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Currently in post-production and directed by Luca Guadagnino. He worked with Swinton in "A Bigger Splash" and directed "Call Me By Your Name" this year.

Dakota Johnson will play Susie Bannion while Swinton plays Madame Blanc. Chloe plays Patricia.

Thom Yorke is set to work on the score for the film.

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FUCK THIS.

Legit my favorite horror movie of all time and one that truely never should be remade.  You can't top the original, so make something original

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Yeah, I'm not very happy with this news either. Sure, it sounds like a solid cast, and Thom handling the score should be excellent, but I have TONS of issues with them remaking this classic.

On a side note, is anyone planning on checking out the 4k restoration re-release in theaters? I'm going to a Horror Con in Chicago in a few weeks and its playing there one of the evenings.

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Just a follow up on my previous post...RE: Suspiria 4k restoration in theaters....

I attended what ended up being the U.S. premiere for the new Suspiria cut on Friday night in Chicago as part of an awesome horror convention all weekend there. Synapse Films handled the restoration and it was holy shit times ten in the theater.

The colors and contrasts were immaculate and this was one of the better restorations I've ever seen for a 70s film. Really brought a new element of "wow" to the film. The soundtrack in the theater was a multichannel mono mix, meaning if a person was talking on the right side of the screen, you are only getting it on the right side speakers. There was a LOT of interesting sounds from this mix that I never noticed before until now.

They said they are trying to get a BluRay release on this by years end. But if it comes close to your local area, SEE IT!!!

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This...doesn't look bad TBH. I wasn't really expecting it to look or be too much like the original, and I'm willing to see what they have in store.


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I'm glad they seem to be going in a little bit of a different direction with this although I have a bit of a... possible Black Swan vibe from it. I'm intrigued enough to treat this as its own entity (and I'm board with anything Tilda Swinton does) though.

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That looks pretty interesting. I'm glad they are going for a completely different vibe from what it looks like. The color scheme is washed out and grey compared to the original. I recommend the director's last movie called A Bigger Splash which was a visually stunning and unique movie.

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I guess I have to eat a bit of crow because the trailer impressed the hell out of me. I have a lot higher hopes that this will be its own film with elements that made Suspiria so well known and beloved attached to the structure of the film.

Consider me very intrigued....

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Dig how it looks different but seems to have a similar tone to the original. Also, it will be two and a half hours long.


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I dunno, it certainly looks different but different in the way that Suspiria has a unique compelling visual style unlike most anything else (particularly at the time) and this looks like... a modern horror movie

Still giving it the benefit of the doubt, there's a lot of talented people involved in this and I don't think horror movies lend themselves to trailer-isation that well given it's a lot about atmosphere and tension

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Re: Suspiria Remake Starring Dakota Johnson, Chloe Moretz, and Tilda Swinton
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2018, 02:28:57 AM »
Maybe I'll actually be able to sit through this version.
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Re: Suspiria Remake Starring Dakota Johnson, Chloe Moretz, and Tilda Swinton
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2018, 02:32:07 AM »
It looks interesting for sure. I've been fooled by trailers before though. 
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Re: Suspiria Remake Starring Dakota Johnson, Chloe Moretz, and Tilda Swinton
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2018, 10:57:56 PM »
Saw this yesterday and agree a lot with 909's remarks in his thread. This movie really could have been trimmed (a lot of the Josef/Anke stuff could've been more succintly explained and I think the
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Susie/Killing of her Mom subplot could've been cut out completely or kept to a couple scenes at most
.) I'd probably give this a 7/10 but I don't know if I'd re-watch this again. A tighter, more edited film could've made this a potential film of the year but I feel like The Neon Demon was a better film overall and that was very polarizing.

As 909 said, kind of hard to wrap my head around this as a whole so I'll kind of bullet point my thoughts I guess.

  • The cinematography of the dances were fantastic and the costuming was great. The highlight was obviously the main dance scene featured in most trailers but the finale dance was equally impressive as much for its duration as anything else.
  • I like Thom Yorke but he was not a good fit. The scoring was just fine but it lacked the creepy tension of the original, which is iconic for a reason. I tried really hard to keep the original out of my head but the score was a big sore spot for me. I did like the homage to the original score during a later scene but that further showcased how radically different the entire film was. The score throughout the big final scene was jarring to me in a horrible way, yet I have a feeling that may've been intentional.
  • The acting was really great. Tilda Swinton and Dakota Johnson mostly carried this but a lot of the others were very solid in their roles as well. I kind of wish we saw more of the other dancers e.g. the Sara/Susie relationship or Caroline(?) as opposed to the other subplots which were going on.
  • There is a lot of nudity in this (penis, vagina, breasts, full body). Enough that I'm stunned this got an R Rating (I firmly believe if it didn't have the cast/Amazon behind it, it would've gotten an NC-17 so yay biased MPAA). Some graphic death scenes including
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    Olga, which went on for so long that it started to lose its impact for me
    .
  • Coven and Witchcraft gets announced very early. The film does a good job being its own thing and completely independent of the original outside of sharing a rough plot/same characters. It was easier to separate this in my head for the most part although it did exchange some gore/body functions (mainly urine based) as "shock" to replace what the original offered in that regard.
  • The final scene kind of left me a little confused
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    the rise of Suspiorum with it/she taking over Susie Bannon's body and killing off those who followed Markos(?) after Blanca got killed off
    but so much was going on that I'm unsure if I'm even right in that interpretation.

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Re: Suspiria Remake Starring Dakota Johnson, Chloe Moretz, and Tilda Swinton
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2018, 03:45:32 AM »
Saw this yesterday and agree a lot with 909's remarks in his thread. This movie really could have been trimmed (a lot of the Josef/Anke stuff could've been more succintly explained and I think the
Spoiler: show
Susie/Killing of her Mom subplot could've been cut out completely or kept to a couple scenes at most
.) I'd probably give this a 7/10 but I don't know if I'd re-watch this again. A tighter, more edited film could've made this a potential film of the year but I feel like The Neon Demon was a better film overall and that was very polarizing.

As 909 said, kind of hard to wrap my head around this as a whole so I'll kind of bullet point my thoughts I guess.

  • The cinematography of the dances were fantastic and the costuming was great. The highlight was obviously the main dance scene featured in most trailers but the finale dance was equally impressive as much for its duration as anything else.
  • I like Thom Yorke but he was not a good fit. The scoring was just fine but it lacked the creepy tension of the original, which is iconic for a reason. I tried really hard to keep the original out of my head but the score was a big sore spot for me. I did like the homage to the original score during a later scene but that further showcased how radically different the entire film was. The score throughout the big final scene was jarring to me in a horrible way, yet I have a feeling that may've been intentional.
  • The acting was really great. Tilda Swinton and Dakota Johnson mostly carried this but a lot of the others were very solid in their roles as well. I kind of wish we saw more of the other dancers e.g. the Sara/Susie relationship or Caroline(?) as opposed to the other subplots which were going on.
  • There is a lot of nudity in this (penis, vagina, breasts, full body). Enough that I'm stunned this got an R Rating (I firmly believe if it didn't have the cast/Amazon behind it, it would've gotten an NC-17 so yay biased MPAA). Some graphic death scenes including
    Spoiler: show
    Olga, which went on for so long that it started to lose its impact for me
    .
  • Coven and Witchcraft gets announced very early. The film does a good job being its own thing and completely independent of the original outside of sharing a rough plot/same characters. It was easier to separate this in my head for the most part although it did exchange some gore/body functions (mainly urine based) as "shock" to replace what the original offered in that regard.
  • The final scene kind of left me a little confused
    Spoiler: show
    the rise of Suspiorum with it/she taking over Susie Bannon's body and killing off those who followed Markos(?) after Blanca got killed off
    but so much was going on that I'm unsure if I'm even right in that interpretation.

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She was always Suspiriorum. Hence her mom's line about her always being evil.


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Re: Suspiria Remake Starring Dakota Johnson, Chloe Moretz, and Tilda Swinton
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2018, 07:19:09 AM »
Saw this yesterday and agree a lot with 909's remarks in his thread. This movie really could have been trimmed (a lot of the Josef/Anke stuff could've been more succintly explained and I think the
Spoiler: show
Susie/Killing of her Mom subplot could've been cut out completely or kept to a couple scenes at most
.) I'd probably give this a 7/10 but I don't know if I'd re-watch this again. A tighter, more edited film could've made this a potential film of the year but I feel like The Neon Demon was a better film overall and that was very polarizing.

As 909 said, kind of hard to wrap my head around this as a whole so I'll kind of bullet point my thoughts I guess.

  • The cinematography of the dances were fantastic and the costuming was great. The highlight was obviously the main dance scene featured in most trailers but the finale dance was equally impressive as much for its duration as anything else.
  • I like Thom Yorke but he was not a good fit. The scoring was just fine but it lacked the creepy tension of the original, which is iconic for a reason. I tried really hard to keep the original out of my head but the score was a big sore spot for me. I did like the homage to the original score during a later scene but that further showcased how radically different the entire film was. The score throughout the big final scene was jarring to me in a horrible way, yet I have a feeling that may've been intentional.
  • The acting was really great. Tilda Swinton and Dakota Johnson mostly carried this but a lot of the others were very solid in their roles as well. I kind of wish we saw more of the other dancers e.g. the Sara/Susie relationship or Caroline(?) as opposed to the other subplots which were going on.
  • There is a lot of nudity in this (penis, vagina, breasts, full body). Enough that I'm stunned this got an R Rating (I firmly believe if it didn't have the cast/Amazon behind it, it would've gotten an NC-17 so yay biased MPAA). Some graphic death scenes including
    Spoiler: show
    Olga, which went on for so long that it started to lose its impact for me
    .
  • Coven and Witchcraft gets announced very early. The film does a good job being its own thing and completely independent of the original outside of sharing a rough plot/same characters. It was easier to separate this in my head for the most part although it did exchange some gore/body functions (mainly urine based) as "shock" to replace what the original offered in that regard.
  • The final scene kind of left me a little confused
    Spoiler: show
    the rise of Suspiorum with it/she taking over Susie Bannon's body and killing off those who followed Markos(?) after Blanca got killed off
    but so much was going on that I'm unsure if I'm even right in that interpretation.

Spoiler: show
She was always Suspiriorum. Hence her mom's line about her always being evil.


Thanks :)
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It took me watching a video explaining the ending for me to also realize that Markos was implying she was actually Suspiriorum the whole time thus the "I am she," line from Susie and the subsequent death of Markos.

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Re: Suspiria Remake Starring Dakota Johnson, Chloe Moretz, and Tilda Swinton
« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2018, 02:04:58 PM »
Yeah, I saw this tonight and it is definitely not for everyone.  You know the saying "they don't make 'em like this anymore"?  Well, they do, and Suspiria is the result.  I wouldn't say I enjoyed it as much as I was intrigued by it.  Despite the length, it definitely held my attention.

And 909 is right -- I've seen a lot of fucked up movies and this one is right up there.  I can think of maybe one or two off the top of my head more fucked than this one, which isn't a bad thing.

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Re: Suspiria Remake Starring Dakota Johnson, Chloe Moretz, and Tilda Swinton
« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2018, 02:38:12 PM »
Like HQ I can't stress enough how much surprise I have that this was given an R rating. I can't imagine what more they could have done here to get an NC-17.

Yeah, I saw this tonight and it is definitely not for everyone.  You know the saying "they don't make 'em like this anymore"?  Well, they do, and Suspiria is the result.  I wouldn't say I enjoyed it as much as I was intrigued by it.  Despite the length, it definitely held my attention.

And 909 is right -- I've seen a lot of fucked up movies and this one is right up there.  I can think of maybe one or two off the top of my head more fucked than this one, which isn't a bad thing.

I think this is where I'm at too. It's good cinema, definitely an intriguing and thought provoking film. Enjoyable is not the appropriate word. Was extremely surprised that nobody left the theater during the final scenes and I'm surprised some of this shit even made it to film. I also just realized that:

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The only two male actors in the movie were made to drop their shorts and nearly had a meat hook put through their dicks


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Re: Suspiria Remake Starring Dakota Johnson, Chloe Moretz, and Tilda Swinton
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2018, 05:50:46 AM »
Caught this over the weekend and....well.....it certainly wasnt much of a remake. I felt like this went in so many completely different and twisted directions that I had lost count on just how many it did. It did keep names and some roles intact for sure, but this was kind of like a bad acid trip on film to me. I hold the original Suspiria dear to my horror loving fandom as a uniquely equal terrifying/suspenseful adventure of a film that really never gets old viewing after viewing. In constrast, I can tell you without hesistation that I will never care to watch this again....it was a trainwreck of shock value mixed with a confusing and far too ambiguous script that really never took hold of me and led me interested in the events that transpired at all. In fact the additions to this version left me more wanting them to pull back and play to the thematic parts of the original that made it work so well back then.

There was a lot of food for thought in what they did to elaborate from the original story, but ultimately it just left me, by the end of this, wondering what the fuck I just saw and why they felt the need to go this off the cliff with their storytelling. Like many said, this wasn't so much pure shit necessarily, but it was offending to a degree that this went so fucking long without anything of incredible substance to take from it other than scene after scene of a borderline torture porn effect.

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Re: Suspiria Remake Starring Dakota Johnson, Chloe Moretz, and Tilda Swinton
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2019, 06:53:43 AM »
BUMP for Cookie to see :) Should give you a good idea of what most of us thought.

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Re: Suspiria Remake Starring Dakota Johnson, Chloe Moretz, and Tilda Swinton
« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2019, 07:54:28 AM »
Thank you! I should have looked but didn't remember seeing it. Anyway here is my post from another thread:

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I watched the Suspiria "remake" which I initially scoffed at because I hate when good movies are remade. I wish I had seen it in the theater because holy shit was this good. It only has tangential similarities to the original. Tilda Swinton keeps calling it a "cover version" and the director calls it a "reimagination." Both of those work but the idea of doing a cover of a movie is interesting and it works. Both versions of the song "Hurt" are good, the Nine Inch Nails and the Johnny Cash version. I think it just comes to a personal preference and it's nice that such a great song has two different versions (not to mention all the other lesser-known versions) to choose from. And since the story behind Suspiria is so deep and potentially complex, it's great that there's different versions to choose from, depending on your tastes of even your mood.

It's one of those movies that I wanted to watch again almost immediately. I was struck with how good some of the performances were. Tilda Swinton plays multiple characters, some I didn't believe even though the promotional material has made it clear she's playing them. I watched an interview where Tilda is speaking to an audience that JUST saw the movie and when it is mentioned she plays one character in particular, the audience gasps in disbelief so Tilda tongue-in-cheek backtracks and creates a story of an unknown actor they cast to play that role, that it wasn't REALLY her. I was also struck by Mia Goth's performance. Her scenes with the doctor were some of the best scenes in the whole film. I'd never noticed her in any of the other couple of movies she's been in but I think she could be a real breakthrough star in the next few years. She has an early Angelina Jolie quality to her.

It isn't as much as a "horror" movie as the original. Much less gore. I only watch a few horror movies a year, as I usually am not interested in the stories. There's a scene early here that is as brutal as any scene I've ever seen in a film and it contains little (if any?) blood. After that scene I was a little worried it would just be 2 hours of stuff like that but it's really not. The movie is more "supernatural" or "creepy" than straight up bloody and disgusting.

Did anyone else like this movie? How did it relate to the original, in you opinion? I know that it was very polarizing (the mother! of this year, I guess) and won't win any awards but I hope this idea of "covering" movies is explored more in the future.

After reading the thread, I was right, it is very polarizing. I suspect I like this more than most.

I did mean to add a point that 909 touched on: there's virtually no men in this movie. Only men I can recall at all are the cops. I think that's interesting, and given the lengths they went to (hours of makeup a day I'd assume) with the doctor, it has to be intentional.