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« Reply #100 on: June 29, 2009, 09:32:44 AM »
The Vince epilogue on Savage's departure is pretty surreal stuff too.

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« Reply #101 on: July 02, 2009, 05:10:55 AM »
Sure was.  Another surreal deal was Vince commentating the Flair/Savage title change.  You'd have never known he chewed out both guys earlier.  And nice to see Heenan/Perfect get out one more "We told ya so" before the breakup occured a few months later.

Also, the Hart/Backlund Superstars match was excellent.  Loved seeing Backlund get Hart in a bunch of wacky pinning predictaments early on then repeat them at the end.  And the whoa whoa whoa sounds Backlund makes are priceless. 

This also reminds me of something about Hart.  Seems like people get on HHH for not making opponents look like enough of a threat to actually win.  I've noticed the same thing in Hart's face vs face and some of his other mid 90s matches.  Seems like the Hart character is just using these matches as a bit of a workout before he knows he can't fool around anymore and ends the match.  The 1st match w/ Backlund and the one w/ 1-2-3 Kid are examples of this.
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« Reply #102 on: July 02, 2009, 08:49:35 AM »
I look forward to seeing the Hart / Virgil Superstars match in 3 years. I missed it when I was a kid and remember finding the match a bit absurd even then, but I want to see it. Fightingest champ ever!

Speaking of Superstars, I like how last week's Superstars gave Steamboat the Ultimo theme and this week he has his WCW theme. The WCW theme rules so this is a-ok with me.

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« Reply #103 on: July 02, 2009, 11:52:17 AM »
They added a "Where Are They Now" section to go along with the feature on wwe.com which featurs Bob Backlund vs. Greg Valentine, Pat Patterson, Bobby Duncum, and Hulk Hogan, as well as the already posted matches vs. Harley Race and Jimmy Snuka. Good stuff.

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« Reply #104 on: July 06, 2009, 09:14:30 AM »
Quite the debut for "The Viking" on Superstars. He does some wacky elbow drop that appears to miss quite badly.

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« Reply #105 on: July 06, 2009, 09:20:15 AM »
^ Haha, he sure does.

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« Reply #106 on: July 10, 2009, 11:54:58 PM »
It's odd hearing Bob Backlund call Diesel "Kevin Nash" on Raw 91.

They also updated early again (yeah!) with what sounds like an interesting 6 man tag (Randy Savage/Harley Race/Adrian Adonis vs. Roddy Piper/Ricky Steamboat/Junkyard Dog) and of course, John Cena's first 25 matches.

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« Reply #107 on: July 11, 2009, 12:24:01 AM »
They also updated early again (yeah!) with what sounds like an interesting 6 man tag (Randy Savage/Harley Race/Adrian Adonis vs. Roddy Piper/Ricky Steamboat/Junkyard Dog)

This was on Vintage a couple of weeks ago. It's an elimination match and you get some very good Piper/Savage interaction.

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« Reply #108 on: July 11, 2009, 12:31:11 AM »
I'm perusing the WWE Universe WWECLASSICS.com section and there's some interesting tidbits about WCW Month (August):

- The PPV will be a WCW (that should be obvious, though)
- "We pulled one of the few Owen Hart matches from WCW. You won't believe how difficult it was to find that match (WCW didn't do the best job labeling videos when we got their tape library)"
- Only "a few" repeats off the WCW DVD, and it ended up being a coincidence the DVD and August theme occur at the same time.

It's also mentioned that they work together with the Vintage production team on some stuff, so that would explain the above 6 man.

September is not "Old School III" anymore and that theme will likely be December or February (which kind of ruins the "Back to School" tie-in, but it says it gives them more time to search for gems). The good news is the reason for the move is they were hyped to bump-up "Hart Foundation Month".

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« Reply #109 on: July 11, 2009, 02:17:36 AM »
Got through all the June single-match videos. 

- The Jericho/Christian vs Trish/Lita match from 2003 was pretty awesome I must say. 
- The LOD beatdown by DX/Outlaws was a little depressing but not as bad as I remember it.  Probably because table bumps would become passe in the coming years. 
- The Rock/HHH I Quit match was the stuff TNA dreams are made of just one night after the Rock/Foley I Quit match and IIRC, Rock actually said "I Quit" when taunting HHH.  It was ignored.
- Seeing Hogan getting pinned by AA is always a treat.
- The Harts/Bulldogs match was unsurprisingly fun as was Heenan treating Mike McGuirk like a pile of shit.
- The Tugboat turn was quite comical on a lot of levels.
- Completely forgot about the fast count on the Jericho/HHH match that never happened.

Everything else I had no opinion on or already commented on earlier though I haven't seen the Raws and I'm only about to watch the SuperStars eps w/ feature matches . . . fuck, I need something to look forward to on these shows.
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« Reply #110 on: July 11, 2009, 04:36:16 PM »
For those interested, the WWECLASSICS.com board is taking requests for Hart Foundation month in September.  Everyone gets to request two matches and they'll pick 3 choices out of a hat.
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« Reply #111 on: July 12, 2009, 01:17:06 AM »
Maybe somebody can request that Macho Man/Bret Hart match from Japan in '94.

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« Reply #112 on: July 17, 2009, 05:02:45 AM »
So apparently Venk needs his SuperStars fix . . .



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« Reply #113 on: July 17, 2009, 07:28:15 AM »
Hooray. Maybe that means they WILL have stuff up, though I took 'the guy' (Joey?) saying "On the bright side..." as meaning no, they won't.

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« Reply #114 on: July 17, 2009, 09:05:38 AM »
They put all their vids up but one (JR's pick).  I still keep the archive updated at the TOTSM so you can check them out there if they still don't show on Classics's page.  Dusty/Graham, Flair/Dragon 2/89, Hogan/Savage 4/89, Hart/Perfect 4/89, & Hogan/Goldberg were the matches added.

You just have to jimmy the links up to find them.  Sometimes, they'll upload the vids as early as Wednesday for the next week.  Just try not to rub it in their faces that one can backdoor their way through the links.  I don't think Mr Styles and friends would take too kindly to that.
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« Reply #115 on: July 17, 2009, 01:06:48 PM »
Whenever I've tried to manually change the post date and episode number of a TV show to get an early link it fails, so I either try on the wrong weeks or am doing something wrong.

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« Reply #116 on: July 17, 2009, 02:27:29 PM »
In all fairness, sometimes the links don't work until Monday.  It's a crapshoot.
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« Reply #117 on: July 19, 2009, 03:07:55 AM »
I always wondered something about WWF Superstars. Were Vince and Piper really at the shows, or were they in front of a green screen?

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« Reply #118 on: July 19, 2009, 03:16:30 AM »
The opening is an obvious effect, and many times it looks like shots of them on commentary are fake too, but they must have been there SOMETIMES since Piper walloped Vince with a chair during the Flair's first run.

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« Reply #119 on: July 19, 2009, 04:21:23 AM »
Yeah, same w/ Challenge.  But they were there when the Nasties shoooed Heenan off the set and threw Jimmy Hart onto Money Inc
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« Reply #120 on: July 19, 2009, 02:56:04 PM »
I think they were generally in the building so they could be at the table for visual effect, but at least in the 1990s commentary was largely done in post production.  Piper mentions in his book showing up at the studio to do commentary with Vince.

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« Reply #121 on: July 19, 2009, 04:48:28 PM »
Of note, and I could be wrong, but the late 80s interview podium I always see on Prime Time where you can see the ring in the background appears to be the same set / angle they digitally insert the commentators, which is kind of weird.

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« Reply #122 on: July 20, 2009, 10:05:31 AM »
I'm watching Warrior's debut on Challenge, he pulls out a friggin' leapfrog, I've never seen him do that.

Guys debuts can be funny sometimes, cause you see them pull out all crazy kinds of moves they wouldn't do later, once they establish their 'character'.

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« Reply #123 on: July 20, 2009, 10:09:47 AM »
A good example: HHH won his debut match with a Diamond Cutter.

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« Reply #124 on: July 20, 2009, 10:11:19 AM »
And with all the Piledriver promotion on the show, I've come up with a theory.

Once Demolition got their theme music, their face turn was imminent.

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« Reply #125 on: July 24, 2009, 08:12:13 AM »
Wow, an Andre/Hogan match from 1980 that ISN'T the Shea Stadium match. And despite seeing it multiple times now, I can't get used to Gary Cappetta doing WWF ring intros. It's awesome though.

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« Reply #126 on: July 24, 2009, 08:39:41 AM »
Two things I always preferred Capetta over Finkel . . . they way he says "and IT IS scheduled for ONE FALL" and how he introduces Ricky Steamboat.

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« Reply #127 on: July 24, 2009, 08:50:15 AM »
Lita vs. Trish from 2000:

Fans: Lita! Lita! Lita!
JR: These fans are chanting "Take it off"!

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« Reply #128 on: July 24, 2009, 08:52:08 AM »
Yeah Steamboats entrance for his match with Austin is epic and awesome.

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« Reply #129 on: July 24, 2009, 09:16:14 AM »
A good example: HHH won his debut match with a Diamond Cutter.

And don't forget The Undertaker using dropkicks when he first showed up.

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« Reply #130 on: July 24, 2009, 01:31:53 PM »
The Bruno-Zbyszko match with Zbyszko's turn is up.  For those who have never seen, check it out

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« Reply #131 on: July 25, 2009, 03:14:48 AM »
Super Dave Osborne is on the first Raw of 95. That made my day.

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« Reply #132 on: July 25, 2009, 03:41:03 AM »
From the latest Raw:

Announcer: The belt cannot change hands on a disqualification
Vince, at the moment Announcer (I forget the man's name but he looks kind of like Shawn Majumder) says "belt": Championship

I realize he's speaking in a broken sentence, but it was really funny all the same.

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« Reply #133 on: July 25, 2009, 12:46:14 PM »
Just watched the Doink/Backlund Raw episode.  Pretty decent match but one w/ absolutely no doubt to what the outcome would be.  It's been a little surreal listening to Shawn Michaels do commentary and having to put over virtually everyone and the WWF product in general.  Nice to see Mark Starr ping ponging back and forth from jobbing for WCW to WWF back to WCW shortly after this.  Fun little punchline at the end of the ep w/ Santa giving Michaels a foam Ladies' Championship w/ McMahon, of all people, referring to it as the b-word.
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« Reply #134 on: August 01, 2009, 07:10:40 AM »
I'm sorry, is Mean Gene saying that Hogan's locker room celebration following winning the title at Mania VII was "raped"?

Hold the phone! BOB HOLLY is on Superstars as a jobber in a tag match against the Bushwahckers!

Vince and Piper refer to "The Dragon" as Ricky Steamboat multiple times, so that's something to think about I guess (it seems to be a modern argument to debate whether he was known as "The Dragon" and Monsoon would call him Steamboat because he could say whatever he wanted). I don't like how, after using his Ultimo Dragon theme / WCW theme in vignettes to cover his 1991 theme, this episode uses the generic music they use to cover up Sirius.

The debut of IRS!

Vince calls out Mustafa as being the Iron Sheik! Awesome.

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« Reply #135 on: August 01, 2009, 09:40:24 AM »
Is all this from the post-WrestleMania VII episode of Superstars that hasn't been uploaded yet?

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« Reply #136 on: August 01, 2009, 10:56:25 AM »
Sure is . . .



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« Reply #137 on: August 01, 2009, 02:14:13 PM »
How soon will it be until Superstars begins with this theme?


Superstars- 4th theme

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« Reply #138 on: August 01, 2009, 10:45:06 PM »
Sure is . . .



I updated TOTSM w/ the WCW vids for the 1st week though I can't figure out the filename for the ppv.  Well, actually Landy figured out most of the filenames first as he always does.

Yeah, I wandered on over there to see if you had some links I could use. The weird thing about the PPV is based on June and July, it looked to be a really easy URL to crack. They're either getting tricky or it's just not up yet.

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« Reply #139 on: August 01, 2009, 11:52:31 PM »
I'm guessing they used a derivative of the actual ppv used but I can't figure it out.  My guess would be it's Bash at the Beach 96 but who knows.  It's probably something already offered on CoD so any editing would already be completed.
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« Reply #140 on: August 02, 2009, 10:23:52 AM »
Watching these episodes of Superstars over the last few weeks, Paul Bearer seems a little creepier than he usually does. And Macho Man is sort of a tweener on commentary, despite him turning face after WrestleMania VII.

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« Reply #141 on: August 02, 2009, 11:29:06 AM »
IIRC, Savage stays that way until the Roberts feud.
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« Reply #142 on: August 03, 2009, 04:38:11 AM »
Clash XXVII is this month's Dot-Com Big One. I was actually going to predict Clash XXVIII (because it would be an August event, not that it matters) because to me, when the Classics forum guy said "WCW PPV or Clash of the Champions event", that suggested to me it would be a COTC. Why bring it up otherwise? Looking at the link, it seems they added _coc after ppv.

I see Owen Hart's WCW match isn't dated, but that's no surprise after reading the tale of how difficult it was to just FIND the damn thing thanks to WCW's tape labelling (or lack thereof).

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« Reply #143 on: August 03, 2009, 05:14:05 AM »
ppv_coc was the filename.  Dammit.  I did try 'clash' and clash w/ a few different numbers like 'clash22'.

I wish they would have showed the 8/94 Clash instead for no other reason so I can see Steamboat hulk up against Austin. 
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« Reply #144 on: August 03, 2009, 05:15:45 AM »
I just watched that match on CoD and loved it. My cousin and I were actually really hyped for that Clash (and that never happened for WCW events) due to all the hype about Flair's ULTIMATE surprise.

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« Reply #145 on: August 03, 2009, 05:16:37 AM »
lmao @ them using the Invasion logo

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« Reply #146 on: August 03, 2009, 05:19:04 AM »
As I noted the DVD thread, it's even better that it's an embroidered (sp?) logo.
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« Reply #147 on: August 03, 2009, 05:22:15 AM »
I enjoy reading stories about WCW.

Quote from: WWEClassics.com on WWE Universe
In some cases, the music used for WCW was part of their music database. We don't share or have the same music they do and in rare cases we don't even know what that original music was (and neither did they when they provided us with video).

I'm looking forward to HHH vs. Steamboat on the next update.

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« Reply #148 on: August 03, 2009, 05:39:38 AM »
According to Tony Schivonie, the Bossman Slam is actually a "Spike Piledriver".

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« Reply #149 on: August 03, 2009, 06:14:48 AM »
The Superbrawl 6-way is pretty great despite Evan Karagais trying his best to bring it down by not being anywhere near as good as everyone else (though to be fair, the biggest botch of the match is Yang's doing).