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Offline jimmy no nose

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All of the MMA reporters who have commented seem to think Conor is just messing with everyone and nothing has actually changed.

Offline Lord of The Curry

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Yeah as of right now his tweet is the only source but it's enough that mainstream media has picked it up and is treating it as legit.

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This is totally unrelated news for Conor but in terms of Ireland-related stuff, shitty news as Paddy Holohan has been forced to retire from mma due to medical issues. Sucks as 125 needs fresh talent and the guy always put on fun fights. At least he went out headlining a show in his home town in a wild fight.

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I can't believe a guy can be that big, and jump around like he does what a great athlete!

Offline Lord of The Curry

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At this point you have to look at this situation and believe that the UFC is holding the cards. Comes off as a desperate final attempt by Conor IMO. Like Eddie Alvarez said from a short-term financial perspective it'd make sense by UFC to cave but long-term it sets a dangerous precedent.

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At this point you have to look at this situation and believe that the UFC is holding the cards. Comes off as a desperate final attempt by Conor IMO. Like Eddie Alvarez said from a short-term financial perspective it'd make sense by UFC to cave but long-term it sets a dangerous precedent.

Agreed, Conor tweeting that out makes him look desperate. I think Jones/Cormier will make up a lot of the buyrates lost with Conor not being there so his leverage has been hurt. Also, it seems like most fans are willing to move on without him.


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Offline Lord of The Curry

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I dunno about DC/Jones happening. Even if Cormier was willing to risk coming back two months earlier then projected the fact that Jones went and sat down in a wheelchair after the fight on Saturday is, to me, symbolic of his support for Conor as he has been one of the more vocal guys. I think the wheelchair thing was Bones sending a message to the UFC.

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Offline Firmino of the 909

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The UFC always thinks they hold the cards, even in situations where they don't. For Conor to get back on this card I think he'd have to give up a lot of money or vacate his belt. At the same time, given his golden boy status no longer exists to them, maybe they feel he has to defend his belt now no matter what, or that he should have to fight somebody like Khabib at 155. He severely overplayed his hand.

Look what happened to Randy when he came back. Put him straight in a fight with Brock. When somebody fucks with the UFC, history shows they give no fucks.


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Offline Fökai

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I read that Khabib has already turned down a fight at 200 because it conflicts with Ramadan.

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yeah, but 209 probably meant that they would make that fight at some other date and keep Conor off of UFC 200.


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Offline Firmino of the 909

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The UFC also now has UFC 198 and 200, Conor return, Nick Diaz return, Nate fight, MSG show, and another slew of title fights remaining this year that could draw big money (Lawler/Condit 2, for one). That's why it seems like they aren't too bothered by this. They now have more big shows coming up than is normal for them.


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Offline Lord of The Curry

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I haven't read the article but some dude at ESPN did "the math" and calculated that Conor being off the card will cost UFC at minimum 45 million. I have my doubts.

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45 million is their cut from PPV sales if they sold 1.5 million. So yeah, no.


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White told ESPN that the first McGregor-Diaz fight (UFC 196) did 1.5 million pay-per-view buys. Now compare that to Jon Jones-Daniel Cormier, which seemed to be the alternative for the main event at UFC 200. The first go-around of that fight did 800,000 buys, at least according to Cormier.

Because there's no other fight on the card who would draw any other outside interest -- Ronda Rousey, after losing to Holly Holm, was quickly discounted -- it's all about McGregor.

Let's conservatively say the difference between McGregor-Diaz II and Jones-Cormier II is 500,000 buys. If we believe White's numbers for UFC 196, plus we give that number a sharp 25 percent haircut given that McGregor lost to Diaz in early March, we're still at 525,000 more buys. At $70 a pop, that's $36.7 million in additional gross revenue to the UFC.

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With McGregor back on the card, expect ticket prices to top that of 196 and expect attendance to be just as good. Assuming that, a live gate number of $10 million is achievable. Without McGregor, there's no way that much of a price jump can be justified, plus we'd expect to see empty seats. Difference to the live gate is then roughly $7 million. Throw in another $800,000 for additional merchandise royalties and concession revenue with more butts in the seats.


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For UFC 200, the organization is having a fan fest, charging $45, $65 and $75 for one-, two- and three-day tickets. If McGregor isn't fighting, figure the hang-around crowd for this is 10,000 fewer people. That's another half-million dollars, which pushes the McGregor bump-up to $45 million.

Now his estimates for the PPV buyrates are wrong (obviously because they don't keep 100% of revenue), but he didn't account for the overall financial impact to Vegas that Conor would bring. He doesn't play with the same set of fans that other fighters do. I can believe a reasonable number being placed at around $25 million.

The difference between a McGregor/Diaz rematch on top and a Jones/DC rematch on top could be a million buys this time around.


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I don't know by how much but while there would be a significant difference, Nate Diaz is a big piece of that. Conor vs. Edgar or Aldo or Holloway wouldn't do nearly as much business.


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Offline Firmino of the 909

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Nate is going on vacation. So that's that.


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I imagine UFC tries a hail mary attempt to book GSP and if not says fuck it. Wonder if they'll spite Conor by stripping him and making Aldo/Edgar 2 for his belt. Gotta believe that'll be the new main event.

 


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I think Conor and Nate will fight in late August or early September. The UFC makes more money this way and Conor won't have to promote the show very much because it isn't UFC 200.

But after Conor loses that, if he tries another power play the UFC will bench his ass until he's too broke to disagree with them.


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I get than Conor would pop a bigger ppv buy. But from a fight perspective I'd much rather see Jones/DC 2

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Re: McGregor off UFC 200
« Reply #121 on: April 26, 2016, 03:37:34 AM »
Ariel tweeted that there's going to be an announcement today regarding the main event. Figure it's DC/Jones, Cormier was supposed to find out from his doctors this week if he'll be good to go, imagine he got confirmation. Either that or the GSP deal happened and it's Rush/Lawler.

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Re: McGregor off UFC 200
« Reply #122 on: April 27, 2016, 12:35:25 AM »
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Jon Jones will fight Daniel Cormier in a light heavyweight unification title bout at UFC 200, as first reported during a telecast of Good Morning America on Wednesday. The fight will headline the July 9 card in Las Vegas, at the brand new T-Mobile Arena.

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Re: McGregor off UFC 200
« Reply #123 on: April 27, 2016, 12:41:22 AM »
If all those title fights go the distance....man. I'm going to have to pace my drinking like never before.

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Re: McGregor off UFC 200
« Reply #124 on: April 27, 2016, 08:24:03 AM »
Tate finishes Nunes in the second round, I think. Nunes doesn't have the cardio to keep up with Miesha for long.




In this video, Kavanagh acts like the UFC can't or won't keep Conor off the MSG card. I really think that both Conor and his team are in way over their head and don't understand exactly what it is that they've done by signing up for this fight and not going on the press tour. They seem to be living in this alternate reality. The belief that the UFC will ever cater to Conor again is an incredible one. I'd be shocked if Conor was on any of the big showcase events anytime soon. I'd be even more shocked if the UFC ever paid for him to be on their private plane or live that high life again either. Or if Conor was ever paid more money than is explicitly laid out in his contract. The UFC will also not let Conor out of his contract without ruining his career on the way there, given he's both bound by the champion's clause and certainly has a lot of fights remaining on his deal. Conor talked a big game and all that, he's about to face a murderer's row of competition as a result.


Of course the UFC is wrong for doing this, and it isn't right, but he's going to get the kind of treatment that they gave Tito Ortiz and Rampage. Literally the most unfavorable matchups that exist for the entire remaining duration of Conor's contract. Hope they're ready. Given it was Conor's relationship with the Fertittas that fell apart, I don't think there's any way of repairing that. It's not like he had a problem with Dana.


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Re: McGregor off UFC 200
« Reply #125 on: April 27, 2016, 08:33:32 AM »
The buy rate of 200 will ultimately decide who wins this. Conor and Nate did 1.5 million buys. I see 200 topping out at about 800,000. There's nothing on there to grab the casual fans.

If 200 tops a million Conor loses power. If 200 does poorly, his position strengthens.
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Re: McGregor off UFC 200
« Reply #126 on: April 27, 2016, 08:38:17 AM »
I think Tate's victory over Holm carries a lot of weight with casual fans. Given Jones/DC 1 did 800k with a trash undercard and this will have 2 other title fights plus a Cain fight, I think they'll pull 1.2 million at minimum for this. The thing is, they also have two shows in the days before. Will that tire people out? I'll order this show for sure, all of the fights on it are interesting to me.

They're also still missing one main card fight, I wonder what it's going to be. PVZ will also be somewhere on this, maybe that's the main card fight. Get those Dancing With the Stars fan goofs to order it.

Conor will be back in the fall regardless, and headlining a show regardless, but not a centerpiece show and he'll be given the toughest fight they can think up. He ain't gonna get any fights with guys like Donald Cerrone going forward, that's for sure.


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Re: McGregor off UFC 200
« Reply #127 on: April 27, 2016, 08:41:27 AM »
PVZ could drag in casuals. But the huge buy rates come from Conor, Ronda and Brock.

Maybe I'll be proven wrong. I hope I'm not though. Not that the guys on the card don't deserve a huge buy rate but this is another one of those things where Conor getting his way will be better for fighters in the long run.
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Re: McGregor off UFC 200
« Reply #128 on: April 27, 2016, 08:47:24 AM »
I'm not sure Conor's version of things send the right message. I'm hugely in favor of higher fighter pay, but part of achieving that lies in remaining highly accessible to media requests as fighters do now. For the highest paid guy in the UFC to make these kinds of requests doesn't really sit right with me.


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Re: McGregor off UFC 200
« Reply #129 on: April 27, 2016, 08:49:12 AM »
If you want guys to do insane media tours, pay them. They do all their publicity stuff for free.
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Re: McGregor off UFC 200
« Reply #130 on: April 27, 2016, 08:57:15 AM »
The fighters who don't get PPV points should definitely be paid for PR appearances, but Conor's pay is directly tied to the interest he generates through promoting his fights. The more he promotes, the more people buy them and the more he gets paid.

On top of that, his stand isn't about paying fighters for publicity. He doesn't want to be paid for it either. It's that he doesn't want to do it, everyone else on UFC 200 is a bum, and he's the whole show so he should be able to do whatever he wants. He's not standing up for the other fighters at all, it's out of nothing but selfishness under the guise of needing to prepare for a fight that no longer exists.


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Re: McGregor off UFC 200
« Reply #131 on: April 27, 2016, 09:35:41 AM »
His stand is that he doesn't want to do it. Dana's stand is "Do it because we say so". If they actually paid him to do these appearances they'd have a little bit more of a leg to stand on.
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Re: McGregor off UFC 200
« Reply #132 on: April 27, 2016, 10:12:16 AM »
Dana has literally nothing to do with a decision of this magnitude imo.


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Re: McGregor off UFC 200
« Reply #133 on: April 27, 2016, 10:16:16 AM »
Ok, it's the Fertitta's stance as well. I don't work for free. I don't expect them to.
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Re: McGregor off UFC 200
« Reply #134 on: April 27, 2016, 10:40:26 AM »
Don't underestimate the UFC PR machine either. To this day there are still dipshits that hate on Tito and buy into the 'coward' narrative instead of realizing that he just knew his worth.

They are willing to throw their own guys under the bus if it means saving the brand. I also think they'll force him to defend the belt before he takes any other fight.


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Re: McGregor off UFC 200
« Reply #135 on: April 28, 2016, 12:33:42 AM »
I think Tate's victory over Holm carries a lot of weight with casual fans. Given Jones/DC 1 did 800k with a trash undercard and this will have 2 other title fights plus a Cain fight, I think they'll pull 1.2 million at minimum for this. The thing is, they also have two shows in the days before. Will that tire people out? I'll order this show for sure, all of the fights on it are interesting to me.

They're also still missing one main card fight, I wonder what it's going to be. PVZ will also be somewhere on this, maybe that's the main card fight. Get those Dancing With the Stars fan goofs to order it.

Conor will be back in the fall regardless, and headlining a show regardless, but not a centerpiece show and he'll be given the toughest fight they can think up. He ain't gonna get any fights with guys like Donald Cerrone going forward, that's for sure.

For what it's worth I think we'll see Paige end up on the TUF Finale card. It might be too much to expect casual fans to tune into a ppv just for her but it'd be an easy sell to place her on free tv especially given that it's a womens title fight in the main.

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Re: McGregor off UFC 200
« Reply #136 on: May 01, 2016, 12:46:00 AM »
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/mcgregor-campaigning-for-rematch.3237541/

man the sherdog dummies have already turned on Conor. Look at the amount of likes for all the anti-Conor posts.


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Re: McGregor off UFC 200
« Reply #137 on: May 01, 2016, 01:12:51 AM »
https://www.reddit.com/r/MMA/comments/4h8o8p/conor_mcgregor_on_instagram/

same with this link, Conor might have overestimated his cache with the fanbase. Also, their interest in labour rights for the (formerly) most coddled millionaire in the UFC.


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Re: McGregor off UFC 200
« Reply #138 on: May 01, 2016, 05:07:26 AM »
It's also all the shit about how nobody wants to see these other fights that's particularly grating on people. It's so arrogant, so moronic, and really deluded. I'd rather watch that Rory vs. Wonderboy fight than anything Conor could ever be in going forward.


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Re: McGregor off UFC 200
« Reply #139 on: May 02, 2016, 04:52:06 AM »
Same

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Re: McGregor off UFC 200
« Reply #140 on: May 02, 2016, 08:01:08 AM »
@NateDiaz209
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Re: McGregor off UFC 200
« Reply #142 on: May 06, 2016, 12:34:09 AM »
you guys hear about the mayweather vs mcgregor fight

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Re: McGregor off UFC 200
« Reply #143 on: May 06, 2016, 12:49:13 AM »
No. Did you?

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Re: McGregor off UFC 200
« Reply #144 on: May 06, 2016, 01:05:20 AM »
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Report-Conor-McGregor-Floyd-Mayweather-Jr-Boxing-Match-in-the-Works-104533

So I guess he figures if he couldn't beat Nate in stand-up he'd have a chance against one of the GOAT's.  Conor needs to just go away for a while.

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Re: McGregor off UFC 200
« Reply #145 on: May 06, 2016, 01:28:17 AM »
Well that's some clickbait if I ever done seen it.

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Re: McGregor off UFC 200
« Reply #146 on: May 06, 2016, 01:38:52 AM »
Isn't the Sun like the British version of the Enquirer?

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Re: McGregor off UFC 200
« Reply #147 on: May 06, 2016, 01:43:06 AM »
Ariel has said how fucking regarded that is without actually saying its fucking retarded.
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Re: McGregor off UFC 200
« Reply #148 on: May 06, 2016, 02:17:02 AM »
Well that's some clickbait if I ever done seen it.

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The UFC nor McGregor have yet to comment on the report, but it seems extremely unlikely that the Irishman’s contract with the mixed martial arts promoter would allow the contest to take place.

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Re: McGregor off UFC 200
« Reply #149 on: May 06, 2016, 02:20:38 AM »