Author Topic: Basically the Jon Jones Steroid Thread (Read 10561 times)

Zetterberg is Go · « **Reply #50 on:** July 18, 2016, 05:37:57 AM »

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The Nevada State Athletic Commission extended a temporary suspension for Jon Jones on Monday and revealed two banned substances the UFC star tested positive for.

According to the NSAC's complaint, an out-of-competition sample provided by Jones on June 16 tested positive for clomiphene, which is listed as an anti-estrogenic substance on the banned list, and traces of letrozole, an aromatase inhibitor, which works to prevent the synthesis of androgens such as testosterone into estroge

Fan of Sports with Integrity · « **Reply #51 on:** July 19, 2016, 10:32:13 PM »

www.podcastone.com/pg/jsp/program/episode.jsp?programID=706&pid=1664257

Malki Kawa went on Chael's show to talk about the Jon stuff, got p. heated.

Lord of The Curry · « **Reply #52 on:** July 20, 2016, 12:40:50 AM »

Compared Yomero to a rape victim......yeah. No.

ViciousFish · « **Reply #53 on:** July 20, 2016, 04:26:34 AM »

Mendes got 2 years for growth hormone peptides.

Firmino of the 909 · « **Reply #54 on:** July 20, 2016, 04:27:06 AM »

Makes perfect sense for him to try that after he couldn't make it to the top when clean.

Fan of Sports with Integrity · « **Reply #55 on:** July 20, 2016, 04:34:09 AM »

These suspensions are crazy to me. They're good, but seeing top fighters like Mendes get banned for 2 years blows my mind.

Lord of The Curry · « **Reply #56 on:** July 20, 2016, 05:55:17 AM »

He should just ask for a contract termination and fight overseas.

Just Call Me Dan · « **Reply #57 on:** July 20, 2016, 08:19:14 AM »

That's great if you don't plan on fighting in the UFC ever again. You wont get licensed upon your return.

Lord of The Curry · « **Reply #58 on:** July 20, 2016, 08:23:40 AM »

He'll be 34 when his suspension is up and will have been in the game for 10 years, 0-3 in title shots. Why not go over to Asia where they don't give a fuck and make stupid bank for the rest of your career?

ViciousFish · « **Reply #59 on:** July 20, 2016, 08:25:19 AM »

Quote from: Lord of The Curry on July 20, 2016, 05:55:17 AM

He should just ask for a contract termination and fight overseas.

Why bother with suspensions then? Just fire them.

It used to be "The UFC doesn't do enough about PEDs" and now it's "They should stop suspending fighters". You can't have it both ways. Mendes knew the risks. He decided the risks were worth it. He got caught. If he's not punished, they may as well scrap the project.

Firmino of the 909 · « **Reply #60 on:** July 20, 2016, 08:26:20 AM »

I'm glad the UFC suspended this roided manlet and he should be forced to live with it.

Full Cycle Mendes against Mystic Mac would have been fun though.

Lord of The Curry · « **Reply #61 on:** July 20, 2016, 08:31:44 AM »

Brock vs Mir III in ONE. It just hit me.

Fan of Sports with Integrity · « **Reply #62 on:** July 20, 2016, 08:34:19 AM »

Tim Sylvia can fight the winner.

Lord of The Curry · « **Reply #63 on:** July 20, 2016, 08:35:15 AM »

Mir/Lensar/Sylvia/Vera four man tournament for the HW title. Would watch.

Fan of Sports with Integrity · « **Reply #64 on:** July 20, 2016, 08:37:49 AM »

BRING ON FEDOR NOWWWW

Firmino of the 909 · « **Reply #65 on:** July 20, 2016, 08:38:41 AM »

The best podcast in the biz right here.

Fan of Sports with Integrity · « **Reply #66 on:** July 21, 2016, 04:58:31 AM »

ohhhh sheeeiiit

Firmino of the 909 · « **Reply #67 on:** July 21, 2016, 05:02:09 AM »

BAH GAWD

AA484 · « **Reply #68 on:** July 21, 2016, 05:02:49 AM »

I don't get it

Firmino of the 909 · « **Reply #69 on:** July 21, 2016, 05:04:20 AM »

He would have to be tested for months before coming back.

Even though he claimed he was retired, obviously he isn't or they wouldn't be allowed to test him and he wouldn't give them his pee.

AA484 · « **Reply #70 on:** July 21, 2016, 05:05:38 AM »

Ok, that's what I was thinking but I had no idea he was thinking of coming back.

Fan of Sports with Integrity · « **Reply #71 on:** July 21, 2016, 09:42:16 AM »

Quote from: real media guy on July 16, 2016, 12:05:36 AM

lot of truth bombs in this about USADA.

https://mobile.twitter.com/InaFem/status/756211381746147328

Are you fucking kidding me

Firmino of the 909 · « **Reply #72 on:** July 21, 2016, 09:48:15 AM »

Yeah, that's what they do man. That's how they took down Lance Armstrong. He never tested positive, but everyone knew he was on shit as a result of their work so eventually he had to admit it.

If Mirko snitched on another fighter they would follow that fighter around and attempt to render them completely unable to cheat. They use tips and monitor discussion on internet forums about how fighters look to decide who gets tested the most. That's what the UFC hired them for. These guys will do literally whatever it takes to make the sport clean. Everyone this Jeff Novitzky has investigated has been found to be dirty.

Fan of Sports with Integrity · « **Reply #73 on:** July 21, 2016, 10:25:13 AM »

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/7/21/12250870/source-skin-cream-triggered-chad-mendes-positive-usada-drug-test-mma-ufc-news

ViciousFish · « **Reply #74 on:** July 21, 2016, 10:28:16 AM »

I guess it's no worse than dick pills.

Firmino of the 909 · « **Reply #75 on:** July 21, 2016, 10:35:30 AM »

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These purposes can include increased fat loss, improved muscle gain when used in combination with anabolic steroids, cosmetic improvement of the skin, and improved healing from injury.

Very natural to be skeptical of his claim.

Fan of Sports with Integrity · « **Reply #76 on:** July 21, 2016, 02:01:52 PM »

Well that USADA stuff is just good detective work I guess, and Cro Cop probably asked other people to do similar stuff when he was an actual Cro Cop.

Fan of Sports with Integrity · « **Reply #77 on:** July 21, 2016, 02:03:26 PM »

Damn thinking about it, imagine there being a prime anti-terrorist cro cop badass in 2016 kicking people's heads off. I'd love to have vignettes during PPV's where he's not fighting where he's sending ISIS dudes to the cemetery.

Lord of The Curry · « **Reply #78 on:** July 22, 2016, 12:48:08 AM »

George Sullivan got pulled from his fight on the Fox card this weekend due to a precaution, no actual positive test yet but jesus christ I feel bad for him and his opponent that you get yanked three days out.

ViciousFish · « **Reply #79 on:** July 22, 2016, 06:55:48 AM »

Jones' brother got suspended by the NFL for a PED violation.

Fan of Sports with Integrity · « **Reply #80 on:** August 11, 2016, 03:37:28 AM »

http://www.flocombat.com/article/44880-chael-sonnen-we-didn-t-need-a-test-to-tell-us-anything-about-brock

chael's test came back clean btw, he expects to fight in 2016.

Lord of The Curry · « **Reply #81 on:** August 11, 2016, 03:39:49 AM »

FRB is saying UFC wants Chael vs Nick at MSG. I usually take his stuff with a grain of salt but given that he's Chael's unofficial manager I tend to buy it.

Firmino of the 909 · « **Reply #82 on:** August 11, 2016, 03:49:07 AM »

Nick taps him.

HSJ · « **Reply #83 on:** August 11, 2016, 03:52:08 AM »

That is a fight I didn't know I wanted to see until now.

Lord of The Curry · « **Reply #84 on:** August 11, 2016, 04:01:15 AM »

The pre-fight trash talk will be better then the actual fight. Guaranteed.

Fan of Sports with Integrity · « **Reply #85 on:** August 11, 2016, 04:02:12 AM »

those are the best kinds. It's weird to me because they've trained together a lot, like each other, and Chael does business with them by promoting Diaz bros gear.

It should be pointed out that we always wonder about the "USADA effect" and speculate as to why guys look different. But we KNOW Chael was on like 20 different PED's, so it's not a matter of if he'll look different so much as how much. I'll say VERY different.

Lord of The Curry · « **Reply #86 on:** August 15, 2016, 03:39:16 AM »

“How's it going Jones Bones supporters? if there are any of you guys still out there...

Just wanted to take a few seconds to say hello to you all and to give you a little update on how I've been doing. Been doing really good. Been training, spending time with family, attacking some of these legal issues that I've gotten myself into and trying to really just leave all that behind once and for all.

Sure you guys are curious about with this USADA situation. Obviously, I can't get into it because it’s still pending but, what I can say is that that we have found out lots of really good news and I am expecting to be back in the octagon really soon. Thank you guys for your support. Love you guys and I hope you're spending this Sunday with the people that you love.

Alright, be good and hope to see you guys really soon. Bye.”

Posted to his Instagram.

Fan of Sports with Integrity · « **Reply #87 on:** August 15, 2016, 03:42:10 AM »

BAH GAWD BONES PRIVILEGE STRIKES AGAIN

Lord of The Curry · « **Reply #88 on:** August 16, 2016, 06:01:09 AM »

"White: I don't know if this is public, it's looking like Jon Jones did *not* take drug everyone thought he took. Says "could look good."

Meltzer broke this on WON last night and other outlets are now covering it.

HSJ · « **Reply #89 on:** August 16, 2016, 08:02:38 AM »

What does that even mean

Lord of The Curry · « **Reply #90 on:** August 16, 2016, 08:06:57 AM »

False positive test is my best guess.

HSJ · « **Reply #91 on:** August 16, 2016, 08:08:56 AM »

So USADA messed up and they cancelled the main event of the biggest PPV of all time for no reason?

Lord of The Curry · « **Reply #92 on:** August 16, 2016, 08:11:24 AM »

If so and I'm Jones I'm suing the motherfuck out of USADA. And if I'm Cormier I'm doing the same because his payout against Anderson was less then what he was going to make against Bones.

Firmino of the 909 · « **Reply #93 on:** August 16, 2016, 08:12:54 AM »

I don't believe this or buy this story.

Lord of The Curry · « **Reply #94 on:** August 16, 2016, 08:16:42 AM »

That's because you want everyone to be on steroids.

(60% kidding)

Firmino of the 909 · « **Reply #95 on:** August 16, 2016, 08:18:29 AM »

Everyone has also found ways to bend the rules so much for this guy that it's inherently fishy.

Lord of The Curry · « **Reply #96 on:** August 16, 2016, 08:40:50 AM »

So you buy that Jones might come back but think he's getting a pass?

Firmino of the 909 · « **Reply #97 on:** August 16, 2016, 10:29:00 AM »

It's possible. Tainted supplement may be the claim perhaps.

jimmy no nose · « **Reply #98 on:** August 16, 2016, 09:47:11 PM »

Dana's full statement makes it pretty clear that it's a tainted supplement defense. Actually it seems like an incredibly shaky tainted supplement defense and I can't believe he's even buying it.

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“Well, it’s coming back now that it looks like he did not take the supplement that everybody thought he took. We’ll see how this thing plays out.”

“I don’t even know if this is public. I didn’t know if I can talk about it. Normally, I talk about anything, but when it comes to medical stuff, you can’t do it. It’s looking like Jon Jones did not take the drug everybody thought he took. It looks like it’s something else.”

“I’ll let this thing play out and if that’s true and that’s what USADA and the Nevada State Athletic Commission say happened, it could look good for Jon Jones.”

“He didn’t get a bum wrap. He definitely didn’t get a bum wrap, but the substance that he was on, it was a pill that you take when you’re coming off of steroids. But this thing is apparently in other things. Jon took something else.”

“Where he doesn’t come off clean is you have to tell USADA everything that you put in your body leading up to the fight and he did not.”

So basically he's trying to say he took some supplement that happens to have the substance he popped for in it, but conveniently didn't tell USADA he took that supplement ahead of time like he was supposed to. So it's entirely possible that his team searched far and wide until they found some supplement that would have the substance he popped for in it and then claimed that's what he took. Of course there's no way of verifying that because he didn't report it to USADA. I can't see how that defense would hold up.

Lord of The Curry · « **Reply #99 on:** August 17, 2016, 01:47:12 AM »

Even assuming he comes back Cormier has said that the winner of Glover/Rumble is next. If anything I could see Jones coming back at HW because I'm pretty sure if DC has his way Jones will never get a title shot again after what he put him through.

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Author Topic: Basically the Jon Jones Steroid Thread (Read 10561 times)