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12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« on: December 05, 2011, 01:37:31 AM »
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From Kevin Nash on twitter:

"Made up my mind, packing my wresteling gear. Someones getting a beat down in Tampa tomorrow night on Raw."

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2011, 02:04:26 AM »





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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2011, 02:09:11 AM »
Nash hasn't had hops like that since he played for Tennessee.

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2011, 02:23:27 AM »
Haha, Cena's reaction is solid gold.

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2011, 02:42:31 AM »
Best news in forever.

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2011, 06:23:37 AM »
So, who is the guy who can give give Nash five minutes and make it look good?  I have my money on Evan Bourne being re-welcomed to RAW.

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2011, 08:05:57 AM »
So, who is the guy who can give give Nash five minutes and make it look good?

Mason Ryan

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2011, 08:12:26 AM »
I'd suggest Heath Slater, but a ginger beatdown that big would make Nash the biggest babyface on the roster.

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2011, 08:30:51 AM »
I'd suggest Heath Slater, but a ginger beatdown that big would make Nash the biggest babyface on the roster.

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2011, 08:32:11 AM »
It'll be Dolph Ziggler and no one here will know how to react.

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2011, 09:04:59 AM »
It should be Jack Swagger, future JTTS.
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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2011, 09:06:09 AM »
Roddy Piper.
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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2011, 09:06:29 AM »
It'll be Dolph Ziggler and no one here will know how to react.




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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2011, 09:22:00 AM »
So, who is the guy who can give give Nash five minutes and make it look good?


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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2011, 09:24:56 AM »
Ziggler vs Sid for 2012 MOTY

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2011, 09:28:52 AM »
It'll be Dolph Ziggler and no one here will know how to react.

Or, Ziggler and Nash form an alliance with Ziggler playing the role of HBK and Nash playing the role of Nash.

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2011, 09:36:32 AM »
That road ends with Ziggler eating a Pedigree, you know.

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2011, 09:37:41 AM »
Yeah, but that's every road.

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2011, 12:05:21 PM »
It'll be Dolph Ziggler and no one here will know how to react.

Or, Ziggler and Nash form an alliance with Ziggler playing the role of HBK and Nash playing the role of Nash.

Vickie already plays a good Sid.
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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2011, 12:34:44 PM »
Okay, I got a laugh out of Cena calling Laranitis "Dr Freud"


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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2011, 12:37:35 PM »
"Now whoever climbs the ladder first gets to use the sledgehammer."

Why not just use the ladder as a weapon? Or another sledgehammer? Or anything else?


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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2011, 12:39:31 PM »
I think the main stip is, "use without ramifications"

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2011, 12:40:36 PM »
 Interrobang 7:38 pm
    They forgot about Brodus Clay didn't they?

 Kilroy 7:38 pm
    Yep. They forgot about Clay.

 Kilroy 7:39 pm
    Nowadays everybody wanna talk like they got somethin' to say, but nothin' comes out when they move their lips. Just a bunch of gibberish. And motherfuckers act like they forgot about Clay.

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #25 on: December 05, 2011, 12:54:03 PM »
So I am one to assume that at the PPV, Henry vs. Show will be a Chairs Match and the Raw Title Clusterfuck will be TLC Rules.  The other two stips could literally go to any of the other possible matches
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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #26 on: December 05, 2011, 12:57:43 PM »
I see Ryder somehow pulling off a win, or getting a Ziggler shot some other way at the PPV being the Table Match.

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #27 on: December 05, 2011, 01:02:06 PM »
I could see them double-dipping on Ziggler AGAIN, with him and Swagger winning the tag belts in a ladder match or something but then the fatigue setting in on Dolph and causing him to lose to Ryder. Then they can continue the feud with Ziggler calling the victory a fluke and leading to Ryder winning a nice, competitive rematch.
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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #28 on: December 05, 2011, 01:11:56 PM »
Yeah, I could see that.

Zach looked pretty good in there against Cena.

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #29 on: December 05, 2011, 01:17:42 PM »
Cena gives up his title shots for the less fortunate! Stop booing him!

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #30 on: December 05, 2011, 01:18:18 PM »
Hey John, if you felt this way the whole time why didn't you just lay down for Ryder?


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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #31 on: December 05, 2011, 02:00:14 PM »
God damn, even cool announcements fall flat when Johnny Ace makes 'em.

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #32 on: December 05, 2011, 02:03:36 PM »
I don't like that WWE.com refers to non-title matches as"Title-Free", though that would be an awesome (and mildly ironic) nickname for a hard-up wrestler.
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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #33 on: December 05, 2011, 02:05:20 PM »
"If you say it's your destiny again I swear to Jeebus I'm gonna start drinking'"

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #34 on: December 05, 2011, 03:06:50 PM »
Cena gives up his title shots for the less fortunate! Stop booing him!

Lawler telling Cole to cheer Cena was a pretty-thinly veiled reference to the audience.

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #35 on: December 05, 2011, 03:20:15 PM »
I loved Lauranitis wishing Morrison the best in his future endeavors.

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #36 on: December 05, 2011, 03:51:24 PM »
HHH/Nash will be the worst ladder match in history.

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #37 on: December 05, 2011, 03:53:42 PM »
I don't get what's going on with Daniel Bryan.  They have him lose to an injured Mark Henry and then immediately after have him go out and lose because he's injured.  He better be turning heel because what they've taught us is that Bryan isn't good enough to beat an injured person and isn't tough enough to compete while injured.  What a boob.

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #38 on: December 05, 2011, 03:58:41 PM »
Maybe Ryder doesn't get opportunities because he loses 2 minute matches to Del Rio.  And "he deserves at least one" is such nonsense when he had one a couple ppvs ago...immediately after Ziggler had already wrestled a match...and he lost.  But Cena is a super guy so we should stop booing him.

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #39 on: December 05, 2011, 04:02:02 PM »
So Ryder loses to Cena then cries about it being all he has so Cena gives him the shot...  Then he cheats to beat Henry....  Then distracts Ziggler so he loses...  Then he jumps him after the match.

What a fucking dick.

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #40 on: December 05, 2011, 04:19:25 PM »
This was such a poorly booked RAW.  The crowd was dead most of the night because they kept getting fed one minute matches. 

They shouldn't have had Henry lose like that to Zack Ryder.  He shouldn't have even been in that match.  He has been an absolute, and he shouldn't be able to go down to one finisher at this point in his run.  You have Swagger RIGHT there to use in that spot.  Cena vs. Swagger is a decent match to set up for the next week. 

Of course, what pissed me off moreso was that the match pretty much turned Ryder into a whiner. 

Furthermore, if you're trying to sell this terrible ladder match between Nash and HHH, you have Nash have an actual hard fought match against a serious competitor.  That way, you can sell to the viewing public that Nash is just as good as he was fifteen years ago.  You could have used this segment to get Mason Ryan over as a future star as he goes down to the powerbomb.

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #41 on: December 05, 2011, 04:21:34 PM »
Mason Ryan vs. Kevin Nash would be worse than the HHH/Nash ladder match

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #42 on: December 05, 2011, 04:24:08 PM »
You'd think that as much as people talk up Nash that he could carry Mason through a watchable T.V. match.

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #43 on: December 05, 2011, 04:28:26 PM »
Nash isn't carrying anything...least of all Mason Ryan who might be the worst worker on the roster.  The Observer notes for the dark matches jokingly (or...seriously) said that he only blew two spots in his dark match.

There are only 3 kinds of people who can have a good match with Kevin Nash.

1.  Someone who can bump their ass off and make him look like a monster
2.  Someone who is super smart at working around him and can use all the shortcuts (but with no blood...that's harder now) HHH hopefully fits in here.
3.  Samoa Joe a couple years ago


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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #44 on: December 05, 2011, 04:42:39 PM »
Once again, WWE faces are just assholes; Dolph Ziggler beats a main eventer clean (well, kinda) last week and gets nothing while Zack Ryder needs two chances AND help to finally get a US title shot, then attacks the champion after his match. 


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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #45 on: December 05, 2011, 04:42:45 PM »
I pretty much got what I wanted from this conversation.  For all of Nash's experience, he can't have a passable match with anyone who isn't one of the best workers of a generation.

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #46 on: December 05, 2011, 04:44:46 PM »
Well...when you only have 2 passable matches in the last like...decade or so to look at...one would jump to this conclusion yes.

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #47 on: December 05, 2011, 05:23:54 PM »
Cena still doesn't have a feud heading into the pay-per-view. Weird.

I feel like WWE would rather just skip December and head straight to Royal Rumble.

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #48 on: December 05, 2011, 05:37:35 PM »
He's feuding with the fans

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #49 on: December 06, 2011, 12:31:44 AM »
HHH/Nash should be a chairs match, so Nash can sit down to take a break mid-match.

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