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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #50 on: February 03, 2018, 11:57:34 AM »
They've officially released the information on their streaming service.

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Ringside Members will automatically become an HonorClub member until their subscription expires. At that time, previous members can decide how they would like to proceed with their HonorClub membership.  The various plans will include both monthly and annual options for the Standard Membership. Fans can choose whether they would like to pay $9.99 per month or a discounted $99.99 for the entire year. However, for the ultimate Ring of Honor experience, fans will have the option to purchase an Annual VIP membership for just $119.99. This package includes all of the wonderful features of the Standard Membership, but it also gives you free access to all ROH Pay Per Views!

They're working on a Fire Stick and Roku app now. Their PPVs are usually $34.99, so if you're getting all of them at $120, that's not a bad deal.
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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #51 on: February 03, 2018, 12:33:56 PM »
I only watched ROH for a stretch circa 2009-2010 when oddly enough it was all the guys who are big now (Rollins, Owens, Zayn, Cesaro, Omega, Bucks).  I'd think about doing this for $120 for the year and getting full access.
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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #52 on: February 03, 2018, 12:56:32 PM »
I'm so sorry. Peace be with you.
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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #53 on: February 04, 2018, 04:07:34 AM »
If they get it on the roku, I’ll get it.


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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #54 on: February 09, 2018, 01:32:27 PM »
Emma/Tenille Dashwood is now in ROH and is in the WOH tourney. 😍
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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #55 on: February 09, 2018, 01:45:45 PM »
She debuted at tonight's show live on Fite, Facebook Live, and the ROH website. They were testing their new streaming service and used tonight live show to do so for free. It was a really solid show headlined by the Bucks vs Best Friends is a great match. Best Friends started to play the heels about halfway through and it was a lot of fun. Matt was still selling the back from the last NJPW show.
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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #56 on: February 09, 2018, 03:06:52 PM »
Best Friends put on sunglasses and turned into dicks in real life. They even did an adominal stretch and passed a lit cigarette back and forth.
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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #57 on: February 09, 2018, 03:19:12 PM »
Have they busted out the trench coat spot recently?

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #58 on: February 10, 2018, 11:52:50 AM »
Have they busted out the trench coat spot recently?

Not recently, unfortunately.
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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #59 on: February 11, 2018, 02:12:04 AM »
Speaking of the ROH/NJPW partnership, I bought tickets to ROH/NJPW War of the Worlds in Lowell in May. And here's a sign of how much New Japan (and I guess maybe ROH but not really, mostly NJPW) has exploded in the last few years. Last time my friend went he got a 3rd row ticket for $40. This time, it's $60 a ticket for balcony.

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #60 on: March 10, 2018, 03:12:11 PM »
No one talking about last night's show.  That fucking mark Austin Aries showed up with four titles announcing his plans to take a fifth.  Seems he will because he wants the TV title so don't see World Champ of another promotion coming in to job to Kenny King.

Then Kenny Omega shows up under the bear head.

Curious about Scurll getting the main event spot at Supercard of Honor at Wrestlemania weekend.
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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #61 on: March 11, 2018, 05:06:16 AM »
Supercard of Honor card, placed in Spoiler tags as some plays out from last night's tapings that have yet to air

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Battle of the Bullet Club: Cody vs Kenny Omega

ROH World Championship Match: Dalton Castle vs Marty Scurll

ROH Television Championship - Last Man Standing Match: Kenny King vs Silas Young

ROH 6 Man Championship - Ladder Match: Flip Gordon and The Young Bucks v SoCal Uncensored

Tomohiro Ishii v Punishment Martinez

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #62 on: March 11, 2018, 05:19:56 AM »
I'm so glad I have tickets.
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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #63 on: March 11, 2018, 05:20:52 AM »
Yeah, I thought you were going to that Dama.  Look forward to hearing about your experience when you get back.  Looks like a fairly solid card.
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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #64 on: March 14, 2018, 01:16:17 PM »
Punishment Martinez kind of stinks tbh.

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #65 on: March 14, 2018, 02:22:58 PM »
There's not a single match on that card I'd pay to see.

Seconding Kamala's assessment. He makes QT Marshall and the Mike Mondo push seem reasonable.

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #66 on: March 14, 2018, 04:30:34 PM »
Punishment Martinez kind of stinks tbh.

Yeah, I've never been impressed with what I've seen from him. It's like someone combined the worst elements of Gangrel and Roman Reigns.

Silas Young isn't great either. Good gimmick that he plays very well, but my interest dies as soon as he wrestles.

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #67 on: March 14, 2018, 11:13:18 PM »
holy shit what a waste of ibushi.

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #68 on: March 14, 2018, 11:19:50 PM »
I actually like Punishment Martinez. I'm generally entertained by him. He's what Baron Corbin should be. (i'm sure someone is about to jump in and tell me how Corbin is better than Martinez. save it. I already disagree)

I saw a cell phone video of a Kenny/Cody pull-apart where Kenny told Cody that when Brandi kissed him it wasn't the first time. That was pretty good.

The only (and I mean only) match on that card I am not looking forward to is King vs. Young. Everything else has me hyped and so glad I ponied up the dough early for this.
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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #69 on: March 15, 2018, 02:48:35 AM »
lol Corbin is so much better than Punishment.


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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #70 on: March 15, 2018, 02:56:05 AM »
Corbin at least doesn't have a stupid vampire look.

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #71 on: March 15, 2018, 05:25:07 AM »
Punishment Martinez is one of the silliest looking guys in a "big" company to me. I'm glad dama is looking forward to it but yeah nothing here looks interesting to me at all.

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #72 on: March 15, 2018, 05:26:08 AM »
But workrate wise.....who really IS the better worker? Think about it. I'd argue that Martinez is actually a step above Corbin in the workrate department. He sure is much more versatile and can perform highspots so much more cohesively than Corbin. In fact has Corbin even tried a top rope spot at all?

I still am kind of scratching my head at all of the ROH hate here. I thought, comparatively if we look back from Anniversary show to the next one, this past year ROH really stepped up some of the work and every pay per view had a really strong mid to upper card. They didn't have to hang the work on the NJPW involvement either this past year. The weekly TV is also head and shoulders much better than I recall it being possibly ever. I have also dug the balance of incorporating better storylines into the fold too, which is one area ROH rarely succeeds with.

But I'll admit I'm a fan of ROH and always have been just simply because the workrate is appreciated and focused upon more here than any of the other main U.S. companies, except of course PWG. That's never changed since it's inception really.

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #73 on: March 15, 2018, 05:30:17 AM »
I don't want my big dudes all trying top rope spots though. Corbin isn't very good but he's had a number of good matches and he sticks to what he knows.

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #74 on: March 15, 2018, 05:54:59 AM »
The lack of ROH praise is a byproduct of us remembering when they were blatantly the best company in the country. Then Gabe burned out, Pearce flopped, Corny nearly killed the territory, and the best talents went to WWE under Delirious. It's not so much the product is bad as much as it is lame compared to what it was.

That and Punishment Martinez is awful.

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #75 on: March 15, 2018, 06:00:24 AM »
Their talent are also the worst part of the company I actually like usually. I don't need to see Hangman Page shitting up NJPW every show. I wish the company well but they haven't made a product I enjoy or am interested in since Gabe decided to do his botched version of Dragon Gate's Faction Warfare.

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« Reply #76 on: March 15, 2018, 06:06:37 AM »
I don't know who Punishment Martinez is but even his name sounds low rent.  But I was trying to save it.
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« Reply #77 on: March 15, 2018, 07:55:17 AM »
lol Corbin is so much better than Punishment.


100% disagree.

Corbin makes me want to turn my TV off and do something else. Usually I'm entertained by Punishment Martinez's matches.

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« Reply #78 on: March 15, 2018, 08:03:42 AM »
Punishment Martinez is one of the silliest looking guys in a "big" company to me. I'm glad dama is looking forward to it but yeah nothing here looks interesting to me at all.

How is Kenny/Cody not interesting to you? Have you been watching NJPW or Being The Elite?
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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #79 on: March 15, 2018, 08:41:31 AM »
Because Cody is an average worker and Omega is extremely overrated. They're both cartoonish oversellers on their own and I can't imagine them in a match together. Omega is a good wrestler but he's been hyped up to a ridiculous degree by Meltzer and co. I wouldn't put him in the top 5 of NJPW much less the top 5 of the World which is the way he's sold by Dave.

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« Reply #80 on: March 15, 2018, 08:59:26 AM »
Punishment Martinez has a cool look and that's about it. He seems really agile for a big man until you realize he's a klutz. Corbin's still relatively new to wrestling so there's a chance he could get better. And I think even as is, he's probably better than Punishment. Punishment's been on the indies forever. You can find him in the old NWA On Fire Live Blogs (RIP). It's funny to me to see ROH hype him as some dominant newcomer.

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #81 on: March 15, 2018, 09:02:11 AM »
That being said Cody Vs Omega is a great angle and is gonna be a good if not great match for sure. I think Cody Rhodes is really starting to put it together these last few months. Anyone who doesn't like this is a goth or Jim Cornette.

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« Reply #82 on: March 15, 2018, 10:11:16 AM »
Cody is the best heel in the business currently and I've honestly never seen a Kenny match I didn't love. I don't think Meltzer overrates him. My own eyes tell me he's entertaining me. I guess I'm just at my usual disagreement with board consensus.

And I guess we have a difference of opinion on Punishment Martinez. I've never been entertained by Baron Corbin save his match with Austin Aries. I'm consistently entertained by Martinez.
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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #83 on: March 15, 2018, 10:30:02 AM »
He gave Omega matches more than 5 stars so I definitely think he overrates him. The first Okada/Omega match was really great the first time you watch it but it doesn't hold up nearly as well on rewatches. Okada has had way better matches against other opponents. Omega is probably the worst of the"move-spam style" main eventers. That style can be very entertaining especially live when you don't know the finish but I don't think it holds up and it leads to overkill.

And yeah I for sure don't agree with the idea Cody is the best heel in the business. Miz is the best guy at getting real heat, Elias is tremendous, Jericho should count since it's only been 2 months since he worked. Jericho got heel heat in NJPW where Cody barely gets any reaction at all. The fans there cared more about his wife.

It's great that people like different things and there is a wide variety out there.

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #84 on: March 15, 2018, 10:35:23 AM »
I've watched Okada vs Omega part II 3x and it's entertaining every time I do.

I just can't agree on Miz. I actually have to want to see someone have a match for their heel act to work. Same with Elias.
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« Reply #85 on: March 15, 2018, 10:44:32 AM »
Cody Rhodes is the reason I don't watch ROH, so yeah. People here have massively different opinions.


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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #86 on: March 15, 2018, 11:13:50 AM »
Corbin is carryable and he can look good (or at least competent) with a good opponent.

I like Cody's act enough.  It really straddles the line of comic book villain sometimes, but I think that's intentional.  If he wasn't part of a hot group like Bullet Club with good talent around him it's probably fall flat, but you can say that about a lot of people.

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #87 on: March 15, 2018, 11:35:52 AM »
Punishment I go back and forth on from time to time. I hated him at first, but then he had a couple of decent matches and I warmed up to him. Then he would have a bunch of shit matches and I remembered why he was awful. Just watch his match from the most recent NY show a few weeks back. He was the drizzling shits.

Cody is great. In the ring he's very good, but he trained under the WWE style and it's going to take time to get rid of that. But his character he does so damn great. You watch him, and you believe that's him, even though he's nothing like that. His feud with Omega has been so money so far.

Adam Page I didn't like at first, but he's gotten so much better over the past year that I actually look forward to his matches when I know he's on the show.
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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #88 on: March 16, 2018, 01:27:32 PM »
Yeah so I watched some ROH TV tonight and checked out some matches and promos.

Cody isn't a good heel imo. He doesn't get real heel heat first off. Maybe that's changed with the Omega feud but I watched a bunch of segments from his ROH run and I sure know he doesn't in NJPW. His entire "Kiss the Ring" gimmick is going to be beloved in 2018 not hated. He's working a WWE gimmick and WWE wrestling style on the indies and getting praise from the people who can't stand WWE.

I watched the ROH TV from 3/9 and the only person who looked like a star on it was Emma (whatever her name is now). Flip Gordon was ok but I've seen at least a score of better high flyers in ROH before him. The other wrestlers were mostly embarrassingly bad. The presentation was sad. I mean:


wtf is this. ROH had better gimmicks and looks in 2004.

I watched Punishment Martinez Vs Marty Scrull. Punishment has impressive agility. That's the only nice thing I can say about him. He doesn't sell even in the most basic sense, he has no accuracy with his agility (he landed directly on Scrull's head at one point on a springboard sault), and made a number of simple botches. Corbin might not do anything spectacular but he does all the basics far better. I also watched a number of his promos and they're pretty similiar to Corbin's.

I also watched some promos where the Bullet Club looked like a bunch of scrubs. Marty Scrull beatboxing in the background for no reason, Adam Page is his cowboy vest, Cody using tired nWo catchphrases. If they're the cool heel stable of this generation we suck.

So yeah I'm not a fan.

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #89 on: March 16, 2018, 01:28:54 PM »
We'll......that's one opinion.
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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #90 on: March 16, 2018, 02:03:08 PM »
the whole crowd is wearing bullet club shirts, he's going around getting people (often attractive (for roh) women to kiss his ring as the crowd chants "kiss the ring" and cheers. That's the same kind of cool heel gimmick that gets shat on in WWE.

I'll take Miz, Jericho or Elias over that any day.

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« Reply #91 on: March 16, 2018, 02:21:11 PM »
I'll take Jericho but not the other two. No way. I honestly can't see what any of you see in those two. It makes no sense to me at all.

A lot of the stuff Cody does as a heel that I like is on Twitter, Being the Elite and post match interviews in NJPW.

Best heel in the business IMO and the hive mind isn't going to change my mind.
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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #92 on: March 16, 2018, 02:33:05 PM »
Do they still have Taelor Hendrix? That's kind of all my ROH interest.

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #93 on: March 16, 2018, 02:40:47 PM »
You're talking about us being a hive-mind while you're loving the most trendy act in the business.

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A lot of the stuff Cody does as a heel that I like is on Twitter,

Yeah I give up. Can't get much more fundamental a difference of opinion here.

I like my heels to do their heeling on the actual wrestling show. If I have to actively seek out their social media and internet shows to see what makes them truly hateable then that is a flawed model to me. Miz and Elias get their heat right there on the show every time. The fans want to cheer Miz all the time and he turns them around and has them booing because he understands what his role is. Elias started out as a unimpressive NXT guy and is now one of the most over guys on the roster because he's a cowardly heel who insults the crowds and plays the guitar. It's a simple fun gimmick.

Clearly not worth going back and forth anymore though.

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #94 on: March 16, 2018, 02:43:47 PM »
Best heel in the business IMO and the hive mind isn't going to change my mind.

It's not like anyone's telling you some personality lacking goof like Baron Corbin or Jinder Mahal is good.


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« Reply #95 on: March 16, 2018, 02:51:29 PM »
The Miz and Elias get all the wrong heat from me. It's not a good heel act when I don't want to see them get what they deserve because I don't want to see them.wrestle.
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« Reply #96 on: March 16, 2018, 02:54:58 PM »
I'll give you Elias isn't a good wrestler cause there's really nothing to disprove that.

Jiz is a good wrestler though.


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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #97 on: March 16, 2018, 02:58:29 PM »
Not in my view. His matches all look the same and bore me to tears.
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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #98 on: March 17, 2018, 10:17:47 AM »
Miz is fantastic. He's one of the few full heels around right now. He's not the cool heel, he's not the funny heel. Every time the fans get behind him, he knows just exactly what to say to get them to boo him, and it's not the cheap heat, "your team sucks" kind of heat either. His matches are great because of how he controls the crowd. The little things he does in the ring, like adding the "Yes" kicks, and proclaiming them the "It" kicks.

The problem with watching Cody in ROH is thee fans there pretty much suck. The Bullet Club is a heel group, or they used to be, but the ROH fans cheered them. Instead of making sure they booed, the Bullet Club played into that, so they can do their heel antics and the fans will eat it up as face. The ROH fans did that with Cody as well. They know who he is, his family, and how WWE screwed him over with the name issue, and not pushing him. He got that push on the indies, warranted or not, and the fans got behind him. I'm still a fan of his, and this his character is great and he plays it perfectly.
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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #99 on: March 17, 2018, 11:26:12 AM »
I don't think protecting your intellectual property is screwing someone over. If you start making exceptions for people then you won't be able to legally defend not making exceptions for others.