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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #50 on: December 21, 2018, 08:31:37 AM »
Most importantly Homer Bailey is gone.  I’m good with this trade.    Didn’t really give up a big name prospect.

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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #51 on: January 11, 2019, 09:45:01 AM »
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/01/players-avoiding-arbitration-national-league-2.html

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/01/players-avoiding-arbitration-american-league-2.html

Arbitration filing day. As expected, lots of players settled with their teams on one year deals to prevent arbitration hearings.

The Reds have made out like bandits so far compared to the projected salaries by MLBTR:

Tanner Roark           $10M          ($9.8M proj)  +$200K
Yasiel Puig               $9.7M         ($11.3M)       -$1.6M
Scooter Gennett       $9.775M     ($10.7M)        -$925K
Anthony DeSclafani  $2.125M     ($2.1M)         +$25K
Jose Peraza              $2.775M      ($3.6M)        -$825K
Curt Casali               $950K         ($1.3M)        -$350K
Michael Lorenzen      $1.95M        ($1.9M)       +$50K

Total savings versus projections = $3.425M

Alex Wood has not been announced as settling, so he will be the only player to head to arbitration. He has been projected at $9M.
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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #52 on: January 15, 2019, 06:36:19 AM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/former-pitcher-john-wetteland-arrested-on-child-sex-abuse-charge/ar-BBSi0kB

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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #53 on: January 16, 2019, 01:27:50 PM »
Really hoping Machado and Harper sign soon. Tired of wading through Twitter rumors as a White Sox fan

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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #54 on: January 17, 2019, 07:32:12 AM »
Yankees signed Adam Ottavino for 3/27.  The bullpen is stacked yet again with Chapman/Britton/Bettances/Green/Ottavino/Holder and more depth in the minors.  I like our rotation better than most, there's questions with everyone in it for sure, but the ace bullpen makes up for it

Reportedly close to dealing Sonny Gray now too

I like Cash's offseason moves so far, Tulo was a super low risk gamble and DJ will be a very useful super utility guy.  And I still think a big trade from infield/prospect surplus is possible, and you can never rule out an 09 Tex like FA splash for Harper or Machado

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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #55 on: January 17, 2019, 07:59:25 AM »
I guess this will be another year where the big FA fish aren't caught until pitchers and catchers report. 

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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #56 on: February 07, 2019, 07:15:15 AM »
I'll hit on the Realmuto trade later, but the big news of the day is Frank Robinson's passing. Not only a hell of a player but the first African American manager in the majors. One of the true towers of baseball.

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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #57 on: February 08, 2019, 12:09:50 AM »
The Marlines traded JT Realmuto to the Phillies for Jorge Alfaro and two prospects, one of whom (Sixto Sanchez) was the Phillies #1. Sanchez has an electric arm but was hurt a good bit of last year and hasn't really been turned loose yet. It's a risk, but the Phillies are acquiring the best catcher of 2018 and I think you can justify this kind of move when you're a contending team acquiring elite talent.

Sam Miller on espn.com writes that of the Marlins' top 25 in WAR in franchise history, 23 have been traded. Only A.J. Burnett ever reached free agency. The other was Jose Fernandez.

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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #58 on: February 08, 2019, 01:26:47 AM »
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« Reply #59 on: February 08, 2019, 06:01:41 PM »
The Marlines traded JT Realmuto to the Phillies for Jorge Alfaro and two prospects, one of whom (Sixto Sanchez) was the Phillies #1. Sanchez has an electric arm but was hurt a good bit of last year and hasn't really been turned loose yet. It's a risk, but the Phillies are acquiring the best catcher of 2018 and I think you can justify this kind of move when you're a contending team acquiring elite talent.

Sam Miller on espn.com writes that of the Marlins' top 25 in WAR in franchise history, 23 have been traded. Only A.J. Burnett ever reached free agency. The other was Jose Fernandez.

I like the trade for the Phillies. Admittedly I don't know a ton about Sanchez,but I like that the Phillies have two years of Realmuto on a bargain deal so he will be a tremendous value to them right now.


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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #60 on: February 19, 2019, 03:33:02 AM »
Manny Machado to the Padres 10 years - 300 million

Hal, you cheap fuck

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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #61 on: February 19, 2019, 03:44:33 AM »
That's all it took? Geezus. That's pathetic that no one could afford to pay him that.

I honestly don't doubt that another strike is going to happen now. Manny and Harper having to wait this long to be signed is stupid. Yes, they cost a lot, but this isn't like 30 year olds getting this type of money.

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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #62 on: February 19, 2019, 04:14:04 AM »
The Padres are going to be an extremely good team by 2021.

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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #63 on: February 19, 2019, 04:29:57 AM »
I’m not the biggest Machado fan but that’s crazy and good to see him go somewhere unexpected.
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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #64 on: February 19, 2019, 05:20:47 AM »
I love that the Padres spent the money, but that is a whole lot of money for a:

1. Scumbag
2. Guy that has 1 season above an 0.900 OPS so far, which I know isn't that fair since he's still only 27.

I still feel like this is going to be a Stanton like situation where he only plays for 3-4 years before they trade him to one of the big market teams.


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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #65 on: February 19, 2019, 05:25:13 AM »
Manny is lazy as fuck.


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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #66 on: February 19, 2019, 06:46:45 AM »
Machado has missed 11 games combined the last four seasons. Weird behavior for a lazy player.

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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #67 on: February 19, 2019, 08:37:34 AM »
Just because he physically plays in every game doesn't mean he's always trying :)


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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #68 on: February 19, 2019, 08:58:06 AM »
Machado also has an opt out clause after Year 5.

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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #69 on: February 19, 2019, 09:23:53 AM »
I defended him to other Dodger fans very frequently, but there's only so many times you can see a guy come up in a key situation and swing at pitches in or near the dirt before coming to the conclusion that he may not care all that much.

When his decline comes, it will probably be very steep.


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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #70 on: February 20, 2019, 12:24:01 AM »
Mets fans never forgave Carlos Beltran for taking a called third strike, and they never seemed to see it as a sign that he really cared. Laziness is vague charge and being a professional athlete is such a high level position that it is incredibly difficult to reach that spot while being lazy. I don't buy it.

In other news, Don Newcombe passed away at the age of 92. Newcombe was the third African American pitcher to integrate the majors (after Dan Bankhead and Satchel Paige). Won three pennants and a World Series with the Brooklyn Dodgers. Missed two more because of the Korean War. After his MLB career, Newcombe spent a year in Japan and was the second best hitter on the Chunichi Dragons.

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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #71 on: February 20, 2019, 07:27:37 AM »
yeah remember Bobby Abreu was "lazy" because he wouldn't "run into" walls?  And he was always looking to walk in high leverage situations because he had no heart or something.  Odd criticisms indeed

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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #72 on: February 21, 2019, 02:31:06 AM »
Mariners/Athletics exhibition game today. Our long national nightmare is over.

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yeah remember Bobby Abreu was "lazy" because he wouldn't "run into" walls?  And he was always looking to walk in high leverage situations because he had no heart or something.  Odd criticisms indeed

The frustrating part as an Abreu fan is hearing that stuff 15 years later as his Hall of Fame case is argued. Usually the players accused of being lazy are of a certain ethnicity. There are players who break themselves hustling all over the field and miss 20-30 games a season. There are players who are workmanlike and unexpressive and play 162 games. Pete Rose was the one player in history who could do both. I don't think we as fans can really tell. The truly lazy players wash out long, long before MLB and I don't think it's possible to coast on pure talent as it might've been 50 years ago.

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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #73 on: February 22, 2019, 02:03:41 AM »
Let's try this again. Four games on the schedule today. Northwestern vs Red Sox and Athletics vs Mariners on MLB Network.

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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #74 on: February 22, 2019, 05:55:53 AM »
Looks like it'll be an interesting battle coming up...

https://nesn.com/2019/02/dodgers-clayton-kershaw-says-he-will-completely-ignore-pitch-clock/

"I’m not going to pay any attention to it,” the Dodgers left-hander said Monday. “And if I go over it then I go over ... But I think there’s ways to fake it. If it looks like it’s winding down or something you can step off. I’m sure there are ways around it."

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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #75 on: February 22, 2019, 06:45:33 AM »
I've never seen a pitcher actually penalized for it. In AAA the clock itself is the only visible evidence that the pitch clock exists.

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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #77 on: February 28, 2019, 06:36:29 AM »
No opt outs too and a no trade clause, so he has to live in Philadelphia for 13 years.

I wanted him really bad at a point, but that contract is insane for a guy that batted under .250 and had around a 1.5 WAR in two of the last three years. He might be good for 5 or 6 years, but I don't know how 34-39 year old Bryce Harper will look when your paying him 25 million a year.

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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #78 on: February 28, 2019, 07:44:26 AM »
The Phillies over spent, gave him a full no trade, and there is no opt out. This is the most Mets deal ever, and the Mets didn't even make it.
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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #79 on: February 28, 2019, 07:53:54 AM »
The Yankees will probably be paying the last 7 to 8 years of that contract.

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« Reply #80 on: February 28, 2019, 08:01:42 AM »
The Yankees will probably be paying the last 7 to 8 years of that contract.
This. They love aging players with massive contracts that can't stay on the field.


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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #81 on: February 28, 2019, 08:31:44 AM »
The Phillies over spent, gave him a full no trade, and there is no opt out. This is the most Mets deal ever, and the Mets didn't even make it.

If last year didn't make me feel better about Price's deal, this sure as hell does.  I kinda am terrified now about what Mookie is gonna command in a few years.

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« Reply #82 on: February 28, 2019, 08:42:08 AM »
The Phillies over spent, gave him a full no trade, and there is no opt out. This is the most Mets deal ever, and the Mets didn't even make it.

If last year didn't make me feel better about Price's deal, this sure as hell does.  I kinda am terrified now about what Mookie is gonna command in a few years.

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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #83 on: February 28, 2019, 11:02:44 AM »
The Phillies over spent, gave him a full no trade, and there is no opt out. This is the most Mets deal ever, and the Mets didn't even make it.

If last year didn't make me feel better about Price's deal, this sure as hell does.  I kinda am terrified now about what Mookie is gonna command in a few years.

Trout next year should be very interesting.
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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #84 on: February 28, 2019, 11:06:04 AM »
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« Reply #85 on: February 28, 2019, 12:36:22 PM »
Looks like both Clay Buchholz and Bud Norris signed deals with the Blue Jays today.


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« Reply #86 on: February 28, 2019, 12:37:51 PM »
The Yankees will probably be paying the last 7 to 8 years of that contract.
This. They love aging players with massive contracts that can't stay on the field.

That's more of a George Steinbrenner thing.
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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #87 on: February 28, 2019, 01:36:10 PM »
Clay was pretty solid for the Diamondbacks last year.  He just spent his career either surprising when expecting nothing or underwhelming if you have expectations. 
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« Reply #88 on: February 28, 2019, 02:23:34 PM »
I think those are both pretty good signings for the Blue Jays. I agree Clay played really well for the DBacks, so he will probably have some positive value for Toronto.

Seems like now on March 1st the big FA's left are:

Dallas Keuchel
Gio Gonzalez
Craig Kimbrel
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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #89 on: February 28, 2019, 02:48:16 PM »
He might be good for 5 or 6 years, but I don't know how 34-39 year old Bryce Harper will look when your paying him 25 million a year.



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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #90 on: February 28, 2019, 09:53:24 PM »
Dunno if I can get behind that Bryce Harper deal. He's no Mike Trout.

You're paying a guy a record $330 Million hoping you get the .319/.330 BA guy and not the .250 or .270 hitter who slugged under .500. His 2015 is looking more like a major aberration career year than the norm to expect but I guess the Phillies are hoping he'll do better in a more favorable HR park while playing 4-6 years in the "prime" of his career.

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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #91 on: March 01, 2019, 12:43:57 AM »
A lot to digest in the Harper deal obviously. It's easy to get fixated on the low batting average, but Harper led the NL in walks and had a .393 OBP last season. I don't expect Harper to hit over .300 most of the time. But his career batting average is .279 and that's more than acceptable. Harmon Killebrew's was .256, Reggie Jackson's was .262 and they're both in the Hall.

As far as the money, the reality is this is the only way the Phillies will acquire a player of this caliber and potential. They can wait around 5-10 years and hope a farm player pays off. They traded their #1 prospect and got J.T. Realmuto. They can either overpay for Harper or they can put a big pile of money in right field and see if it can catch a fly ball. This is baseball economics. $22 million a season a decade from now? That can be a complete sunk cost and it's also chump change. Of course Harper will be a liability by then. My hope is that he's basically Matt Stairs. But is that worse than being the Pittsburgh Pirates, admiring all the money you're not wasting and finishing fourth every year?


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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #92 on: March 05, 2019, 03:37:03 AM »
One historical tidbit with the talk of contracts. In the 2000-01 offseason before they moved into PNC Park, the Pirates agreed to a $60 million contract extension with Jason Kendall. Nearly 20 years into an existence at a park the Pirates needed to be financially competitive, and they still have not issued a larger contract.

Seriously. Your projected payroll is about $74 million. You won 82 games in 2018, 91 would get you in the playoffs. Your shortstop is leaving via free agency and your incoming shortstop is the Indians' utility infielder. You have less than $20 million committed after the season, you have gaping holes in your infield, a clear benefit for marginal wins and you're not interested in a free agent who can play shortstop and hit 35 HRs a season? GTFOH.

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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #93 on: March 11, 2019, 10:38:31 AM »
GUess we should start a spring training thread but since there isn’t one, the Diamondbacks just picked up Adam Jones
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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #94 on: March 12, 2019, 12:40:33 AM »
One of the more curious spring training developments is that Mike Moustakas, who has never played an inning at second base in the majors or minors, will be the Brewers' starting second baseman.

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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #96 on: March 14, 2019, 03:43:20 AM »
https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-rules-changes

Summary:

-Shorter Inning Breaks. YES!

-August Trade Deadline eliminated. July 31 is the final day for trades. Probably kills a bit of interest for down and out teams hoping to scrap something from a late trade, but good for fair competition. Also saves us explaining the waiver trade process every year.

-Second round of All Star voting. All voting is really a vehicle to advertise Camping World or whatever. I don't get worked up about it anymore.

-Home Run Derby winner gets $1 million. Nice gimmick.

-Less Mound Visits. From six to five. Positive, this is an invisible change anyway.

-Roster changes in 2020. 25 man roster increases to 26, expanded roster in September decreases to 28. GREAT for minor league fans. Good for competition. Bad for minor league players who would get big league money in September. Do like this overall.

-Position players aren't allowed to pitch unless it's a six run game or extra innings. This is kind of confusing as written as there's a loophole to allow Shohei Ohtani to do his thing, but it closes if Ohtani doesn't pitch 20 innings this year. Requires clarification.

-Three batter minimum for relievers.

-Disabled list will be restored to 15 days.

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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #97 on: March 14, 2019, 05:37:10 AM »
https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-rules-changes

Summary:

-Shorter Inning Breaks. YES!

-August Trade Deadline eliminated. July 31 is the final day for trades. Probably kills a bit of interest for down and out teams hoping to scrap something from a late trade, but good for fair competition. Also saves us explaining the waiver trade process every year.

-Roster changes in 2020. 25 man roster increases to 26, expanded roster in September decreases to 28. GREAT for minor league fans. Good for competition. Bad for minor league players who would get big league money in September. Do like this overall.

-Three batter minimum for relievers.

-Disabled list will be restored to 15 days.

My thoughts
#1: Good, especially the lowering breaks from 2:25 to 2:00 for national games. Should make games go much faster in general.
#2: I really like this as the 'Trade Deadline' should be an actual deadline. It may harm lesser market teams swinging late deals but it also ensures at least 2 Months for "Rentals" and adds some excitement for the actual day from a marketing/PR standpoint.
#3: Another one I really like. Should help minor leagues keep a fuller roster, lets players who may've just rotted away on the bench in the Majors get legitimate playing time, and forces teams to be smarter about which players they want to call up at the end of the year. Could also effect the trade deadline if a team that sucks decides to try and see what they have in younger talent shipping off older veterans.
#4: RIP Loogys but I'm a fan of this as well. Given how deep bullpens are nowadays, there's no excuse to have a RP who only faces 1 or 2 batters.
#5: I don't care about this either way. Feels like a move partly aimed towards 'fantasy' but it does help alleviate some of the roster chaos of calling up a guy for 3 games only to send them down by the end of the week and accrue lesser 'Service Time' then they may have warranted in another situation.

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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #98 on: March 14, 2019, 06:02:32 AM »
Thoughts on the three batter minimum:

One of my prime complaints over the last couple years is the sheer number of pitchers that shuffle through major league rosters. The Colorado Rockies used the least number of pitchers last season, 21. The Toronto Blue Jays used 36 pitchers. It's difficult to get emotionally invested in a game when the participants feel like random individuals. In my opinion, any move that forces managers to keep pitchers in longer is good for baseball.

Strategy wise it's a push, maybe a net positive. You can change pitchers between innings so you might go to your lefty in a tight spot with two outs knowing that if he doesn't get his batter, he has to stay in. I didn't think I would like it but the more I think about it, I like it.

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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2019: Pitch Clock Imminent?
« Reply #99 on: March 14, 2019, 01:09:39 PM »
I guess to me should there be a max on PH's per inning or per game? Don't get me wrong the pitching changes can be excessive, but I still think it can be strategic.