The Vs Fighting Game Thread - News & Views..

[Thoth]

Hey Thoth, was that you on Wednesday Night Fights last night? Someone with your handle was playing solo Cerebella on Skullgirls.

Yeah, that's me. That match with Jason D was so fun, I think tourney nerves got to me. I got absolutely wrecked in losers by PMZ.

[Flik]

Apparently IMDB has Kevin Butler listed as being a voice for Sony's All-Star whatever game. Yeah, not the best source for this to be off of, but still...

I wonder what it could be for. Commentary? Or him actually being a fighter in the game? Assuming he is.

[no fact, no matter]

Just put down a pre-order for this....

http://www.capcom-unity.com/brelston...nal_tournament

$150 USD - Ships September

Games
-Street Fighter X Tekken (including all character and Swap Costume DLC)
-Super Street Fighter IV Arcade Edition (with all costume DLC)
-Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix
-Street Fighter III: Third Strike Online Edition

Video
-New documentary Blu-ray that highlights the lifelong love affair fans have had with Street Fighter, and how their dedication has affected the game.
-Street Fighter IV, Super SFIV anime movies
-All episodes of the Street Fighter animated series (DELICIOUS!)
-Street Fighter II: The Animated Movie

Light-up Ryu statue
-Brand new statue with light up base. Eight inches tall and frozen in mid Shoryuken.

11 disc soundtrack
-Game music from the past 25 years, including remixes and fan-created music.

64 page hardcover art book
-Containing pieces from fans all over the world.

Ryu's belt
-Full size martial arts black belt for the aspiring World Warrior. Includes Ryu's "Furinkazan" in kanji.

Certificate of Authenticity
-Like any good collector's set, this comes with a lovely piece of paper telling you how limited and special it is. They're all individually numbered, so get one before they disappear!

[Thrasher]

I have all those games except for TvsSF. I'd want those DVD's and soundtracks. Too bad they couldn't port the original Street Fighter or some other games in the series.

[no fact, no matter]

Yeah I have the games too. The stuff I don't have (the DVDs, all of the SFxT DLC, and half of the SSFIV DLC outweighed it for me so I went for it. I figure I have until September to change my mind, but at least I have one on reserve now. That and I am a mark for fighting game collectibles (especially KOF and SF stuff) so it was hard to resist.

[Thoth]

Yeah I have the games too. The stuff I don't have (the DVDs, all of the SFxT DLC, and half of the SSFIV DLC outweighed it for me so I went for it. I figure I have until September to change my mind, but at least I have one on reserve now. That and I am a mark for fighting game collectibles (especially KOF and SF stuff) so it was hard to resist.

Basically my thoughts when preordering this. Telling Mike Z (Skullgirls lead designer) that I did this resulted in him shouting at me that the bundle is worthless and terrible and had no effort into it and that I am a fool for spending the money.

[Thrasher]

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/07/05/marvel-vs-capcom-two-pack-headed-to-xbla-and-psn-this-september/
I'd love for Capcom to release X-Men vs SF and MSH vs SF but this will do for now.

[Smues]

X-men vs SF would be nice since the Playstation release sucked ass and didn't let you switch between your characters. I think the Saturn version did, but who owned a Saturn?

[Broward]

Well, EVO is tomorrow. Good luck to those few TRTSM'ers who will be in Vegas for the next few days.

Someone kick Marn in the junk for all of us.

[Pi]

X-men vs SF would be nice since the Playstation release sucked ass and didn't let you switch between your characters. I think the Saturn version did, but who owned a Saturn?

Drew Carey

[SBofn]

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/07/05/marvel-vs-capcom-two-pack-headed-to-xbla-and-psn-this-september/
I'd love for Capcom to release X-Men vs SF and MSH vs SF but this will do for now.

I'm looking forward to Marvel Super Heroes, to be honest. I never got into the team-up games, because I am a monster.

[no fact, no matter]

X-men vs SF would be nice since the Playstation release sucked ass and didn't let you switch between your characters. I think the Saturn version did, but who owned a Saturn?

I had a Saturn.. but not that game. Bought it solely for Fire Pro 6 Man Scramble. >_>

[Smues]

I've never even known anyone who owned one. Though I still plan to get one someday. I really wanted to get one just to play Shining Force 3 back in the day.

[no fact, no matter]

Mine fried itself eventually. I still have the FPR6MS game disc though and I also would like to get another modded or import console, one day. Hooray retro-gaming!!

[Thoth]

Jer and I got back from Evo. It was cool. We all got bodied though.

[Smues]

Which one of you lost your camera?

[Thoth]

Which one of you lost your camera?

And then we didn't get upskirt shots.

[no fact, no matter]

We all got bodied though.

What?

[Jer]

Yeah, shockingly, not playing a game for three months isn't the best preparation for Evo.  At least I didn't go 0-2!

The finals were pretty hype across the board, with Marvel and KoF being the most hype.  Oh except for SFxT, those finals were terrible.

So overall impressions of the games I saw at Evo are that TTT2 is awesome, P4A is awesome, Playstation Battle All Stars looks interesting but seems to have some weird mechanics, and Injustice looks kind of stupid.

[no fact, no matter]

Does "got bodied" mean you got your asses kicked? Or that fat gamers were rubbing their bodies all over you in line?

P4A does look awesome, though. I can't wait for that to drop next month on PS3. Injustice does look dumb and is definitely an unnecessary entry into the genre. Were people really clamoring for another DC Universe fighter?

[Thoth]

Does "got bodied" mean you got your asses kicked? Or that fat gamers were rubbing their bodies all over you in line?

P4A does look awesome, though. I can't wait for that to drop next month on PS3. Injustice does look dumb and is definitely an unnecessary entry into the genre. Were people really clamoring for another DC Universe fighter?

Asses kicked, yes.

[devo]

P4A looks so good that I think I'd want it even if I weren't a massive fan of the Persona series. And while I appreciate what they're trying to do with Injustice it just seems like they're going way over the top with the usable/destructible environments and shifting stages. 

[Flik]

  5 days till Arena time. All the characters look fun to play and everything. I also read up on it, and this is an actual sequel to Persona 4 (and in a way 3) but before Persona 5. Sweetness.

I'm not sure who I want to main. I'm leaning towards maybe Yu, just because he's so balanced.

[Broward]

P4 Arena is awesome. That is all.

[Flik]

  I was having so much fun playing last night! Easy to jump in and have some fun. Also, the new character is quite fun.

Though I'm not used to Yu having a voice for lines. Its quite odd.

[Venkman]

[Nymyzys]

¡Me gusta!

[Thoth]

I had a match against Aris in Tekken Tag 2 on stream last night, but the match was right after an announcement that two large arcades in Southern California are closing. The commentators didn't even talk about the match I was having. I felt like Tyson Kidd.

[Broward]

Which two? I heard FFA but didnt hear about the other.

[Thoth]

Which two? I heard FFA but didnt hear about the other.

The other is Japan Arcade, which is in the Little Tokyo Galleria located on 3rd Street in Downtown LA. The thing is, they're building a Round 1-like complex in that building, so I think Japan Arcade's days were always numbered.

[no fact, no matter]

[Thoth]

Got it. Marvel Super Heroes ranked match are set as Normal Speed. Slow as molasses. I was playing MvC 1 last night, and got on FGTVLIVE. I got beat hard while Filipino Champ called me names.

[Nymyzys]

Yea, I'm gonna be getting that.

[Venkman]

I'd enjoy playing a home version of X-Men vs SF that doesn't suck, strip away all of the features, or require a Sega Saturn AND expansion pack to make it playable.

[Smues]

Yeah, my first thought when M v C Origins was announced was 'I hope this sells enough that they give me a version of X v S that lets you fucking tag in your other guy.'

[no fact, no matter]

Yeah, I agree. I was just thinking about how nice it would be to get another bundle of games that include maybe XMvSF and X-Men: Children of the Atom.

[The ghost of bps21]

Anything xmen related runs into licensing issues for capcom.

[Venkman]

But several X-Men appearing in the Marvel branded game doesn't?

I get it, and I remember for years the talk was there would never be a MVC3 because Capcom wouldn't deal with the copyright hassle / payments / etc. to make another fighter for a costly 2D fighter (note that "costly" came about because I believe one of those early 2000s PS2 2D fighters - one of the Guilty Gear games? - cost a lot of money for really fluid 2D sprite animation and made no money back).  Then MVC2 was released in HD, MVC3 happened, a half-sequel happened, and now MVC 1 / Marvel Super Heroes got a HD release.  I figured they were good with the license now.

[DukeTogo]

It wasn't really because it was too costly. Maybe the license itself was, which would be how they lost it in the first place, but if anything could have made its money back with the demand it had at the time, it was MvC.

It was rather because they totally lost the rights to EA so they could make that Marvel Nemesis shitfuck and a cancelled fighter by EA Chicago. Just a bad deal that didn't pay dividends for anyone.

That said, I have no idea what the hang-up with the X-Men name could be.

[no fact, no matter]

Could it be for individual licenses for some of the characters in the X-Men games?

[Venkman]

Apocalypse - Hasn't been in a Capcom game since Marvel vs. Street Fighter.
Cyclops - Has been in recently re-released games.
Gambit - Has been in recently re-released games.
Juggernaut - In Marvel vs. Capcom
Magneto - In new Capcom games
Rogue - Has been in recently re-released games.
Sabertooh - MVC2.
Storm - In new Capcom games.
Wolverine - In new Capcom games.

So would the big hold up the boss character / likeness of Apocalypse?

[Thrasher]

Apocalypse - Hasn't been in a Capcom game since Marvel vs. Street Fighter.
Cyclops - Has been in recently re-released games.
Gambit - Has been in recently re-released games.
Juggernaut - In Marvel vs. Capcom
Magneto - In new Capcom games
Rogue - Has been in recently re-released games.
Sabertooh - MVC2.
Storm - In new Capcom games.
Wolverine - In new Capcom games.

So would the big hold up the boss character / likeness of Apocalypse?

Except for Apocalypse, they've all been in MvC 2. I think Capcom lost the license to Activison, then Activison lost it, and then Marvel was acquired by Disney. Disney and Capcom have always had a good working relationship and here we are.

[The ghost of bps21]

I forgot what a bitch of a time I have with Onslaught.  I'm able to mega man duck fire him in the first stage and then obliterate him with War Machines special in the last one...but how I'm going to get the achievements for beating him with everyone else remains a question I haven't quite answered yet.  I think I can get him with the Mega Man specials in the last stage...so maybe I'll have to be dragging everyone along with him over and over and over 20 times.

[Thoth]

But several X-Men appearing in the Marvel branded game doesn't?

I get it, and I remember for years the talk was there would never be a MVC3 because Capcom wouldn't deal with the copyright hassle / payments / etc. to make another fighter for a costly 2D fighter (note that "costly" came about because I believe one of those early 2000s PS2 2D fighters - one of the Guilty Gear games? - cost a lot of money for really fluid 2D sprite animation and made no money back).  Then MVC2 was released in HD, MVC3 happened, a half-sequel happened, and now MVC 1 / Marvel Super Heroes got a HD release.  I figured they were good with the license now.

It's actually because X-Men appears in the name of the game, and in various parts of the game, like the title screen. That's it. If a character is an X-Man, they can totally be used, as long as it isn't an X-Men GAME.

[Nymyzys]

But several X-Men appearing in the Marvel branded game doesn't?

I get it, and I remember for years the talk was there would never be a MVC3 because Capcom wouldn't deal with the copyright hassle / payments / etc. to make another fighter for a costly 2D fighter (note that "costly" came about because I believe one of those early 2000s PS2 2D fighters - one of the Guilty Gear games? - cost a lot of money for really fluid 2D sprite animation and made no money back).  Then MVC2 was released in HD, MVC3 happened, a half-sequel happened, and now MVC 1 / Marvel Super Heroes got a HD release.  I figured they were good with the license now.

It's actually because X-Men appears in the name of the game, and in various parts of the game, like the title screen. That's it. If a character is an X-Man, they can totally be used, as long as it isn't an X-Men GAME.

God, IP laws are so confusing sometimes.

[no fact, no matter]

OK!! I had ready about Some NEW announcement at NYCC. I'll be soon!! Yeaaaah! http://p.twipple.jp/cbWxG

Darkstalkers reboot???

[Broward]

Darkstalkers 2 and 3 re-release (HD) on PSN / XBLA.

[Venkman]

But several X-Men appearing in the Marvel branded game doesn't?

I get it, and I remember for years the talk was there would never be a MVC3 because Capcom wouldn't deal with the copyright hassle / payments / etc. to make another fighter for a costly 2D fighter (note that "costly" came about because I believe one of those early 2000s PS2 2D fighters - one of the Guilty Gear games? - cost a lot of money for really fluid 2D sprite animation and made no money back).  Then MVC2 was released in HD, MVC3 happened, a half-sequel happened, and now MVC 1 / Marvel Super Heroes got a HD release.  I figured they were good with the license now.

It's actually because X-Men appears in the name of the game, and in various parts of the game, like the title screen. That's it. If a character is an X-Man, they can totally be used, as long as it isn't an X-Men GAME.

God, IP laws are so confusing sometimes.

So if they called the game "Marvel vs. Capcom Zero" and except for some re-branding and added special features it was the exact same game, it would be a-ok?

Hooray strange IP laws.

[Thrasher]

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/10/17/model-2-collection-brings-virtua-fighter-2-sonic-the-fighters/
 

[Thrasher]

I'm playing Capcom Collection Vol 2 that as SSF2 Turbo on it and it's the hardest fighting game I've ever played. The CPU is incredibly difficult even at the easiest level. Am I correct and is there a way to beat it?