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Re: XFL to Return?!??!
« Reply #50 on: December 21, 2017, 09:27:26 AM »
I'm assuming Trump will be heavily involved in some of the PR for this league.

My guess is he is at the first game, and does the first coin flip.

My question is do you think it hurts WWE if Vince and his brand become heavily associated with Trump?
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« Reply #51 on: December 21, 2017, 09:38:06 AM »
It'll definately hurt them. There's a reason why his past with WWE is never acknowledged or that Linda being in his cabinet isn't mentioned anywhere. The McMahons will still feed him money but he'll never be mentioned on television. I can't wait for Trump shouting about how a real league like the XFL has players that stand for the anthem in his first pre-game promo!

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« Reply #52 on: December 21, 2017, 09:38:21 AM »
He's in their mythical hall of fame so I guess it matters?

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« Reply #53 on: December 21, 2017, 09:38:50 AM »
It's not a true HOF until Tito Santana's sister Arriba McEntire is inducted

The fact Willie Nelson did a movie with Shawn and did WM7 and still isn’t invited offends me more than 209 is about Kid Rock.

I mean, hell, Maria Menunous deserves to be in before Kid Rock!

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« Reply #54 on: December 21, 2017, 09:41:15 AM »
Well, looks like VKM is going all in on this.  100 million? 

Is that your guess on how much he is going to be in the red this time?

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« Reply #55 on: December 21, 2017, 09:49:12 AM »
I don't care about Kid Rock. MAGAFL is my problem here, in combination with all the money they gave him. I had enough.


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Re: XFL to Return?!??!
« Reply #56 on: December 21, 2017, 10:03:47 AM »
Wake me when Papa Roach and Powerman 5000 go in.

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« Reply #57 on: December 21, 2017, 10:07:32 AM »
Well, looks like VKM is going all in on this.  100 million? 

Is that your guess on how much he is going to be in the red this time?

That's how much he got for selling his shares.

"McMahon is chairman and CEO of World Wrestling Entertainment, which filed details with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission about McMahon's sale of 3.34 million shares of WWE, equaling about $100 million"


Less shares the Mcmahons own in the company I care about the better.

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« Reply #58 on: December 21, 2017, 10:15:53 AM »
That's actually impressive. 4.3% of the total stock got him $105 million.

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« Reply #59 on: December 21, 2017, 11:37:45 PM »
I'm still baffled as to how he thinks this is a good idea or will work.
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« Reply #60 on: December 22, 2017, 01:41:58 AM »
I'm still baffled as to how he thinks this is a good idea or will work.

I'm not surprised. IIRC, the 30 for 30 on the XFL said that Vince wanted to go through with a 2nd Season but NBC refused to air the games and basically gave Vince no other option but to kill the league.

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/11/sports/pro-football-no-more-springtimes-for-the-xfl-as-league-folds.html

NBC backed out then UPN wanted more money for a Sunday Night slot, then they backed out. Vince even remarks that the broadcast component was the most important aspect of going forward.

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« Reply #61 on: December 22, 2017, 02:09:20 AM »
Will it air on USA or Fox News?

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« Reply #62 on: December 22, 2017, 03:54:21 AM »
I'm still baffled as to how he thinks this is a good idea or will work.

Dementia.

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« Reply #63 on: December 22, 2017, 06:45:28 AM »
I'm still baffled as to how he thinks this is a good idea or will work.

It makes sense in a way now. Ratings kinda don't matter in this era compared to their impact on how they did when he first tried this. The one thing that makes no sense in this is the fact that going about it in the way he's going to could potentially kill off everything for him if we follow it to it's most extreme conclusion.

Vince markets this as "the patriotic football league" as some sort of reverse virtue signal in his mind. Get his good old buddy Trump to endorse it. Seeing the trend of what WWE crowds look like now... piss off about 75% of the people who still actually go see the WWE live, and boycott this football league right off the bat. This boycott extends itself to the WWE and to a lesser extent the USA Network. History of racism and sexual abuse starts to get covered by the mainstream media in a way that Vince hasn't been through before. Stockholders and advertisers back out, bye bye tv deals that bring about money outta nowhere regardless of ratings and live attendance. So long small, cheap, but plentiful advertisers who see this company as a dumping ground because of the amount of families and kids who watch the programming in theory.

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« Reply #64 on: December 22, 2017, 08:48:41 AM »
Are you suggesting this could end up being a bad idea?

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Re: XFL to Return?!??!
« Reply #65 on: December 22, 2017, 09:18:20 AM »
Hear me out. . .

What if this is streamed via the WWE Network or Vince uses that model to start his own sports streaming app?  The UFL could be the first sports league on the app as he attempts to add other sports. I can vouch that Conference USA is about to negotiate its next contract as its current disastrous contract nears its end. Fans of those teams have watched their football games on Facebook (Stadium), or wherever they can watch the games, which are rarely shown. Basketball is worse.  TV contracts will be much less lucrative going forward due to all the cord cutters. Is it a long shot?  Long shot probably does not begin to describe how unlikely that is. But Vince may hav gotten the idea to use the Network’s model as streaming is likely the future.
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« Reply #66 on: December 23, 2017, 12:49:31 AM »
You might -- MIGHT -- get something like that to work if the cornerstone of your programming is an established sports entity. Trying to get people interested in watching a new second-rate football league is hard enough on its own. Making them pay to do so is likely financial suicide.

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« Reply #67 on: December 23, 2017, 01:07:56 AM »
Yeah, I agree with that. But there are fans already having to subscribe to crappy conference feeds that do not even have apps so it must be watched on desktop or laptop and/or have those hooked to your television set. Or you can watch on your phone’s browser. And that doesn’t give you access to the majority of the games.

So if a few college conferences were to sign up; some soccer and hockey leagues; and Vince’s pro football league was on there, I could see a decent amount of cord cutters picking up this sports app.

Like I said, I think it is more than a long shot. But more people would pay for sports than wrestling. I would easily pay $5 - $10 per month just to watch every Marshall football and basketball game. CUSA-TV is behind a paywall of $10/month and as I said you only get a handful of games not already being streamed elsewhere. 
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« Reply #68 on: December 23, 2017, 01:14:41 AM »
Is that "decent amount" in the double digits?

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« Reply #69 on: December 23, 2017, 11:06:13 AM »
The problems now are different from 2001. There's serious oversaturation of football these days and I don't think people will want to get up for some other league in addition to the main vein, intravenous experience the NFL and college ball offer now.

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« Reply #70 on: December 23, 2017, 12:01:32 PM »
Every good soccer league is locked in contracts with the likes of Fox, NBC, Turner, ESPN and Bein Sports. Soccer fans also have intense backlash to paying more to watch and are among the most highly educated. Meaning we know how to steal.

So that's a no go.


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« Reply #71 on: December 24, 2017, 08:11:16 PM »
I've paid anywhere from $3.99-9.99 (plus tax) for stadium feeds when my alma mater travels to shit holes and/or FBS (nonpower five) programs that aren't broadcast locally.

Yeah, you throw shit like that on an app of some sort there's a bunch of lower end college football fans that'll watch. All you need is the stadium feed (pressbox cam, sideline cam, one endzone cam in a tower) linked to the radio broadcast.

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« Reply #72 on: December 24, 2017, 10:08:37 PM »
Most schools have gotten their stadium feeds and production equipment up to the necessary level to be on ESPN 3. A streaming service would just need to pick up the conferences as they become available. Still, it is a ridiculous long shot that this is what Vince is considering
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Re: XFL to Return?!??!
« Reply #73 on: December 25, 2017, 03:46:47 AM »
I'm probably guessing this will become a summer league. That way he's not directly in competition with the NFL and can get players over time. With a 100m investment, this definitely doesn't seem to be the type of investment for a winter league. Which is probably the best thing for it because the only sports in the summer are MLB and MLS.

I honestly think that Vince is probably making a developmental (to start) league this time around and eventually become the better league over time. It'll really depend on the first information we get for the actual structure. Because if he just goes all in, then it'll be screwed.

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« Reply #74 on: December 25, 2017, 05:02:26 AM »
I'm probably guessing this will become a summer league. That way he's not directly in competition with the NFL and can get players over time. With a 100m investment, this definitely doesn't seem to be the type of investment for a winter league. Which is probably the best thing for it because the only sports in the summer are MLB and MLS...

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« Reply #75 on: December 28, 2017, 09:01:05 AM »
Took me awhile to figure out what this ahem was about. Sorry, should've added WNBA. What was I thinking.

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Re: XFL to Return?!??!
« Reply #77 on: January 24, 2018, 07:55:25 PM »
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Many people have pointed out over the years that Vince McMahon was working on both the XFL and WWE in 2000 and 2001 and some point to that being what hurt the WWE product in the latter months of 2001 because McMahon was not giving 100% attention to the wrestling side.

That could actually be great for the wrestling product now. Let HHH run the show and allow the wrestlers who deserve the pushes get one.
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« Reply #78 on: January 24, 2018, 11:17:17 PM »
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Many people have pointed out over the years that Vince McMahon was working on both the XFL and WWE in 2000 and 2001 and some point to that being what hurt the WWE product in the latter months of 2001 because McMahon was not giving 100% attention to the wrestling side.

That could actually be great for the wrestling product now. Let HHH run the show and allow the wrestlers who deserve the pushes get one.

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« Reply #79 on: January 24, 2018, 11:38:46 PM »
can't wait for the carmella and mojo mega pushes. how long till Big Cass is back? HHH loves him.

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« Reply #80 on: January 25, 2018, 01:08:16 AM »
Vince is to make a sports announcement at 3ET.

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« Reply #81 on: January 25, 2018, 01:10:23 AM »
I hope he announces the XFL and everyone just laughs and walks out.
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« Reply #82 on: January 25, 2018, 02:18:56 AM »
That would be amazing.

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I can't believe a guy can be that big, and jump around like he does what a great athlete!

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« Reply #84 on: January 25, 2018, 04:13:11 AM »
Well, whatever he puts into this will be lost money. Might as well flush it.

He should just try to buy the Panthers.


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« Reply #85 on: January 25, 2018, 04:35:47 AM »
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« Reply #86 on: January 25, 2018, 04:48:07 AM »
How hard is the mainstream sports media going to ridicule this? He'll never be able to get past their perception of him.
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« Reply #87 on: January 25, 2018, 04:53:42 AM »
Colors are Red, White and Blue.

Ugh, there is going to be so much patriotic PR shoved down our throats with this.
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« Reply #88 on: January 25, 2018, 04:54:16 AM »
Also, check out Vince's AlphaEnt headshot. So.. much.. Photoshop..

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« Reply #89 on: January 25, 2018, 04:55:22 AM »
Colors are Red, White and Blue.

Ugh, there is going to be so much patriotic PR shoved down our throats with this.
I mean, he named his company Alpha Entertainment. What did you expect? ;)
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« Reply #90 on: January 25, 2018, 04:58:51 AM »
I won't watch a single snap. So many better things to do with my time than watch players not good enough to play in the NFL.


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« Reply #91 on: January 25, 2018, 05:02:15 AM »
That’s what the CFL is for.
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« Reply #92 on: January 25, 2018, 05:26:38 AM »

This video seems relevant.


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« Reply #93 on: January 25, 2018, 05:28:05 AM »
This won't be no league for no sissys or pantywaists, lol
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« Reply #94 on: January 25, 2018, 05:29:35 AM »
Instead of wellness violations, people will be suspended for not standing for the anthem.

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« Reply #95 on: January 25, 2018, 05:31:55 AM »
Colors are Red, White and Blue.

Ugh, there is going to be so much patriotic PR shoved down our throats with this.
You keep the old colors, it's linked to the failed version. The NFL, NBA, and MLB have all used some kind of red, white, and blue combination for decades. Colors might be the least of this league's problems.

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« Reply #96 on: January 25, 2018, 06:02:09 AM »
LESS STALL MORE BALL lmao
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« Reply #97 on: January 25, 2018, 06:03:01 AM »
Are we in 2000. madness.

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« Reply #98 on: January 25, 2018, 06:04:36 AM »
#XFL2020 lirl


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« Reply #99 on: January 25, 2018, 06:06:30 AM »
8 teams - thats interesting.