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Basically the Jon Jones Steroid Thread
« on: December 23, 2015, 10:57:31 AM »
I figured we should have a place to put these because I can't figure out where one of the news bits was.

Anyway, everyone knows Gleison Tibau got busted for the roids in an out of competition test, BUT he also got caught using EPO in a post-fight drug test. This is actually quite difficult to catch someone on, but increased testing made it happen. USADA testing is legit, and the further implementation of a biological passport is going to catch a ton of people.


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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2015, 11:00:08 AM »
Damn. That's a good catch.

And if he fades that bad after 2 rounds with EPO, imagine without it. He'll make Romero look like a cardio machine.
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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2015, 11:18:38 AM »
All the regular anabolic stuff that he took gave his frame way more muscle than it was supposed to handle. His blood can't carry the oxygen well enough on its own to keep that engine going, makes sense that he'd take some EPO to artificially do it for him.


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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2015, 11:19:59 AM »
For being such a roided up manbeast... his fights really sucked and were boring most of the time

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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2015, 01:46:13 AM »
So is GSP the GOAT over Anderson because he was never caught?

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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2015, 01:49:34 AM »
well he was never caught because CANADA according to some people

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/12/23/10659064/mma-news-nick-diaz-gsp-used-steroids-missed-weight-by-3-pounds-ufc-158

that interview is worth listening to in full to get a real glimpse into the wild mind of Nick Diaz btw. Chael just let him rant.


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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (1/12/2016: Yoel Romero)
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2016, 10:00:12 AM »
Yoel Romero got popped by USADA.


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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (1/12/2016: Yoel Romero)
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2016, 10:04:44 AM »
Hahahaha

Is there anyone who's surprised? Except maybe Romero and his team being surprised they were caught.
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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (1/12/2016: Yoel Romero)
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2016, 10:25:53 AM »
ATT 2/2 in USADA drug test failures. This explains why Rockhold was all of a sudden talking rematching Weidman.

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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (1/12/2016: Yoel Romero)
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2016, 02:42:38 PM »
The funny thing to me is how readily certain people accepted that this guy was just an athletic freak and not on steroids. At 38 years old this guy looked more explosive, powerful, and muscular than anyone else in the division.

Newsflash: There is no such thing as somebody that much more athletic than anybody else their size that is not on steroids.


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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (1/12/2016: Yoel Romero)
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2016, 01:04:30 AM »
I accepted he was an athletic freak because of the roids.

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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (1/12/2016: Yoel Romero)
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2016, 10:48:22 AM »
http://www.ufc.com/news/UFC-Statement-on-Diego-Brandao-011516

I believe this is considered the same as a steroid test because Brandao was over the metabolites allowance. So, two years for him.


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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (1/15/2016: Diego Brandao?)
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2016, 01:32:34 PM »
Romero's B sample came back...CLEAN.


CLEAN NEVER DOUBT THE POWER OF PRAYER THIS GUY IS STILL GONNA WRECK THE DIVISION


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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (1/15/2016: Diego Brandao?)
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2016, 11:30:25 PM »


SORRY TIM YOURE GONNA HAVE TO BITCH ABOUT SOMEONE ELSE


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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (1/15/2016: Diego Brandao?)
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2016, 04:51:38 AM »
That's why they have B-samples.

Unfortunately this means Romero gets his title shot and his 3 minute chance to win the belt.
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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (1/15/2016: Diego Brandao?)
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2016, 07:07:43 AM »
Tibau dropped his appeal and is accepting the suspension because fighting it is "too expensive" which I imagine is code for "I have no defense but won't admit I'm a cheat".
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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (1/15/2016: Diego Brandao?)
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2016, 06:49:01 AM »
Romero was just given his suspension. So much for the tainted supplement theory.


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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (1/15/2016: Diego Brandao?)
« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2016, 03:51:40 AM »
In what has to be a first in the post-USADA era Romero's suspension has been reduced from two years to nine months, MMAFighting.com reports.

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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (1/15/2016: Diego Brandao?)
« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2016, 03:55:41 AM »
At least his supplements were actually tested and proven to be tainted. I'm not sure why no one ever sues the supplement companies.
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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (1/15/2016: Diego Brandao?)
« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2016, 05:15:15 AM »
It seems like USADA is taking the stance of "Ok, we believe you when you say you didn't know the supplements were tainted but at the end of the day you should know what you're ingesting."

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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (1/15/2016: Diego Brandao?)
« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2016, 06:49:32 AM »
GIVE YOEL HIS TITLE SHOT

#NOTHISFAULT


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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (1/15/2016: Diego Brandao?)
« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2016, 07:33:23 AM »
There's really only two ways this could have happened.

1) He didn't pay attention to the formula of the supplements and if he had he'd have noticed that there were prohibited items in it he shouldn't have taken it. In which case fuck him he deserves the two years.

2) The prohibited items weren't on the label. And if that's the case if I'm him I'm suing the company in question for costing me money.

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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (1/15/2016: Diego Brandao?)
« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2016, 07:35:45 AM »
He released a statement saying that he was going to sue.


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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (1/15/2016: Diego Brandao?)
« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2016, 08:28:51 AM »
Looks like the suspension is 6 months retroactive not 9 so he's free to fight as of July 12th. He was next in line for a title shot but I feel like if Weidman wins the UFC might do the trilogy so give Romero the winner of Vitor/Jacare. Yes I know he fought Jacare already and the fight sucked but I also think the fight was a draw and him vs Vitor is fire.

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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (1/15/2016: Diego Brandao?)
« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2016, 12:05:38 PM »
According to Ariel, USADA has informed Mir of a potentially failed test.
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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (1/15/2016: Diego Brandao?)
« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2016, 12:11:47 PM »
That's not very surprising to me. He was definitely on gear in the past, he was on TRT when it was allowed too.


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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (2/8/2016: Frank Mir)
« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2016, 12:25:41 PM »
Career over. No way he sits for 2 years and comes back. Somebody check on HSJ.

 


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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (2/8/2016: Frank Mir)
« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2016, 01:00:24 PM »
Yeah, it's not like I was expecting him to fail, but I'm not surprised. And there's no way he fights after this.
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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (2/8/2016: Frank Mir)
« Reply #28 on: April 08, 2016, 01:22:41 PM »
And he's of course denying it
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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (2/8/2016: Frank Mir)
« Reply #29 on: April 08, 2016, 01:26:11 PM »
Tainted supplements!

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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (2/8/2016: Frank Mir)
« Reply #30 on: April 08, 2016, 01:28:42 PM »
Oh, of course!

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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (2/8/2016: Frank Mir)
« Reply #31 on: April 08, 2016, 01:37:37 PM »
Yeah, he's never taken steroids in his life



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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (2/8/2016: Frank Mir)
« Reply #32 on: April 11, 2016, 06:09:09 AM »
I know being the Frank Mir fanboy that I am, I have to come in here and defend the guy. He was on his podcast this weekend where he talked about it in full.

He said he tested positive for the lowest limits for an oral steroid. This was the test taken on March 19, after the fight with Hunt.

Frank said the USADA guys told him that the amount in his system, he likely took it 4-6 weeks out. However, Frank passed a random USADA drug test in early February at his house. That means Frank would have had to take this steroid over the span of a week (a steroid that helps with cutting weight and endurance) after passing this random drug test.

Now anybody who has any knowledge of steroids know that you need to be on it for more than a week to get the benefits. Also the fact that Frank KNEW he would get drug tested again the night of his fight make it odd that he would risk it.

I don't want to say that something could have been contaminated (not just supplements, but food) but Frank has always been straight forward with his TRT, adderall and anything else and has passed every USADA drug test he had been given (6 in total before March 19).


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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (2/8/2016: Frank Mir)
« Reply #33 on: April 11, 2016, 06:13:38 AM »

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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (2/8/2016: Frank Mir)
« Reply #34 on: May 11, 2016, 09:03:07 AM »
Mir's B sample tested positive. Career over.


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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (2/8/2016: Frank Mir)
« Reply #35 on: May 11, 2016, 09:15:17 AM »


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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (2/8/2016: Frank Mir)
« Reply #36 on: May 11, 2016, 09:54:43 AM »
For the best.


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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (2/8/2016: Frank Mir)
« Reply #37 on: May 11, 2016, 11:39:16 AM »
*mails bottles of booze to Long Island*

 


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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (2/8/2016: Frank Mir)
« Reply #38 on: May 12, 2016, 09:55:46 AM »
He's using the tainted kangaroo meat defense...
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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (2/8/2016: Frank Mir)
« Reply #39 on: June 10, 2016, 11:13:29 AM »
Chad Mendes just got popped. The out of competition test just so happened to be when he was on a cycle.


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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (6/10/2016: Chad Mendes)
« Reply #40 on: June 10, 2016, 11:17:03 AM »
can't trust anyone in that camp of roided up manlets.

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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (6/10/2016: Chad Mendes)
« Reply #41 on: July 11, 2016, 07:08:29 AM »
Chael Sonnen said on The Joe Rogan Experience that Jon Jones tested positive for two estrogen blockers. He also seemed to think there's about a 0% chance it would be a tainted supplement when Rogan floated that possibility.

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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (6/10/2016: Chad Mendes)
« Reply #42 on: July 11, 2016, 08:53:50 AM »


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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (6/10/2016: Chad Mendes)
« Reply #43 on: July 11, 2016, 09:25:03 AM »
Chael was on the JRE today and talked about how it couldn't have been a tainted supplement. He said that Jones was probably trying to restart his body from past steroid use and now he's busted.


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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (Jon Jones)
« Reply #44 on: July 11, 2016, 05:19:10 PM »
Chael Sonnen said on The Joe Rogan Experience that Jon Jones tested positive for two estrogen blockers. He also seemed to think there's about a 0% chance it would be a tainted supplement when Rogan floated that possibility.

yeah, I don't think anyone was buying the "tainted supplement" bs in the first place......

and given Chael's history, and history of getting popped, I think he knows what he's talking about.  It's like getting A-Rod to weigh in on PED suspensions in baseball.  It would not surprise me at all if Jones was coming off a cycle and got popped for drugs meant to deal with that......which is p stupid and lazy on his part to get popped like that.....but at least it wasn't cocaine and he didn't kill someone driving fucked up

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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (Jon Jones)
« Reply #45 on: July 12, 2016, 06:13:46 AM »
Supposedly the supplements he was taking basically were meant to starve off the body's tendency to create tons of estrogen in response to elevated levels of testosterone. So yeah....not looking good for Bones.
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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (Jon Jones)
« Reply #46 on: July 12, 2016, 07:27:46 AM »
You'd think an athlete would be smarter than to go to someone with no understanding of how to cycle to beat a test and such... but somehow trusted this group of power lifting bros at the new gym he went too.

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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (Jon Jones)
« Reply #47 on: July 13, 2016, 03:05:28 AM »
So I guess Cormier's fight pay got cut from 1 million to 500k because it ceased to be a title fight. Wow....that is messed up by Zuffa. Not that I am surprised.
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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (Jon Jones)
« Reply #48 on: July 13, 2016, 03:29:40 AM »
http://www.flocombat.com/article/43531-ufc-200-a-journal-of-chaos

He personally apologized to everyone that approached him at the airport for the failed drug test.


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Re: New Positive Steroid Tests (Jon Jones)
« Reply #49 on: July 16, 2016, 12:05:36 AM »


lot of truth bombs in this about USADA.


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