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MMA General Discussion 2019
« on: January 03, 2017, 11:25:59 PM »
UFC has signed former WSOF flyweight champ Magomed Bibulatov. Excellent pickup, probably the best 125'er they don't have on their roster at the moment.

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Re: MMA General Discussion 2017
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2017, 01:07:25 PM »
Perhaps the 10,000th person to notice this, but Fox News douche Brian Kelmeade is one of the roving reporters interviewing guys on the UFC 1 PPV

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Re: MMA General Discussion 2017
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2017, 02:36:47 AM »
I can't believe Khabib had to offer T-Ferg $200,000 of his own money. Good on T-Ferg to not take it though. I completely agree with his logic.
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Re: MMA General Discussion 2017
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2017, 03:02:05 AM »
$200,000 of a Balkan dictators money you mean.

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Re: MMA General Discussion 2017
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2017, 03:41:59 AM »
I can't believe Khabib had to offer T-Ferg $200,000 of his own money. Good on T-Ferg to not take it though. I completely agree with his logic.

I feel like fighters can throw out these kinds of offers knowing the other guy simply won't bite. How many "I'll fight for free" or "let's put up both our purses" haven been bantered about but nothing ever happened?

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Re: MMA General Discussion 2017
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2017, 03:26:01 AM »
https://www.reddit.com/r/MMA/comments/5n8sco/holly_holm_not_out_of_208_source_exposed_as_fraud/

Good look at just how easily mma "journalists" get played. Dizz has completely been discredited now, this isn't the first time he's broken news that turned out to be bullshit.

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Re: MMA General Discussion 2017
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2017, 04:53:11 PM »
Floyd Mayweather offered McGreggor $15m and PPV points to box him.  Said it's the only fight he wants

McGreggor should do it for the payday, but he'd get slaughtered

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Re: MMA General Discussion 2017
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2017, 11:59:22 PM »
McGregor can't do it. There's no way UFC lets him.
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Re: MMA General Discussion 2017
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2017, 08:37:00 AM »


Lotta likes for two Legends, the hashtag means Cody is a real fan

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Re: MMA General Discussion 2017
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2017, 11:25:00 PM »
Nick Diaz was offered Tyron Woodley at UFC 209 and turned it down because he wasn't getting paid enough.

Because fighters who haven't recorded a victory in over 5 years are in a position to call shots. SMDH.

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Re: MMA General Discussion 2017
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2017, 12:13:03 AM »
He's a draw and Woodley isn't.  He should play hardball

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Re: MMA General Discussion 2017
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2017, 12:16:51 AM »
He's a draw and Woodley isn't.  He should play hardball

That's how the game is played these days and the UFC encourages it.  I don't really blame him either.

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Re: MMA General Discussion 2017
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2017, 12:53:12 AM »
He's a draw and Woodley isn't.  He should play hardball

He's a draw? Outside of the GSP fight?

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Re: MMA General Discussion 2017
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2017, 01:32:43 AM »
The casual MMA fan knows the Diaz brothers.  They know Nick Diaz.  They don't know Tyron Woodley.  Maybe if he fights Nick and wins, or even if he loses, he becomes a bigger known name.  Nick is right to hold out for a bigger payday if he feels UFC is lowballing him

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Re: MMA General Discussion 2017
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2017, 01:56:32 AM »
Casual fans being aware of somebody does not = draw.

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Re: MMA General Discussion 2017
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2017, 02:55:28 AM »
Casual fans being aware of somebody does not = draw.
Indeed. I'm about as casual an MMA fan as there is on this board, and I ain't paying to see no Nick Diaz.

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Re: MMA General Discussion 2017
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2017, 02:59:04 AM »
Nick was a draw. Keyword being was. He's went too long without fighting.


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Re: MMA General Discussion 2017
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2017, 06:00:42 AM »
Who are the five biggest draws of the past several years?  I'd go with (in no particular order) McGregor, Rousey, Lesnar, GSP, Silva.

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Re: MMA General Discussion 2017
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2017, 06:07:59 AM »
I'd say that's about right. A quick glance at the top thirty on Tapology and pretty much all the fighters you listed are in there multiple times with the occasional Tito/Chuck/Jones show thrown in.

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« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2017, 06:19:17 AM »
I actually dug up my old "top draws" list.  I need to update it with this past calendar year but here is my top 10 of the decade through last year (I may have posted this before):

10. Daniel Cormier
9. Chael Sonnen
8. Cain Velasquez
7. Chris Weidman
6. Brock Lesnar
5. Conor McGregor
4. Anderson Silva
3. Jon Jones
2. Georges St-Pierre
1. Ronda Rousey

After the first six or so, it gets kind of arbitrary.  I went year-by-year and ranked guys (and gals) and then came up with a cumulative ranking.

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Re: MMA General Discussion 2017
« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2017, 06:42:10 AM »
Cormier/Cain/Chael over Tito and Chuck? No way.

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Re: MMA General Discussion 2017
« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2017, 05:14:23 PM »
List is only for this decade.

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« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2017, 05:14:37 AM »
McGreGOAT, Lousey, then everyone else

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Re: MMA General Discussion 2017
« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2017, 05:23:18 AM »
Blackzilians has folded.


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Re: MMA General Discussion 2017
« Reply #25 on: January 16, 2017, 05:34:09 AM »
Not shocking. There were rumblings for a while about Glenn Robinson being broke. Now I wonder what team takes their place as Most Likely to House A Felon?

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Re: MMA General Discussion 2017
« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2017, 06:06:54 AM »
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« Reply #27 on: January 16, 2017, 08:01:08 AM »
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Re: MMA General Discussion 2017
« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2017, 08:45:21 AM »
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Stipe Miocic very unhappy with his UFC contract, trying to renegotiate before fighting again - "The fact that the challenger to my title (Overeem) made more money than me was like a slap to the face (...) I feel crapped on a little. I tried to be a company guy but they took my kindness as weakness"

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Re: MMA General Discussion 2017
« Reply #29 on: January 17, 2017, 12:13:04 AM »
Tim Kennedy has retired. He must have heard me yell out "Take that you fucking Trump supporter" after Kelvin beat the dogshit out of him.

Sorry, Tim.

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Re: MMA General Discussion 2017
« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2017, 12:34:36 AM »
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    Sitting in the ER at Saint Michael’s hospital in Toronto, Canada after my fight, I looked up at my buddy Nick Palmisciano who had ridden in the ambulance with me. This wasn’t our first time in this situation. I’d been here a few times in our past decade together. Sometimes for wins and sometimes for losses. The end result always looked the same: Nick carrying five bags that should have been split among three corners and me and my face are bleeding and swollen. “That’s it man,” I said. “We’re all done.”
    We had talked about it a lot over the past few years. I’d spoken to Nick, to my wife Ginger, and to Greg Jackson and Brandon Gibson ad nauseam about the coming end. No matter how hard I trained, I knew this ride wouldn’t last forever. But saying it out loud definitely brought me both sadness that this chapter was complete and overwhelming relief that it’s a decision I could make without worrying about taking care of my family.

    I had just lost to Kelvin Gastelum, a really respectful and hard-working young fighter who went out and did all the things I consider myself good at, but did them better. He actually reminded me of me when I was younger, except I was kind of a jerk back then. As losses go, I was kind of happy I lost to a guy like him.
    A lot of my coaches, friends and fans immediately tried to build me up again. “Kelvin has the right skillset to beat you and it was your first fight back.” “You had ring rust.” “You’re still a top 10 middleweight.” I appreciated their comments and I don’t think they are wrong. I know I am still a good fighter. I know I was away a while. But they didn’t feel what I felt, and that’s being 37. I felt like I was in slow motion the entire match. I felt tired for the first time ever in a fight. I’m the guy that once graduated Ranger School – a place that starves you and denies you sleep for over two months – and took a fight six days later in the IFL and won. I’m the guy that is always in shape. And I was for this fight. I worked harder than I ever have before for this fight. But I wasn’t me anymore. My brain knew what to do but my body did not respond. I’ve watched other fighters arrive here. I’ve watched other fighters pretend they weren’t here. I will not be one of them.

    I want to thank the military community for their support. I’ll never be able to explain how much you motivated me and how much I always tried to make you proud. I’ve been a professional fighter for two decades, but there was no greater moment for me than winning the main event of Fight for the Troops 3. You made me invincible that night. I will keep fighting for you all until the day I die.
    I want to thank all of my coaches, from the old Days working with John Hackleman and Chuck Liddell, to all my military buddies who trained with me while I was on active duty, to Greg Jackson, Mike Winkeljohn, and Brandon Gibson now. That you all thought me worthy of the investment of your time means more than you will ever know.

    I want to thank all of my opponents. Iron sharpens iron and every great victory or crushing defeat occurred because there was someone who trained hard and had the courage to meet me across the cage. I want to call a few guys out in particular. To Luke Rockhold and Jacare: you guys gave me two grinding fights that asked for everything I had. You both made me better and I hope I did the same for you. I hope the two of you keep that Strikeforce chip on your shoulders and get back on top. To Robbie Lawler: you hit me harder than anyone ever has. Seriously, that really hurt. To Roger Gracie: My training for your fight reminded me that I love the gi. Thank you for that. To Rafael Natal: It took tremendous guts to take the Fight for the Troops fight. I will always appreciate you for that and cheer for you every time you fight. To Michael Bisping: I’ve never wanted to beat anyone more than I wanted to beat you, and that motivated me to provide the best version of myself. Best of luck to you going forward, Champ.

    Finally to my wife: I don’t deserve you and you don’t deserve what I’ve put you through. I could lie to you and tell you it’s all over, but we both know I have already moved onto another super dangerous thing to fill my time, so I’m going to leave it just at “thank you and sorry” for now.
    So with that, to all of you fighters out there, I am not going anywhere. I love fighting and will always have the heart of a figher. I am committed to growing our sport and taking care of those who are a part of it. As sad as it is for me to walk away, the only thing sadder would be for me to stay because I had no other choice in order to feed my family. Someday the Kelvin Gastelum’s and the Yair Rodriguez’s and the Paige VanZant’s will be sitting in their respective emergency rooms with their respective Nick’s talking about it being over. And when that day comes, I want to make sure their future is secure.

    I love you all. Thanks for listening. And thank you most of all for giving me the opportunity to do what I love for all these years.

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Re: MMA General Discussion 2017
« Reply #31 on: January 17, 2017, 12:37:47 AM »
I don't care for the guy personally but that's a very classy goodbye.

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Re: MMA General Discussion 2017
« Reply #32 on: January 18, 2017, 08:03:09 AM »


Woodley: Mighty Mouse doesn't get paid the most out of the UFC champions because he's black

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Re: MMA General Discussion 2017
« Reply #33 on: January 18, 2017, 08:41:52 AM »
I think Woodley was onto something when he pointed out a few months ago that he was a huge target for racist comments, but I don't really like this race troll gimmick he's come up with.


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Re: MMA General Discussion 2017
« Reply #34 on: January 18, 2017, 08:56:32 AM »
It was only a matter of time for someone else to run with it from an opposite angle when they see the biggest star run with nationality and race a lot.

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« Reply #35 on: January 19, 2017, 12:13:14 AM »
I think Woodley was onto something when he pointed out a few months ago that he was a huge target for racist comments, but I don't really like this race troll gimmick he's come up with.

Race Card Woodley has already popped up as a gimmick twitter account.

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« Reply #36 on: January 19, 2017, 01:56:11 PM »
A guy like Woodley pays way more attention to stuff online than most fighters. He probably sees how the times are right now and how so many people eventually turn on 9 out of 10 American black fighters once they get near the top of their division and has taken this into account on coming up with a plan to get more eyes on him and more money.

Considering how the marketing was with the old bosses and how it looks to be worse with the new bosses so far... it's not the worst of ideas.

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« Reply #37 on: January 21, 2017, 05:08:47 AM »


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Re: MMA General Discussion 2017
« Reply #38 on: January 22, 2017, 05:30:30 AM »


Interesting fact about the UFC running the Glory PPV in December at the very start of this podcast, smart move imo. Take an ownerhsip lead in other combat sports. They have a huge presence already, why not use it to market other shit?

I agree with Rogan that high-level heavyweight kickboxing could be huge. It needs the athletes that K1 had back in the day and a certain kind of presentation. I don't know enough to know if there is a lot of young talent in the pipeline.

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« Reply #39 on: January 22, 2017, 05:57:06 AM »
P. much like the talent pool of prospects in MMA right now.

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Re: MMA General Discussion 2017
« Reply #40 on: January 24, 2017, 03:30:55 AM »


This is worth listening to. Some interesting tidbits scattered throughout, plus hearing his emotion is worth it.

I thought he should have gone a while ago because he's not good enough for what the UFC needs but he was still a loyal company man for two decades and deserved more respect on his way out. This interview was a great tribute that the UFC refused to do.

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« Reply #41 on: January 26, 2017, 02:46:25 AM »
Michael McDonald, a top 10 fighter, is saying he has to get a job to pay his bills and to afford a fight camp. Considering this guy was a top 5 fighter not long ago and fought for an interim title, yikes...


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« Reply #42 on: January 26, 2017, 04:42:03 AM »
Michael McDonald, a top 10 fighter, is saying he has to get a job to pay his bills and to afford a fight camp. Considering this guy was a top 5 fighter not long ago and fought for an interim title, yikes...

Sad if it's true. Fighters claim poverty so much though. Even after six figure payday fights. So this might be a ploy.

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« Reply #43 on: January 26, 2017, 06:08:43 AM »
It's going around on twitter that Charles Oliveira is competing on the REAL FC card next month which, if so would mean he's been cut by the UFC.

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« Reply #44 on: January 26, 2017, 06:12:32 AM »
It's going around on twitter that Charles Oliveira is competing on the REAL FC card next month which, if so would mean he's been cut by the UFC.

Dude is  9-7-1 in his UFC run and may never be champ, but he is an extremely exciting fighter and has solid wins. I find this crazy.


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« Reply #45 on: January 26, 2017, 06:15:50 AM »
He's missed weight in two of his last three fights and three of his last six. Refuses to move back up to LW. I get it, assuming the rumors are true.

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« Reply #46 on: January 26, 2017, 10:43:34 AM »
http://podcastone.com/pg/jsp/program/episode.jsp?programID=706&pid=1704376

Skip to about 40:00 for the Ben Askren interview. He explains what the Ali Act means, he and Chael speculate on what will happen in the future. Going to be interesting to see what happens.

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« Reply #47 on: January 26, 2017, 10:57:34 AM »
Dana White's buddy won't like it, but the republicans have shown they don't mind finding new ways to stick it to him so who knows.

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« Reply #48 on: January 27, 2017, 12:49:24 AM »
Ali Bagautinov and Zak Makovsky have been let go by the UFC. Don't really understand that move.

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