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Title: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Baby Shoes on January 25, 2019, 01:22:34 PM
Kickoff Show:

WWE Cruiserweight Championship
WWE Cruiserweight Champion Buddy Murphy vs. Akira Tozawa vs. Hideo Itami vs. Kalisto

WWE United States Championship
WWE United States Champion Rusev vs. 2018 Royal Rumble Winner Shinsuke Nakamura

ROYAL RUMBLE EVENT

WWE Universal Championship
WWE Universal Champion Brock Lesnar vs. Finn Balor

WWE Championship
WWE Champion Daniel Bryan vs. AJ Styles

WWE Smackdown Tag Team Championship
WWE Smackdown Tag Team Champions The Bar vs. Shane McMahon and The Miz

WWE Raw Women's Championship
WWE Raw Women's Champion Ronda Rousey vs. Sasha Banks

WWE Smackdown Women's Championship
WWE Smackdown Women's Champion Asuka vs. Becky Lynch

Men's Royal Rumble Match

Women's Royal Rumble Match

And here's some crunched stats to show you that Jimmy Uso is the favorite to win

(https://external-preview.redd.it/QPsmi7jNI7Rpj7C9UeXG2IjzvvFOqvn6CYUPCIsUoto.png?auto=webp&s=d01d47d788ca6f9985f5ae81b7ac4a0cbcb8902d)
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Saints_Fan_H on January 26, 2019, 11:45:09 PM
A few days ago I saw someone post a theory (and I don't believe he came up with it on his own) that Braun was going to cost Brock the title similar to the Goldberg/Brock feud in 04 and give Finn the Eddie treatment.

Some time passed and a few bloggers floated this. Whatculture didn't run the Braun version of events in a video but they think it could still go in The Demon's favor. With each passing hour I feel like the internet is working itself into an unrealistic frenzy that tonight is THE night that Brock drops it to someone and that Braun/Brock @ WM won't be a title match. One final theory was that Finn *almost* wins and gets a rematch next month and then he busts out "The Demon" for the victory.

I'm trying not to let myself get swept up in the hooplah but it makes sense if you think too much about it and fits into the 7 year wrestling rule.


EDIT:

And I just read TWIW thread for this ending week and well looks like you all have this covered. Move along nothing to see here.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Dandy on January 27, 2019, 01:00:27 AM
Jimmy USO is 6’3”, 251?
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Tino Standard on January 27, 2019, 01:44:22 AM
If WWE wants a Universal title match headlining WM, Brock is winning tonight and carrying the title to WM. If WWE is ready to pull the trigger on a women’s match headling WM, I could see Brock dropping the title so they can bolster the WM undercard more with a Universal title match AND a Brock-Braun special attraction type of match.

Side note: While Rollins seems like the obvious pick to win the Rumble, I feel like whoever is challenging for the World title at WM needs the shine of a Rumble win a lot more. Have a SD guy win the Rumble, eliminating Rollins last, and then figure out another mechanism to get Rollins into the Raw title picture at Elimination Chamber or Fastlane.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Baby Shoes on January 27, 2019, 01:48:27 AM
I agree that a Smackdown wrestler should win the Rumble.  It could set something up and be more unpredictable but RAW hasn’t won the Rumble since the brand split and WWE gets weird about that stuff.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: CookieMueller on January 27, 2019, 02:43:52 AM
Yes but assuming Bryan is champion at Mania, who from Smackdown could be that guy? The only person really getting a lot of love over there is Andrade and I think a heel vs heel match (especially these two particular heels) is not something they'd want to run at Mania. I guess Orton is always a possibility but ewww, no thank you. A debuting/returning guy winning and then choosing Bryan would be interesting. It would make a guy like Aleister Black.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Bladelock on January 27, 2019, 03:08:36 AM
I've been wanting Bryan vs Rey Mysterio. I think they had a tv match around 2012 or so, but Rey is so much better now and deserving of a big Wrestlemania match. Cena going for number 17 against Bryan would've been great as well, but that's not happening now.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: strummer on January 27, 2019, 05:37:24 AM
For Becky being on fire and to a certain extent Bryan there doesn't seem to be a lot of excitement for this show.  I guess the ticket sales reflect this.  I think Raw being so bad just killed whatever momentum the company has this time of year. No reason this shouldn't be a great show as it's rock sold on paper.

Can't see Brock losing. Seth or Drew win men's rumble (outside shot at Braun) and either Becky or Charlotte win women's rumble obvs.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: The Amazing Rando on January 27, 2019, 05:42:34 AM
All 29 men enter the Rumble with no eliminations and then Braun flips the ring and everybody falls out and he wins. Book it, Vince.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Epic for the Summer on January 27, 2019, 05:46:19 AM
Maybe they'll throw us a curveball and have Alexa win the Rumble.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Wrestlemania/Limp Bizkit WINNER on January 27, 2019, 05:59:54 AM

Kudos to WWE for announcing this as soon as they knew he wasn't cleared. :)
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Lord of The Curry on January 27, 2019, 08:54:49 AM
If anybody knows of a reliable "spot" to watch this I'd appreciate a PM. I genuinely would order the WWE Network if I could but in Canada you need to have a cable subscription unless there's another way to get the channel which I'd be open to.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Baby Shoes on January 27, 2019, 09:17:28 AM
Apparently they did a RAW tag title match as we were still waiting to be allowed in the building.  They had a special hoodie for the event and a Phoenix Elias shirt I picked up.  Not as close as Takeover but I’m pumped.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: cobainwasmurdered on January 27, 2019, 09:24:22 AM
it was a shitty match with glorious vs rezar/dawson and dawson ate the pin
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: cobainwasmurdered on January 27, 2019, 09:24:55 AM
nakamura vs rusev was good until the finish but nothing special. crowd is starting to warm up/fill in finally.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: fazzle on January 27, 2019, 09:25:17 AM
Wasn't a title match either, it was a match where if the heels won each team would have seperately gotten tag title shots at a later date.



Also, TIME FOR RUSEV TO CRUSH THE RUMBLE
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Baby Shoes on January 27, 2019, 09:27:28 AM
I was surprised because I thought one author was hurt.

No one hope for a pool spot because that area is basically tarped off, unlit and even further from the ring than I expected.

Probably tuning off of here til after the show but I will report anything interesting tonight or tomorrow - have fun, guys (and Cookie)
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Sabre on January 27, 2019, 09:44:15 AM
The guy dressed as hogan is scary accurate.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Brodypedia on January 27, 2019, 09:45:41 AM
If anybody knows of a reliable "spot" to watch this I'd appreciate a PM. I genuinely would order the WWE Network if I could but in Canada you need to have a cable subscription unless there's another way to get the channel which I'd be open to.
http://www.watchwrestle.com/watch-wwe-royal-rumble-2019-january-27th-2019-1-27-19/
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: cobainwasmurdered on January 27, 2019, 09:55:18 AM
205 match was a lot of fun. they really bring it when they get the spotlight
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Baby Shoes on January 27, 2019, 10:00:18 AM
Ok - chat guys - no jokes, I looked up and Bikini Beans Steven aka Fat MAC was taking a selfie like two rows in front of me

Must be destiny
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Baby Shoes on January 27, 2019, 10:07:42 AM
I think we made eye contact when he was dancing and doing air flute to Asuka’s theme
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Kotzenjunge on January 27, 2019, 10:10:00 AM
I have a reeeeeally good feeling about Becky/Asuka going first.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Sabre on January 27, 2019, 10:23:39 AM
It’s begging for lynch to do double duty and win it.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: KingPK on January 27, 2019, 10:26:46 AM
CATTLE MUTILATION (kinda) for the win!
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Nymyzys on January 27, 2019, 10:27:36 AM
Kinda Cattle Mutilation was a great finish!
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Sabre on January 27, 2019, 10:29:14 AM
I liked that match.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: KingPK on January 27, 2019, 10:33:27 AM
Since they are coming out of the dugout is it too much to ask to have the next number in the Rumbles stand off to the side of the stage swinging a practice dummy over a set of ropes or something?
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Sabre on January 27, 2019, 10:34:25 AM
That would be awesome. But will give away the fact omega isn’t gonna. E there.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: cobainwasmurdered on January 27, 2019, 10:52:17 AM
Ok - chat guys - no jokes, I looked up and Bikini Beans Steven aka Fat MAC was taking a selfie like two rows in front of me

Must be destiny

we're all marking out at this shoes. 909 says you're tied together like a force of nature. you should have given him a cxf card
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: cobainwasmurdered on January 27, 2019, 10:52:59 AM
also HOLY SHIT! SHOOTING SHANE PRESS! GREATEST OLD MAN WRESTLER EVER
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Thrasher on January 27, 2019, 10:57:56 AM
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JOB FACE ACTIVATED
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: KingPK on January 27, 2019, 11:14:51 AM
When did Pete Dunne grow out his hair and dye it purple?  And become black?

Somehow the match not being crisp kinda enhanced it.  Felt more like a fight.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Kotzenjunge on January 27, 2019, 11:16:35 AM
I feel like the crowd never believed Sasha was winning. Maybe it's my stream quality but that finishing counter sequence wasn't getting a rise out of them like it should have because it was damn good. Sasha stomping Rousey's hand reaching for the ropes was awesome.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Kotzenjunge on January 27, 2019, 11:17:43 AM
Sasha has the look on her face like Becky sorta, does she try to do double duty also?
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: no fact, no matter on January 27, 2019, 11:20:45 AM
Is there a stream with no commentary or with maybe another language? Cole and Graves are unbearable tonight.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Sabre on January 27, 2019, 11:21:04 AM
If the woman’s tags wernt happening at elim chamber I’d be booking Becky to win the rumble. Challenge Rhonda and have ufc horsewoman vs nxt horsewoman at elim chamber.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: no fact, no matter on January 27, 2019, 11:22:45 AM
Rusev has Wolverine trunks on.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: The Amazing Rando on January 27, 2019, 11:36:41 AM
Mickie James sort of channeling Tatanka = thumbs up
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: The Amazing Rando on January 27, 2019, 11:39:23 AM
It did used to be in the rules that you had to be in the ring before the next person. Though I think you could just immediately leave again which was what Lawler did I'm pretty sure.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Kotzenjunge on January 27, 2019, 12:12:52 PM
This is better than last year's by a mile.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: The Amazing Rando on January 27, 2019, 12:13:47 PM
Ha ha you think we're actually going to give Dana Brooke an elimination ha ha


Edit: Rhea Ripley just looks like the female version of Pete Dunne. I've never really seen her before.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: The Amazing Rando on January 27, 2019, 12:16:27 PM
Best use of Hornswoggle literally ever.

Edit: Fantastic pop for Bliss.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: The Amazing Rando on January 27, 2019, 12:26:58 PM
Finlay: Uhm... yeah sure fuck it...
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: KingPK on January 27, 2019, 12:38:57 PM
Its felt like this match has gone three years, but they've gotten to where they should be.  Now to do the right finish.

And they did.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: skullman80 on January 27, 2019, 12:39:03 PM
This is Becky's Steve Austin moment from WM 13.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: skullman80 on January 27, 2019, 12:40:04 PM
Except Becky wins lol.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: strummer on January 27, 2019, 12:41:48 PM
Well hell yeah they did the right finish.  They actually learned from their mistake in 2014
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: The Amazing Rando on January 27, 2019, 12:44:00 PM
This next two months of Becky and Charlotte bitching at each other and Sasha running her mouth about the 4 Horsewomen while her and Bayley inch toward the tag titles will be fun. But somehow all four of them will end up on Raw so hooray.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Kotzenjunge on January 27, 2019, 12:44:11 PM
THEY DID THE RIGHT THING HELL YEAH
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: The Amazing Rando on January 27, 2019, 12:46:49 PM
That match did feel like it went forever but it did what it needed to do. Too many girls wearing nearly the same red outfits though. And too many people doing the "I wasn't actually eliminated let me walk on my hands" spot.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Kotzenjunge on January 27, 2019, 12:49:03 PM
I don't think I've marked that hard since Dean's MITB cash-in.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: fazzle on January 27, 2019, 12:51:57 PM
That women's rumble was FAR superior to last year's.  I really appreciated how they used the surprise spots to hype the future, rather than reminisce about the past.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: skullman80 on January 27, 2019, 12:54:27 PM
Daniel Bryan got people to not cheer him. It's amazing. Reinvented himself.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Brodypedia on January 27, 2019, 12:58:14 PM
So is the crowd dead or just poorly mic'd?  Crowd heat is just flat tonight.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: fazzle on January 27, 2019, 01:02:35 PM
I'm guessing poorly mic'd.   At one point Rousey was talking shit to the fans for chanting You Can't Wrestle, but I never heard the chant itself.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: KingPK on January 27, 2019, 01:18:27 PM
Rowan has an affinity for bearded crazy people.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: skullman80 on January 27, 2019, 01:18:42 PM
That was lame.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Tino Standard on January 27, 2019, 01:19:09 PM
That was awful and about 10 minutes longer than it needed to be. Woof.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Thrasher on January 27, 2019, 01:19:19 PM
So is the crowd dead or just poorly mic'd?  Crowd heat is just flat tonight.

I think the Rumble killed the show. It should have been 30 minutes instead an hour plus.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Kotzenjunge on January 27, 2019, 01:20:38 PM
Well, the good feelings about tonight's booking could only last so long.

Okay, it looks like Rowan is going to be Bryan's own Diesel bodyguard.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: fazzle on January 27, 2019, 01:20:49 PM
Do we REALLY need another Erick Rowan push?   He is literally the most useless member of the roster.  I have no idea why they keep trying with him.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: strummer on January 27, 2019, 01:23:02 PM
Bryan reuniting with his former .Wyatt family mate
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: strummer on January 27, 2019, 01:27:11 PM
I doubt it happens but I hope this doesn't affect Bryan's push with the vultures coming out and saying "see he's really not over". I mean 5 years ago that would be a definite but I think he's pretty safe now
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: KingPK on January 27, 2019, 01:39:53 PM
Great booking to this match so far.  Motivated Brock is good Brock.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: no fact, no matter on January 27, 2019, 01:41:06 PM
L O L
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Kotzenjunge on January 27, 2019, 01:44:03 PM
Hooray, can't wait to see the Champion again sometime in March!
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: fazzle on January 27, 2019, 01:44:11 PM
Great showing for Finn, but if he just goes back to facing Corbin again tomorrow on Raw, it's all meaningless.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on January 27, 2019, 01:47:23 PM
So is the crowd dead or just poorly mic'd?  Crowd heat is just flat tonight.

I think the Rumble killed the show. It should have been 30 minutes instead an hour plus.

Man, if everyone on this forum didn't already think you were a fucking moron they definitely do now.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: cobainwasmurdered on January 27, 2019, 01:48:04 PM
brock gave balor a ton and the ending made it feel like the dude in the weekly thread might get his wish for Demon Balor.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: no fact, no matter on January 27, 2019, 01:51:05 PM
lol at the digs @ Brock on Twitter for being a part time champ you never see for months. Brock is doing what he's paid to do. Blame Vince for paying him.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: fazzle on January 27, 2019, 01:53:37 PM
I wonder if JJ stopped to sell Vince some gold before he made his way to the ring.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Ut Ot on January 27, 2019, 01:54:44 PM
That women's rumble was FAR superior to last year's.  I really appreciated how they used the surprise spots to hype the future, rather than reminisce about the past.
Strong agree. Not that I didn't appreciate the nostalgia pops last year, but there's diminishing returns on going back to that well, especially considering the much shallower pool of available women's legends, relatively speaking.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: muzzington on January 27, 2019, 01:58:06 PM
Fun beginning.

Don't miss King's ancient references.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on January 27, 2019, 01:59:46 PM
I liked Balor/Brock better than Bryan/Styles.  That was something I wasn't expecting.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: KingPK on January 27, 2019, 02:05:56 PM
JOHNNY RUMBLE!  NXT all over this bitch so far.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Kotzenjunge on January 27, 2019, 02:21:44 PM
About halfway through and I'm not feeling the Men's Rumble. They've put a lot of big names really early and it isn't working.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: KingPK on January 27, 2019, 02:41:37 PM
I'd say that I wish the women's Rumble main evented but I want to get to sleep sometime tonight.  LOL at Lashley.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: fisticuffs on January 27, 2019, 02:49:08 PM
When I saw Nia I thought that was clearing the path for Roman to claim the 30th spot. Then she started walking to the ring and I switched my thinking to how stupid this is.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: strummer on January 27, 2019, 02:55:27 PM
So I guess men on women violence is allowed now?  When did this happen???
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: NYU on January 27, 2019, 02:58:07 PM
I’m really not looking forward to seeing this “male on female” violence topic debated over the next few days in the sports media. I can see the fake-outraged politically correct stances already.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: cobainwasmurdered on January 27, 2019, 02:58:25 PM
that nia shit saved what was a not really good men's rumble. The show overall was really good. AJ/Bryan was probably the worst match on the show which is shocking.


The idea of making the women's rumble 30 minutes is INSANE.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: KingPK on January 27, 2019, 03:01:07 PM
I think I liked that show.  It definitely felt five hours long but I can't think of many ways they could have trimmed it because the Rumbles were going about 2 1/2 hours total on their own (and they definitely rushed the men's Rumble).  Love that both used NXT to their advantage instead of just rolling out old timers to fill slots.

I thought Nia's spot was cool.  Becky did it (kinda), so why not?
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Dave Meltzer on January 27, 2019, 03:04:15 PM
The idea of making the women's rumble 30 minutes is INSANE.

No it's not.  Women are the inferior sex, and allowing them the same amount of time in a man's ring is what's insane.

It was also insane to allow Nia Snax in the men's rumble.  Just because she's bigger than most of the men, doesn't mean she should be allowed in the ring with them.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on January 27, 2019, 03:10:52 PM
Men's Rumble was bad for a Rumble and AJ-Bryan was bad. I liked everything else. Oddly enough the Nia spot was the only thing keeping me from turning off the men's Rumble.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Tino Standard on January 27, 2019, 03:30:59 PM
I have absolutely no idea who Bryan faces at WM. The AJ feud is running on fumes, and no one from SD was involved in the Rumble finish to get themselves into the title picture.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: fazzle on January 27, 2019, 03:49:55 PM
In a similar vein, I have no clue who Asuka faces at Mania either.  The SD side of Mania is completely up in the air, with only Miz vs Shane seeming like a lock.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Kotzenjunge on January 27, 2019, 03:53:59 PM
I honestly left my place for a while near the end of the men's Rumble, figuring I'd be able to see the highlights of Rollins winning on YouTube once I got back. I made the right call. Turning off a damn Rumble match as it's happening before all 30 people come out is something which would be unfathomable just this afternoon. Rollins felt like such a foregone conclusion to me (with McIntyre as my alternate) that I couldn't care. Hopefully he gets his coronation as THE guy at Wrestlemania.

At this point I can't help but feel like the women are booked and more enjoyable to watch in action than the men in WWE. The show was a tale of two halves. The women dominated the first half and the whole second half of the show wasn't nearly as entertaining, sensical, or put together. Maybe I'm just that happy that Becky got the big win in super underdog babyface fashion.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Kotzenjunge on January 27, 2019, 03:57:37 PM
Big positive about this show though: It felt unique thanks to the entranceway and wrestlers coming out of the dugout. Are they saving pyro exclusively for Wrestlemania these days? Figure a big stadium show like this would have had at least some here and there.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: cobainwasmurdered on January 27, 2019, 04:09:24 PM
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brock is god
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Saints_Fan_H on January 27, 2019, 05:10:49 PM
Nia really fucked up when she gave that (accidental) concussion to Becky (due to carelessness) but I feel like she earned some goodwill tonight. Twitter posts seem to be mostly positive with a few obvious trolls.

And I'd imagine she had a blast doing it anyway. From the 24 special I really got the vibe she's very happy to be there.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: pujoljunkie on January 27, 2019, 05:29:38 PM
I have absolutely no idea who Bryan faces at WM. The AJ feud is running on fumes, and no one from SD was involved in the Rumble finish to get themselves into the title picture.

I wouldn't rule out Bryan facing Seth Rollins. If a women's match main events, you can do Bryan/Rollins and Brock/Demon Balor
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Epic for the Summer on January 28, 2019, 02:07:20 AM
They have two PPVs before WM so they have plenty of time to figure it out.

I enjoyed the Rumble overall although it was really fucking long. I missed the first half hour so I went back and watched the whole thing from the start and it didn't end until after midnight. Yikes.

Nia's appearance in the men's Rumble was odd. Like, I'm not offended by it or anything and I did expect Truth to get jumped but it seems strange they'd give the spot to her. Nonetheless, her role was great and I'm sure she built up some goodwill with the company by taking that offense. LOL to anyone who thought she was being cut after the Becky incident.

Also LOL to anyone who thought Finn was going over. This was a typical Brock match where Brock takes a ton of offense, shakes it off, F-5, win (though in this case, it was the Kamura lock). Brock is keeping the title until Mania (and I wouldn't be shocked if he retains there either).

What kayfabe authority does Finlay have for allowing Becky to compete in the Rumble? I can understand why having Shane out there wouldn't have made sense considering he had competed in a match but couldn't they just have Stephanie out there giving Becky her blessing?

I thought they overdid the "save" spot. They used it for Naomi (who was my favorite, honestly), Kacy, and Kofi.

Looks like Ziggler worked us about the hiatus thing. Also, I guess the Maria thing wasn't true either? She had a decent showing in the Rumble. If she got chucked right away, I'd say there were truth to the rumors but that wasn't the case.

Also side note: I feel like Alicia Fox doesn't get enough love. She plays her character perfectly and is just fine in the ring.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Spaceman Spiff 🚀 on January 28, 2019, 02:25:30 AM
It always boggles my mind how Rumble entrants work from a kayfabe standpoint.  You can just announce yourself as entering the Rumble, and you are in?  Why doesn't everyone do that?  How does Curt Hawkins, a guy whose entire gimmick is "has not won a match since his return to the company", qualify to get in the Rumble?  And if you can take a guy's spot by attacking him & getting into the ring before he does, why isn't everyone else on the roster lining the aisle waiting to jump someone in order to usurp their spot?  A guaranteed world title shot at the biggest show of the year, so why aren't more guys taking advantage of this apparent loophole?
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: no fact, no matter on January 28, 2019, 02:29:01 AM
It always boggles my mind how Rumble entrants work from a kayfabe standpoint.  You can just announce yourself as entering the Rumble, and you are in?  Why doesn't everyone do that?  How does Curt Hawkins, a guy whose entire gimmick is "has not won a match since his return to the company", qualify to get in the Rumble?  And if you can take a guy's spot by attacking him & getting into the ring before he does, why isn't everyone else on the roster lining the aisle waiting to jump someone in order to usurp their spot?  A guaranteed world title shot at the biggest show of the year, so why aren't more guys taking advantage of this apparent loophole?
WWE booking is a lot like time travel tv show plots. It's best not to think about it.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: no fact, no matter on January 28, 2019, 02:29:55 AM
Also, Kacy was my favourite "both feet have to touch the floor" Rumble save, but agree that they definitely overdid it. It's dumb that it has to happen in BOTH rumbles now. Just give the gimmick to one person and let them run with it.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Epic for the Summer on January 28, 2019, 02:36:28 AM
They ran a lot of the same spots in both Rumbles. Other than the save spot, they also did the "hiding under the ring" spot (Zelina, Hawkins) and the "entrant can't compete, here's comes a new entrant" spot (Lana, Truth).

Speaking of Zelina, goddamn that Vega from SF cosplay was awesome.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: no fact, no matter on January 28, 2019, 02:38:02 AM
Seriously. I was hoping she'd do a backflip and yodel, though.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on January 28, 2019, 03:48:18 AM
I have absolutely no idea who Bryan faces at WM. The AJ feud is running on fumes, and no one from SD was involved in the Rumble finish to get themselves into the title picture.

I wouldn't rule out Bryan facing Seth Rollins. If a women's match main events, you can do Bryan/Rollins and Brock/Demon Balor

It would make Seth look like a coward who is ducking Brock...which means they will probably do it.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Ut Ot on January 28, 2019, 03:57:01 AM
Seriously. I was hoping she'd do a backflip and yodel, though.

Well, damn. Now, I want to see Zelina Vega in a cage match.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on January 28, 2019, 04:20:28 AM
After a night of sleep...I like that Nia spot even more than I did last night. A delusional monster female heel has to be of the mind to think they can beat up men too. WWE is also usually extremely predictable but that was not.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Hawk 34 on January 28, 2019, 05:27:25 AM
Like we said in chat, Nia winning the rumble to challenge Bryan would been far more fascinating than the idea of Seth.  Seeing how Bryan, the ultra progressive vegan extremist would have worked his character around Nia would have been immensely entertaining.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: HSJ on January 28, 2019, 05:41:27 AM
Fantasy booking from my end, I would of had Becky taken R-Truths spot instead of Lana’s ...and win. I can only imagine the pop from the crowd and how the media would be reacting today if The Man Becky Lynch won the Men’s Royal Rumble.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: no fact, no matter on January 28, 2019, 05:57:18 AM
Actually that would've been amazing to see the mouth-breather backlash from having two female rumble winners.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Firmino of the 909 on January 28, 2019, 06:01:04 AM
WWE is eventually going to transition towards having intergender matches where there's no punching. Would bet everything on it.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: no fact, no matter on January 28, 2019, 06:10:04 AM
Honestly, I'm fine with that and totally agree with no punching.. I actually would like to see less "punching" in wrestling overall, tbh.. it just never looks real enough and it seems like unnecessary filler..

As far as inter-gender goes.. I'm all for it, especially if it's a division or something like the MMC. We need to get past this idea that men and women doing anything remotely physical together in a fake combat sport context is either a) abusive or b) sexual. The more this is about "competition" and athleticism the better.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Harley Quinn on January 28, 2019, 06:26:56 AM
One thing I also liked about the Nia spot is that she entered the ring knowing there were smaller wrestlers she could physically man handle. A subtle 'heel' tactic of the bigger bully beating up on the smaller weaker types and Nia looked good as a result. It's not like she was entering with Rollins or Strowman types around her.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Cool, Bad, & Handsome on January 28, 2019, 08:30:32 AM
Only thing I didn't like about it was Ali getting dumped out by Nia after he eliminated Joe and Nakamura since they're really trying to get him over after he pinned Bryan clean in a tag match... but it's not like WWE would use that as a rub for anything substantial in the future. It's all about just having moments and shit and everything about that worked.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on January 28, 2019, 10:48:11 AM
That didn't bug me because I thought it was pretty clear that Ali was done in because he refused to fight her (unlike Orton).
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Brodypedia on January 28, 2019, 11:01:57 PM
Big Davey Meltz says Kurt Angle replaced Zack Ryder. They didn't bother to rebook his role and just made him a body, not a special entry.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Super Leather on January 29, 2019, 08:17:11 AM
I enjoyed the women's Rumble more than the men's, despite the flaws - a clunky first half, bad timing on entries/eliminations, and terrible camera work. Becky crashing the party and winning was what we all wanted and WWE actually gave that to us. Finlay giving her the go-ahead to get in there was a cool little thing to me. There is the Irish conspiracy theory (heh), but don't forget that Finlay used to train the women wrestlers during the Divas era. Does he still work with them on their matches?

Becky/Asuka and Ronda/Sasha were both very good and I really like how the women display more of a sense of struggle and fighting in their matches.

Brock/Finn was real good and I liked the finish. I do wish that Finn had gotten within a hair's length of the ropes before tapping just as a storytelling device for a sympathetic babyface. Although I knew Brock was winning, I do like how his matches against smaller wrestlers have that one moment where you *almost* think it could go the other way. That leads me to...

Seth Rollins winning the men's Rumble wasn't what I wanted, but he'll have a better match with Brock than Braun. Brock just isn't going to work with Braun the way we'd like him to and it's too bad. I wanted Braun to win...or a Smackdown guy, but not entirely sure who. Nia beating the crap out of R-Truth to steal his #30 spot had me cracking up, but I'm not really sure how I feel about her subsequent beatdown and elimination. I liked the guys selling for her. I feel like everyone involved tried conveying a sense of "I'm REALLY not comfortable with this, but don't know what else to do here," but commentary did nothing to get that across. Wondering if this is leading to anything.

Some of the save spots in the women's Rumble were very creative, but there were too many of them taking place in both bouts. Kofi was particularly bad with his saves, although the one with Xavier did lead to Drew Mac's awesome look of pure disgust.

I personally thought Bryan and AJ had a very good match until I remembered that they were wrestling in front of a stadium crowd. Their match would have gotten over better in an arena setting IMO. This crowd wanted to see them turn up the volume and start kicking the shit out of each other instead. Crappy finish that was from a different era; it felt strange in 2019. Would this the first time Bryan has done "I have until five" in WWE?

No real opinion on the show overall; I guess I would be in the "it was what it was" camp. I was in the mood to binge out on some wrestling at the moment, so I'm good.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on January 29, 2019, 08:39:04 AM
I actually really liked the Women's Rumble and thought it was considerably better than the Men's one.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Baby Shoes on January 29, 2019, 02:21:10 PM
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Gert on January 29, 2019, 06:45:35 PM
So I watched this show live from beginning to end (which I rarely do, but I was watching with a friend) so I think I may view it differently than usual.

I do agree that the Women's match was better. I also agree as a whole the "close call" spots as well as "both wrestlers on the apron spot leading to eliminations" are too predictable. I'm sure 20 years ago we thought there were too many obvious clothesline/back drop elimination spots, but I feel like the close calls spots are becoming too over the top.

Here is another thought I have on the Rumbles in the future. And maybe it is a dumb take but I think based on the current formats (4 World Title Matches, 2 Rumbles plus one other this year Tag Titles) is would they ever consider doing both Rumbles back to back? I see the arguments of it being 2 matches covering a 2 1/2 hour period killing the crowd. That said, the Rumble matches have so many comedy and crowd participation spots I think they crowd could handle it.

Feel like they could start with a combo of Men's-Women's Title Match, then 2 Rumbles, tag title match and then close out with the other two tag title matches.

I think with having two titles in each division you will most likely have at least one dominant and non-transition champion defending the title so their will be marquee matches.

I think AJ-Bryan suffered from card fatigue, AJ being a face versus Bryan and being in a stadium show as others suggested.

Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Saints_Fan_H on January 29, 2019, 07:11:02 PM
I know it's not a "real" sport, but FFS someone landing on their back should be an elimination the same way you're "down" in football. They really pushed the limits of "both feet touching the floor" this year.

While the schemes to get back into the ring were cool, some of it felt cheap. I thought Kofi with one foot on the pancakes last year was pushing it. There should at least be some sort of physical barrier between your body and the floor for it to count.

Again, I know I'm bitching over scripted material, but damn.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Epic for the Summer on January 30, 2019, 01:09:02 AM
That's why I liked Naomi's "close call" the best. It felt more natural how she wound up on the guardrail and she had the entire crowd invested in her whole sequence leading up to her save. With Kacy, it was like splitting hairs with her back hitting the floor while she kept her feet up.

I personally thought Kofi's Rumble saves peaked in 2015 when Adam Rose's Rosebuds saved him from elimination. They've gotten really silly with them since then.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Tino Standard on January 30, 2019, 02:50:32 AM
Personally, I feel like if you lose all contact with the ring, you should be out of the match, but that genie’s out of the bottle at this point. I can live with one cute spot here or there, but I agree that the contrived non-eliminations were out of control this year.

Honestly, as long as we keep having two Rumbles every year, it’s only going to get worse. This is a problem with all of the PPV gimmick matches. I’m all for the women getting their own, but I’d rather see only one on a show, even if it means the men don’t get an Elimination Chamber or a HIAC match some years.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on January 30, 2019, 03:25:24 AM
I'd rather they keep the Rumble matches and scrap everything else.  This would not only shorten the shows to a bearable length, but boost the star power of the Rumble matches which are the main drawing point of these shows.  Did we really need Miz & Shane vs. The Bar, Roode & Gable vs. Rezar & Dawson, and Nakamura vs. Rusev on this card?

Anyways, with the way the Network works if I get tired partway through I can always turn it off and watch the rest tomorrow, so at least part of it is my own doing.  I'll admit that.  I'd actually have less issue if they didn't end so late.  I could handle it better if it started earlier in the afternoon and didn't end around midnight.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Bladelock on January 30, 2019, 03:39:40 AM
I remember reading rumors that they were interested in making Wrestlemania a 2 night event. They should do that with The Rumble and have each Rumble as the main event of the night. It was a really good show, but the pace was glacial and a match like Bryan vs AJ would probably be better on a shorter show. Knowing WWE right now, they'd make both shows 6 hours long though.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Kahran Ramsus on January 30, 2019, 03:47:41 AM
I remember reading rumors that they were interested in making Wrestlemania a 2 night event. They should do that with The Rumble and have each Rumble as the main event of the night. It was a really good show, but the pace was glacial and a match like Bryan vs AJ would probably be better on a shorter show. Knowing WWE right now, they'd make both shows 6 hours long though.

I'd definitely be for that.  Do Takeover on Friday, one Rumble on Saturday, and the other on Sunday.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Epic for the Summer on January 30, 2019, 03:52:58 AM
I don't know how that's going to work because to everybody, the Sunday show will always be seen as the "true" premiere event so we're just going to wind up with a bunch of salty fans who complain that their favorite matches and wrestlers were relegated to the lesser (Saturday) show. Look at how shook people get when things are bumped to the pre-shows.

NJPW is experimenting with this next year for Wrestlekingdom but they haven't built up the legacy with that event in the states the way the Rumble and Mania already have.

For me personally, I wouldn't mind it. More wrestling for us without having to sit there for 6 hours.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Hawk 34 on January 30, 2019, 06:35:07 AM
Both shows would just end up being six hours anyways
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: alkeiper on February 01, 2019, 02:24:59 AM
WWE really should consider doing an intermission. The next match after a 70 minute Rumble is going to die no matter who is involved.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: Baby Shoes on February 01, 2019, 02:34:48 AM
I never really wrote up a recap of my experience but the group I went to the Rumble with were talking about how tired we were following the women’s Rumble and realizing there were still multiple major matches to go.

Had never been to one of these marathon shows yet so we were talking before about figuring out bathroom breaks.  In the lull before the women’s Rumble, I decided to run and due to lines being so long, I managed to get back during Nattie’s entrance.  I could hear Lacey’s music from the bathroom sink but couldn’t understand the promo from the concourse.

My buddy trying running to the bathroom during the AJ-Bryan video package and by the time he realized how much he missed waiting for the bathroom and how quiet the crowd had been, he stopped for a drink and missed more.
Title: Re: WWE Royal Rumble 2019
Post by: RedJed on February 01, 2019, 03:13:15 AM
Might as well throw my two cents in on the live Rumble experience since I'm just about to (finally after two days of flight cancellations to Minneapolis) fly out of Phoenix soon here.

We were a bit salty at the layout of the show in Chase Field. We paid $250 for what we thought was a close seat but it was anything but that. We were a few row up dead center behind home plate and how it was laid out...we were essentially 50 rows back from the ring if not more. Made for a frustrating experience when you shell out that much $$$ for a ticket. Seats like that should be less than floor ones. The entrance view was nonexistent to us but we did get a peek at talent coming up outta the dugout.

I found myself burned out after the women's Rumble and an intermission of even 15 minutes at that point would have been great. They should seriously consider this for future Manias and Rumbles given how the response to Bryan and Styles was.

On the flip side we were happy WWE created the ability to get the exact same seats for NXT, Raw, and SD. They were relatively affordable and all near the ring in lower level. This was a first I can recall that NXT was by far a better attended event than either main show.

Had an extra perk for SD as a friend of mine had a handful of second row ringside comps so was able to head down there and get a collective SD chair with the date n location on it. Shipping it back was costly but still....awesome extra for the last show.

There wasn't much for indy shows around the weekend but there was a few. I had seen some ads for a Friday tournament (I peeped Axxess that night instead) as well as a 10am Sunday morning show with Willie Mack headlining though. After Takeover on Saturday we did go to one indy however and it was probably the most low rent and so bad it was good show I've been to in at least a decade. Headlined by Joey Ryan it was titled "Money in the Stank" and was in the back parking lot of a dive bar. The ring announcer was a drunk/high version of Tod Sinclair it seemed like. Felt like the majority of the talent perhaps were the bar staff as it was just horrendously awful. Some gimmicks were indyriffic as it gets so it was entertaining enough.