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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
« Reply #50 on: October 11, 2019, 12:29:01 PM »
Maybe they'll have Nikki on SD and Alexa on Raw and have the women's tag belts float? Seems silly given the "if you're drafted that's where you'll stay" but it would also be silly to keep the women's tag belts on one show.

It looks like the draft is still going to be the same as the order they posted they just changed what order slightly because they found out they fucked up.

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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
« Reply #51 on: October 11, 2019, 12:34:08 PM »
looks like the did actually change the draft. So only the important picks were spoiled.

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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
« Reply #52 on: October 11, 2019, 12:34:24 PM »
Heavy Machinery was in the other draft pool according to that news site.
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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
« Reply #53 on: October 11, 2019, 12:43:05 PM »
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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
« Reply #54 on: October 11, 2019, 12:44:41 PM »
You know it’s a heel turn bc she’s wearing AEW colors

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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
« Reply #55 on: October 11, 2019, 12:44:49 PM »
This is the final draft pool from the WWE site. You can see the order was exactly the same right up until splitting Alexa/Nikki and with only minor changes after.

https://www.wwe.com/shows/smackdown/article/preliminary-wwe-draft-pools

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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
« Reply #56 on: October 11, 2019, 12:47:59 PM »
If the Raw pool provides spoilers, there’s some interesting stuff happening.

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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
« Reply #57 on: October 11, 2019, 12:49:56 PM »
Im going to bet they make at least some changes at the very least in order since they have a few days to scramble.

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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
« Reply #58 on: October 11, 2019, 12:54:57 PM »
Spoiler: show
The “keeping couples together” domino effect of Charlotte-Andrade-Aleister does have them all on Raw, according you the raw spoilers though, fwiw.

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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
« Reply #59 on: October 11, 2019, 12:57:40 PM »
I like that Bayley has a new look and theme and is actually working like a heel. If this is how she's going to be from now on I might finally be a fan. I liked the title change as well.


ahahha this promo.



WWE is so terrible and then they do one thing right.

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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
« Reply #60 on: October 11, 2019, 01:12:33 PM »
Yup. Great main event and new look for Bayley. Loved it.

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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
« Reply #61 on: October 11, 2019, 01:27:04 PM »
She's gonna celebrate by brooding in her room while blasting My Chemical Romance albums.

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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
« Reply #62 on: October 11, 2019, 01:32:52 PM »
She’s like that girl in boy meets world that turned emo cause of Eric Matthews


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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
« Reply #63 on: October 11, 2019, 01:34:20 PM »
Sometimes I think the Women's Championship changes hands more than the 24/7 Championship.

They want Charlotte to break her dad's record. She'll probably do it at Wrestlemania.
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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
« Reply #64 on: October 11, 2019, 01:37:16 PM »


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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
« Reply #65 on: October 11, 2019, 04:36:15 PM »
best part of the show was the Robot in the FOX war room

last week I tuned in to see Batista and I didn't get him.  this week I turn in to see Jim Cramer and I don't get him.

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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
« Reply #66 on: October 11, 2019, 05:48:33 PM »
https://www.f4wonline.com/wwe-news/wwe-reveals-draft-rules-list-celebrities-set-appear-294521

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head of it kicking off tomorrow, WWE has revealed the rules for this year's draft:

Over 70 Superstars, as well as tag teams, are eligible for selection in this year’s WWE Draft
SmackDown will draft 30 Superstars, and Raw will select another 41 Superstars
Since SmackDown is a two-hour show and Raw is a three-hour show, for every two picks SmackDown makes, Raw will receive three
Tag teams will count as one pick unless FOX or USA Network specifically wants to pick only one Superstar from the team
Any undrafted Superstars will immediately be declared free agents and able to sign with the brand of their choosing

The draft will begin on tomorrow's SmackDown at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada. It will then conclude with night two taking place on Monday's Raw at the Pepsi Center in Denver,  Colorado.

Tomorrow's SmackDown will open with Seth Rollins vs. Roman Reigns. Rollins is representing Raw in the match, while Reigns is representing SmackDown. The stipulation is that -- if Rollins wins -- Raw will get the first overall pick. SmackDown will get the first pick if Reigns wins.

When the draft was first announced, it was noted that personalities from FOX and NBCUniversal would be announcing some of the picks across the two nights. WWE has revealed that the following list of celebrities will be appearing:

Alex Rodriguez -- FOX MLB analyst
Michael Che & Colin Jost of "Saturday Night Live"
Christian Slater of "Mr. Robot"
Joe Buck & Troy Aikman -- NFL on FOX commentators
Jim Cramer of "Mad Money"
Kevin Burkhardt & Frank Thomas -- FOX MLB analysts
Terry Bradshaw, Howie Long, Jimmy Johnson & Tony Gonzalez -- FOX NFL Sunday
Ronde Barber, Charles Davis, Chris Spielman & Daryl Johnston -- FOX NFL analysts
Charissa Thompson, Michael Vick & Peter Schrager -- FOX NFL Kickoff
Rob Stone, Brady Quinn, Reggie Bush, Matt Leinart & Urban Meyer -- Big Noon Kickoff
Joel Klatt -- FOX College Football analyst
Dule Hill of USA’s “Psych” and “Suits”
James Roday of “Psych”
Marcus Lemonis of “The Profit”
Margaret Josephs & Melissa Gorga of “Real Housewives of New Jersey”
Rodney Harrison & Chris Simms -- Football Night in America
Rebecca Lowe, Robbie Mustoe & Kyle Martino -- Premier League Live
Che and Jost were involved in a storyline with Braun Strowman earlier this year, with it leading to them being entrants in the Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal on the WrestleMania 35 pre-show. Strowman won the match by last eliminating Che and Jost.

WWE is hyping that "For the first time, executives from FOX and USA Network have direct influence over the WWE Draft as it will determine the Superstars competing for either Raw or SmackDown."

Barely any of these Fox people appeared lirl

They just straight out lie about fucking everything and keep expecting that people are gonna take it.


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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
« Reply #67 on: October 11, 2019, 07:41:16 PM »

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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
« Reply #68 on: October 11, 2019, 09:02:38 PM »
I cringed at most of the celeb bits, minus the Fox FB team, because at least they just spoke of their personal favorites of the past, not coming up with gimmicks for themselves, having fake "comedy" phone calls and spewing PR buzzwords. 

The draft itself badly exposed how despite having immense talent on the roster the star power is nil. 


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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
« Reply #69 on: October 11, 2019, 11:38:29 PM »
So if tag teams can be drafted together as a single pick, why did Raw waste separate selections on Alexa Bliss and Nikki Cross? They were the tag team champions less than two weeks ago!

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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
« Reply #71 on: October 12, 2019, 04:05:31 AM »

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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
« Reply #72 on: October 12, 2019, 04:16:29 AM »
So it went almost down to the usual Raw rating after one week. This was also a draft. It could get much worse.


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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
« Reply #73 on: October 12, 2019, 05:30:32 AM »
Awful show. Lirl at them promising a ton of appearances and having none of them.

Bayley turning heel on her buddies was great, at least. Solid match, too.

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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
« Reply #74 on: October 12, 2019, 05:35:06 AM »
Does anyone know what sort of guarantee in terms of weeks that WWE got from Fox? Is there a chance that Smackdown Live could get canceled or moved down to one of the cable channels if it keeps putting on RAW like numbers?

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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
« Reply #75 on: October 12, 2019, 06:26:17 AM »
They won the key demos last night in 18-34 and 18-49, as long as that keeps happening Fox is going to be happy unless they drop REALLY bad. Look at what some of the other shit did for 18--34. .1-2 and SD did a .7.

The total viewers would have to drop really low to offset that. Which is always possible with WWE, given what they're putting out.

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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
« Reply #76 on: October 12, 2019, 06:52:36 AM »
I think it's pretty telling that both AEW and WWE had roughly the same percentage drop off from their big debuts to the 2nd week.  Both were roughly 25%.

Obviously SD had the larger number in terms of people leaving because they had so many more to begin with.

What it tells me is that extra 25% or so is there, but companies aren't producing a product that gets them to stay after the initial hype.

I think both companies need to look at that, and try to figure out why.
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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
« Reply #77 on: October 12, 2019, 07:06:42 AM »
I'm not watching Smackdown anymore cause it isn't live on the West Coast. I like reading threads of the show on here, Reddit, Twitter, and Scott Keith's blog. I see no point watching a show that everyone has already seen.
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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
« Reply #78 on: October 12, 2019, 07:17:41 AM »
You can watch it live online via fox's tv site I think 909 has said but I think most people won't consider that worth it. He also said last night it was pre-empted in his area for Fire coverage which is something that they'll have to deal with from now on with being on Network.

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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
« Reply #80 on: October 12, 2019, 07:40:25 AM »
I’d guess Sasha will go back to being a babyface which sucks. But with Bayley a heel and the only other woman drafted to smackdown being Lacey, and even considering some of the available girls being Mandy/Sonya, Asuka/Kairi, and the IIconics all being heels, suddenly there’s a lack of decent female faces. I guess they could bring in Carmella and/or Naomi but they’re hardly main event talent. They really should have moved Alexa over to Smackdown to anchor the face side.

Also, it hasn’t been mentioned much, but Ember Moon wasn’t in the draft pool and that’s because she’s injured and may be out up to a year. She can’t catch a break.

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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
« Reply #81 on: October 12, 2019, 08:10:39 AM »
Total viewer number doesn't matter but Fox is targeting a 1.0 in 18-49 (which likely means they're selling ads based on that number and if the ratings go lower they'll have to offer makegoods) and the fact that SD was only able to hit that number in the first hour with a presumably important show doesn't bode well for the ratings in the coming weeks.

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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
« Reply #82 on: October 12, 2019, 08:12:54 AM »
I think it's pretty telling that both AEW and WWE had roughly the same percentage drop off from their big debuts to the 2nd week.  Both were roughly 25%.
Actually if you include the people who watched AEW on TruTV, it comes out to the standard show drop off of 20% after a debut. Though that's assuming those people watch wrestling and it wasn't "oh hey, this is on TruTV, might as well watch". I hope I'm spelling the other station that AEW was on right.

So with the standard "hey, this isn't for me" people out of the way, this coming week will probably be the one where you can fairly see how the war will go. Also see how well the #2 company can do audience wise.

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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
« Reply #83 on: October 12, 2019, 08:23:03 AM »
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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
« Reply #84 on: October 12, 2019, 10:29:24 AM »
https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/dg0kjs/fox_sports_evp_michael_mulvihill_on_the_smackdown/

FOX will not be happy no matter how some people break it down and spin it... they're looking at the totals.

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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
« Reply #85 on: October 12, 2019, 11:10:52 AM »
Them adding NXT to the network a day or so later means the people who care most will be able to watch it later. I love it.

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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
« Reply #86 on: October 13, 2019, 09:28:13 AM »
https://www.f4wonline.com/wwe-news/wwe-announces-additional-draft-picks-raw-and-smackdown-294766

EC3, Eric Young, and Sin Cara have been added to the Raw roster, while Apollo Crews, Drew Gulak, Heath Slater, Tamina, and The B-Team (Curtis Axel & Bo Dallas) are now on SmackDown.


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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
« Reply #87 on: October 13, 2019, 12:43:13 PM »


Sooooooooo apparently Championship Wrestling from Hollywood is touring or setting up in Houston? Saw a random ad on Facebook and kinda puzzled. Had no clue this was going on..

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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
« Reply #88 on: October 13, 2019, 01:46:12 PM »
CWFH had sister promotions in Houston, Vegas, I think Portland and somewhere else before the whole NWA revival. This is probably just them co-running these shows.


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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
« Reply #89 on: October 13, 2019, 05:19:17 PM »
https://www.f4wonline.com/wwe-news/wwe-announces-additional-draft-picks-raw-and-smackdown-294766

EC3, Eric Young, and Sin Cara have been added to the Raw roster, while Apollo Crews, Drew Gulak, Heath Slater, Tamina, and The B-Team (Curtis Axel & Bo Dallas) are now on SmackDown.

I guess they're gonna make Cesaro going undrafted into a storyline. Does he need an above ground pool?

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Re: TWIW 10/7-10/13: Well It Can't Get Any Worse!!!
« Reply #90 on: October 13, 2019, 09:37:58 PM »


Sooooooooo apparently Championship Wrestling from Hollywood is touring or setting up in Houston? Saw a random ad on Facebook and kinda puzzled. Had no clue this was going on..

They just started airing there. They currently have 2 organizations. CWFH and CWF Arizona. They' been branching out their show all over the country. They've added about 4 or 5 new states this year alone. They started airing here in NY earlier this year, but not in HD. I prefer just to watch them on Fite, since it airs in HD on the app.
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