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« on: July 30, 2009, 04:17:48 PM »
http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/audio/id.8315/title.eminem-the-warning-mariah-carey-nick-cannon-diss


New shit Em just put out.

Oh my fucking shit.   This is so fucking serious.

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« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2009, 04:35:03 PM »
These are people in their late thirties.

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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2009, 04:43:32 PM »
Uhhh...  Eminem is 36 (mid 30's), Mariah Carey is 39 (late 30's), and nick cannon is 28 (late 20's).    What does age have anything to do with this?

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« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2009, 05:50:51 PM »
I don't know, I though Eminem was mature now that he got off the drugs.  And I thought he stopped calling people faggots.  Seems a little high schoolish to me.

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« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2009, 05:52:06 PM »
You're never too old to ether someone.

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« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2009, 06:35:21 PM »
You're never too old to ether someone.

This is the truth.

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« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2009, 09:34:11 PM »
This "beef" is so sad. Em needs to grow up. He has made three tracks about Mariah. And her one is better than his three. The whole Shady/Aftermath style of forever beefing is getting completely played out.

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« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2009, 09:40:05 PM »
This "beef" is so sad. Em needs to grow up. He has made three tracks about Mariah. And her one is better than his three. The whole Shady/Aftermath style of forever beefing is getting completely played out.

You must be out of your mothafuckin' mind.

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« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2009, 11:31:27 PM »
Oh my fucking shit.   This is so fucking serious.
This is the opposite of "fucking serious."

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« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2009, 02:35:13 AM »
The only kinda good thing to come out of any of this is Gucci Mane's appearance on the "Obsessed" remix. Well, I guess Mariah's tits are kinda nice in the video, too.

edit: I'm listening to that Eminem song now and it's pathetic. Eminem sucks.

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« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2009, 02:43:05 AM »
Three things that are guaranteed when Em drops a diss track:

1. Geeked out white boys jizzing all over themselves

2. "Em killed him/her!"

3. People proclaiming Em as the best rapper alive

Sorry, Jaxxxson, I've would have liked this better 9 years ago, when I was a sophomore in high school. I kinda wish he would grow and realize that he had his chance with Mariah in 2004. Nothing like a beef with Nick Canon. White Boy please.

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« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2009, 03:15:17 AM »
"Mariah Carey and Nick Cannon Diss"

Read that again, and then kill yourself if you got excited.

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« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2009, 03:20:56 AM »
It doesn't help that it was a horrible song too.

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« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2009, 03:24:16 AM »
No, the diss track was pretty good.

And all the geeked out white boys here are saying it sucks.

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« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2009, 03:32:52 AM »
No, the diss track was pretty good.

And all the geeked out white boys here are saying it sucks.
I'm pretty sure that you don't have to be a "geeked out white boy" to know when something sounds awful. Face it, Eminem is old news and over the hill and that at this point, only "geeked out white boys" seem to come to his defense.

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« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2009, 03:34:06 AM »
I was referring to still flys post.

And he isn't over the hill nor old news. His most recent album is a good one, and it sold like crazy.

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« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2009, 03:42:22 AM »
Standing up on it's own, it's a decent track. Nothing close to his best, but decent. But going on 24 years old now, I feel like I've grown out of Eminem's shtick. Beefing with pop stars is so 2000.

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« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2009, 03:52:15 AM »
Motion to merge this thread into "oh my god, what is this"

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« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2009, 04:09:46 AM »
I'll second that.

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« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2009, 04:17:46 AM »
Thirded.

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« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2009, 04:30:41 AM »
Fourthed.

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« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2009, 04:36:54 AM »
I don't think this can be emphasized enough: if you are in any way impressed by this bullshit, you should take a good, hard look at yourself and think about the decisions you've made in your life that brought you to this point. The mouthbreathers who eat this shit up, not to mention the emotionally retarded people responsible for it, make it hard (sometimes) to defend rap as a credible genre of music.

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« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2009, 04:48:23 AM »
Why must everything be taken so seriously? This isn't what HIP HOP is all about, but it's funny. It's like a roast, except meaner.

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« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2009, 04:49:06 AM »
Y'know what I wish would've materialized? A feud between Eminem and Weird Al.

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« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2009, 04:53:26 AM »
I'm amazed he hasn't tried to feud with Miley Cyrus at this point.

Why must everything be taken so seriously? This isn't what HIP HOP is all about, but it's funny. It's like a roast, except meaner.
But feuds like Jay-Z vs. Nas were from two talented rappers and have good reason for being remembered. This is just from a guy going through the same angry clown routine that's been done to death. As Inc said, this kind of shit is embarrassing to Hip Hop.

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« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2009, 05:00:19 AM »
Radiohead beat him to it.

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« Reply #26 on: July 31, 2009, 05:06:38 AM »
I'm amazed he hasn't tried to feud with Miley Cyrus at this point.

Why must everything be taken so seriously? This isn't what HIP HOP is all about, but it's funny. It's like a roast, except meaner.
But feuds like Jay-Z vs. Nas were from two talented rappers and have good reason for being remembered. This is just from a guy going through the same angry clown routine that's been done to death. As Inc said, this kind of shit is embarrassing to Hip Hop.

Not really. She came out with a song about him, so he came out with a song about her. He's just doing it the way he knows how. Dude started off doing this type of shit when he got into rap, as a kid. It's what he knows. He's not going to write an essay saying why he hates Mariah. And he's too emotional to not say anything. Apparently Mariah really left her mark on him back when they were going out. So what? It doesn't have to be compared to Nas and Jay Z. Jay Z was nearly 40 when he came out with Takeover. Who gives a shit who it's against. At least Eminem is a good rapper, so it sounds alright.

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« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2009, 05:15:22 AM »
Jay-Z was barely over 30 when he recorded "The Takeover," but that's neither here nor there.

I suppose we should give Eminem credit for moving on from trash-talking foul-mouthed dog puppets to letting real-live human beings know that they're faggots. What a great talent and mind this man has.

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« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2009, 05:16:29 AM »
This song is fucking garbage.

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« Reply #29 on: July 31, 2009, 05:17:49 AM »
Well he is talented.

Unless you count the ICP as trash talking dog foul mouthed puppets, he never feuded with Triumph.

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« Reply #30 on: July 31, 2009, 05:18:56 AM »
The only good thing I can say about it is that at least he's not using one of his stupid voices.

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« Reply #31 on: July 31, 2009, 05:19:41 AM »
Didn't the old board invade the Eminem forums, or was it D12?

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« Reply #32 on: July 31, 2009, 05:19:56 AM »
Honest to god question but was Eminem ever popular with hipsters---even in an ironic sense? I vaguely recall it happening when 8 Mile came out and probably ended sometime before Encore.

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« Reply #33 on: July 31, 2009, 05:21:21 AM »
Well, if you look through this thread you'd see he's not popular with them now.

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« Reply #34 on: July 31, 2009, 05:23:37 AM »
Well duh!!!

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« Reply #35 on: July 31, 2009, 05:24:46 AM »
I like the first two albums quite a bit, or at least I did last time I checked.  I haven't listened to either of them in 4 or 5 years.  Everything else he's done ranges from unremarkable to garbage.  His shtick was compelling and he was a very good rapper, but he never evolved.

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« Reply #36 on: July 31, 2009, 05:28:43 AM »
I'd say he changed a bit in Eminem Show.

He experiment with a new flow in Encore. Encore sucked. But Relapse is more of the older stuff, like Slim Shady LP, except with a better flow. If you get past the stupid voices, he's still really good. His content was never great. He tries different styles and flows, and does them well. My Darling, which wasn't one of the first 20 tracks is a pretty cool song, something out of the ordinary.

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« Reply #37 on: July 31, 2009, 05:31:30 AM »
I'd say he changed a bit in Eminem Show.

Where he dissed Moby. I know, I know, Moby started it or whatever, but a feud with fucking Moby? Really?

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« Reply #38 on: July 31, 2009, 05:33:30 AM »
A throwaway line on a poppy song to sell the CD is now a feud with Moby? Listen to the album.

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« Reply #39 on: July 31, 2009, 05:35:18 AM »
I like the first two albums quite a bit, or at least I did last time I checked.  I haven't listened to either of them in 4 or 5 years.  Everything else he's done ranges from unremarkable to garbage.  His shtick was compelling and he was a very good rapper, but he never evolved.

Pretty much my sentiment as well. Listening to 2Pac's albums he recorded when he was alive, there at least some sort of growth in his progression as an artist. 2Pacaplyse Now and The 7 Day Theory sound and feel nothing alike. If you played all of Eminen's albums in a row, other than different production techniques, he's subject matter ranges from drugs, faggots, his mother and daughter and pop star beefs. Not exactly what I call maturing.

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« Reply #40 on: July 31, 2009, 05:39:49 AM »
White America, Soldier, Square Dance, Sing for the Moment, When the Music Stops (D12), Till I Collapse (probably my favorite song), the last verse of My Dad's Gone Crazy is sick, are free of any of that stuff. Like singing about your daughter is so horrible. What a fucking douchebag.

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« Reply #41 on: July 31, 2009, 09:41:32 AM »
I don't know why I talk about rap/hip-hop on this forum because it is painfully clear most of you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. 

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« Reply #42 on: July 31, 2009, 09:44:39 AM »
I'd never even fucking heard of Nick Cannon before this thread

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« Reply #43 on: July 31, 2009, 09:45:41 AM »
I'd never even fucking heard of Nick Cannon before this thread

He has made a couple of movies and was on Nickelodeon for something and then went to MTV with his show "Wild'n Out" and I think he made a couple CDs.   His most famous song was "gigalo".

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« Reply #44 on: July 31, 2009, 09:51:46 AM »
I don't know why I talk about rap/hip-hop on this forum because it is painfully clear most of you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. 
Do I have to do the thing where I list all the rap I do like and think is wonderful now to prove my street cred.

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« Reply #45 on: July 31, 2009, 09:56:02 AM »
I don't know why I talk about rap/hip-hop on this forum because it is painfully clear most of you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. 
Do I have to do the thing where I list all the rap I do like and think is wonderful now to prove my street cred.

Only if you cannot admit that this was a great diss track.   Take away who it was aimed at and look at it from that perspective.   It was great.   Eminem has said before, "Boy girl dog woman man child
I'll shit on you"  It doesn't matter who is trying to get at him, he will shit on them.  If you can really sit there and say that Eminem is not a good lyricist and rapper, you really need to give up listening to hip-hop/rap and just admit you know nothing about this form of music.

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« Reply #46 on: July 31, 2009, 09:58:00 AM »
I don't know why I talk about rap/hip-hop on this forum because it is painfully clear most of you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. 
Do I have to do the thing where I list all the rap I do like and think is wonderful now to prove my street cred.
Don't bother. Nobody's got more street cred than the Hoosier Wigger.

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« Reply #47 on: July 31, 2009, 09:59:36 AM »
It's not as if Hova has been doing much better in his old age. His collab with Weezy was tight, but he's really fallen off on the whole.

I liked some of American Gangster at least.
met this fat girl (not a huge whale or anything but like 25-26 BMI) at a club in like,,, 2008....shes cool, not my type but giant hooters....we start drinkin gettin real faded, and she takes me out to her car to smoke some dro.....im high as fuck and point blank shes just like "hey man i am down to blow you........" im like whatever and we try but my dick wasnt workin cuz i was so faded and this fuckin weed she had was like....fuck i just couldnt get my head in the game..but im rico suave and i get her digits and she texts me her address the next day and says "come over to get ur cock sucked and blow a load in my perm"

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« Reply #48 on: July 31, 2009, 10:01:46 AM »
As somebody who has been listening to the genre longer than many of you have been alive, and as somebody who was once a big fan of Eminem's music- I wouldn't wipe my ass with his new CD.

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« Reply #49 on: July 31, 2009, 10:02:12 AM »
I was about to list "Yeezy, Weezy and Hov" in that thread about words that shouldn't be said again.  I could have averted that Cyber Mark post.