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« on: April 12, 2010, 06:08:51 AM »
Kick it off with this firing.

Both Rick Tocchet and Brian Lawton have been let go in Tampa Bay.

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« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2010, 06:58:31 AM »
Hopefully Glenn Sather and John Tortarello aren't far behind.
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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2010, 08:50:31 AM »
Surprise, surprise. Another season done and another player wants out of Edmonton. Souray essentially said he likes the city and fans but management are a bunch of stupid fucks and so he wants to be traded.

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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2010, 09:01:14 AM »
No one is going to eat up his salary for a slower injury prone version of Mike Green.

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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2010, 09:56:41 AM »
No one is going to eat up his salary for a slower injury prone version of Mike Green.

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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2010, 10:00:07 AM »
Sheldon Souray for Ryan Callahan.

Seems illogical but these two GM's aren't the brightest either.

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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2010, 11:49:08 AM »
You know at this point, I really don't know what to believe concerning my Oilers. Do I believe everyone who wants out? Or do these guys want special treatment and aren't getting it?

I really don't know...

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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2010, 01:51:56 PM »
"Someone else will jump at my high salary and piss-poor play in my own end! Take that, Oilers management!"

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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2010, 04:07:40 PM »
 ??? So you mean Pronger was the same? Damn...

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« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2010, 11:29:51 PM »
Who do we have as early award contenders? Vezina could be tough. Miller and Bryzgalov are locks, but who's the third? Anderson? Quick? Howard? Maybe Rask?

Are Sedin, Crosby, Ovechkin the only three up for the Hart? Could either of the two goalies above work their way into the conversation?

There's four or five contenders for the Calder: Duchene, Howard, Rask, Tavares.

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« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2010, 11:59:28 PM »
Tyler Myers finished only 6 points behind Tavares in scoring.  He's also a defensemen.

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« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2010, 01:59:18 AM »
I don't think it's a stretch to say Myers was the best Sabre not named Miller this season.

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« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2010, 02:02:48 AM »
Honestly I couldn't even name the next closest person and be at all convinced I had the right guy.  The team outside of those two play at a decidedly average level.  Myers even managed to bring Tallinder back from the dead just by being paired with him.

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« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2010, 03:09:11 AM »
Hecht actually practiced today so the only person not on the ice is Stafford, who's been assumed to be losing his spot in the lineup to Tyler Ennis anyway.

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« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2010, 03:45:18 AM »
Who do we have as early award contenders? Vezina could be tough. Miller and Bryzgalov are locks, but who's the third? Anderson? Quick? Howard? Maybe Rask?

Are Sedin, Crosby, Ovechkin the only three up for the Hart? Could either of the two goalies above work their way into the conversation?

There's four or five contenders for the Calder: Duchene, Howard, Rask, Tavares.
The Vezina is indeed a two player race, which should be won by Bryzgalov. He should also be winning the Hart as well. I mean have you seen the Coyotes? No? That's the whole reason why he's not going to win either award when he should. It'll go to Miller, I'd wager that likely Howard will take second and because of the team mentality that Bryzgalov will get third. Though I wouldn't be surprised about Quick or Rask getting a nod, I think Bryzgalov is gong to get shafted here.

So, no I don't think that the goalies are going to get into the conversation. But that leaves the 3 players mentioned before for the Hart. It should go to Sedin, but because we have this fasination with goal scoring, it'll likely end up going Crosby, Ovechkin and then finally Sedin.

It should be a contest between Tavares and Myers. Neither goalie are going to get it, and while Myers should win it since as was mentioned he's only 6 points behind Tavares, plays sound defense on top of being a scoring outlit but he won't get it because he's averaging a full 6 minutes more than Tavares. So it will go Tavares, Myers and then whichever goalie they feel like giving a shout out too to please the masses.

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« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2010, 03:53:57 AM »
I'd like to point out again that the Sabres managed FOUR wins without Miller this year.  Phoenix got twice as many out of not Bryzgalov and Miller had a better GAA and save %.  Neither team has any scorers of note.

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« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2010, 05:07:24 AM »
Quick was butt down the stretch, no way he gets a nomination.


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« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2010, 05:10:20 AM »
My Calder vote would certainly go to Rask.  He's the only goalie in the entire league with a GAA under 2 and SV% over .930.  He'd get serious Vezina consideration if he'd played more games.

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« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2010, 06:32:35 AM »
Dallas is not resigning Marty Turco.

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« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2010, 06:59:56 AM »
I think it was someone on espn.com who mentioned Howard's age compared to the rest of the Calder candidates was what was going to cost him whatever minute chance he had at the award.

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« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2010, 11:45:04 AM »
The Leafs didn't win the lottery!

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« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2010, 11:51:16 AM »
So it's time for the Bruins to draft another young stud they will keep for three years and then refuse to pony up the dough to keep them there.

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« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2010, 11:53:45 AM »
Is Taylor Hall still expected to go second?  I'd laugh when he outscores Kessel every year for the rest of their careers...but it doesn't exactly benefit anyone else in the division when Boston gets good players.  Fucking Toronto.

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« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2010, 11:55:14 AM »
The Rangers end up with the 10th pick. That's not a horrible pick, but I'm not up on the guys that can be drafted. Is it a deep field this year? I have to pick up The Hockey News' annual issue of prospects.

Also, just wondering what people think of the way the NHL does it's lottery, you can't fall more than 1 spot down or rise more than 4 spots, compared to the NBA?
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« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2010, 02:21:06 PM »
I know not many people follow the KHL or anything over seas, but Dynamo Moscow folded in Russia.

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« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2010, 10:48:34 AM »
Complete award nominee list:

VEZINA TROPHY
Ryan Miller, Buffalo Sabres
Martin Brodeur, New Jersey Devils
Ilya Bryzgalov, Phoenix Coyotes

FRANK J. SELKE TROPHY
Pavel Datsyuk, Detroit Red Wings
Ryan Kesler, Vancouver Canucks
Jordan Staal, Pittsburgh Penguins

LADY BYNG MEMORIAL TROPHY
Pavel Datsyuk, Detroit Red Wings
Brad Richards, Dallas Stars
Martin St. Louis, Tampa Bay Lightning

CALDER MEMORIAL TROPHY
Matt Duchene, Colorado Avalanche
Jimmy Howard, Detroit Red Wings
Tyler Myers, Buffalo Sabres

JAMES NORRIS MEMORIAL TROPHY
Drew Doughty, Los Angeles Kings
Mike Green, Washington Capitals
Duncan Keith, Chicago Blackhawks

MASTERTON TROPHY
Kurtis Foster, Tampa Bay Lightning
Jed Ortmeyer, San Jose Sharks
Jose Theodore, Washington Capitals

JACK ADAMS AWARD
Joe Sacco, Colorado Avalanche
Dave Tippett, Phoenix Coyotes
Barry Trotz, Nashville Predators

HART MEMORIAL TROPHY
Sidney Crosby, Pittsburgh Penguins
Alex Ovechkin, Washington Capitals
Henrik Sedin, Vancouver Canucks

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« Reply #26 on: May 01, 2010, 01:09:09 AM »
The Union, at whom I'm still pissed for the lockout, have decided to honour Ted Lindsay by renaming the Pearson award after him. I like the show of respect, but not at the expense of my boy Mike Pearson.

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« Reply #27 on: May 25, 2010, 08:41:45 AM »
Lightning hired Yzerman :(

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« Reply #28 on: May 25, 2010, 10:21:25 AM »
Sucks that he left and I imagine he was just too impatient to wait for Holland to leave.

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« Reply #29 on: May 26, 2010, 09:31:13 AM »
That's got to be kind of awkward. Yzerman was the GM of Team Canada and didn't pick Lecavalier, St Louis, OR Stamkos for the team.

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« Reply #30 on: May 26, 2010, 10:40:33 AM »
Maybe he's just biding his time and warming up for the Detroit job by taking a less stressful one? I can't imagine your first major job being a high executive in Detroit.

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« Reply #31 on: May 26, 2010, 11:11:03 AM »
Rumors are Holland was going to extend his contract, which is what led to Yzerman to take the Lightning job.

Psycho, I don't think the Lightning job is going to be less stressful. I think its about as stressful as you can get right now outside of running the Boils or the Laughs. The Lightning have a ton of cap tied up and the only way to get rid of it is by trade, and frankly there's no way they'll get as near a return as what they could've. Hell, the best offer they were getting was from the Canadiens, and I don't think they want to trade for Vinny anymore.

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« Reply #32 on: May 26, 2010, 11:15:33 AM »
Oh come on, there's no pressure to do anything in Tampa Bay. The Lightning team itself was a throw-in for a real estate purchase and they have no serious fanbase, media, or ownership to hold them accountable for anything. As long as the Bolts fill the arena dates that Carrie Underwood and Kenny Chesney don't, nobody gives a flying fuck what they do on the ice. The Red Wings will hire Yzerman back as soon as possible irrespective of his work in Tampa Bay, which will probably only be to cut salary where possible in between rounds of golf.

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« Reply #33 on: May 26, 2010, 11:38:22 AM »
Oh come on, there's no pressure to do anything in Tampa Bay. The Lightning team itself was a throw-in for a real estate purchase and they have no serious fanbase, media, or ownership to hold them accountable for anything. As long as the Bolts fill the arena dates that Carrie Underwood and Kenny Chesney don't, nobody gives a flying fuck what they do on the ice. The Red Wings will hire Yzerman back as soon as possible irrespective of his work in Tampa Bay, which will probably only be to cut salary where possible in between rounds of golf.

Pretty much... I'd have to imagine a lot more people care about hockey in Detroit than Tampa. The seemingly 100,000 'fans' after 2004 sure did disappear in a hurry.

So Yzerman goes to a place that needs a lot of help but there isn't a ton of pressure to get it done. Seems like a good idea for him. If he fails in Tampa, he'd still get a shot in Detroit I'd have to imagine. And if he succeeds, he has a head start going into Detroit.

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« Reply #34 on: May 26, 2010, 03:05:19 PM »
Maybe he'll just trade Stamkos to the Wings for Andreas Lilja and some Little Caesar's coupons and then come back home after he gets fired. I don't think Bettman would actually have the balls to go after the Wings for tampering, so I wouldn't be completely shocked if something like that happened.

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« Reply #35 on: May 27, 2010, 02:08:35 PM »
Caps vs Penguins @ Heinz Field on New Years Day and in February, Montreal will be in Calgary @ McMahon Stadium

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« Reply #36 on: May 27, 2010, 02:14:01 PM »
Of course that's the one year my Caps fan friend is going to be Asia, we'd prob end up going

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« Reply #37 on: May 28, 2010, 12:17:19 AM »
Though I'm sure the second one won't even air in the States, having two takes away from the novelty no?

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« Reply #38 on: May 28, 2010, 03:39:25 AM »
All the Canadian fans complain about not being represented on Winter Classic day. I think it won't take away from the Winter Classic.
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« Reply #39 on: May 28, 2010, 11:09:22 AM »
Though I'm sure the second one won't even air in the States, having two takes away from the novelty no?

Steve Simmons is writing an article why its a bad idea because its not in Toronto.

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« Reply #40 on: June 09, 2010, 08:26:14 AM »
Rob Blake announced his retirement today.

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« Reply #41 on: June 09, 2010, 08:35:57 AM »
LOL


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« Reply #42 on: June 10, 2010, 02:26:55 AM »
I don't understand how Rob Blake announcing his retirement is something that will make someone laugh out loud, but laugh out loud to the point that it requires capital letters

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« Reply #43 on: June 10, 2010, 03:45:11 AM »
I detest Rob Blake. He demanded to be traded when we had a good team, then this last time he was here, refused to be traded for parts we needed when we had a bad one and played like a lazy shit for both seasons. Fuck that guy.


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« Reply #44 on: June 10, 2010, 06:36:59 AM »
Well, 909. You probably won't like the fact that he probably will get into the HoF.

Honestly, I wish Hockey would have some standard we could all follow for selections. Its mostly guess and test and even then you never know.

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« Reply #45 on: June 10, 2010, 06:39:37 AM »
He deserves to get in the HoF, but I still hate his guts. What makes me sick is that the Kings might retire his number. Gross.


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« Reply #46 on: June 10, 2010, 08:21:01 AM »
I detest Rob Blake. He demanded to be traded when we had a good team, then this last time he was here, refused to be traded for parts we needed when we had a bad one and played like a lazy shit for both seasons. Fuck that guy.

I still don't see how that equates to laughing out loud (with capital letters!) over his retirement. It's not like he went out on an injury

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« Reply #47 on: June 10, 2010, 08:24:15 AM »
I'm laughing out loud that he didn't win the Cup with the Sharks and would rather quit than try to win the Cup again.


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« Reply #48 on: June 10, 2010, 11:45:08 AM »
If I'm not mistaken he's got a few, so he doesn't have the need to get his first.

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« Reply #49 on: June 10, 2010, 11:46:06 AM »
one, but obviously he was still hanging on in hopes of winning

but he didn't

so I laugh at his failure


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