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UFC Top 25 Fights
« on: March 14, 2018, 07:46:58 AM »
Anyone watching this on FS1? I'm interested to see what old fights get listed. I imagine the oldest will be maybe Chuck/Tito, Bonnar/Griffin, and Hughes/Trigg II. There's been so many good fights the last 5 years, that I imagine that something big will be left out.  Some interesting choices so far and some that are kind of funny


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Honorable Mentions - Robbie Lawler vs Matt Brown, TJ Dillashaw vs Cody Garbrandt, Robbie Lawler vs Johny Hendricks 1,

25. Pat Barry vs Cheick Kongo
24. Justin Gaethje vs Michael Johnson
23. Georges St. Pierre vs BJ Penn 1
22. Ronda Rousey vs Liz Carmouche
21. Korean Zombie vs Dustin Poirer
20. Joanna Jedrzejcyk vs Claudia Gadelha 2
19. Brock Lesnar vs Shane Carwin
18. Cub Swanson vs Doo Ho Choi
17. Chris Leben vs Yoshihiro Akiyama



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Re: UFC Top 25 Fights
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2018, 07:47:53 AM »
#1 Giblert vs Diego I hope.

Or Jones/Gus.


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Re: UFC Top 25 Fights
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2018, 08:03:37 AM »
I'm gonna guess they put Conor/Nate 2 at number 1. Brock/Mir 2 and Conor/Aldo makes the list while Diego/Gil and Robbie/Rory II get honorable mention.

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Re: UFC Top 25 Fights
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2018, 08:12:13 AM »
Brock/Mir 2 and Conor/Aldo don't belong on the list at all. I'd put Rory/Robbie II or Jones/Gus as #1 but don't think either would get the spot.

Gaethje/Johnson deserves way, way higher placement then where it landed. Ditto for Choi/Swanson. Rousey/Carmouche isn't even in the top 25 best womens fights of all time, get that shit off the list.

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Re: UFC Top 25 Fights
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2018, 08:33:56 AM »
I'm joking. Its like when UFC did a top 100 list right before UFC 100 and only had fights with guys that were feuding with Dana (Tito/Shamrocks) where they lost. So, Tito/Frank Shamrock got left off a top 100 UFC fight list in 2009 while Brock/Mir I made the top five.

Jones/Gus, Robbie/Rory 2, Aldo/Mendes 2, Diego/Melendez should all be high, but these lists usually play favorites.

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Re: UFC Top 25 Fights
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2018, 12:11:33 AM »
I figure just for historical context we'll see Bonnar/Griffin in the Top Five, if not Three.

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Re: UFC Top 25 Fights
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2018, 12:36:47 AM »
Anything that lasts less than a round shouldn't be on these types of lists.

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Re: UFC Top 25 Fights
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2018, 01:05:19 AM »
When this crazy sport just began, the fights would often go sub 3-4 mins, which made Tank vs Oleg going 17 mins seem epic when I first saw it. A recent rewatch saw two very tired guys struggling to do much.

Coleman vs Maurice Smith was also a great chess match, but I'm guessing that one wouldn't hold up either

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Re: UFC Top 25 Fights
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2018, 01:11:25 AM »
Anything that lasts less than a round shouldn't be on these types of lists.

If they were including StrikeForce fights then Diaz/Daley should be on this list, it's better then some of the UFC ones already listed.

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Re: UFC Top 25 Fights
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2018, 01:23:15 AM »
Those are few and far between.  Most <5 minute fights are pretty one-sided.

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Re: UFC Top 25 Fights
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2018, 01:31:13 AM »
Joanna/Claudia II is arguably the best womens fight in mma history. It deserves way, way higher placement then what it got.

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Re: UFC Top 25 Fights
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2018, 02:22:36 PM »
These lists are always fun to me because while I disagree with a lot, I often think about the ones I saw live, versus guys or ladies losing their minds on this board if it was a PPV or TV show I didn't watch.

Has the whole list been released yet?


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Re: UFC Top 25 Fights
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2018, 12:34:14 PM »
No, they are doing a six episode reveal. Speaking of, a couple more episodes aired

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 Honorable mentions:

Andrei Arlovski vs Travis Browne, Rose Namajunas vs Joanna Jedrzejczyk

16. Forrest Griffin vs Rampage Jackson
15. Diego Sanchez vs Gilbert Melendez (way too low)
14. Eddie Alvarez vs Justin Gaethje
13. Robbie Lawler vs Carlos Condit
12. Forrest Griffin vs Stephan Bonnar 1
11. Matt Hughes vs BJ Penn 2
10. Mark Hunt vs Bigfoot Silva 1
9. Matt Hughes vs Frank Trigg 2
8. Anderson Silva vs Chael Sonnen 1


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Re: UFC Top 25 Fights
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2018, 01:27:06 AM »
Top Five

1. Conor vs Nate II
2. Conor vs Nate I
3. Hendo vs Shogun I
4. Rory vs Robbie II
5. Edgar vs Maynard II

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Re: UFC Top 25 Fights
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2018, 02:08:34 AM »
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Re: UFC Top 25 Fights
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2018, 02:09:57 AM »
I don't have a problem with Conor/Nate II being in the Top 5 but back to back.....come on man.

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Re: UFC Top 25 Fights
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2018, 02:29:14 AM »
Conor/Nate being 1 and 2 wasn't surprising. I agree the second one was worthy of top five. First one is probably a top 25 fight as well, but that's pretty predictable to put it back to back since Conor is the star right now.

Edgar/Maynard 2 is worthy of a spot on the list, but I think I like the first fight a little more. Aldo/Mendes 2 should've made the regular list as it's way better than quite a few of these fights. I'd probably go top ten for it. Not a lot of complaints otherwise.


Whole list with honorable mentions just to have it in one place:

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Honorable Mentions - Robbie Lawler vs Matt Brown, TJ Dillashaw vs Cody Garbrandt, Robbie Lawler vs Johny Hendricks 1, Andrei Arlovski vs Travis Browne, Rose Namajunas vs Joanna Jedrzejzyk, Jose Aldo vs Chad Mendes 2


25. Pat Barry vs Cheick Kongo
24. Justin Gaethje vs Michael Johnson
23. Georges St. Pierre vs BJ Penn 1
22. Ronda Rousey vs Liz Carmouche
21. Korean Zombie vs Dustin Poirer
20. Joanna Jedrzejcyk vs Claudia Gadelha 2
19. Brock Lesnar vs Shane Carwin
18. Cub Swanson vs Doo Ho Choi
17. Chris Leben vs Yoshihiro Akiyama
16. Forrest Griffin vs Rampage Jackson
15. Diego Sanchez vs Gilbert Melendez
14. Eddie Alvarez vs Justin Gaethje
13. Robbie Lawler vs Carlos Condit
12. Forrest Griffin vs Stephan Bonnar 1
11. Matt Hughes vs BJ Penn 2
10. Mark Hunt vs Bigfoot Silva 1
9. Matt Hughes vs Frank Trigg 2
8. Anderson Silva vs Chael Sonnen 1
7. Jon Jones vs Alexander Gustaffson
6. Chuck Liddell vs Wanderlei Silva
5. Frankie Edgar vs Gray Maynard 2
4. Robbie Lawler vs Rory MacDonald 2
3. Dan Henderson vs Shogun Rua 1
2. Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz 1
1. Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz 2


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Re: UFC Top 25 Fights
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2018, 02:30:58 AM »
Jones/Gus is better then both Conor/Nate fights.

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Re: UFC Top 25 Fights
« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2018, 02:37:18 AM »
I agree. I'd go Jones/Gus, Aldo/Mendes 2, Rory/Robbie 2, Melendez/Diego, and Shogun/Hendo 1 as my top five. Conor/Nate 2 probably deserves it, but I remember going absolutely crazy during these five fights.

Hughes/BJ 2, Brock/Carwin, and Rousey/Carmouche are probably the biggest what are you doing here fights. Hughes/BJ 2 was the "Not empressed with your performonce fight", right? It was solid enough, but not a top 25 fight.

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Re: UFC Top 25 Fights
« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2018, 02:48:49 AM »
I haven't watched Diego/Gil in a while and I remember some crazy exchanges and freaking out when Diego dropped El Nino but it's not sticking out in mind as much as some of the other fights on the list.

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Re: UFC Top 25 Fights
« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2018, 03:07:16 AM »
It's due for a rewatch. I haven't seen it in a few years. I just remember the whole fight feeling so visceral and intense. There's been so many crazy wars since it probably gets lost in the shuffle now.

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Re: UFC Top 25 Fights
« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2018, 03:16:32 AM »
Edgar/Maynard 2 is worthy of a spot on the list, but I think I like the first fight a little more.

I think you're forgetting that The 1st fight was relatively uneventful and was on an old UFN.  The 2nd fight was the draw and the 3rd was Frankie via KO.

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Re: UFC Top 25 Fights
« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2018, 03:26:32 AM »
Edgar/Maynard 2 is worthy of a spot on the list, but I think I like the first fight a little more.

I think you're forgetting that The 1st fight was relatively uneventful and was on an old UFN.  The 2nd fight was the draw and the 3rd was Frankie via KO.

Dammit yes. I completely forgot about the first fight and that Edgar/Maynard was a trilogy. I love the 2nd fight.

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Re: UFC Top 25 Fights
« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2018, 03:55:16 AM »
3rd fight was crazy too but the 2nd one is the best of the trilogy by far.

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Re: UFC Top 25 Fights
« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2018, 06:30:44 AM »
Where's Diego/Nick, Diego/Karo, Karo/Nick, etc.

too much grappling, I guess. I'm surprised they ignore their own historically important brawls too, like Huerta/Leonard and Diego/Guida. I mean I'm p. sure both of those were voted at the time as FOTY's, but I understand wanting to push their current product.



i mean fuck this was the beginning of the fight.


I can't believe a guy can be that big, and jump around like he does what a great athlete!

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Re: UFC Top 25 Fights
« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2018, 09:38:37 AM »
Recency bias. All the fights you mentioned deserved a spot. If you want to go older Barnett/Rizzo and Couture/Rizzo 1 deserve a spot

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Re: UFC Top 25 Fights
« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2018, 11:39:40 AM »
Damn how could I forget about Couture/Rizzo I.

Also Couture/Sylvia might be the most epic fight of all time, c'mon. That roar from the opening big right hand, to the roar after the final bell, could be the peak of the sport.


I can't believe a guy can be that big, and jump around like he does what a great athlete!

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Re: UFC Top 25 Fights
« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2018, 12:54:43 PM »
Couture/Sylvia may be the perfect fight to establish if your list is based mostly in significance or in pure entertainment. That first 2-3 minutes is golden and then turns into a wrestling clinic with little retort from the champ. Not as easy to watch for the half hour after that point.

At the same time, that’s one of those fights where you remember exactly where you were when it happened.

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Re: UFC Top 25 Fights
« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2018, 02:17:57 PM »
I disagree about the entertainment, I saw that fight recently and seeing Randy dominate a man much larger than him on the feet and with his wrestling was very interesting to see unfold. To do it in a title fight makes it that much more impressive. The crowd was super into the fight the whole time too.


I can't believe a guy can be that big, and jump around like he does what a great athlete!

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Re: UFC Top 25 Fights
« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2018, 03:21:31 PM »
I don't think they would have a Randy fight on this list because of his feuding with the UFC. It's like in the 2009 list when they didn't have any fights where Tito won.

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Re: UFC Top 25 Fights
« Reply #30 on: March 22, 2018, 12:55:12 AM »
As a Randy fan and somebody who appreciates the nuances of a technical performance what he did against Sylvia was incredible and he should be commended for doing so.

Having said that, watch that fight on mute and all the shine goes away. Although this does raise the interesting question about how much crowd heat plays into making fights "great".