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« on: September 08, 2011, 05:47:11 AM »
From 1997 to around 02/03, Nu-Metal was huge and I loved it. I remember being 14 and debating on a random message board as to who's the better band between Korn and Led Zeppelin. I thought the Korn slap bass style was way better than "When the Levee Breaks". Here's a thread where TRTSM posts the lamest Nu-Metal songs that you know you listened to.

P.S., my 37 year old brother still listens to most of this shit.


Once, Hetfield's vocals kick in, I'm pissing my self.






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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2011, 05:54:36 AM »
One of the guys in Saliva is a registered sex offender.

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« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2011, 06:02:29 AM »
One of the guys in Saliva is a registered sex offender.

Is it this guy?



I love reading the ages of the guys in Nu-Metal bands. The guy in that picture is 39, Fred Durst is like 42 and Jonathon Davis turned 40 this year. That still don't stop them unleashing their great lyrics all over America.




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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2011, 06:08:25 AM »
The new Limp Bizkit album is so fucking awful. The entire first half are songs where Fred is telling people who thought they couldn't make a come to fuck off. It's really shitty.

I got into Korn when their first album came out in 1994. I still listen to them and I'm still a fan of them. The rest of those bands, I hardly listened to then and don't listen to now.
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« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2011, 06:24:08 AM »
I'll always have a soft spot for Korn.  Im not digging the most recent 2 albums, but love the old stuff.

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« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2011, 06:41:02 AM »
One of the guys in Saliva is a registered sex offender.

Only one?

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« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2011, 07:02:34 AM »


Did you know that before faggot Corey Taylor joined the band, Slipknot sounded like this



Fuck Corey Taylor. If they would've kept this guy as vocalist, then Slipknot could've ended up being a death metal version of Mr. Bungle.

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« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2011, 07:02:51 AM »
Damn the late 90s was a real shitty time

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« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2011, 07:20:00 AM »
Damn the late 90s was a real shitty time
                                                                                       
the last 5 years of mainstream rap are up there with it.

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« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2011, 07:21:51 AM »


I actually have this CD somewhere in my basement, or maybe under my bed.  I bought it for the LOLz, I promise.  And they were had.

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« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2011, 07:27:32 AM »


I actually have this CD somewhere in my basement, or maybe under my bed.  I bought it for the LOLz, I promise.  And they were had.

I own the second CD for the same reason. He changed his name to V-Ice for it and many Lulz happened.



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« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2011, 08:44:39 AM »


I can't believe one of the most popular nu-metal songs ever has the lead singer getting raped with a dildo by his mom towards the end of the song.

That made me ??? as a kid. I was >:( that they didn't include that part in Rock Band 2.

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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2011, 09:26:33 AM »
I went to Sonisphere this summer, and was flabbergasted at how many people were there to see Slipknot. I did not realize they still had so many fans. Somebody even tried to tell me that Slipknot was not a gimmick, without me even calling them a gimmick. Defensive much?

Also, Disturbed makes me laugh; I used to work with a guy who was big into black/death metal, and someone told him that if he wanted to listen to something *really* heavy, he should listen to Disturbed. He just laughed in the guy's face.
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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2011, 10:00:43 AM »

The two most hated genres of the late '90s: teen pop and nu-metal merge as one!
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« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2011, 10:04:28 AM »
Oh man, I can go on all day at the amount of shitty nu-metal I used to listen to. I can occasionally go back and listen to some of this stuff and still have fun with it but it still stumps me as to why I ever thought this was great stuff musically and lyrically. Here's a taste:






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« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2011, 10:20:36 AM »
Damn the late 90s was a real shitty time
                                                                                       
the last 5 years of mainstream rap are up there with it.

I was going to make a thread for posting lame songs from the last 5 years of mainstream rap, but I guess that's what The Rap/Hip-Hop thread is for.



BING!

Here's the one nu-metal band even I thought was ghey.





What's weird is that the music is actually way better than most Nu-Metal, they just happen to have one of the worst vocalists ever and some of the lamest lyrics ever.

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« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2011, 11:10:19 AM »

In retrospect, Rivers Cuomo doing this song's guitar solo was probably the moment he jumped the shark.

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« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2011, 11:16:36 AM »
Finding a box of old cd's from my childhood and in addition to V-Ice, I also had the first cd of Tommy Lee's nu-metal band.


 :D, Tommy Lee was 48 when he released this.


and 37 when he released this.


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« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2011, 11:18:18 AM »
Quite an appropriate title for that last Methods of Mayhem song. 

I still maintain that Crazy Town's "Butterfly" is the worst #1 single ever, worse than "Fireflies," worse than Ja Rule.

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« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2011, 11:21:09 AM »
Quite an appropriate title for that last Methods of Mayhem song.  

I still maintain that Crazy Town's "Butterfly" is the worst #1 single ever, worse than "Fireflies," worse than Ja Rule.

It is one of those horrific songs that can get a laugh when I randomly sing it in front of my friends.

Here's death metal pioneers turned nu-metal washouts, Morbid Angel



One of my favorite metal bands releasing an album worse than V-Ice is shameful.

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« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2011, 01:29:06 PM »
Damn the late 90s was a real shitty time
                                                                                       
the last 10 years of mainstream rap are up there with it.



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« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2011, 02:20:03 PM »
Damn the late 90s was a real shitty time
                                                                                       
the last 10 years of mainstream rap are up there with it.




Well the first half of the decade did feature three Jay-Z classics, The College Dropout, some Outkast classics, DMX had some good shit, and Marshall Mathers LP/Eminem Show. That should save itself from being mentioned in the same breath as 05-11. Terrible shit like Nelly, Ja Rule, Diddy, Chingy, Lil' Jon, and too a much lesser extent 50 Cent  polluted the mainstream. I would still take them over some of the shit that the mainstream's been loving in the past 6 years.

Mainstream rape could get saved cause there ain't no stopping Tyler The Creator and he's gonna get bigger and bigger the next few years. If Death Grips somehow breaks into the quasi-mainstream, I'll go up to a random person on the street and  :-*.


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« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2011, 02:21:28 PM »
The shyte part about Slipknot is that the first minute or two of every song is surprisingly decent metal, but then...ugh...it just devolves into pop garbage. I used to be big into them when the s/t came out and still even like a few songs (namely "Heretic Anthem" and the album version of "My Plague," as well as "Psychosocial" for how deliciously they rip off "Ride the Lightning"'s main riff), but man...once I got into Slayer and Nile? All I used to do is rag on the people I knew who still listened to them.

Some more garbage.





(still a guilty pleasure, and the first album is surprisingly decent)

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« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2011, 02:23:01 PM »
The shyte part about Slipknot is that the first minute or two of every song is surprisingly decent metal, but then...ugh...it just devolves into pop garbage. I used to be big into them when the s/t came out and still even like a few songs (namely "Heretic Anthem" and the album version of "My Plague," as well as "Psychosocial" for how deliciously they rip off "Ride the Lightning"'s main riff), but man...once I got into Slayer and Nile? All I used to do is rag on the people I knew who still listened to them.


Did you listen to the vid of Slipknot without Corey Taylor? It's very mindblowing. The dead bass player was insane on that song.

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« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2011, 02:41:16 PM »
Mainstream rap died when Soulja Boy encouraged all these fags to wear skinny jeans and make beats on cell phones. There was some good shit in 05-06. I remember 2007 really as the beginning of this decline.

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« Reply #27 on: September 08, 2011, 02:43:42 PM »
Damn the late 90s was a real shitty time
                                                                                       
the last 10 years of mainstream rap are up there with it.




Well the first half of the decade did feature three Jay-Z classics, The College Dropout and Marshall Mathers LP/Eminem Show. That should save itself from being mentioned in the same breath as 05-11.

Ja Rule and Nelly were pretty damn popular in the early 2000s, though.

Everyone has their own theory on when and why mainstream rap died, though. For me, I just remember hating pretty much everything that came out starting in 2002.

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« Reply #28 on: September 08, 2011, 03:02:19 PM »
Mainstream rape could get saved

:o


BING AGAIN!

Anyways

Let's get back to real nu-metal






Me and the rest of the 7th graders found this to be the most unintentionally funniest video ever yet still purchased the album.

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« Reply #30 on: September 08, 2011, 03:16:09 PM »
I guess I didn't like nu-metal as much as I thought I did. I've only heard of like half of these bands.

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« Reply #31 on: September 08, 2011, 03:24:20 PM »
I guess I didn't like nu-metal as much as I thought I did. I've only heard of like half of these bands.

Your missing out. These videos/songs are the funniest thing ever when you relive them through a jaded adult's eyes.

I still have several tapes of nu-metal videos I taped from the MTV hard rock/their vision of metal show. I need to go through them and find some gems.

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« Reply #32 on: September 08, 2011, 03:36:41 PM »
I spent my teenage years trying to emulate mainstream rappers. That's probably why I didn't pay attention to a lot of these bands.

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« Reply #34 on: September 08, 2011, 03:51:46 PM »
I spent my teenage years trying to emulate mainstream rapers. That's probably why I didn't pay attention to a lot of these bands.

Only rappers I listened to in my nu-metal phase were Eminem, Busta Rhymes, and DMX.

More horrible nu-metal


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« Reply #35 on: September 08, 2011, 10:25:43 PM »


I loved this song when I was 14. LOVED.





A good friend used to be in the Navy. Whenever he would come home on leave and we would hang out, Adema's album with "Giving in" and "The Way You Like It" was what he always wanted to listen to. I have to confess to enjoying the song Adema made for Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance.

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« Reply #36 on: September 08, 2011, 10:51:52 PM »
The shyte part about Slipknot is that the first minute or two of every song is surprisingly decent metal, but then...ugh...it just devolves into pop garbage. I used to be big into them when the s/t came out and still even like a few songs (namely "Heretic Anthem" and the album version of "My Plague," as well as "Psychosocial" for how deliciously they rip off "Ride the Lightning"'s main riff), but man...once I got into Slayer and Nile? All I used to do is rag on the people I knew who still listened to them.


Did you listen to the vid of Slipknot without Corey Taylor? It's very mindblowing. The dead bass player was insane on that song.
Yeah. I've heard half of MateFeedKillRepeat years ago (since the other half was altered to go on the self-titled). I'm not exactly a fan of Mr. Bungle (just a preference, because it's ridiculous how talented they are), so playing a more grind-influenced Bungle isn't going to endear me.

It's still fucking sad how bad they dumbed themselves down. I could see pulling a Metallica, exchanging the technicality for groove and an excellent riff, but this...ugh...Mick Thompson is an extremely talented guitarist that resorts to riffs Dino Cazares wrote 15 years ago and Joey Jordison is really the only person who's allowed to show any hint of talent. If Slipknot did one positive thing (outside of get an entire generation of angry young boys into heavier shit, thus allowing them to seek out more and more of it and, eventually, find real metal)? It's place a solid emphasis in heavy music on the drumming.
Mainstream rap died when Soulja Boy encouraged all these fags to wear skinny jeans and make beats on cell phones. There was some good shit in 05-06. I remember 2007 really as the beginning of this decline.
Odd how I've been ranting about Soulja Boy since he first broke and now people are starting to realize I was right, eh?

Kittie actually started producing somewhat decent music after their second album. They still can't write a fucking full song to save their lives, but the material from the third album to the one that came out last year is decent. I just wish Fallon Bowman (the darker skinned guitarist in that video, with the bright red hair) didn't freak out and join a cult. She was cute.

MORE GARBAGE!


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(I'm surprised this didn't get posted earlier, but its only positive is that it was the last nu metal song to really be a big hit)

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« Reply #37 on: September 09, 2011, 12:24:39 AM »


This is a horrible midwestern based band that I saw live at the local shithole five years ago. They were the headliners of a concert featuring a shitty metalcore band a few acquaintances were in.

It was both the best and worst experience ever. First, one of the band members name was Da Boogeyman. This was around the same time the wrestling version of The Boogeyman debuted so I kept trolling him and got an ironic autograph. Second, the music was hilariously bad. Third, the front man had a surprising amount of presence/swag and was hilarious despite being in a terrible band. I remember him breakdancing, pulling out capoeria moves, calling the audience faggots, and saying "MY NIGGAHS" right before a awful breakdown.

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« Reply #38 on: September 09, 2011, 01:32:06 AM »
Damn the late 90s was a real shitty time
                                                                                       
the last 5 years of mainstream rap are up there with it.

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« Reply #39 on: September 09, 2011, 01:45:24 AM »
Man, I got tired of that fucking Headstrong song quick (It was on Legends of Wrestling video game soundtrack too!). Not really a huge rock/metal guy, but there were a few nu-metal bands I listened to. Mainly the well-known ones: Disturbed, Godsmack, System of a Down (not sure if they count) Saliva, etc. Anyways, are there any nu-metal bands considered good even now, or is the genre just one big fail from start to finish?

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« Reply #40 on: September 09, 2011, 02:22:30 AM »
I present for the approval of the board, "Proposition Fuck You" by Tommy Lee's Methods of Mayhem

"New Skin" - the album version of this featured Kid Rock "rapping" during the second verse.  Just his usual bullshit about his album going platinum however many times.

"Get Naked"

This is the disc that the MoM album was on:


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« Reply #41 on: September 09, 2011, 03:14:35 AM »
I was an angsty little teenager in the 90's, so I still have a soft spot for bands like Korn, Disturbed, Adema, Powerman 5000, Mudvayne, etc. Though looking back on the content of some of the songs, I can see why parents would be worried.

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« Reply #42 on: September 09, 2011, 03:18:19 AM »
Throw your hate at me
With all your might
Hit me cuz I'm strange
Hit me
Tell me I'm a pussy
And you're harder than me
What's with you, boy?
Think hard
A tattooed body to
Hide who you are
Scared to be honest
Be yourself
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« Reply #43 on: September 09, 2011, 05:54:37 AM »
System of a Down (not sure if they count) 
We've actually had this debate quite a few times. I'm iffy on them. At times they're pretty fucking great (especially their slower stuff, oddly enough, because the unique voices of Serj and Daron work rather well with the music), but a lot of their more popular stuff is garbage (I see you, "Violent Pornography") or filled with horrid uber-liberal politics (yeah, "BYOB," you're here).
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Anyways, are there any nu-metal bands considered good even now, or is the genre just one big fail from start to finish?
It's basically died off because there never was a true definition of what "nu-metal" entailed. At first it was just heavier alternative rock, like Helmet, and then it was any band that blended rap with rock, like {insert every rap/rock band}, but then kinda formed into overly melodic grunge-inspired drivel that used the break-beat as a backing structure, like Disturbed. Stuff like thrash, death, black, doom, etc. has lasted because there's pretty clear definitions of what they entail as a whole, despite the bands that push the envelope within those sub-genres, but nu-metal never had that. It was, basically, a catch-all term for any popular heavier-than-NSync music released between 1997 and 2003.

A friend (well, person I converse with frequently via the Internet, who used to write for 411) and I did a co-op article for a site he wrote for that tried to dissect the rise and fall of nu-metal as well as why it was a horrible "genre" that was never going to last beyond a few years. If I can find it I'll edit this and link it, but I think the site it was for is now gone.

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« Reply #44 on: September 09, 2011, 06:01:23 AM »
I never really considered a few of the bands listed as nu-metal. Powerman 5000 was around for a bit before that title was being thrown around. I really like their stuff (their new album is pretty damn good). They started more as a funk-metal outfit, then moved on to a more electronic-metal sound, threw in some punk and then went back to their electronic-metal.

Disturbed, even though they came out during that time, I, personally didn't put in as nu-metal, but I can see how they are labeled that way. It's like in the 1990s how anything that came out that wasn't pop was considered alternative.

I agree with what Corey said about the genre dying out. There are still some bands from that time that are still making music, Korn, Disturbed, PM5K, Limp Bizkit is back, Linkin Park, etc, but the genre itself is no longer a genre.
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« Reply #45 on: September 09, 2011, 06:08:34 AM »
Limp Bizkit is back,

YOU BET THEY ARE



POP OFF THE ROCK SHIP!!! POP! POP! POP! POP OFF THE ROCK SHIP!!!

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« Reply #47 on: September 09, 2011, 02:58:50 PM »
Is it just me or does it seem like Linkin Park is trying to disassociate itself from the nu-metal tag? I mean their music always sort of the tag but their sensibilities always more along the lines of like My Chemical Romance or some wimpy shit like that. And now they're KOAB's favorite band, for some reason.

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« Reply #48 on: September 09, 2011, 03:04:25 PM »
Is it just me or does it seem like Linkin Park is trying to disassociate itself from the nu-metal tag? I mean their music always sort of the tag but their sensibilities always more along the lines of like My Chemical Romance or some wimpy shit like that. And now they're KOAB's favorite band, for some reason.

they basically stopped being Nu-Metal like five years ago and became emo fags. Let's relive the good years




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« Reply #49 on: September 09, 2011, 08:25:33 PM »
I don't think Linkin Park even know what they're trying to sound like at the moment. I caught one of their newer videos (I assume) and it started off with about 30 seconds of rap, followed by this sloooow emo singing shit for the next 2 minutes or so. Sad part is last year I watched some of their Project Revolution tour on some channel we had a free preview of that shows concerts 24/7. When they played any of what im assuming is their recent material, the band looked dead inside, but when they busted out One Step Closer, Somewhere I Belong, or another old song, they all looked so happy and excited to be on stage. I know they're not everyones cup of tea, and even my musical tastes have moved on, but it was clear even they hate their sound at the moment.