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Re: NBA Offseason 2019
« Reply #200 on: June 20, 2019, 05:09:30 PM »
I realize Bol Bol fell to the middle of the second round, but if he's a good or great talent, him and Jokic could be a nice 1-2 for Denver.

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Re: NBA Offseason 2019
« Reply #201 on: June 21, 2019, 08:05:55 AM »
I wanted the Lakers to buy up to pick him. I think he could be as good as Porzingis. I have read that his foot may be permanently damaged though.


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Re: NBA Offseason 2019
« Reply #203 on: June 22, 2019, 05:02:49 AM »
Celtics already have their Horford replacement

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Re: NBA Offseason 2019
« Reply #204 on: June 22, 2019, 08:00:29 AM »
Well that's surprising. I would've figured that Tacko Fall got a contract picked just on his size. Even if it was like the last of the 2nd round type of picks. Good on the Cs, and I'm probably betting that he makes the team or goes to the G-League for them.

Also, just read in the article that he's apparently got a full degree in programming (the type of degree that guarantees a 125k salary), so if he doesn't make it as a basketball player (or even if he plays), he definitely can make a living outside of it.

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Re: NBA Offseason 2019
« Reply #206 on: June 24, 2019, 02:51:43 AM »
Tyler Johnson accepted his Player option for $19.3 million for the 19-20 season. Man, Summer of 2016 was a crazy time...


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« Reply #207 on: June 24, 2019, 04:13:55 AM »
Jimmer will be on the Warriors Summer League Team
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« Reply #208 on: June 24, 2019, 07:18:11 AM »

Feel like the Blazers got a steal here
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Re: NBA Offseason 2019
« Reply #209 on: June 25, 2019, 04:32:00 AM »
There is now a lot of talk that the Lakers want to bring back D'Lo. They had to trade him in order to get LeBron, that would be a nice reunion though.


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« Reply #210 on: June 25, 2019, 01:37:42 PM »
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« Reply #211 on: June 25, 2019, 01:47:50 PM »
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Re: NBA Offseason 2019
« Reply #212 on: June 25, 2019, 03:54:04 PM »

If this happens, I will officially enter the denial part of the stages of grief over the Celtics' championship window closing.

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Re: NBA Offseason 2019
« Reply #213 on: June 26, 2019, 04:13:10 AM »
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Back in February, ahead of a Golden State Warriors game at Oracle Arena, Don Nelson was asked what he's been up to since he retired from coaching.

The answer from the ex-NBA coach, who last coached for the Warriors in 2010, made everyone in the room burst out laughing.

"I've been smoking some pot," Nelson said. "But I never smoked when I played or coached, so it's new to me."

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In an interview with HBO's "Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel," Nelson revealed that he grows marijuana on his farm in Maui. His pot, called "Nellie Kush," is not for sale, as it's for his personal medicinal use. He did not specify what condition he was treating.

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« Reply #214 on: June 26, 2019, 04:45:51 AM »
I saw some other clip where he said he got fired from the Knicks in the 90s by suggesting they trade Ewing to the Magic for Shaq
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Re: NBA Offseason 2019
« Reply #215 on: June 26, 2019, 06:08:08 AM »
"I never smoked when I played or coached"

lol, ok king of the bankshot and the fun n gun.  I know a stoner b-ball head when I see one.  someone needs to get dude on the record about coaching while tripped the fuck out on acid

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« Reply #216 on: June 26, 2019, 05:05:21 PM »
Looks like the Jazz are going to not pick up Derrick Favors option and he'll be a UFA. I'm torn, not sure the Jazz can get a guy long term in the $15-17 million range better than Favs, but I do like them trying to figure out how to maximize the next 2-3 years of the Mitchell-Gobert-Conley core.


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« Reply #217 on: June 26, 2019, 09:39:40 PM »
I like Favors but they really need more of a stretch 4, versatile PF to put next to Gobert.  I don't remember the numbers off hand but Utah wasn't nearly as efficient offensively with both on the floor, and they had to stagger their minutes.  Favors is really a 5 in today's NBA, and similar to Indiana with Turner and Sabonis two of their best players are redundant to a degree 

I think Mirotic is a good target, but the guy I'd want is Julius Randle.  I think he fits well with Gobert, is a scorer and can create his own shot, and he's got shooting range.  He's not a sharpshooter like Mirotic, but I think he could fit in really well on that team.  Not sure what the cap situation is, but Tobias Harris would be an ideal fit IMO.  Marcus Morris would be good too.

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Re: NBA Offseason 2019
« Reply #218 on: June 27, 2019, 05:27:30 AM »
Lakers got help they needed to clear room for max. AD waived trade kicker. Disgusting how teams help the Lakers.

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« Reply #219 on: June 27, 2019, 05:30:36 AM »
Lakers got help they needed to clear room for max. AD waived trade kicker. Disgusting how teams help the Lakers.

Lakers get rewarded for possibly their most chaotic season ever by landing one of the top players in the league.  They then proceed to fuck that up but get this gift now.  I'm tempted to offer a sig bet on the Pelicans having a better record than the Lakers, which sounds ludicrous but I don't really believe in Davis staying healthy and LeBron ain't getting any younger.

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« Reply #220 on: June 27, 2019, 05:33:28 AM »
Lakers got help they needed to clear room for max. AD waived trade kicker. Disgusting how teams help the Lakers.

Lakers get rewarded for possibly their most chaotic season ever by landing one of the top players in the league.  They then proceed to fuck that up but get this gift now.  I'm tempted to offer a sig bet on the Pelicans having a better record than the Lakers, which sounds ludicrous but I don't really believe in Davis staying healthy and LeBron ain't getting any younger.

Yeah let's go dude, there is no way that happens. They're going to sign Kawhi. Even looking at it outside of that, the Pelicans have a team full of players who can't shoot.

Rob Pelinka just unfucked Magic's horrible first round pick decision, GOOD JOB BRO. FWIW I think Bonga and Jones are actually good. Good deal for Washington cause they need young players and have very little cap space.


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Re: NBA Offseason 2019
« Reply #221 on: June 27, 2019, 05:42:29 AM »
Davis waiving the trade kicker was part of the deal in the first place, something I expected all along. That guy wanted to be a Laker and passed up a shitload of money to make it happen, he was gonna make sure that he had the best team around him that they could create. Kawhi or Butler will be on the squad next season, guaranteed.


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« Reply #222 on: June 27, 2019, 05:58:28 AM »
Davis waiving the trade kicker was part of the deal in the first place, something I expected all along. That guy wanted to be a Laker and passed up a shitload of money to make it happen, he was gonna make sure that he had the best team around him that they could create. Kawhi or Butler will be on the squad next season, guaranteed.

No way Kawhi goes there

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Re: NBA Offseason 2019
« Reply #223 on: June 27, 2019, 06:01:28 AM »
He set a meeting with the Lakers lol.


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« Reply #224 on: June 27, 2019, 06:06:30 AM »
He set a meeting with the Lakers lol.

No way Kawhi goes there

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« Reply #225 on: June 27, 2019, 07:34:44 AM »
I like Favors but they really need more of a stretch 4, versatile PF to put next to Gobert.  I don't remember the numbers off hand but Utah wasn't nearly as efficient offensively with both on the floor, and they had to stagger their minutes.  Favors is really a 5 in today's NBA, and similar to Indiana with Turner and Sabonis two of their best players are redundant to a degree 

I think Mirotic is a good target, but the guy I'd want is Julius Randle.  I think he fits well with Gobert, is a scorer and can create his own shot, and he's got shooting range.  He's not a sharpshooter like Mirotic, but I think he could fit in really well on that team.  Not sure what the cap situation is, but Tobias Harris would be an ideal fit IMO.  Marcus Morris would be good too.

The Jazz basically have the $17 million that hinges on whether they keep Favors and a $5.3 million Tax Payer MLE I believe.


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Re: NBA Offseason 2019
« Reply #226 on: June 27, 2019, 07:42:26 AM »
Jimmer will be on the Warriors Summer League Team

FREE JIMMER! Screw defense, I just want to see him jacking up deep 3's and settling into a Kyle Korver-esque career as a 3 point specialist. Let him average 9-13 PPG as a bench scoring weapon.

While NBA rests on individual talent, I do think some NBA coaches overthink roles or expectations. Jimmer was a fucking awful fit in Sacramento for a HC who desired 2 way play but could work as a bench option 3 point shooter who can give you 10-15 minutes a night.

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Re: NBA Offseason 2019
« Reply #227 on: June 27, 2019, 10:02:17 AM »
I'm really surprised that the Lakers managed to get the cap space done. Going to be interesting who they bring in as a third, as with Ujiri staying with the Raptors, even I'm now finding it hard that Kawhi is staying. After all, I doubt Ujiri stays if Kawhi wasn't.

Edit: Though, I won't be surprised if he does go home. I'd bet more on the Clippers though than Lakers.

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« Reply #228 on: June 27, 2019, 11:34:38 AM »
I know Kemba Walker is NOT Kyrie Irving talent wise, but he's close enough and replacing Kyrie with Kemba is a HUGE upgrade for me as a fan of the Celtics. I don't even care if they still aren't championship caliber, I just want a team I can enjoy rooting for.

If they can somewhow swing Capela without giving up too much, even better.


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« Reply #229 on: June 27, 2019, 02:04:49 PM »
Jimmer will be on the Warriors Summer League Team

FREE JIMMER! Screw defense, I just want to see him jacking up deep 3's and settling into a Kyle Korver-esque career as a 3 point specialist. Let him average 9-13 PPG as a bench scoring weapon.

While NBA rests on individual talent, I do think some NBA coaches overthink roles or expectations. Jimmer was a fucking awful fit in Sacramento for a HC who desired 2 way play but could work as a bench option 3 point shooter who can give you 10-15 minutes a night.

I think an underrated thing that some teams don't look at enough is the five to six minutes stretch in the 2nd quarter and less time at the end of the 3rd and early 4th quarters for guys like Jimmer or the traditional, old school centers. If teams are going down to 8 man rotations in the playoffs, I'd certainly entertain a guy like Jimmer to have a chance of being on my team for like you said 10-13 minutes per game.


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« Reply #230 on: June 27, 2019, 02:11:09 PM »
I've always been a "Give Jimmer a Chance" guy because I saw some stretches of him getting screwed over in Sacramento in a time where much of that team was mismanaged and I feel someone that can just hit shots like that has a spot somewhere, especially in this NBA.

That being said, he finished the season with the lowly Suns this year and did some mad stupid stuff, stepping on Booker's toes and blocking Booker from some marks to go into business for himself.  I figured he was done here after that but very curious how that behavior translates to other teams (if they even are aware of it).
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« Reply #231 on: June 27, 2019, 02:25:30 PM »
You can't give him a chance because defense is important and he can't play it. You stick him on the floor and the other team will score 15 points as quickly as possible.


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« Reply #232 on: June 27, 2019, 02:28:50 PM »
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« Reply #233 on: June 27, 2019, 02:58:47 PM »
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« Reply #234 on: June 27, 2019, 03:01:36 PM »
I'm very intrigued by Baby Shoes insight about stepping on Booker's toes. I don't think Jimmer is unplayable in 2nd units, that said if he is that big of a headache then he isn't worth it, but I think to dismiss players because they can make a lot of 3s but is a bad defender is not a great way of looking at team construct.


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« Reply #235 on: June 28, 2019, 01:17:35 AM »
Lakers got help they needed to clear room for max. AD waived trade kicker. Disgusting how teams help the Lakers.

Lakers get rewarded for possibly their most chaotic season ever by landing one of the top players in the league.  They then proceed to fuck that up but get this gift now.  I'm tempted to offer a sig bet on the Pelicans having a better record than the Lakers, which sounds ludicrous but I don't really believe in Davis staying healthy and LeBron ain't getting any younger.

Yeah let's go dude, there is no way that happens. They're going to sign Kawhi. Even looking at it outside of that, the Pelicans have a team full of players who can't shoot.

Rob Pelinka just unfucked Magic's horrible first round pick decision, GOOD JOB BRO. FWIW I think Bonga and Jones are actually good. Good deal for Washington cause they need young players and have very little cap space.

You don't actually think that what's happened with the lakers in the past week has been part of some master plan, do you?

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Re: NBA Offseason 2019
« Reply #236 on: June 28, 2019, 03:49:54 AM »
https://twitter.com/EricPincus/statuses/1111896933780475906

Open and read starting there. There was a plan. There was no master plan because Magic was in charge at that point, but they signed that dude because they wanted to trade him.


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« Reply #237 on: June 28, 2019, 04:37:10 AM »

I was just talking about this guy with someone here, hoping that the Bulls didn't give him big money. lol


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« Reply #238 on: June 28, 2019, 05:59:31 AM »
https://twitter.com/EricPincus/statuses/1111896933780475906

Open and read starting there. There was a plan. There was no master plan because Magic was in charge at that point, but they signed that dude because they wanted to trade him.

If you say so, man. From my point of view, it looks like y'all (meaning lakers fans) started with a premise, and worked your way backwards, modifying the story as needed to fit the facts. I don't actually believe that a lakers beat writer saying, "This is what I've been saying that the lakers need to do, and we ended up here, so clearly, this proves it was the plan, all along!" equates to that actually being the plan. To me, that's like when Shaq or Barkley take credit for another player's success on TNT: "I said that he needed to step up, and he did, so clearly, he was listening to me!"

You want me to believe that it's as simple as the lakers going from dumpster fire to competent, overnight, when Magic quit. As if the lakers haven't been a dumpster fire for close to a decade. As if Pelinka and Magic didn't come in at the same damned time. As if Pelinka is some sort of prodigy, that Magic was holding back for two years. Nah playa, I'm not gonna be able to do it.

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« Reply #239 on: June 28, 2019, 06:19:06 AM »
Pelinka is definitely no genius. What I am saying is that they did have a plan and executed it well. I also think that almost every GM should be able to execute such a plan, which certainly would not make someone genius material should they do it.

The fact is that it was reported last summer that Kawhi wanted to play with LeBron. It was also reported that Davis wanted to do the same. It would take a complete moron to be unable to pull that off within the salary cap structure of the league when they have an abundance of assets to make it happen. To fail to create that third max spot would have been really stupid, I think most GMs could pull that off. So, in short, I think there was a plan but that executing it is not a big deal.


There is certainly a level of competency that exists now, but I wouldn’t go overboard about it. Let’s note that Magic wanted to take back Solomon Hill, which would have made it impossible to create that third max slot.


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« Reply #240 on: June 28, 2019, 07:19:54 AM »
Looks like Klay is likely staying with the Warriors, as they plan to offer him the full max, per ESPN
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« Reply #241 on: June 28, 2019, 08:19:02 AM »
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« Reply #242 on: June 28, 2019, 08:40:19 AM »
MAGIC GONNA SEAL THE DEAL THE PLAN

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« Reply #243 on: June 28, 2019, 08:55:42 AM »
All three guys will be able to rest instead of playing 82 and getting injured or the team being bad. It’s the perfect plan to sell someone on.


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« Reply #244 on: June 28, 2019, 09:00:05 AM »
Magic already said he's not allowed to be in the meetings.
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« Reply #245 on: June 28, 2019, 09:04:53 AM »
You guys thought you were done with me, didn't you?  Reality check, everyone.  The Lakers need Magic Johnson.  I am part of their identity, part of their fabric.  A fabric that has come unraveled over the last decade, and it was me that began to re-stitch everything last summer.  Do you think all the stars are coming back to Los Angeles because of Rob Pelinka?  Of course not!  Who was the man who convinced LeBron James to become the King of L.A.?  Who put this thing together?  Me, that's who!

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« Reply #246 on: June 28, 2019, 09:08:39 AM »
Magic also said that Kawhi called someone and asked to meet Magic.

That is a great sign.


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« Reply #247 on: June 28, 2019, 09:26:16 AM »
Magic also said that Kawhi called someone and asked to meet Magic.

That is a great sign.

So... if Kawhi signs with LA, does that mean that Magic quitting was also part of the plan?

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« Reply #248 on: June 28, 2019, 10:37:43 AM »
Magic also said that Kawhi called someone and asked to meet Magic.

That is a great sign.

So... if Kawhi signs with LA, does that mean that Magic quitting was also part of the plan?

They should have never hired him in the first place. So no?

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Johnson, a longtime broadcaster and respected basketball figure before moving into the front office, has been investigated four times for tampering after everything from a joking comment about Paul George on Jimmy Kimmel's talk show to his response to an email sent to him by Philadelphia's Ben Simmons.

"I thought about Dwyane Wade retiring (Wednesday), and I can't even tweet that out or be there," Johnson said. "Serena Williams called me a week ago and said, 'Will you mentor me and be on my advisory board?' And I said, 'Yeah, I'm going to do that.' So when Ben Simmons called and we went through the proper channels and they made me look like the bad guy out of that situation, but I didn't do anything wrong ... I was thinking about all those times, all those guys who want me to mentor them or be a part of their lives, and I can't even do that. I had more fun on the other side."

https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/ct-spt-magic-johnson-lakers-president-steps-down-20190409-story.html

Wanting to talk to players to advise them was definitely part of Earvin's plan, I'll tell you that. He comes out and says that's why he quit. Do we think he's telling those players to be Lakers?


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He quit cause he thought he could help the Lakers more while not working for them. All the other teams would have this same privilege with their retired legends if they'd stayed loyal to them.


koab [8:27 PM]
damn i thought you guys were good little cucks who would shit themselfs so a POC could peacefully protest

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Re: NBA Offseason 2019
« Reply #249 on: June 28, 2019, 01:46:34 PM »
Isn't he still a part owner though?