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Re: UFC 235
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2019, 09:20:43 AM »
Also, card

Main Card (PPV)

Jon Jones vs Anthony Smith- LHW Championship
Tyron Woodley vs Kamaru Usman- WW Championship
Ben Askren vs Robbie Lawler
Welei Zhang vs Tecia Torres
Cody Garbrandt vs Pedo Munhoz

Prelims (ESPN)

Jeremy Stephens vs Zabit Magomedsharipov
Misha Cirkunov vs Johnny Walker
Cody Stamann vs Alejandro Perez
Diego Sanchez vs Mickey Gall

Prelims (Fight Pass)

Edmen Shahbahzyan vs Charlie Byrd
Gina Mazany vs Macy Chiasson
Polyanna Vianna vs Hannah Cifers

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Re: UFC 235
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2019, 09:15:05 AM »
This is what happens when the UFC offers up shit like last months' PPV: when a great one comes along nobody cares.

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Re: UFC 235
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2019, 02:20:40 AM »
This card has a lot of big names, but a lot of the matchups seem one-sided on paper, at least to me. I'm surprised the odds are so close for Woodley/Usman, I think Woodley will run through him.


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Re: UFC 235
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2019, 02:39:22 AM »
I'm really excited for this show. The main event probably will be a slaughter, but the way Jones is looking past Smith is giving me GSP/Serra 1 vibes. I might be more excited for Zabit/Stephens than anything on the show tbh.

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Re: UFC 235
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2019, 04:26:53 AM »
It also appears like interest in Jon Jones is significantly down going into this event. I don't know if it's because people don't care about him fighting Anthony Smith, or a backlash to the roids stuff. He's not getting as many Youtube views as Woodley or Askren, and other metrics seem to look bad too as far as interest in this event goes.

The Lawler/Askren odds are closer than a lot of people expected, but even though Lawler is past his best, he's still better comp than any of the guys Askren has faced the past few years. Terrible style matchup for Askren too, so it's a good way for people to see if he can replicate his style against ranked UFC competition.

I also think Zabit is gonna style on Stephens.


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Re: UFC 235
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2019, 11:34:50 AM »
DIEGO looked great

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Re: UFC 235
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2019, 12:11:15 PM »
Johnny Walker is terrifying.

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Re: UFC 235
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2019, 12:12:31 PM »
I would bet everything in my bank account that he will be a champ.


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Re: UFC 235
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2019, 01:23:38 PM »
Cody's chutzpah does him in yet again.

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Re: UFC 235
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2019, 01:25:08 PM »
Cody's chutzpah does him in yet again.

Cruz couldn’t touch the guy now he’s getting lit up in the next three fights.

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Re: UFC 235
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2019, 01:30:10 PM »
Cody sucks. He fights like he’s spamming the power punch button. Too easy for someone experienced like Munhoz

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Re: UFC 235
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2019, 02:12:37 PM »
More excited for Ben vs Robbie than anything else tonight.

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Re: UFC 235
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2019, 02:19:58 PM »
Wow. Crazy fight, terrible ending.

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Re: UFC 235
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2019, 02:20:15 PM »
Why did he act like his arm was limp

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Re: UFC 235
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2019, 02:20:36 PM »
Jesus Christ. Robbie with the Death Valley driver and gave Askren more damage in thirty seconds than he’s taken in his whole career... only for the bulldog choke outta nowhere!

Robbie seems ok with the stoppage. Must have know he dipped out. Still not even sure if he did.

That fight also could have been stopped early. I’ve seen fighters take less damage than Askren did there and the ref call it.

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Re: UFC 235
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2019, 02:24:53 PM »
Why did he act like his arm was limp

This. Very strange if he actually was still conscious.

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Re: UFC 235
« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2019, 02:57:01 PM »
This ref sucks ass

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Re: UFC 235
« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2019, 03:06:59 PM »
Dana's erection is probably visible from space.

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Re: UFC 235
« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2019, 03:09:57 PM »
Was that the most a champion has been dominated in a five round fight?

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Re: UFC 235
« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2019, 03:59:46 PM »
I don’t know if I’ve seen a fighter less interested in being in a fight than Smith right now.

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Re: UFC 235
« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2019, 04:01:45 PM »
I don’t know if I’ve seen a fighter less interested in being in a fight than Smith right now.

Tyron Woodley

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Re: UFC 235
« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2019, 04:07:58 PM »
Christ that fight was torture. Smith’s corner shouldn’t have let him come out for five. He was barely even moving in round four.

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Re: UFC 235
« Reply #23 on: March 02, 2019, 04:21:50 PM »
Card was pretty good up until the title fights, which is basically how I thought it would go down.

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Re: UFC 235
« Reply #24 on: March 02, 2019, 04:41:14 PM »
Jones needs to go to HW or stfu.  I don't want to hear him talk about "young fighters coming up at LHW that look great" People aren't stupid, the LHW division is devoid of elite fighters at the proper stage in their career to be fighting for the title.  The challenges for Bones are at HW where his reach advantage isn't going to neutralize opponent's offense.  I don't need to see UFC just throwing guys at Bones way too early so Bones can pad his stats.
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Re: UFC 235
« Reply #25 on: March 02, 2019, 05:22:25 PM »
Johnny Walker will beat Jones, 205 isn't devoid of anything.

Give Walker a step up fight and make it happen.


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Re: UFC 235
« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2019, 05:24:19 PM »
Johnny Walker will beat Jones, 205 isn't devoid of anything.

Give Walker a step up fight and make it happen.

You think he beats Bones right now, if they fight in the fall?
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Re: UFC 235
« Reply #27 on: March 02, 2019, 05:33:43 PM »
It's worth the risk. Give Walker someone like Gus and then if he wins have him fight Jones immediately. He could get outclassed, but it's worth trying anyone to see if they can beat Jones.

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Re: UFC 235
« Reply #28 on: March 02, 2019, 10:46:18 PM »
Big difference between the guys Walker has beaten and who Jones has.

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Re: UFC 235
« Reply #29 on: March 03, 2019, 01:43:43 AM »
Cruz dominates the commentary with analysis and Anik talks about facts nobody cares about. They both ignore the fight and don't have much passion when calling it. For all the shitting on Goldberg, at least he mostly called the action and would get excited when something happened. Rogan/Goldberg would have made the Lawler/Askren fight a lot cooler.

Regarding Robbie's arm, you're not really thinking about acting for the ref in that moment. When you're grappling, you can relax the arm because you're not using it. His arm was moving before Herb stepped in also, and it even looked like Herb apologized after the fight which is why they were slappin' hands. I personally thought it was a terrible stoppage and robbed Lawler of a career-defining win and a path to a title shot or perfect win to retire on. Also we missed out on a potentially GOAT-level fight/debut. They might try to run it back.

Askren looked like he went out from that GnP due to the same relaxed technique, rolling with the punches as best he could in that situation. Rogan even said he thought he was out cold. I thought it made Askren look bad to talk shit after that, and the crowd thought the same. I was super impressed though with his ability to still implement his skills after taking that much damage to the head. His toughness and athleticism is unreal.

I skipped most of the championship rounds for the two title fights. It became apparent what was gonna happen before that. Woodley really has issues with guys who make him fight backwards, that's why I thought that Colby had a better chance than others. I thought he would be able to counter Usman better but after the first round it was clear what was gonna happen. I also underrated Usman's wrestling skills, especially his ability to dominate the clinch. Jones was right, the Randy Couture era is back.

As much as I hate to admit it, Colby is a good heel. He gets people legit mad and interested in what he's doing. And he's super tough and skilled so he keeps winning to stay relevant. The Fake UFC title bit even works better now because the new look title is kinda shitty.


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Re: UFC 235
« Reply #30 on: March 03, 2019, 02:02:53 AM »
Rewatching Askren/Lawler and hearing the explanations from everyone makes the ending worse. I thought Robbie dipped out and was ultimately cool with the stoppage. Sounds like he was just alright with it because accidents happen. I also think Askren was out and Robbie woke him up with another punch.

Happy to see Gall get smashed. Calling out a guy who’s best days were a decade ago but has name value felt cheap.

I could do without Colby because it’s a total character. I believe that he’s an asshole, but nothing else rings true about him. He only fought once last year. I’d rather remember him by his fights rather than his fake promos. With the way he fought RDA I was on board. He was a monster that night. With no other contender lined up I’m ok with the match up for the belt.

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Re: UFC 235
« Reply #31 on: March 03, 2019, 02:29:30 AM »
I didn't realize how much I couldn't stand Cruz on commentary until last night. He says so many words without really saying anything and he keeps repeating himself. Then he cuts guys off to keep up the same talking point for minutes it seems like. Give me DC, Dan Hardy, and Felder anyday.

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Re: UFC 235
« Reply #32 on: March 03, 2019, 03:36:35 AM »
There are replays from fan-shot videos cageside of Herb checking Robbie's arm when it was "limp", Robbie flashes the thumbs up which Herb either misses or completely ignored and he stops the fight. It won't get overturned to a NC but it should and they're going to do the rematch so I'm ok with it more or less. The UFC Ottawa card in June needs a main event and this would be a great one, a MAGA chud like Askren would draw sick heel heat in Canada.

I think for his own personal safety Misha Cirkunov should retire from mma. I know that the way Walker connected on the flying knee would have floored anybody but he looked scared to be in there and was on the verge of tapping to strikes before the ref stopped the fight. He's shown on multiple occasions that he can't take any kind of punishment or pressure, I'm sure all the personal issues he's had going on outside the cage aren't helping either (wife is currently battling cancer).

I don't understand the logic of the co-main being boring. I'm always fascinated when champions who have been so dominant are completely shut down and taken out of their element and the last time we saw a challenger step up and do that was when RDA dismantled Pettis. For all of the dominance he displayed I think the criticisms of Woodley being mentally weak came back last night, he looked like he did when Rory picked him apart, scared and completely out of it.

Weili Zhang is awesome and I'm totally alright with her fighting JJ, Suarez or Ansaroff next.

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Re: UFC 235
« Reply #33 on: March 03, 2019, 07:43:27 AM »
I didn't find either co-main boring.  Seeing Woodley dominated was a spectacle in itself.

Jones vs. Smith wasn't boring so much as it was predictable as hell.  A guy who was no where near ready to be in that position, being force fed to an all-time great due merely because there is a lack of contenders actually ready for that spot.  If Bones stays at LHW, that is likely what his next handful of fights are going to be.

Re: Colby, I agree with what was already said, the reason he is annoying and unlikable is because he is a pure character.  He basically combines the worst elements of Conor and Chael into one person.  The #MAGA bullshit is just the cherry on top to make it even more intolerable.  When it comes to trash talk I'd much rather listen to a guy like Askren who at least sounds like he is speaking off the cuff and what is actually on his mind as opposed to a guy who likely rehearses his routine in the mirror 1000 times before the camera is turned on.
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Re: UFC 235
« Reply #34 on: March 03, 2019, 03:21:21 PM »
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Re: UFC 235
« Reply #35 on: March 04, 2019, 02:02:54 AM »
I didn't find either co-main boring.  Seeing Woodley dominated was a spectacle in itself.

I wouldn't go so far as to say they were super boring to watch live, but they definitely aren't anything I'm going to want to go back and rewatch for entertainment purposes anytime soon.

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Re: UFC 235
« Reply #36 on: March 04, 2019, 02:14:43 AM »
I found Woodley/Usman entertaining. I was falling asleep for Jones/Smith.

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Re: UFC 235
« Reply #37 on: March 04, 2019, 02:23:59 AM »
Woodley plays himself off so much as a poor poor pitiful me character that I was totally entertained watching him get grapple-fucked and beaten on for 25. Those shots to the ribs while Usman had him against the cage looked awful.

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Re: UFC 235
« Reply #38 on: March 04, 2019, 06:04:13 AM »
Usman destroying Woodley was great. It's always a pleasure to see someone who used to be a decent to good all around fighter get thoroughly decimated after falling in love with one aspect of their game to the extent Woodley did with his counter striking and specifically the right hand.