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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #300 on: February 09, 2019, 03:47:49 AM »
I laughed watching this week's show when they showed Aldis and Black "warming up".  Black doing handstand push ups and Aldis is doing a photo shoot.  Guessing it was probably intentional given the characters.
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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #301 on: February 09, 2019, 11:41:43 AM »
I laughed watching this week's show when they showed Aldis and Black "warming up".  Black doing handstand push ups and Aldis is doing a photo shoot.  Guessing it was probably intentional given the characters.

That was great, and I, too, laughed at it.
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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #302 on: February 09, 2019, 04:27:14 PM »
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At the TV tapings tonight, they were building to Nick Aldis defending the NWA World Title against Marty Scurll at the Crockett Cup in late April.

That is just very ROH booking. Why save that match for (what is I'm fairly sure) an Honor Club exclusive show when you can have it be a major match (and possible dark horse candidate for main event) at the anniversary show or the ROH/NJPW Supershow at MSG?

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #303 on: February 12, 2019, 08:29:16 AM »
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At the TV tapings tonight, they were building to Nick Aldis defending the NWA World Title against Marty Scurll at the Crockett Cup in late April.

That is just very ROH booking. Why save that match for (what is I'm fairly sure) an Honor Club exclusive show when you can have it be a major match (and possible dark horse candidate for main event) at the anniversary show or the ROH/NJPW Supershow at MSG?


Agreed. Made little sense, and that may actually end up being Scurll's last match in ROH as I believe he is up end of April and obviously is AEW bound. I wouldnt be shocked to see Marty get a ROH title shot in March at the anniversary show either. I wish they would give him a run with the belt but its not going to happen if he's on his way out in the months ahead.

Speaking of which....I havent seen much of any semblance of direction for that anniversary show. I was debating on going but I doubt it unless they throw out an impressive card. Now more than ever this company needs to have the booking long term and thought through, with lots of unpredictability. Unfortunately I'm seeing little of that so far this year. Plus what do they have planned for MSG? Who knows.

I watched a bit of the Miami show on Sunday night and WOW.....their attendance is dipping badly. This was the worst look I've seen from them in sheer numbers in the crowd since they decided to go more midsized arenas. They blacked out almost the entire arena and still couldnt fill what was left whatsoever (I'm guessing there was mabybe 300-400 or so there?). Time for ROH to pull back on these bigger venues, its gotta be hurting them financially badly. The womens title switch was out of the blue too, and guessing that decision is twofold. Klein might be AEW bound (Whitmer is in an agent role there) and they gotta be seeing these attendance numbers and getting concerrned. So making the product a bit more unpredictable with title switches randomly may be an attempt to get those numbers up

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #304 on: February 12, 2019, 09:14:20 AM »
They announced Jay Lethal Vs Matt Taven as the main event for their 17th Anniversary PPV. Which yuck but hey at least, we know (or at least, we hope) it won't be the main event of the MSG card.

I've liked the ROH shows I've seen in 2019 so far and the direction that they are headed in overall (Matt Taven superpush and the godawful Bully/Silas/Briscos stable running roughshod aside). Mark Haskins/Bandido match from last episode I watched was fantastic. As I've stated a gazillion times in this thread, I think a massive hit in popularity was inevitable no matter what they do so I hope they just continue to go with what brought them to the dance in the first place (strong emphasis on workrate)

That being said, it's got to be an awful time to be an ROH fan. ROH had three guys who are huge stars with crossover appeal, at the peak of their career, and they still couldn't really break through to the mainstream.

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #305 on: February 12, 2019, 09:19:52 AM »
I'm happy they are going with the Taven/Lethal match at the Anniversary show as I am going to the MSG show, and would rather something, anything else. Taven is just so generic and bland. I can't stand the Kingdom.

I love the talent they've brought in. Super pushes to Juice and Finlay, I'm all for. Haskins, Brody King, Hot Sauce, Bandido are all great talents. PCO is fun, too.
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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #306 on: February 12, 2019, 09:29:23 AM »
I watched a bit of the Miami show on Sunday night and WOW.....their attendance is dipping badly. This was the worst look I've seen from them in sheer numbers in the crowd since they decided to go more midsized arenas. They blacked out almost the entire arena and still couldnt fill what was left whatsoever (I'm guessing there was mabybe 300-400 or so there?).

They announced Jay Lethal Vs Matt Taven as the main event for their 17th Anniversary PPV.

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #307 on: February 12, 2019, 09:50:24 AM »
Well if Taven and Lethal are on for Vegas, count me out of that one. I'm not flying out for that shit.

But dont get me wrong, I actually am liking the workrate coming out the gates here with the new talent (that Haskins/Bandido match was indeed excellent), but they got to get some order to all of this and get the real standouts better pushes ahead of the rest of the pack. Right now there seems a lull where they are just showcasing this talent on an even running level. Guys like Rush and Bandido and Juice though need their positions on the top. I think PCO will clearly be moving up the the card too in no time.  I think the brand needs an identity with all this new talent and that's what I'm waiting for more of. A program or two that stands out would be a start. Right now it feels like faction wars that arent really going anywhere. They got a boatload of strong talent, now please develop and use them properly. Cobb as TV champ seems like an afterthought, for example.

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #308 on: February 12, 2019, 11:36:11 AM »
I was going to try to go to the Vegas PPV but wasn’t sure I could get out forFriday night and thought I may have to settle for the Saturday night tapings.  Guess that announced main event made it work out in my favor that I won’t feel discouraged.
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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #309 on: February 13, 2019, 09:03:56 AM »
Over 4,100 tickets for ROH/NJPW supershow at MSG for sale on StubHub and tickets are less than half the price of what they were when they first went onsale.

Guess Angry 8th grader Jay White isn't the same draw that Elite are  :-\

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #310 on: February 13, 2019, 10:55:09 AM »
NJPW's thing where they don't really announce the card until pretty close to the last minute really hurts things with a lot of people.

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #311 on: February 13, 2019, 11:02:13 AM »
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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #312 on: February 13, 2019, 11:13:12 AM »
Agreed. Made little sense, and that may actually end up being Scurll's last match in ROH as I believe he is up end of April and obviously is AEW bound. I wouldnt be shocked to see Marty get a ROH title shot in March at the anniversary show either. I wish they would give him a run with the belt but its not going to happen if he's on his way out in the months ahead.
It seems really dumb that ROH would build a stable around Scurll and give him a major title shot if they didn't think they had a reasonable shot of resigning him.

I mean ROH is dumb and Scurll probably is leaving but it does seem odd considering they low key kind of buried the rest of the Elite guys on their way out.

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #313 on: February 16, 2019, 07:20:48 AM »
Not sure which was worse - how uninterested Garrison was in dancing to the theme song they were given or watching Ian try to dance and be enthusiastic.

Really think if they see anything in Kross they need to make him ditch that goofy DragonBall Z look.  I feel it makes him more look like a joke and a goof than help him stand out.  I mean, he is a generic little guy but that look makes me feel he looks like such a geek.
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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #314 on: February 16, 2019, 09:06:53 AM »
Not sure which was worse - how uninterested Garrison was in dancing to the theme song they were given or watching Ian try to dance and be enthusiastic.

Really think if they see anything in Kross they need to make him ditch that goofy DragonBall Z look.  I feel it makes him more look like a joke and a goof than help him stand out.  I mean, he is a generic little guy but that look makes me feel he looks like such a geek.

Holy shit, that took me right out of the match. He looked like a total geek.
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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #315 on: February 17, 2019, 09:11:14 AM »
Rush Vs Bandido and Briscoe Brothers Vs PCO and Brody King for ROH Tag Team Titles announced for 17th Anniversary PPV.

Those are both good (in case of former match, great) additions to card. Almost make up for lameass Lethal Vs Taven main event.

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« Reply #316 on: February 17, 2019, 11:03:37 AM »
Rush Vs Bandido and Briscoe Brothers Vs PCO and Brody King for ROH Tag Team Titles announced for 17th Anniversary PPV.

Those are both good (in case of former match, great) additions to card. Almost make up for lameass Lethal Vs Taven main event.

I'm trying to figure out what they're doing with Villain Enterprises. They have a 6 man title match, Marty will eventually get the World title shot, and now Brody and PCO have the tag shot. Are they going to give them all the titles in hopes that Marty doesn't leave?
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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #317 on: February 18, 2019, 06:31:11 AM »
It would be a profoundly ROH thing to do, wouldn't it?

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« Reply #318 on: February 18, 2019, 07:55:57 AM »
Just watched this week's episode on the DVR. Man, what a slapdash episode. Episodes have been fairly cohesive and storyline driven but this one felt like a lot of odds and ends. The opening five man match felt like they picked five guys' name out of a hat. I honestly forgot Chris Sabin was still around. Must've been 6 months since I last saw him on ROH TV. I think this was match he suffered a legit injury.

Bouncers Vs Garrison & Kross was like a homeless man's version of Twin Towers/Rockers at WrestleMania V. Destroyer and Baby Shoes summed up on my thoughts on it p. much. Workrate wise it was decent but presentation felt super super indy. Also someone has got to make a gif of Caprice Coleman unenthusiastically raising the roof during Garrison & Kross' entrance.

Briscoes Vs Chuckie T & Colt Cabana felt like they got their 20 minute match cut down to 10 minutes right before they went out there. Would say it was kind of anticlimatic way for Chuckie T to end his ROH run but also he didn't have a super memorable ROH run.

Alternately, the point of the Lifeblood and Jay Lethal segment could've been put across in 7 or 8 minutes but it lasted 15 minutes. Serious "I LOVE THE SPORT OF PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING" mode Jay Lethal is not particularly interesting and this segment was mostly that. Juice Robinson also talks unironically the way Dalton Castle talks ironically. It felt like Jay Lethal was talking about Lifeblood the way that Oz (the Great Wizard not young Nash) talking about Dorothy and her friends at the end of The Wizard of Oz

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #319 on: March 08, 2019, 12:18:36 PM »
Sinclair is part of a group that has purchased the YES Network, which is the home of the Yankees. Speculation is that it will be the home of ROH in NY. That would be great as I rely on NESN, and they don't have an HD channel here in NY.
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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #320 on: March 08, 2019, 01:01:48 PM »
Don't they get preempted on NESN all the time, too? Whenever I've been browsing the guide and see it on I've checked only to find, like, little league softball.

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #321 on: March 08, 2019, 01:25:10 PM »
I have my DVR set to record it at both 1pm on Wednesday and Midnight on Thursday. I haven't had an issue, but maybe during the MLB season they might.
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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #322 on: March 13, 2019, 02:24:20 PM »
Marty Scurll is going to challege for the ROH title at the MSG show. They're really making a hard push for him to not jump to AEW when his deal is up.

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #323 on: March 16, 2019, 03:02:32 AM »
I am glad I didn’t go last night to a Lethal-Taven 60 Minute Draw but sounds like people were pretty high on the tag title match.
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« Reply #324 on: March 16, 2019, 03:52:46 AM »
Watching the show right now. Yeah, I had to do a double take when they had Lethal/Taven go 60 minutes. Omega/Okada it was not.

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #325 on: March 16, 2019, 04:26:23 AM »
Lethal vs Taven for 60 minutes.

It’s like they purposely booked something to make me never watch again.
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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #326 on: March 16, 2019, 04:57:28 AM »
Even Gabe never would have given THOSE two a 60 minute draw.   Kinda wish they had the balls to do that in MSG.

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #327 on: March 17, 2019, 09:54:48 AM »
Not only did PCO/Brody King win the tag titles at the Anniversary show but...
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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #328 on: March 17, 2019, 10:04:52 AM »
It was also just announced that the ROH title main event for MSG will be Lethal/Taven/Scurll in a ladder match.

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« Reply #329 on: March 17, 2019, 10:24:54 AM »
It was also just announced that the ROH title main event for MSG will be Lethal/Taven/Scurll in a ladder match.

Jay White vs NJ Cup winner better be the main event of the show. I can't stand Taven so much that I don't care about the ROH title match.
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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #330 on: March 17, 2019, 11:28:15 AM »
Show is called GI Supercard USA so I'm gonna bet the ROH World Title match is 3rd or 4th from top of the card fortunately.

Also I wonder how Villain Enterprises winning the tag team titles effects the previously announced Briscoes Vs G.O.D Titles Vs Titles Match at MSG? Is it going to be VE VS GOD Titles Vs Titles or G.O.D Vs Briscoes for just the NJPW Tag Team Titles?

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #331 on: March 19, 2019, 03:53:14 AM »
Ladder match is main eventing the show. Sorry guys.

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« Reply #332 on: March 20, 2019, 04:43:30 AM »
So apparently Sinclair / RoH forced David Starr to pull the promo video he put up with a threat of pulling Lethal out of the event being run in Israel.

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #333 on: March 20, 2019, 09:40:58 PM »
What was the promo?

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #334 on: March 21, 2019, 02:26:49 AM »
What was the promo?

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #335 on: March 24, 2019, 01:57:07 PM »
Also I wonder how Villain Enterprises winning the tag team titles effects the previously announced Briscoes Vs G.O.D Titles Vs Titles Match at MSG? Is it going to be VE VS GOD Titles Vs Titles or G.O.D Vs Briscoes for just the NJPW Tag Team Titles?

Looks like it's gonna be a triple threat with, GOD, Briscoes, and VE in a winner take all match.

Also, I haven't been following the tapings but it looks like they threw a Rush/Dalton Castle match on the card. Also, Will Ospreay/Jeff Cobb which will be one hell of a match.

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #336 on: March 28, 2019, 08:01:21 AM »
What was the promo?

I knew I liked Starr before, but DAAAAAMN he's on another tier for me now.

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #337 on: March 31, 2019, 10:40:30 AM »
Emma announced that she's parted with ROH and is a free agent now.

That was a nothing burger of a run. Partly due to injury but also cause Women of Honor seems a super pale imitation of the Women's Revolution.

Assuming AEW will snap her up.

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #338 on: April 14, 2019, 12:34:01 PM »
Just when I was about fully throw in towel on ROH, I find out two of the matches on the Crockett Cup PPV are Briscoes Vs THE ROCK N ROLL EXPRESS and PCO & Brody King Vs Satoshi Kojima and Yuji Nagata.

Not going to let myself get too hyped up cause ROH is probably gonna try and insert Enzo and Cass in there somewhere.

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #339 on: April 14, 2019, 10:33:38 PM »
I was a bit disappointed with the Crockett Cup. I expected some great newer teams from the indies, maybe get a 124 team tournament or something. I'm sure it'll be good, hopefully, but the lineup didn't do a lot for me. RNR Express announced is awesome, though. And running at the same time as Road to Wrestling Dontaku hurt the NJPW involvement.
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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #340 on: April 17, 2019, 08:28:52 AM »
So apparently, Delirious is being phased out as head writer and being replaced by Bully Ray and Joey Mercury.

Honestly never thought that ROH would fire Delirious and replace him with something even worse.

Wonder how long NJPW will stick with the partnership with ROH trying to be like ECW and ending up being like 2014 TNA.  ::) ::) ::)

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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #341 on: April 17, 2019, 08:36:25 AM »
Right now Cobb has the NEVER title and GOD has the ROH tag belts. My guess is once those titles are off those wrestlers, we'll see NJPW try to move on. It sucks for guys like Cobb and Brody who signed with ROH because of their relationship with NJPW.
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Re: ROH: Not Just a NJPW Brand Extension
« Reply #342 on: April 17, 2019, 08:41:17 AM »
I was assuming/hoping that Jeff Cobb beats Taven in a few months for the ROH World Title but knowing current ROH, they're gonna give Matt Taven an 18 month title run.