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Re: TWIW- 1/27/2020 to 2/2/2020- A DREW Era in WWE?
« Reply #50 on: January 28, 2020, 05:30:13 PM »
Rey is one of my all-time GOATs and they've wasted his return run something fierce

they do it with everyone

Goldberg is the one exception, and all praise to Edge, he was never the megastar Goldberg was.  I fear him becoming "just another guy" if they overexpose him.  I hope the Orton thing writes him off basically almost until Mania

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Re: TWIW- 1/27/2020 to 2/2/2020- A DREW Era in WWE?
« Reply #51 on: January 28, 2020, 07:03:07 PM »
Edge got a totally different surgery on his neck that has allowed this to happen. It was something not available or at least not as known back when he had the surgery that ended his career. That is what changed. He had the itch to wrestle and there was a new medical procedure that would allow for that.
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Re: TWIW- 1/27/2020 to 2/2/2020- A DREW Era in WWE?
« Reply #52 on: January 28, 2020, 08:00:13 PM »
I get that.  I still question strongly the logic into him getting back into the game now. 

Look, I've listened to endless podcasts talking about the numbness in his limbs when wrestling for years before he even retired..........

If it's just a WM match with Orton to end on his own terms I'm fine with it.  But like, I don't know

personally, I have very mixed feelings about him doing shit in the ring at this stage of his life.  And it hits me personally a bit because I have been dealing with, not the neck stuff he had, but similar things when it regards to the spine and back for my entire adult life......I'm honestly not sure how I feel about this Edge return unless it's just a one off WM match with Orton

I'm not a highly trained athlete like he is, and I'm also not 46 yrs old, but as someone who deals with nerve pain on a daily basis and is more or less dependent on how the wind blows when it comes to that, and not afforded the luxury of pain pills whenever I want them.....the idea of Edge coming back at this age, off that neck injury......it just fucking scares me.  I just know for me personally, when I push myself too far, I hurt for days, my back and my neck and my spine hurt......meh

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Re: TWIW- 1/27/2020 to 2/2/2020- A DREW Era in WWE?
« Reply #53 on: January 28, 2020, 08:05:17 PM »
and like, I don't want to go too full disclorsue, but I've been dealing with spine/nerve damage my entire adult life.  I've had times where the numbness in my limbs was scary because I felt fully aware, yet fully buzzing/numb and felt weird and like scared and shit and not sure if I'd be safe doing things

Edge has talked about that feeling in the ring, getting stingers and not feeling his hands......he's like one bad spear away from that happening again

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Re: TWIW- 1/27/2020 to 2/2/2020- A DREW Era in WWE?
« Reply #54 on: January 28, 2020, 10:55:14 PM »
The thing I never get about the stories like the Riddle one - if he really pissed everyone off and his quick appearance was a lesson, wouldn’t a better lesson be to not use him on the show?  He wasn’t advertised, there are several other NXT ups they could’ve plugged in that spot as good soldiers.  Why give him a Rumble payday?

This is WWE and Vince McMahon. Logic doesn't live anywhere near him. If he thinks a better punishment would be to "embarrass" Riddle by having him show up and get eliminated right away, there's no changing his mind.
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Re: TWIW- 1/27/2020 to 2/2/2020- A DREW Era in WWE?
« Reply #55 on: January 29, 2020, 12:36:08 AM »
and like, I don't want to go too full disclorsue, but I've been dealing with spine/nerve damage my entire adult life.  I've had times where the numbness in my limbs was scary because I felt fully aware, yet fully buzzing/numb and felt weird and like scared and shit and not sure if I'd be safe doing things

Edge has talked about that feeling in the ring, getting stingers and not feeling his hands......he's like one bad spear away from that happening again
I could also relate to the idea that at the age of 46, Edge probably has a LOT of time to sit on his hands. It's a tough balance. Keep him the hell away from ladder matches though.

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Re: TWIW- 1/27/2020 to 2/2/2020- A DREW Era in WWE?
« Reply #56 on: January 29, 2020, 12:51:56 AM »
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I assume Nikki's baby isn't Cena's? Wasn't their whole break up kayfabe?

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Re: TWIW- 1/27/2020 to 2/2/2020- A DREW Era in WWE?
« Reply #57 on: January 29, 2020, 02:06:25 AM »
and like, I don't want to go too full disclorsue, but I've been dealing with spine/nerve damage my entire adult life.  I've had times where the numbness in my limbs was scary because I felt fully aware, yet fully buzzing/numb and felt weird and like scared and shit and not sure if I'd be safe doing things

Edge has talked about that feeling in the ring, getting stingers and not feeling his hands......he's like one bad spear away from that happening again
I could also relate to the idea that at the age of 46, Edge probably has a LOT of time to sit on his hands. It's a tough balance. Keep him the hell away from ladder matches though.

I get it.  It's just hard for me to think this is a great idea after hearing him talk for years about the numbness and loss of feeling he had.  And literally talking about how doing the spear as much as he did took years off his career.

Meh.  I like Edge, but like, C'mon man.  I'm not gonna have a ton of sympathy for him when the loss of feeling comes back.  He asked for it.

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Re: TWIW- 1/27/2020 to 2/2/2020- A DREW Era in WWE?
« Reply #58 on: January 29, 2020, 02:28:48 AM »
I have to find it, but from things I've read, his contract is for 3 years, but it's minimal dates. Something like 26 appearances over that time, and only like 9 matches including the Rumble. He also gets paid the full amount if he retires before that time. I get the concern, and that's on him, but it's as light a schedule as one can possible have.
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Re: TWIW- 1/27/2020 to 2/2/2020- A DREW Era in WWE?
« Reply #59 on: January 29, 2020, 02:53:02 AM »
It's a 3 year deal for 9 million dollars.

He only has to work 3 matches a year.  But, has agreed to 5 this year (1 of which was the Rumble).

So, he's essentially getting a million a match if he wants.
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Re: TWIW- 1/27/2020 to 2/2/2020- A DREW Era in WWE?
« Reply #60 on: January 29, 2020, 05:50:32 AM »
Those figures seem insane to me if they’re true.

I like Edge well enough but he’s not a draw on the levels of Brock or Goldberg and never has been. To essentially get paid $1 million per match? Not my money but it seems really out of whack.

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Re: TWIW- 1/27/2020 to 2/2/2020- A DREW Era in WWE?
« Reply #61 on: January 29, 2020, 05:58:25 AM »
Edge has always been a tier 2 or maybe even 3 superstar, but they are very desperate for names right now and Edge was talking to AEW so they overspent.

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Re: TWIW- 1/27/2020 to 2/2/2020- A DREW Era in WWE?
« Reply #62 on: January 29, 2020, 06:02:02 AM »
Edge has always been a tier 2 or maybe even 3 superstar, but they are very desperate for names right now and Edge was talking to AEW so they overspent.

That's the big part of it. They apparently offered him big money to come in for a few matches and then become a producer backstage. WWE panicked that he would jump there and overreacted. Good for him for getting that money.
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Re: TWIW- 1/27/2020 to 2/2/2020- A DREW Era in WWE?
« Reply #63 on: January 29, 2020, 08:02:07 AM »
If I was Austin I'd start hanging out with Tony Khan STAT. They'll probably pay him $2 million per random stunner.

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Re: TWIW- 1/27/2020 to 2/2/2020- A DREW Era in WWE?
« Reply #64 on: January 29, 2020, 09:32:22 AM »
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I assume Nikki's baby isn't Cena's? Wasn't their whole break up kayfabe?
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Re: TWIW- 1/27/2020 to 2/2/2020- A DREW Era in WWE?
« Reply #65 on: January 29, 2020, 03:49:10 PM »
Look, I know Edge is a smart dude, and if those figures tossed around are true.....fuck.....for one last big payday....one more big run on top....I get why he's doing it.   And I can't honestly say I wouldn't do it if I was in his boots

Is it worth it though?

Set aside the fact that I'm worried about him doing a million spears.......current WWE kinda sucks....and like.....god....even the Austin open at the Rumble felt lame to me.  Edge's return, and I hope I'm not wrong, is probably gonna fizzle out fast and hard and he's gonna be "just another guy" having a lame program with Wyatt around SS time.....if that DOA character isn't dead by then

like one match I'd really like to see is Edge and Brock.......a decade plus ago

there's really no interesting matches for him to have IMO because D-Bry will have to dumb it down to work around him...and like....I don't know man.

I was always a bigger Christian fan anyway, and at least he's smart enough to know that his bell got rung a few too many times and he wants to live to have grandchilden

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Re: TWIW- 1/27/2020 to 2/2/2020- A DREW Era in WWE?
« Reply #66 on: January 29, 2020, 08:49:32 PM »
Honestly, I get what you're saying, being worried about his health. But he's a grown man who passed all the medical tests. WWE medical tests are much agreed to pass now then they were even 5 years ago. This is on him, and if something happens, it would suck, but it's on him and them now. As a fan I don't want to see him risk his health, but he made his decision about it.
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Re: TWIW- 1/27/2020 to 2/2/2020- A DREW Era in WWE?
« Reply #67 on: January 29, 2020, 09:07:04 PM »
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He wouldn’t have been allowed to do that spear at SummerSlam if he wasn’t cleared. This all dates back to last summer when AEW made Edge a major offer to wrestle a few matches per year. Edge used that offer, which he told WWE was for $3 million per year and he would start when the company got television as his leverage, to get the same deal with WWE. So that was his leverage to get one of the highest deals in WWE history. The reports were out that his deal was for five matches and 25 television shows per year, but we are told that the money figure is correct but the date numbers are not accurate and that there are more matches and dates involved in the deal. The deal is far less than people like Brock Lesnar and Bill Goldberg have gotten, since Goldberg earned $2 million just for doing his match with Undertaker.

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Re: TWIW- 1/27/2020 to 2/2/2020- A DREW Era in WWE?
« Reply #68 on: January 30, 2020, 03:10:13 AM »
He should bring that awesome submission he used to have back.

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Re: TWIW- 1/27/2020 to 2/2/2020- A DREW Era in WWE?
« Reply #69 on: January 30, 2020, 03:18:58 AM »
I guess the WM plan for Ronda according to Dave was going to be a match with Charlotte. Now she's out of the plans entirely. I know their match in 2018 was great, but it seems stupid not to do the big Becky vs Ronda singles match everyone wants to see. Stupid is the usual way WWE thinks though.

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« Reply #70 on: January 30, 2020, 06:55:15 AM »
I would have moved mountains to get Ronda if I was them, especially since the only big potential marquee match is Bray vs Roman. The other rumored matches are dominant veterans vs unproven-on-a-big-stage types (brock vs drew, charlotte vs rhea, becky vs shayna) that will play big with the fans but not really connect with lapsed fans.

I mean, I guess it's possible Ronda just said no but she still does a fair amount of wrestling media and talks about wrestling stuff on her social media so I'd think she'd be down for one big payoff match when 8 months ago she was doing house shows and shit.

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Re: TWIW- 1/27/2020 to 2/2/2020- A DREW Era in WWE?
« Reply #71 on: January 30, 2020, 07:07:31 AM »
He should bring that awesome submission he used to have back.

Edgeucator? Edgeacution?

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Re: TWIW- 1/27/2020 to 2/2/2020- A DREW Era in WWE?
« Reply #72 on: January 30, 2020, 07:50:10 AM »
Wwe has fired co-presidents George Barrios and Michelle Wilson. That's a legit shock. Sounds like turmoil going on backstage. Vince isn't fucking around

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Re: TWIW- 1/27/2020 to 2/2/2020- A DREW Era in WWE?
« Reply #73 on: January 30, 2020, 09:13:07 AM »
Vince ain’t fuckin’ around, and neither are investors. YIKES.


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« Reply #74 on: January 30, 2020, 09:16:17 AM »
It has literally halved in the last year.


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« Reply #75 on: January 30, 2020, 09:21:04 AM »
Barrios is a stunner. They always give a ton of credit to him when it comes to WWE getting better deals than ever even with viewers diminishing over the years.

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Re: TWIW- 1/27/2020 to 2/2/2020- A DREW Era in WWE?
« Reply #76 on: January 30, 2020, 09:33:37 AM »
Now I'm realizing Wilson is the one to get them the Saudi deal so man that's pretty big. The two key components in talking and dealing with FOX, USA, acquiring better sponsors, etc. are gone. The actual people who delivered on their end who have nothing to do with the actual garbage product gone.

The people for damn near 10 years credited for making sure the WWE always made money from their TV deals all across the world and keeping them afloat thru their worst years gone just like that...

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« Reply #77 on: January 30, 2020, 09:42:50 AM »
Stock now down $13.80 (22.15%) in after-hours trading. Investors don’t like uncertainty, so of course firing your longtime co-presidents is going to cause a hit, but man, that is rough.

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« Reply #78 on: January 30, 2020, 09:44:54 AM »
Would now be a good time to buy?

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« Reply #79 on: January 30, 2020, 09:53:58 AM »
No cause the business is dying


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Re: TWIW- 1/27/2020 to 2/2/2020- A DREW Era in WWE?
« Reply #80 on: January 30, 2020, 09:56:07 AM »
Would now be a good time to buy?

I'd wait until their next financial report comes out (which I'm pretty sure is soon EDIT: next week).  This happening right before that isn't the most encouraging news.  I almost bought a few shares just to have them but I'm gonna wait.

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« Reply #81 on: January 30, 2020, 11:29:10 AM »
It seems very hard to determine when's a good time to buy shares.  You have this big drop today, but then they're also going to have their next financial report next week which will show they're $10m below expectations, which might drop the price even more.  And there's always a false spike around Mania season, so maybe it is a good time to buy.   Except there's also a Saudi show next month, which always causes a dip in the stock price, so will they be able to recover in time for the Mania spike?

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« Reply #82 on: January 30, 2020, 11:41:01 AM »
the only reason to buy stock in WWE is because you're a fan so it doesn't matter. It isn't a stock for serious investors.

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Re: TWIW- 1/27/2020 to 2/2/2020- A DREW Era in WWE?
« Reply #83 on: January 30, 2020, 01:13:47 PM »
He should bring that awesome submission he used to have back.

Edgeucator? Edgeacution?

The first.

That's a cool looking hold that I don't remember anyone else using in WWE as anything regular.  Edge was never really a mat wrestler, technician type but the more submissions and the less spears the better

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Re: TWIW- 1/27/2020 to 2/2/2020- A DREW Era in WWE?
« Reply #84 on: January 30, 2020, 01:28:45 PM »
Barrios is a stunner. They always give a ton of credit to him when it comes to WWE getting better deals than ever even with viewers diminishing over the years.

Both stunners to me.  They've been front and center on the corporate side for a while now, on investor calls and such.

I have a lot of issues with current WWE, and based on tv, house show and network numbers I ain't the only one.  But I'm having a hard time believing they are the problem.  Vince is the problem, and that won't change until he's dead unfortunately

I'm not sure if it's because I've been watching WWF/E since the mid-80's and I'm older now and wrestling is just one of my many interests, but watching anything WWE related these days is a chore for me and even the Rumble didn't feel can't miss to me.  The entire product and presentation feels so stale and "same old shit" to me, more than it did at some of the other low points.  I think a large part of it is they've just beaten the enthusiasm out of me over the last decade by continuing to not listen to the fans and push talented wrestlers who get over organically.  The cut their nose off to spite their face, and well, just look at the fucking results.

I don't put a lot of stock in the stock number tbh tho.  It's often wildly inflated, and also often undervalued.  The trends have shown that investors really have no clue how to properly value them.  I bought a little stock years ago when it was at a really low point betting on a rebound, sold it and made a small profit.  Kinda wish I'd held it longer, but this was years before the network launch or the big tv deals, and not long after I sold it it dropped again and has continually yo-yo'd since

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Re: TWIW- 1/27/2020 to 2/2/2020- A DREW Era in WWE?
« Reply #85 on: January 30, 2020, 03:20:44 PM »
I don't know much about them. But based on what people are saying itt and what I know about the wwe's recent business trajectory and vince as a person, I'd bet the company either dies or becomes a seriously scaled down version of itself within the next decade. Scaled down like, to the point where it's unrecognizable.

That is unless they were replaced with someone better. But that's doubtful. Another possibility is that they wanted to leave and Vince fired them before they could. But if what's on the surface is true, Vince fired them for perceived incompetence, this is a bad sign for the wwe universe.


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Re: TWIW- 1/27/2020 to 2/2/2020- A DREW Era in WWE?
« Reply #86 on: January 30, 2020, 03:32:11 PM »
Wanna know what I think? I think you can pinpoint the impending nosedive of their company, and for that matter their increasingly aging fanbase, on the administration that Vince and his family are so tied to and involved with. The Saudi Arabia stuff doesn't really help either. Younger people are really keyed into this kind of thing, so they're aware of the racism prevalent in WWE, in how the business is fucked up, and all that stuff. I'd have to do some research as it pertains to their shrinking numbers in the key demo, but from a cursory look I see that their ratings in 18-49 for Raw were THREE TIMES HIGHER back in 2015.


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Re: TWIW- 1/27/2020 to 2/2/2020- A DREW Era in WWE?
« Reply #87 on: January 30, 2020, 03:35:16 PM »
if after some time and perspective we find out that there was an actual Trump effect where all the people that tied themselves to him turn out to have lost big time and suffered for it then



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Re: TWIW- 1/27/2020 to 2/2/2020- A DREW Era in WWE?
« Reply #88 on: January 31, 2020, 01:02:07 AM »
He should bring that awesome submission he used to have back.

Edgeucator? Edgeacution?

The first.

That's a cool looking hold that I don't remember anyone else using in WWE as anything regular.  Edge was never really a mat wrestler, technician type but the more submissions and the less spears the better

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« Reply #89 on: January 31, 2020, 02:16:39 AM »
Cool submission hold, but between that and the Edge-o-matic, he has some god-awful names for signature moves.

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« Reply #90 on: January 31, 2020, 02:33:36 AM »
Fun fact: the original name of that move was the "Dragula" which was a reference to Rob Zombie (who sang Edge's theme in 2001-2004) but was quickly changed. I assume because Vince asked what the hell a "Dragula" was.

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« Reply #91 on: January 31, 2020, 02:50:25 AM »
WWE stock now down 27%.
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« Reply #92 on: January 31, 2020, 05:32:26 AM »
damn I might need to speed up that timeline. Didn't they cut a shitton of people the last time the stock price dropped? And then when it rebounded they didn't really refill a lot of those roles.


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Re: TWIW- 1/27/2020 to 2/2/2020- A DREW Era in WWE?
« Reply #93 on: January 31, 2020, 05:49:30 AM »
Edge could go back to the Downward Spiral or even the Edgecution.  Edgecution and Glorious DDT are both basically the same thing, but I don't see Bobby Roode winning any matches for the time being, for it to matter.

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Re: TWIW- 1/27/2020 to 2/2/2020- A DREW Era in WWE?
« Reply #94 on: January 31, 2020, 07:53:02 AM »
I wouldn't have him do the Downward Spiral because he has to take a back bump.
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Re: TWIW- 1/27/2020 to 2/2/2020- A DREW Era in WWE?
« Reply #95 on: January 31, 2020, 08:03:52 AM »
He took lots of back bumps in the Rumble and looked great. You guys gotta chill.


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Re: TWIW- 1/27/2020 to 2/2/2020- A DREW Era in WWE?
« Reply #96 on: January 31, 2020, 08:08:54 AM »
Can he still do Edgeomatic?

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Re: TWIW- 1/27/2020 to 2/2/2020- A DREW Era in WWE?
« Reply #97 on: January 31, 2020, 08:47:19 AM »
The Revival asked for their release again. I don't know why they'd bother, but this is probably their only way of telling fans that they have no intention of staying in WWE.


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Re: TWIW- 1/27/2020 to 2/2/2020- A DREW Era in WWE?
« Reply #98 on: January 31, 2020, 08:52:58 AM »
if after some time and perspective we find out that there was an actual Trump effect where all the people that tied themselves to him turn out to have lost big time and suffered for it then



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Re: TWIW- 1/27/2020 to 2/2/2020- A DREW Era in WWE?
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