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« Reply #100 on: December 15, 2010, 01:34:14 PM »
Uhhh, USC was given the toughest sanctions since SMU this year brah

Brah?

The NCAA has done the death penalty since SMU but to Division II and Division III schools.

I know Kentucky in the late 80s-early 90s was close to getting death penaltyed.

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« Reply #101 on: December 15, 2010, 05:38:03 PM »
Yeah, but I don't know if the NCAA really has the balls to really do that to a Division I program anymore, especially if they are in a big media market.  Sure, the USC sanctions were harsh, but they aren't near death penalty level.

If the NCAA had given UK the death penalty in the late 1980s there would've been a riot.  No joke.  Basketball is life for people here in the Bluegrass state and it wouldn't have been pretty.  People who want to talk about the USC sanctions haven't got anything on UK during that period.  We couldn't even play on television IN OUR OWN STATE for a year!  The only good thing to come out of the debacle was that we lucked into Rick Pitino.  The AD wanted PJ Carlisimo and Pat Riley, but both declined and thank god for that.

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« Reply #102 on: January 10, 2011, 08:55:41 AM »
Just watched the episode Once Brothers and I think it's my favorite of all of them thus far.  Probably the most emotional one too.

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« Reply #103 on: January 10, 2011, 04:19:40 PM »
Yeah, but I don't know if the NCAA really has the balls to really do that to a Division I program anymore, especially if they are in a big media market.  Sure, the USC sanctions were harsh, but they aren't near death penalty level.

If the NCAA had given UK the death penalty in the late 1980s there would've been a riot.  No joke.  Basketball is life for people here in the Bluegrass state and it wouldn't have been pretty.  People who want to talk about the USC sanctions haven't got anything on UK during that period.  We couldn't even play on television IN OUR OWN STATE for a year!  The only good thing to come out of the debacle was that we lucked into Rick Pitino.  The AD wanted PJ Carlisimo and Pat Riley, but both declined and thank god for that.

I think the no media rights were finished after the Auburn team (93?) since they realized it was a pointless ban since it hurt the teams playing the offender as much as the team with the sanctions.


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« Reply #104 on: March 20, 2011, 11:57:38 PM »
Watching the Ali/Holmes documentary. Watching the training footage, its amazing anyone thought Ali was in condition to fight Holmes. Its even more amazing that Ali fought again after the Holmes fight.

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« Reply #105 on: March 21, 2011, 04:12:46 AM »
I wish they would do a 30 for 30 on the Unforgettables, the seniors on the 1992 UK basketball team that stuck around when the sanctions hit and who were the nucleus of the team (minus Jamal Mashburn) that took Duke to the limit in the regional final.  Fox Sports did a small one a few years back, but I imagine ESPN could do a better job.

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« Reply #106 on: September 29, 2011, 04:29:37 AM »
I've watched about half of the Bartman show so far.  So far there's been as much talk about the Red Sox as the Cubs.

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« Reply #107 on: September 29, 2011, 04:34:04 AM »
Is it only about Bartman? I thought it was supposed to be about fans placing blame on others for their team losing.
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« Reply #108 on: September 29, 2011, 04:34:26 AM »
Yeah, the director, a Boston fan, wanted to really drive home the parallels between the Buckner play and Bartman, in regards to the fanbase reactions. I watched this the other day and thought it was about as well done as it could possibly be without Bartman, himself, being interviewed.  

Edit: Bearhugger, Bartman is the primary focus, but it relates it to Boston's troubles, as well.

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« Reply #109 on: November 10, 2011, 03:50:15 AM »
I had no intentions of watching Roll Tide/War Eagle, but someone put it on against my complaints. It was one of the worst things I've ever seen. A million Internet bucks to whoever can explain to me the point of the possibly retarded piano player dressed in the white gown with Hercules armbands.

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« Reply #110 on: November 10, 2011, 07:07:00 AM »
I can't wait for 2014 when ESPN Films can put together a documentary about Cleveland not winning diddley dick in any sport for 50 years.
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« Reply #111 on: November 10, 2011, 07:08:31 AM »

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« Reply #112 on: November 10, 2011, 07:10:46 AM »
He's from Parma. Justin Roberts is a fountain of misinformation.
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« Reply #113 on: June 20, 2012, 10:08:03 AM »
I've been catching up on these with Netflix the last month or so.  Just watched Once Brothers and it no question is the best one of the entire series.  Just engrossing to watch all the way through.

The Bartman one was good when they focused on the Cubs and seemingly the fans melting down after the play; they were so tightly wound that Alou's tantrum followed by FOX's incessant replays of the incident made a bad situation so much worse.  If that happened today Bartman's home address and number would be on Twitter before the inning was over.

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« Reply #114 on: April 17, 2013, 06:31:50 AM »
Bumping this for next week's episode which looks interesting.  Elway to Marino (8:00 PM ET - 9:30) covering the 6 QBs selected in the 1983 NFL Draft.

The NC State one a few weeks ago was good and somewhat emotional as well given the subject matter.

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« Reply #115 on: April 23, 2013, 04:54:49 PM »
I'm watching it now and it's fantastic.

I didn't know this story about the league probably killing a trade that would have landed Elway to the Raiders...probably because Al Davis had spent 3 years suing the league to move the team.

Or that the Niners explored getting Elway and ditching Montana.

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« Reply #116 on: April 23, 2013, 05:31:06 PM »
You know what's cool about this draft?  Back with the old divisions all 5 teams in the AFC East took a QB in round 1.

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« Reply #117 on: April 23, 2013, 11:25:16 PM »
I too found the documentary fantastic, especially the trade options (including Dallas willing to trade QB Danny White).  I also wonder what would have happened if the Raiders deal went through and Howie Long landed in KC while Elway went to Oakland.

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« Reply #118 on: October 23, 2013, 07:18:22 AM »
The latest one about John Spano frauding his way into owning the New York Islanders in 1996/1997 is absolutely fascinating in a holy fuck at every party way.

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« Reply #119 on: October 23, 2013, 08:57:21 AM »
I was most interested in E making the movie.  Then again I was only partly paying attention.

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« Reply #120 on: October 23, 2013, 11:46:24 AM »
I wish they would do a 30 for 30 on the Unforgettables, the seniors on the 1992 UK basketball team that stuck around when the sanctions hit and who were the nucleus of the team (minus Jamal Mashburn) that took Duke to the limit in the regional final.  Fox Sports did a small one a few years back, but I imagine ESPN could do a better job.
This would be really interesting now considering Mr. Basketball Richie Farmer's political rise and fall in Kentucky.

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« Reply #121 on: October 23, 2013, 11:52:30 AM »
The latest one about John Spano frauding his way into owning the New York Islanders in 1996/1997 is absolutely fascinating in a holy fuck at every party way.

I actually followed hockey fairly closely back then and watched Sportscenter ad nauseam but I had no memory of this. It's a great story but Kevin Connolly's narration and putting himself on camera were annoying as hell.

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« Reply #122 on: October 23, 2013, 06:55:39 PM »
yeah I have no recollection of the Spano story at all.  That would be huge today.  The guy from the league office (I think) was the smartest one of them all after being suspicious after Spano didn't pick up the lunch tab during their meeting

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« Reply #123 on: December 16, 2013, 12:58:36 PM »
Highest recommendation for Youngstown Boys which is about Maurice Clarett and secondarily Jim Tressel. It was done by the same directors of The Two Escobars.

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« Reply #124 on: January 24, 2014, 07:06:12 AM »
Watched the Olympic one on Kerrigan/Harding.  Not bad but not great either.  Doesn't help that the main key interviewee was Harding so the portrait seemed a bit one-sided towards sympathy for her (and the Kerrigan side was basically, "We suspect she did it/was involved just because they were top competitors").

I'm not sold Tonya is entirely innocent.  I think she overheard stuff and never intervened but I also don't think she was the ringleader.  The "bodyguard" screamed dumb fuck moron and I'd readily believe that her husband & the "bodyguard" rolled on her simply to save their own skin whether she was involved or not.

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« Reply #125 on: March 16, 2014, 01:20:23 PM »
Highest recommendation for the Big East 30 for 30.

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« Reply #126 on: March 16, 2014, 01:34:21 PM »
Highest recommendation for the Big East 30 for 30.

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« Reply #127 on: March 17, 2014, 02:25:26 AM »
Thirded.  Absolutely fascinating documentary, especially for anybody who is/was a fan of any Big East teams.

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« Reply #128 on: April 17, 2014, 12:59:04 PM »
Yeah...this Bad Boys one is up there too.

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« Reply #129 on: April 17, 2014, 11:13:00 PM »
It was a trip seeing Dennis Rodman back when he still looked like a human being.

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« Reply #130 on: April 18, 2014, 09:53:08 AM »
Anyone watch the 30 for 30 about Hillsborough? What did the people who watched it think?


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« Reply #131 on: April 18, 2014, 11:33:09 AM »
I'm watching the Bad Boys one now and it's awesome. I've always been a huge Rodman fan, I own his Pistons jersey, and John Salley has always been a favorite of mine.
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« Reply #132 on: April 18, 2014, 09:21:54 PM »
Anyone watch the 30 for 30 about Hillsborough? What did the people who watched it think?
I did. I thought it was very good. Only criticism is that there are things about soccer and sport that are obvious to people in England, but probably could have been spelled out to Americans. I don't think they did much to adequately describe the layout of the Hillsborough grounds. I was surprised they didn't mention Heysel, but I can see why.

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« Reply #133 on: October 08, 2014, 09:19:00 AM »
Good, solid episode about the BC Point Shaving scheme during the '79-'80 season.

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« Reply #134 on: December 13, 2014, 02:03:36 PM »
The U Part 2 just as good if not better than Part 1.

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« Reply #135 on: December 13, 2014, 02:12:25 PM »
Absolutely.  Certainly educated me about the program.  That poor equipment manager.  All he wanted to do was be one of the cool kids.

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« Reply #136 on: December 14, 2014, 12:13:50 AM »
Agreed.  I actually preferred Part 1 just because it "built up" the program but Part 2 was equally solid for the first 3/4ths (I didn't care too much for the Shapiro/Shannon/Golden pieces myself).

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« Reply #137 on: December 15, 2014, 01:34:18 AM »
The only thing I took issue with on Part 2 was all the Miami players saying they would've smoked OU in 2000. That may be so but we were the only undefeated team that season and we deserve that national title.
I remember Miami fans at the time telling me OU wasn't the true champions and they didn't deserve the title because they didn't play #2. So what? #2 should be the champions?
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« Reply #138 on: December 15, 2014, 01:35:52 AM »
That's just typical what if hypotheticals to drum up arguments... what's your point?  Record Book shows Oklahoma as the National Champs.  All you need.

Also all players who lose a tight game/get passed over say that.  Even fans pull that card.

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« Reply #139 on: December 15, 2014, 01:43:29 AM »
That's just typical what if hypotheticals to drum up arguments... what's your point?  Record Book shows Oklahoma as the National Champs.  All you need.

Also all players who lose a tight game/get passed over say that.  Even fans pull that card.

I'm just venting my annoyance listening to them.
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« Reply #140 on: December 25, 2014, 03:32:28 AM »
ESPN2 has an all day marathon going today.

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« Reply #141 on: December 12, 2015, 10:46:46 PM »
Anybody else watch the Buffalo Bills 4 Super Bowls one? It was okay, kind of felt like the Raiders one a little bit in that it didn't really 'cover' ground that was new or really thought provoking.

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« Reply #142 on: December 13, 2015, 12:07:39 PM »
Yeah it was disappointing, very much a paint by the numbers recap of those years. Only interesting thing was Bruce Smith insisting the Bills had a better team than any of the teams they lost to in the Super Bowl. Yeah...

The '85 Bears as the next 30 for 30 is a pretty uninspiring choice. Is there really anything we don't know about that team at this point?

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« Reply #143 on: December 22, 2015, 02:00:53 PM »
Anybody else watch the Buffalo Bills 4 Super Bowls one? It was okay, kind of felt like the Raiders one a little bit in that it didn't really 'cover' ground that was new or really thought provoking.

Interesting. Everyone I've talked to about it has told me it was excellent....but everyone I've talked to about it is a Bills fan, so it's nice to have a neutral take.

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« Reply #144 on: December 26, 2015, 05:04:38 AM »
Watched The Four Falls of Buffalo on the DVR this morning and I thought it was better than the 30 for 30 episodes that are produced by the league that's being discussed. Usually when you see NFL/NBA/MLB Films Presents, you're in for a lesser episode but this was pretty solid. Not one of the best but solid. My only complaint is it felt really padded out at two hours and would have been much better at 90 minutes.

I think the Bears 30 for 30 could be great if handled well. But again, assuming that this is an NFL Films Production, they're gonna sort of whitewash how depressing a lot of the guys' lives were post-retirement (even though the trailer did allude to Jim McMahon & Fridge's health problems).

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« Reply #145 on: January 03, 2016, 09:23:04 PM »
Will Mongo's rasslin' days be looked at as one of those depressing post-retirement lives?

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« Reply #146 on: January 05, 2016, 06:41:52 AM »
Mongo was featured prominently in the trailer but no shoutouts to his rasslin days.

Honestly, Mongo's probably been one of the more successful Bears post-retirement. As much as his WCW run sucked, he got out of it with a lot of $$$ and didn't really get injured. Outside of Hollywood Hogan throwing bleach in his eyes. ;)

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« Reply #147 on: November 10, 2016, 08:18:10 AM »
Charlie Ebersol made a 30 for 30 on the XFL.  It is premiering at DOC NYC tomorrow and then will air on ESPN in February.
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« Reply #148 on: November 10, 2016, 08:20:15 AM »
Charlie Ebersol made a 30 for 30 on the XFL.  It is premiering at DOC NYC tomorrow and then will air on ESPN in February.

Did they interview anyone from WWE?
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« Reply #149 on: November 10, 2016, 08:27:58 AM »
No idea.  Just read a little snippet about it being at that film festival tomorrow.
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