telling and his breakdown of what happened, both in terms of what the fighter going unconscious means and the response of the doctor and fight team, was very incisive.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on April 13, 2014, 05:49:02 AM
Agreed, it's a shame pat and the UFC have beef because he'd be a great asset on commentary.  See also, randy couture.  Stephan bonner wasn't too bad, and I hope Mir transitions after he retires.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Grit, Toughness, Soul, & Spirit on April 13, 2014, 06:22:07 AM
Agreed, it's a shame pat and the UFC have beef because he'd be a great asset on commentary.  See also, randy couture.  Stephan bonner wasn't too bad, and I hope Mir transitions after he retires.

I really like Dan Hardy on commentary as well.

All of these guys are light years ahead of Kenny Florian, but Dana loves his robotic bland voice for some reason.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on April 14, 2014, 06:48:26 AM
Surprised this hasn't been posted yet:

http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/4/8/5595204/nate-diaz-breaks-silence-about-issues-with-ufc-dana-white-responds

Don't judge a book by its cover, Nate is a very savvy lad.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 14, 2014, 06:55:35 AM
Yeah, not really. He's 1-2 in his last two fights and while he is an action fighter the truth is outside of a select few guys there are almost no draws at the lighter classes. Not to say people don't enjoy the fights themselves but I talk with a good cross-section of fans and very rarely do you see people outside of the hardcores be aware of what the big fights at LW, FW etc. are. I'd like to know where Nate thinks his bargaining power stems from.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on April 14, 2014, 07:12:41 AM
You really don't think Nate is one of the bigger names at 155?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 14, 2014, 07:13:41 AM
Probably, yeah. Would you pay to see him in a non-title PPV main event? I wouldn't and I think the majority of mma fans would agree with me.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on April 14, 2014, 07:14:44 AM
The two losses were against two of the best in the world, and he proved in his last fight that he's still a relevant top tier fighter. I think his point is not that he's a draw based on name but based on the fact that he helps fill up cards with important fights and that he's not getting a fair share of that. He is a highly ranked fighter and adds credibility. It's a billion dollar company that's paying the core of its product far less than what the revenues indicate they should get. Almost every league has a 50/50 revenue split, 40/60 at worst.

Most guys in the NFL aren't 'draws', but you can't play the game unless they're all there on the field. People will go because of the teams, but if they're not fielding top talent nobody will go watch. Being part of that collective of talented athletes is what he's saying I think. The same goes for any league.

When an uber-capitalist like Pat Miletich thinks the fighter pay system ain't fair, that says a lot.

Also:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2027209-ben-askren-alexander-shlemenko-vs-tito-ortiz-is-a-work

LOL that's why I'm a Ben Askren fan, regardless of his fighting style (which I also love). Right or wrong, he's one of the realest dudes in MMA.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 14, 2014, 07:17:09 AM
I'm not disagreeing the overall sentiments re: pay structure but if Nate Diaz is complaining that he "only" got $120K for wasting Gray Maynard in under five minutes he can go fuck himself. Are the fighters possibly not being paid properly? Quite probably, yes. Are they taking any losses on income in regards to the UFC's business model? Absolutely not.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on April 14, 2014, 07:18:03 AM
Probably, yeah. Would you pay to see him in a non-title PPV main event? I wouldn't and I think the majority of mma fans would agree with me.

Of course, it depends on who the opponent is, but I would pay to see either Diaz in a 5-round main event.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 14, 2014, 07:22:35 AM
I mean, if we're talking a seriously stacked undercard then obviously a PPV price tag can be justified but it'd have to be one hell of a card.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on April 14, 2014, 07:30:31 AM
The fighters aren't taking losses in the UFC's business model, but to train at that level they take losses in terms of how much they spend for camps. It's absurd to me that Liz Carmouche lost money fighting for a title. Also, that doesn't take into account what they're losing in terms of their health. Ultimately that is their choice and I choose to watch it so I don't have much sympathy in that regard, but I do believe that at this point it's being undervalued.

If we wanted to go by 'drawing power', the only real draws in the UFC are Ronda, Cain and Jon Jones. Maybe Chael to a lesser extent but I think if he's not fighting Silva his drawing power is seriously diminished.

Fighters are p. desperate, let's be real, so they'd all be willing to chase the top prize for 5/5 for the idea that "one day I'll be champion and make REAL money". Of course, the vast majority of them won't be champ but they're all delusional and think they will become the top dawg. That's part of what fighting is. With all that being said, I don't think it would be fair to abuse that power and underpay these guys since technically none of them draw. I'm not even speaking on behalf of the fighters, I don't think that's a sustainable business model either.

Giving credit to the UFC, they do pay a lot of potential stars and top contenders more than what they have to. I'm sure guys like Gus, JDS, etc. are getting paid fairly, and in some cases more than fairly. I just think it's a shaky strategy and that they're overextending themselves. Diluted cards which cause low PPV buys are probably scaring them into not wanting to adjust their revenue model, and I can't really blame them. It's a vicious cycle though, and all this work they're doing to build up MMA overseas or whatever, as strong as their branding is, can come back to bite them in the ass if another competitor comes in and starts attracting top level talent.

People forget that the UFC was on the verge of death and that PRIDE was going to be the lone top organization left. If the UFC doesn't evolve with the times they could be in trouble.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 14, 2014, 07:33:38 AM
Yes but even in that regards how much of the camp expenses are required and how much aren't? I'll be the first to admit that I know next to nothing about getting a full camp together and what the cost entails but if a fighter knows what they make, factor in what they could make and the reason they lost money is because their camp went "over budget" due to faults of their own I don't really have any sympathy.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on April 14, 2014, 07:49:15 AM
I think it's just expensive to run a top-level camp, and she got paid 30 G's. After taxes, that can only go so far. Maybe she didn't lose money, but I'm quite certain that for the amount of time she put into training that it was for less than minimum wage. She claims she broke even or lost money, can't remember. Still, we're supposed to be watching pro athletes and thinking 'man, these guys are top tier and get paid handsomely for it'. When she gets paid less than the fry cook at McDonald's, it's a little unsettling.

Diaz is right, how embarrassing would it be for Russell Wilson to get paid less than the cheerleader on the sideline? To me, that also affects the brand. It's hard to respect guys who put all they do into fighting, whether physically, emotionally or running the risk of getting embarrassed on TV, yet a good amount of them are poorer than the ushers in the stands. Dana keeps saying the UFC is like the NFL, there's no way in hell that UFC fighters get the respect that NFL players do.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on April 14, 2014, 08:08:23 AM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1649483-john-cholish-explains-how-much-it-costs-to-be-a-ufc-fighter

A solid breakdown of typical training expenses. Again, this guy was able to retire because he has income from being a wall street guy. That makes his criticism even funnier to me, as a 1%er is essentially saying that the CEO's are getting paid too much. The irony!
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on April 14, 2014, 01:16:19 PM
http://youtu.be/GixDXD44_yA

whhaaaaaaaaaaaat theeeeeeeeee fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

this is real btw. 1.6 million views in ten days looks like we might have a new competitor in the MMA marketplace~!

Also, the size differences are p. disgusting in some cases, not even taking into account that there was a point where like 5 guys were beating on one dude. HOOLIGAN FIGHTS
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on April 14, 2014, 01:17:22 PM
Maybe this deserves its own thread, I can see it becoming popular in Europe, those guys sure love their HOOLIGANS
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: AA484 on April 14, 2014, 01:34:33 PM
Woah, that shit is pretty ridiculous!
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on April 15, 2014, 12:00:17 AM
I'd watch that for the comedy factor.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Just Call Me Dan on April 15, 2014, 02:19:43 AM
I am soooo in.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 16, 2014, 03:45:36 AM
Ronny Markes, Rafaello Oliveira and Thiago Perpetuo cut by UFC today. No surprises here though I could see Markes getting picked up by Bellator due to them having a good relationship with Nova Uniao.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on April 16, 2014, 07:27:11 AM
http://youtu.be/GixDXD44_yA

whhaaaaaaaaaaaat theeeeeeeeee fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

this is real btw. 1.6 million views in ten days looks like we might have a new competitor in the MMA marketplace~!

Also, the size differences are p. disgusting in some cases, not even taking into account that there was a point where like 5 guys were beating on one dude. HOOLIGAN FIGHTS

lirl the littlest black swede somehow getting matched up with the tallest pole oh man this is hilarious.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Grit, Toughness, Soul, & Spirit on April 16, 2014, 07:40:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqcWgQcBi-I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqcWgQcBi-I)

This is fucking wack
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on April 16, 2014, 07:53:44 AM
Watching the second fight that Bro Clock posted, it seems like once the first guy gets eliminated, it's just a matter of time with the numbers advantage.

As if the group beatdowns weren't bad enough, some of those stomps and soccer kicks to the head of a downed opponent made me cringe. I can't see how someone won't die from this. I mean, they all look like shitty fighters but still, someone will probably die just based on what's allowed.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on April 16, 2014, 08:04:07 AM
Reading the comments, it's either disgust or 'you're not from Europe are you?' type shit lirl
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on April 17, 2014, 08:42:08 AM
Schaub said that some TUF fighter from his season went on a racist rampage and talked about how his wife loved him being part of the Aryan brotherhood, doing Heil Hitler salutes and stuff. He didn't say his name, and unfortunately he's so bad with details (wonder why) that he seemed to contradict himself a lot and it's hard to figure out.

The one thing that's probably for sure though is he said it happened the night before his final fight in the house. I wanna say it's Wes Sims but Little Kevin would have a problem with that, probably. The story is p. funny, apparently Kimbo gathered all the black guys in the house to whoop the racist's ass and tried to get Schaub because he thought he was black too lol
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 17, 2014, 08:55:36 AM
Weren't there only, like, 3 black guys in the house? Big Baby, Kimbo and Rogers?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on April 17, 2014, 09:47:47 AM
Shields signed with WSOF.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on April 17, 2014, 12:15:02 PM
Yeah I don't care how boring people think Jake Shields is, he deserves to fight in the top MMA organization in the world.

http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/showthread.php?p=93858029#post93858029

Everyone watch the videos in this thread, they're p. short. In like six minutes Hatsu and TK do their best impressions of internet message board posters and absolutely destroy Guida's rep.

lol that reminded me about the epicness of Guida/Maynard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYpqmzDsFsM

Lol he talked all that shit on Clay and then he nearly gets knocked out by him 30 seconds into their fight.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: AA484 on April 18, 2014, 12:37:27 AM
Speaking on the team fights, it seems like it would be much more feasible and safe to me to do tag-style, Survivor Series type rules.  I guess those would be too long, though.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on April 19, 2014, 01:39:27 AM
http://www.thefightnation.com/rumor-of-the-day-rich-franklin-to-join-one-fc-as-its-new-vice-president/

Makes sense, I don't think Dana would have given him some bs position like he gave Hughes and Liddell and all those guys.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on April 19, 2014, 03:24:00 AM
I suppose Dana has to bury Company Man Franklin now.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 19, 2014, 04:18:12 AM
I dunno about that, Rich seems like the type of guy to get the UFC's blessing before doing something like this. Plus, I don't think OneFC is viewed at as competition so much as a feeder system in place for their Asia expansion. They actually had a few OneFC mainstays on the Singapore card back in January.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: MikeofEvil on April 20, 2014, 08:36:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqcWgQcBi-I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqcWgQcBi-I)

This is fucking wack

I'm just amazed the Poles didn't bring swords:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIaHeK9f3YY
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: DCH on April 20, 2014, 09:18:45 AM
So rumour has it that Ronda is going out with....


Brendan Schaub.

Pics of them together in Costa Rica here:

(http://distilleryimage2.ak.instagram.com/cd73d72cc36c11e3bc200002c9da0032_8.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/rqA3kMm.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Ak65yd7.jpg)

For those of you doubting Schaub's skills, here's a shot of him with his girlfriend last year:

(http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Andrea+Thompson+Brendan+Schaub+3rd+Annual+qyy3GWHfb1Zl.jpg)

If anything the Hybrid has downgraded.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Just Call Me Dan on April 21, 2014, 12:07:06 AM
I really couldn't stand the guy based on interviews and him beating Cro Cop a couple years ago, but he was on Rogan's podcast this past week and seemed like a pretty cool guy.  Good for him.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on April 21, 2014, 12:45:28 AM
I thought the opposite after hearing him on Rogan. He sounds like an idiot.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 21, 2014, 01:16:13 AM
I haven't really heard any bad stories about him but the way he handled himself after the Metamoris debacle was absolutely fucking brutal.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on April 21, 2014, 02:17:38 AM
What did he say after the Metamoris event? I saw the 'match', it was p. pointless. Randy Couture engaged Jacare a little bit at least.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 21, 2014, 02:23:29 AM
Basically insulted the fans, claiming they didn't understand grappling, wouldn't take ownership for not wanting to engage with Cyborg. It's on YouTube somewhere I'm sure.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on April 21, 2014, 02:33:00 AM
I haven't really heard any bad stories about him but the way he handled himself after the Metamoris debacle was absolutely fucking brutal.

He was on Jay Mohr's podcast leading up to that event and was hyping the hell out of it.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 21, 2014, 02:37:42 AM
Which is fine if he was planning to, ya know, grapple. If all the press he'd done leading up to the event was centered on what he's not going to do I doubt people would have bought the online ppv or attended the event.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Brodypedia on April 26, 2014, 11:11:19 AM
(http://img.mixedmartialarts.com/method=get&s=don-frye-04-26-2014-10-9-5-170.jpg)

RIP 'Stache
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on April 26, 2014, 02:00:28 PM
I'm sure he dulled his chainsaw doing so.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on May 06, 2014, 05:42:51 AM
TJ Grant was removed from the UFC rankings due to activity. Nate Diaz was also removed. Likely out of spite.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on May 06, 2014, 06:03:49 AM
I totally agree with TJ being removed and honestly felt his ranking was a tad inflated to begin with, his only top ten win was Maynard and that was enough for some people to rank him in the top three.

The Nate situation is just ridiculous, though.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on May 07, 2014, 12:29:30 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2055371-retired-ufc-fighter-chris-lytle-in-negotiations-to-box-roy-jones-jr

That should be high comedy.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on May 07, 2014, 12:33:42 PM
Why are MMA fighters lining up to get embarrassed by Roy?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on May 07, 2014, 12:51:51 PM
Because boxing promoters are probably willing to shell out a bunch for a reverse James Toney situation.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on May 09, 2014, 02:53:25 PM
(http://www.tvmix.com/wp-content/uploads/23.jpg)
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: NoCalMike on May 09, 2014, 04:44:13 PM
Please let that be real.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Grit, Toughness, Soul, & Spirit on May 09, 2014, 05:08:33 PM
He needs to fight the winner of Silva/Brown instead
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on May 11, 2014, 05:27:12 AM
Quote
Unfortunately, Barry was brutalized in a fight in Denver, CO last weekend, which marked the fourth time he's been knocked out in less than two years time. The violent nature with which Barry gets knocked out might be the most concerning factor in potential head trauma that he's suffered over the last few years.

His latest knockout loss was so hard to watch that a former training partner and friend of Barry's called UFC president Dana White asking him to beg the Louisiana native to call it a career.

"Brock Lesnar called me and begged me to make him retire," White revealed to FOX Sports. "He said 'I don't consider too many people my friend, and I consider Pat Barry a friend, Dana you've got to get this guy to retire'. I said listen he's a grown man, Brock. What am I going to do, there's only so much I can do."
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on May 13, 2014, 01:49:04 AM
lol Tom Lawlor is going over to ROH after he gets released from his UFC contract.

http://www.rohwrestling.com/news/ufc-fighter-training-redragon-saturdays-title-match-live-ippv (http://www.rohwrestling.com/news/ufc-fighter-training-redragon-saturdays-title-match-live-ippv)

Quote
On today’s edition on the MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani, top ranked UFC fighter “Filthy” Tom Lawlor divulged that he has been training with ReDragon.  In the exclusive breaking news, Lawlor confirmed not only is he training with Bobby Fish and Kyle O’Reilly but will in fact be cornering them for their upcoming ROH World Tag Team Title fight this Saturday night live on iPPV as the team challenges the reigning champs, the Young Bucks at WAR OF THE WORLDS.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on May 13, 2014, 06:26:07 AM
Top ranked? Are we using weigh-in entrances as the basis for this list?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: DCH on May 21, 2014, 05:25:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97ueP4IUuSw

This is tremendous
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on May 22, 2014, 03:47:58 AM
Kenny Monday was let go as head wrestling coach of The Blackzillians, there are varying reports but it's being strongly speculated that it's because Eddie Alvarez suffered the concussion that lead to him pulling out of the Bellator show in one of Monday's wrestling classes which he (Eddie) admitted are very intense.

Very interested to see what a guy of Monday's calibre could do at a team like Jacksons, Alpha Male or ATT.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on May 22, 2014, 04:06:40 AM
Thats crazy because the Blackzillian guys do nothing but praise Kenny.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on May 22, 2014, 05:36:49 AM
True but Glenn Robinson is the money man who bankrolls the team and if he wasn't a fan of Monday as it appears to be the case then it doesn't matter much if the team loves him.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on May 26, 2014, 01:55:46 AM
http://youtu.be/8L3OG-fl9tE

Good talk.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Mildly Threatening Damon on May 30, 2014, 02:25:36 AM
Ben Askren finished a fight this morning at One FC.  Also, THIS happened.

http://gfycat.com/SpiritedMassiveAmericanwigeon

FUCKING BRUTAL
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on May 30, 2014, 02:42:31 AM
PRIDE NEVAH DIE
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on May 30, 2014, 04:03:59 AM
That makes me wish the UFC would allow soccer kicks.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on May 30, 2014, 04:36:09 AM
Apparently Ben Askren got taken down, but ended up reversing the guy. I'd be interested in seeing that.

One FC seems p. sick, but I don't think they plan on entering the American market anytime soon.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on May 30, 2014, 07:06:32 AM
Are either of the shows tomorrow available in Canada?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on May 30, 2014, 07:08:48 AM
I don't see it anywhere on my guide for SN 360 so I don't think so.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on May 31, 2014, 12:28:21 AM
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That's the thing, you know, when I hear stupid shit like people saying there is too many fights, you're saturating the market. Are you out of your fucking mind? I mean, we're sitting here talking about all these places that people want us to go and, you got to have fighters, you got to have fights to grow a sport bigger. So, we couldn't possibly do enough fights.

 ::)
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on May 31, 2014, 04:38:11 AM
Combined those two shows today could maybe produce a good card. Separate they are pretty damn bad.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Beer Baron on May 31, 2014, 06:44:53 AM
They could reduce the number of fights on a card.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on May 31, 2014, 02:13:07 PM
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Although Daniel Cormier did not suffer any damage in his UFC 173 octagon outing against Dan Henderson, he did injure his LCL 10 days ahead of the scheduled match-up.

The former Strikeforce Grand Prix champion told UFC Tonight's Ariel Helwani that he seriously injured his LCL ahead of the match-up against Henderson, and was actually considering withdrawing from the fight. He ultimately decided to go through with it and ended up defeating the PRIDE legend via third round submission.

Cormier intends to visit a doctor soon to have his knee scoped out, but also revealed that his ACL has been troubling him for a while and he was worried it may require surgery.

If he performed like that with a bad LCL, then DAMN
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on June 02, 2014, 03:30:06 AM
Bobby Green's family was attacked by a hail of gunfire in a drive-by shooting. All of them suffered gunshot wounds, but all survived except his little brother :(
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 02, 2014, 03:41:31 AM
Oh man, that's brutal.  :'(
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 03, 2014, 05:04:49 AM
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/6/3/5774574/regional-mma-scc-president-neil-forester-twitter-meltdown-mma-diaries#comments

Some podunk Ontario promoter thinks he's Dana White, proceeds to make complete ass of himself.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Grit, Toughness, Soul, & Spirit on June 03, 2014, 05:39:15 AM
Bobby Green's family was attacked by a hail of gunfire in a drive-by shooting. All of them suffered gunshot wounds, but all survived except his little brother :(

Jesus

That's horrible.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on June 03, 2014, 06:58:57 AM
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/6/3/5774574/regional-mma-scc-president-neil-forester-twitter-meltdown-mma-diaries#comments

Some podunk Ontario promoter thinks he's Dana White, proceeds to make complete ass of himself.

He was defending this guy:

https://web.archive.org/web/20120105065633/http://www.thestar.com/article/120181

Damn, I remember cheering against Stoute when he beat Vigneau, but now I kind of wish he disappears from MMA altogether. I would normally believe in second chances, but this is one of the most heinous things I've ever read. The worst part about it is that he and the people that cover him treat this as a story of redemption, like Ray Rice, where they paint him as a man struggling to overcome his past and be a better person. Essentially, they equate what the girl went through with the 'haters' he now has to deal with.

He's actually a decent prospect and looked to be on the road to the UFC, so hopefully that's derailed indefinitely. I know the UFC cut Chope but at the same time they've signed more than their fair share of guys who've committed violence against women, so I hope that him losing plus the extreme nature of this incident will be enough to keep him away. He's old enough that he doesn't have much time to make it anyway.

Elias was actually in his corner, disappointed that he would associate with this guy but I won't hold that against him.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 03, 2014, 08:23:59 AM
Yeah I'm not sure how, team-mate or not somebody could associate with a dude like Stoute. There's having a past and having a past, this guy it's definitely the latter.

Also the promoter basically putting it out there that he'd like one of the fans of his promotion to physically assault Karim is some fucked up shit, hopefully this goes up the chain to the athletic comission and they act on it.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: AA484 on June 03, 2014, 08:44:56 AM
Dana White firing Chope was such a hypocritical bitch move (as usual), coming from the same guy who kept Jackson on the roster after his nutjob rampage a few years back.  Do they not run background checks on these people before they sign them like normal companies?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: AA484 on June 03, 2014, 08:45:11 AM
Pun intended, btw
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on June 03, 2014, 09:43:12 AM
Dana White firing Chope was such a hypocritical bitch move (as usual), coming from the same guy who kept Jackson on the roster after his nutjob rampage a few years back.  Do they not run background checks on these people before they sign them like normal companies?

It's hypocritical yeah because of all the other guys still employed, but I'd still say that what Chope did went above and beyond anything those guys or Rampage did.

Nice pun, btw.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on June 03, 2014, 09:44:00 AM

Also the promoter basically putting it out there that he'd like one of the fans of his promotion to physically assault Karim is some fucked up shit, hopefully this goes up the chain to the athletic comission and they act on it.

Yeah that was super fucked up, these guys are like Carny versions of Dana White, which says A LOT.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 04, 2014, 12:58:05 AM
My understanding of the Chope situation is that he was forthright with the UFC when he got hired about having an assault charge that lead to a discharge from the military but he greatly glossed over just how brutal of an assault charge it actually was. There's no guarantee if he'd been 100% honest with them from the get-go he'd have been given a contract but it was most certainly the fact that he told a half truth that lead to him getting canned.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Mildly Threatening Damon on June 04, 2014, 11:42:44 AM
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/5/16/5724098/ufc-fight-night-cincinnati-results-eddie-wineland-considering-retirement-broken-jaw-mma-news

IDK if anyone saw this.  I hope he reconsiders.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on June 04, 2014, 12:49:10 PM
Nah he should retire. The dude's been in wars for like ten years, I don't think people realize the kind of punishment he was able to withstand during his WEC days. He used to have the best chin, now it's been clearly cracked and combined with his wide-open style it's only going to get worse both in terms of his health and performances. It's actually surprising, because 99.999% of fighters always retire well after they should, so I hope he makes the smart decision.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 05, 2014, 12:54:18 AM
I hope he retires, the guy has been one of the most entertaining lighter-weight fighters of the last decade and managed to defy the odds and secure a title shot when nobody thought he'd be able to. Unfortunately as far as a career to fall back on I'm not sure what he'd do, the guy clearly likes to fight but it's not like has a big name gym to fall back on nor do I see the UFC giving him a cushy internal job like they did with guys like Hughes and Chuck.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on June 05, 2014, 02:53:46 AM
Why should the guy retire? He just hit his peak.

Because Barao caught him with a spinning back kick, which may or may not have been an early stoppage, and he unfortunately broke his jaw in his last fight?

Guys like Wineland are fighters for life. He's not going to retire and why should he when he still has a few years left to make some money.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 05, 2014, 03:32:07 AM
A broken jaw can be a rough thing for fighters to come back from and this is a guy who's relied heavily on his chin to carry him through fights he might have otherwise lost. I'm not sure I agree that he's hitting his peak, I think it's moreso a case of him stringing together a couple of wins over solid competition which lead to a title shot. He just lost to an unranked fighter and I think he'd lose against all of the upper tier of BW's and maybe some of the middle ones too.

The "fighter for life" aspect is the most troubling to me overall. This is a guy that I enjoy watching fight but I don't want to see him get cut from the UFC and go on a Pulver-esque run of losses against low level guys and he's only fighting because he doesn't know what else to do.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on June 05, 2014, 03:37:26 AM
I thought Wineland was a firefighter.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 05, 2014, 03:39:26 AM
Oh yeahhhhhhh. Good call. Even more reason for him to not continue getting brain damaged.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on June 05, 2014, 04:01:46 AM
If he is Chris Lytle light and has a firefighting job on the side, then by all means, maybe retiring or taking a few money fights on the regional levels is the way to go.

I wouldn't compare him to Pulver yet, but guys like that don't do well in the twilights of their career.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 05, 2014, 04:04:41 AM
I think his next fight will be pretty telling about where the rest of his career goes. Getting KO'd like he did in his last fight after showing such a solid chin throughout his career could definitely impact a change in his style and we see a very tenative fighter as opposed to the agressive one we're used to.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on June 05, 2014, 06:54:59 AM
Why should the guy retire? He just hit his peak.

I wouldn't say he's hit his peak. He's been fighting professionally for over ten years which is a lot for anyone, but combined with his style he's probably run his body well past its expiration date.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on June 05, 2014, 06:56:58 AM
Not to mention, being a fire fighter puts a grind on a guy's body too.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on June 05, 2014, 07:50:09 AM
Why should the guy retire? He just hit his peak.

I wouldn't say he's hit his peak. He's been fighting professionally for over ten years which is a lot for anyone, but combined with his style he's probably run his body well past its expiration date.

Physically, he is beat up. But he just hit his peak career wise - the dude just main evented a UFC PPV and challenged for a title. Despite his loss to Eduardo, he's not going to fall far and will still main event the prelims or open up PPVs. Thats when you start getting paid.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on June 05, 2014, 07:56:40 AM
Yeah, I agree completely with that. Only in the past couple of years did he really make a name for himself and start getting bigger paychecks. He spent his physical prime (although technically he's a much better wrestler now that he was back then) getting beat up outdoors in front of like a thousand people, unfortunately.

For those that haven't seen it, catch his fight with Banuelos. Great while it lasted.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 05, 2014, 08:19:31 AM
http://www.sbnation.com/longform/2014/6/5/5762052/joe-rogan-interview-mma-ufc

Awesome, awesome, awesome interview with Joe Rogan. What an interesting dude.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on June 05, 2014, 08:29:56 AM
hey no joe rogan is a tool you're not alloewd to like him didn't you know that??!?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 05, 2014, 08:45:50 AM
Musta missed that memo.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on June 05, 2014, 09:01:34 AM
In all seriousness that's a p. cool article, though I think he's too nice when talking about fighters/commentators in MMA.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on June 06, 2014, 01:47:02 AM
http://entertainment.ie/man-cave/UFC-Dublin-sells-out-in-under-3-minutes-May-be-a-UFC-record/265364.htm

The GOAT is justified. He has a huge base in his home country and can definitely create buzz that leads to PPV buys. The UFC might have a new star. The Title shot bet just puts it all over the top.

He just needs to keep winning.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on June 06, 2014, 01:50:39 AM
That link is just a news brief, but this article is a p. interesting look at how Conor operates:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/ufc/10878262/UFC-Dublin-Conor-McGregor-urges-Ireland-to-set-fastest-selling-event-record-in-title-bet-with-Dana-White.html
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Hektik on June 11, 2014, 11:36:34 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10441067_728569497181497_6187329218504449791_n.jpg)

This picture is just begging for a Brazzers logo on it... & I honestly think Lima would beat Hendricks
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on June 13, 2014, 01:59:38 PM
http://fansided.com/2014/06/04/ufc-fourth-july-concert-headlined-papa-roach-pod-lit/

LOL
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on June 13, 2014, 03:13:40 PM
http://fansided.com/2014/06/04/ufc-fourth-july-concert-headlined-papa-roach-pod-lit/

LOL

Can't say I'm surprised. They refuse to update their shitty nu-metal ppv opening song.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 17, 2014, 07:58:35 AM
Mike Kogan just called Jose Aldo a nigga. I can't wait to see his justification for this, especially in the wake of his "Where Nate Diaz comes from a faggot isn't a homosexual slur" debacle.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on June 20, 2014, 11:22:44 AM
http://youtu.be/tAMvzSUqR4Q

lol this was a weird commercial, shocked at how ripped Rio is though.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: NoCalMike on June 23, 2014, 04:47:38 PM
Here's some hilarious glitches from the new UFC Game

http://mmajunkie.com/2014/06/ea-sports-ufc-glitches-back-back-mount-arm-in-butt-scoot-tko-via-telekinesis#sthash.87GqNjbr.gbpl
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 24, 2014, 07:30:20 AM
UFC has signed 17-0 Legacy FC champ Thomas Almeida. Awesome pickup, this kid is fucking sick.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on June 25, 2014, 05:43:38 AM
http://youtu.be/AOOT_3U4rZM (http://youtu.be/AOOT_3U4rZM)
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on June 25, 2014, 06:08:19 AM
Fucking hilarious. Never change EA.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 25, 2014, 06:33:01 AM
A 43 year old, TRT-less, loser of 4 of his last 5 Dan Henderson is dropping back down to 185. *Shudder*
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on June 25, 2014, 08:14:20 AM
There's a certain point where the AC's need to stop these guys.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 25, 2014, 08:26:03 AM
It's not like Dan is in a Liddell or Leben-esque state where he's continually getting knocked out or involved in huge wars but he got wiped out by Cormier and Vitor decisively and was getting pasted by Shogun before the BRH landed. It's just to the point where he just looks so awful, even in victory that nobody wants to see him fight anymore. And I say this as a fan.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on June 25, 2014, 08:47:26 AM
His next fight will tell us where his career will be going, for sure.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on June 25, 2014, 11:55:26 AM
Mizugaki recently had surgery for an infection in his ear that required removing his entire ear and stitching it back on.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on June 25, 2014, 01:42:18 PM
http://youtu.be/AOOT_3U4rZM (http://youtu.be/AOOT_3U4rZM)

lirl that looks worse than any UFC or MMA game of the past.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on June 26, 2014, 08:12:47 AM
It's been beaten to death but couldn't have said it better:

http://deadspin.com/whatever-happened-to-the-ufc-1596400838/
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 26, 2014, 08:44:35 AM
Yeah, good article. Marchman is usually on point. This Saturday's card is absolutely brutal, the only fight I have any interest in is Hioki/Aloe Vera.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on June 26, 2014, 09:18:44 AM
I am looking forward to both main events as well.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 26, 2014, 10:26:42 AM
I'm looking forward to quite a few fights on the Swanson/Stephens card but the NZ main event is just garbage. A welterweight on a 3 fight losing streak moving up in weight versus a lhw on a two fight losing streak cutting down, both guys finished brutally in their last fight.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on June 26, 2014, 10:29:08 AM
You mean losing streaks, right?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 26, 2014, 10:44:35 AM
Edited. Thanks dawg.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on June 28, 2014, 12:28:36 PM
Colton Smith has to be in the top three of worst TUF winners ever.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on June 28, 2014, 01:17:53 PM
Yeah that was bad.

There were a couple of good fights on so far though. This opener has been good, Jake's brother isn't very good, but Moontasri looks p. damn slick.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on June 28, 2014, 01:20:37 PM
Well he's got slick striking and wrestling defense, but once it ends up on the ground he looks p. green, albeit tough.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on June 28, 2014, 11:23:18 PM
The main event was a great fuckin' fight, and Cub really made the leap to show he's a world class fighter. He has too much swag for his own good, don't walk into the pocket throwing haymakers with your hands down against Jeremy Stephens. I really wish he tried to mix in some more takedowns, but I think his style gives him the best shot to dethrone the champ. He has to fight smarter to beat Aldo though.

The co-main was good too, it's just too bad that Nico didn't know how to make any sorts of adjustments. He could have won that fight. Kelvin showed his toughness and ability in figuring out what to do and then kicking his ass.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on June 28, 2014, 11:25:24 PM
The rest of the card was probably shit, I was barely paying attention but it looked p. shit. At least the finishes on the prelims showcased some good prospects, but the rest of the show was blech. Can't believe some guy tapped out to a UFC 1996 neck crank. Almost as bad as Buentello's one-armed guillotine.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Amy pats fan on June 28, 2014, 11:35:17 PM
http://youtu.be/AOOT_3U4rZM (http://youtu.be/AOOT_3U4rZM)

*died*
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 29, 2014, 07:06:58 AM
Main event made up for the rest of the card which was pretty meh and the all-decision main didn't help matters. Swanson said at the press conference he doesn't want to wait if the winner of Mendes/Aldo comes out of the fight injured and if Aldo retains it's almost guaranteed Cub might have a long layoff. I dig that he wants to keep active but even last night I got nervous when Stephens was bombing on him in the 2nd because I was like "This dude has earned it so much and I don't want to see him lose."

Somebody said on twitter that the statue of limitations on Aldo's double flying knee has expired. I support that motion.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 30, 2014, 01:31:44 AM
Also given how unprofessional he reacted to a headbutt knockout being declared a no contest it was very karmic to see Bedford get tko'd on a shitty ref stoppage. Not that he wasn't out for a second but by the time Hatley called the fight off he'd come to.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: NoCalMike on June 30, 2014, 02:41:05 PM
I might be missing the show Saturday due to committing to a friend's BBQ. It's not even that I don't want to go now, cause I do, I just wish it was a different night now. Dammit.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on July 05, 2014, 08:01:26 AM
Fitch is still the same old Fitch...
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on July 05, 2014, 08:03:48 AM
Had to lol hard at Nubreed pushing "#1 ranked middleweight" Kevin Casey.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 07, 2014, 02:39:53 AM
Felice Herrig almost got booted from the TUF house on the first day of filming for attempting to start a fight with Heather Clark. What a tool.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on July 07, 2014, 02:47:47 AM
Felice Herrig almost got booted from the TUF house on the first day of filming for attempting to start a fight with Heather Clark. What a tool.

I'm going to love this season.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 07, 2014, 02:53:11 AM
What an idiot though. Why would you potentially fuck up a UFC championship by fighting in the house? Even if you don't get matched up during the season UFC would market the fight somewhere down the line, plus they've already fought once. Jesus.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on July 07, 2014, 03:30:15 AM
It's a reality show. I'm willing to bet Dana and Fox love her for the drama she is going to cause.

JUST LET HER BANG, BRO!
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 07, 2014, 03:32:44 AM
Drama is fine but if she fought in the house she'd get the boot, no question. I know Felice isn't the smartest fighter out there but come the fuck on, this is for a UFC championship. Control yourself.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on July 09, 2014, 05:35:39 PM
Big Dave is saying Rashad wants a run in the 'E
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on July 10, 2014, 12:12:05 AM
he'd end up jobbing to Rusex :(
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on July 10, 2014, 08:40:11 AM
Dodson blew his ACL and is out a year.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on July 10, 2014, 08:43:33 AM
Dodson blew his ACL and us out a year.

I was just coming to post this. Sucks. This division is falling on hard times with two of their top contenders out a year, and the flyweight headlined ppv drawing less than Bellator.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on July 10, 2014, 10:17:21 AM
Holly Holm has signed with the UFC.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 10, 2014, 10:20:40 AM
Cheers to the last post. Jeers to the one before that. If Brad Pickett beats Ian McCall I'd figure he gets next, at least they can market the rematch angle.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on July 10, 2014, 10:27:50 AM
Holly Holm is going to knock out some poor girl (probably Jessica Eye) and then get thrown on her head and armbarred.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 11, 2014, 12:36:33 AM
That's actually a really good debut fight for her.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on July 11, 2014, 04:43:12 AM
#givemejoesilvasjob
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 11, 2014, 05:31:44 AM
Nobody wants to see Frank Mir fight Nog for the rest of his career.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Grit, Toughness, Soul, & Spirit on July 11, 2014, 05:35:50 AM
The Ultimate Fighter: Long Island would revitalize the show.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 11, 2014, 05:50:17 AM
A full season of Costa Phillipou beating the shit out of clones of Jared Hamman.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on July 11, 2014, 06:57:07 AM
Can't hate Long Island when some of the best fighters currently are coming out of here.

Like Zack Ryder.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 11, 2014, 07:06:53 AM
Weidman and......?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on July 11, 2014, 07:14:38 AM
Dennis Bermudez, Ryan LaFlare, Costa Phillipou, Chris Algieri, Eddie Gordon, Alp Ozkilic, Aljamain Sterling, Al Iaquinta.

Weidman is obviously the top guy, with Dennis, Ryan and Costa right behind him. Eddie just won TUF. Chris just won a WBO Title and is probably going to fight Pacquiao next. Alp and Aljamain are fighting on this Cowboy/Miller card and are moving up the ranks. Al got choked out, but hes a nice enough guy that needs to sharpen his fight IQ.

There are a couple of other guys moving up the ranks, but no one really hears of them unless they follow Ring of Combat and other promotions in the North East.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 11, 2014, 07:15:50 AM
I'm fucking with you, I know there's a ton of talent out of LI. Weidman is obviously top dog but I think if Bermudez gets past Guida (which I think he will) he should get a top contender fight.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on July 11, 2014, 07:59:58 AM
Does Jon Jones count?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 11, 2014, 08:10:43 AM
Endicott ain't LI, yo.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 12, 2014, 02:24:48 AM
I'm not sure if he actually has a source on this but Greg Savage has said he thinks that the reason Aldo pulled out of 176 is because he was juicing as the announcement of his injury coincides with the CSAC telling the UFC that they wanted to random test fighters.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on July 15, 2014, 08:33:16 AM
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Chad-Mendes-UFC-Featherweight-Champ-Jose-Aldo-Definitely-Uses-PEDs-70579

shit's getting real between these two, love it.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 15, 2014, 08:40:19 AM
He's got some decent points, if I were Mendes I'd do my damndest to make sure the rescheduled fight doesn't take place in Brazil.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on July 15, 2014, 11:54:29 AM
http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/07/15/testosterone-therapy-linked-to-increased-heart-risks-for-men-health-canada/

I think people that actually need it like ViciousFish won't experience these problems to such a degree. But if your body produces regular amounts of testosterone and you're on this shit, it's probably overexerting a bunch of organs in your body.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on July 15, 2014, 12:41:29 PM
I'm on a pretty low dosage (120mg/day) though I do need to get a blood test and get my levels reevaluated by my doctor.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on July 21, 2014, 06:15:38 AM
(http://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/assets/4784588/prideroidcontract_medium.jpg)

After so many years of speculation, we finally have the hardest, most irresponsibly worded piece of proof ever.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 21, 2014, 06:17:30 AM
I can't think of a single PRIDE fighter who physically looks better now then when they were there. Rampage, Wand, Nog, Shogun, Hendo, Vitor....it's a big fucking list.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on July 21, 2014, 10:33:51 AM
http://www.mmaplus.co.uk/article.php?aID=1583&title=luke-barnatt-gives-insight-on-gastelum-he-hasnt-got-a-structured-life-at-the-moment

Kelvin needs to get his shit together if he wants to fulfill his potential.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on July 22, 2014, 03:56:15 AM
http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/7/21/5913373/minotauro-nogueira-i-still-have-what-it-takes-to-fight

 :o
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 22, 2014, 05:52:56 AM
Khabib's knee injury will keep him out of action until early 2015, it'll be interesting to see if they put Cerrone up against somebody like TJ Grant or even rematch him with Bendo/RDA to keep him active or just sit him until Nurmy is ready to fight.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: AA484 on July 22, 2014, 05:57:33 AM
I say match Cerrone up with the winner of Hendo/RDA with the winner getting a shot at whoever comes out the champ in Pettis/Melendez.  I don't think Cerrone should be penalized for Khabib getting injured.  Kind of leaves Josh Thomson in the cold but he's lost to both Henderson and Melendez so give Cerrone a shot at avenging his losses to RDA and Hendo.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 22, 2014, 06:05:29 AM
I'm not certain UFC would want to put Cerrone up against RDA again mainly because RDA could totally win again and their first fight didn't exactly have fans clamouring for a rematch. Even though Cowboy is 0-2 against Bendo enough people thought he won the 1st fight that UFC would just use revisionist history to paint the fight as a rematch rather then third fight.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on July 22, 2014, 07:31:35 AM
Cowboy and Bendo said they don't want to fight again, so I doubt that will happen (not saying it won't, though).

What is wrong with Cowboy vs. Thomson if he wins this weekend?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 22, 2014, 07:38:53 AM
Nothing, I suppose. I've just got Bendo and RDA higher in the rankings but that would be a perfectly awesome fight and if Thomson can claim wins over Nate and Cowboy I have no issues with him getting a title shot especially considering he got boned by the judges against Bendo.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on July 22, 2014, 08:37:12 AM
Why don't Cowboy and Bendo want to fight each other?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on July 22, 2014, 11:43:34 AM
http://youtu.be/S8Ccl5jY9do

Sick discussion of BJJ in MMA strategy/wisdom followed by Eddie teaching Rickson the rubber guard and the both of them breaking it down which is fucking cool.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on July 23, 2014, 03:29:54 AM
Why don't Cowboy and Bendo want to fight each other?

They are friends - they said it after the second WEC fight. But you never know.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 23, 2014, 03:43:50 AM
Bendo doesn't want to hurt his brother in Christ.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on July 24, 2014, 06:28:46 AM
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Report-Olympic-Gold-Medalist-Henry-Cejudo-Negotiating-Contract-with-UFC-71009

Another member of the 2008 Olympic USA Wrestling MMA converts is going to join the UFC. He's the only one with a gold medal out of the whole bunch too.

It's hilarious though that as a lifelong wrestler he has had so many issues trying to make weight.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on July 28, 2014, 04:22:54 AM
Pat Healy, Colton Smith, and three guys we've never heard of have been let go by the UFC
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on July 28, 2014, 04:42:51 AM
As I said before, Smith has to be the worst TUF winner ever. Is this the first time they've cut a TUF winner before the end of his contract?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on July 28, 2014, 04:43:54 AM
The most hilarious thing is that there's at least one other guy from that season who is still on contract. That is probably the worst season ever (sorry Mike).
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 28, 2014, 05:01:45 AM
STAND TALL NEIL MAGNY
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on July 28, 2014, 09:09:23 AM
STAND TALL NEIL MAGNY

I said 'at least' because I figured that Neil was the only one but wasn't sure because their roster is so huge but holy shit, Sam Alvey is fighting in three weeks:

http://mmajunkie.com/events/ufc-fight-night-47

The main card is so bad that we shouldn't even have a thread for it. Also I can't believe Maynard is at the bottom of the card now. McMann's fighting a legit prospect too in what seems to be an early fight. Wth this card is backwards.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on July 28, 2014, 09:17:40 AM
Oh man Bader/OSP is really the main event?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: cheex incarnate on July 28, 2014, 12:58:59 PM
I'm going to my first UFC card in August (Henderson/Dos Anjos) in Tulsa. I've been to a few Bellator fights but never a UFC, so I would've gone regardless, but I was so damn happy that I'm getting that ME, Pyle/Maia, and Thatch/Mein instead of Shawn Jordan in the Co-Main and Smilin' Sam Alvey creeping around somewhere
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 29, 2014, 12:54:23 AM
I've disliked Alvey ever since he got a gift of a decision against Karl Ammasou in Bellator and showed zero humility in a total screwjob victory. Fuck that guy.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on July 29, 2014, 05:58:59 AM
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/7/29/5948937/ufc-fight-night-brasilia-joe-riggs-out-accidental-self-inflicted-gunshot-wound-paulo-thiago-mma-news

Joe Riggs kinda shot himself while cleaning his gun. He's ok, but not fighting as early as planned.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 29, 2014, 07:33:34 AM
Can we laugh about this because he's going to be ok?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on July 29, 2014, 07:53:48 AM
I'd have laughed even if he wasn't ok.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on July 30, 2014, 12:25:02 PM
Kevin Casey and Robert Drysdale both failed drug tests. Something about Casey always bugged me so this was icing on the idiot cake.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on July 30, 2014, 01:24:20 PM
I was really looking forward to Drysdale as some sort of gatekeeper with insane BJJ.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on July 31, 2014, 01:10:59 AM
http://www.sherdog.com/news/pressreleases/ADIDAS-ANNOUNCES-PARTNERSHIP-WITH-UFC-FIGHTER-ROBBIE-LAWLER-71223

I never saw this posted anywhere, good for him. He's getting his training taken care of and probably getting PAID to boot.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 31, 2014, 01:19:09 AM
Kevin Casey and Robert Drysdale both failed drug tests. Something about Casey always bugged me so this was icing on the idiot cake.

Considering Drysdale's original UFC debut was shitcanned due to pissing hot I wouldn't be surprised if they cut him. Not worth the trouble.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on August 04, 2014, 06:04:33 AM
LOL

Jon Jones and Daniel Cormier got into a fist fight during a UFC media event at the MGM Grand. DC shoved Jones who punched him back. They got into a scuffle and fell off the stage.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuNyxy8CQAElyFH.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuNy5riCQAAB16C.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuNyujsCYAExJ6V.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuNyqSYCQAA5ixX.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuNyyYmCYAEnadi.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuNzAm8IgAA5FKH.jpg)

(http://www.nerdonomy.com/wp-content/uploads/tumblr_mezy08dbze1qbm00wo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on August 04, 2014, 06:14:07 AM
There is video and its the greatest thing ever. Poor Dave Sholler.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/8/4/5968131/jon-jones-daniel-cormier-fight-at-ufc-178-media-day (http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/8/4/5968131/jon-jones-daniel-cormier-fight-at-ufc-178-media-day)

(http://i.minus.com/igeyJMXOC9HK4.gif)
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on August 04, 2014, 06:17:22 AM
Chances of that not being staged?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on August 04, 2014, 06:49:35 AM
Far too out of control to be staged.

Can't wait to see DC fuck him up.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on August 04, 2014, 07:52:48 AM
Connor McGregor laughing in the background puts the video over the top.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on August 04, 2014, 08:07:08 AM
How many eye pokes do you think DC took in that 20 seconds?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: NoCalMike on August 04, 2014, 12:21:33 PM
I'm torn. Part of me says "Unprofessional, not good for the growth of a sport trying to shake that kind of "reputation"" the other part of me is grinning ear to ear and can't wait for this fight.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 05, 2014, 01:08:10 AM
DC is going to need to keep his emotions in check if he wants to win this fight. Pretty sure Jones got right up in his face as a test to see how he'd react and he failed. Jones 1, Cormier 0.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Beer Baron on August 05, 2014, 02:28:40 AM
Really? Jones could have played it cool when DC shoved him away. Jones over reacted to that whole situation.

Fuck Jones.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 05, 2014, 02:39:14 AM
Looks, Jones isn't innocent here but DC initiated the shove and if he can't deal with something as basic as Jones getting in his face he might struggle not to fight with emotion when they both step in the cage. Plus Jones chirping him on twitter about his takedown defence being shitty is A+ stuff.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Grit, Toughness, Soul, & Spirit on August 05, 2014, 02:55:30 AM
They are both douches and I hope Gustaffson stomps the winner. That said, this is easily the most entertaining build-up to a title fight in a while.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 05, 2014, 03:03:20 AM
Is Alvarez/Cerrone dead in the water? I figure if that fight was signed they'd have them at the media days instead of Diamond/McGregor.

Edit: Multiple sites have announced the latter as the co-main so I guess they couldn't make a deal with Eddie in time.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on August 06, 2014, 06:04:02 AM
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Report-Former-UFC-Fighter-Josh-Grispi-Charged-for-Suspicion-of-Assault-on-Wife-71611

I felt bad when I saw this overmatched grappler get the shit beaten out of him but:

Quote
The 25-year-old Grispi allegedly assaulted his wife twice in four days and had his pit bull attack her as well.

“It’s the worst case of domestic abuse I’ve ever seen,” police officer Richard Harvey told the Gazette.

Police told the Gazette that they discovered a pot farm, weapons and ammunition upon searching Grispi’s home on Monday. Grispi’s 3-year-old child was found next to “a box of unsecured guns and ammunition” when police arrived.

I kinda wish he ended up facing Aldo after all. Damn.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 06, 2014, 06:12:35 AM
Shoutout to Poirier and Roop for beating that douchebag down.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on August 06, 2014, 06:19:29 AM
http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/showthread.php?p=97671789#post97671789

If he were a white American this would be a lot worse, Koreans don't have a history of enslaving black people or anything. I find it hilarious in the sense that he's an Asian who is probably super ignorant about how this looks and thought it was okay.

Still though, this is p. bad and really offensive and I'm sure he'll get reprimanded for it.

EDIT: Wait it looks like this was professionally produced by the UFC's Asia division or something, not a personally made video. Jesus, that makes it so much worse.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 06, 2014, 07:26:47 AM
Looks like the NSAC are sticking to their guns on Chael competing in Metamoris. He'll be fined 250K if he participates against Andre Galvao.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Brodypedia on August 07, 2014, 01:19:41 AM
Meltz says Mike Goldberg is going to do some NFL games for Fox this year. 
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on August 07, 2014, 01:29:13 AM
LIRL CANT WAIT
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on August 07, 2014, 01:49:43 AM
He has some experience at least so it shouldn't be a complete debacłe but will still be weird hearing him call games.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 07, 2014, 01:59:11 AM
Wonder who he'll call the Michael Jordan of football.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 07, 2014, 03:09:27 AM
BEN SAUNDERS BACK IN THE UFC FUCK YES.

SAUNDERS/THATCH
SAUNDERS/LIM
SAUNDERS/MATT BROWN

SO MUCH V.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on August 07, 2014, 05:36:55 AM
Killa B in the HOUSE~@!
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on August 08, 2014, 12:40:44 AM
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Report-Former-UFC-Fighter-Josh-Grispi-Charged-for-Suspicion-of-Assault-on-Wife-71611

Quote

Today we have new information in the form of transcripts from text messages where Josh threatened his wife prior to the most recent incident in which he allegedly beat her and had his pit bull attack her.

Check it: (Via: Middleborough’s “Wicked Local”)
“UR (expletive) dead and if u even try n bring my kids into it the worse it will b for u and if u try and make a seen (sic) I’ll choke u unconscious and smash ur throat and if u get worse n run around after I’m goin to let Buddy have at u and I’ll walk out of the room.”

“Don’t cure (sic) you whore, That’s all u think abor (sic) ur a (expletive) scum bag piece of (expletive) who I’m goin enjoy choking to death.”

“U better not b bluffing about cops cuz I don’t joke ur dead when I see u… Literally. I don’t care I’m going to beat u n throw u to buddy, Ur dead.”

welp
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on August 08, 2014, 12:41:40 AM
Also, Weedman posted a pic of Vitor before and after TRT:

(http://scontent-a-ord.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfa1/t51.2885-15/10598234_952425761438981_1621893590_n.jpg)

Yeah he's definitely getting smashed.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on August 08, 2014, 12:55:13 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-cagewriter/josh-koshceck-announced-as-ufc-television-broadcaster-024138557.html

I don't know about this one, he kinda sounds like those douchebag meatheads whenever he talks. Reminds me of those bullies who aren't that witty but will laugh at their own dick and fart jokes.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 08, 2014, 02:08:00 AM
Former Bellator BW champ Joe Soto won his 5th in a row last night at TPF in Cali and with the UFC 135 lb. division being a total wasteland right now in terms of contenders Sean Shelby needs to holler at this dude and ink him.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on August 08, 2014, 12:04:16 PM
I love War Machine. He's such a fucking train wreck.

He's currently wanted by Vegas police for a "3 person altercation" that left 2 people (one of whom is Christy Mack) with severe, non life threatening injuries.

I can't wait to hear how this is everyone but his fault.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on August 09, 2014, 02:37:16 PM
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Barnett quickly latches on a side choke from the scarf position. It’s very deep. With about 15 seconds left in the fight, Lister needs to escape right now. It’s very deep. Lister can’t break free. With the arm fully trapped, Lister is forced to tap out. Barnett is the first man in over 16 years to submit Dean Lister in grappling/BJJ competition, capturing the Metamoris heavyweight crown.

holy shit this is a big deal. size advantage or not, this might be one of the most impressive things Josh has ever done.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: AA484 on August 09, 2014, 02:56:45 PM
I've always liked Barnett, just because he seems like he has always been working the meathead MMA fanbase.  I love it.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on August 09, 2014, 04:25:58 PM
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Barnett quickly latches on a side choke from the scarf position. It’s very deep. With about 15 seconds left in the fight, Lister needs to escape right now. It’s very deep. Lister can’t break free. With the arm fully trapped, Lister is forced to tap out. Barnett is the first man in over 16 years to submit Dean Lister in grappling/BJJ competition, capturing the Metamoris heavyweight crown.

holy shit this is a big deal. size advantage or not, this might be one of the most impressive things Josh has ever done.

The size advantage was about 30-40 pounds. He looked massive compared to Lister. But yeah, it was pretty cool thing to see happen......AFTER 19 MINUTES AND 48 SECONDS.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on August 10, 2014, 03:08:05 PM
War Machine is tweeting again. Last three.

@WarMachine170: I'm not a bad guy, I went to surprise my gf, help her set up her show and to give her an engagement ring and ended up fighting for my life.

@WarMachine170: The cops will never give me fair play, never believe me. Still deciding what to do but at the end of the day it's all just heart breaking.

@WarMachine170: I only wish that man hadn't been there and that Christy & I would behappily engaged.I don't know y I'm so cursed.One day truth will come out
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on August 10, 2014, 03:24:15 PM
On the run and still tweeting. What a fucking idiot.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on August 10, 2014, 05:26:33 PM
Doesn't this make the third time hes gone on the run for something and continued to tweet anyways?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 11, 2014, 02:04:07 AM
Marina Shafir was KO'd over the weekend so yeah, there goes that whole "Rousey's 4 Horseman are taking over" idiocy that's been circulating for a while and once Correira beats Bayszler it's all over.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on August 11, 2014, 08:26:28 AM
498937852382965761[/tweet]] (http://[tweet)[/url]

Warmachine beat the fuck out of her. Barring his death (which wouldn't surprise me), he's going away a long time.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on August 11, 2014, 04:22:29 PM
He fucked her up pretty badly. Broken bones in the face. Smashed her teeth out. This guy has never been mentally stable. I think we're better off with him locked up forever.

Currently a $10,000 reward out for his capture.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on August 12, 2014, 02:56:30 PM
Dog The Bounty Hunter is after this guy and Corey from "Pawnstars" has offered a $10,000 reward. D-list celebrities to the rescue!
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on August 13, 2014, 06:56:33 AM
http://www.mmamania.com/2014/8/12/5996759/exlusive-dog-bounty-hunter-claims-hes-close-to-war-machine-arrest

lol this dude sounds p. serious. It sounds like he's close to getting him too. He's good at his job, I'd love to see footage of him finding and arresting War Machine.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 13, 2014, 07:01:36 AM
Dog has been calling in favours within the mma community all over Hawaii to see who'll snitch on WM's location.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on August 13, 2014, 07:02:17 AM
http://www.mmamania.com/2014/8/12/5996759/exlusive-dog-bounty-hunter-claims-hes-close-to-war-machine-arrest

lol this dude sounds p. serious. It sounds like he's close to getting him too. He's good at his job, I'd love to see footage of him finding and arresting War Machine.

If he arrests him and they show it on TV in the future I'll be beatin'.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Grit, Toughness, Soul, & Spirit on August 13, 2014, 07:13:13 AM
Quote

I talked to Mark this morning about the recent events related to War Machine. As some of you may know Jon Koppenhaver "War Machine" fought one of his first fights before going on The Ultimate Fighter in Gracie Fighting Championships-representing Team Hammer House. Mark was in shock by what War Machine is being accused of and ask me if it was at all possible that Christy may have simply fallen down on a knife? I told him where to check out pictures and he said her leg looks like his did after Maurice Smith. Needless to say the Hammer was disgusted with your actions Machine! Now come out from Ken Pavia's basement and turn yourself over to
Dog
!

- Wes Sims

SICK THE HAMMER ON HIM
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 13, 2014, 07:14:53 AM
If mma was the Game of Thrones universe Mark Coleman would be Hodor.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on August 13, 2014, 07:18:27 AM
ask me if it was at all possible that Christy may have simply fallen down on a knife?

LOL EARNEST MARK DOESNT WANT TO BELIEVE BUT NOW YOU DONE FUCKED UP WAR MACHINE
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 13, 2014, 07:27:28 AM
I can picture Sims and Randleman sitting him down like two parents trying to tell their child that their dog died and the kid just doesn't want to believe it.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on August 13, 2014, 07:29:56 AM
did she fall on the knife? lol
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 13, 2014, 07:34:56 AM
Mike King popped for nandrolone and has had his 50K FOTN bonus revoked. What a clown.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on August 13, 2014, 02:26:29 PM
Bocek proven more correct as the days go on.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 14, 2014, 12:57:36 AM
To the best of my knowledge nandrolone is a highly detectable chemical component so King is a fucking moron for using something like that. This ain't something it would take VADA testing to uncover.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Just Call Me Dan on August 14, 2014, 02:37:40 AM
They cut him too.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on August 14, 2014, 07:18:54 AM
Every time so,done get popped for Nandralone, all I can picture is the build to Penn/Sherk and BJ yelling "Nandralone" every time he hit the bag.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 14, 2014, 07:29:14 AM
Cathal Pendred gets the 50K awarded to King and is being a cool dude by donating a portion of it to a childrens hospital.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on August 15, 2014, 09:25:36 AM
War Machine has been captured in Simi Valley, CA.


http://m.tmz.com/#Article/2014/08/15/war-machine-captured-simi-valley-christy-mack-girlfriend-beating-las-vegas
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on August 15, 2014, 02:32:22 PM
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Dog the Bounty Hunter was also there.

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/FJbmB9k2Y88/maxresdefault.jpg)

Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 16, 2014, 02:09:21 AM
Why are people shitting on the Bader/OSP card tonight? It's not bad at all.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Beer Baron on August 16, 2014, 02:14:04 AM
Why are people shitting on the Bader/OSP card tonight? It's not bad at all.

(http://i49.tinypic.com/245kp51.gif)
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on August 16, 2014, 04:08:31 AM
The top three fights are all decent matchups but between fringe top 20 guys. On top of that Boestch, Bader and Maynard are all on the downswing of their careers and have been blown out multiple times by legit competition. It's hard to get excited about any of those fights with that in mind. It's not bad for a free card, but it needed a legit main event. Then you throw in the fact that you have guys like Nolan Ticman on the undercard, someone who hasn't fought in nearly two years and has a 4-1 record against subpar competition. He might be the next Jose Aldo but he doesn't deserve to be in the UFC at this point. And of course, SMILIN SAM.

Really, other than hoping OSP is for real and a real threat for McMann, I just wanna see some action-packed fights.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on August 16, 2014, 04:18:25 AM
http://mmajunkie.com/2014/08/ufc-vet-krzysztof-soszynski-citing-memory-loss-announces-mma-retirement

This is p. scary considering he's not even a guy that has been in that many wars. Then again, he's been finished a few times and also did a bunch of pro wrestling. It's further proof that the sparring and gym wars are what really do it. Some of the things he's talking about as being 'little issues' would scare the shit out of me.

Stuff like this shows that a LOT more of these guys are going to end up with problems that we aren't aware of. It's not surprising, but it's still p. sad.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on August 16, 2014, 09:48:18 AM
anyway, I'll be in the chat for this one regardless.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on August 16, 2014, 09:56:11 AM
No matter how hard the UFC is trying to push this "FINALLY REACHING HIS FULL POTENTIAL" Ryan Bader as a fringe challenger to the LHW title a year or two down the line if he can beat OSP... I just have no interest in watching a show where he's in the main event.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on August 16, 2014, 10:15:34 AM
Yeah, I'm going to watch boxing instead.

DEONTAY WILDER THE NEXT GOAT HEAVYWEIGHT IS FIGHTING
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on August 16, 2014, 11:15:39 AM
This Nolan fella looks to be better but the layoff is hurting him. Finally shows some life at the end of this round.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on August 16, 2014, 11:16:50 AM
HUGHES IS RINGSIDE TO MAKE UP FOR BIG TIM NOT BEING THERE.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on August 16, 2014, 11:21:49 AM
He might be the next Jose Aldo but he doesn't deserve to be in the UFC at this point.

Nailed that one.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on August 16, 2014, 11:28:26 AM
Yep, he's obviously talented but very raw and the layoff just made it bad news for him. Saenz is a smart grappler who is on a roll, good win.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on August 16, 2014, 11:38:52 AM
More like Smilin Sam Rapey. When he has a straight expression, he looks rapey, when he smiles, he rivals Axel for the rapiest smile in sports/entertainment.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on August 16, 2014, 12:00:48 PM
sweet little war there, this event is lookin' p. good so far.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on August 16, 2014, 12:11:05 PM
This Murphy lady has a good defensive guard, like her strikes from the bottom too. Would give her the round so far, but you know how these judges be.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on August 16, 2014, 01:42:44 PM
Tavares looked amazing at 145. I'd like to see him fight a live opponent before getting hyped though.

Jordan needs to retire. How many times do we have to see this former football player, whose jaw was obviously dusted far before he stepped into MMA, get dazed before we realize he'll never amount to anything worthwhile? It's a shame as he's so talented but it is what it is.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on August 16, 2014, 02:09:12 PM
Holy fuck. Thought Jouban was cooked.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on August 16, 2014, 02:12:05 PM
Wild fight.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on August 16, 2014, 02:39:26 PM
COMEBACK KING
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on August 16, 2014, 02:40:08 PM
BARBARIAN THANK YOU GAWWWD
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on August 16, 2014, 03:07:31 PM
Maynard needs to consider retirement. Frankie stole his chin.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on August 16, 2014, 03:10:46 PM
He was looking for a way out with the way he turned away. Then I saw him try to tap too, he obviously doesn't want to fight anymore. Needs to retire. He's been brutally KO'd like four times in five fights.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Beer Baron on August 16, 2014, 03:35:02 PM
Is this fight being held in a bingo hall?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on August 16, 2014, 03:55:13 PM
OSP has lots of talent but he seems so gunshy, and Bader does nothing interesting with these takedowns. This fight blows.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on August 16, 2014, 04:11:19 PM
That main event depressed the shit out of me. Bah.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on August 16, 2014, 04:29:01 PM
Kind of saw it playing out that way for whatever reason. Other than that though pretty decent little card.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on August 16, 2014, 04:35:43 PM
Decent show. I didn't mind seeing OSP lose. Showboating drives me nuts. Especially when you're not doing much to go with it.

Jon Anik said this during Jordan's fight. I rewound it so that I could get the exact wtf quote.

"And how about the thighs on Shawn Jordan. He makes Major League Baseball catchers look like they don't have big thighs. "

What?!

Maynard has now been knocked out in four out of his last five.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on August 16, 2014, 04:54:12 PM
Lol yeah that Anik quote was right out of the Goldberg School of Announcing.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 17, 2014, 01:25:23 AM
BOETSCH FINNA BOETSCH. Made the night.

Also there was something ridiculously endearing about seeing Thiago Tavares refuse the translator and stammer his way through the post-fight interview just to get his point across and ask UFC to hire a teammate.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 19, 2014, 06:22:07 AM
Eddie Alvarez is officially a free agent signed to the UFC.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on August 20, 2014, 02:04:05 PM
Cowboy just put up his address on Twitter. First stalker will be?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Beer Baron on August 20, 2014, 02:56:53 PM
Cowboy just put up his address on Twitter. First stalker will be?

(http://www.bjpenn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/NATE-DIAZ-Finger.jpg)
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on August 21, 2014, 03:49:14 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/b7WbPX1.png)

Looks like we have a new, "Vitor in Brazil"

Though I'll be stunned if Cung can beat Bisping even with the help of his Macau Supplements on Saturday.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Grit, Toughness, Soul, & Spirit on August 21, 2014, 03:52:04 PM
that's fucking gross

his body looks like Quark from Star Trek
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 22, 2014, 12:49:22 AM
Bisping/Le is such a shite fight to have to pick. Despite looking like dogshit against Kennedy I still think Bisping should be able to win but Le was getting trashed by Franklin before pulling a ko punch out of his back pocket and it's totally conceiveable he could do the same thing here. I really wish Lombard/Kim had stayed intact and was the main.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 22, 2014, 06:06:03 AM
Brian Ortega is the newest member of the Pissed Hot Club. Win over Mike de La Torre changed to a NC, fined $2500 and suspended 9 months. Ortega is the 2nd member of Black House to fail a drug test recently, the other being Kevin Casey and it was for the same drug.

So far this year we've had Wand, Chael, Vitor, Casey, Drysdale, King, Ortega...I feel like I'm missing a few names for sure. It's kinda been a shitty year when the biggest stories for mma have been oversaturation of product/shitty cards, injuries and steroids.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 23, 2014, 03:53:10 AM
Anybody picking Jordan Mein tonight (myself included) might want to reconsider it seeing as how his dad got arrested at the weigh-ins yesterday for sexual battery. Can't imagine the mental state is going to be very sharp going in and this is already a fighter that's prone to those lapses during the fight.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Mildly Threatening Damon on August 23, 2014, 04:30:30 AM
Submission Saturday.  Every Saturday, I'll post a video of one of my favorite submissions.  I'll try to post rare, or more obscure submissions.  Perhaps you all can post a "submission theme" and I'll find one that fits.  First up is Jessica Eye absolutely CRUSHING Zoila Gurgel (Frausto) with a standing Arm Triangle.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U537uIY6i8c
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 23, 2014, 04:34:47 AM
Yeah that's a nice one. Eye is super cute, it's a shame her image took the hit it did when she melted down after smoking the reefer.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Mildly Threatening Damon on August 23, 2014, 05:55:27 PM
AMMY Eye back in the mid-late 2000s (before she bulked up a bit) used to melt this midwestern boy's heart.

I mean, she can still get it. 
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 25, 2014, 01:58:39 AM
(http://giant.gfycat.com/MarvelousWhiteKoodoo.gif)

BRUH.

And that's your KO of the Year for 2014.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: MikeofEvil on August 25, 2014, 07:06:47 AM
Do you know the name of the owner of that beaut of a kick?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 25, 2014, 07:07:35 AM
Christine Stanley.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on August 26, 2014, 07:43:23 AM
Surprised there wasn't more discussion on Dana removing a seemingly incompetent judge from the Macau card on Saturday. Yay or nay to that?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 26, 2014, 07:51:49 AM
Can it be both? I think they did the right thing initially but the follow-up in their press release mentioning that they look forward to working with him at future events is just straight up wrong. I mean, you removed the guy for a reason, don't make like everything is cool now.

It does set a sketchy precedent because people will start to scrutinize whether or not UFC is removing a judge because he's not doing their job correctly or because they are scoring fights in favor of guys UFC don't want to win. I admittedly did not see any of the fights on the card but I recall reading a few PBP's of the womens fight and not a single person scored the fight for Dudeiva.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Beer Baron on August 26, 2014, 03:20:18 PM
Dana never had the authority to do that anyways, but it'll never happen in the US, Canada or any nation with a sanctioning body that assigns the refs and judges. Macau doesn't have a sanctioning body, so the UFC  (and boxing promotions) can hire whoever they feel pleased to do the job.

Howard Hughes, the judge, has been on several UFC cards as well, all of them overseas, and yet this card it seems he was fucking up majorly.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 27, 2014, 01:00:05 AM
But he wasn't, that's the thing. Dana got fed bad info about who had scored what fight for who and flew off the handle, went out and removed Hughes.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Mildly Threatening Damon on August 30, 2014, 10:37:43 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VQR1SnBwv4

Submission Saturday returns with Pat Curran and the Peruvian Necktie. Bonus points for using it on someone from Peru.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on September 01, 2014, 01:44:21 PM
Been watching lots of old ufc, mid to late 90s, and it's insane the jump in fighter quality that took place in 97 and 98.  Just finished watching frank shamrock vs john lober from UFC Brazil and frank was the state of the art at this time, it's crazy to watch.  What happened in this time period that caused a Great Leap Forward?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 02, 2014, 12:51:16 AM
Better steroids and the rise of nu-metal.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 02, 2014, 06:39:34 AM
Mousasi/Jacare card isn't being show in Canada this Friday.

What the fuck. What. The. Fuck.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on September 02, 2014, 07:20:27 AM
Fucking bullshit
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 02, 2014, 07:24:23 AM
They have, like, a billion channels to show WWE and baseball on. DON'T PICK THE ONE EXCLUSIVELY DEDICATED TO MMA GODDAMNIT.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Beer Baron on September 02, 2014, 07:48:18 AM
Fight Pass?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 02, 2014, 08:00:18 AM
I don't have it but yeah, it'll be on there. UFC should try putting the screws to Rogers otherwise the majority of your Canadian market will be tuning into Bellator that night.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Beer Baron on September 02, 2014, 08:04:06 AM
I don't have it but yeah, it'll be on there. UFC should try putting the screws to Rogers otherwise the majority of your Canadian market will be tuning into the Blue Jays that night.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 02, 2014, 08:13:25 AM
The Jays suck and have sucked for a while, on the brink of being mathematically eliminated. Fuck 'em.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 03, 2014, 06:11:22 AM
War Machine is facing 32 felony charges including attempted murder.

http://mmajunkie.com/2014/09/war-machine-facing-32-felony-charges-including-attempted-murder?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Beer Baron on September 06, 2014, 08:55:03 AM
Thiago Silva is back in the UFC after his wife fled the country and all of his assault charges have been dropped
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 08, 2014, 08:00:53 AM
Luckily for the UFC the NFL looks way worse for their handling of the Ray Rice situation so nobody's talking about Silva.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on September 08, 2014, 08:57:40 AM
Yeah, but someone is going to mention it and Dana's going to open his mouth and say something stupid.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 09, 2014, 12:25:11 AM
http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/9/9/6125107/morning-report-ufc-joe-rogan-jon-jones-racism-chael-sonnen-dana-white-tuf-20-mma-news

Rogan is getting a lot of heat for this on the net. I think he's right to an extent; there are a lot of legitimate reasons to hate on Jon Jones, but the irrational dislike he's gotten even before a lot of that other stuff was revealed and some of the words that people used like 'cocky' before he ever did anything all that cocky were questionable. The comparison to Chael's actions is a good one.

Most of the people that are hating Rogan online are dumb though, typical "But I like (insert black fighter here)" kind of stuff. You could easily say that Rampage was well-liked because he panders to the caricature that people like to be entertained by when it comes to black people (most never appreciated his true wit, he was just that 'ghetto black guy'). Cormier is humble which is 'how black people are supposed to act'. Jon fits neither of those stereotypes; he's an intelligent young man who sticks up for himself to Dana (another no-no, black people are supposed to know their role and be thankful that they have it) and is vocal about all of that. That will make racists with issues towards black people hate you for sure. Hashad is thought to be 'cocky' as well, and he was hated by many too.

And I say all that as someone who doesn't really like either Hashad or Jones, which would be an obvious incentive for me not to think that racism is at the root of the hate for these guys, as that might implicate myself. I dislike Jones because he seems fake, comes off as as a douche. I don't like Hashad because he never lives up to his potential and always seems gunshy in big fights, I hate fighters who don't perform up to their own standard. But I'd be kidding myself if I didn't think racism was a factor for some people with these two.

It's funny that people in the chat thought Joe was racist before, he wouldn't have the balls to say stuff like this if that were the case.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 09, 2014, 12:57:59 AM
I'd think most of the hatred towards Rashad stems from him deading Chuck aka The Fighter White Supremacists Enjoy Most (probably, can't think of many others).
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 09, 2014, 01:55:32 AM
Him and Fedor, probably. The comments when Fedor destroyed Zulu, oh man.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 09, 2014, 02:31:52 AM
I can't see anyone beating Chuck out in terms of Aryan Brotherhood love. He could have guest starred on season two of Sons of Anarchy along with Henry Rollins and would have fit right in.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 09, 2014, 10:00:20 AM
http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/9/9/6125107/morning-report-ufc-joe-rogan-jon-jones-racism-chael-sonnen-dana-white-tuf-20-mma-news

Rogan is getting a lot of heat for this on the net. I think he's right to an extent; there are a lot of legitimate reasons to hate on Jon Jones, but the irrational dislike he's gotten even before a lot of that other stuff was revealed and some of the words that people used like 'cocky' before he ever did anything all that cocky were questionable. The comparison to Chael's actions is a good one.

Most of the people that are hating Rogan online are dumb though, typical "But I like (insert black fighter here)" kind of stuff. You could easily say that Rampage was well-liked because he panders to the caricature that people like to be entertained by when it comes to black people (most never appreciated his true wit, he was just that 'ghetto black guy'). Cormier is humble which is 'how black people are supposed to act'. Jon fits neither of those stereotypes; he's an intelligent young man who sticks up for himself to Dana (another no-no, black people are supposed to know their role and be thankful that they have it) and is vocal about all of that. That will make racists with issues towards black people hate you for sure. Hashad is thought to be 'cocky' as well, and he was hated by many too.

And I say all that as someone who doesn't really like either Hashad or Jones, which would be an obvious incentive for me not to think that racism is at the root of the hate for these guys, as that might implicate myself. I dislike Jones because he seems fake, comes off as as a douche. I don't like Hashad because he never lives up to his potential and always seems gunshy in big fights, I hate fighters who don't perform up to their own standard. But I'd be kidding myself if I didn't think racism was a factor for some people with these two.

It's funny that people in the chat thought Joe was racist before, he wouldn't have the balls to say stuff like this if that were the case.

My response to this

FrontRowBrian ‏@FrontRowBrian  6m
Ronda Rousey is booed more at live events than Jon Jones. Must be that racial thing against white girls with long blonde hair and light eyes
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on September 09, 2014, 11:24:51 AM
Plenty of white fighters fill the villain roll as well. Jon Jones isn't liked because he appears to be an awful human being.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Mildly Threatening Damon on September 09, 2014, 12:19:06 PM
http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/9/9/6125107/morning-report-ufc-joe-rogan-jon-jones-racism-chael-sonnen-dana-white-tuf-20-mma-news

Rogan is getting a lot of heat for this on the net. I think he's right to an extent; there are a lot of legitimate reasons to hate on Jon Jones, but the irrational dislike he's gotten even before a lot of that other stuff was revealed and some of the words that people used like 'cocky' before he ever did anything all that cocky were questionable. The comparison to Chael's actions is a good one.

Most of the people that are hating Rogan online are dumb though, typical "But I like (insert black fighter here)" kind of stuff. You could easily say that Rampage was well-liked because he panders to the caricature that people like to be entertained by when it comes to black people (most never appreciated his true wit, he was just that 'ghetto black guy'). Cormier is humble which is 'how black people are supposed to act'. Jon fits neither of those stereotypes; he's an intelligent young man who sticks up for himself to Dana (another no-no, black people are supposed to know their role and be thankful that they have it) and is vocal about all of that. That will make racists with issues towards black people hate you for sure. Hashad is thought to be 'cocky' as well, and he was hated by many too.

And I say all that as someone who doesn't really like either Hashad or Jones, which would be an obvious incentive for me not to think that racism is at the root of the hate for these guys, as that might implicate myself. I dislike Jones because he seems fake, comes off as as a douche. I don't like Hashad because he never lives up to his potential and always seems gunshy in big fights, I hate fighters who don't perform up to their own standard. But I'd be kidding myself if I didn't think racism was a factor for some people with these two.

It's funny that people in the chat thought Joe was racist before, he wouldn't have the balls to say stuff like this if that were the case.

My response to this

FrontRowBrian ‏@FrontRowBrian  6m
Ronda Rousey is booed more at live events than Jon Jones. Must be that racial thing against white girls with long blonde hair and light eyes

"I hate Rousey, that stupid half Venezuelan bitch!"

But, yeah, I'm in the "Jones isn't liked because he seems to be a bit of a jerk" camp.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 09, 2014, 02:31:52 PM
"hey they hate this guy more" and "there are reasons to hate this person that have nothing to do with his skin" don't really change what I said. Also, FrontRowBrian, and I love 'em, we used to post on the same message board back in the day, is one of the most insensitive guys around. He also placed some blame on Christy Mack in the War Machine incident, do you agree with him there too? He's best friends with Chael, of course he's not going to believe race has anything to do with it. Booing at live events is a narrow view of what the issue is. Just look at all the people online that say coded things about Jones, it's not that hard to find them.

Like I said, there are plenty of reasons to hate on Jon, but if you don't think a sizable number of people dislike him for subtly racial reasons then I don't know. Jon Jones was the villain before he started acting like one. The same people who agree with Chael that Brazilian kids learn how to grow up in the mud or whatever are the same people that don't like Jon Jones for being cocky, or not being a company man, or whatever. The fact that so many fans buy into that shit shows that a sizable amount of people already have racist tendencies. I'm not saying race is the SOLE reason that EVERYONE hates him, which is what others seem to be implying. But saying "he's an asshole, that's why he's hated" is a horseshit argument because while he may be an asshole (I'm not saying he is or he isn't), it doesn't mean that there aren't a lot of other white assholes who don't get the same kind of hatred, and it doesn't mean that some people look at him through a different lens, with different standards.

Also, Ronda Rousey actively plays up the heel schtick, calling herself a heel even, of course she'll be booed. That's way different than Jon who until recently always tried to act in the right way. Matt Hughes was way cockier, way more of an asshole, and talked way more shit about his opponents. Everyone loved him and they still do really. I can point out plenty of examples like that.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 09, 2014, 02:36:48 PM
"hey they hate this guy more" and "there are reasons to hate this person that have nothing to do with his skin" don't really change what I said. Also, FrontRowBrian, and I love 'em, we used to post on the same message board back in the day, is one of the most insensitive guys around. He also placed some blame on Christy Mack in the War Machine incident, do you agree with him there too? He's best friends with Chael, of course he's not going to believe race has anything to do with it. Booing at live events is a narrow view of what the issue is. Just look at all the people online that say coded things about Jones, it's not that hard to find them.

Like I said, there are plenty of reasons to hate on Jon, but if you don't think a sizable number of people dislike him for subtly racial reasons then I don't know. Jon Jones was the villain before he started acting like one. The same people who agree with Chael that Brazilian kids learn how to grow up in the mud or whatever are the same people that don't like Jon Jones for being cocky, or not being a company man, or whatever. The fact that so many fans buy into that shit shows that a sizable amount of people already have racist tendencies. I'm not saying race is the SOLE reason that EVERYONE hates him, which is what others seem to be implying. But saying "he's an asshole, that's why he's hated" is a horseshit argument because while he may be an asshole (I'm not saying he is or he isn't), it doesn't mean that there aren't a lot of other white assholes who don't get the same kind of hatred, and it doesn't mean that some people look at him through a different lens, with different standards.

Also, Ronda Rousey actively plays up the heel schtick, calling herself a heel even, of course she'll be booed. That's way different than Jon who until recently always tried to act in the right way. Matt Hughes was way cockier, way more of an asshole, and talked way more shit about his opponents. Everyone loved him and they still do really. I can point out plenty of examples like that.

Nah, I don't even read Front Row Brian. It just so happened that I saw that tweet while reading this thread.

I always hate the anointed top guys, that's most of what it is for me. And now, his behavior makes it more easy to hate him or more easily justifiable. It's not his cockiness, but I don't like how he portrays himself as being an honest guy while not being one. And if you have scripture tattooed on your chest, you better act like that all the time. You can't wash it off.

Now granted, I don't know about that not a company man stuff, when he became sponsored by the UFC (what kind of BS was this, anyway), that sure looked like a company man to me. That's part of what started this train going from my perspective.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 09, 2014, 02:43:27 PM
Right, and I'm not saying that anyone here is racist, because I've never seen anything that would indicate that. I can see why some might take that personally. Like I said, I don't like Jon either for his fakeness. But I'm saying that with some people that I've read on Sherdog and comments I've seen on MMA articles, there's a weird dislike for him that is very questionable. It's like people get mad at him for not living up to a standard, being cocky, the usual stuff that old white guys say about young black athletes. Though those people aren't that old.

C'mon guys, this is the same company who until recently described every black fighter as being 'explosive' and 'naturally athletic'. It's not hard to see that some people in this sport have obvious racial biases, and it's not hard to find it odd that one of the most talented and gifted fighters ever doesn't get much dap for what he does in the cage because people are too busy ripping his personality outside it. Is there any other athlete at his level in this sport that has more shit talked about him for his exploits outside the cage? He's unreal in his fights, but all people seem to talk about is his personality. He's not THAT bad, so it's weird that some are so obsessed with denigrating his character.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 09, 2014, 02:45:28 PM
The 'not a company man' stuff started with him saying Chael didn't deserve to fight him on eight days notice. I thought he should have taken the fight as a fighter's fighter, but I don't blame him for not wanting to abide by that ridiculous standard as changing a fight like that last minute is a big deal, Floyd or Pac or B-Hop would never put up with that shit. The amount of people that said he should have done the right thing by the company, that they 'own' him, shit like that.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 09, 2014, 02:57:14 PM
Right, and I'm not saying that anyone here is racist, because I've never seen anything that would indicate that. I can see why some might take that personally. Like I said, I don't like Jon either for his fakeness. But I'm saying that with some people that I've read on Sherdog and comments I've seen on MMA articles, there's a weird dislike for him that is very questionable. It's like people get mad at him for not living up to a standard, being cocky, the usual stuff that old white guys say about young black athletes. Though those people aren't that old.

I'm gonna drop this in here because I know it's unlikely that people will read it, but you even see that attitude in some other threads here. Specifically with regard to one Mr. Newton. These quasi-racist beliefs start to pop in when you notice that people refuse to acknowledge the talent that somebody has in lieu of simply shitting on their character. It's possible to believe that someone is a great player/fighter/talent and think they have attitude problems, but when the lack of ability is acknowledged, that's generally where you can see the disconnect.

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C'mon guys, this is the same company who until recently described every black fighter as being 'explosive' and 'naturally athletic'. It's not hard to see that some people in this sport have obvious racial biases, and it's not hard to find it odd that one of the most talented and gifted fighters ever doesn't get much dap for what he does in the cage because people are too busy ripping his personality outside it. Is there any other athlete at his level in this sport that has more shit talked about him for his exploits outside the cage? He's unreal in his fights, but all people seem to talk about is his personality. He's not THAT bad, so it's weird that some are so obsessed with denigrating his character.

They still do describe every black fighter as being naturally athletic, I believe. That line gets dropped in during Cormier's fights too.

The 'not a company man' stuff started with him saying Chael didn't deserve to fight him on eight days notice. I thought he should have taken the fight as a fighter's fighter, but I don't blame him for not wanting to abide by that ridiculous standard as changing a fight like that last minute is a big deal, Floyd or Pac or B-Hop would never put up with that shit. The amount of people that said he should have done the right thing by the company, that they 'own' him, shit like that.

I just read through that thread out of curiosity. The whole situation was weird, and considering the flack the UFC takes for putting on one fight cards now, it's really weird to see people lobbying for a one fight (you can't even call that a fight, really) card then.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 09, 2014, 03:02:18 PM
I'm gonna drop this in here because I know it's unlikely that people will read it, but you even see that attitude in some other threads here. Specifically with regard to one Mr. Newton. These quasi-racist beliefs start to pop in when you notice that people refuse to acknowledge the talent that somebody has in lieu of simply shitting on their character. It's possible to believe that someone is a great player/fighter/talent and think they have attitude problems, but when the lack of ability is acknowledged, that's generally where you can see the disconnect.

That first part confuses me, where else would you drop it and why wouldn't people read it? Also, which Newton, Emanuel or Carlos?

I agree completely with the rest of that btw, excellent point. When people overlook a person's ability, the stuff that makes us want to watch in the first place, just to rip on the guy's character, it's mad suspect. Why are you so focused on who he is as a person when the whole reason you're supposed to care is because of what he can do as an athlete?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 09, 2014, 03:04:37 PM
I'm gonna drop this in here because I know it's unlikely that people will read it, but you even see that attitude in some other threads here. Specifically with regard to one Mr. Newton. These quasi-racist beliefs start to pop in when you notice that people refuse to acknowledge the talent that somebody has in lieu of simply shitting on their character. It's possible to believe that someone is a great player/fighter/talent and think they have attitude problems, but when the lack of ability is acknowledged, that's generally where you can see the disconnect.

That first part confuses me, where else would you drop it and why wouldn't people read it? Also, which Newton, Emanuel or Carlos?

I agree completely with the rest of that btw, excellent point. When people overlook a person's ability, the stuff that makes us want to watch in the first place, just to rip on the guy's character, it's mad suspect. Why are you so focused on who he is as a person when the whole reason you're supposed to care is because of what he can do as an athlete?

CAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMM
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on September 09, 2014, 03:21:26 PM
lirl Cam Newton is awful everyone knows this. Watched three games of his... he sucks & needs to stop thinking he's Superman.

Also I just never liked Jones from the way how it gets brought up always thru the grapevines how he's treated his fellow wrestlers who have turned to MMA and are not in the Greg Jackson camp when they were unknowns to most fans outside of the hardcore fans... especially if they came from a prestigious school or had a chance at the Olympics. Then when Greg Jackson released that video to prove Jones had one hit KO power and he's destroying a Welterweight... that shit was ridiculous.

I do like how Jones is one of the few guys right now when he can call Dana out on his bullshit in interviews or press conferences and Dana just has to put on a shit eating grin and agree with him now or try to deflect any of his issues with things. Not enough guys have been able to put Dana in his places and he has to consistently eat crow so that's a nice change of pace to how most champions have it.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on September 09, 2014, 04:30:10 PM
Jones started to get heat with the rashad feud.  The crowd was pro jones up to that point, from the time he accepted the title challenge-on.  It also made rashad a crowd favourite. 
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 10, 2014, 01:04:22 AM
Can we have a forum agreement that FrontRowBrian never gets referenced in a positive way, ever? What a complete piece of shit.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 10, 2014, 02:35:14 AM
He did call out Ken Pavia's awful tweet and supported Christy and has outright denounced what happened, but yes putting any blame on the abused is a no-go.

He's an insensitive asshole, but an insightful one. You gotta take the good:

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FrontRowBrian @FrontRowBrian  ·  Sep 8

Shogun really should retire… or go to OneFC and fight awful competition. He going to end up with a serious brain condition like Ninja

It’s no coincidence Ninja Rua fought 8x after EliteXC Heat Oct ’08 and none of those venues required a brain scan.


FrontRowBrian @FrontRowBrian  ·  Sep 8

The only plausible excuse for knocking out the broad was if she pulled a knife on him or gun. She didn't do either. How is not in jail?

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FrontRowBrian @FrontRowBrian  ·  Sep 8

You needed to see the actual footage to determine Rice's fiancé was knocked out? Wouldn't her lifeless body being dragged give it away?


with the bad:

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FrontRowBrian @FrontRowBrian  ·  Sep 8

A lot of ppl are saying HOW DARE YOU CRITICIZE RAY RICE’S WIFE! The bitch MARRIED a guy who KO’d her 2 days earlier. She can be criticized

not endorsing domestic violence. However if you're a woman who knowingly gets in a relationship with a dude who beats women, who is 2 blame?


and the hilarious:

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FrontRowBrian @FrontRowBrian  ·  Sep 8

@MMARoasted pro wrestling is real. People are fake

2 more pics of Ray Rice at UFC 172. UFC is responsible for Rice KO'ing his fiancé. He was an innocent child b4 UFC pic.twitter.com/yWn50K05L1

FrontRowBrian @FrontRowBrian  ·  Sep 8

Why is the Bellas’ younger brother wearing a 12 year old’s jacket?

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FrontRowBrian @FrontRowBrian  ·  Sep 8

bRie is very jealous of Nikki’s breast implants. Ever since she got them, bRie has had it out for her only sister.

@JHScramble it’s possible she’s a late bloomer… at 30

 FrontRowBrian @FrontRowBrian  ·  Sep 8

This makes the Tito/Bonnar skit look like Braveheart in comparison.

FrontRowBrian @FrontRowBrian  ·  23h

@dannyrube @BrianButler_Au for sure. Herrig could get 2000 an hour as one of those female dominatrix escorts. That's Anderson Silva money

He even got mentioned by the real scotty riggs!

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RIGGS @realscottyriggs  ·  24h

"subversive, asshole, malignant garbage, devils advocate" ...you're doing something right!! @FrontRowBrian

He's one of the last real dudes who doesn't consider how other people will react when he tweets stuff. I think he has some p. insensitive and ignorant things to say, but he knows his shit for the most part and is hilarious. I like him.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on September 10, 2014, 04:46:00 AM
FRB is my boy and one of my favorite MMA reporters (even though he doesn't consider himself one) going. He doesn't take shit and tells it like it is. In my opinion, he doesn't get enough credit.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 10, 2014, 06:03:41 AM
He's a racist mysoginist. What should he get credit for?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on September 10, 2014, 08:22:26 AM
That he is a good reporter. He has broken some stories before Ariel did.

Also, for the most part, I think the racism and misogyny are a work.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 10, 2014, 08:27:27 AM
What good would fooling people into thinking you're a racist woman hater do for somebody?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on September 10, 2014, 08:33:12 AM
He's a big fan of pro wrestling. It's a gimmick. He talks all the time about how good Ronda is.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 10, 2014, 08:41:35 AM
"It's a work" is just a cop-out. I've seen enough of his posts, don't buy it for a second.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 12, 2014, 07:18:55 AM
http://m.lodinews.com/news/article_157eeed0-3aaa-11e4-8654-9767fc1aa1f4.html?mode=jqm

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UFC fighter and former Tokay High School student Nick Diaz was arrested in Lodi at 2:20 a.m. Sept. 6 on suspicion of DUI, obstructing a police officer, destruction of evidence and driving with a suspended license, according to Sgt. Mike Kermgard of the Lodi Police Department.

Diaz was arrested by Cpl. Eric Bradley while driving down the 600 block of East Pine Street, Kermgard said. The arraignment for Diaz should be 21 days after his arrest.

Diaz is scheduled to fight Anderson Silva, former UFC middleweight champion, on Jan. 31, 2015.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 12, 2014, 07:20:36 AM
Surprised this was kept under wraps for almost a week. Whatever. He didn't even have a gun or threaten to kill somebody.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 12, 2014, 07:24:03 AM
Nick is in one of the biggest fights in the history of the company (from an excitement/name value perspective), no way will they discipline him. Dana probably paid his bail and is hiring his lawyers as I type this.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on September 12, 2014, 09:42:24 AM
The UFC is pretty lenient with DUI's. The other charges might hurt him though.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Mildly Threatening Damon on September 12, 2014, 05:35:11 PM
Am I still allowed to think that Jon Jones is a douche?  Anyway, Submission Saturday!  You get two because I was too busy working for Nielsen and being drunk last week:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MjdAQxXQ4Y (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MjdAQxXQ4Y)---Rumina Sato

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk2J8_M094g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk2J8_M094g)---Chan Sung Jung.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 13, 2014, 04:39:27 AM
The flying armbar pretty much universally should be a first-ballot choice for GOAT sub.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Beer Baron on September 13, 2014, 03:04:29 PM
I always loved Ryu Chonan flying heel hook on Silva.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Mildly Threatening Damon on September 14, 2014, 03:26:41 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x8FJBrogpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMz317TfULE

A great weekend for triangle variants.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 17, 2014, 01:49:59 AM
Francis Carmont is no longer a UFC fighter.

We did it.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on September 17, 2014, 03:57:18 AM
There IS a God. What was GSP on when he was hyping this guy like crazy?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 17, 2014, 05:15:23 AM
Carmont was GSP's link to the black chicks he so admittedly enjoys.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Amy pats fan on September 19, 2014, 09:38:48 AM
the UFC has re-released Thiago Silva due to "new information coming to light, man"

If the NFL shitstorm keeps rolling UFC needs to seriously watch their back.  The timing of this can't be a coincidence.  I couldn't believe they brought him back in the first place due to the original details and allegations, and now his girl has come forward with more damning evidence

the one good thing about this whole NFL thing is that women who previously were afraid are now empowered to come out publicly about abuse and domestic violence

They've also suspended Rumble Johnson indefinitely due to "the mother of two of his children" going public with this

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/9/19/6557109/ufc-anthony-rumble-johnsons-ex-restraining-order-domestic-violence
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 19, 2014, 10:38:45 AM
Why is that in quotes? Do you want a dna test to prove he's the father?

Also wtf is up with the Blackzillians and domestic abusers?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Amy pats fan on September 19, 2014, 11:17:24 AM
in quotes because "the mother of two of his children" is funny to me and implies he has lots of kids running around with multiple un-wifed women
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Mildly Threatening Damon on September 20, 2014, 06:56:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRpcLbKxl0A

I don't know what the fuck that is, but it looks painful.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on September 20, 2014, 10:07:58 AM
Looks like a monoplata with a neck crank.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 23, 2014, 07:21:02 AM
Jon Jones received a $50,000 fine and 40 hours of community service for the Cormier shoving incident. He also claims to have been dumped by Nike over it which if so is BIG.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on September 23, 2014, 08:20:16 AM
The nike thing kinda surprised me.  This is why Gsp was vanilla as fuck when champ. 
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 23, 2014, 08:34:15 AM
DC was fined $9000 and 20 hours of community service so clearly the NSAC is laying the blame with Jones on this one.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: fazzle on September 27, 2014, 12:08:42 PM
I'm not an MMA guy, but for those of you who are, what's the scouting report on Justin Scoggins?  Is he expected to be something big, or is he just a UFC jobber?  I ask because I found out a few weeks ago that his dad works at the plant I'm at right now. Everyone here talks like he's big shit, but obv they're kinda biased.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 30, 2014, 05:55:00 AM
Scoggins came into the UFC with a lot of hype behind him and looked great early but has lost his last 2 fights so the brakes have kinda cooled on his hype train. His first loss was a really tight split decision that could have arguably went his way and in his last fight he was dominating but became over-reliant on his submission defense as his opponent kept going back to the same choke every time and he eventually got caught. Still a fighter with a bright future though, provided he shores up his holes defensively.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on September 30, 2014, 06:16:48 AM
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/9/29/6865523/ufc-stockholm-siver-vs-lapilus-smmaf-pulls-frenchman-signs-charles-rosa-mma-news

I had no idea that France does not allow ground & pound.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 30, 2014, 06:27:32 AM
yo the GOAT needs to post in this folder more.

I'm glad the SMMA reps are diligent about this stuff.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 30, 2014, 06:35:36 AM
Good thing American AC's aren't, otherwise there logically should have been no reason that a 7-0 fighter in Brandon Halsey would be fighting a 50-18 fighter in Alexander Shlemenko.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 30, 2014, 06:58:34 AM
Pff, the French guy never fought real MMA but one time, and Halsey is an obvious dynamo.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on September 30, 2014, 12:15:45 PM
Bisping was right (ugh), all along. Cung Le got popped for HGH.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 01, 2014, 02:29:39 AM
Somewhere Brian Stann is smiling and nodding like Mark Henry.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 03, 2014, 06:24:24 AM
"Let's just say I'm a company man and they wanted an exit for a certain person. I'm the man that's going to execute it"- Elias Theodoru on his fight against Bruno Santos on the Halifax card tomorrow night. Santos is boring as fuck, I wish more fighters would come out and basically tell their opponents that the UFC is looking to get rid of them because they aren't exciting and when they lose they're out of a job.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on October 03, 2014, 08:34:38 AM
At first I was worried because I thought there was some implication of a fixed fight.

if he really is that boring (I don't know who this Santos guy is) then that's p. good trash talk.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on October 04, 2014, 06:39:26 AM
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/10/2/6895435/mma-news-cody-mckenzie-pint-of-blood-lose-pound-battlegrounds-one-night-tournament

WTF

This event is worth checking out for JR/Chael, but I wanna see the clusterfuck of the fights too.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: AA484 on October 04, 2014, 02:14:21 PM
This baseball game.  will.  not.  end.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on October 04, 2014, 03:07:12 PM
This baseball game.  will.  not.  end.

You know that fights got moved to fx, right?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: AA484 on October 04, 2014, 03:11:58 PM
Yes, but for whatever reason FX is blacked out on my box.  Not sure why - it just won't come in.  At least the game finally ended for me to see the two fights I wanted to see the most.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on October 04, 2014, 04:00:57 PM
Killer finish for Rory. I love how open 170 is now.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on October 05, 2014, 01:01:57 PM
Rick Story's "do i get to be in the game yet?" Line is prob my fave of the year that didn't come from Connor mcgregor
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 06, 2014, 08:37:07 AM
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/10/2/6895435/mma-news-cody-mckenzie-pint-of-blood-lose-pound-battlegrounds-one-night-tournament

WTF

This event is worth checking out for JR/Chael, but I wanna see the clusterfuck of the fights too.

The state A.C wants to fine Roan Carneiro 15k for showing up late to medicals. WTF.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 07, 2014, 08:07:12 AM
In news that furthers the evidence that WSOF is in a self-inflicted tailspin of epic proportions they have scheduled the Rousimar Phalhares vs Jon Fitch title fight to air directly against the UFC on Fox card in December.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on October 07, 2014, 08:39:29 AM
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/10/2/6895435/mma-news-cody-mckenzie-pint-of-blood-lose-pound-battlegrounds-one-night-tournament

WTF

This event is worth checking out for JR/Chael, but I wanna see the clusterfuck of the fights too.

The state A.C wants to fine Roan Carneiro 15k for showing up late to medicals. WTF.

He only got $50k for winning the whole thing, right?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 07, 2014, 08:41:36 AM
That's my understanding, yeah.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 08, 2014, 08:50:09 AM
Greg Savage tweeted that the UFC is considering doing a team-based version of TUF for Fight Pass and they want to do Blackzillians vs ATT. That is awesome.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Grit, Toughness, Soul, & Spirit on October 09, 2014, 03:34:17 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLZ1ZQsqW-8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLZ1ZQsqW-8)

Hopefully a four hour version of this with Mazzagatti exists somewhere.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on October 09, 2014, 08:41:48 AM
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/10/9/6953527/mma-news-ex-ufc-fighter-jason-mayhem-miller-barricaded-live-tweet-standoff-swat-police

Jason Miller had a standoff with police and decided to rant about it on Twitter in real time. Mostly bitching that it was a waste of resources and that he "feared for his safety."
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 09, 2014, 08:42:38 AM
Mayhem vs War Machine, winner gets an extra hour in the exercise yard. Book it, justice system.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on October 09, 2014, 11:41:54 AM
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/10/8/6948491/top-scientist-says-to-ignore-cung-les-hgh-test-result

This might be a bit too science-y for some, but it's interesting in how hilariously awful it makes the testing protocol look.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on October 10, 2014, 02:24:17 AM
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/10/10/6956415/ufc-nate-diazs-manager-reveals-client-still-not-happy-with-ufc-contract-mma-news

Breaking news! Nate Diaz and his manager are not happy with the contract that Nate signed willingly.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 10, 2014, 03:31:08 AM
Alternate title of article: "Mike Kogan says dumb shit.....again."
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on October 10, 2014, 06:34:32 AM
Some dude hacked Meisha's phone and is selling her nudes for $350 each.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 10, 2014, 06:49:25 AM
Too much potential for Caraway's dick to be in the shot. Not worth it.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on October 11, 2014, 09:15:55 AM
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Mayweather-Says-MMA-Fighters-Not-Being-Treated-Fair-Plans-to-Promote-MMA-Events-75501
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on October 13, 2014, 05:42:31 AM
Korean Zombie is out for two years. Mandatory enlistment in the South Korean army.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 14, 2014, 12:51:47 AM
The only positives (if there are any) here is that it's going to be in a non-combat role and he'll still be allowed to train during the two years.

Still, fuck this.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Brodypedia on October 14, 2014, 08:14:01 PM
http://www.podcastone.com/chaelsonnen


Sonnen has a podcast debuting today.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 16, 2014, 07:36:56 AM
Shooto Brazil wants to run a card at a soccer stadium with a 43k capacity.

Ooooooooooooookayyyyyyyyyyyy.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on October 16, 2014, 11:12:57 AM
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/10/16/6991477/mma-news-jon-koppenhaver-suicide-watch-attempted-hanging-war-machine-jail

War Machine failed at suicide the other day.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on October 16, 2014, 11:41:18 AM
I'm glad. He was taking the easy way out.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Thrasher on October 16, 2014, 11:45:31 AM
Isn't suicide against the Alpha Male code?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on October 16, 2014, 11:56:36 AM
He always claimed he was going to OD when he "got old".
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 17, 2014, 01:30:30 AM
I'm glad. He was taking the easy way out.

Agreed. The guy deserves to rot in jail and undergo all the mental trauma in the world for what he's done, suicide would rob the people he's hurt the chance to see him suffer.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 20, 2014, 02:22:23 AM
(http://giant.gfycat.com/SpeedyAbsoluteFairyfly.gif)

Damacio Page is 4-1 since being cut and let's face it, we need this kind of violence. Re-sign the Angel of Death, Shelby.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on October 20, 2014, 02:32:06 AM
That knock out is good and all, and granted he always faced top 10 guys, but Damacio never seemed to be UFC-level. Doubt he would ever break out of the prelims.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 20, 2014, 02:33:25 AM
But.....violence.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on October 20, 2014, 02:42:29 AM
The violence is usually him getting choked out.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 20, 2014, 02:42:57 AM
So? I didn't always say he was on the giving end.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on October 20, 2014, 05:12:08 AM
(http://cdn4.teen.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/touche.gif)
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on October 20, 2014, 05:50:55 AM
http://www.cagepotato.com/war-machine-suicide-note/

War Machine's suicide letter. Just as absurd as you'd think.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 20, 2014, 06:02:14 AM
I hope he continues to try and kill himself and it continues to be foiled. He deserves a life of wishing for death but never getting it.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on October 20, 2014, 06:15:22 AM
The idea of him trapped in a cage for the remainder of his existence is a good one.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 21, 2014, 01:28:13 AM
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/10/20/7024555/video-ufc-lhw-champion-jon-jones-exposes-himself-on-snapchat

LOL. This dude's handlers/management team should be fuckin' fired.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: AA484 on October 21, 2014, 01:31:05 AM
Either that, or he just volunteers himself for a brain transplant.  Then again, he'd be competing with 90% of MMA fighters for that procedure.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 21, 2014, 01:34:17 AM
I don't think there's ever been a greater example recently of a supremely brilliant fighter who does such dumb shit outside the cage.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on October 22, 2014, 11:53:14 AM
For Canadians:

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Meltzer:

There has been more and more talk regarding the company’s Canadian television deal with Rogers Sportsnet, that expires at the end of the year. Rogers Sportsnet, after signing a 12 year NHL deal at $433 million per year, way beyond anything anyone has ever gotten for Canadian rights fees, plus signed its new WWE deal that was said to be very lucrative because it includes full rights to the network, is said to be in a cash crunch with layoffs taking place. The lack of a new deal, and Steve Keogh, who headed P.R. for UFC in Canada, leaving for a job with the Toronto Maple Leafs, has people talking. According to the Canadian In the Cage web site, both The Fight Network, which has limited visibility, and TSN, have put in bids for UFC. TSN would probably have the best shot, plus they probably have money to spend after losing the NHL. But TSN has never been big on MMA in the past.

The UFC isn't in a good position here. TSN has never been that fond of MMA in general, and TFN doesn't have very good distribution at all. It'll be interesting to see where MMA in Canada goes from here.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on October 22, 2014, 12:09:50 PM
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Anthony Johnson hearing set for the end of the month.

The UFC has said they want to see what happens at the hearing before the start to decide what to do with him.

via UFC Tonight.

Call me a bad person but I want to see him back. If Floyd Mayweather can box up a storm, if Austin can win a Wrestlemania match, if GWB can be president after drinking and driving, then surely AJ should still be allowed to fight!
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on October 22, 2014, 12:14:35 PM
Well TSN is bereft of programming and has shown WSOF and MFC in recent years so they should really go for it. Would pretty stupid if Fight Network got it.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on October 22, 2014, 12:17:03 PM
The thing is TSN shows WSOF like three hours later on TSN3 or something, so even in 2014 they are still very hesitant to fully get on the MMA bandwagon. Obviously that would change if they got hooked up with the UFC, but it's hard to ignore their history.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on October 22, 2014, 12:28:02 PM
Oh yeah, knowing TSN they would bury it on TSN 4 but as long as it's live I'll take that over FN.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 23, 2014, 01:03:00 AM
FN also has John Pollack so fucked if I want to see that guy covering UFC. Give me Mauro over that dude.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on October 23, 2014, 07:56:50 AM
What do you have against Pollack? I don't know much about him, just have seen him give news updates here and there.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 23, 2014, 08:09:51 AM
He talks about mma through a pro-wrestling lens. And he's just generally a bad reporter and annoying as fuck.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on October 23, 2014, 09:17:47 AM
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/WeidmanBelfort-Title-Tilt-Likely-Moving-to-California-CSAC-to-Handle-All-Drug-Testing-76125

uhh I think we're going to see more shades of TRT Vitor than we realized.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on October 23, 2014, 09:24:57 AM
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BJPENN.COM: How did Mike bring you down to 145 pounds?

BJ: Dolce had me take four different types of diuretics. He did not want me to sweat out a single pound. He put me on four different diuretic pills, had me take them four-times per day, and I did that for a week.

I took Expel, Dandelion Root, UVA Ursi and one more, I forget the name. This was the first time a nutritionist ever offered me diuretics to make weight, in my whole career.

The day before the weigh-in I was at 147 pounds. On that day, I addressed some concerns to Dolce about how I could not carry my bags or walk up any large amount of steps. My heart rate would shoot up and I would feel like fainting, but his approach didn’t change.

He didn’t have me sit in a jacuzzi to sweat, like you usually see him do. All he did was give me pills to suck all the weight out of me, but he didn’t have the knowledge, or the expertise to put the water back in, without an I.V.. (Previously a welterweight and lightweight, Penn walked into the cage at just 148lbs.)

that's fucked, sucks for me as someone that feels like he should have retired after the Diaz fight.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on October 23, 2014, 09:33:26 AM
Well that explains the snippets of the Twitter beef I saw.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 27, 2014, 08:06:56 AM
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/10/27/7078191/ufc-canada-michael-imperato-has-contract-canceled-following-botched-vetting-process-mma-news

UFC signs fighter, proceeds to find out he said racist/homophobic stuff on a tv show once, cancels contract.

FWIW the guy was an absolute king douche on the show and dropped out before fighting because he couldn't handle workouts with a proper camp.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on October 27, 2014, 09:25:28 AM
When are they going to learn to Google people before they sign them?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 28, 2014, 07:20:58 AM
UFC is holding a "can't miss" press event on November 17th, info was circulated today with the tag "The Time is Now" attached to it.

Commence speculation on what will surely be a tremendous letdown.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on October 28, 2014, 08:54:22 AM
Ufc branded wrist watches!
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on October 28, 2014, 01:18:53 PM
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"For me, if there is one fight I could have, it's Conor McGregor. Ill go fight him in Ireland. He wants to fight in a football stadium? I'll fight him in a football stadium. When he jumped into the spot, he started barking up the wrong dog's alley. I'm one of the guys who laid the bricks for this great career that he is having. I was one of the ones that created the expansion for the sport. I helped build the foundation on this big building, and the guy is just disrespectful. He doesn't respect that, and he doesn't respect any of the other fighters in his division that have paid dues. For me, being confident, that's cool. He is a great mixed martial artist. I study the guy. He is very intelligent, he has a smart mind for the fight and he knows how to study fighters. He's athletic, strong and he hits hard; a good fighter. But there is a respect factor. You got to have respect. From the beginning, that bothered me. No one stood up to him, so I stood up to him. I just told him not to talk crap about the guys that paid their dues, so he fires back at me that I'm fat and pathetic, I'l beat you in one round. So, I'm like, what's up then, bro? Look, this guy is really good, he has a good hype train, done some awesome things in his four fights in UFC and now he's looking for a title shot. This guy could probably beat 95-percent of the fighters in his division. The ones that will give him a tough fight are Cub, Frankie, and Aldo. Mendes and Bermudez, too. He's a big guy and hits hard at 145. He can beat 95-percent of those guys, but he can't beat me, I know that in my heart. Styles make fights and I am 100-percent confident that I will finish this guy within five rounds, make him give up. But the thing is, I like this guy. He gets under my skin in a positive, motivating way. I see how he evolves, his kicks and how he works hard and the way he likes to believe in himself. It has sparked this motivation and inspiration inside of myself. That's why I fight, the passion."

Diego with the most accurate fighter quote on Conor.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 29, 2014, 01:52:16 AM
My lord Conor would do awful, awful things to Diego.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on October 29, 2014, 02:25:00 AM
Conor would TKO Diego inside of 3 rounds.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 31, 2014, 05:46:17 AM
TitanFC has lost it's headliner literally hours before the show starts tonight. Mike Ricci failed to make weight for the inagural title fight against Yoshiyuki Yoshida who initially agreed to do it as a 3 round catch-weight. Yoshida has now changed his mind and refused the fight. Ouch.

Edit: And now Yoshida has been cut. I can understand his frustration, the last time he took a catch-weight fight Anthony Johnson removed him from conciousness but goddamn dude, don't agree to a fight and then hours before the event back out.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Mildly Threatening Damon on October 31, 2014, 07:03:09 AM
TitanFC has lost it's headliner literally hours before the show starts tonight. Mike Ricci failed to make weight for the inagural title fight against Yoshiyuki Yoshida who initially agreed to do it as a 3 round catch-weight. Yoshida has now changed his mind and refused the fight. Ouch.

Edit: And now Yoshida has been cut. I can understand his frustration, the last time he took a catch-weight fight Anthony Johnson removed him from conciousness but goddamn dude, don't agree to a fight and then hours before the event back out.

(http://i49.tinypic.com/245kp51.gif)
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on October 31, 2014, 07:11:08 AM
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Report-WEC-Pride-Veteran-Paulo-Filho-Shot-in-Leg-at-Party-in-Rio-de-Janeiro-76493

Remember when people were talking about this guy taking out PRIME Anderson? Got into a fight with a guy at a party, got shot in the leg :(
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 31, 2014, 07:11:17 AM
Am I misremembering or when Hendricks failed to initially make weight didn't the UFC come out and say that it would still be five rounds and that if he couldn't make weight it would only be a title fight for Lawler?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Mildly Threatening Damon on October 31, 2014, 09:48:32 AM
LOTC, I remember that also.  Maybe it's something that varies state to state?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Brodypedia on November 01, 2014, 05:32:03 PM
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One of UFC's few potential huge money matches has been delayed as Cris Cyborg sufferede a full rupture of the anterior talofibular ligament of her ankle, which will require significant recovery time.

That was the major announcement Invicta has teased yesterday about what would be announced tonight during its broadcast.

Cyborg was scheduled to debut at 135 pounds on 12/5, the first step toward a 2015 fight with Ronda Rousey. 

F4W
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on November 01, 2014, 07:16:46 PM
Come see the only legit challenger to Ronda Rousey! On Fight Pass! And we didn't do fuck all to promote it! And she's now injured anyhow!
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on November 06, 2014, 07:34:27 AM
Rumble's Civil Case has been dismissed and his suspension has been lifted.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: AA484 on November 06, 2014, 09:05:24 AM
It's a work to give her time to get the HGH out of her system
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 06, 2014, 09:50:05 AM
And the hypocrites breath a sigh of relief.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on November 07, 2014, 04:48:35 AM
Linker missed weight. Has time to lose 0.7 lbs.

EDIT
Made it on the second attempt.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on November 08, 2014, 03:59:06 PM
The stoppage in that Shogun fight...for fuck's sake
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on November 08, 2014, 04:11:48 PM
After seeing how old Shogun looked during introductions I knew I'd picked wrong.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Mildly Threatening Damon on November 08, 2014, 05:49:55 PM
I start wondering if Jimi Manuwa would have done Shogun worse  :'(
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on November 09, 2014, 05:20:27 AM
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Heavyweight-Guram-Gugenishvili-Killed-in-Car-Accident-at-28-76915

I remember him being the overhyped eastern euro prospect of the day for like four years. He has a p. impressive record. But it's sad he went out like this, RIP
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 09, 2014, 07:54:39 AM
I remember BPship using a Gabbo line from Simpsons to make fun of the M1 videos promoting him.

Still a crap thing to happen though, RIP.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on November 12, 2014, 08:40:40 AM
http://youtu.be/6-hREuoiidk

Damn Hunt seems depressed and is going through problems with his family.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on November 12, 2014, 08:41:02 AM
lol that's a good freeze-frame though.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Beer Baron on November 12, 2014, 09:14:11 AM
ESPN hired Chael Sonnen as an UFC analyst
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 13, 2014, 12:59:26 AM
And in their statement said that he has paid his dues as far as punishment goes which is funny considering his suspension hasn't even been served yet.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on November 16, 2014, 11:05:25 AM
UFC is holding a "can't miss" press event on November 17th, info was circulated today with the tag "The Time is Now" attached to it.

Commence speculation on what will surely be a tremendous letdown.

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The stars of the UFC will converge in Las Vegas alongside UFC President Dana White to launch an incredible slate of upcoming events. THE TIME IS NOW launch will feature the largest compilation of champions, contenders and main event headliners on the same stage.

already disappointed
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 16, 2014, 01:51:58 PM
Source, BRO?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on November 16, 2014, 02:31:18 PM
http://www.ufc.tv/video/the-time-is-now-press-conference
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 17, 2014, 01:05:21 AM
GOOD SOURCE BRO
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 17, 2014, 02:50:40 AM
"Duke Roufus is a bully, a liar, and one of the worst people I have ever met. I have never been in a more toxic environment than when I was the head grappling coach and fighter at the gym. I saw teammate after teammate getting treated like shit. Guys being told to beat up lower level guys that were just trying to help out, UFC fighters being told to beat up other UFC level fighters so they would not come back, verbal abuse, violence, guys getting lied to about fights, etc. I have messages and conversations with almost everyone of his fighters from my days there; from his UFC stars to his coaching staff about how much they were mistreated. I will not out them, but they know the truth. They can tell their tales if they want.

When I started there I was new to the UFC, and it was purely a kickboxing gym. I was looking to round out my game. I soon joined as the head grappling coach and we started the MMA team. You could say that I was 2nd in command at the time. I was there when Pettis walked in the door, and when Pat Barry moved to Milwaukee to switch to MMA. I have met some of my best friends there and the family was very strong, despite the captain of the ship being horrible. After seeing countless members of my "family" get screwed over, I finally called it quits after he finally betrayed me directly after being there for over 3 years. Sometimes I wish I had the strength to stand up to him at the time, but it almost feels like I was one of the kids in a family of abuse. I would rather run away than stand up to my violent dad.

I left without telling anyone my plans, but I started my own gym a few months later. I never recruited anyone to follow me, but I just wanted out of the negativity. Many of the guys followed me when they found out or left eventually to other places after they got screwed. I don't claim to be a great fighter or anything, and don't care if I ever am as famous as him or his guys... but I am much more happy. Maybe I am just a pussy or something, like I am sure he will claim anyone who says anything about him, but I could care less. I was never a world champion and had my weaknesses in the cage, but I dare you to ever say I quit in the gym no matter who I was sparring. It was not the "hard" training that was bad, it was something much worse. Not every fighter was treated horribly, but I am sure that every fighter and coach from 2007 to 2010 has been screwed over at least once, whether they will admit it or not.

I am happy with my young and happy gym. I have blocked him from my life. I was offered a fight on his card and told my manager that "I personally would not ever fight for him", so a when a few of my young fighters were scheduled to fight on his show (which I did not like, but he is the big local promoter), he decided to cancel their fights 2 weeks before the event. He wrote me a letter (which I kept) saying they were not welcome, because I did not respect him. I said that I actually understand that, but I wish he wouldn't have scheduled them in the first place and screwed them over. A year later the matchmaker came out and asked for forgiveness and said that we can at least have a business relationship. I said I didn't trust Duke, but the other coaches wanted our guys on the card, I reluctantly agreed. Once again, he cancelled our fights a few weeks before to spite me. Oh well...

The sad thing is that this poor kid had to die before we started hearing any of these stories. What happened to this poor kid is a separate issue in my opinion... "

Sooooo, Eric Schafer has some issues with Duke Roufus.

Also, wtf is that shit about a kid dying? I haven't heard anything.

Edit: It appears that recently there was a kickboxing bout in Milwaukee that Duke was involved in somehow where a young man died. 
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on November 17, 2014, 04:06:12 AM
Yeah, back in March. Rose was tweeting about it yesterday.

Kid died in his very first kickboxing fight and there was so much negligence if you can track down an article on it.

She also posted dozens of texts from people claiming the same types of abuse at the gym.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on November 17, 2014, 04:26:47 AM
This shit is trending on Reddit, so it must be a big deal.

http://www.reddit.com/r/MMA/comments/2miz69/rose_namajunas_is_sharing_serious_dirt_on_duke/

After hearing stories about how he was treated by his brother on the Rogan podcast, it doesn't surprise me that he would do stuff like that when coaching others. I wonder how Askren and Pettis feel about him, probably too tough to complain about any kind of 'gym abuse' really.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on November 17, 2014, 04:29:15 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/M9yWL72.jpg)

man I feel bad for ripping on Barry now, he seems like a genuinely good guy. Takes balls to stand up to Duke like that.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on November 17, 2014, 04:39:49 AM
Pat Barry is a terrible MMA fighter but he genuinely seems like one of the nicest guys there is.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on November 17, 2014, 04:52:08 AM
Regarding the dead kickboxer:

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A Journal Sentinel review found a cascade of errors was made by fight officials — all of whom have been closely linked to Roufus for years. On the night Munson died, the officials failed to intervene at key moments as he exhibited what a dozen independent experts who reviewed a video of the fight say were obvious signs of distress. Several said the fight should have been stopped.

Even after Munson collapsed, care was delayed by a disagreement over treatment, hang-ups exiting the building and confusion about ambulance care. Skilled paramedics were waved off and Munson was taken to a nearby regular hospital, instead of Milwaukee's Level One trauma center.

http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/watchdogreports/Milwaukee-kickboxer-Dennis-Munson-Jr-dies-following-cascade-of-errors-by-fight-officials-b99356847z1-280084622.html

I guess this is what got people to finally speak out. I heard about the death when it happened, but this investigative report shows that it was much more than just an accident. If the proper regulations were in place, this kid might have lived. Hell, if they didn't send a half-dead kid to fight in the third round, they wouldn't have had to save his life in the first place. The article said the DA won't be pressing charges, but this shit sure seems criminal to me.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on November 17, 2014, 05:31:59 AM
The fact that the ring doctor was checking his phone between rounds instead of checking on the kid is terrifyingly negligent.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on November 17, 2014, 05:40:22 AM
You wonder if more camps are like this and if it lead to the injury epidemic the sport has been having lately.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 17, 2014, 05:59:50 AM
Pettis aside the RoufusSport camp doesn't have a history of injures on the level of a camp like AKA but it certainly backs up the complains of Showtimes team on TUF this season in regards to overtraining and going too hard.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on November 17, 2014, 06:00:45 AM
There was an article (I think on mmafighting.com) that did a bit of looking back and it showed that RoufusSport fighters pull out of more fights than any other camp.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 17, 2014, 06:07:18 AM
Lol I just noticed that figure when reading the comment section at BE.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on November 17, 2014, 08:15:45 AM
Yay, Calgary mentioned by name for a card in 2015. Better be the big one Uncle Dana promised to make up for 149 (or Mighty Mouse vs. some scrub and some middling contenders in the co-main).
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 17, 2014, 08:18:10 AM
Get ready for Zak Cummings vs a newly rehired Jason High as your co-main or some shit.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on November 17, 2014, 08:26:18 AM
After a huge hyped up twenty minute intro with Jon Anik saying THE TIME IS NOW THE TIME IS NOW THE TIME IS NOW and getting to see legends CB Dollaway and Dennis Siver share the same stage, as well as all the events they're doing next year,

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Q:Dana, what is the big announcement?

Dana: Haha that's the first question huh? Well, I hate to disappoint everyone but we didn't get it done in time. Sorry, you can all go home now heh heh heh

I'm p. sure that was a serious response. Lirl.

But thinking about their international events, these markets keep buying up shit. They're making lots of money by going to a place that wants one UFC event a year regardless of quality, and running a cheap operation. Will these international markets keep expanding though, and will they be able to keep the MMA market cornered in those places? Mexico looks like it's going to be a big pipeline for fighters, and I think they can probably sell out two events a year there if enough of them end up being decent at least.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on November 17, 2014, 08:34:51 AM
Jones and Cormier are chirping p. hard right now,

Cormier: January 3rd

Jones: Or we could fight today.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 17, 2014, 08:38:01 AM
It should be a rule that whenever Jones and Cormier go at it Dave Sholler has to stand in the middle of them, arms outstretched with the same "Oh shit" look on his face he had the first time.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on November 17, 2014, 08:38:34 AM
Vitor is reminiscing about UFC 12 and being the OLD LION right now.

Huge blunder in not making the announcement aside, this is actually a really good press conference with all these stars on the same stage.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on November 18, 2014, 12:43:52 AM
Big Dave OWNED the UFC press conference (aside from Nick Diaz and Dom Robinson) in terms of big news with one shot:

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Meltzer (on his Monday audio) said that Brock is free in April & wants to fight again (as Dana said), but he thinks there is a real chance he goes to Bellator.

He said Viacom is ready to spend money now & that he thinks Bellator might be a better fit since they are more open to attention getting fights then rankings.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 18, 2014, 02:16:28 AM
Not to mention he'd stand a greater chance of not getting completely blown out of the water in Bellator. I admire his desire to still want to compete taking into account his age and injuries/illness but no way in hell the majority of the UFC top ten doesn't completely smoke him.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on November 18, 2014, 02:59:03 AM
Have you looked at the top ten rankings of Heavyweights in the UFC?

I think Brock beats everyone except Werdum, JDS, and Cain. Everyone else, I can see him taking down and beating the crap out of.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 18, 2014, 03:00:51 AM
I think he loses to Travis Browne, Barnett, Hunt and maybe others I'm not thinking of. There's no way he comes back the same fighter and his wrestling wasn't ever top shelf, more brute power then anything. Plus it's not like his chin has got any better in his time away, dude probably has one of the worst if not THE worst reaction to getting hit at HW.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: MikeofEvil on November 18, 2014, 04:16:03 AM
Lesnar vs Hunt would be an awful, awful train wreck which I would watch the shit out of.

Also, I'm shocked that HSJ just said that there's someone Mir wouldn't beat.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on November 18, 2014, 04:32:07 AM
Mir beat him already, duh.

Mir beating Big Foot and then getting Brock/Mir 3? YES YES YES!
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 18, 2014, 05:15:44 AM
That fight actually makes complete sense now. It's winnable for Brock, drew huge the last time out and is the conclusion of a grudge match trilogy.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on November 18, 2014, 05:36:56 AM
If Brock is the same fighter he was before (everyone is saying he's better, but I'll wait till I see him fight before I make that judgment), I fear what he would be able to do to Frank Mir in 2014. Mir's taken some beatings since that beating, he should be thankful he fought him in his second pro fight and can say he's 1-1 against him. He's not close to being elite anymore, and most would agree that Brock is still a great fighter with an awful style matchup for Mir.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 18, 2014, 06:02:47 AM
Pretty much anybody who can functionally move their arms is a bad style matchup for Mir. He's that cooked.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on November 18, 2014, 06:10:10 AM
Can Big Foot functionally move his arms? Because thats a fight Frank Mir is going to win.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 18, 2014, 06:14:16 AM
One meathook from Silva and Frank is napping. And you know this.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on November 19, 2014, 01:03:58 PM
Real question: would MMA media be more favorable to the UFC if the UFC brought back ring entrances with video screens, staging and pyrotechnics.  I feel this is why bellator was so complimented this past wknd.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on November 19, 2014, 03:31:04 PM
They got props for ratings, and not dropping 40% in their profits this year.

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Credit-Agency-Standard-Poors-Reports-Zuffa-May-Suffer-40-Percent-Profit-Decline-in-2014-77531

Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 20, 2014, 01:00:08 AM
That sound you hear is Dana sending simultaneous dump trucks full of cash to GSP and Lesnar's houses.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: MikeofEvil on November 20, 2014, 05:41:11 AM
Lesnar appears to be getting pretty good at the art of not going back somewhere until they're prepared to pay him well for it.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 20, 2014, 05:52:07 AM
As I mentioned prior, he'd certainly do better (IMO) against the current crop of Bellator HW's but UFC might get into a bidding war now knowing what we know about their decline in PPV buys.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on November 20, 2014, 06:43:23 AM
Am I the only one who thinks Vince won't give up Brock without a fight? This dude is a draw and has got the biggest rub you possibly could get from anyone in the industry this year. I can't imagine Vince letting him go so easily.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 20, 2014, 06:54:08 AM
I admittedly know next to nothing about pro wrestling these days but I thought I read an article a while back that said Vince was cool with letting Brock go?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: AA484 on November 20, 2014, 08:00:26 AM
That sound you hear is Dana sending simultaneous dump trucks full of cash to GSP and Lesnar's houses.

I don't even equate it to not having a big, marketable star, I equate it to:

(a) People just not paying a ton of money for pay-per-views which sometimes only have one or two appealing match ups.
(b) Oversaturation of the product which hurts their pay-per-view buyrates because fighters are scattered over a myriad of cards any given month.
(c) Too many injuries to major contenders and main eventers.  This is something that UFC really can't help but if you have a big fight that is basically the only appeal of some pay-per-views/cards it kills the buyrate/rating or the entire show if one guy goes down hurt.  This is something that the gyms have to address individually.  LOTC had that great quote from Lawler where he says he doesn't spar as much in the gym because he already knows how to fight.  Seems to have worked pretty well for him the past year.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 20, 2014, 08:11:16 AM
I'm not disagreeing but more people tuned into to see Bonnar and Ortiz go at it on Saturday night then any other UFC fight on network tv this year, despite most UFC cards featuring a higher level of talent overall so clearly being a "star" or "name" plays into things somehow.

I agree though that oversaturation and pricing was a factor though, especially in the months where you'd have two ppv's within 30 days.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on November 20, 2014, 08:15:13 AM
Someone in the comments brought up how there was a time where every card posed a legitimate question as to which fight you would look most forward to that evening because there were so many intriguing matchups. There was a time when Chael Sonnen-Yushin Okami was a non-televised prelim (though of course star power at the time was a factor there). You now have two card days where maybe 2 to 3 fights across both cards are intriguing. Something has to change, unpreventable injuries aside.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 20, 2014, 08:20:49 AM
Their 2015 schedule doesn't have more fights then this year but it doesn't have less. Having their champs remain injury-free would help but there are still a number of problems that will continue to plague them next year regardless.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on November 20, 2014, 09:02:01 AM
The problem is building up new stars. Right now, they believe people will watch because its "UFC." That is why GSP and Brock are very important pieces to the puzzle.

Not everyone is Conor or Ronda, though. Which is why the UFC is putting everything they have into these two. If Neil Magny had an ounce of charisma, you would be hearing more about how he is 5-0 in 2014 and would be a contender.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on November 20, 2014, 09:25:35 AM
It's funny to me that Magny is a contender. He got choked the fuck out by a legit black belt not too long ago, I'm p. sure he'd get starched by anyone in the top 15.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on November 20, 2014, 09:53:16 AM
The funny thing is back in 2005, 2006, danawhite was saying -when asked about the difference between MMA and boxing- was that the UFC had shows where the whole card was worth watching whereas boxing had a cards where it was just the main event and in doing that boxing had problems creating new stars.  It's odd the TV ufc does not follow that same philosophy even though they had known it a decade ago.

Back to the Bellator point, immediately following the two events the consensus was the Bellator fights were more worth watching even though the fights weren't  necessarily as good, so really the only difference could be the video screens and ramp.  I also feel this is why pride gets a pass even though they did all the things that the UFC is accused of doing (not having a strong enough PED policy) just on a much much bigger scale.

Dave Meltzer said a few days ago that Bellator would have a higher average rating than UFC through 2015 which is a bit misleading because the UFC has more programming so the average would be skewed.  He would not say that the bellator would have more total viewers because of course that would be wrong and would not follow the preferred narrative in his story.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on November 20, 2014, 10:01:37 AM
That's what a lot of people think Coker wants to do, have fewer shows that are bigger.

I'd say the UFC was definitely more worth watching. The Bellator main event was a joke, but they had some decent finishes like the Phan KO. Still, the UFC card definitely had more interesting fights that were actually better, but UFC 180 was a rarity in terms of the quality of the top three fights. The bottom two fights were so bad, plus expectations for the UFC are way higher. Throw in the fact that Bellator knew what it took to pop a rating and it looks how it does.

That's also related to what you posted about Dana saying it would not be a watered down card like what boxing was. I remember him saying that too, but they've been watering them down aside from big shows for like the past five years at least.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on November 20, 2014, 10:04:44 AM
On the subject of the UFC's dealings in 2014 and how it relates to oversaturation I think it is a very important point however I think it is the wrong point to make.  The ufc is not going to change that policy because they are thinking globally and in performing To that wide of an audience they need to have more shows.  The funny thing is if the UFC were just putting on local shows you would have critics say "why doesn't the UFC put the shows online".

The real failure of the UFC is that they are not mitigating the consequences that their global strategy has caused.  If Dominic Cruz and TJ Dillashaw had the years that they are having right now in 2005, I think you would have a lot more people going nuts for their potential match up.  But because so much has happened in between the two fights and afterwards people are pretty meh about it.  Stuff like recapping the previous week, few weeks, or months the ufc has had, on their present-day shows would go along way to remind us of those events occurring as opposed to it being washed into the ether.  Even fighter profiles during events to remind us of up-and-coming fighters would keep them in our consciousness, and have us anticipating their return.

The UFCs strong suit has never been to look back; they are a forward minded company which is a good thing in some instances but can be a detriment in others.  I would like to see them do historical retrospectives on their shows like  "on this day in 1998, Pete Williams high kick Mark Coleman  in what was considered a great upset" or "on this week in 2003, Tito Ortiz fought Ken Shamrock in what was the largest UFC to that date".  By appreciating your history, you're not just appreciating yourself but you're appreciating those that took the time to live it with you.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on November 20, 2014, 10:19:15 AM
I understand the UFC is expanding globally and that's why they don't give a shit about watered down cards, it's hard to oversaturate a foreign market you visit once a year that goes crazy just to have a few local fighters and a rooting interest in the main. I don't know how long they can do that, maybe a while.

I was telling someone that Hendricks vs. Lawler would have been the hugest fight in 2006, but today nobody gives a shit. It's like you forget about it, there's no promotion of fighters or special attention paid to match-ups and events. Their marketing is always, "a UFC is on this weekend, watch it." It's always the same, regular fans shouldn't and don't care.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on November 20, 2014, 10:26:16 AM
The best example of the UFC's inattention to promoting is mighty mouse.  DJ is an awesome champion he's finishing fights, he lives up to expectation, his fights are entertaining, it's just his opponents are horrible.  Most great champions have had a foil for them to build upon (Chuck had Tito, Tito had the shamrocks, the shamrocks had the Gracies) and by the UFC not putting any attention to the challengers at 125 it leaves Mighty Mouse left to constantly faced guys the fans have never heard of and therefore cannot shine in his own right. 
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 21, 2014, 01:07:04 AM
It's funny to me that Magny is a contender. He got choked the fuck out by a legit black belt not too long ago, I'm p. sure he'd get starched by anyone in the top 15.

He got a goddamned gift a decision against Alex Garcia. And IIRC this was with Alex fucking his knee up in the first.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on November 21, 2014, 02:23:33 AM
I don't believe the problem is oversaturation (to an extent), because I know I may be in the minority who tries to watch all of the fights on these cards and more fights is good - but I very much think that the main problem with the UFC today is their marketing/promotion team.

They can't make new stars on their own and get mad whenever someone tries to step out of the box (Rampage). Sounds familiar (WWE)?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: MikeofEvil on November 22, 2014, 07:33:30 AM
I also don't think over saturation is a problem, but then again I don't have to pay for any of the shows beyond the subscription for BT Sports in the first place... which I'd have anyway, because of the football.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on December 01, 2014, 02:27:12 AM
To the surprise of nobody but the sadness of all Yves Edwards has announced his retirement. From bell to bell one of the most entertaining and classy dudes to ever put on the gloves. Still holds my favorite head kick KO of all time over Josh Thomson and his fight with Joachim Hansen in the Bushido tourney is a great one.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on December 04, 2014, 08:27:32 AM
It could be trolling but there are some signs pointing towards Rampage returning to UFC. He's been featured as a dlc for the new UFC game which is kinda odd for a guy fighting in another promotion. Also Matt Hammil is coming out retirement (again, ugh) and tweeted to Scott Coker that he wants a rematch with Rampage. Rampage sent out a tweet today saying that he knows all the guys in Bellator calling him out don't want to fight him but that it might be too late.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on December 04, 2014, 08:38:55 AM
I also don't think over saturation is a problem, but then again I don't have to pay for any of the shows beyond the subscription for BT Sports in the first place... which I'd have anyway, because of the football.

A few years ago to see a ppv at Buffalo Wild Wings you'd have to get to the resturant two hours before the start time and there was a lengthy wait to get in. Now you can stroll in right at 10pm and get seated. At least it's the case at the fee I've been to.

They've lost the very casual viewers. Over saturation may not have been the main problem but o think it's hurt some.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: JHawk on December 04, 2014, 08:40:28 AM
All the BW3s within 30 miles of me stopped even carrying them because they were no longer getting enough people coming in to justify the cost of ordering them.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on December 04, 2014, 08:54:14 AM
This explains why Dana is even entertaining the idea of signing CM Punk I suppose.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on December 04, 2014, 09:41:20 AM
I think he'd be great in some sort of announce/interview position
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on December 05, 2014, 12:46:19 AM
Anybody but Karen Bryant.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on December 05, 2014, 04:34:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h29kjYWbIbw

The Brazil Budweiser and Nike ads for Anderson or JDS are the best
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Mildly Threatening Damon on December 05, 2014, 05:34:56 PM
Invicta FC spoiler

Spoiler: show
Herica Tiburcio submitted Michelle Waterson in the third round with a guillotine to win the Invicta Atomweight title.  Fun fight.  Tiburcio fought like a true veteran and put Michelle in a lot of dangerous positions.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on December 06, 2014, 02:47:33 AM
The ufc has had a really shit year with their champs.  Cain didn't fight at all, jones fought once, Weidman fought once, Hendricks once, Pettis once.  The only champs that fought more than once are in the lower weight classes that haven't picked up traction yet.  It is in their best interest to oversee how their champions train, because they've prob lost a lot of money due to improperly run camps.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Grit, Toughness, Soul, & Spirit on December 06, 2014, 08:28:27 AM
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Dana White has acknowledged that he’s interested in potentially bringing CM Punk into the UFC. White appeared on the Jim Rome Show (via MMAjunkie) and said that he will speak with Punk at UFC 181 this weekend.

“He left the WWE for whatever reason, he’s a huge fan of the UFC, he’s been training for a few years now, and he’s interested in fighting,” White said. “I’m interested in talking to him. … CM Punk is coming to the show this weekend, and we’re going to talk.”

As to whether Punk can compete, White said, “You never know (if he can fight) until you get in there. I didn’t know if Brock could fight. I thought Brock was crazy for coming over here. But, the difference with Brock Lesnar is Brock was a world-class wrestler. I don’t know. We’ll see.”

As to what they would do with Punk, White said, “He’s not a guy that we would do what we did with Brock; we threw Brock right to the wolves. Brock started fighting all the top heavyweights in the world because of his wrestling background. CM Punk, we would bring him in just like any regular fighter, and he would fight a guy with a similar record to his, which is 0-0.”

Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: MikeofEvil on December 06, 2014, 10:10:03 AM
This is all part of Paul Heyman's secret ongoing plan for world domination.

Hell, I'd watch UFC with CM Punk in it. I'll admit that I started watching UFC regularly because Lesnar showed up and I was intensely curious what would happen. Bearing in mind that ol' Phil Brooks was one of the WWE's biggest stars for a few years I imagine there are people now for whom he would have the same "...I wonder?" effect as Lesnar did for me.

I can't help but wonder how they'd market him, though. Phil 'CM Punk' Brooks, in the same way as they talk about Shogun? Phil Brooks by itself might not have the instant name recognition they'd need.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on December 06, 2014, 10:15:05 AM
I don't think he's very good. As much as he's trained, he's just some dude who isn't that athletic to begin with plus the wear and tear of a life of rasslin'. Brawk was a prime athlete with legit dominance in a combat sports background. Not to mention, one of the most athletic people I've ever seen.

It will draw some people but not much, and they'd have to bring him along VERY slowly and he'll probably end up sucking anyway. Way different situation than Lesnar.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lei Tong on December 08, 2014, 01:11:38 PM
Different in terms of competitive ceiling, but he's already causing up-ticks on the business side. Even the most anti-pro wrestling MMA journalists out there are getting major traffic and content hard ons.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: AA484 on December 08, 2014, 01:15:20 PM
Woah, it's Lei Tong!  Been nursing a three-year hangover?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on December 08, 2014, 01:19:55 PM
If they put him against another beginner he might not fair too badly.  Given the people he already trains with, it's a big step up from most newbies.  The biggest issue to me is the speed factor and how he would handle a weight cut.  At his age and the wear his body has taken,  he may not have the fast twitch reflexes needed to compete.  And given all the stuff he has to learn, I doubt they'll be focusing a lot on his reaction time. 

That said, if he is able to take it to the mat and slow it down, he could do well. 
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on December 08, 2014, 01:25:30 PM
I see it kinda like Mitrione. Meathead played football. Punk wrestled. Mitrione was 0-0 in his debut.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on December 08, 2014, 01:33:56 PM
I think heavyweight is a little different because of the lack of depth and skill level.  You can get a lot further on a lot less.  Which is why a cut to 170 is retarded given the talent in that division.  185 has some good guys, but it's like a lot of tim boetch good.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on December 08, 2014, 01:39:17 PM
For the record, they would have to change state laws in Maine to let tim boetch back in after a bout with punk. I'm just sayin it's a less steep mountain to climb (a mount Katadhin if you will, to the ww divisions k2)
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on December 08, 2014, 01:48:23 PM
It's different to a point but I also don't think the goal is to be champion or even ranked.

Personally, I see 1, maybe 2 fights and then he's an onscreen persona for Zuffa.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on December 09, 2014, 02:25:31 AM
It's Herschel Walker all over again.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on December 09, 2014, 02:26:33 AM
Without the natural athletic ability.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on December 09, 2014, 12:23:50 PM
I don't know how the UFC is gonna use him but if I was match making I would match him up against a flashy striker who is absolutely atrocious in the grappling department. If Punk ever fights I expect him to lose and if he loses a boring fight than your gonna lose all the casuals who only watched for punk. If you feed him to a flashy striker than a good percentage of those casuals will go "Holy shit this sport is so exciting" and you may keep them watching... lol probably not.

So yeah I'd seriously try to match him like this is the beginning days of the UFC.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on December 10, 2014, 01:05:59 AM
"Anthony Njokuani back to UFC for MW Debut"
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on December 10, 2014, 02:27:29 AM
CM Punk vs Nam Phan at 185 lbs.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on December 10, 2014, 02:53:28 AM
No way Coker gives up his best punching bag.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on December 12, 2014, 09:32:23 AM
Random thing I noticed when looking through a few events on Wiki; a lot of the attendance figures are usually 1/2-2/3 of capacity. That's p. low on a consistent basis, isn't it? That goes for the UFC's events abroad too. The ones at home are usually at the lower end of that scale. Costa vs. Rockhold was just slightly above a 1/3. I know the live gate minus the low fighter pay means that they aren't struggling, but that's gotta be a concerning statistic right? Thinking about future sustainability plus the fact that local fanbases are alienated (either due to indifference, being outpriced, combination of the two) and that doesn't sound good. Bellator obviously isn't doing much better.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on December 12, 2014, 12:46:26 PM
Don't worry bro with all the shows that UFC run they break even.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on December 13, 2014, 04:49:00 PM
It's funny that the ufc has it's best crop of champions in its current title holders and they have zero idea how to market them.  Dana knows how to promote Chuck Liddell and that's about it.  I mean honestly, puff daddy to promote jones/dc?  Surely there has been some song in this decade that would be used here better?  I think their current style is people yelling at a camera in various settings.  "Alright, you're yelling in the rain" "you're yelling in a gym" "you're yelling from atop a building".
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Brodypedia on December 14, 2014, 05:36:26 AM
http://cmpunk.com/cmpunk/ask-punk

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If you get fired from wwe would you go back to roh or any other fed? No. I will sign a fat Pride contract and get paid more money than you’ll ever see in your entire life to get knocked out by Mirko CroCop in under 7 seconds in what Dave Meltzer will hail as the best shoot fight of the year due to my aweome attempt to tell the ref that he pulled my hair."

Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on December 17, 2014, 01:01:42 AM
So, on the off chance that Mitch Gagnon upsets Barao this weekend wtf does UFC do with him? He's only fought on a main card once, never been on ppv, no name value but he just knocked off the #2/#3 fighter in the division. On top of that his visa issues prevent him from fighting in the US.

I don't think this will happen but the timing is ripe for an upset given what Barao has been through recently and with how horrible of a year it's been for Nova Uniao.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on December 17, 2014, 01:37:19 AM
haha imagine if you made that post in APRIL

"hey guys what do you think would happen if Mitch Gagnon beat Rena--"

** BANNED FOR TROLLING **
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on December 17, 2014, 01:56:02 AM
I'm curious to see what kind of gameplan Barao implements here. TJ fucking his shit up standing could make him fight very tenative and even though his ground game is world class he's never had more then solid but average wrestling and Mitch has great takedown d.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on December 18, 2014, 11:36:36 PM
Cody Mckenzie reti--
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@TheCodyMcKenzie  ·  15h 15 hours ago
I'm done fighting I would call it retiring but I never made no money so yea I quit.

because of this:

http://giant.gfycat.com/GlisteningParallelErmine.webm

Here he is talking about the lawsuit:

http://youtu.be/mDxpM7-rIGs?t=2m39s

lol Dana making fun of him for that is kinda wack though.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on December 19, 2014, 09:36:50 AM
http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/12/19/7423375/tsn-looks-to-be-the-new-home-for-ufc-programming-in-canada

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MMA Fighting’s Dave Meltzer reports that TSN appears to have retained UFC programming in Canada.  The inference of the deal was made as January network scheduling for TSN came out including UFC programming.

Good news. Was hearing people float stuff like making all Canadian programming Fight Pass only or a split with TSN and the Fight Network. No excuses not to show everything live with 5 channels either.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on December 20, 2014, 01:56:47 AM
From what I've heard it's going to be on TSN4 which I did not know existed.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on December 20, 2014, 09:16:08 AM
there are 5! lol
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on December 20, 2014, 10:40:08 AM
Jingus claims Bob Sapp wasn't a can before the Lashley fight
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on December 20, 2014, 01:57:57 PM
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Jeremy Botter ‏@jeremybotter  10m10 minutes ago
The Bellator side believes Rampage/UFC are violating contract. Rampage believes Bellator in breach. This will be fun!

I feel like this is a foolish thing to do with the impending lawsuit, but KOAB's conspiracy theory about them doing this to prove they need to steal from Bellator and that it's not a monopoly and that they're all on the same level is SO DAMN CRAZY THAT IT JUST MIGHT WORK
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on December 20, 2014, 02:08:01 PM
Who do they have that they can build a fight with Rampage? Anyone he's competitive with is retired
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on December 20, 2014, 02:22:20 PM
lol we don't have a thread for this card.

Some of the fights were decent I guess, but the last three should be fun regardless of what happens. Feel bad for Rhodes, he was given a murderer's row when he should have been brought along more slowly.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on December 20, 2014, 03:09:15 PM
...my feed for the show went away and now I'm getting old fights.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on December 20, 2014, 03:11:57 PM
Looks like it's back. That was weird.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on December 20, 2014, 03:27:06 PM
Their Brazil feed was lost.

Cummins looked alright, but it's hard for me to tell if any of these guys are good lol

Gagnon recovered smartly there, but Barao was tentative. I don't think he realized how badly he rocked Gagnon and how ready he was to be put away. Mitch did well to take advantage of that lackadaisical approach. He doesn't look out of depth but he will probably be on the losing end of a hard-fought decision here. Gotta defend the leg kicks to survive though.

He's getting good clinch positions but can't finish but I'm impressed by the pressure with which he's fighting. Barao's takedown defense is obviously world class.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on December 20, 2014, 03:38:01 PM
One bad mistake with the head and arm throw (desperation move, I get it) and Gagnon gets finished with a minute left. No worries, I get trying to make something happen. He had a good performance.

Barao showed great finishing skills on the ground once he got his opportunity, devastating top position and he snatched that arm triangle p. quickly. With their wrestling and striking though, he would get wrecked by either TJ or Dominick.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on December 20, 2014, 03:47:24 PM
lol CB is walking out to some Toby Keith type shit with an American flag. I dig that swag.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on December 20, 2014, 03:57:22 PM
lirl

HE DID NOT BELONG BUT THANKS FOR THE HIGHLIGHT
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: NoCalMike on December 20, 2014, 03:59:42 PM
Barao had a nice finish, but I didn't think he dominated that fight nearly as much as KenFlo seemed to think.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on December 20, 2014, 04:01:20 PM
he didn't, it was clear but close.

That body kick was destructive, gonna be on body shot ko highlights for years to come.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: NoCalMike on December 20, 2014, 04:03:45 PM
This is probably the last time we will ever hear "....your main event of the evening" followed by "....CB Dolloway"
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Mildly Threatening Damon on December 20, 2014, 09:30:34 PM
Machida using CB's liver for batting practice was so violent.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: MikeofEvil on December 21, 2014, 06:34:30 AM
Was that the liver? We thought it looked too high and more like he'd broken a rib or something.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on December 22, 2014, 12:52:49 AM
Ribs for sure.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on December 22, 2014, 07:24:28 AM
Cruz has torn his right ACL now. That's twice in his left knee, and now once in his right. It may be time to call it a career.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on December 22, 2014, 07:39:35 AM
I wanted to lol but it's too ridiculous to be funny anymore. Hang 'em up.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on December 22, 2014, 08:04:00 AM
It's too sad to laugh about now and if he is in fact done it's absolutely fucking cruel that he came back and had the performance he did against Mizugaki only to be forced into retirement.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on December 22, 2014, 08:15:18 AM
He won't retire, who knows how he looks when he comes back.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on December 22, 2014, 08:16:47 AM
grabakahitman on his twitter pointed out that Shogun KO'd Lyoto inside of one round with knees that barely worked so I guess there's still hope for Dom.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on December 22, 2014, 08:20:47 AM
http://www.tsn.ca/tsn-rds-and-fight-network-become-new-canadian-home-for-ufc-1.166213

Official press release about the TSN UFC programming deal.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on December 22, 2014, 08:22:09 AM
Ugh, Fight Network getting events. Streaming it is.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on December 22, 2014, 08:43:49 AM
http://mmakanvas.ninemsn.com.au/articles/news/2549/mark-hunt.html

Great interview with Mark Hunt. Can't wait to read his book.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on December 22, 2014, 08:45:32 AM
GOD DAMN IT DC!

Also - Assuncao also broke his ankle, so that means Barao will probably/most likely get the next title shot.

Some witch doctors at Nova Uniao.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on December 22, 2014, 08:48:20 AM
Faber and TJ said they'd avoid a fight if they could but this seems like the type of scenario where UFC would push for it to happen. Way more marketable, built-in storyline and absolutely zero people want to see Barao challenge for the belt.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on December 22, 2014, 09:07:35 AM
Hey now, they need a viable main event when Dana "makes it up to us" for 149.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: cheex incarnate on December 22, 2014, 10:33:43 AM
Regarding the Fight Network deal:

So I don't have cable, but I do have the 2.99 live stream of the fight network over my roku. Will I be able to watch the fight nights over that service?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: cheex incarnate on December 22, 2014, 10:29:48 PM
Guess not. Looks like fight network are airing 'international' fight nights (so fight pass cards I assume) and non ppv prelims
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on December 27, 2014, 02:49:02 AM
HSJ's homie FrontRowBrian done got himself a parody twitter account and lord am I chuckling.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on December 29, 2014, 12:43:09 AM
http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/12/26/7452017/lyoto-machida-proves-to-be-needle-mover-on-fox-sports-1

It gives me hope that a guy like Machida has proven to be such a draw.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on December 29, 2014, 01:11:57 AM
https://www.facebook.com/fabriciowerdumoficial/photos/a.343123315767570.80375.343081719105063/758866330859931/?type=1

(https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10383655_758866330859931_3095501296710931917_n.jpg?oh=5f6da09cfd47b9eb9bfb68092042b097&oe=54FFA40E)

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Fabricio Werdum
Café da manhã com as neguinhas!

See Translation:

Breakfast with the nigger s'!
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on December 29, 2014, 01:23:36 AM
Werdum is the best.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on December 30, 2014, 03:17:32 AM
Add Michael Johnson to the list of domestic abusers who train at the Blackzillians camp.

"UFC lightweight Michael Johnson was ineligible to compete in the UFC organization following his arrest regarding a domestic dispute in Palm Beach County, Florida in April 2014. Given that the allegations against Johnson constituted a potential violation of the UFC Fighter Conduct Policy, the UFC organization temporarily barred Johnson from competition pending the completion of a third-party investigation. Following a thorough review and investigation—including personal interviews with Johnson and independent confirmation that he has satisfied all obligations required by the UFC—Johnson is once again eligible to compete and will begin training for his next fight at UFC Fight Night: Evans vs. Teixeira in Porto Alegre, Brazil. The UFC will continue to monitor Johnson’s status. He must fully comply with the UFC Fighter Conduct Policy and all other contractual and additional obligations in order to continue competing in the UFC."
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: MikeofEvil on December 30, 2014, 08:45:38 AM
...that statement doesn't seem to make clear whether or not he was found guilty of the charges.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on December 31, 2014, 12:20:01 AM
He wasn't, he's a free man and that's why he's back. There was an investigation for a while, and that's why the UFC didn't make any plans for him.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on December 31, 2014, 12:27:11 AM
Cro-Cop and Aoki won their NYE fights in Japan. Shinya threw down a ma'fuckin TWISTER.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on December 31, 2014, 01:42:07 AM
He wasn't, he's a free man and that's why he's back. There was an investigation for a while, and that's why the UFC didn't make any plans for him.

Read the statement again. There's a whole lotta double talk and language designed to confuse the reader into thinking Johnson was innocent. Honestly, what the fuck does "satisfied all obligations" mean?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on January 02, 2015, 03:38:27 AM
Good on MMAJunkie for poaching Brent Brookhouse from Bloody Elbow. They (Junkie) have always seemed borderline tabloid reporting at times, Brent is arguably the best in the game and should up their credibility significantly.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: MikeofEvil on January 03, 2015, 04:05:22 AM
He wasn't, he's a free man and that's why he's back. There was an investigation for a while, and that's why the UFC didn't make any plans for him.

Read the statement again. There's a whole lotta double talk and language designed to confuse the reader into thinking Johnson was innocent. Honestly, what the fuck does "satisfied all obligations" mean?

Exactly. 'Satisfied all obligations' doesn't tell us what those obligations were, or whether he'd been found guilty. If the charges were unfounded, why not say so outright?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Grit, Toughness, Soul, & Spirit on January 03, 2015, 09:29:32 AM
Bloody Elbow ‏@BloodyElbow 4m

Mohegan commission denies 371lb. Tim Sylvia medical clearance to compete on Saturday night http://sbnation.com/e/7250440

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6cfHpfIIAAglUE.jpg)

LOL
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on January 05, 2015, 07:48:43 AM
And now he's retired because of something they found on his MRI  :'(
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on January 06, 2015, 03:28:02 AM
No details on the platform it's going to be released on but TUF 21 as rumoured will be a camp vs camp season featuring American Top Team and The Blackzillians.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on January 06, 2015, 03:40:21 AM
Apparently the MRI that cancelled Sylvia's appearance has something to do with blunt force trauma to the head being a lot worse now than a previous one from 2003.

Also the reason he got these extra tests in the first place was due to his real age being 40, not 38 as it's listed on the fight finder. I guess this guy was so insecure that he lied about his age for years. Even in the UFC, I'm quite sure that his age was always listed as if he'd been born in 1976.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on January 06, 2015, 05:13:41 AM
When you're that overweight and unattractive I don't understand why age all of a sudden becomes something to lie about.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on January 13, 2015, 01:19:21 AM
Sad news for fans of Dagestan Violence as Adlan Amagov has decided to walk away from fighting to focus on his family. He retires with a record of 12-2-1 and a legally sanctioned homicide of TJ Waldburger.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on January 13, 2015, 04:02:50 AM
I heard that dude was going to become an imam.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on January 13, 2015, 08:08:07 AM
http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/1/11/7525379/cody-garbrandts-first-ufc-victory-was-story-shared-fulfilment

Great piece by Chuck Mindenhall on Cody Garbrandt's rough upbringing and his relationship with a young boy diagnosed with cancer. Be warned: you'll be cutting onions by the time you're finished reading.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on January 13, 2015, 08:35:38 AM
I read that yesterday. It's a good article and an even better story.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on January 13, 2015, 08:40:38 AM
It's a shame that the kid wasn't close to cageside because him being there with Cody after he won would have reduced everybody watching to blubbering piles of saline.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on January 13, 2015, 08:46:56 AM
I hope they let the kid walk Cody to the cage.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on January 14, 2015, 03:00:57 AM
The Main Card for the UFC this Sunday is starting at 10, so it should start after the football game finishes. Even if the game is really long and goes into a couple of overtimes, it should still finish before Cowboy/Bendo.

They're actually advertising this card on TV with a start time of "After the AFC Championship Game finishes" lol
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on January 14, 2015, 03:38:30 AM
UFC is looking at Kelvin Gastelum and Hector Lombard as the next coaches of TUF Latin America.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on January 16, 2015, 01:45:47 AM
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As a german I have to say that the subtitles are mostly made up by the ufc's editors. He says "ich halte nichts von seinen Vorhersagen, deswegen habe ich es gesagt." which translates as "I don't give anything about his predictions [to k.o. me in 2 minutes] that's why i said it. [refering to his kiss my ass comment]. The editors translated it as " conor mcgregor is not a great fighter" lol.
Also when the subtitles say " he's the opposite of a professional athlete" Siver actually says "His style is to attack people verbally, normally I'm the opposite of this and this behaviour is not my thing."
Siver is a polite guy but the UFC is trying to make it look otherwise

This is p. low rent.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on January 16, 2015, 02:59:43 AM
Yeah and lol at Dana saying that if Siver won he'd fight Aldo in Germany. No, dude. He won't.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on January 16, 2015, 05:51:24 AM
http://fightland.vice.com/blog/suffolk-county-meets-inner-mongolia-at-ufc-boston (http://fightland.vice.com/blog/suffolk-county-meets-inner-mongolia-at-ufc-boston)

Fun little article that centers around a pretty important fight to me this weekend in Boston - one of my coaches Chris Wade vs. Lipeng Zhang on the prelims.

Chris Wade about Long Island - “There is this something about the people here on the island, the way of life, the grind,” he told me. “You can't just have an easy life; if you don't get ahead, don't out grind and outwork people, you’re going to have to pack up your bags and move somewhere else.”

WWWYKI
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on January 16, 2015, 06:40:18 AM
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Howard, a native of Dorchester, Mass., is scheduled to fight in Sunday’s UFC event at TD Garden. It should be a memorable experience for the local product, but he’ll always remember the time he sparred with Boston Marathon bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev.

Tsarnaev, an amateur boxer, trained at Howard’s gym in Allston, Mass. The two sparred one day and emotions ran high. According to Howard, Tsarnaev got too cocky, so “Doomsday” took it upon himself to teach his opponent a lesson. He apparently broke Tsarnaev’s nose amid a TKO.

“The sparring happened — it was back and forth — but one day, he got a little touchy, a little cocky,” Howard recently recounted in a Boston.com interview. “When he did that, the spar got live. And when it got live, we went at it to try to take each other’s head off. But I got the best end of him and I hit him with a shot to the nose. As he covered up, I hit him to the body and dropped him. A technical knockout if you want to call it.

“He got humbled that day, definitely.”

John Howard always seemed like a likeable guy, but this makes him next level.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on January 16, 2015, 06:51:48 AM
#BostonStrongBeforeThereWasSuchAThing
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on January 17, 2015, 09:57:24 AM
Siver looks a lot leaner, lost a lot of muscle mass, I wonder if that will help his speed. 
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on January 18, 2015, 03:48:22 AM
Grabakahitman retweeted a rumor that Anderson got knocked out in sparring last week in L.A. Hasn't been verified with multiple sources but if that's true it's certainly not good, both from a health perspective and also the chance that he doesn't pass his medicals.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on January 18, 2015, 12:23:43 PM
lol no thread for this event. Larkin looked amazing, to finish Howard like that shows how dangerous he is at 170.

He looks powerful for this weight but I'm curious as to how the cut will affect him in long wars. Still, to finish a guy like Howard who is normally really durable is impressive.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on January 18, 2015, 12:38:05 PM
Boring fight but my man Chris Wade gets the win for Long Island!
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on January 18, 2015, 01:33:34 PM
I can't recall a tibeau fight I've ever enjoyed.  I know I've seen him fight at least a dozen times.

Also, Goldberg has been extra motivated with the stats tonight.  Heaven help us.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on January 18, 2015, 01:39:04 PM
That Jon Jones interview commercial brewed a ridiculous thought in my head. Since they weren't supposed to be testing for cocaine, what if the positive test was released by the UFC to gain him fans?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on January 18, 2015, 02:15:30 PM
That's the Nate Diaz theory
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on January 18, 2015, 02:15:44 PM
I can't recall a tibeau fight I've ever enjoyed.  I know I've seen him fight at least a dozen times.


16 UFC WINS UFC LEGEND BRO THIRD ALL TIME
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on January 18, 2015, 02:22:12 PM
Cowboy looks like he's on another level as far as the hands go, at least so far.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on January 18, 2015, 02:25:50 PM
Why isn't Benson trying to wrestle?

His kicks are good at keeping Donald too far away to use his punches, I have it 1-1 going into the third.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on January 18, 2015, 02:32:28 PM
Why isn't Benson trying to wrestle?

His kicks are good at keeping Donald too far away to use his punches, I have it 1-1 going into the third.

Same here. Henderson kicked his way into a 10-9 second round. Judges love this guy. Cowboy may need a finish no matter how good of a third round he has.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on January 18, 2015, 02:36:48 PM
These guys deserve five rounds, Conor isn't going to need more than a couple anyway.

Poor Cowboy, I have it 2-1 Bendo but the last round was really close.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on January 18, 2015, 02:38:26 PM
2-1 Henderson as well. I think he won 2 clearly and 3 enough.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on January 18, 2015, 02:41:06 PM
lol even Donald looks surprised. The first fight was close and probably should have gone to Donald so let's say they're all square.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on January 18, 2015, 02:42:04 PM
Whoa. Disagree.

Buuuut How does it feel, Ben? You're likely owed another bad decision.

Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on January 18, 2015, 02:43:07 PM
Benson looks hurt that people booed him.

Can't believe this guy is repping pure Seahawks gear, fuck you Reebok.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on January 18, 2015, 02:43:14 PM
Ben looks furious.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on January 18, 2015, 02:44:46 PM
We need a gif of Aldo not giving a fuck when the camera is on him.

Can't wait to see him and Conor confront each other after the Siver fight. Aldo is already looking pissed that he has to deal with that shit.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on January 18, 2015, 02:48:21 PM
They even have an outro of Conor telling you to watch the greatest P4P fighter of all time.

People keep talking about Siver as the spoiler. But the real issue here is that after all this hype he will still have to back it up against Aldo.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on January 18, 2015, 02:48:59 PM
Wow that was a pretty bad decision.  Bendo def deserved it.  Cowboy needs to take a break, which basically means two months.  He took some head damage there that he may want to let heal before dehydrating his body and taking shots again.  Bendo vs Alvarez still works.  Really liked benson throwing some dirty kicks, hope he keeps it up.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on January 18, 2015, 02:52:00 PM
"it's almost like everyone is looking past Siver"

Yes Joe, we are. The UFC hyping up Conor to no end doesn't help.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on January 18, 2015, 02:53:11 PM
lol you think it's a coincidence that they're playing the evil-sounding, deep bass techno film score for ZE GERMAN
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on January 18, 2015, 02:54:51 PM
CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES THIS IS MY LAST RESORT
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on January 18, 2015, 02:55:16 PM
Papa Roach, huh? Yeah. He's gotta go.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on January 18, 2015, 02:59:53 PM
The superficial hype though is gonna be reinforced to high hell with this blowout.

lirl we need a gif of that dude with the flag cape who is just clapping and dancing.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on January 18, 2015, 03:03:12 PM
While I wouldn't pick him to win. Conor being an 11 to 1 favorite is a bit much.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on January 18, 2015, 03:03:27 PM
lol Siver said no to touch gloves and got the finger.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on January 18, 2015, 03:03:49 PM
LOL at Conor going full Diaz there.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on January 18, 2015, 03:08:58 PM
"it's almost like...Dennis Siver has no business being in there with him"

LIRL thanks for acknowledging what we were all thinking.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on January 18, 2015, 03:12:40 PM
LOL Aldo didn't get shook at all.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on January 18, 2015, 03:12:57 PM
That was as one-sided an ass whooping as you're going to see.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on January 18, 2015, 03:15:19 PM
Can't wait for that title fight.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on January 18, 2015, 03:19:21 PM
I heard Conor on The MMA Hour before he debuted in the UFC. The guy was so intertaining that I was a fan even before seeing him.

He always sounds like he's on the verge of saying something racist.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on January 18, 2015, 03:19:38 PM
WTF JORGE GURGEL
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on January 18, 2015, 03:21:13 PM
I am so glad I stayed up for this.  Connor jumping the fence and going crazy in front of a laughing Jose Aldo is the best kind of feels. 
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on January 18, 2015, 03:45:26 PM
Also, aldo might be the New York City subway to Connors Bart Simpson hijinx.  Then again, Connor prob has the divisions best punching power.  Poor Frankie Edgar.

My favourite thing over the last week was Connor making fun of the fact that everyone in mma uses traditional Muay Thai techniques.  His style is perfect for exploiting that fact. 
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Amy pats fan on January 18, 2015, 04:09:19 PM
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McGregor calmly ran to the fence, jumped over the fence and went straight for Jose Aldo at ringside.  Security held him back.  Aldo was laughing and smiling through it.  Aldo was sitting right next to McGregor’s girlfriend.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on January 19, 2015, 01:48:10 AM
As of right now Dublin is a no-go for McGregor's title shot as they have a curfew that begins at 11 pm which means it'd have to be an afternoon pay per view which would draw horribly. I think in the end they'll choose Vegas to accomodate the Irish fans that will want to pay to see the show because it's unlikely, despite being hardcore fans that they'd all fly to Brazil.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on January 19, 2015, 06:13:22 AM
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/1/19/7852917/ufc-mma-bj-penn-arrested-following-alleged-drunken-skirmish-at-hotel

Word is BJ looked good early but after the first five minutes he folded mentally.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on January 19, 2015, 08:14:52 AM
The comparisons of Conor to Ali before and after this fight are simply the stupidest things I've ever heard.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on January 19, 2015, 08:17:13 AM
#BlackComparisonsMatter

But seriously, yeah. People need to stop doing it.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on January 19, 2015, 12:28:14 PM
Yeah cuz we all know Ali got his act from classie Freddie blassie . #mostmeltzerthingicouldsay
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on January 19, 2015, 01:58:42 PM
I don't see the Ali comparisons unless they're going by current day Ali since I can't understand Conor half the time.

Now when it comes to true comparisons with this kid's AURA & CHARISMA I see an Irish Bruce Lee.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on January 20, 2015, 02:17:18 AM
Chuck but with better promo skills is the vibe I get and I mean that as a compliment.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on January 20, 2015, 02:38:41 AM
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On January 20th, 2015 at approximately 1:13 am a vehicle was observed traveling southbound on I-69 near the 340 mile marker in Ashley IN with no headlights or taillights traveling at a high rate of speed. Officers attempted to stop the vehicle but the driver, David Herman, refused to stop and led Officers in a 2 ½ -3 mile pursuit. David Herman exited the 334 mile marker exit and drove west on US Highway 6 before stopping at a gas station. David exited his vehicle and approached Officers in an aggressive manner.
David was given multiple warnings to get on the ground and failed to comply. David had to be tased in order to be taken into custody.

Dave should be thankful he's not black.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Just Call Me Dan on January 20, 2015, 06:04:41 AM
Bloody Elbow says Cro Cop back to UFC. He will go 1-4 and retire again, but I know I'm watching
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on January 20, 2015, 06:15:50 AM
Main events one of the upcoming Poland or Germany cards. Calling it right now.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on January 20, 2015, 06:18:57 AM
LOL it wouldn't surprise me if they did that just to make sure he didn't go to Bellator.

This is gonna be ugly to watch. Dana can never say he cares about the well-being of the fighters ever again.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Just Call Me Dan on January 20, 2015, 07:56:06 AM
Crap ton of legend heavyweight fights that will draw money (Bellator 131 style).  This'll be like Affliction for Fedor except with the UFC lining up name only fights for Lesnar.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on January 20, 2015, 09:38:31 AM
For some reason I picture a co-main of Cro Cop/Rampage DREAM FIGHT happening whenever the next UFC in Japan happens.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Grit, Toughness, Soul, & Spirit on January 20, 2015, 10:14:50 AM
CRO COP/ARLOVSKI FINALLY
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on January 20, 2015, 11:22:44 AM
In terms of striking Liddell vs Cro-Cop might be the best fight that never happened but definitely should have.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on January 21, 2015, 05:25:07 AM
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On January 20th, 2015 at approximately 1:13 am a vehicle was observed traveling southbound on I-69 near the 340 mile marker in Ashley IN with no headlights or taillights traveling at a high rate of speed. Officers attempted to stop the vehicle but the driver, David Herman, refused to stop and led Officers in a 2 ½ -3 mile pursuit. David Herman exited the 334 mile marker exit and drove west on US Highway 6 before stopping at a gas station. David exited his vehicle and approached Officers in an aggressive manner.
David was given multiple warnings to get on the ground and failed to comply. David had to be tased in order to be taken into custody.

Dave should be thankful he's not black.

http://deadspin.com/ufc-fighter-tased-by-cops-wife-records-the-whole-thing-1680898725
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on January 21, 2015, 07:04:40 AM
Almost 3 million viewers on FS1 for McGregor/Siver. That is fucking massive.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on January 21, 2015, 07:25:35 AM
Irish MMA Takeover 2k15
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on January 21, 2015, 07:45:30 AM
Except Pendred because he....ya know....sucks.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Just Call Me Dan on January 21, 2015, 09:47:40 AM
Pendred is a true diamond in the rough.  He will be a FANTASTIC opponent for CM Punk.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on January 27, 2015, 01:15:33 AM
This one gets filed under "Could be something, could be nothing" by Cris Cyborg is defending her Invicta belt in L.A at the Shrine Auditorium. This is only noteworthy because it's happening on Friday February 27th, one day before UFC 184. Maybe Lorenzo's negotiations worked.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Just Call Me Dan on January 27, 2015, 02:41:50 AM
We still don't even know if she can make 135!
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on January 27, 2015, 02:52:59 AM
I think despite all the shit she's talked Rousey would meet her at 140 lbs for a catchweight fight. This is the only fight where people would tune in other then to see Ronda and she knows there's money to be made.

Actually, she's kinda dumb so maybe she doesn't.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on January 27, 2015, 02:58:11 AM
I don't think Rousey would budge a single pound to meet Cyborg at any catchweight.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on January 27, 2015, 03:00:17 AM
I know that's what she's said but I think if she looks at the lineup of challengers after Zingano it's a really short list and nobody under Zuffa contract right now would generate the hype that a Cyborg fight would.

Either that or UFC is signing Cyborg on good faith that she can make weight which is incredibly fucking stupid.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Just Call Me Dan on January 27, 2015, 03:05:37 AM
They must be listening to Mike Dolce or something.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on January 28, 2015, 12:57:02 AM
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/1/28/7927007/ufc-wmma-joanne-calderwood-notes-the-irony-of-herrig-vanzant-match-up-inactivity

Oh JoJo, stop making me fall further in love with you.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on January 28, 2015, 02:42:20 AM
I can't understand why she isn't booked for the Poland card yet. But she will have a fight on the July card in Scotland...she has to.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on January 28, 2015, 02:46:37 AM
Yeah, that's a gimme but she wants to fight again beforehand. I don't see why she couldn't face Randa, Torres or Penne before then.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 03, 2015, 08:38:32 AM
http://mmajunkie.com/2015/02/mma-ref-josh-rosenthal-out-of-prison-next-month-18-months-shy-of-scheduled-sentence

YES PLEASE COME BACK THE BEST REF IN THE BIZ WE NEED YOU
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 03, 2015, 08:50:26 AM
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He explained recently on Submission Radio that he was taking a refereeing class under ‘Big’ John McCarthy, when McCarthy used Trigg’s fight against Lawler as an example, and not a good one.

“He hits play right, and it’s a blank screen. I don’t see it’s my fight. It’s a blank screen. Boom. It’s my fight that comes on, I’m watching it. I’m like ‘very funny John. That’s very funny.’ He says ‘no, watch this fight.’ So now I’m watching it for the first time as a referee. I’m watching it for a first time as somebody that protects the fighters life. I go back and I look at my medical records after, I’m done watching the fight with Big John McCarthy. I go back and see that fight. I had like 500 millilitres of blood in my lungs. I had aspirated that much blood, I swallowed that much blood, inhaled that much blood in that time. Mind you if your lungs get full of blood, you can’t get oxygen to your body, so I’m starting to slow down.

“So you see me, so my thought process in the fight in the fourth round is; I’m extremely tired. I told Randy Couture who’s in my corner and John Louis who was also in my corner, I said ‘look guys, if this fight doesn’t end in the fourth, I don’t know if I can make it to the fifth. I’m falling apart out here.’ [They respond] like ‘don’t worry about it. Go get it, go get it. It’s great, it’s great. Go get it.'”

“Okay. So in the middle of the round I go ‘I need a break. I need to take a tough 10 to 15 seconds out to catch my breath.’ I put myself in the corner and that’s when Robbie hits me. I am exhausted. In my head I have my hands up, I’m protecting my face, I’m completely fine. I watch the film, my hands are down by my hips, I take three straight shots to the head. When he hit the uppercut at the end, I didn’t even feel it. I’m out. I’m already out.”

“He stripped my vision in my left eye for like eight or nine months after that fight because he hit me with my eye open. I couldn’t see it anything. I had no peripheral vision. And the basis of what that fight did – I’ve talked to a couple of people, I’ve talked to Big John, I’ve had my doctors now look at the medical records and do all that stuff – That fight nearly killed me. If I’d gone into the fifth round I probably would have died in the stretcher on the way to the hospital.”

“So that fight, when everyone goes ‘what’s your toughest fight?’ The Lawler fight. ‘What’s the one fight that you regret doing?’ The Lawler fight. “What’s the one fight that you wish you could have done differently?” The Lawler fight. ‘Cause that fight changed me for the rest of my career and probably for the rest of my life. It’s fights like that, that cause dementia and concussion problems later in life, and give you Parkinsons, and things like that, that boxers are getting. It’s going through a bunch of fights like that, that causes it. That causes that problem. “

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In round 2 Lawler landed a big right hand that rocked Trigg backwards and half way across the ring to the mat. Lawler hesitated, thinking he might have just won, but Trigg was still awake. In Round 4 Lawler landed two hooks, a left and a right, that caused Trigg to go limp, dropping into the corner turnbuckle. As Trigg slumped down, Lawler threw a bonus punch right to the cheek of the unconscious Trigg.

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6vptwoF951ry1rm7o1_250.gif)

I'm a huge Lawler fan but that shit still makes me uncomfortable.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 03, 2015, 08:56:24 AM
Jon Jones went through all of the big wrestling cliques on Sunday:

(http://scontent-b.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/t51.2885-15/e15/10946334_1409893452640693_726253238_n.jpg)

FOUR HORSEMEN

(http://scontent-a.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfa1/t51.2885-15/e15/10964009_798131930234790_1297528811_n.jpg)

DEEE GENERATION X

(http://scontent-a.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/l/t51.2885-15/e15/10956876_1404074366560223_746873011_n.jpg)

The Kliq is toooo sweeeet
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 04, 2015, 01:08:04 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9ADdAXIQAA0iHu.jpg)
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 04, 2015, 01:17:25 AM
Knew it.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on February 04, 2015, 01:27:44 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/z2FKndC.gif)
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: MikeofEvil on February 04, 2015, 09:39:02 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9ADdAXIQAA0iHu.jpg)

Help someone out with poor facial recognition skills?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 04, 2015, 09:46:16 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9ADdAXIQAA0iHu.jpg)

Help someone out with poor facial recognition skills?

(http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/mma/players/full/2500160.png&w=350&h=254)
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: MikeofEvil on February 05, 2015, 04:42:10 AM
...is that Schaub?

Seriously, apart from a few of pretty distinctive-looking fighters, if I don't have a caption I'm going to struggle. One of the great disappointments of my day-to-day life is that people don't walk around wearing name badges all the time.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 06, 2015, 08:20:10 AM
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6m
 Steven Marrocco        ✔ @MMAjunkieSteven
BREAKING: Jon Fitch failed a pre-fight drug test in connection with WSOF 16, CSAC says.

1m
 caposa @GrabakaHitman
I don't know what Fitch popped for, but yeah, most top level fighters are on some shit.
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lollll
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 06, 2015, 08:20:45 AM
...is that Schaub?

lol yeah that's Schaub bro. You got that Oliver Sachs facial recognition illness, brother.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 06, 2015, 08:22:09 AM
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6m
 Steven Marrocco        ✔ @MMAjunkieSteven
BREAKING: Jon Fitch failed a pre-fight drug test in connection with WSOF 16, CSAC says.

1m
 caposa @GrabakaHitman
I don't know what Fitch popped for, but yeah, most top level fighters are on some shit.
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lollll

Probably something to build up muscle mass in the legs to fight off heel hooks and kneebars. Shit didn't work, obvs.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on February 06, 2015, 08:26:07 AM
Heroin is my guess
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 06, 2015, 08:37:50 AM
Fitch seems like more of a weed/shrooms kinda guy.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 06, 2015, 01:53:46 PM
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/2/5/7983593/michael-bisping-nick-diaz-marijuana-drug-test-stupid

would loooove that fight
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 08, 2015, 02:43:27 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/CQuXv9R.jpg)

lmao billion dollar divorce coming up perhaps? Imagine if the UFC had to fold because this dude accidentally tweeted to some chick that isn't his wife about how he wants to meet up.

That's a UFC ring girl that he accidentally tweeted at btw. He deleted it right after.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 09, 2015, 08:53:13 AM
Anderson done been pulled as a coach on TUF Brazil, Big Nog steps in to take his place. Not Little Nog which would make sense as they could rematch him and Shogun.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on February 09, 2015, 08:57:48 AM
Shogun probably beats Big Nog if they fight
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 11, 2015, 03:14:07 AM
"People need to realize that is a weapon and they're bringing a weapon into the cage and they're making our sport unsafe," said Rousey. "The day that a person dies in that Octagon and the person who killed them tests positive for performance-enhancing drugs, we're going to have our first homicide case. It's going to destroy the whole sport."

Holy fuck keep this woman away from a mic at all costs.

Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on February 11, 2015, 03:41:00 AM
I get that she's the face of the company now because she's cute and far and away the best of a bad division. But when she decides to speak out from time to time she just sounds stupid.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 11, 2015, 03:43:01 AM
If people paid attention to things she says the way they dissect the comments of guys like Jones and Diaz she'd be getting absolutely slaughtered in the media.

But hey, hot and violent.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 12, 2015, 02:19:13 AM
Meltzer is saying that Rashad's ACL cadaver was rejected by his body and he's out another 7 months, minimum.

Career over?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on February 12, 2015, 07:21:20 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/7mUCESY.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/qntJcrG.jpg)

I'm stunned Mayhem didn't just fall into some announcer role in a smaller org and/or end up doing the straight to VOD and Wal-Mart bargain bin movies so many other fighters are getting into now. I'm also surprised he hasn't done anything serious enough to be tossed into prison yet for at least a couple of a years considering the "menace" he's been to his community since the UFC got rid of him.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 12, 2015, 07:29:38 AM
I gotta wonder over the years how much of it has been legit mental health issues and how much of it is just him being a belligerent prick.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 12, 2015, 07:52:56 AM
I bet mental health issues, he always seemed like a super nice guy when 'normal'. When off-balance, he's like a different person.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 12, 2015, 05:19:40 PM
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"The truth is we were having an argument and he started to yell," Botti posted to Facebook. "[He said], 'If you keep talking I can't fucking talk' and repeated that a few times before he went crazy and flipped the glass table of the desk to the floor and came after me with multiple punches on my head while I was seating [sic] in the chair.

"I stood up leaning my back against the wall and all I did was cover my eye with one arm and yell "my eye you son of b*tch don't touch my eye" while he was throwing punches in my head."
...
"His muay thai coach and only witness didn't stop him, he slowly walked behind him and said "ok, enough" so he basically stopped because he wanted to. Then the muay thai coach was in between me and him and I said "you are a piece of shit coward because you know I can't fight back" and I said "If I could we would fight til someone die here, I don't punch not because I don't have balls but because I can go blind forever" and as soon as I said that he pushed his friend out of his way and came after me again with another set of multiple punches in the head while I was just covering again."
...
"Later that day the brother of the fighter that assaulted called me because he is a lawyer and he asked me "What do you want to make things go smoothly?". I said "I want to know what you would want if you go blind for the rest of your life, I want what is right and hopefully the judge is gonna say it".

http://www.reddit.com/r/MMA/comments/2vlnx8/matt_brown_allegedly_assulted_his_jui_jistsu_coach/

Here is the full story as posted by the coach on facebook. Lirl UFC should just fold up at this point, can they go a couple of days without someone embarrassing the company?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 13, 2015, 01:06:00 AM
Don't worry dude, after the press conference on Wednesday when they roll out their new strategy for combating steroids everything is going to be ok.

Also whilst I love Matt Brown the fighter Matt Brown the human being seems like a real prick so this is sad but hardly shocking.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: MikeofEvil on February 13, 2015, 05:52:46 AM
...is that Schaub?

lol yeah that's Schaub bro. You got that Oliver Sachs facial recognition illness, brother.

S'called prosopagnosia. I figured I must have it a few years ago when I read an article about people who had trouble recognising faces and went "Oh, so this isn't normal? That explains why people get offended when I don't recognise them."
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 13, 2015, 02:49:07 PM
http://www.mmamania.com/2014/1/2/5266190/georges-st-pierre-ufc-took-my-championship-belt-left-without-telling-me-mma

I don't remember hearing about this, maybe I did and forgot but let's pretend I didn't so:

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"I'm taking my shower after the fight. I'm in my suit and tie, after that, they passed by, took the belt and they left with it, without even telling me. I have the belts I won before, but I don't have the one from my last fight."

That's some old school rasslin' territory bs right there. Where's the professionalism bah gawd.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on February 13, 2015, 05:46:56 PM
"How dare you imply our actually dirty sport is just that."
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 15, 2015, 03:01:44 AM
Coaches for TUF: Japan are Gomi and Kawijiri. I don't care now but I'll probably get irrationally excited come fight time.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 16, 2015, 08:24:19 AM
http://mmajunkie.com/2015/02/requiem-for-a-heavyweight-looking-back-at-bryan-vetell

Really good (and sad) article by Ben Fowlkes about the life and death of a NY fighter.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 16, 2015, 08:27:12 AM
Damn, that sucks. I didn't even know he had died. I remember watching him in the IFL way back when. RIP homie

Great read, btw.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 16, 2015, 08:30:58 AM
Don't think it's a coincidence that Brookhouse joins Junkie and Fowlkes churns out a legit piece like this.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 16, 2015, 08:37:00 AM
Another great Junkie piece (even if it's just a copy/paste of a facebook post):

http://mmajunkie.com/2015/02/yves-edwards-movie-review-perfectly-captures-the-essence-of-50-shades-of-grey

Yves should review bad movies on the regular.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 17, 2015, 01:59:42 AM
Yeah that had me rolling. I'd read Yves review anything.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on February 18, 2015, 04:25:47 AM
In response to all the failed tests, the UFC is going to introduce out of competition testing to WADA standards, starting July 1st.

The UFC also supports a ban of FOUR YEARS for first time offenders.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on February 18, 2015, 04:27:02 AM
Holy crap. That is pretty nuclear but it sounds like thankfully they have had enough.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on February 18, 2015, 04:51:27 AM
I hope they stick to that if that's the stance they're taking.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Just Call Me Dan on February 18, 2015, 04:54:36 AM
Bellator is going to blow up
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on February 18, 2015, 05:45:34 AM
Looks like there will be a TUF Japan with Gomi vs Kawajiri as coaches and then a fight between the two at 155 lbs.

Even in 2015, that is fun.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 18, 2015, 05:46:01 AM
Coaches for TUF: Japan are Gomi and Kawijiri. I don't care now but I'll probably get irrationally excited come fight time.

HEARD THAT
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on February 18, 2015, 05:46:38 AM
womp womp.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 18, 2015, 05:47:12 AM
In response to all the failed tests, the UFC is going to introduce out of competition testing to WADA standards, starting July 1st.

The UFC also supports a ban of FOUR YEARS for first time offenders.

For all the UFC critics (myself included), these are both initiatives that go wayyyyy beyond what other sports leagues are doing. These mafuckas are SURRRIOUS
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 18, 2015, 05:48:02 AM
"Come visit whenever you want"- the state of Texas to the UFC.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 18, 2015, 05:48:36 AM
I don't get it.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 18, 2015, 05:51:54 AM
Texas is known for their lack of testing though I suppose now that it's the UFC themselves conducting it the joke is kinda lames.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on February 18, 2015, 09:58:51 AM
The ufc is basically committing seppuku by doing this.  They will lose fighters and in addition guys will be out with injuries for a lot longer.  They need to follow it up with a strong campaign to educate fighters on proper training, because as long as guys are doing the 3 x 6 weekly training sessions, the need for quicker recovery is still there.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on February 18, 2015, 10:41:52 AM
If they ain't going to stop guys from sparring like they're at Chute Boxe, they ain't going to talk to guys now.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on February 18, 2015, 11:03:43 AM
It's a copy cat sport.  If they promote the fact that Robbie Lawler doesn't do hard sparring which contributes to him fighting more and making more money, it may change some minds.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 19, 2015, 03:17:05 AM
Phil Davis is now a free agent, could definitely see UFC choosing not to renew his contract. Boring fighter, stunted growth and still good enough to halt the rise of exciting contenders in a division that desperately needs them.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Amy pats fan on February 19, 2015, 05:19:47 AM
I get why people think he's "boring" but personally I like seeing elite wrestlers like him in the cage, who neutralize their opponent and grind out wins.  He wins fights, but he rarely finishes anyone, so I get it

As far as stunted growth.....he hasn't developed his other skills as well as I'd expected when he burst on the scene 5 years ago....but he's still a top fighter.  Decision loss to Rumble and a split decision to Bader.....no shame in either.  Wins over Machida and Glover.

He'd be the LHW champ in Bellator in short order
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 19, 2015, 05:36:39 AM
"Win" over Machida. Isn't it a rule we have to put that in quotes because it's really not a win?

Either way I'm not disputing that he's a top fighter but I think my points are valid. There's very little upside at this point for UFC to keep him around.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on February 19, 2015, 05:37:54 AM
That win over Machida is a joke though. I also don't feel like I need to see him in the UFC anymore. He's good enough to beat most of the division, but he hasn't shown anything new in forever. He seems to have peaked already and is now declining.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on February 19, 2015, 05:46:58 AM
I think the problem is he focused too much on "improving" his kickboxing that all of his fights focused on that with the occasional takedown or clinch against the cage.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 19, 2015, 05:51:29 AM
He doesn't like getting hit in the face and has a tough time transitioning from strikes to takedowns. And yes, the Machida fight was a blatant robbery.

As far as Bellator goes, I'm p. sure Liam McGeary and Emanuel Newton would both work him (call me crazy).
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 19, 2015, 06:14:35 AM
Dunno about work him, McGeary's takedown d hasn't been tested too much but I think both guys give him a tough fight.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on February 19, 2015, 06:23:21 AM
I can't wait for Newton to KO him with a minute and 45 seconds left in the 5th round after losing every minute of the fight so far.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 21, 2015, 08:45:12 AM
http://www.sherdog.com/videos/backstagepass/Roots-of-Fight-BJ-Penn-7581

Great mini-documentary on BJ's win at the Mundials to become the first non-Brazilian world champion in BJJ.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 23, 2015, 06:11:15 AM
Mandatory military service claims another South Korean fighter- Kyung Ho Kang out for 2 years, will return to mma after that.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 23, 2015, 01:23:10 PM
People are really pissed at Josh Neer for doing this:

http://youtu.be/q09-ItZ-4Es

The story is that this guy talked mad shit to him online, and said he could whip his ass in a fight and they had a three round fight at the gym. Call me old school, but if you're going to talk shit to a pro fighter and then meet up with him and get into a scrap, you kinda have to expect what's coming. I mean really, that looks like assault on the surface but don't consent to a fight with a pro fighter and ask him to go 100% on you. What did this dude think was gonna happen?

Now I'm not condoning what he did, Neer should have just ignored him. But I'm just saying if you talk mad shit and tell a guy you want to fight him as he brings his best, and show up at the gym to do it, don't be surprised when you get your ass kicked and don't whine about it after the fact. I don't even think this guy whined either lol he kept talking shit, it's all the journalists/fans that are in an uproar.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 23, 2015, 04:12:45 PM
lol video has been removed, trust me it was brutal.

Here's a link to Neer's side of the story: http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/2/23/8097369/ufc-veteran-josh-neer-explains-video-gym-fight-moron-knockout-mma-news
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on February 23, 2015, 04:21:55 PM
The video has popped back up. While I ger where Neer was coming from, it was pretty brutal. I'm sure he could have made his points less viciously.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on February 23, 2015, 08:03:31 PM
Eh... it's on the same scale of the troll who shit talked Deontay Wilder to me.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 24, 2015, 01:50:31 AM
Talk shit, get hit.

Neer definitely went over the line and he's been a noted piece of shit for a long time before this but the other dude put himself in this position and apparently has a rep for showing up at gyms around Iowa and beating up less experienced, smaller guys so fuck him too.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Just Call Me Dan on February 24, 2015, 02:25:15 AM
All I can find is a video of Neer already on top. Is there one of the whole thing? I'd like to see how the big fella looks from the start.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on February 24, 2015, 02:38:31 AM
The 14 second video is all that seems to exist. Neer claims the guy was 6'6 or so
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 24, 2015, 02:54:35 AM
And 270 apparently but most people are calling bullshit on it.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on February 25, 2015, 02:54:02 AM
The guy that Neer beat up told his side of the story

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/2/25/8106753/josh-neer-gym-fight-patrick-martin-interview

Apparently it was a three minute sparring session where he was putting work on Neer. He was tagging Neer on the feet while Josh was missing wild and failing to land take downs. The video part of the incident occurred when this killer bent down to pick up his mouth piece and was ambushed by Neer.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 25, 2015, 03:30:36 AM
LOL WTF
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 25, 2015, 03:43:00 AM
Everything negates itself either way. We can't prove that the guy is bullshitting us about there being footage we didn't see and if there is footage then Neer will never release it and just say the guy is lying.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 25, 2015, 04:41:43 AM
I feel like the footage will eventually come out, there will be enough public pressure that someone will give it up.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 25, 2015, 05:08:59 AM
I think you're overestimating how much mma fans care about this.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 25, 2015, 09:45:42 AM
I ain't talking about the fans:

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Josh-Neer-Under-Investigation-by-Iowa-Commission-After-Gym-Fight-Video-Goes-Viral-82417
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 26, 2015, 12:58:09 AM
The other guy, by his own admission, isn't hurt badly so I doubt anything will happen. But I strongly dislike Josh Neer so I'm hoping it does.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 26, 2015, 01:40:52 AM
Not sure how legit this is but a "Canadian journalist" (that was the wording) with links to Tri-Star has been told that Yves Jabouin and Thomas Almeida have been told to train for a 5 round fight because for some reason UFC is paranoid that Renan Barao will either miss weight or pull out of the Dillashaw fight in Montreal.

Bantamweight, everybody.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: AA484 on February 26, 2015, 01:42:45 AM
UFC, everybody.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 26, 2015, 01:47:55 AM
Don't get me wrong it's a smart thing to have a backup fight in place but Almedia has only 1 fight in the UFC and Jabouin has never beaten a top ten opponent. I figured if anything he'd be the one to get the shot just because it's Montreal but who knows.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on February 26, 2015, 02:20:27 AM
I was thinking the buys/gate for that show would be fairly comical anyway but with Jabouin/Almeida in there instead? Woof. I suppose Rampage is on there but still.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 26, 2015, 02:41:59 AM
The gate for the show will be fine I think. Montreal is used to getting at least one card a year and 2014 was barren for them, even without Rory or GSP involved it'll be an easy sellout probs.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on February 26, 2015, 03:15:28 AM
Didn't the last few GSP shows there not sellout? Or very last minute if so?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 26, 2015, 03:40:07 AM
Maybe the shows were sellouts but not at full capacity? I can't imagine GSP vs Diaz wasn't a total sellout.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on February 26, 2015, 03:52:50 AM
Yeah could very well be. Seems like the seating they open up varies from show to show.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on February 26, 2015, 09:06:43 AM
I doubt it will sell out given the ticket prices and main event.  There's a reason why they didn't go back last year, they've significantly damaged the Canadian market.  Plus the dollar being where it is will hurt them too.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 26, 2015, 09:16:38 AM
Dana White throwing GSP under the bus after the Hendricks fight set back the sport in the eyes of the media and general public in Quebec like 15 years.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 26, 2015, 10:06:58 AM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2378664-patrick-martin-attempts-to-clear-his-name-details-gym-fight-with-josh-neer

WAY different version of events. He makes it sound like it wasn't supposed to be a real fight at all. The shit talking on Facebook from both parties indicates that it was a lot more heated. Still, if there was no agreement about it being a street fight, then Neer could be in serious trouble.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 26, 2015, 02:13:28 PM
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/2/26/8118779/iowa-ac-closes-investigation-of-josh-neer-gym-beat-down

lol Neer and his coach are claiming the kick wasn't a kick and just him 'tripping'. Wow, hard to take them seriously after that one.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on February 26, 2015, 07:26:13 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/hsf9axJ.jpg)
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 27, 2015, 12:58:04 AM
I doubt it will sell out given the ticket prices and main event.  There's a reason why they didn't go back last year, they've significantly damaged the Canadian market.  Plus the dollar being where it is will hurt them too.

Good call on the dollar being shite right now, didn't think of that.

Also Nick is mad butthurt his boy was hanging with Georges.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 27, 2015, 05:11:23 AM
https://twitter.com/Tha_Real_VTT

I see great potential in this twitter account.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on February 27, 2015, 05:57:51 AM
lol I saw that VTT Twitter account today too, good stuff.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on February 27, 2015, 05:59:43 AM
As far as humor-related accounts go GFAonMMA is the #1.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on February 27, 2015, 12:35:45 PM
To their credit the ufc has lowered ticket prices, front row was 600 and it's down to 375.  Probably too late, but we'll see.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 04, 2015, 12:42:14 AM
Kelvin and Escudero are coaching Tuf: Latin America 2. They won't be fighting, but still odd choices for a bunch of reasons I don't feel like getting into here.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 04, 2015, 03:59:11 AM
Oh come on now. You can't end a sentance like that and not expect people to pry.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on March 05, 2015, 05:16:15 AM
Vitor is whining that it's unfair that he's been tested more times than Weidman.

You've failed 2 fucking drug tests. Consider yourself lucky you're undeservedly fighting for a title in the UFC you fucking cheater. You should have been fucking banned.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on March 05, 2015, 05:42:34 AM
This is the same delusional guy that wanted to fight Munoz for an interm title.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 05, 2015, 07:13:11 AM
He's whining but he's also right, perhaps not in the way he sees it but right is right.

They shouldn't be testing the Chris only 1 time.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Amy pats fan on March 05, 2015, 09:38:13 AM
Weidman has never failed a test, never been suspended.  There's probable cause to test Vitor more stringently
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 05, 2015, 09:41:34 AM
Weidman has never failed a test, never been suspended.  There's probable cause to test Vitor more stringently

It's hard to fail tests when in Weidman's case he's probably only taken a few of them. I'm not saying he's on something, I'm just saying he certainly isn't beyond reproach, and in the fight game nobody should be.

There is cause to test everyone more stringently.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 05, 2015, 10:04:32 AM
He's whining but he's also right, perhaps not in the way he sees it but right is right.

They shouldn't be testing the Chris only 1 time.

I think you're wearing your Vitor-glasses here dawg. He deserves more scrutinity.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 11, 2015, 08:06:31 AM
http://mmajunkie.com/2015/03/after-mma-retirement-mac-danzig-on-training-financial-struggles-ufc-job-lawsuits

Mac Danzig not doin' so well these days. Good insights into the process of trying to making a living without fighting, regardless of how you feel about his views on the UFC as a business.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 11, 2015, 08:09:11 AM
Wonder if he's regretting not getting any sponsors for his last fight. Probably is.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 11, 2015, 08:21:53 AM
Yeah that statement against the system didn't really net him much in the way of irl things. I'm not gonna even talk about Coleman's situation :(
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 11, 2015, 08:25:18 AM
Coleman's sitch is just sad. UFC should step up and help for sure.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 11, 2015, 08:38:40 AM
That article makes me sick.

People like to point to those fight bonuses as a way out of poverty for some of these guys, or as pay that supplements their bogus fight pay, but Danzig got 4 of them and has jack shit to show for it.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 11, 2015, 08:44:09 AM
Can we get Cole Konrad to host a seminar on investing?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on March 11, 2015, 12:52:39 PM
This is tragic.  No one should ever have to find a job :(
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on March 11, 2015, 01:06:55 PM
In all seriousness, all the ufc owes it's fighters are on the terms if the contract the fighters sign.  If it's sad that they have to go out and make a career change and get a new job, then it's sad for 99% of the population.  The real tragedy is guys get set for life by playing games, or just by being born to the right money, while everyone else has to take a route other than the shortcut and meanwhile pay the salaries of those people thru inflated tickets, or product or whatever. 

Would it be in the UFCs best interest to do something?  Yes, but I would rather they spend money on funding a fighters' education to transition into another field than anything else.  Mac Danzig doesn't deserve to be set for life, no body does... Or everybody does.  But life is not fair, and sometimes you gotta pick garbage, or sling fries, or drag yourself to work at 5 in the morning and get home at 5 at night to make ends meet.  It's what everyone here has to do, so why should he be any different?

Also, Coleman spent all his money on coke.  He enjoyed his money.  I don't want people to suffer, but that dude made his bed to some degree. 
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 12, 2015, 12:56:57 AM
You are so not invited to Hammer House Apprecation Night next time I host it.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on March 12, 2015, 04:16:19 AM
I agree with Rudo. It's hard to feel bad for a guy who's made that much money and has nothing to show for it.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on March 12, 2015, 07:24:06 AM
You are so not invited to Hammer House Apprecation Night next time I host it.

But who else will bring the seven layer dip with homemade tortilla chips?!
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 12, 2015, 07:25:43 AM
Big Wes.....duh. His dips are the best.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on March 12, 2015, 07:29:59 AM
Fuuuuuck that, his guac is way too chunky, he has no idea how to pick good avocados.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: MikeofEvil on March 12, 2015, 10:00:31 AM
In all seriousness, all the ufc owes it's fighters are on the terms if the contract the fighters sign.  If it's sad that they have to go out and make a career change and get a new job, then it's sad for 99% of the population.  The real tragedy is guys get set for life by playing games, or just by being born to the right money, while everyone else has to take a route other than the shortcut and meanwhile pay the salaries of those people thru inflated tickets, or product or whatever. 

Would it be in the UFCs best interest to do something?  Yes, but I would rather they spend money on funding a fighters' education to transition into another field than anything else.  Mac Danzig doesn't deserve to be set for life, no body does... Or everybody does.  But life is not fair, and sometimes you gotta pick garbage, or sling fries, or drag yourself to work at 5 in the morning and get home at 5 at night to make ends meet.  It's what everyone here has to do, so why should he be any different?

Also, Coleman spent all his money on coke.  He enjoyed his money.  I don't want people to suffer, but that dude made his bed to some degree.

Totally this. No-one is forced to become a fighter, it's something you choose (we all get told how hard people have to work for it). So if you decide to become a fighter, if you decide to trade some of your health and wellbeing and any chance of a regular work history for a shot at fame and big bucks, that's a choice you make as an adult. And that means you live with coming out of the other end too, when it's not there anymore, and when your CV consists of 'I spent these fifteen years hitting people for money'.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 12, 2015, 10:55:58 AM
Mac and other fighters like him were an essential part of the UFC's Fox deal, as they needed all those FOTN performances to sell Fox on that huge TV contract. He was a small piece, but he got paid a fraction of that, even.

(https://scontent-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/10857170_10153101644470359_7728933574109183423_o.jpg)

THE TRUE GOAT
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 12, 2015, 11:10:53 AM
Mac Danzig was never a part of anything essential to the UFC. Do you honestly think his name even came up or footage of him was shown during negotiations with the Fox execs? The only time I could think of is when Jim Miller made him a plasma donor and that was probably just to show the brass that bad cuts bleed a lot but the fighter is ok.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 12, 2015, 11:13:37 AM
No but I mean the fact is that he provided a few in a line of memorable fights that got people to talk about the UFC. His fight was a highlight on a lot of the cards he fought on, he helped build the viewership. He wasn't a huge draw or something, but being consistently entertaining helped the UFC sell its product for sure. That's what I mean.

When the Fox execs signed up with the UFC, it's because they knew they were getting content that provided exciting fights. Danzig was a small part in creating that aura.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on March 12, 2015, 01:58:52 PM
I think you're really stretching here. Being a TUF winner and considering his UFC run, Danzig probably did better than anyone could have in that position.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 13, 2015, 01:03:38 AM
YPOV has a soft spot in his heart for vegan shutterbugs.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 13, 2015, 02:01:05 AM
Well I just look at it as the UFC got 800 million because they had a certain kind of product for years. Guys like Danzig, Huerta, Guillard, all contributed to that rep and value of that product to TV viewers. Maybe they weren't specifically known, but fans watched expecting some action, and these are the guys that provided it.

I definitely think that played a part in how much money the UFC got, and I don't think these guys got paid nearly what the value was that they brought to the table. Going further than that, the UFC used Danzig to sell the fulfillment of a dream as a TUF winner. People watch the season expecting to care about the fighters and the guy that won usually commands the most attention. They pulled in people talking about how he was a big shot with that six figure contract blah blah blah but the guy was barely able to cover the costs of his training.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 13, 2015, 02:06:59 AM
also

Quote
“It’s just overwhelming. I’ve been so emotional throughout this whole thing and I didn’t even know nothing about this ‘Go Fund Me’. Wes Sims has been there for me from the beginning and you know I try to give back and help him as well, but I woke up from this surgery, didn’t know nothing about it and there’s no denying it’s a big step. I don’t like…I like helping people, you know? It’s not so easy for me to get the help, but for Wes Sims to start this Go Fund Me project. I didn’t know much about it but all of a sudden, yes to see how many people that, I don’t I could have met them all. I wish I would have been able to meet all of these people, and I’m hoping someday maybe I can meet them and try to give back; and I do do a lot of appearances and it really just blows my mind that you could really make somebody’s day just by taking a picture with them and being nice to them, and like you said it just blows my mind how many people just started donating. Some people five dollars, some people eight dollars. And these people don’t owe me nothing, and I'm not going to deny it, it’s going to be needed and it’s going to be used, because it’s going to be a very costly process here, but for somebody to send me eight dollars which obviously they probably could have used the eight dollars themselves, but they decided to send it to me. You know it’s just hard to even comprehend and I’m just really appreciative. I’m just blown away by the whole thing and I just appreciate all these fans and I'd rather call them friends than fans at this point.

TRUE LEGEND
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on March 13, 2015, 02:09:12 AM
Hunto kicked in $5,000
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 13, 2015, 02:13:27 AM
Yeah I posted the message in the first pic, it's in the bottom right of the image.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on March 13, 2015, 02:26:34 AM
Yeah... I skimmed. Did the goal get pushed from $20k to $100k after the initial goal was reached?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on March 13, 2015, 09:41:37 AM
Renzo once again proved that it's impossible for a Gracie to open their mouth without stupidity spewing forth.

Apparently, every MMA fighter except Frankie and Weidman are on PED's.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: AA484 on March 13, 2015, 10:46:37 AM
Well...
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on March 18, 2015, 04:44:57 AM
Quote
The Police Intellectual Property Crime Unit (PIPCU) has arrested 55-year-old “Sir Paul,” a man who is being referred to as “the world’s most prolific uploader” of UFC content after uploading over 3.2 terabytes of UFC content illegally (3,000 videos)

if you know the name, you know the name.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on March 18, 2015, 04:47:22 AM
Damn. They're taking them all down.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Brodypedia on March 19, 2015, 03:46:18 AM
 http://culturecrossfire.com/sports/mma/shamrock-vs-shamrock-the-best-mma-ppv-that-never-was/#.VQrAgo7F_rE 

I took a look at the possibilities of what the line up could have been had the Frank Shamrock vs. Ken Shamrock PPV came to pass back in 2008. The background of the fights and the aftermath of why it all came apart is covered as well.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 19, 2015, 07:26:57 AM
In now way am I trying to upstage Brody but holy fuck this article by Toronto's own Karim Zidan on Khabib, his father and Dagestan is absolutely must-read shit.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/3/19/8244663/ufc-khabib-abdulmanap-nurmegomedov-dagestan-dynasty-fighting-family-business-mountains-war-mma
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 20, 2015, 01:02:08 AM
http://mmajunkie.com/2015/03/ladies-and-gentlemen-conor-mcgregor-has-just-taken-over-brazil

Can't wait for the McGOAT 2015 Tour to hit Toronto.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on March 20, 2015, 01:56:50 AM
I might try and take off of work to go to the NYC date.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 20, 2015, 02:03:35 AM
I'm taking a half day from work and will be rocking my Ireland footy warm-up jacket.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 20, 2015, 07:03:25 AM
“I’m sitting up here with my feet on the desk. What’s anyone going to do about it? My family’s motto means … ‘royal is in my blood.’ If this was a different time, I’d invade his favela and kill anyone who was not fit to work. But this is a new time, so I’ll whoop his ass in July.”- MIDEVIL SHIT

Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 24, 2015, 02:49:46 AM
UFC has signed undefeated Danish fighter Nicolas Dalby who's currently the CWFC WW champ. Kid has looked pretty impressive on the regional circuit, has a lot of hype behind him.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on March 24, 2015, 04:20:06 AM
So decision loss in his first UFC fight then?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 24, 2015, 05:18:57 AM
..........?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on March 24, 2015, 05:24:50 AM
Oh just seems like a lot of hype trains are getting derailed so was thinking that could be the case here but to be fair I know nothing about this guy either.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 24, 2015, 05:27:51 AM
That's fair, there are a few guys like Jouban who have done well but recently with Gunnar and now LaFlare falling I can see where you're coming from. Even then I think too much is being made of LaFlare's loss, despite his age and record recently people tend to forget that Maia is one of the best grapplers in the history of the sport and it's no shame in losing that way to him.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on March 24, 2015, 05:29:01 AM
http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/3/24/8259545/in-search-of-strange-brew?utm_campaign=mmafighting&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter (http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/3/24/8259545/in-search-of-strange-brew?utm_campaign=mmafighting&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter)

What an incredibly sad story. The Team Thompkins stuff is insane.

No wonder Jason Thacker disappeared.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 24, 2015, 06:12:20 AM
I'm in no way surprised to hear about the Tompkins stuff. Sean was one of those guys who was loved by those he loved and anybody outside his circle hated his guts.

Great article though. Mindenhall is the best in the game at these types of pieces.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 25, 2015, 08:33:33 AM
So it seems like Cyborg locked up a contract with Zuffa a few weeks back as was the rumours but it has some stipulations. She's still going to defend her belt at least once more for Invicta at 145 and before they grant her a title shot Dana and Co. need to be satisfied that she can safely cut to 135.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Brodypedia on March 25, 2015, 01:02:24 PM
Meltz said the other day that Alberto Del Rio's injury was the only thing holding back him and Bill Goldberg from facing off at a Glory kickboxing event.

Meltz said they must have offered Bill a truckload of cash since he turns every other offer from wrestling and MMA down.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 26, 2015, 02:03:22 AM
At the Boston stop of the McGOAT World Tour we were treated to Conor saying he wants to turn Aldo's favela into a Reebok factory.

Which, ya know, probably doesn't make the brass at Reebok too happy.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: AA484 on March 26, 2015, 02:41:01 AM
Last time I wanted Aldo to beat a guy so badly (Swanson) he gaped his eyebrow wide open in eight seconds.  Fingers crossed that it happens again.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on March 26, 2015, 02:57:58 AM
And I hope Connor makes this fight look like GSP/Fitch.

With Connor taking the GSP role of course.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on March 26, 2015, 02:59:52 AM
I hope Connor knocks Aldo out. Aldo is my person P4P, but damn this guy is entertaining.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on March 26, 2015, 03:01:46 AM
Plus it would be nice to have another champion that can sell PPV's.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on March 26, 2015, 03:17:24 AM
If I wasn't already sold on the fight, the thing that would have hooked me in was in the first Embedded episode when Conor tells Aldo he's gonna die and he gets the crazy eyes that you can't fake.

That would be the promo shot I'd use for the next few months.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 26, 2015, 03:24:25 AM
Conor's shit talk here has a purpose which is to goad Aldo into fighting like he did against Mendes. He (Conor) knows his best and only chance at winning is to get into prolonged boxing exchanges because that's where his length, power and chin will be to his advantage. If Aldo fights at range and uses leg kicks, lateral movements and takedown's he coasts to an easy decision or a late tko.

Long and the short of it is that unless Jose chooses to fight angry he's got this locked up.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on March 26, 2015, 03:43:01 AM
My prediction - with this World Tour and all this time to build towards the fight, Conor gets under Aldos skin and he comes to brawl.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 26, 2015, 03:46:14 AM
I think so too. There's too much on the line for Aldo in terms of personal pride for him not to want to just get in there guns blazing and try and fuck Conor up. He'll look bad if he turns it into a point-fighting contest and gets on his bike to counter punch for 25 minutes.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on March 26, 2015, 03:59:09 AM
Take a look at the future boys

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10636019_1025723114162654_676851112776570802_n.jpg?oh=4869542c6f233e7ed5dc7ad6bd2ef499&oe=55B04148&__gda__=1438554352_5f09d6c4b7104bc9657ee6e633d1d373)
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 26, 2015, 07:42:26 AM
Why did Conor decapitate Mighty Mouse?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on March 26, 2015, 08:51:30 AM
I really don't understand where all the love for PVZ is coming from. Like, yeah shes pretty hot. But I watched her first UFC fight...am I the only one that thinks she isn't the next big star of WMMA and that Felice is probably gonna beat her up for 3 rounds?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 26, 2015, 08:55:35 AM
The "love" is 100% related to her hotness. I'd guarantee a good portion of people talking her up have never seen her fight.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on March 26, 2015, 09:00:47 AM
Her first fight was against a girl who was also 3-0 and it was a back and forth scramble of a fight where she used her wrestling to gas her opponent out.

Felice is a veteran at this point, is one of the bigger 115 pound girls in the division and has better striking. Maybe she can catch a sub, but I don't think her wrestling is good enough to get Felice down. I think this PVZ train stops real quick.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on March 26, 2015, 10:57:35 AM
She also doesn't come off as a total cunt like a few fighters.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 27, 2015, 01:34:22 AM
Hahahaha a fan at the NYC presser asked Dana how they can justify signing CM Punk and not Ben Askren and Dana looked liked he was going to have a grand mal seizure.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on March 27, 2015, 02:18:59 AM
Well, 1 will sell PPVs while the other will make Jon Fitch look exciting.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 27, 2015, 02:25:38 AM
Askren's last four fights haven't been boring at all, he seems to have heard the criticisms of his game and worked on being more exciting. UFC should sign him for a bunch of reasons but it's tough for them to crow about being the place where all the best fighters in the world are when they passed on a top-level WW.

Plus he needs to fight Hendricks. That's a legit blood feud between two of the best wrestling-to-mma crossovers in the sports history.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on March 27, 2015, 02:32:43 AM
And what do they have to lose really? If he's boring and loses then cut him. Give the guy a chance at least.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 27, 2015, 02:47:20 AM
Here's the current Top 15 rankings for WW in the UFC.....

Champ- Robbie Lawler

1. Johny Hendricks
2. Rory MacDonald
3. Tyron Woodley
4. Carlos Condit
5. Matt Brown
6. Demian Maia
7. Hector Lombard
8. Tarec Saffedine
9. Dong Hyun Kim
10. Kelvin Gastelum
11. Jake Ellenberger
12. Rick Story
13. Thiago Alves
14. Gunnar Nelson
15. Ryan LaFlare

I'd say Askren beats everybody from 15-9, Brown, Condit and Lombard too.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on March 27, 2015, 03:05:46 AM
I think Askren beats everyone on that list except Lombard. Rory, Johny, Lawler are the only other ones I see giving him trouble.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 27, 2015, 03:08:42 AM
After seeing what Maia has done to Fitch, Story and now LaFlare I'm super interested in seeing him and The Funk go at it.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on March 27, 2015, 03:24:49 AM
I was thinking about putting Maia on that maybe list, but I think Askren would lay-and-pray that one to a 30-27. If Shields could do it, so could Askren.

Why hasn't WSOF picked up Askren? Askren vs. Shields, Fitch, Paul Harris. Those are interesting fights.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on March 27, 2015, 03:28:08 AM
The rumour I heard is that after he left Bellator and was shopping around it was suggested to him when he met with Zuffa that he got to WSOF for a couple fights and Ben didn't want to.

Which I agree with. Despite there being some good fights for him there he should have went right to UFC.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on April 04, 2015, 12:16:34 PM
http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f2/bobby-green-dos-anjos-its-like-how-barry-bonds-started-hitting-home-runs-2972185/

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“This guys got super better. His cardio’s gotten better, his chin’s gotten better and like everything, something’s going on. Did you hear Anthony [Pettis]? He was like ‘I don’t know what happened, I don’t know what went wrong, I thought everything was great. Camp went great, I can’t figure out what I did wrong.’ You didn’t do nothing wrong Ant, you didn’t do nothing wrong, you just don’t know what happened because you got bamboozled, you got played. You got played bro. That’s the way it is. Look at him, look at your body look at his body.”

 “I sparred with him personally, I felt it. I was like there’s something here. I felt it, I was like ok, there’s something a little bit different here. I knew what was going to happen to Ant, I knew what was going to happen.”

 “It’s [like] how Barry Bonds started hitting home runs.”

Green is going HAM on Dos Anjos.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on April 05, 2015, 02:08:36 AM
No doubt in my mind RDA has been on the juice for the past couple years. It's not even a question, just look at him now from a few years ago.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 05, 2015, 02:55:02 AM
Is this actually news? I thought it was pretty well known. If you look at RDA's physique right around the Soitoroplous fight there's a marked difference.

And, as we usually think when things like this get brought up: holy shit what Khabib did to him was impressive. And he's going to do it again. New LW champ by the end of 2015/early 2016, bet that.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on April 05, 2015, 04:21:39 AM
It's not news that he's on roids, most of us know that. But it's rare that people in the MMA circle will publicly call him out on it.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 05, 2015, 07:49:27 AM
That's true and it wouldn't surprise me if Green or his management got a call from some Zuffa employee reminding them of shit you don't spill publicly.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on April 06, 2015, 01:15:32 AM
As soon as RDA beat Pettis, I knew Khabib would be champ by the end of the year.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 09, 2015, 06:41:16 AM
Looks like UFC has declined to re-sign Phil Davis, expect Bellator to lock him up the second that happens. First Fitch and Okami, then Shields, now Davis. If you're a dominant Top 5 grappler you'd better be the most exciting fucking grappler in mma because if you aren't UFC wants no part of you.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on April 09, 2015, 07:03:30 AM
what a JOKE
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 09, 2015, 07:23:36 AM
It's the same principle as the other 3. From an entertainment perspective it's totally justified.

BUT, if you want to call yourself the place where all the best fighters in the world are....well....you can't really do that.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on April 09, 2015, 08:43:48 AM
While I'll totally see Davis as a top ten guy. I really had no interest in seeing him fight again anytime soon. He wasn't at all fun to watch. He'll run off a handful of wins in a row and find his way back.

The Fitch firing, while on the same lines was total bullshit. At the time he was still legit top 5.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 09, 2015, 08:47:28 AM
Davis is a legit top five right now too, IMO.

Jones
AJ
Gus
Bader
Davis
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on April 09, 2015, 08:48:40 AM
...so I guess you're gonna put money on Bader over Cormier, huh?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 09, 2015, 08:50:01 AM
Nope but Cormier didn't have a solid LHW win going into the Jones fight so his ranking was always inflated from the jump.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on April 11, 2015, 02:27:20 AM
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Jon Anik       

@Jon_Anik

So the longest game in the 115-year history of the Boston Red Sox was about as long as the average UFC event.

Unintended self-mockery. Or maybe he knows that UFC events have become too tedious.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on April 11, 2015, 04:17:39 AM
Can't really argue. A decision heavy card for 6 hours would be agony.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on April 11, 2015, 04:22:38 AM
I hate the idea that a decision automatically means a boring fight.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on April 11, 2015, 04:32:45 AM
I don't believe it myself either but I hope you understood what I meant.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: MikeofEvil on April 13, 2015, 10:01:51 AM
I hate the idea that a decision automatically means a boring fight.

It doesn't, but if every fight is a decision it starts to get wearing... that's a LOT of fighting to sit through, no matter how interested you are in it.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 14, 2015, 06:15:33 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/RvRQVw5.png)

Line stolen from DVDVR but agreed that Conor's body is going to look like an Ed Hardy shirt when it's all said and done.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on April 14, 2015, 06:36:39 AM
It's a nice tattoo but he should be bitch slapped for the placement.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on April 14, 2015, 01:34:57 PM
http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/4/14/8408063/chris-leben-didnt-realize-that-people-didnt-wake-up-and-drink-every

Good update on Leben, didn't realize his alcoholism ran that deep and that he grew up in a meth house.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 16, 2015, 08:41:52 AM
(https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/_oS17igSp_KT2S1kE37dWjBVFVc=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/3615384/CCvV1MJWAAA0_-G.0.png)

Angela Magana makes Ronda Rousey seem positively likeable.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Mr. S£im Citrus on April 16, 2015, 10:21:47 AM
That chick Magana irked me on TUF 20. Is there any female fighter in the UFC with a higher "talks shit but can't back it up" quotient than her?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on April 17, 2015, 05:56:54 AM
Is the UFC still giving out those twitter bonuses or was that forgotten about after giving Joe Lauzon $5k?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on April 19, 2015, 07:20:52 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/BObeYpZ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/lf26QY7.jpg)
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Brodypedia on April 19, 2015, 11:46:07 PM
Ronda is on Piper's podcast this week....(errr last week) and is well worth the listen. Piper is far more cognitive than usual and Ronda sells her next fight as a Shamrock/Ortiz revenge style feud that made me wish the fight was NOW.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 20, 2015, 03:37:24 AM
Nothing that has ever come out of that idiots mouth is worth a listen.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on April 20, 2015, 03:41:31 AM
Nothing that has ever come out of that idiots mouth is worth a listen.

Agreed. Great fighters that are also dicks. I'll watch them fight, but don't care what they have to say
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 20, 2015, 03:47:12 AM
If they're a dick that speaks intelligently and has well formed opinions like, say, Ben Askren then I'll listen. Ronda spouts nothing but inane drivel.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 20, 2015, 08:08:58 AM
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/4/20/8458457/video-nate-quarry-loses-via-sub-to-fighter-with-down-syndrome-jake-the-snake-beckmann-mma

Nate's sounded pretty bad with how often he's gone off on the UFC lately but this is 100% class, wish more fighters would get involved in these types of exhibition matches.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on April 20, 2015, 08:35:47 AM
If they're a dick that speaks intelligently and has well formed opinions like, say, Ben Askren then I'll listen. Ronda spouts nothing but inane drivel.

Ben isn't in the same dick stratosphere as Rhonda or Jones.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 24, 2015, 01:37:16 AM
Ben Askren vs Sapo Santos ends in a No Contest due to Sapo being poked in the eye. Really, really shitty ending to what looked like the first legit test of Askren's career. Santos was doing work against him.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on April 24, 2015, 02:57:46 AM
I heard Sapo was beating him but was slowing down. The eyepoke definitely influenced things though.

I'd be curious to see how easy it was for Sapo to stuff those initial takedowns. Might say a lot about a fight with someone like Lawler or Johny.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 24, 2015, 03:26:41 AM
I'll need to watch it for myself. It sounds like people are saying Sapo was gassing because Askren's corner was telling him that but who knows.

And as much as I like Ben's dickish attitude it's a straight up bitch move to come out on the mic afterwards and say that Santos wanted a way out. I think Ben was pissed that he was getting beat.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on April 24, 2015, 04:23:47 AM
Guys, it happened 2 minutes into a 5 round fight. Not fair to either party to say one was winning and one was losing.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on April 24, 2015, 05:34:30 AM
lol
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 24, 2015, 05:45:43 AM
Guys, it happened 2 minutes into a 5 round fight. Not fair to either party to say one was winning and one was losing.

Tell that to all the media doing commentary on twitter who said Askren was losing.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on April 24, 2015, 05:53:47 AM
MMA media?

(http://www.gifbin.com/bin/1238157980_scanners_-_head_explosion.gif)
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 24, 2015, 05:56:09 AM
Yeah. Guys who write about this stuff and report on it.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on April 24, 2015, 06:03:57 AM
Of all sports, can't we admit that a shitload can happen in under two minutes in MMA? If a fight is action-packed, as this was according to smart Twitter people, there's lots to analyze.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 24, 2015, 06:06:22 AM
I think people just don't want to admit that Askren looked bad even though it's the overwhelming opinion. I think it'd be foolish to say he was on his way to losing the fight but the reality is that he did not look good. And this is against a fighter who, outside of Jay Heiron (a fight you could argue he lost) was his toughest opponent but still nowhere close to UFC level.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on April 24, 2015, 06:07:14 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osMPND3aWPg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osMPND3aWPg)

Was Askren losing the first 2 minutes of a 25 minute fight? Yes.
Did it look like Sapo was gassing out? Yes (after 2 minutes of a 25 minute fight).
Did the eye poke happen while Askren was finishing a takedown? Yes.

Who knows what would of happened, but I'm not jumping all over the anti-Askren talk.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 24, 2015, 06:08:40 AM
The only thing I'm anti-Askren about in this whole situation is him saying Sapo wanted a way out which is bullshit. The dude has a corneal abrasion for fucks sake.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on April 24, 2015, 06:23:36 AM
It's obvious these overreaction of tweets about how Askren was losing are from UFC's biggest shills... no doubts.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 24, 2015, 06:44:15 AM
Can't tell if serious....or just high.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on April 24, 2015, 07:23:47 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osMPND3aWPg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osMPND3aWPg)

Was Askren losing the first 2 minutes of a 25 minute fight? Yes.
Did it look like Sapo was gassing out? Yes (after 2 minutes of a 25 minute fight).
Did the eye poke happen while Askren was finishing a takedown? Yes.

Who knows what would of happened, but I'm not jumping all over the anti-Askren talk.

I agree with everything you said, and I feel like my post said as much. I am fairly confident Askren probably would have ended up winning, and  I think I've made my Askren fandom well-known here in the past.

I don't know how that could be considered anti-Askren, unless you're referring to stuff on Twitter.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 24, 2015, 07:38:30 AM
People are definitely going overboard on twitter but the valid points are getting lost in the stupidity.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on April 24, 2015, 07:45:48 AM
Can't tell if serious....or just high.

Nah bro I seen deets on the tweets and it's the worst of the UFC shills who went ham on the twitterverse.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 24, 2015, 07:50:03 AM
Mookie Alexander from BE had some valid critiques and he's far from a UFC shill.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on April 24, 2015, 07:52:06 AM
The Outlier
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on April 24, 2015, 08:06:36 AM
The Outlier

yo wth when did you start believing in STATS
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on April 24, 2015, 08:12:53 AM
I've always believed in my #S and stats
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 24, 2015, 08:24:32 AM
Did you mean tits instead of stats?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on April 24, 2015, 08:57:31 AM
Not knowing about Tit Stats

(http://i.imgur.com/dHaxWpn.gif)
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Amy pats fan on April 25, 2015, 08:36:17 AM
MMA tit Joe Morgan up in here
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on April 28, 2015, 01:52:01 AM
Michele Waterson to the UFC is official. Great pick-up, there are tons of awesome fights for her at 115.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on April 29, 2015, 06:21:16 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/EWrIH5l.jpg)

 :o
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on April 29, 2015, 06:23:49 AM
I posted that in the chat yesterday, I was so disappointed. I'm a huge fan of Faber and his hippie organic lifestyle but he kind of went too far here.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on April 29, 2015, 06:26:08 AM
He's gonna get polio or some shit when he goes to fight in the Phillippines and we'll see what that moron scum thinks of vaccines after that.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on April 29, 2015, 06:39:13 AM
I posted that in the chat yesterday, I was so disappointed. I'm a huge fan of Faber and his hippie organic lifestyle but he kind of went too far here.

I don't know what you expected. Californian pothead raised by hippie parents into that raw organic lifestyle is like the main type of person I mention whenever we go into the anti-vaccine demo whenever we talk about it.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on May 01, 2015, 06:22:32 AM
Diego Sanchez will be attempting a drop to 145 lbs is going to kill himself.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on May 09, 2015, 03:30:40 PM
it's a fuckin joke that Dana parades a broken former champion out in a main event like this. In 2015, Mark Hunt is facing a failed former baseball player. This sport has to be dying or at least ready to hit a downturn.

I've been saying it for years, but you pay them peanuts and no new athletes will look at it as a viable alternative.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on May 09, 2015, 03:35:32 PM
This is disgusting to watch, they're just letting him get hit in the head repeatedly. Dana can't pretend to care about the welfare of fighters when he allows a guy to tack on a ridiculous, unnecessary beating at the end of his career.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on May 09, 2015, 03:40:09 PM
(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/ca/ca4a88ee2cae563d374d3b68d1d3225eff40512bd1a15fb59ca1ab93bdcb19b8.jpg)
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on May 09, 2015, 03:47:33 PM
This fight was a fucking disgrace, full stop.

I'm disgusted that I watched that. The referee should be banned from the sport.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on May 09, 2015, 03:58:53 PM
That Hendo/Boestch main is really gonna propel a new star.

Hendo's chin has been dusted in the past two fights after being dinged for about fifteen years. How is he allowed to fight? The UFC is so dependent on these old stars, but Dana will talk about the things they do for fighter safety and how the UFC is the fastest growing sport in the world.

The sad thing is I don't even think Boestch will be able to finish him off, so Dan might get another shot to be destroyed by a real KO artist :/
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Amy pats fan on May 09, 2015, 04:24:36 PM
This is disgusting to watch, they're just letting him get hit in the head repeatedly. Dana can't pretend to care about the welfare of fighters when he allows a guy to tack on a ridiculous, unnecessary beating at the end of his career.

Blame the ref who had many opportunities to stop it, or Hunt's corner who kept letting him go out there to get slaughtered

Lots of things to blame Dana for, this isn't one.  He wasn't even there, and I'm sure he was pissed watching it.  Bet he rips that ref a new one
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on May 09, 2015, 04:45:25 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/CGi2rDi.jpg)
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on May 09, 2015, 04:57:02 PM
The cage was only just legalized in Victoria. This is going to be in all the papers tomorrow showing how violent MMA is so it's gonna be a tough week for MMA in the Aussie media.

THE TIME IS NOW
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on May 09, 2015, 05:33:25 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/8MlVBy8.png)
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on May 09, 2015, 06:36:58 PM
This is disgusting to watch, they're just letting him get hit in the head repeatedly. Dana can't pretend to care about the welfare of fighters when he allows a guy to tack on a ridiculous, unnecessary beating at the end of his career.

Blame the ref who had many opportunities to stop it, or Hunt's corner who kept letting him go out there to get slaughtered

Lots of things to blame Dana for, this isn't one.  He wasn't even there, and I'm sure he was pissed watching it.  Bet he rips that ref a new one

You know how you stop that shit is before it happens. You don't put a 41 year old, massively deteriorated Mark Hunt in there with a young lion that has cardio for days. It was just idiotic matchmaking. Worst of all it wasn't even on television, so anything the UFC would have "gotten" from Miocic pounding Hunt is negligible. No new star was made. That being said it does serve as a great reminder, and I'm gonna use this as a launch point to say something else I was thinking about earlier. I love MMA but there are some serious problems that are only going to get worse going forward, and I don't think the direction of the sport is anything less than very bad.

First and foremost the UFC is a promotional company and while that's hard to accept, that's what it is. Everything with them is about making money for themselves. Now, I don't think it takes a genius to figure this out, but their fight model is really screwed up and about to take a nosedive. The only guys they have on the roster who can get people in the building in places halfway around the world and even in the United States are guys like Mark Hunt. Guys whose best days are long past. This epidemic even persists in the other weight classes in which they have young champions. Or rather did until Jones was stripped. Fighters like Mark Hunt, Fabricio Werdum, Big Nog, Overeem, Barnett, Mir, Nelson, Cro Cop, Arlovski compose the majority of the weight class. I almost want to throw Junior in there as well because he has also deteriorated greatly. I can't possibly be the only one who sees the problem with this.

At middleweight we haven't seen the champion fight somebody in their athletic prime in 3-4 years. Other than Luke Rockhold, neither are any of his potential challengers.

At light heavyweight, this doesn't apply quite as much because Jones did fight young competition, but just look at the rankings and the positions in which the UFC has to put those guys on their card. Right now they are reliant on guys like Shogun, Hendo, Hashad, Rampage, Cormier (who is 36), and Glover (who is 35) to make money in that weight class. They have absolutely no young, quality 205 pounders in their ranks.

The other weight classes have a good mix, but they don't draw as much. The numbers show this. One of the massive problems with the UFC is a lack of young fighters who are going to take the spots of these guys when they're gone. Of course, this isn't only a UFC problem, it's one of many problems that plague MMA.  The UFC likes to trumpet how much MMA has grown, but where's the growth?

One of the ways which MMA has grown is that the UFC has become bloated, showcasing lesser quality fighters with regularity. Zuffa's pockets have grown. The only real growth in terms of fighters is that the lighter weight classes have grown tremendously and WMMA has exploded. Although to what degree WMMA has exploded is in question as the only real growth is shown when Ronda Rousey fights as she's the only person who can main event or draw people to a show.  As for the lighter weight classes, I love them. A lot of people do too. In the US, the biggest market for MMA there is, they don't draw. In Canada they don't draw.

Related to that is why MMA hasn't grown. Here's what I think. I think the UFC's destruction of companies not only permanently killed some markets out there, but that bringing all of those things under their thumb has homogenized the MMA product too much. I think this narrative that the UFC pushed about MMA going through a boom period worldwide was going to cause better athletes to choose MMA was fucking bullshit. Why would a better athlete choose to do this unless they didn't have any options? Fighter pay is shit. If you want to fight, you can be a boxer and make tons more. We've been over this many times though. Anyone breaking into MMA does so because they're either obsessed with the sport for some reason or don't have any other options in life. The actual cost of being trained and going around circuits to actually get in the UFC makes it so that nobody could maintain any quality of life. So, why would anyone choose to do this? I think the rankings and prospect quality in MMA right now make my point for me. I think the days of an athlete like GSP, Cain Velasquez, or Jon Jones entering the sport at those weight classes are over. The rampant steroid abuse is another issue that I don't really want to get into, but I have no doubt it keeps people away from the sport.

I think that anyone having a monopoly on something leads to stagnation. WWE is a great example. I know it's two different things, but I feel very strongly that the UFC is equal to WWE in so many respects. They're even matching each other in saying that fighters/wrestlers can't find a sponsor to put on their shorts/trunks. Bellator is getting stronger, they may get more strong due to the Reebok deal, and I think that would be great for the sport all things considered. Cross-promotional intrigue is one of the things that keeps combat sports going. If they don't, then...the sport is left in the hands of a group that doesn't build towards big fights, doesn't pay their rank and file fighters enough to quit their day jobs, and doesn't allow them to make enough money to quit their day jobs by putting ads on their shorts.

I also don't think the UFC is capable of creating stars. Part of that is cross-promotional intrigue that doesn't exist anymore, and related to that is that they scooped up their competition. The same thing happened to WWE when they scooped up the territories and all the guys from that territory era retired. There was nobody left to create stars for them. Another reason they aren't capable of creating stars is because they've forgotten that stars are created by keeping two guys separated for so long that people clamor to see a fight. Then the winner is a star, and the loser is a lesser star that you can build back up later. The UFC likes to blame piracy for their lack of PPV success, but I think that's absolutely untrue. How many PPV buys did Floyd-Manny do? Those guys were kept apart for so long, the match was supposedly past its sell-by date, and people were talking about them clearing 4 million buys. A gate of over 70 million. When you build a fight, it sells. When you don't, people will watch it on their computer. If not for stream sites those people wouldn't even be watching it on their computer, they shouldn't fool themselves that people would buy their shows. How many of the shows they put on in 2014 would you guys have bought?

As far as boxing goes, Canelo Alvarez is a great example of this. Did losing to Floyd Mayweather do anything to his drawing power? No, it didn't. He drew 30-35k to a baseball stadium tonight, and he's the future of boxing on PPV. If he fights GGG or Cotto on PPV later this year they'll probably clear a million buys. One of the things the UFC actually needs to learn from boxing is that boxing's greed has been the thing that kept it going for so long. Their greed was focused in different ways though, in the case of Zuffa it's to line their pockets as quickly as possible with no long-term vision. Boxing promoters are always looking towards the future. Their greed forces them to as that's the only way they can sign top prospects, cultivate them into stars, and make loads of money off them. The UFC really needs to learn from something like that, but I don't know how. Fighter pay is too low for starters, and you'd never see them sign somebody with an amateur background to a large deal with 0 fights under their belt because there's no structure. There is that structure in boxing. The best the UFC could do in that regard would be to immediately sign Olympians who want to become mixed martial artists and develop those fighters under their banner. Guys like Cormier and Cejudo should have been doing all of their fighting under the Zuffa banner. Some will bust and some won't, but they need to establish pipelines for the good of the sport.


Anyway, to sum up this late night rambling, the UFC doesn't really see it that way, and seeing as they've monopolized the sport, at this moment in time the UFC = MMA. I don't really think that the UFC has in mind the good of the sport, and when these older guys retire I have no idea what it's going to look like. I sort of expect Dana and the Ferttitas to cash out and let the whole thing be left to the vultures once that happens. They're destroying the sport just as much as they grew it. I feel like Zuffa has no long-term vision for the sport because they're not in it for the long term. By the way, the end of that Reebok deal is about when they won't have the ability to make money off the fighters under their thumb anymore, as an enormous amount of them will have retired with no prospects on the way. At the root of any successful sport, the people participating in that sport have to get something out of it and that's not really the case here.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on May 09, 2015, 06:48:55 PM
Also, the UFC has worn down a lot of their hardcore fans over nonsense like the Reebok deal, putting garbage cards in their biggest markets, promoting awful matchups as main events like Boetsch/Hendo, promoting fights that will never happen, constant steroid use amongst fighters (I blame them for not implementing stringent testing a while ago) , protecting certain people who partake in criminal activity while not doing the same with others, charging too much for PPV's, and oversaturating the market with their shows. Once you start losing the hardcores, the end result is nowhere good. They're losing me and by the look of it they've lost a lot of the people here judging by what I read from people in the chat tonight and our current activity level in this folder.

Does this sound like anything else that people talk about on this forum?

I love this shit, but the future of this sport is fucking grim. It's upsetting just like that fight I saw.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on May 10, 2015, 01:52:21 AM
Finest kind there and hard to argue a lot of it. I would call myself a semi-hardcore and they've worn me down too. Too many cards, shoddy main events and very few intriguing stars left. Look at last night. Two fights out of twelve featured "ranked" fighters. Fight Pass or not that is embarrassing. And I still don't get stacking every Vegas card while leaving hungry markets with the scraps. Doesn't look good for the future prospects of the sport at all. Guess we'll hope guys jump ship to Bellator to light a competitive fire.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on May 10, 2015, 02:27:42 AM
unreal
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on May 10, 2015, 03:24:27 AM
But hey, Whittaker! Amirightguys?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on May 10, 2015, 10:48:19 AM
...
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on May 10, 2015, 11:10:54 PM
Posted in the reebok thread.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on May 11, 2015, 04:21:46 AM
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/5/11/8584857/ufc-adlan-amagov-officially-announces-retirement-from-mma-competition

We kind of all knew this was the case but it still sucks that it's made official  :'(
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on May 11, 2015, 08:11:13 AM
Fucking religion. You ruined Fedor and now this!!!
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on May 11, 2015, 10:18:24 AM
http://jezebel.com/how-a-one-armed-ronda-rousey-grappled-with-the-world-in-1703568489/+LeahBeckmann

Awesome read, Ronda writes about combat way better than most.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on May 13, 2015, 01:45:40 PM
This season of TUF has been brutal.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on May 13, 2015, 03:18:14 PM
This season of TUF has been brutal.

I've been meaning to post for the last couple weeks asking if anyone was watching. I was done after a single episode. The whole format this year is goofy and confusing. And focusing around the team owners does not make for compelling tv. During the weigh ins and stare down for the first boring fight you had one of the fighters go to the extent of "The fighters stare down wasn't that big of a deal. I WAS WATCHING THE OWNERS STARE DOWN!" Then you get a who cares shot of the team owners staring at each other during this.

No interest. I'll tune back in at the live finale.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on May 13, 2015, 03:37:55 PM
I've watched all 4 episodes and I don't know if I'll watch any more. None of the fighters seem to give a shit when they're in the cage and focusing on the owners is just stupid.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on May 14, 2015, 02:06:09 AM
lol this was supposed to be the best season yet. I heard from lots of MMA media types that the talent level was the sickest in years. Maybe it is, in spite of the shitty format how have the fights been?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on May 14, 2015, 02:19:19 AM
Who was saying the talent level was high? It's guys who haven't fought beyond the regional circuit and some Bellator/WSOF cast-offs. The best guy on the show is probably Buscape who happens to be in the middle of a career resurrection but is also old as fuck in mma years.

Edit: Forgot about Steve Carl, he's solid too.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on May 14, 2015, 07:07:19 AM
Corey Hill died:

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JENNIFER SWIFT @Jennifer_SwifT  ·  5m 5 minutes ago
#CoreyHill it was said he had no brain activity.  Was on life support untill this morning. #RIP

#CoreyHill Had been battling fungal pneumonia.  One lung removed. A week or 2 later lung collapsed.

RIP

This one comes out of left field, I haven't really even heard of someone dying from fungal pneumonia. Hadn't thought about this guy in a while.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on May 14, 2015, 07:15:06 AM
Read it online yesterday, didn't want to believe it. RIP Buddy Rowe.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on May 14, 2015, 08:46:19 AM
Terribly sad. He came off very likeable on TUF.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: AA484 on May 14, 2015, 10:19:18 AM
Family claims that he is still alive.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on May 14, 2015, 10:35:01 AM
(http://www.admitonedrinkinggames.com/wp-content/uploads/The-Sopranos-Drinking-Game.gif)
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on May 14, 2015, 10:35:15 AM
for real though I hope they're right.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on May 14, 2015, 10:45:37 AM
How would it feel to have a bunch of people telling you your family member is dead when they're not? I dunno how I would handle that.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on May 15, 2015, 07:54:09 AM
NSAC has revised their drug testing and holy shit there are some brutal penalties, the highlight of them is an 18 months suspension for a first-time offence for weed.

Expect to see absolutely zero UFC title fights in Nevada going forward. Kidding but not really.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on May 15, 2015, 09:10:57 AM
They're kinda screwed if they try to avoid Nevada. They (for the most part) got the kind of penalties Dana was calling for so they can't complain or they look weak in their war on steroids.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: AA484 on May 20, 2015, 03:10:40 AM
Okay, so rather than doing productive things (like updating the fantasy MMA standings), I've been trying to keep a list of debatable decisions in the UFC for the calendar year.  I started at the Gustafsson vs. Johnson card (prompted by Davis/Bader)  and kept tabs through 186 (I've missed the last few cards).

Unlike the judges in the UFC, I am not afraid to award a draw (or draw rounds) if no clear winner is apparent, although I tried to avoid it if at all possible.  Below are the decisions I disagreed with, accompanied by my scores:

Norman Parke vs. Gleison Tibau (29-28, Park)
Donald Cerrone vs. Benson Henderson (30-27, Henderson)
Phil Davis vs. Ryan Bader (30-28, Davis)
Meisha Tate vs. Sarah McMann (29-28, McMann)
Tyron Woodley vs. Kelvin Gastelum (29-29, Draw)
Dan Kelly vs. Patrick Walsh (29-28, Walsh)
Santiago Ponzinibbio vs. Sean Strickland (29-28, Strickland)
Raquel Pennington vs. Holly Holm (29-29, Draw)
Liz Carmouche vs. Lauren Murphy (29-28, Murphy)
Jorge Masvidal vs. Al Iaquinta (30-27, Masvidal)
Jan Blachowitz vs. Jimi Manuwa (29-29, Draw)
Chad Leprise vs. Bryan Barberena (29-28, Barberena)
Patrick Cote vs. Joe Riggs (29-28, Riggs)
Kyle Noke vs. Jonavin Webb (29-28, Webb)
Nolan Ticman vs. Yao Zhikui (30-26, Ticman)
Phillipe Nover vs. Yui Chul Nam (29-28, Nam)
Uriah Hall vs. Rafael Natal (29-29, Draw)

Masvidal/Iaquinta was the only fight I had scored at 30-27 that returned a differing verdict from my own.  I guess you can call it the "robbery of the year" so far in UFC.  Edit: I went back and watched Cerrone/Henderson and had that 30-27 for Henderson, which ties it for "worst decision" of the year.  That is, until I watched a couple of unknowns in Nolan Ticman and Yao Zhikui face off.  I had that 30-26 with a 10-8 round for Ticman in the 3rd - he didn't do much but Yao did nothing besides scoring a single take down.  He was also outstruck 35-1 in the round which is good enough for a 10-8 for me since I have the advantage of stats and hindsight.  Even if it wasn't scored a 10-8, I still had Ticman as the winner but I guess the judges didn't like his defensive, backwards fighting throughout the first two rounds.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on May 20, 2015, 03:44:06 AM
Masdival/Iaquinta is robbery of the year in any org, period.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on May 28, 2015, 07:41:47 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAgFHS8HOLY


Snake oil strength & conditioning coaches ruining GOATs is my new interest. This is almost as bad as the idiot trying to get Shogun to squat 380 pounds as quickly as possible after his knees were shot.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Brodypedia on May 29, 2015, 04:33:17 AM
Rumors floating that the Reebok deal was done to help make the UFC more presentable to sell off. The Fertitta's Casino corporation is also making moves to become publicly traded.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on May 29, 2015, 10:48:52 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CGOz1PCUQAIkQcp.jpg:large)

cool poster
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on May 29, 2015, 10:54:16 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/osSiu00.jpg)

this fuckin' company.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on May 30, 2015, 03:50:10 AM
Way to make people jump to conclusions that Conor pissed hot, UFC.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on May 30, 2015, 10:39:58 AM
lirl
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on May 30, 2015, 03:20:47 PM
Aloe Vera is legit, Nik Lentz is extremely tough to submit and he dropped to the guillotine with so much confidence, kinda surprised but it worked. Love watching him fight, only 25 too.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on May 30, 2015, 03:27:01 PM
Strike of the night is still Jimmo getting kicked in the nuts.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on May 30, 2015, 04:19:03 PM
Strike of the night is still Jimmo getting kicked in the nuts.

Was the case until Condit crammed Alves' nose into the back of his head.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on May 31, 2015, 06:42:04 AM
Fire Jimmo. Now.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on May 31, 2015, 08:34:53 AM
Holy shit Mirsad Bektic did Lucas Martins dirrrrty. That's the type of performance he needed after going to the judges in his first two UFC fights.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on June 01, 2015, 05:25:59 AM
Strike of the night is still Jimmo getting kicked in the nuts.

Was the case until Condit crammed Alves' nose into the back of his head.

I'm still sort of stunned by this. I really thought the combo of Condit's long layoff plus the commission saying they wouldn't be drug testing either guy since they have clean histories would mean Alves picking apart a tentative Condit for a decision win... even with how badly Alves looked in his last fight.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 01, 2015, 06:06:17 AM
Alves has pissed hot before on the record and long been suspected of juicing prior to that. Who the hell said he had a clean history?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on June 01, 2015, 06:33:12 AM
Prior to the knee injury, Condit looked like an animal even in his losses and was starting to hit his peak. I never had a doubt he would put a beating on banged up Alves.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on June 01, 2015, 07:08:07 AM
Alves has pissed hot before on the record and long been suspected of juicing prior to that. Who the hell said he had a clean history?

It's Brazil, bro.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 01, 2015, 07:59:29 AM
Prior to the knee injury, Condit looked like an animal even in his losses and was starting to hit his peak. I never had a doubt he would put a beating on banged up Alves.

I think Condit still needs to rematch either Woodley or Hendricks in a 3 rounder to prove that his TDD has been upped enough. I know that everybody wants 5 round fights for guys like that but he needs to prove that he can win a 15 minute fight. Obviously the Alves win is a step in the right direction but I still think 3 rounders are his kryptonite.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on June 01, 2015, 08:08:03 AM
..but the whole point of having 5-round fights is so that we always see what the elites are made of.

With the quality of fight cards the way they are, Condit should never be in a non-main event unless he's fighting for a title on a stacked card. It seems like with his style, it's a no-brainer.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 01, 2015, 08:15:43 AM
I guess that's maybe the point I was trying to make: it's not a guarantee he's going to get every fight as a 5 rounder, it's totally plausible that he rematches Woodley or fights Brown in a co-main event that's for #1 contender.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on June 01, 2015, 11:32:26 PM
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Kerr estimates he made $1.8 million fighting for the Japanese, big money in MMA at the time. He lived lavishly when he could, adding an “unbelievably expensive” place in Santa Monica, Calif., to go with his home in Phoenix. He claimed four cars, two at each location.

"I needed at least three fights a year to sustain the lifestyle,” Kerr said.

This is crazy considering it's not too far off from what a lot of top stars make now in a much more favourable climate. But Kerr fucked it up like he fucked up a lot in his life.

http://www.si.com/mma/2015/05/21/mark-kerr-former-mma-champ-reflects-on-career-future?page=8&devicetype=default

Amazing long-form article, brings back lots of memories of hoping to see Kerr finally turn it around. Never had a chance without the painkillers though.

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The first name musician to come through the storied venue was Eddie Money, the New York City police officer turned rocker who strung together hits in the '70s and '80s. Off went the roller coaster. A friend with a car asked Kerr if he would take a two-and-a-half-hour ride to setup for Bon Jovi in Saratoga, N.Y. Two tickets to paradise? Check, please.

Kerr’s aptitude for lifting and moving heavy things led to better roadie assignments. He worked the Grateful Dead at RFK Stadium in Washington, D.C. Starting in Raleigh, N.C., he toured during the hottest part of the summer with The Who. Hitched rides brought him to Kansas City, then Boulder and, lastly, Jack Murphy Stadium in San Diego.

The pressure to build and disassemble stages prompted the tour’s senior management to use drugs to amp up the crew’s work rate, Kerr said.

"You'd have a production trailer and you'd get a boss calling you on the mic, time for lunch,” Kerr said. “You'd come in, they'd pull a drawer open, there'd be a pile of cocaine. I was told to take what I need, but I had to have a job done by this hour."

Damn never knew that's how he started with the drugs, snorting lines with MICK JAGGER this guy had a crazy fuckin' life. Read this story to appreciate the road to the Octagon's current success that Dana likes to ignore.

Also found out he's half Puerto Rican. I always thought he looked like a non-white, so it's the same feeling of confirmation as when I learned Lawler is half-Filipino.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on June 03, 2015, 10:53:02 AM
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/6/3/8720971/chael-sonnen-i-love-the-entertainment-value-of-conor-mcgregor-but

Strong words from Chael. I like his humility in deferring to guys like Florian and Cruz. I don't know if I agree with him, some say he feels like Conor's taken some of his bits.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on June 03, 2015, 04:00:03 PM
https://www.facebook.com/strikingcorner/videos/1079561438738206/

 :-\
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on June 04, 2015, 11:07:49 AM
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Mike Bohn @MikeBohnMMA

Alexander Gustafsson will be 15th fighter in UFC history to compete in a title bout after a loss. Six of those have been in past two years.

I remember when Justin Eilers getting picked for a title shot after the Buentello KO was a significant thing and shit on by everyone. But now it's not even surprising.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 05, 2015, 12:57:18 AM
And to make the situation even worse Buentello fought on that same card. Neck crank on Kevin Jordan FTW~!
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on June 06, 2015, 09:23:47 AM
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"Honestly, I do I feel bad for him. You know what that almost tells me, honestly? It almost doesn't matter what he does in any situation regardless of what's going on, it will be hard for him to get a title fight. Because if there was a situation where he was going to get one, this would be it. If they didn't give him a chance now, probably they never will.

Everything was there. From his press conference stunt to him being the only guy in the division on a win streak, if I was Ryan and his team I'd be pretty bummed out right now actually."

Ryan seemed the most natural guy for the title shot, regardless of what you think of his chances. This seems cold, and the way he worded it...I can't come up with the words but it just reminds me of a HONKY TONK MAN style of carrying oneself. Jones is gonna come back as the Ultimate Warrior, coked up and everything.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on June 06, 2015, 10:21:51 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if Gus gets injured or replaced with Bader after the backlash similar to the Rory/Lawler vs Hendricks 3 fiasco.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on June 06, 2015, 12:16:12 PM
Since we don't have a thread about the card that is on right now...

ONE OF MY COACHES CHRIS WADE GOES 3-0 IN THE UFC! YEAH BABY
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on June 06, 2015, 12:41:37 PM
Watch your toes! HSJ droppin' names!
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on June 06, 2015, 01:16:14 PM
lol it's cool, what does he coach you in? I didn't see the fight but Sherdog said he was getting hurt with strikes in the third.

Rivera has crazy power. He reached with that left hook almost like an afterthought, and it still laid Bruce Leeroy out.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on June 06, 2015, 01:23:38 PM
Not a good look when a guy who is borderline top ten in a tough division is begging for a bonus. "PLEASE DANA I REALLY NEED IT" makes me more uncomfortable than the vicious KO that happened beforehand.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on June 06, 2015, 01:48:59 PM
Damn Joe Soto got killed, he's taken a lot of shots and never seemed to have the best chin to begin with. Birchak is a good finisher, really used a variety of strikes. I thought bantamweights weren't supposed to finish each other with strikes?

This Tavares fight should be good too. The main event is a joke (these promos of Tim talking about his power are making me queasy) but the undercard is stacked.

This UFC Training Day show looks cool. Funny that Dana shit on AKA so much recently lirl
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on June 06, 2015, 02:04:47 PM
The doctor should have stopped this. It look like Tavares is going to lose his eyebrow.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on June 06, 2015, 02:07:19 PM
That said, I'd say they have FotN all sewn up.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on June 06, 2015, 02:16:36 PM
This Tavares fight should be good too.

Wow I was gonna say that was one of the best fights of the year, and maybe it's the excitement but that might be one of the best fights I've ever seen. I can't remember the last time I saw that much action in one fight. The standup was a bit sloppy but still p. good and the ground fighting was ELITE and where the fight took place for most of the first two rounds anyway. The amount of false finishes rivaled a WWE Raw main event.

Both of these guys were super tough but Ortega is a new breed. Action all the way through, unreal fight. Check it out if you didn't see it.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on June 06, 2015, 02:17:11 PM
wow this guy is a GODBOY to the max, God came in him and Ortega finished the fight because he told him to finish the fight? no wonder he's so tough, has God running through his veins.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on June 06, 2015, 02:21:31 PM
They should start testing for God. He's obviously a PED. Ortega should have just stuck with God for his last fight. Probably wouldn't have been suspended 9 months.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on June 06, 2015, 02:27:16 PM
Jesus CHrist Yancy's chin, that could have been stopped like 16 times.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on June 06, 2015, 02:42:48 PM
Hawaiians don't get KO'd.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on June 06, 2015, 02:59:30 PM
Big Ben just cut a great pro wrestling promo and dumbass Anik couldn't just leave it at that.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on June 06, 2015, 03:04:38 PM
THE LAUGH
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on June 06, 2015, 03:04:54 PM
(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/2983684/lex-luger-pec-flex-o.gif)
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on June 06, 2015, 03:05:02 PM
The laugh was ridiculous.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on June 06, 2015, 03:22:25 PM
HENDO
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on June 06, 2015, 03:22:40 PM
Lol Boestch.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on June 06, 2015, 03:23:20 PM
Best card ever.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on June 06, 2015, 03:23:37 PM
That's why the man will never retire. No matter how badly he gets destroyed in the previous fight, he always has his power.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on June 06, 2015, 03:29:26 PM
Damn...

Hendo's wife...
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on June 06, 2015, 03:32:37 PM
Hell of a card tonight
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on June 06, 2015, 03:32:44 PM
What a magnificent night of violence. Sadly this will lead to Hendo getting another big fight and getting starched.

His extra punches after getting a guy out are always nasty. Fedor ate those as well.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on June 06, 2015, 03:39:15 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/E0jzwsp.jpg)
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on June 06, 2015, 03:51:18 PM
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Dave Meltzer @davemeltzerWON

Seriously, how come the guys who script shows can't get it this good?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 07, 2015, 02:27:57 AM
Dustin Poirier vs Tony Ferguson in a battle for my lifelong love and affection please.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: MikeofEvil on June 07, 2015, 03:28:06 AM
That card impressed the hell out of me. Flash knockouts at Bantamweight, Ortega surgically removing a guy's eyebrow from his back, BEN ROTHWELL SUBMISSION MASTAH~! and Hendo proving yet again that most UFC fighters are simply too dumb to stay the fuck away from his right hand.

Honourable mention to the excellently-executed gameplan of "Hey, Ebersole puts a lot of weight on his front leg... oh wait, not any more he can't."
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on June 07, 2015, 05:43:57 AM
I forgot all about this but the streak of Ebersole being on some of the best cards continues. Always seems to be on the most violent and/or controversial ones.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 07, 2015, 07:11:52 AM
That's actually a really good point. Fare thee well, avatar of violence.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on June 09, 2015, 04:54:44 AM
lol it's cool, what does he coach you in? I didn't see the fight but Sherdog said he was getting hurt with strikes in the third.

Wrestling and MMA.

He gassed a bit in the third, but he was never in trouble. He took the fight on short notice, too.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on June 09, 2015, 06:50:38 AM
Mike Richman failed a drug test for an undisclosed drug after his fight in Bellator last month and the CSAC suspended him for 2 years.

Fernando Gonzalez tested positive for pot and got a 90 days suspension.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on June 09, 2015, 07:01:22 AM
phew I'm glad Fernando didn't get fucked for smoking the heefer, but 2 years is crazy.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Grit, Toughness, Soul, & Spirit on June 09, 2015, 07:09:20 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHB-IcuUgAA8r8B.jpg)

Ken's probably getting busted again
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on June 09, 2015, 07:14:06 AM
HELL YEAH SLAMCOCK

KIMBO YOU GOING DOWN
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 09, 2015, 07:22:37 AM
Does Missouri even have an A.C?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on June 09, 2015, 07:30:25 AM
I looked it up yesterday when I saw that picture. They apparently do.

It was also reported that there'd be random, prefight testing but I doubt that's happened.

Bellator don't give a shit if Ken's on the gas as long as the fight goes on. He's not a champion. It's doubtful he fights again. They just want ratings.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on June 09, 2015, 07:31:01 AM
The problem is that other than California, Nevada, and New York, none of these athletic commissions have the resources to do real testing. I bet there's no more than two or three dozen guys who work for the Missouri commission.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 09, 2015, 07:34:13 AM
Re: Mike Richman. Two years is a long time for somebody to be out of the sport and from what I know he doesn't have anything to fall back on. Might as well say fuck it and go over to Asia, earn as much money as you can in 2 years and then retire.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on June 11, 2015, 02:05:52 PM
Jose Aldo was scheduled for a drug test and got the Brazilian police to basically deport the NSAC rep. This is a whole new level of not bending to labour laws as an 'independent contractor'. Read the whole story, it's worth it. Fuckin' crazy.

http://sportv.globo.com/site/combate/noticia/2015/06/tentativa-de-teste-surpresa-com-aldo-termina-com-coletor-autuado-pela-pf.html

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Last week, UFC announced a new anti-doping control program, and one of the concerns expressed by journalists was how would they run these tests outside the US. On Thursday, an incident in Nova União team base served as an example of how this control will be difficult in Brazil. An attempt to hold a surprise test on Jose Aldo in Rio de Janeiro ended up with a notification, a fine and a notice to leave the country for the professional sent by the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NAC) to collect his urine sample.

Upon arrival at the Upper gym, Nova União's headquarters in Rio de Janeiro, Aldo received the news that a collector sent by the NAC was waiting to make a random test - the fighter will defend his featherweight belt (up to 66kg) in Las Vegas, in Nevada, on the 11th July at UFC 189, against Conor McGregor. The Brazilian fighter did what he was asked and collected an urine sample in a plastic pot.

However, surprised by the arrival of the collector, who had no identification linking him to the NAC, the coach and Aldo's agent, Dede Pederneiras, contacted the Brazilian MMA Athletic Commission (CABMMA), which was also not informed about the test. According to Pederneiras, the entity called federal police, who arrived to the gym and found that the American collector, identified as Ben Mosier, from the laboratory Drug Free Sport, had not a work visa - his business visa, according to the officer who attended the site, does not give him the right to work, just hold meetings and negotiations.

Cristiano Sampaio, chief operating officer of CABMMA, came to the gym soon after, already in the early afternoon, and met with the coach, the collector and the federal police. After more than four hours of conversation in a room, it turned up that Mosier could even be deported because of the irregularity on Thursday, which did not happen. Mosier was notified, fined R$ 413.88 and notified to leave the country within eight days, leaving the gym in the evening. Combate.com tried to interview the collector, but he declined to comment on the fact. Sampaio also refused to be interviewed to explain which were the irregularities pointed out by himself in the sample collection process with Jose Aldo. A new collection will be made on Friday by CABMMA in accordance with the NAC. The sample initially taken by José Aldo was thrown away by the fighter himself before leaving the gym in the afternoon. Pederneiras defended the team's attitude in the case.

- We did everything they asked. Before everything happened, Aldo had already taken the sample, (the urine) was already in the pot. But when the Brazilian commission arrived, they saw the collection wasn't done in the way it was supposed to be done in Brazil. And there was an aggravating circumstance, because a federal officer found that the person who was here could not even be doing work, he was working without permission to work. It is the same thing as going to the US on a tourist visa or B1 / B2, from what I understand, and trying to work. I do not quite understand that part but, from what I know, he would need to have a work visa to do what he was doing here. And his situation got worse because the lab person has a problem with immigration here. We don't even get ourselves in this situation. In fact, this is a problem between the Brazilian Athletic Commission and the Nevada Commission. The UFC has nothing to do with this story, who makes this kind of testing is the athletic commission - explained the coach and manager.

Before the confusion, the fighter underwent the test willingly, although he found it strange that the procedure wasn't done by CABMMA. The champion had some difficulty to fill the pot and felt pissed off at times, but he said he did wasn't bothered.

- It is normal. There came a time in the sport that not only me, but also other athletes have to go through it. This is my first time here in Brazil. I think it should have been done by the Brazilian commission, because I live here. But there's no problem. That's nothing to me. Fighting, pissing, to me it's all the same thing - said Aldo.

The champion of the division to 66kg stressed that he did not apply for a license to fight in Las Vegas yet, and that the test date informed by NAC for the first test was another. José Aldo also praised the new anti-doping control policy of the Ultimate, who promised to test regularly in the organization's athletes.

- I liked it a lot. I think you have to work the right way and that's what I trust. You have to get in there and do the perfect job, regardless of what you take or not.

the first big fight post-drug testing protocol already looks like a joke lirl

I don't even hate on Aldo, he always said he doesn't care about PED's, and defended Anderson.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on June 11, 2015, 02:10:08 PM
This is my guess, but odds are this is going to cause even more major problems. If they're going to do a test themselves, meaning the Brazilian commission, that's not really a substitute. The fight isn't being held in Brazil.

I don't know if Nevada will even accept the results of that test and they may not sanction the fight, they have the power to stop it and I don't think they want to make a new policy look like a joke.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on June 11, 2015, 04:11:32 PM
If the NSAC choose to not license Aldo over this there's going to be hell to pay.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 12, 2015, 01:11:05 AM
By who? All the other AC's in the country follow their lead, I'd be willing to bet if they don't sanction the fight and UFC tries to move it to another state they'll get blocked there too.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 12, 2015, 01:28:34 AM
This is my guess, but odds are this is going to cause even more major problems. If they're going to do a test themselves, meaning the Brazilian commission, that's not really a substitute. The fight isn't being held in Brazil.

I don't know if Nevada will even accept the results of that test and they may not sanction the fight, they have the power to stop it and I don't think they want to make a new policy look like a joke.

I think we need to hold off on the pitchforks and torches for a minute here. From what I have read on multiple sites it seems to be agreed upon that this person did not have proper ID when he showed up at Nova Uniao for the test and that it wasn't Nova Uniao but CABMMA that called the police. From what I can tell here Dede and Aldo did the right thing here by providing the sample but if the NSAC sent a guy with an incorrect Visa to get the sample then that fuck up is on them.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on June 12, 2015, 01:38:18 AM
By who? All the other AC's in the country follow their lead, I'd be willing to bet if they don't sanction the fight and UFC tries to move it to another state they'll get blocked there too.

I meant more that Dana will probably have a rage stroke and they'll cancel the show.

After all the hype this fight has seen, if it doesn't happen (especially because of this) he'll melt down.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 12, 2015, 01:55:49 AM
I think this whole thing is getting overblown but if the worst did in fact happen they'd move it to Brazil and throw a shitload of money at Conor which he'd take.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on June 12, 2015, 02:08:49 AM
Why would this fight get cancelled or moved? The NSAC fucked up here, not Aldo.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 12, 2015, 02:09:50 AM
It won't. People are looking for a story here and there really isn't one. The fact that Aldo STILL provided the sample when he had every right to say no should be the end of it but people like stirring the pot.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on June 12, 2015, 09:22:53 AM
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Rumour: Welterweight staple Thiago Alves is set to move to Lightweight. Unable to train fully until August, he hopes to fight again later this year.

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Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on June 12, 2015, 09:24:57 AM
So he's cutting a leg off?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on June 12, 2015, 09:29:36 AM
It won't be that hard. He's carrying extra muscle mass that he doesn't need. He'll be dangerous at 155, which is more naturally suited to his height. His body will look way different though.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on June 12, 2015, 09:39:56 AM
If he loses the muscle mass, sure. He just seems like the type of guy that has to be as jacked as possible.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on June 12, 2015, 11:16:37 AM
Jacked? I don't know if you guys have noticed, but Thiago has gotten smaller and smaller over the years (what a coincidence).
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 13, 2015, 03:19:07 AM
Yeah, the Alves who fought Condit and Mein is not the jacked up gorilla who fought Hughes and GSP.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 16, 2015, 03:44:12 AM
Hey YPOV Misha Cirkunov done signed with UFC.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on June 16, 2015, 04:25:57 AM
The UFC is going to Saskatoon, Saskatchewan.

I hope they at least give them a better card than they gave Calgary.

Edit

Got beat to it in another thread...
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 16, 2015, 05:26:33 AM
Elias Theodoru is going to be on the Canadian version of The Amazing Race with his girlfriend. Gotta hand it to the guy, he knows how to market himself and is doing it well in a country that desperately needs a new mma star to cheer for.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on June 16, 2015, 05:32:30 AM
It doesn't hurt that he comes across as one of the funniest, friendliest guys on the roster.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 16, 2015, 05:38:12 AM
Best hair in the game.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on June 16, 2015, 06:58:22 AM
He's doing what everyone on the roster should be doing. The UFC isn't going to promote or market you at all. You have to do it yourself.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 16, 2015, 08:00:40 AM
I don't think Elias has any illusions about challenging for a belt, he's doing everything he can to get paid as much as possible. Nothing wrong with that.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on June 17, 2015, 02:03:48 PM
See this is what I mean when I said this season was supposed to have more talent. Steve Carl, a guy Dana said wasn't a fighter, he choked out Josh Burkman and was supposed to be a star in the season. He choked in the TUF fight and looked awful, I don't know what the deal was. Maybe he isn't the same after getting traumatized by the Paul Harris.

The guy he fought didn't look much better, and Usman is supposed to be good too.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 18, 2015, 03:08:33 AM
Rony Jason has tested positive for a banned substance, suspended 9 months and his bonus presumably will be taken away as well. Dudes just lucky this shit didn't happen in the US.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on June 21, 2015, 06:32:27 AM
Right after Arlovski's epic fight with Browne, I thought to myself, "gee, I wonder how bitter Tim Sylvia is about this guy's comeback. In fact, what's Big Tim up to right now?"

(http://i.imgur.com/7mDPIba.png)

KOAB help out your hero bro
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on June 22, 2015, 04:47:50 PM
 :'(
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on June 24, 2015, 01:10:59 PM
I don't think there's ever been 2 more unlikeable people on TUF than these gym owners.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on June 24, 2015, 03:05:17 PM
I don't think there's ever been 2 more unlikeable people on TUF than these gym owners.

One episode and I quit. I had no interest in those two being the focal points of the series.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on June 27, 2015, 03:45:18 PM
So Machida's done right?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on June 27, 2015, 03:47:38 PM
It was a disgrace that this fight happened and I hope someone finally wakes up to sanction this sport correctly. Getting knocked out like that twice in a such a short span can lead to somebody getting severely brain damaged.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on June 27, 2015, 03:52:01 PM
lirl and then the guy goes full blown anti-gay. all in all not a great look for the UFC.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Brodypedia on June 27, 2015, 03:57:09 PM
lirl and then the guy goes full blown anti-gay. all in all not a great look for the UFC.

Romero cut a anti gay promo? I switched it off right after the finish.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on June 27, 2015, 04:00:16 PM
lirl and then the guy goes full blown anti-gay. all in all not a great look for the UFC.

Romero cut a anti gay promo? I switched it off right after the finish.

SURE DID CAN'T WAIT FOR THE UPLOAD
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on June 27, 2015, 04:05:11 PM
That's what I thought I heard through his gibberish. What a moron.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 28, 2015, 02:58:19 AM
Holy fuck Steve Bosse got sent to Valhalla.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on June 29, 2015, 03:38:46 AM
I didn't realize until today that the new drug testing policy in UFC puts a ban on IV rehydration. We're going to see a lot of guys changing weight classes.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 29, 2015, 03:40:39 AM
Yeah I think that was Antonio Carlos Jr's last fight at MW on Saturday.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on June 29, 2015, 03:56:37 AM
Personally I think if you need an IV to rehydrate you're in the wrong weight class anyway so it doesn't bother me but there's a lot of people that seem totally outraged.

Rumble's career would have been better off if it was never allowed to begin with.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on June 29, 2015, 04:51:50 AM
People are still going to cut the weight. The IV was just a safe way for the person to rehydrate afterwards. That's the only thing they really got rid of.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 29, 2015, 05:16:01 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/iT6VT72.gif)

Only gay if the ref isn't wearing gloves.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on June 29, 2015, 07:27:34 AM
People are still going to cut the weight. The IV was just a safe way for the person to rehydrate afterwards. That's the only thing they really got rid of.

Dos Anjos first title defense just got a lot more interesting.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 29, 2015, 07:47:35 AM
Does RDA love him some IV's? I don't get it.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on June 29, 2015, 08:57:40 AM
Out of the current champions he's the one who cuts the most weight...
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on June 29, 2015, 09:39:18 AM
They're probably going to still cut the weight, at least at first. When their recovery and performance suffers, that's when people are going to start rethinking which division they're in.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on June 30, 2015, 03:06:33 AM
The uniform reveal was pathetic. I've been trying to see the bright side of the whole thing but now that they've hit the final stage and revealed everything it's totally underwhelming.

And implemented so badly. Weidman's page 404's. Machida's shirt has the wrong name on it.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 30, 2015, 03:15:07 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/vEHPKWA.jpg)

Good lord. Weidman can't stiffle the laughter on how bad this shit is.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on June 30, 2015, 03:16:32 AM
Did you know Giblert Melendez is under contract?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 30, 2015, 03:23:29 AM
....huh?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on June 30, 2015, 03:44:04 AM
They misspelled Gilbert.

They also unveiled a Koscheck shirt. Too bad he's a Bellator fighter.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on June 30, 2015, 03:56:28 AM
http://www.reebok.com/us/ufc-conor-mcgregor-jersey/AH7904.html?cm_mmc=RbkPaidSearch-_-PLA-_-Shopping-_-Shopping&cm_mmca1=US&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=889131020664

you can buy these awful fighter jerseys for the low price of $80 each. The link is for the Conor

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/yna182/CIwe8pPWsAA-G-V_zps3wikwpg5.jpg)

Jacare "Ronaldo" Souza... that's just great

Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on June 30, 2015, 05:23:32 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/vEHPKWA.jpg)

Good lord. Weidman can't stiffle the laughter on how bad this shit is.

Looks like a defective line of Universal Soldiers when I see Cormier's and Lawler's sadness in the mix of Dos Anjos' and Werdum's intense gazes.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 30, 2015, 05:26:26 AM
Mighty Mouse and Robbie- Asleep
Ronda- Got catcalled by somebody in the crowd and is eyefucking them
Cormier- Holding in a fart
Joanna- Spotted a quarter on the floor, contemplating grabbing it
TJ- Thinking about a really good sandwich
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on June 30, 2015, 05:30:49 AM
Can't fucking believe Fabricio fucking Werdum is standing front and center at a UFC sponsorship presentation WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH MMA
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on June 30, 2015, 05:33:23 AM
Don't disshespeck THE GOAT  :'(
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 30, 2015, 06:05:32 AM
"So much cock, these uniforms."
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on June 30, 2015, 08:32:29 AM
JIMMIE RIVERA SIGNED TO THE UFC. BOUT FUCKING TIME. MARCUS BRIMAGE YOU A DEAD MAN.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 07, 2015, 01:48:48 AM
In news that surprises nobody including the fighter himself Ryan Jimmo has been released from the UFC.

Somebody get Scott Coker on the phone cause the fans want Big Deal/Sokodjou II: Electric Boogaloo.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on July 12, 2015, 12:25:32 PM
Yves Lavigne just fucked up bad and stopped a fight super early at the TUF Finale and it was hilarious.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on July 12, 2015, 12:26:46 PM
He's almost as bad as that woman ref.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on July 12, 2015, 01:42:33 PM
I'd almost like to see stomps to the hands when guys are playing that fingers on the ground crap for being a downed opponent.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Grit, Toughness, Soul, & Spirit on July 12, 2015, 02:46:27 PM
I don't know how Ellenberger survived that first hook kick, but that second one flatlined him.

Wonderboy is sick.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 13, 2015, 12:44:32 AM
Wonderboy vs Lorenz Larkin or Albert Tumenov next please.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on July 13, 2015, 05:33:17 AM
Did Wonderboy just become a top 10 welterweight? Wow.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on July 13, 2015, 06:10:50 AM
This is truly the Machida Era now.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 13, 2015, 07:23:50 AM
Did Wonderboy just become a top 10 welterweight? Wow.

Low end of it but maybe. Jon Kavanagh wants him to fight Gunnar at the Dublin show in the fall.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on July 13, 2015, 03:34:04 PM
I'd almost like to see stomps to the hands when guys are playing that fingers on the ground crap for being a downed opponent.

Someone just asked Big John about this on Twitter. Stomping any part of your opponent while they're grounded is illegal.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 14, 2015, 01:26:27 AM
Kicking the hands away, however is a totally legal move and one I'd like to see guys utilize more.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on July 14, 2015, 05:23:54 AM
So Gilbert Melendez was part of a pre-fight drug test for the fight vs. Al Iaquinta that would have happened tomorrow and it came back clean.

So Gil pissed hot around June 13th, which wasn't reported until July 6th. Prior to those test results coming out, he was drug tested for a July 15th fight and was clean.

Interesting timeline since he tested clean during his pre-fight drug test prior to June 13th.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on July 14, 2015, 08:10:46 AM
Fedora is coming out of retirement. I'm willing to be the doesn't fight anyone that isn't a can.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 14, 2015, 08:16:40 AM
He'd clean out the Bellator HW's no problem.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on July 14, 2015, 08:42:25 AM
Like I said, he'll be fighting cans.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Just Call Me Dan on July 15, 2015, 01:59:00 AM
They'll do Fedor Couture. And Couture is a can now.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on July 15, 2015, 02:11:46 AM
Someone on Twitter (Josh Gross maybe?) mentioned that Couture has fights left on his UFC contract so that won't be happening.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 15, 2015, 02:55:14 AM
Yeah my understanding of Randy's situation is that if he ever fights again it'll be for Zuffa.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on July 18, 2015, 06:13:13 AM
Not sure how Pearson survived that arm bar but holy shit that looked bad.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on July 18, 2015, 06:33:35 AM
There's no way he came out of that armbar without an injury
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on July 18, 2015, 07:16:37 AM
Imagine if Bisping had any power at all
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on July 21, 2015, 11:40:07 AM
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/7/21/9012101/ufc-fires-jacob-stitch-duran-cutman-reebok-sponsorship-comments-mma-news

Stitch got the axe seemingly right after talking with Bloody Elbow about how this Reebok deal cost him sponsorship money as well.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on July 21, 2015, 11:49:06 AM
If you're going to publicly complain about your job what do you expect?

I'm so sick of the idea the UFC owes people the right to wear sponsors. They don't owe them shit. You don't think they pay you enough? Negotiate a raise or don't work for them.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on July 21, 2015, 11:58:50 AM
There will be an exodus after which most of the guys currently in the UFC don't work for them. That's what I think anyway.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: NoCalMike on July 21, 2015, 12:01:35 PM
I hope fighters do speak up and there is a mass exodus. They are pretty much powerless in the current situation to do anything about it.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on July 21, 2015, 12:07:00 PM
Also, given that Viacom has been backing MMA promotions for nearly 10 years now and finally has one they own, I have no doubt their intention is to try to overtake the UFC. Shit like the Reebok deal has probably helped them more than everything else, and they're going to reap the rewards over the next few years.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on July 21, 2015, 12:26:17 PM
There will be one or two but everyone's goal is to be UFC champion.

At best Bellator will make UFC pay more. If you want to make more money, give them a reason to pay you more. Holly Holm got signed to a $50k/$50k contract.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: jimmy no nose on July 21, 2015, 02:39:27 PM
I saw the Stitch interview and it really didn't seem that bad.  He basically just said it sucked he was losing money and he'd probably have to pick up more boxing work or do more seminars to try to make up for it since the UFC frowns upon their cut men working for other MMA organizations.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 22, 2015, 02:05:32 AM
Almost the entire main page of the MMA Reddit folder is anti-Reebok shit or threads about fighters supporting Stitch. Way to go, UFC.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on July 22, 2015, 04:26:58 AM
Anyone catch the HBO Real Sports segment on domestic violence with MMA fighters? Mostly about War Machine. They managed to get Jason Miller acting a fool on camera. Imagine that.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 22, 2015, 05:57:31 AM
I haven't seen it but I heard they pretty much steered clear of any real critiques of the UFC which is a shame because their stance on domestic violence has been soft at best and downright stupid at times. Also not sure why they would interview Mayhem since his mental state easily discredits anything he has to say.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on July 22, 2015, 06:59:42 AM
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Reebok

@Reebok

UFC fans: We have no input on decisions of UFC employment or fighter compensation. Our focus is providing the best gear for fighters & fans.
3:03 PM - 22 Jul 2015

    179 179 Retweets
    135

i find it so funny that there are still brainwashed Zuffa stans (some of whom are in the 'media') acting like there's nothing going on. Reebok doesn't respond to nothing. It's also not a coincidence that like as soon as the Stitch news broke, that seven or eight UFC fighters praised the Reebok deal on social media, many of them having the same manager.

Stitch's tweet got about 5-6 times that much social love btw, and he's not a global brand with a million-dollar PR machine behind him. Things are brewing.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 22, 2015, 07:09:05 AM
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Reebok

@Reebok

UFC fans: We have no input on decisions of UFC employment or fighter compensation. Our focus is providing the best gear for fighters & fans.
3:03 PM - 22 Jul 2015

    179 179 Retweets
    135

i find it so funny that there are still brainwashed Zuffa stans (some of whom are in the 'media') acting like there's nothing going on. Reebok doesn't respond to nothing. It's also not a coincidence that like as soon as the Stitch news broke, that seven or eight UFC fighters praised the Reebok deal on social media, many of them having the same manager.

Stitch's tweet got about 5-6 times that much social love btw, and he's not a global brand with a million-dollar PR machine behind him. Things are brewing.

Yeah I noticed that after the Stitch shit went down that Khabib, RDA and Werdum all tweeted Reebok support.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on July 22, 2015, 07:09:39 AM
http://www.mmamania.com/2015/7/22/9013785/jose-aldo-launches-wild-litigation-spree-threatens-sue-ufc-chael-sonnen-rib-roast-mma

Hell yeah get some money from these fucks for their lies.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 22, 2015, 07:13:00 AM
Now I want a rib roast.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on July 22, 2015, 07:20:09 AM
mmmm RIBGATE
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 22, 2015, 07:31:11 AM
MEDIUM RARE
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on July 23, 2015, 02:53:43 AM
Almost the entire main page of the MMA Reddit folder is anti-Reebok shit or threads about fighters supporting Stitch. Way to go, UFC.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/7/23/9022217/ufcs-dana-white-spirited-twitter-exchange-with-idiot-and-moron-fans

People on Twitter tweeting Dana about the UFC firing Stitch... And Dana responds like a child in most cases.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 23, 2015, 03:37:20 AM
I'm done being surprised or even upset at this behaviour. It's just pathetic more then anything.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: jimmy no nose on July 23, 2015, 04:53:00 AM
It has kind of reached a new level of ridiculousness when he goes on and on about how they're trying to look more professional by bringing in uniforms, updating graphics, etc. but the company president spends his nights exchanging insults with fans on Twitter and telling them not to buy his product. He might be the biggest thing holding the company back from getting where he wants it to be.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on July 23, 2015, 05:03:16 AM
Dana has already alienated all but the most hardcore UFC stans, I don't think there's any reversing it. When they tout Conor/Mendes getting 700k buys as the biggest event ever when they've pushed Conor harder than they pushed their most legendary fighters, it says it all to me. Cain/Werdum only pulled in 300k, the May card with two title fights 375k, Mighty Mouse's last fight 125k. Dana is a sad, desperate guy who lashes out because he knows that the gravy train is running out. I think his anger in those ridiculous tweets he makes is actually super legitimate.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on July 23, 2015, 07:31:31 AM
And they'll book something like Fedor vs Jones and everyone will come crawling back.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on July 23, 2015, 07:33:00 AM
Yeah by stealing their show with a stream, like everyone is doing now because they've decided the UFC isn't worth their money.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on July 23, 2015, 07:34:15 AM
No one cares about Fedor like that anymore
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Broward on July 23, 2015, 07:48:29 AM
I'm sort of surprised that Dana hasn't gone further and done away with entrance music or at least have an in-house unit create music for everyone in order to keep a more unified image and remove another way in which fighters stand out
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Brodypedia on July 23, 2015, 11:22:48 PM
http://mmajunkie.com/2015/07/wanderlei-silva-i-can-prove-fixed-fights-in-ufc?utm_source=fb-silvafixedfights&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=facebook  Oh Wandy.....



Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on July 24, 2015, 01:19:48 AM
It's amazing how he used to be such a huge fan favorite and now everyone feels sorry for him and wishes he'd quit digging holes he isn't going to be able to get out of.

This right here is enough for the UFC to sue him into bankruptcy if he can't provide his "proof".
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 24, 2015, 02:04:12 AM
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/7/23/9026523/ufc-bantamweight-pedro-munhoz-drug-test-failure-strange-nova-scotia-athletic-comission-mma

I was wondering where the fuck Munhoz had been. Very fishy story but it's still a bad look for Black House that they've had 4 dudes piss hot in a 12 months span.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on July 25, 2015, 03:25:45 PM
http://www.mmamania.com/2015/7/26/9039395/report-chris-leben-detained-san-diego-amid-multiple-assault-charges

UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 27, 2015, 12:52:03 AM
Dead within five years. Hope I'm wrong but don't think I am.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on July 27, 2015, 02:00:45 AM
well, at least it didn't involve a woman.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 27, 2015, 07:40:52 AM
Ticket sales for the UFC's Nasvhille show have been so poor they've closed off the upper level of the arena.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on July 27, 2015, 07:45:54 AM
You mean a Brazilian guy coming off two losses didn't draw people to see him fight in Nashville? No way, man.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 27, 2015, 07:57:49 AM
Well OSP is a local boy so you'd think that would move the needle. Nope. Maybe the word got out he never.....actually....played football there.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on July 27, 2015, 08:27:37 AM
wait what

WHAT THE FUCK THAT WAS A BIG PART OF WHY I LIKED HIM
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on July 27, 2015, 08:31:49 AM
I must be missing something because there is a link on his Wiki to the Vols media guide for the 2004 season and he is in it.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 27, 2015, 08:34:34 AM
Maybe he didn't play there that long? I dunno, I read it on a twitter feed this morning and it stuck with me. Apologies.

It's actually a solid card too but once again there's some dumb-ass fight placement. Nunes/McMann is on the event poster and not even on the main card.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on July 27, 2015, 08:38:35 AM
Yeah looking at it he didn't play much and was mostly a reserve but wouldn't have shocked me if it was totally played up.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 27, 2015, 08:39:10 AM
But still....that Omega brand. *Shudder*
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 28, 2015, 03:34:13 AM
Josh Thomson went from 11 to 12 in UFC rankings after his loss to Ferguson and now he's been dropped entirely. Thinking either retirement or a Bellator signing is nigh.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on July 29, 2015, 03:28:55 AM
Wandy went and got himself sued by Zuffa. It was just a matter of time.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: MikeofEvil on July 29, 2015, 09:30:27 AM
Aye: http://espn.go.com/mma/story/_/id/13340280/wanderlei-silva-sued-ufc-parent-company-zuffa
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on July 29, 2015, 09:43:10 AM
The number of people taking Wandy's side on the whole thing shows that the level of UFC hate makes being objective next to impossible.

Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on July 29, 2015, 10:05:58 AM
The number of people taking Wandy's side on the whole thing shows that the level of UFC hate makes being objective next to impossible.

Yeah. I'm a big Wandy fan. But he's gone off the deep end since running from that drug test.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on July 29, 2015, 10:12:35 AM
Zuffa is asking for $10,000, lawyer and court fees and punitive damages. They're being pretty nice about the whole situation, all things considered.

Like their statement says, this not only effects the UFC but the Fertitta's casinos.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on July 29, 2015, 11:08:53 AM
That sounds like a "just shut up and go away" amount. I'd have expected a higher number.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 30, 2015, 01:45:15 AM
Per the UFC's twitter account Thiago Alves is going to attempt to destroy his body at 155.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on July 30, 2015, 01:52:57 AM
Even though he has gotten smaller over the years, still not sure if he can make it.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on July 30, 2015, 04:16:00 AM
I'm sure the PED rules had nothing to do with it.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on July 30, 2015, 05:31:30 AM
Not sure how he'll pull it off without PED's and the IV ban. He's not the juice monster who beat Hughes and Koscheck but he still looks way too big to pull it off.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on August 03, 2015, 07:02:13 PM
Seeing Nate Diaz back in the top 15 because he got some publicity over this weekend with Khabib and the UFC rewarded him by bumping him up a few places is the best.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 04, 2015, 12:57:10 AM
It's tempting but Pettis vs Khabib is still the fight to make.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 05, 2015, 01:32:31 AM
Big blow to Alliance MMA as they lost their head grappling coach Neil Melanson to The Blackzillians and now Michael Chandler, Justin Lawrence, Johnny Case and Myles Jury have jumped ship to Power MMA. Because who wouldn't want to train alongside CB Dolloway's beautiful visage?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on August 05, 2015, 05:30:04 AM
Correira is saying she wins the belt before the end of 2016. I wish I could live in a fantasy world like that.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Mr. S£im Citrus on August 05, 2015, 06:52:04 AM
Hey man, you never know, she might have some inside information. For all we know, she may have gotten a tip that Rousey plans to retire in order to focus on her acting career some time between now and "the end of 2016."
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on August 05, 2015, 07:58:46 AM
Tate, Zingano, Eye, McMann and probably Holm all beat her. I don't see who in the top 5 she beats.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on August 11, 2015, 08:40:24 AM
The UFC is not resigning Josh Thompson. 1-3 in his UFC run. Can't blame them really. I still say he won the Henderson fight though.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on August 11, 2015, 09:28:16 AM
Dude's career was destroyed by injuries. He couldn't stay healthy enough to put anything together.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 11, 2015, 10:12:28 AM
Could have easily been 3-1. Probably the most snakebit fighter in recent history if not of all time.

But fuck it. Chandler vs Thomson? Sign me up.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on August 11, 2015, 11:42:45 AM
Silvia's lawyers are planning on a defense of tainted "sexual performance drugs". I guess it's better to say your dick doesn't work than admitting to being a cheater.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 17, 2015, 01:35:04 PM
If anybody feels like rewatching the round of the year Arlovski/Browne is up on YouTube.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 19, 2015, 03:04:46 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/NX38z65.png)

Multiple time domestic abuser makes Facebook post threatening to assault a woman. Makes sense.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Just Call Me Dan on August 19, 2015, 05:42:13 AM
Hope he made a good amount on his run over the last 2 years.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 19, 2015, 05:47:55 AM
Are you implying that something will happen to him over this? Because it most certainly will not.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on August 21, 2015, 12:18:03 PM
Quote
Mike Bohn @MikeBohnMMA

Max Holloway tells me he hasn't been drug tested at all before Sunday's fight: "I don't know what's up with that."

lol
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on August 22, 2015, 04:18:51 AM
Quote
Mike Bohn @MikeBohnMMA

Max Holloway tells me he hasn't been drug tested at all before Sunday's fight: "I don't know what's up with that."

lol

Money on Max!`
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 24, 2015, 12:59:53 AM
Not a terrible little show last night. Nice feather in the cap of Cote to be the first guy to KO Burkman, fun fight too. The womens fight was boss as well, great win for Letourneau.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on August 24, 2015, 01:34:59 AM
Misha got the hype train started early trouncing an undefeated striker with little ground game the way he was supposed to. It's a shame it happened on Fight Pass prelims that nobody watched, but his ground game is legit world-class from top or bottom, and he's a p. good takedown artist. That front headlock takedown he scored was cool as hell.

His striking is still raw but he's got enough skills and toughness to outgrapple a lot of guys outside the Top Ten. I'm hoping he goes far and they don't bring him along too quickly like they did Cummins. Letting him beat up scrubs on prelims while he works on his striking defense will be smart. Crazy good athlete, and big for the weight class.

Shame about Frankie Perez, but it shows that this is a VERY hard sport to pursue, financially speaking. The irony is that Sam Stout is a very good living example of what happens when you try.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 24, 2015, 01:37:51 AM
Stout needs to retire too, when I saw all the talk of "announced his retirement" on Twitter after that fight I assumed they were talking about Sammy. Three brutal KO's in just under a year and a half after going his entire career without a single loss that way.

OAM's grappling looked sharp but he has a lot to work on before he becomes Top 15 material. Did not like the way he stayed stagnant eating those elbows in round three.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on August 24, 2015, 01:42:44 AM
The main event was a huge disappointment but I Just hope Aloe Vera is okay, that looked weird as hell. Holloway was busting him up though, he can fight for the title now and I think a rematch with McGregor would go very differently. He would be an interesting matchup for Aldo. I don't know how he'd deal with a wrestleboxer like Frankie or Mendes though. Give him five rounds.

Erick Silva sucks, if your defense is so bad that you can't handle Neil Magny, then I don't know. KOAB was right Silva is pushed as a young babyface contender while he's a ten-year vet with five years in the UFC. He's 31 and has been through a lot of wars too.

Only the fights with Canadian fighters were worthwhile (Misha, Letourneau, Cote, OAM). I agree about OAM letting himself get hit too much. I was surprised he didn't show more desperation when he was getting tagged with elbows.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 24, 2015, 01:49:18 AM
Silva was...um...off the vitamins for this fight. Big time.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Just Call Me Dan on August 24, 2015, 01:52:05 AM
I keep forgetting to consider who's skills may or may not be a casualty to the new testing (rule of thumb: Brazlilians) before I make my picks.  It's a new ripple to betting that I'm not ready for.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 24, 2015, 01:52:45 AM
Ditto. When I saw multiple rolls of back flab on Silva at the weigh-ins I should have changed picks right then and there.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Just Call Me Dan on August 24, 2015, 01:56:24 AM
I said that about Mir against Duffee, but it'll catch up to him vs AA.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on August 24, 2015, 03:23:09 AM
It is being reported that Oliveira's injury is a tear in the esophagus. What a weird injury to happen.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 24, 2015, 03:23:51 AM
According to Combate it was pre-exisiting though I'm not sure how thorough the pre-fight medicals are that an A.C would catch that.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on August 24, 2015, 04:43:39 AM
Silva was...um...off the vitamins for this fight. Big time.

Yeah I didn't say anything but "HE DOESNT LOOK AS EXPLOSIVE IN THE FIRST ROUND FOR SOME REASON" uhhh
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 24, 2015, 05:25:39 AM
Maybe Big Brown was right and all Brazillians are on roids.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on August 24, 2015, 05:50:31 AM
Yeah, the difference in body shape was quite extreme.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on August 24, 2015, 10:33:51 AM
Looking forward to the short Cerrone reign.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 25, 2015, 12:42:35 AM
Nah man Master Rafael probably knows some sick masking agents from the Chuteboxe days. RDA will be fine.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 25, 2015, 03:18:21 AM
For those of us clamouring for Ronda Rousey/Alexis Davis II we'll have to wait a bit, Alexis done got preggers.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on August 25, 2015, 04:15:48 AM
For those of us clamouring for Ronda Rousey/Alexis Davis II we'll have to wait a bit, Alexis done got preggers.

Now's the time to strike. She's fighting for 2. Might last a whole minute this time
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on August 25, 2015, 04:59:23 AM
I didn't see the fight but Oliver Aubin-Mercier now holds the record for the least amount of significant strikes landed in a win (in the UFC, I assume). With three. He landed three significant strikes over 15 minutes.

Three.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 25, 2015, 05:04:51 AM
Really wish your boy hadn't got hurt, whomever OAM needs to fight next it should be a guy who can stuff his takedowns and force him to work on his feet because that's his biggest weak spot.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on August 25, 2015, 05:39:38 AM
I think Wade can do that, but I'll need to watch OAM's last fight. I also think he can probably take Wade down a few times, but Wade is really good at scrambles.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on August 25, 2015, 09:38:57 AM
Bec Rawlings mentioned on Instagram trying to get down to 115lb
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 25, 2015, 12:19:09 PM
That's her normal weight.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on August 25, 2015, 02:56:33 PM
So it is...I guess she got fat when she got hurt.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 27, 2015, 12:40:08 AM
Jordan Mein retired from mma at age 25. Seems young but he's been in some wars and was competing in amateur fights before turning pro at 18 so his body has been through a lot. Brown/Mein round one will stand the test of time as one of the craziest rounds in the sports history. Thanks for the violence Young Guns.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on August 27, 2015, 01:21:39 AM
Yeah was pretty surprised when I saw that in the paper but I guess it makes sense and kudos for getting out when he thought he should.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on August 27, 2015, 01:27:31 AM
It's crazy that his first fight at 16 was against a 16 year old Rory.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 27, 2015, 01:49:20 AM
Yeah was pretty surprised when I saw that in the paper but I guess it makes sense and kudos for getting out when he thought he should.

Classic example of a fighter who refused to get out of their comfort zone and it stunted his potential but on the same hand the fact that he was able to fight as well as he did given where he trained is pretty amazing. You don't see that skill level in most fighters who train with their dad in a gym where they're the top dog.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on August 27, 2015, 02:39:16 AM
That's a shame. He was a good prospect that never really took off. His murder death kill of Mike Pyle and Dan Miller were fun.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 27, 2015, 02:42:42 AM
Murderdeathkill of Cyborg with the standing elbows is tops.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 28, 2015, 06:11:07 AM
Matt Mitrione has publicly stated that he's planning on testing the waters of free agency after his next fight which is the last on his contract.

Which is to say, expect the UFC to sandbag him by going as long as possible without booking him in a fight for speaking out.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on August 30, 2015, 11:14:36 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/RFQGLkZ.png)
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 31, 2015, 12:51:56 AM
Coker has confirmed that they're not making a bid for him. He already bankrupted one promotion on Fedor, not gonna kill another.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on August 31, 2015, 01:49:19 AM
Fedor vs Big Nog to welcome the King to the UFC.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on August 31, 2015, 01:57:08 AM
He should get revenge for his losses.

First up, Hendo at heavyweight.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 31, 2015, 02:39:14 AM
Front Row Brian is tweeting that it's a lock.

Which is to say, it's not a lock at all.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on August 31, 2015, 02:41:39 AM
If Front Row Brian is saying Fedor is going to UFC he'll probably end up in WSOF.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 31, 2015, 02:55:34 AM
WSOF can't afford him. There's a reason you haven't heard any of their execs publicly comment on signing him. They're dumb but not that dumb.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on August 31, 2015, 03:02:25 AM
I fully expect him to can crush in Russia or Japan.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on August 31, 2015, 03:02:44 AM
Guys, FRB is right a lot of the time.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on August 31, 2015, 03:05:21 AM
WSOF can't afford him. There's a reason you haven't heard any of their execs publicly comment on signing him. They're dumb but not that dumb.

Way to ruin my joke.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on August 31, 2015, 03:08:22 AM
Joke?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 01, 2015, 08:25:12 AM
Russian promotion Fight Nights Russia will start airing shows live on UFC Fight Pass and one of the fighters on its roster is Bellator HW champion Vitaly Minakov. Would love to be a fly on the wall for the next face to face chat between him and Coker.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 03, 2015, 01:06:18 AM
Sam Stout has retired from mma and thank god for it. I didn't need another five years of him getting pasted on regional shows by 18 year olds with less then five fights under their belt. From what I know he's been smart with his money and would make a great striking coach so I wish him nothing but the best.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Just Call Me Dan on September 03, 2015, 12:47:18 PM
Sucks for dudes in the UFC before 155 had a proper division that they had to waste good years of their career.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 05, 2015, 07:13:50 AM
http://www.mmamania.com/2015/9/4/9263737/epic-levels-of-trash-talk-at-gobig-as-conor-mcgregor-slams-everybody

lol this fuckin' guy. respect but damn he went HAM
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 05, 2015, 07:19:10 AM
Quote
Cerrone: Conor has no right coming up to '55. No way, he's not going to stand a chance, we're too big for him, we're too strong. So you can take your little English ass and get on.

lmao based troll
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 05, 2015, 07:19:47 AM
lirl
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 06, 2015, 03:32:52 AM
Quote
Cerrone: Conor has no right coming up to '55. No way, he's not going to stand a chance, we're too big for him, we're too strong. So you can take your little English ass and get on.

lmao based troll

Cerrone saying Conor hasn't beaten anybody followed by Mendes putting his head down is the funniest/saddest shit.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 06, 2015, 03:35:15 AM
http://streamable.com/b006

here's the clip, amazing
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 06, 2015, 03:43:56 AM
Do any pro wrestling or MMA fans care that Phil Baroni got thrown out of the GFW taping in Vegas on Friday for drunkenly jumping the barricade to try and fight Chael Sonnen?

DISRESPECTFUL CRICKETS CHIRPING VIDEO

WTH THOSE CRICKETS ARE DISRESPECTFUL PLENTY OF MMA FANS CARE BROTHER IM GONNA POST THIS IN THE MMA FOLDER RIGHT NOW
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on September 06, 2015, 05:29:06 AM
Don't  care
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 06, 2015, 05:42:02 AM
Mad disrespectful.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 10, 2015, 03:01:48 AM
Didn't watch TUF but LOL at McGregor pulling strings to get his journeyman teammate a spot on the show and the guy loses in the qualifying rounds.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on September 10, 2015, 04:04:44 AM
Its 2015 and Ryan Hall is now on TUF. What a time to be alive.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 10, 2015, 05:38:14 AM
Not enough boxing content to change the name of the folder imo, but I guess you guys want some keyword juice or something.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 10, 2015, 06:52:00 AM
Yeah why weren't we consulted on this one?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on September 10, 2015, 07:37:40 AM
Who knows. I had nothing to do with it.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 10, 2015, 11:22:09 PM
http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/9/11/9309049/morning-report-ufc-tim-sylvia-brock-lesnar-dana-white-conor-mcgregor-ronda-rousey-mma-news

BIG TIM UPDATE
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 11, 2015, 01:10:24 AM
I love that Arlovski has stated that the DQ over Tim was worth it because he got to soccer kick him.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on September 14, 2015, 02:55:32 AM
Sherdog wrote a "Prospect Watch" article on Gregor Gillespie. If you aren't familiar with him, he is the best wrestler to come out of Long Island to go into MMA (better credentials than Weidman). He has a dark past and honestly, you can probably tell the type of person he is/personality he has by looking at him, but the dude is an animal and will be signed to the UFC after his next fight at the end of the month.

http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/Sherdog-Prospect-Watch-Gregor-Gillespie-92287 (http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/Sherdog-Prospect-Watch-Gregor-Gillespie-92287)
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 14, 2015, 03:38:11 AM
Oddly enough I just finished reading that a few minutes before you posted it. Good read, I like how transparent he is about his past and that he's not letting it define him. Everybody loves a comeback story too, here's hoping he can parlay it into a UFC gig.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 18, 2015, 08:20:44 AM
I'm currently engaging in a wonderful back and forth with some troll on the Reddit MMA forums who is dead set that Franklin/Shamrock is a work. Am I missing something? I've never heard that fight talked about amongst the pantheons of worked fights in the sport.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on September 18, 2015, 08:25:12 AM
I've heard it before. I think it's stupid but there's always going to be someone somewhere that thinks every fight is a work.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 18, 2015, 08:26:55 AM
The guy is claiming that Shamrock jumped off his toe knuckles rather then slip.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: AA484 on September 18, 2015, 08:51:53 AM
I remember there being a lot of discussions about that fight being a work at the time.  For what it's worth, Sean O'Haire told me that there were a ton of works in UFC but considering his background I took it with a huge grain of salt.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 18, 2015, 09:21:25 AM
didn't even throw in a RIP, you must think he's SCUM
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: MikeofEvil on September 18, 2015, 10:38:24 AM
I remember there being a lot of discussions about that fight being a work at the time.  For what it's worth, Sean O'Haire told me that there were a ton of works in UFC but considering his background I took it with a huge grain of salt.

He wasn't telling you anything you didn't already know?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: AA484 on September 18, 2015, 10:48:50 AM
He was actually a pretty cool guy.  This was right before a lot of his legal problems started up.  I remember he also told me Crash Holly's wife wanted to fuck him lol.  One night he did a perfect back flip in the middle of the ring and landed on his feet.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on September 18, 2015, 11:33:27 AM
Most shamrock losses have people crying work.  Either is pro wrestling bias or can't believe that Ken wasn't that good
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on September 18, 2015, 12:28:56 PM
The fact that he didn't sync in a gifted RNC on Kimbo who was flattened out.

.. That fight really looks like it could have been a work. However Ken has looked just awful the last decade, so it's possible that he's just that bad now.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on September 20, 2015, 05:50:05 AM
Last decade or last two decades?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on September 20, 2015, 11:01:51 AM
As of early 2000 he was 24-5-2. He's gone 4-11 since

So we can go with "For the better part of two decades"
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 21, 2015, 01:34:39 AM
I could see the Sakuraba fight being a work but I love Saku and don't like the idea of him being in a fixed contest. And I realize that's probably stupid due to his heavy pro wrestling influence but still.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 21, 2015, 03:35:41 AM
KSW champ Karolina Kowalkiewicz has signed with UFC. Great pickup, KK is easily one of the best 115'ers outside the org and Joanna Champion apparently doesn't like her so you know they'll run a title fight in Poland if she racks up a few wins.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 22, 2015, 12:13:40 AM
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The second thing was, he was saying racial things. And that's what I'm saying when I say, things aren't jokes just because you laughed at them, especially if they're hurtful.

urijah understands the anti-racism bubba

http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/9/21/9367475/urijah-faber-reveals-explosive-new-allegations-in-duane-ludwig-feud?_ga=1.126206154.696037321.1422975791
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 22, 2015, 12:49:21 AM
This is the rundown that was posted on Reddit yesterday.....

•Racist ("Constant racist 'jokes' for example: Black guys go to the back of the line!' Black guy to Urijah: He tells me that every day. It's not funny."),
•Chauvinist ("He doesn't believe in WMMA and refuse to train women."),
•Bullying not fighters ("Scaring people, provoking them to fight him."),
•He's always really mean to people, ("Made girl from Alaska cry by telling her mma isn't for her, but didn't want to help her, because 'He doesn't believe in WMMA'."),
•Shady with money ("He called my sponsors to pay him separately without noticing me beforehand."),
•TJ works for him, but he still have to pay him for private lessons ("TJ is doing seminars for him for free, but he still wants money for private lessons."),
•Emotionally unstable ("Cries all the time. In one moment he's nice to you, in the next you are his biggest enemy."),
•Not doing work he was paid for ("Takes money and then goes to do seminar in different city."),
•He's suing Alpha Male for percent of money that they didn't pay him from undisclosed bonuses. ("No such a payments are in the contract.")
•Gets really angry and aggressive, when someone interrupts him. (first example from JRE - thanks to /u/ethems) (second example from JRE - thanks to /u/CongoSnake)
•He can suddenly stop talking to you just because he feels you have "bad energy".
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: AA484 on September 22, 2015, 12:50:48 AM
IDK, sounds like most of the guys I've met in MMA.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 22, 2015, 01:49:03 AM
I can't believe that as a trainer he's charging his meal ticket (TJ) for private lessons. That's fucked.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on September 22, 2015, 03:38:58 AM
Is it just Faber that's coming out with this? I'm ok not thinking too much of this unless more people come out.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on September 22, 2015, 03:44:38 AM
Giving an hour plus interview while lying and not contradicting yourself or changing anything is pretty difficult. I'm willing to believe him on this one.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 22, 2015, 03:47:24 AM
Is it just Faber that's coming out with this? I'm ok not thinking too much of this unless more people come out.

It seems like it's just Faber at this point but even before TJ beat Barao to win the belt there were rumours of problems within the camp between Bang and him so it's not like this is coming out of left field all of a sudden.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 22, 2015, 02:53:40 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPiXqbsUkAAhvKX.jpg)
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 23, 2015, 01:22:16 PM
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Ain't some ishh?? Working my butt *** every time I go to practice with dreams of winning #UFC gold since I was a college student. Training and studying instead of partying. Not doing drugs and not chasing females around because I had one true goal. A burning desire to finally be the best in the world at something. Came up short for High School wrestling, and college wrestling. Now this "is my shot" is slowly starting to feel like this "was my shot."
I'm a realist and in doing the math, I will not be able to have a financially stable future if things don't change. I teach my students to focus on what you can control and the only thing in my control right now is furthering my education and hoping I get my big break into MMA. This sport has so many ups and downs, it's highs and lows, and overall great experiences and perks of being a UFC fighter. With that said, it doesn't last forever and if you aren't at the top of the game in your division, count your blessings if you're able to retire with any money, and with your body and brain intact. Ultimately, this path was my choice and I have no regrets. Just things I'd like to do better and recommend others to do better than I did. At the end of the day. I love this game...
#TeamFunk

Aljamain :(
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 24, 2015, 02:33:02 AM
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Japanese news sources have reported the show being held at the Saitama Super Arena, which makes sense. They’ve also reported that Emelianenko will earn $2.5 million guaranteed for the show, which tells you why he didn’t sign the UFC, since it’s guaranteed and most likely he’ll face a lesser opponent than he would in UFC. UFC had been negotiating with him and it did seem they were close. UFC sources said they were under the impression Emelianenko signed a two-fight deal with Sakakibara’s group.
It is believed the show is being financed by an oil-rich foreign investor who already has a stake in the MMA business. Whether he’s agreed to invest for one show, or a regular promotion, is unknown.

meltz with the scoop
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 24, 2015, 02:48:30 AM
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Ain't some ishh?? Working my butt *** every time I go to practice with dreams of winning #UFC gold since I was a college student. Training and studying instead of partying. Not doing drugs and not chasing females around because I had one true goal. A burning desire to finally be the best in the world at something. Came up short for High School wrestling, and college wrestling. Now this "is my shot" is slowly starting to feel like this "was my shot."
I'm a realist and in doing the math, I will not be able to have a financially stable future if things don't change. I teach my students to focus on what you can control and the only thing in my control right now is furthering my education and hoping I get my big break into MMA. This sport has so many ups and downs, it's highs and lows, and overall great experiences and perks of being a UFC fighter. With that said, it doesn't last forever and if you aren't at the top of the game in your division, count your blessings if you're able to retire with any money, and with your body and brain intact. Ultimately, this path was my choice and I have no regrets. Just things I'd like to do better and recommend others to do better than I did. At the end of the day. I love this game...
#TeamFunk

Aljamain :(

Go to Bellator son.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 24, 2015, 05:30:12 AM
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While no actual timetable is known at this point, there is a belief that UFC will be making the official announcement regarding CM Punk’s UFC debut in the near future.

According to the latest issue of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, UFC will soon be announcing the details regarding Punk’s debut, as the promotion has reportedly started looking at ideas and potential opponents for his Octagon debut.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 24, 2015, 05:32:16 AM
http://mmajunkie.com/2015/09/johny-hendricks-its-partly-the-fans-fault-i-didnt-get-title-rematch

Hendricks' descent into full-blown heel status continues.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 24, 2015, 06:14:05 AM
smart move. I look forward to the day when all the great MMA fighters embrace their personalities and let them out.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 24, 2015, 06:21:46 AM
tbh even as the biggest old school Robbie supporter from waayyyy back (as frustrated as I was with his decision to take a break and try out for arena football wtf) I'm worried about Condit. He's a really bad style matchup for Robbie, because if Rory could almost KO him with head kicks, a guy with the killer instinct and creative striking arsenal of Condit might put him away. The other thing is Robbie has been in a lot of wars, and I'm worried that his expiration date might be coming up.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 24, 2015, 06:35:59 AM
Rory is more technically sound then Condit though, it's that level of discipline that allowed him to get inside on Robbie and land. Condit isn't nearly as fluid but you're right about the creativity in terms of striking. Can't fucking wait for that fight.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on September 24, 2015, 06:36:57 AM
Hendricks was a heel in his college wrestling days.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 24, 2015, 06:42:54 AM
That's why a fight nowadays between him and Askren would be so awesome. There's legit blood between the two and up until recently their personalities post-college did a complete 180. Now it seems like fans are coming around on Ben and starting to not care for Big Rigg.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on September 26, 2015, 01:30:49 PM
This Hirota/Ishihara fight may be the worst combined hair in a UFC fight ever.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on September 26, 2015, 01:44:56 PM
Hahaha

Hirota/Ishihara was supposed to have a 4th round in case of a draw but the officials either forgot or didn't know.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on September 26, 2015, 01:48:46 PM
That face plant into the cage was pretty funny.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 26, 2015, 02:51:49 PM
Brandao killed that guy, Kikuno never knew how to adjust that hands by the waist style aainst legit fighters.

The roop/mizugaki fight started off great but kinda died off. The Gooch is putting on a nice performance against a real opponent here.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 26, 2015, 03:19:20 PM
This Mousasi fight is p. cool so far, I wish he fought this aggressively every time out.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 26, 2015, 03:24:08 PM
well then
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Zetterberg is Go on September 26, 2015, 03:34:54 PM
Damn it Gegard.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on September 26, 2015, 03:39:27 PM
Horiguchi is just so damn fast. And somehow Mighty Mouse is faster. L

And holy fuck did Hall pull off a crazy win. Which just is the Gegard Mousasi thing to happen. Every time he should win a fairly big fight, he loses.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on September 26, 2015, 03:43:51 PM
I find it strange that Barnett gets announced as a former champ.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on September 26, 2015, 04:01:50 PM
Roy's fighting a smart fight but I still have Barnett up 3-0
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 26, 2015, 04:14:27 PM
That was a fun fucking fight, didn't expect it to be that entertaining.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on September 26, 2015, 04:17:52 PM
I thought it was going to be terrible, especially they went past 2 rounds. They proved me wrong.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Mildly Threatening Damon on September 26, 2015, 05:58:32 PM
I find it strange that Barnett gets announced as a former champ.

I know! He got popped after that fight but it somehow counts as a win. What the fuck?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 28, 2015, 01:03:14 AM
Felt bad for Gegard, this pretty much shuts the door on him ever becoming a title contender unless he goes on a ridiculous winning streak but after being in the game for as long as he has and now getting finished like that it'll probably fuck with his confidence something fierce. And as much as it's a great win for Hall you can't look at his UFC record and think that he'll go on to do anything big with the rest of his career. Dudes that lose split decisions to Rafael Natal tend not to.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on September 28, 2015, 03:33:34 AM
RDA lost to Stephens, Tibau and Guida. You can take bad losses and recover.

Hall doesn't have consistency. He'll win a fight like this then have 2 that are the worst of his career.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 28, 2015, 03:35:27 AM
So what you're saying is.......Mousasi needs to get on the roids.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on September 28, 2015, 03:58:18 AM
That or maybe look like he gives a damn. He could give Fedor a run for his money in looking bored before a fight.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 28, 2015, 06:54:54 AM
http://www.theplayerstribune.com/rich-franklin-ufc-retirement/

It's been unofficial for a while, but it's official now. Classy as ever.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 28, 2015, 06:55:27 AM
Was just going to post that. I'm sure he goes into the HOF during the UFC 200 weekend next summer.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on September 28, 2015, 07:30:35 AM
When I first got into MMA, Rich Franklin was one of the few fighters I connected with. The way he carried himself outside of the ring, how genuinely a nice and helpful guy he is, made it easy to root for him.

He was not great at any discipline, but he was good at everything and with a few specific strengths (sick power, great ground defense), he had the potential to beat a lot of great fighters. And what made even the haters respect Rich, was that he had the iron will to make himself a champion with whatever potential he had. No matter what kind of middleweight fight it was, he would have the gas tank to go as hard at the end as he did in the beginning. His conditioning sessions were legendary, he built himself up to a point where he was damn-near impossible to break mentally. The way he escaped bad situations against Tanner and Lutter, the way his career recovered from the Machida knockout, he epitomized the comeback.

RESPECT TO THE RICH
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 28, 2015, 08:06:22 AM
It's pretty telling in a sport where even the "good guys" have a bad story or two out there about them that I have heard exactly zero stories about Rich in all the years I've been watching mma.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on September 28, 2015, 09:30:25 AM
Just a super awesome guy who mows the lawn at his church. He should be doing Matt Hughes' job.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 28, 2015, 12:29:06 PM
Watching baseball feeds during live fights?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on September 29, 2015, 05:21:37 AM
Felt bad for Gegard, this pretty much shuts the door on him ever becoming a title contender unless he goes on a ridiculous winning streak but after being in the game for as long as he has and now getting finished like that it'll probably fuck with his confidence something fierce.

I don't want to be that guy since I am a big fan of Moose, but looking at his wins and losses - it might just be a situation where a guy got high profile wins over big names on the downturn or prospects. His best wins are a should be retiring soon Hendo, 2011 OSP, Sokoudjou, Babalu, Mark Hunt, Hector Lombard and Manhoef in 2008/2009 and upkicking a green Jacare (not to mention going to a DRAW WITH POST-UFC KEITH JARDINE).

I give him all the credit in the world (I think he was FOTY in 2008/09) and he is dangerous, but the dude has never really beaten anyone in the top 5-10 of any division anywhere.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 29, 2015, 05:54:52 AM
I'd pick him to beat Hall in a rematch.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on September 29, 2015, 06:03:51 AM
My point stands - Hall isn't a top 5-10 (unless you rank him at the top of the list after beating Moose).
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on September 29, 2015, 06:08:16 AM
He's in the Top 15 now per the UFC rankings. Which makes me wonder where Rafael Natal, John Howard and Kelvin Gastelum are.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 01, 2015, 03:01:28 AM
BJ Penn wants to come out of retirement and fight Nik Lentz for some reason. Oooookay.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 06, 2015, 03:06:48 AM
Fedor is fighting some 6'5 Indian kickboxer on New Years Eve.

*Fart noise*
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on October 06, 2015, 03:17:30 AM
Fedor is fighting some 6'5 Indian kickboxer on New Years Eve.

*Fart noise*

I don't see the big deal. Dude is undefeated in mma.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on October 06, 2015, 03:18:49 AM
Fedor is fighting some 6'5 Indian kickboxer on New Years Eve.

*Fart noise*

I don't see the big deal. Dude is undefeated in mma.

1-0
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 06, 2015, 03:46:04 AM
I mean, I'm not mad. Fedor is probably one of the only guys who can come out retirement and make 2.5 mil guaranteed.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on October 06, 2015, 04:49:42 AM
Fedor is fighting some 6'5 Indian kickboxer on New Years Eve.

*Fart noise*

I don't see the big deal. Dude is undefeated in mma.

1-0

UNDEFEATED!
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on October 06, 2015, 07:14:05 AM
lol TJ left Alpha Fail to go train in Colorado full time.

Faber and his butt chin are mad.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 06, 2015, 07:43:25 AM
Can't really blame him. Even by TAM members admissions it was the training with Bang that upped TJ's game, not to mention the improvements he made with Mendes and others. For all the shit that's been talked on Ludwig it's undeniable that he had a positive impact from a fighting perspective at that camp.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 07, 2015, 02:41:01 AM
Monte Cox has plead guilty to federal tax fraud, prison time is likely.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 07, 2015, 02:45:21 AM
lol TJ left Alpha Fail to go train in Colorado full time.

Faber and his butt chin are mad.

(http://i.imgur.com/mxjE1cC.jpg)
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on October 08, 2015, 05:51:45 AM
Conor bless.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 08, 2015, 07:36:35 AM
Speaking of Irish dudes Joseph Duffy is a betting favorite over Dustin Poirier.

..............wut?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on October 08, 2015, 07:47:30 AM
Dustin at +190.

I'm putting money down on the Diamond.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 08, 2015, 07:51:33 AM
Negative aspect of the McGOAT Effect: Irish fighters being a favorite in fights where they should not be a favorite. I think Smolka will take out Holohan on that same card too and Paddy is the favorite.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 09, 2015, 02:57:50 AM
BJ Penn wants to come out of retirement and fight Nik Lentz for some reason. Oooookay.

“A little poem for a little man” by Nik Lentz

Hey Beej,

It seems you’re mouthing off,
and making some cracks,
about my boy Mike Dolce,
because he can’t get back.

As you distort all the facts,
and reinterpret the past,
when he worked so hard to save you
from your own fat ass.

Then after you took your beating
instead of being a man
you pointed at him
and said it was his plan.

As you flailed around,
eating jabs and hooks
you didn’t blame yourself
you blamed your cook.

Which is really kind of like
the bully you are
You hog glory when you win
but from blame you stay far.

When a better fighter beats you,
not once, not twice,
but the same amount of times
as those little blind mice.

You got three chances to beat Frankie E
and he mopped the cage
with your legend
for all to see.

Now you sit in Hawaii
contemplating your doom
or beating up your friends
in hotel rooms

But nothing keeps you happy
so you persist
in seeking out glory
you’re a narcissist

All you are is an image
so now you must try
to reacquire the spotlight
narcissistics apply.

By calling out a nutritionist
or me, his friend
to try to suck more fame
before it all ends

But look at it from my place
as you light another joint
Me and you fighting
what’s the point?

Leaving you for dead
won’t move me up the ranks
in your last dozen fights
you absolutely stank

You’re defense is downright awful
So’s your attack
You haven’t looked good
since we invaded Iraq

You can’t knock me out
with a sock full of dimes
and like Frankie from New Jersey
I can beat you three times

But what vacuum in my career
can it possibly fill?
To tool you up standing
or take you down at will?

See, fighting is my present
and fighting is your past
So calling me out
makes you look like an ass

Like the videos on YouTube
I’m going to watch later
You’re like a cranky old man
offering to fight a bunch of skaters

A rusty old destroyer
that can no longer sink ships
Who gets beat up all the time
like a World Star clip

So save your idle chatter
This poem should let you know
I’m on my way somewhere
you can no longer go

So pack the bong and take a rip
Spend your money’s money
but stop your boring blathering
you fat old dummy

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ZWQ3YOMtJaM/UEsnJKgjdkI/AAAAAAAACo0/miO-N7XEaFA/s320/black-kid-oh-snap.gif)
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: MikeofEvil on October 11, 2015, 03:52:06 AM
Holy crap that's amazing.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on October 11, 2015, 04:41:34 AM
Schaub is taking a break from the UFC. He's been one of the more outspoken guys about the Reebok deal. And while I agree with him there, I don't like the guy. So I'm ok with this.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Just Call Me Dan on October 12, 2015, 02:37:02 AM
Sounds like Rogan got through to him after all.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 13, 2015, 01:14:46 AM
Much to the relief of everybody in the mma community we've finally received confirmation that Travis Browne is dicking down Ronda. Breathe, y'all.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Mr. S£im Citrus on October 13, 2015, 02:11:58 AM
Who's Travis Browne?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 13, 2015, 02:42:13 AM
UFC heavyweight, top ten fighter in the weight class with some good wins, 1-2 in his last three. Currently seperated (not divorced) from his wife who has accused him of domestic abuse. Ronda's mom sent out a cryptic tweet about how if everybody around you is telling you that somebody is a douchebag, they probably are. It's assumed she's referring to Travis.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Mr. S£im Citrus on October 13, 2015, 03:07:48 AM
So... he's the Matt Barnes of UFC? Or is he the Derek Fisher?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on October 13, 2015, 03:22:28 AM
Because no matter what, MMA is always going to be white trash at heart, she's going to get pregnant and he's going to get back together with his wife.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 13, 2015, 03:28:12 AM
Dana would track Ronda down with a coat hanger before he'd allow a pregnancy to derail his cash cow.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on October 13, 2015, 03:30:52 AM
She's going to be the Britney Spears of MMA.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on October 13, 2015, 05:25:15 AM
So... he's the Matt Barnes of UFC? Or is he the Derek Fisher?

the Spreewell
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 13, 2015, 06:42:05 AM
Stipe Miocic out of the Rothwell fight for next Saturdays card. UFC is looking for a replacement. Boo to this bullshit.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on October 13, 2015, 08:46:13 AM
So... he's the Matt Barnes of UFC? Or is he the Derek Fisher?

the Spreewell

Is Travis Browne gonna have to choke a bitch?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on October 20, 2015, 02:44:56 AM
Amir Sadallah, TJ Waldburger amongst others cut from the UFC today.

Also Soa Palelei was cut and retired from MMA.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 20, 2015, 02:52:35 AM
Luckily Waldburger is still in a coma from Amagov putting him out, should be a few years before he wakes up and finds out.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 23, 2015, 05:47:47 AM
Norman Parke brought a handbag with him on stage for his weigh-in against Reza Madadi. OH MY GAWD THE SHADE.

(For those not in the know Madadi was jailed for 14 months for his part in a theft of $150,000 worth of designer handbags from a store in Sweden.)
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on October 23, 2015, 06:35:41 AM
I hope Reza is on point and chokes Stormin Norman out, but I think he will have some rust after being away for so long.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 23, 2015, 06:44:57 AM
Parke is so fucking average it's ridiculous. Don't approve of the whole criminal thing but Madadi is a solid fighter, hoping he wins and gets back into form.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on October 23, 2015, 09:27:43 AM
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Rory: what do you think of Canada's new PM?

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[–]RoryMacDonaldUFC 198 points 4 hours ago

I voted for him!

:)

https://www.reddit.com/r/MMA/comments/3pxhrq/im_rory_macdonald_ask_me_anything/
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on October 24, 2015, 06:33:04 AM
You guys need to see the Pendred fight.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Mildly Threatening Damon on October 24, 2015, 09:10:19 AM
(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/531/878/ed0.gif)

Spoiler: show
Sleep well, Cathal
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 26, 2015, 02:47:16 AM
Sounds like this was as good of a card they could have hoped for given the circumstances. Smolka should definitely get a top ten opponent next.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 29, 2015, 02:29:30 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/MagomedovUFC/status/659499037889011712

The Jordan fight is forgiven, Ruslan.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on October 29, 2015, 07:15:33 AM
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Conor McGregor

I know where my allegiance lies and what I do for my country.
I don't need a stupid little flower with a 100 different meanings to tell me if I do or do not represent my country.
Check the facts of its original meaning.
ALL soldiers. ALL wars.
I have the blood of many nations on my gloves. Fought and beat on the world stage.
You have a pint in your hand and a Celtic jersey on in your local. Fuck you and the Queen.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1154813871253577&id=494191297315841

a lot of people are pissed, maybe

http://107cowgate.com/2013/10/18/why-we-wont-wear-a-poppy/

oh
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on October 29, 2015, 07:18:27 AM
Conor really doesn't know history smfh
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 29, 2015, 07:42:11 AM
He knows the history of the British Army in Ireland and anybody else who does can understand why he won't wear a poppy.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on October 29, 2015, 07:46:22 AM
Conor did wear the poppy.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 29, 2015, 07:50:16 AM
But he doesn't now? Is he not speaking out against the wearing of the poppy because of what it symbolizes for a lot of Irish people?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on October 29, 2015, 08:10:59 AM
He's speaking out for himself and the ability to do whatever the fuck he wants. He's defending his wearing of the poppy to others that criticized him for it, hence the 'all' comments.

http://www.balls.ie/mma/conor-mcgregor-posts-controversial-poppy-rant-on-his-facebook-page/314130?utm_campaign=twitter&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitter
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on October 30, 2015, 05:50:46 AM
Combined with Khabib not wanting to fight anymore because the juice isn't worth the squeeze,

http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/10/30/9640524/morning-report-ufc-joe-rogan-miesha-tate-ronda-rousey-conor-mcgregor-kimbo-slice-mma-news

Miesha Tate makes no money despite being a big star in the division, all the lip service to equality in sports is fuckin' BS. When Joe Rogan dishes out criticism it's even more credible to me because of how much he loves Dana.

(http://i.imgur.com/cfy976O.jpg)

THATS THE PRESIDENT OF HIS COUNTRY AND HES CHILLIN WITH HIM LIKE A VILLAIN WHY ARENT YOU PUSHING THIS MAN CALL ME WHEN ROUSEY MEETS OBAMA OR CONOR MEETS WHOEVER THE IRISH LEADER PERSON IS
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on October 30, 2015, 05:52:36 AM
also:

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Jon Bones Jones Verified account
‏@JonnyBones

Honestly I'd fight Daniel in the OSU wrestling room. John Smith can be our referee. Just trying to take back what's mine

    Retweets
    2,107
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12:42 AM - 30 Oct 2015

p. amped to see that rematch.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on October 30, 2015, 05:53:04 AM
Haven't seen anything from Cormier since that would make me think he wins but agree all the same.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on October 31, 2015, 12:04:11 AM
http://phoneboothfighting.com/

Might be the best fighting podcast around. Frank Mir's commentating game translates well to breaking things down on the podcast, and Lundell is a wealth of knowledge. I'm listening to episode #5, their breakdown of the Cormier/Gus fight is fuckin' sick.

"Put a crossfitter and a vegan in a room, see who talks about their thing more" LOL
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on November 03, 2015, 01:50:07 AM
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/11/3/9662800/ronda-rousey-coach-edmond-tarverdyan-bankrupt-ufc-news

wow Honda's mom was right.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 03, 2015, 02:19:56 AM
If only Vic Makie and The Strike Team hadn't devastated his finances. If only.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on November 03, 2015, 02:36:24 AM
Ronda's mom is GOAT.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 03, 2015, 02:42:44 AM
It's spelled c-u-n-t, dude.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Mr. S£im Citrus on November 03, 2015, 03:11:45 AM
It's spelled c-u-n-t, dude.
WOW
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on November 03, 2015, 03:28:47 AM
Other than she is willing to speak her mind and not give a damn, what is the hate on Ronda's mom?

I don't follow her on twitter but from the little I read in Ronda's book and her moms wiki page, her mom seems like a hard working, intelligent woman that doesn't care what anybody thinks.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 03, 2015, 03:37:25 AM
She came off as horribly ignorant on TUF, tried to use the "tough love" approach to justify her upbringing of Ronda when in reality she has the same mindset as the psychopathic child pagent moms who get reality shows on TLC.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on November 03, 2015, 03:48:29 AM
It's spelled c-u-n-t, dude.
WOW

I'm ok with this. She comes off like a total asshole when someone puts a camera or mic in front of her.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Mr. S£im Citrus on November 03, 2015, 03:52:51 AM
I guess I have to chalk that up to my upbringing, then; calling a woman a cunt is beyond the pale, to me. I can't even imagine who should would have had to kill to earn that pejorative.

If he had just called her an asshole, I wouldn't have blinked. Probably not even if he called her a bitch. Cunt, though? I'm sitting here, like, "Which one of Curry's relatives did Ronda's mom push in front of a speeding train?"  :o
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: MikeofEvil on November 03, 2015, 04:39:38 AM
I guess I have to chalk that up to my upbringing, then; calling a woman a cunt is beyond the pale, to me.

Curious, Dub-Cee: you wouldn't have the same reservations about using the term for a guy?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Mr. S£im Citrus on November 03, 2015, 04:44:47 AM
....

I don't think that it's ever crossed my mind that somebody ever would use that term for a guy; I don't live in a culture where that's a thing that happens.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 03, 2015, 05:13:09 AM
I'm Irish/British. Saying that word doesn't faze me at all.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: AA484 on November 03, 2015, 05:37:02 AM
Some people over here in America group it in with the n-word and the f-word (the gay one), so it's pretty bad.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 03, 2015, 06:07:21 AM
Meh. I use it as a positive saying most of the time anyways. And it's not even close to being in the same ballpark as the other two you mentioned.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on November 03, 2015, 07:27:53 AM
http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/local/tarrant-county/2015/11/02/mma-fighter-sentenced-for-using-hands-as-deadly-weapons/75073388/

DAMN CON AIR WAS CORRECT
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 03, 2015, 07:45:18 AM
Why bruise and bloody your hands up when you have a machete?!
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on November 03, 2015, 08:32:20 AM
https://www.gofundme.com/qm8chqsk

LOL Super Calo comes through. Donate!
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on November 06, 2015, 03:42:24 AM
Alan Belcher officially retired
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 06, 2015, 03:48:55 AM
Was just about to post that.

Is it just me or has this year been a big one as far as notable fighters retiring?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on November 06, 2015, 04:21:19 AM
I think it's just a generation of fighters calling it quits.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on November 06, 2015, 04:45:02 AM
Alan is only 31 but has dealt with a ton of injuries, I knew he was already unofficially retired with the eye issues and the increasing time its been since his last fight.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: MikeofEvil on November 06, 2015, 07:18:07 AM
....

I don't think that it's ever crossed my mind that somebody ever would use that term for a guy; I don't live in a culture where that's a thing that happens.

I did not know this. As Curry said, over here it's just a term of abuse. It's certainly not language I'd use in front of my parents. My wife, on the other hand, will use it in front of hers without blinking, and they'll use it right back. And no, it is NOWHERE near the n-word. I don't think anyone ever here actually uses the 'gay' f-word anymore, and I wouldn't have thought it to be any more offensive than any other homophobic slur.

My particular favourite use of this word was when a Northern Irish guy was explaining to me about how some workmen came out to fix a leaking radiator with the phrase "Aye, the cunts came out to fix the cunt." Although this guy is something of an anomaly, since I think he replaces every third noun with it.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: RavishingRickRudo on November 07, 2015, 01:48:48 AM
"How dare you!" to everyone in this thread.

:( to belcher retiring, he was fun to watch.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 09, 2015, 03:00:02 AM
Angela Hill got her walking papers which is probably the best thing for her career. 115 lbs is a shark tank of a division and she needs way more seasoning before she faces that talent level. Win a few more in Invicta or RFA and she'll be back no problem.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on November 09, 2015, 05:13:30 AM
The fact that she even went 1-2 in the UFC with a year training says a lot. Give her a couple injury free years to get some more experience and she could probably be at least Top 10.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 09, 2015, 06:18:53 AM
Depends on how she shores up the holes in her ground game. I think her stand-up was overrated too to be honest, she was getting outlanded by Tecia Torres who is mainly a lay and pray specialist.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on November 09, 2015, 04:06:28 PM
Cro Cop posted a long essay on his facebook page in Croatian. The rough translation is that he had a bad shoulder injury in training and is out of the Hamilton fight, and with all the nagging injuries and pain due to 80 fights in Kickboxing/MMA in 20 years, he's retiring.

RESPECT TO A GOAT
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on November 09, 2015, 04:11:25 PM
rough translation:

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    Dear friends, I had to unfortunately cancel the fight in Seoul. As early preparations hurt my shoulder and so I could raise a hand. I tried to save his shoulder injury and repair in all possible ways, and daily therapies and injections of blood plasma and various cocktails of drugs but did not work out. the only remedy would be a break of two to three weeks and that I could not afford in the midst of final preparations. daily training the injury only worsened. part muscle snapped, his shoulder is a lot of fluid, and the great danger is that tendon ruptures and then again in operation. I do not need it, especially at my age. all summer, I walked in Munich on therapy at one of the famous doctor works chronic inflammation of the tendons on the grips sit bone that's driving me crazy, in Vinkovci when I go 2 times I have to stop working during times of pain in these tendons that hurt me terribly, seated right knee which was operated on four times, too. and now even the shoulder, back not to mention. Whenever I go to a magnet no matter what, and what I record, report begins with 'degenerative changes', but that is the price that must be paid. people naturally see only one side of the coin, material things, and for the passion, pain, blood and tears no one asks or cares. but it is so in life. now two in the morning and I can not sleep, thoughts and tinkles spinning his career before his eyes. and I am aware that I have come to the end of his martial times. but training the pain no longer want. my body izraubano of countless training, collected 9 operation body has become prone to injury, after each workout I put ice on his knee operated on because it was full of liquid, twice weekly. next fight would have been 80 this professional and that is a lot. especially in this competition. K-1, Pride, IGF, UFC. The biggest problem will be my adaptation of the 'civilian' life. no two workouts a day and the eternal journey around the world, which we will not be so tough on you. I train while I'm alive because it is my life but not at this rate and I was glad in a way. This is not an immediate decision because I'm unhappy doing all this but my final decision. and it is best for me. sooner or later the time comes when one must and the health of their thinking. I had a really long and rich career and I believe I left a deep mark in the martial arts, in a free fight in K-1 and have nization pour. thanks to all who have followed me and supported me and remain beautiful memories and memories. greetings!
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Grit, Toughness, Soul, & Spirit on November 09, 2015, 04:24:14 PM
The Gonzaga win is a fitting end of my all time faves. Glad he went out with a win.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on November 09, 2015, 05:01:51 PM
He had nothing left to prove years ago. I'm glad he got to beat Gonzaga for his last fight.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 10, 2015, 12:44:28 AM
 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Mr. S£im Citrus on November 11, 2015, 08:01:35 AM
I think I saw on Bing yesterday that Rousey says that she's voting for Bernie, because he doesn't take money, or something. I haven't read up much on Sanders, but my gut reaction is that that strikes me as something that's unlikely to be true.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on November 11, 2015, 09:35:52 AM
He doesn't take corporate money is what she was saying, which is true for the most part.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on November 11, 2015, 11:27:23 AM
Cro Cop posted a long essay on his facebook page in Croatian. The rough translation is that he had a bad shoulder injury in training and is out of the Hamilton fight, and with all the nagging injuries and pain due to 80 fights in Kickboxing/MMA in 20 years, he's retiring.

RESPECT TO A GOAT

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/11/11/9717574/ufc-announces-doping-violation-mirko-crocop-usada-injury-hamilton-fight-seoul-mma-news

Yep. Tested dirty.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on November 11, 2015, 12:08:43 PM
well he admitted to taking a cocktail of drugs. with his body in the shape that it was in, I don't blame him this time around.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 12, 2015, 01:35:29 AM
Khabib isn't retiring, hopes to be back for Super Bowl weekend. So that's good.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 13, 2015, 01:22:22 AM
Luis Santos couldn't make the welterweight limit for his rematch with Ben Askren at OneFC, Askren said that he would still fight him if Sapo could stay below 190 lbs and he couldn't even make that. Fight is cancelled. Bulllllllshit.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on November 13, 2015, 01:37:17 AM
He didn't even ask for him to be 190 before the fight, but the morning of the fight lol
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: AA484 on November 13, 2015, 01:49:50 AM
Couldn't even make 20 pounds over his target weight?

On a related note, I am going to try and cut 13 pounds between now and March to get to 147 for my Muay Thai fight and I've never had to really cut before so I don't really know what to expect.  I've naturally lost 20 pounds since June just by improving my diet and ramping up my training regimen but I'm pretty sure I've hit a wall in "natural loss".  Any ex-wrestlers out there or other guys who've had to make weight?  Don't you do BJJ, HSJ?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 13, 2015, 04:00:16 AM
Dolce Diet, bruh.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: AA484 on November 13, 2015, 04:13:03 AM
Looked up the book and the first two fighter quotes for it were from two fairly notorious dopers (Belfort and Sonnen) lol.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on November 13, 2015, 05:23:31 AM
There's a lot of info to dig through here, but it's a good collection of weight-cutting articles, mostly related to wrestling:

http://www.ussportshypnotist.com/cutting_weight.htm

If you have a little more time, the Grappler's Guide to Nutrition is apparently great. Lots of grapplers/wrestlers I knew back in the day used this one, and John Berardi is a credible name in nutrition and exercise:

http://www.elitewrestling.net/Forms/grapplers-guide.pdf
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on November 13, 2015, 02:43:31 PM
Couldn't even make 20 pounds over his target weight?

On a related note, I am going to try and cut 13 pounds between now and March to get to 147 for my Muay Thai fight and I've never had to really cut before so I don't really know what to expect.  I've naturally lost 20 pounds since June just by improving my diet and ramping up my training regimen but I'm pretty sure I've hit a wall in "natural loss".  Any ex-wrestlers out there or other guys who've had to make weight?  Don't you do BJJ, HSJ?

I do a IIFYM method for dieting and using myfitnessapp to keep track. I have a guy with a masters in sports nutrition who gives me advice which is mostly good, but he's a paleo guy which I know some people aren't against. I don't cut too much weight but a brown belt I use to train with always does water loading to cut weight (and he always makes it). There was an article online about water loading that was really helpful, I'll try to find it when I get some free time.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on November 16, 2015, 02:43:05 AM
Here is the article on water loading I was talking about. Very useful and informative.

http://fourhourworkweek.com/2013/05/06/how-to-cut-weight-ufc/ (http://fourhourworkweek.com/2013/05/06/how-to-cut-weight-ufc/)

Also, I just now realize that your fight is in March and you only need to lose 13 pounds. Don't even stress it dude, that is way more time than you really need. Is it same day weigh in or night before?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on November 19, 2015, 05:40:07 AM
Per Meltzer - Benson might be on his way out.

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Benson Henderson is going to let his contract expire and test free agency. I believe his 11/28 fight in Seoul, South Korea, will be the last or is nearing the end of his contract. Thiago Alves pulled out of that main event with a broken rib and Henderson will now be facing Jorge Masvidal to headline. Because Henderson is partially Korean (his mother is Korean), he was the key to the main event. Bellator would obviously be interested in adding Henderson to their lightweight division.


Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on November 19, 2015, 05:50:52 AM
Was just about to post that, but the board has been unviewable due to slowness.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 19, 2015, 06:35:55 AM
Your signature isn't helping either dawg.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on November 19, 2015, 06:59:39 AM
ha I changed it after I posted that, but I'll change it again.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 19, 2015, 07:08:02 AM
I quite liked the BJ and Fedor pic.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on November 19, 2015, 10:28:00 PM
http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/11/19/9766542/dana-white-i-laugh-at-georges-st-pierre-comeback-talk-because-gsp-is

Yet when Brock was doing that camp to figure out if he wanted it, Dana was probably sitting beside his phone the whole time. Dana's scared he'll come back and win the title.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: AA484 on November 19, 2015, 11:19:51 PM
Here is the article on water loading I was talking about. Very useful and informative.

http://fourhourworkweek.com/2013/05/06/how-to-cut-weight-ufc/ (http://fourhourworkweek.com/2013/05/06/how-to-cut-weight-ufc/)

Also, I just now realize that your fight is in March and you only need to lose 13 pounds. Don't even stress it dude, that is way more time than you really need. Is it same day weigh in or night before?

Sorry, just saw this.  Day before.  I guess I was thinking more along the lines of cutting, say, ten or so pounds leading up to the weigh in.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 20, 2015, 01:32:03 AM
http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/11/19/9766542/dana-white-i-laugh-at-georges-st-pierre-comeback-talk-because-gsp-is

Yet when Brock was doing that camp to figure out if he wanted it, Dana was probably sitting beside his phone the whole time. Dana's scared he'll come back and win the title.

You think GSP could take Lawler?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on November 20, 2015, 01:50:39 AM
I don't know, but Dana doesn't want to take the chance.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 20, 2015, 01:53:46 AM
I'd say there's a 0.001% chance GSP wins that fight. Not sure why Dana wouldn't want to pop a huge boner I mean buyrate with the money that would come with GSP's return to the sport.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on November 20, 2015, 02:27:54 AM
Wow people are already counting out the GOAT? 

It doesn't make sense for him to publicly discourage a comeback like that unless he doesn't want anything to do with him. He's p. much been saying as much since the Hendricks fight.

Also, Condit might be the champ by the time GSP makes his decision.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Just Call Me Dan on November 20, 2015, 02:43:41 AM
.001% George St. Pierre beats Robbie Lawler?  Is that a typo?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 20, 2015, 03:22:09 AM
Is that a serious question?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on November 20, 2015, 03:34:33 AM
Lawler is at the top of his game and GSP hasn't fought in a long time and was declining when he left. I have Lawler over GSP as well.

I may even have Condit over GSP now.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 20, 2015, 03:39:19 AM
Depends on how shot GSP's knees are. Condit gets taken down by a stiff breeze, could still see GSP outworking him for enough rounds to win a decision.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on November 20, 2015, 04:09:25 AM
GSP and his coaches gameplan fights better than anyone else. I didn't give Lawler that second Hendricks fight (although I gave him the first). Robby isn't at all unbeatable.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: AA484 on November 20, 2015, 05:16:37 AM
I thought Lawler lost both Hendricks fights and was losing the MacDonald fight until the TKO.  Even considering the layoff, I'd have to side with GSP.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 20, 2015, 05:41:50 AM
I gave Hendricks the first fight and Lawler the second one. Too much wall and stall bullshit from Johny in the rematch and Lawler landed almost all the significant offense.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on November 21, 2015, 11:40:36 AM
Poor Jorgenson. He's tougher than he is smart.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on November 22, 2015, 01:14:15 AM
Damn, did nobody watch this? Cejudo proved he's got good striking, but I'm not so sure he has the advantage in MMA wrestling over DJ that he thinks he does. Still, when he said he hasn't showed all his stuff and would bring out his entire toolbox for DJ, I got p. hyped.

Diego has GOAT toughness, GOAT MMA Scrambling, but wtf doesn’t he use it more one of the best switches of all time WHYYYYYY

WTF Neil Magny’s grappling is fuckin’ sick, especially his transitions in improving position. That makes the Maia dominance that much more impressive. He’s really good at gaining leverage in the clinch too.

I liked how he tied up Kelvin and prevented him from GnP while on his back when he wasn’t hurt. The way he recovered from the knockdown showed a lot of good technique and heart too, because he was rocked. Not such a good idea to come forward and get rocked again though.

He also knows how to use his reach perfectly, as he kept Kelvin on the end of his punches for most of the fight and that’s why he won. THAT STRIKE RATE DIFFERENTIAL SECOND ONLY TO THE GOAT

This guy is a legit great fighter. Some have been trolling that line for a while, but you can’t deny his wins in such a short amount of time and what that means for his toughness, and the fight IQ he used to gain those wins. He also improved significantly throughout his fights, gotta give credit where credit is due.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on November 22, 2015, 05:53:49 AM
The first three fights. Nearly put me to sleep and really killed the rest of the card for me. I don't think they need to televise finalists from a TUF season that people aren't watching.

Diego was tough as hell. He looked really good in spots. But it was still an easy 30-27 fight to score. Those switches on the mat were very nice.

I gave Kelvin a 10-8 round 4 making the fight a draw. The loser of that fight was going to be in a bad spot. Good enough to stay. But not cracking the top ten.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 22, 2015, 08:41:37 AM
Neil Magny isn't a great fighter at the moment but with his growth rate and improvement he can be one. Love that he's staying active as much as he is and I respect the fuck out of him for saying he'll still fight Wonderboy in January.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 25, 2015, 01:22:58 AM
So are we gonna talk about the interview Jon Jones did with Helwani? Really good stuff but man did he throw Dana and the NSAC under the bus. To flat-out state that the UFC knew that Vitor was on steroids prior to their fight is fucking ballsy and really unheard of from fighters. Some guys speculate but he's straight-up stating it as a fact. How can the UFC not respond to this? They kinda have to, right?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: AA484 on November 25, 2015, 02:47:47 AM
Bad Decisions: 2015

Expanding on my earlier work on this subject, I have been keeping track of all decisions in the UFC and have been assigning my own scores to each one.  Taking it a step further, I also assigned a "confidence" grade of 1-5 to the winner of each round; 1 being a very close round in favor of the winner ("lowest" confidence, in my opinion) and 5 being a dominant round in favor of the winner ("highest" confidence, in my opinion, but not necessarily a 10-8).

In order to qualify as a "bad" decision, a fight has to have had the actual loser of the fight win more than one (or three rounds in a title fight) on my score card with an additional grade of 2 or higher.  This removes decisions where I didn't necessarily agree with the actual winner, but could see where certain rounds could have been scored differently.

The results so far this year ("confidence" scores in parentheses):

Cerrone vs. Henderson (UFC Fight Night: McGregor vs Siver)
1st Round: 10-9, Henderson (2 out of 5)
2nd Round: 10-9 Henderson (2 out of 5)
3rd Round: 10-9 Henderson (1 out of 5)

Masvidal vs. Iaquinta (UFC Fight Night: Mendes vs Lamas)
1st Round: 10-9, Masvidal (4 out of 5)
2nd Round: 10-9, Masvidal (1 out of 5)
3rd Round: 10-9, Masvidal (2 out of 5)

Nover vs. Nam (UFC Fight Night: Edgar vs Faber)
1st Round: 10-9, Nover (4 out of 5)
2nd Round: 10-9, Nover (3 out of 5)
3rd Round: 10-9, Nover (3 out of 5)

Rodriguez vs. Rosa (UFC 188: Velasquez vs. Werdum)
1st Round: 10-9, Rosa (2 out of 5)
2nd Round: 10-9, Rodriguez (5 out of 5)
3rd Round: 10-9, Rosa (3 out of 5)

Nijem vs. Holbrook (UFC on FOX: Dillashaw vs. Barao II
1st Round: 10-9, Nijem (2 out of 5)
2nd Round: 10-9, Nijem (3 out of 5)
3rd Round: 10-9, Nijem (3 out of 5)

Interestingly enough, a fight I scored on re-watch (Johnson/Dariush) wasn't quite as bad as I initially thought.  I still had Johnson as the victor but the confidence score for his first round was 1 out of 5, as I thought it was a very close round.  If someone were to have scored the third in favor of Dariush, it would have put him over on the basis of winning the very close first round.

Another interesting fight to note is Ticman/Zhikui.  Ticman was on his bike the whole fight but I still had him winning every round and at worst thought that it deserved a draw as I thought Ticman deserved a 10-8 for the last round.  Another thing to consider is that Zhikui connected on only 8% of his strikes, which has to rank as the lowest percentage by a winning fighter (with a minimum number of strikes) in history.  I know aggression plays a factor, but still.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 25, 2015, 02:54:06 AM
Why you trying to upstage my Jones post bro?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: AA484 on November 25, 2015, 02:56:02 AM
TL;DR was right there and you didn't touch it.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on November 25, 2015, 02:57:58 AM
lol I already saw the Jones video, it was great and yeah I was really happy to see him rip Dana. I think I posted before that Malki tweeted out that Jones was super pissed about the Belfort thing, glad he opened up.

Great initiative, BR4L. Would be cool to pile them up and look back on them. If a score seemed wrong to me, I look at the aggregation of all the scores by people in the MMA media. There are usually about 15 or so of them, and the closer they are to a consensus at odds with the judges' decision, the more of a robbery I feel it was. Fightmetric is another good measuring stick.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 25, 2015, 03:05:33 AM
If we're talking bad decisions 2015 then that list begins and ends with Cathal Pendred vs Sean Spencer.

Edit: And just after I post this I see that Pendred has retired lol.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on November 25, 2015, 03:15:47 AM
Just came in here to post that. Your post broke him mang.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on November 25, 2015, 03:19:25 AM
After the way he got pieced up by Breese I don't blame him. He seems like a really nice guy in interviews but I can't fucking stand it when fighters openly acknowledge that they have a boring/ineffective style, talk about changing things up and don't do anything about it. Either evolve or just keep your thoughts to yourself.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on November 25, 2015, 04:00:07 AM
Who is CM Punk going to fight now?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on November 25, 2015, 05:07:11 AM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3fimts_georges-st-pierre-says-dana-white-is-the-reason-he-retired_sport#tab_embed

YES FINALLY GSP SHITS ON 'CLASSLESS' DANA WHITE GO HAM BRO
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on December 04, 2015, 07:01:57 AM
Oh noes fuckin WAY?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!????

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/UFCs-Gleison-Tibau-Provisionally-Suspended-by-USADA-for-Potential-AntiDoping-Violation-96681
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on December 04, 2015, 07:07:27 AM
I'm legit shocked. I figured he was one of those guys on the juice who was never going to get caught.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on December 04, 2015, 07:09:28 AM
People on Sherdog are saying he should have his last win taken away. Why? He was caught in an out-of-competition testing (which I think is a joke anyway).
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on December 04, 2015, 07:18:08 AM
He should have the win changed to a NC because it's a shitty ref call but it's over Abel Trujillo so whatever.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Wrestlemania/Limp Bizkit WINNER on December 05, 2015, 06:08:09 PM
Who is CM Punk going to fight now?

http://www.foxsports.com/ufc/story/ufc-dana-white-cm-punk-scouting-for-first-opponent-on-reality-show-120315

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbBD7gmpDCQ

lol
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on December 05, 2015, 10:27:02 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3346048/Outrageous-rumour-Cristiano-Ronaldo-gay-relationship-kickboxer-friend-emerges-French-TV-panellist-suggests-cuddling-affect-star-pitch.html

ronaldo likes thugs eh
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on December 07, 2015, 07:12:25 AM
Ronda: "It might be three to six months before I can eat an apple, let alone take an impact."

Welp, there goes the rematch at UFC 200. Holm fucked her up big time.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on December 08, 2015, 08:21:05 AM
http://mmajunkie.com/2015/12/ufc-prospect-aljamain-sterling-could-be-the-next-to-test-free-agent-waters

makes a lot of good points.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on December 08, 2015, 08:23:46 AM
If he's getting paid so badly, why didn't he take the teaching job that he was basically given that pays more? Lots of people want to get paid well for doing what they love. It doesn't work that way for most people. The UFC is going to pay what they pay because there's always someone willing to fight for 10k/10k. Sterling sure as hell was.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on December 08, 2015, 08:28:26 AM
The teaching job will always be there. But once Sterling fights out his contract, it's not unrealistic he could make 200k a year fighting, whether that's in the UFC or not.

For most of these talented guys now, I'm sure they're just trying to fight through their contract.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on December 08, 2015, 08:30:04 AM
It's bad enough that Sterling/Eduardo is on the FP prelims but it's not even the fucking main event. SMDH.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on December 08, 2015, 08:32:02 AM
What gets me is these guys act like Dana held a gun to their heads and forced them to sign a contract. He agreed on the contract. He has no room to bitch.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on December 08, 2015, 08:33:59 AM
Sure he does. The two aren't mutually exclusive. He signed the contract because he was a mostly unknown prospect who was offered a shot at the big time. Doesn't mean that once he's there that things can't change for the better.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on December 08, 2015, 08:36:26 AM
Also his issue is not with the terms of his previous contract. It's with the fact that they're not giving him enough fights, and that the contract they've offered after this one finishes is not good. Which is the point of the article, that he's going to test free agent waters to see if he can find a better one.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on December 08, 2015, 08:37:58 AM
Zuffa also changed the terms of the contract by not allowing these guys to pick up sponsorship, further limiting their earning potential.

The problem is that Zuffa is deliberately not offering guys fights because they know that the fighters are disgruntled and that they're going to have to pay them to make up for the loss in sponsorship dollars.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on December 08, 2015, 08:38:29 AM
Then he can finish up his contract and go somewhere else after his matching period is over.

And the number of fights thing is a problem with the size of the roster. The only way to fix that is a mass firing.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on December 08, 2015, 08:40:52 AM
Then he can finish up his contract and go somewhere else after his matching period is over.

And the number of fights thing is a problem with the size of the roster. The only way to fix that is a mass firing.

I don't think it has a lot to do with the size of the roster. It is a deliberate tactic, one they've used on other fighters during other eras. Introducing other weight divisions, like the one Sterling fights in, was also not some altruistic thing. It was another way of acquiring cheap labor to fill out shows.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on December 14, 2015, 08:51:58 AM
Quote
Aljamain Sterling on #themmahour calls the UFC's contract offer "a slap in the face." Strong words.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on December 14, 2015, 08:55:00 AM
Was just coming here to post that. I still think he stays, 135 is a thin division and I dunno if they'd hand Bellator one of the top prospects in all the sport approaching the peak of his career.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on December 16, 2015, 03:52:24 AM
Brendan Schaub, doing a fabulous job of making himself look stupid is claiming that Nova Uniao fighters are "0-8, 1-7" since the random drug testing started. Riiiiiight.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on December 16, 2015, 03:53:31 AM
Yeah I'm sure it had nothing to do with the fact that Conor and Dillashaw are straight up killers.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on December 16, 2015, 04:09:49 AM
CABMMA is saying that there's a ton of fighters who have submitted fraudulent medical reports since they began requiring medical tests before fights and have said none of them are UFC fighters.

BloodyElbow's article on it uses a picture with a giant UFC logo in it. Top shelf reporting.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on December 16, 2015, 08:16:49 AM
Yeah I'm sure it had nothing to do with the fact that Conor and Dillashaw are straight up killers.

I mean, he's not wrong in that Nova Uniao has had a rough go of it lately but I'm not sure how that somehow relates to everybody being on the juice.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on December 16, 2015, 08:39:30 AM
Anytime Schaub opens his mouth you know that you're about to hear some stupid shit.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on December 16, 2015, 08:53:38 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/z9xObIb.jpg)
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on December 16, 2015, 08:55:09 AM
Like Nate would care if he tested positive.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on December 16, 2015, 08:56:58 AM
Lol those roids
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on December 16, 2015, 11:39:53 AM
Vegan juice
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on December 16, 2015, 12:16:01 PM
damn the disrespect against a legend. He's just finally been able to heal his injuries that Dana White kept forcing him to fight through and is entering his prime muscle building years. haters gonna hate
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on December 17, 2015, 02:45:39 AM
To the surprise of absolutely nobody WSOF has terminated its relationship with Ali Abdel-Aziz. Can't believe it took this long frankly.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on December 18, 2015, 10:01:05 AM
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funkmaster_ufcWhen the @UFC calls your manager and tells them you're good to start shopping around as a #FreeAgentProspect.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on December 20, 2015, 09:39:52 AM
Bellator should sign him, Bendo, Mitrione and Overeem and introduce them like The Radicalz.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on December 21, 2015, 03:20:07 AM
Juliana Pena was arrested and charged with assault after a bar fight. Ruh roh.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on December 22, 2015, 02:43:59 AM
Someone broke into Nick Diaz's house and stole his $50,000 triathlon bike. They better hope the police find them before he does.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on December 22, 2015, 05:01:59 AM
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/TJ-Dillashaw-Chael-Sonnen-is-an-Idiot-that-Cannot-Stay-Clean-97621

I really like the way he comes across here. Very professional wrt the drama, carries himself the way an elite UFC fighter should in terms of his approach to his career and the haters. The part about Chael was refreshing because as much as I like him, nobody really calls him out. TJ pointing out the management link between Chael and Urijah does a good job of exposing Chael's motivation.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on December 22, 2015, 05:11:05 AM
Emmanuel Yarborough died. He was 51 RIP
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: jimmy no nose on December 23, 2015, 02:19:33 AM
ONE Championship is taking huge steps to do away with weight cutting.  Unfortunate that progress on these things generally only comes after the worst case scenario has already played out, but good to see that they've designed what looks like a very good system that will be tough to cheat. Hopefully other organizations follow suit:

http://onefc.com/news/611-one-championship-revolutionizes-mma-with-new-weigh-in.html
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on December 24, 2015, 01:47:42 AM
Chris Leben is training hard and feels like he can compete with the young guys in sparring. Hints that the time off from training/addiction has reinvigorated his body and he feels great (insert steroid accusation here). I don't think this guy should fight anymore, but Leben is Leben and if he wants to do it, I can't blame the UFC for giving him an opportunity. I don't know if his body is what he says it is though.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on December 24, 2015, 06:02:15 AM
http://www.ufc.com/news/Edward-James-Olmos-on-the-Art-of-MMA

respect from a legend.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Youth N Asia on December 24, 2015, 06:45:44 AM
Chris Leben is training hard and feels like he can compete with the young guys in sparring. Hints that the time off from training/addiction has reinvigorated his body and he feels great (insert steroid accusation here). I don't think this guy should fight anymore, but Leben is Leben and if he wants to do it, I can't blame the UFC for giving him an opportunity. I don't know if his body is what he says it is though.

It seemed like they were selling "the new Chris Leben" every time he fought coming off a loss. Every single time he'd come back off a loss Leben would go on about finally training right, getting clean, blah blah blah.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on December 30, 2015, 08:14:32 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/h51LKPq.gif)

Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on December 30, 2015, 11:11:48 PM
FEEEEEEDORRRRRRRRRRRR
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on December 31, 2015, 01:30:02 AM
Jaideep :(

This guy might actually have potential if brought up the right way with a good camp. Probably too traumatized to ever fight again though.

Fedor looked p. sharp, and more important to me he fought smart, not recklessly like he did in some of his losses. But I'm quite sure guys like Cain wouldn't be easy to ragdoll like that, even if Fedor could punch his way into the clinch.

I don't know who makes a good heavyweight fight for him outside of the UFC. Also, looking at their top ten I'd feel comfortable picking him against most outside of Reem/Cain/Werdum. JDS looks cooked now unfortunately, and I still don't think the rest of the old guard in Barnett/Mir/Arlovski can keep up with him. But we never got Barnett/Fedor or Mir/Fedor, and those would both be awesome fights now.

But a potential fight with Fedor makes Bellator an attractive destination for any big-name free agent. Can you imagine Fedor vs. Jon Jones? The Reem is a free agent now that I think about it, he could get a MASSIVE payday if he decided to take that fight. A lot of people have been wanting to see that for years too. I hope his manager knows to bring that up in negotiations with the UFC brass, at least.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on December 31, 2015, 01:32:51 AM
StrikeForce basically made the HW Grand Prix with the intention of the finals being Fedor/Reem, I'm sure Coker would still love to make that fight.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on December 31, 2015, 01:42:02 AM
Btw, a lot of these fights are on Youtube (where I saw the Fedor fight) and many of the most important parts are available as streaming videos on Reddit's MMA channel.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Grit, Toughness, Soul, & Spirit on December 31, 2015, 01:48:14 AM
https://youtu.be/vmDPdEd3n8M (https://youtu.be/vmDPdEd3n8M)

(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/4796418/carrey-gag-o.gif)
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on December 31, 2015, 01:54:56 AM
Mo fucking beasted on that dude in the final. Looking forward to him against the winner of Davis/McGeary.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on December 31, 2015, 03:39:14 AM
Wow. Garcia's striking make Ronda look like Ali.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Grit, Toughness, Soul, & Spirit on December 31, 2015, 03:50:57 AM
Wow. Garcia's striking make Ronda look like Ali.

The UG hyped her up like crazy and were saying she could beat any man. She almost got knocked out by The Barbarian's daughter. Are their any other women she can fight?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on December 31, 2015, 04:33:26 AM
RIP Howard Davis Jr. Passed away today from cancer.  :'(
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: HSJ on January 07, 2016, 05:51:54 AM
TSM favorite JoJo Calderwood is moving to Tri-Star. I think it will help her, especially since they recently picked up Randa Markos.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on January 07, 2016, 06:42:53 AM
I'm sure it will. It's gotta be a step up from Abderdeen Top Team or wherever the fuck she trains.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on January 07, 2016, 07:07:32 AM
I'm sure it will. It's gotta be a step up from Abderdeen Top Team or wherever the fuck she trains.

this made me laugh p. hard especially the abderdeen

Tristar will shore up her wrestling, that's for sure.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on January 07, 2016, 08:53:59 AM
Are any dawgs in this folder on twitter?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on January 07, 2016, 08:57:32 AM
not me but the 209 and others, why?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on January 07, 2016, 09:09:45 AM
I am. What's up?
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on January 07, 2016, 09:47:47 AM
Because I just joined. And yall my boys. Anywhk if anybody is interested PM me and I'll give my handle.
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: ViciousFish on January 07, 2016, 09:51:58 AM
@ViciousFish
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: Lord of The Curry on January 07, 2016, 11:55:28 AM
Dawggggg
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: The Art of Rasslin' on January 08, 2016, 12:32:50 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYPT6q7VAAAiW1F.png)
Title: Re: MMA General Discussion 2014
Post by: MikeofEvil on January 09, 2016, 09:19:30 AM
I don't like McGregor's schtick but the "We've all got to eat. And I eat well" made me laugh.