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« Reply #50 on: September 10, 2011, 12:02:40 AM »


Godsmack is still kicking around, somehow.



Shame that Evanescence got so much airplay since Lacuna Coil was a better band than them.

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« Reply #51 on: September 10, 2011, 12:29:56 AM »
Shame that Evanescence got so much airplay since Lacuna Coil was a better band than them.

And a hotter lead singer to boot

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« Reply #52 on: September 10, 2011, 02:44:23 AM »
I remember I read a review of the second Evanescence album in the newspaper. The guy writing the review said how it was great that they were the first metal band with a female lead singer. I then e-mailed the reviewer and told him that if he was going to write statements like that, then he should actually do his job properly since Lacuna Coil, Nightwish, Otep and other bands were doing it first and better. I never got a reply.
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« Reply #53 on: September 10, 2011, 03:41:44 AM »
Static-X - Push It (Video)
This is a nu-metal song I can tolerate. It's mostly because of the video.

Here's the real Static X

Static-X - Cannibal [Live] (Video)

Some kid in high school who was gay and looked like a taller, gay bob_barron randomly shrieked how much he loved Static X to our english teacher which became a running gag for us.

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« Reply #54 on: September 10, 2011, 11:04:36 AM »
I remember I read a review of the second Evanescence album in the newspaper. The guy writing the review said how it was great that they were the first metal band with a female lead singer. I then e-mailed the reviewer and told him that if he was going to write statements like that, then he should actually do his job properly since Lacuna Coil, Nightwish, Otep and other bands were doing it first and better. I never got a reply.
Not to mention Warlock and the Plasmatics back in 1982...

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« Reply #55 on: December 03, 2011, 01:32:03 PM »
Bumped because I just found out Korn made a Dubstep album.


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« Reply #56 on: December 04, 2011, 12:45:25 PM »
Bumped because I just found out Korn made a Dubstep album.

I was able to get my hands on a copy of it. I've been a Korn fan since 1994. I have all their albums and like each one for different reasons. I was going to give this one a shot, but it's really not very good. I never really heard dubstep before, but what the hell is that stuff? Personally, I wouldn't be sad if they decided to hang it up now.
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« Reply #57 on: December 04, 2011, 05:14:54 PM »
Dubstep is Wub Wub Wub Wub man.

Wub Wub Wub.

Now you are Wub Wub Wub Dubstepping.

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« Reply #58 on: December 05, 2011, 03:52:32 AM »
The only Dubstep artist worth a damn is Burial.


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« Reply #60 on: December 09, 2011, 04:12:57 AM »
Well, I guess Obama won't be listening to Korn anymore.


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« Reply #61 on: December 11, 2011, 02:54:55 AM »
Damn, I thought all celebrities/recording artists were Obama fans?

I may have mentioned this before, but a couple weeks ago, HDnet was showing a rather unusual Korn concert. There was no crowd, it was the middle or the night, and they were playing in a corn field for a couple hours.

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« Reply #62 on: December 11, 2011, 05:38:26 AM »
They originally aired that last year. It was just an experiment for a live show they've wanted to do for a long time.
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« Reply #63 on: January 23, 2012, 03:03:46 AM »
Local rock station hyped a HUGE HUGE HUGE local concert announcement all weekend.  Ended up being Halestorm (This band SUCKS ASS), Staind (thought Aaron Lewis was a country singer now?) and Godsmack (play Awake and get the fuck off the stage!) in April.

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« Reply #64 on: January 23, 2012, 05:41:42 AM »
I'm half ashamed to say that "Awake" is a song I can actually listen to, primarily due to the little breakdown after the second chorus (the "TURN YOUR BACK" blah blah blah part).

I gave Kittie a listen recently. The stuff from the last 2-3 years is actually tolerable on the same level as Devildriver's "Clouds Over California" or Lamb of God's "11th Hour": a few decent riffs, maybe a solid chorus, but ultimately lame and contrived.

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« Reply #65 on: January 23, 2012, 05:54:10 AM »
I half-enjoy Awake purely for the main riff and opening drums. *DUM DUM DUMDUM...DUM DUM DUMDUMMMMMMMM....YEAH!!!!*

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« Reply #66 on: January 24, 2012, 03:24:12 PM »
Local rock station hyped a HUGE HUGE HUGE local concert announcement all weekend.  Ended up being Halestorm (This band SUCKS ASS), Staind (thought Aaron Lewis was a country singer now?) and Godsmack (play Awake and get the fuck off the stage!) in April.

A couple months ago I saw a billboard that Aaron Lewis was playing at a local casino.  That seemed sad enough, but especially when I had been there one night and the stage used for their advertised acts was just the little lounge stage on the middle of the casino floor.  I had been there one night when Blue Oyster Cult was doing a show, which was really sad seeing them shout about "THIS MAN PLAYED WITH RONNIE JAMES DIO" as a few drunks paid attention while some blue-haired made confused faces.

I kinda was tempted to go see Aaron Lewis and start shouting like Fred Durst during his songs much like his songs on the old Family Values tour CD.
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« Reply #67 on: January 25, 2012, 01:48:32 AM »
Local rock station hyped a HUGE HUGE HUGE local concert announcement all weekend.  Ended up being Halestorm (This band SUCKS ASS), Staind (thought Aaron Lewis was a country singer now?) and Godsmack (play Awake and get the fuck off the stage!) in April.

A couple months ago I saw a billboard that Aaron Lewis was playing at a local casino.  That seemed sad enough, but especially when I had been there one night and the stage used for their advertised acts was just the little lounge stage on the middle of the casino floor.  I had been there one night when Blue Oyster Cult was doing a show, which was really sad seeing them shout about "THIS MAN PLAYED WITH RONNIE JAMES DIO" as a few drunks paid attention while some blue-haired made confused faces.

I kinda was tempted to go see Aaron Lewis and start shouting like Fred Durst during his songs much like his songs on the old Family Values tour CD.

THIS IS THA REAL MUTHAFUCKIN' DEAL Y'ALL! 

In all honesty, the song isn't TERRIBLE.  It just didn't need Fred Durst looking bored out of his skull sitting next to Aaron Lewis yelling random bullshit during the interlude.


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« Reply #68 on: January 25, 2012, 03:10:17 AM »
Exactly.  That's what makes it hilarious.  He's singing this sad, personal song and douchey Fred Durst starts yelling PUT YO LIGHTERS IN THE AIR!  I've done that several times to people playing guitars at parties or whatever.  I really regret not seeing Lewis and shouting about Chocolate Starfishes and Mission Impossible II for his entire set.
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« Reply #69 on: April 14, 2012, 04:33:52 AM »
Well, my girlfriend and I ended up going to the opening night of the Mass Chaos Tour last night, headlined by Staind and Godsmack.  It was a fun evening.  The opening band was sommething called "Man Made Machine".  Much to my surprise, they were actually decent.  They only did 4 songs, but they were quite enjoyable.  About 15 minutes after they finished, Halestorm played for about 45 minutes.  To be fair, their female singer is a decent guitar player, but it seemed like she was trying way too hard to be like Lita Ford. She did the whole set in high heels which couldn't have been comfortable. 

Staind played for about 75 minutes or so, and I have to be honest, it was actually fantastic.  They had great stage presence and were full of energy.  The first song they played, which was one of the last I expected to hear, was "Raw" from the Dysfunction album.  They played 2 or 3 tracks from their new album which I actually enjoyed.  Aaron Lewis decided to pander to the southern crowd and sing his solo song "Country Boy" in the middle of the set, which gave me plenty of time to go take a piss.  Really though, it was a surprisingly good set, and I would go see Staind again. 

Godsmack went on last, opening with "Whatever".  It took Sully's voice and the rest of the band about 4 tracks to warm up, because they just sleepwalked through "Whatever", "Awake" (which pissed me off because this is what I was there to hear) and "Straight Out of Line".  The fourth song they played was "Speak" and this was when they finally seemed to get the kinks worked out and started sounding better overall.  A fun highlight of the show was Sully and the Drummer doing "Dueling Drums" for about 15 minutes.  They did this by driving another Drum/Bongo kit onto the stage.  They did a neat drumstick juggling thing occasionally which was a fun visual.  Godsmack closed their set with "Cryin' Like a Bitch" and "I Stand Alone".  Godsmack was acceptable overall once they started sounding right, and played for close to an hour and a half.

All in all, it was a fun evening and at a little over 5 hours, was quite a show.

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« Reply #70 on: June 20, 2012, 12:55:25 PM »
Well, I downloaded a leak of Linkin Park's new album, "Living Things" (because I refuse to spend money on their shit).  Some thoughts:

Linkin Park meets Dubstep.  This is....interesting.

Mike Shinoda - STOP TRYING TO FUCKING SING ON YOUR ALBUMS! Either rap (which I'll admit, he's not terrible at), or stay in the background and play guitar or piano, you monotone douche!

Why do all of their songs have to sound like they came out of one of the Transformers films now?

I guess I've been spoiled by too many long, epic concept albums from various Power Metal acts, but this thing's MAYBE 30 minutes total.

Again, there's a lot of dubstep here.  When the album is above mediocre, it's not bad and is actually acceptable (not good).  When it's bad (mainly when Mike Shinoda tries to sing), it's BAD.

I give it a 2/5

I don't know what the hell the frontman is doing.  I guess he's dancing or having a seizure, but here is their newest video:


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« Reply #71 on: June 20, 2012, 01:46:09 PM »
I...don't hate this. I haven't hated Linkin Park since the second album, actually. They're a decent pop act with a few fun tunes.

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« Reply #72 on: June 20, 2012, 04:40:18 PM »
I recognize Burn It Down as the song on Inside the NBA on TNT this year.

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« Reply #73 on: June 21, 2012, 01:11:31 AM »
I had my moment where I didn't like Linkin Park, but I admit to listening to Hybrid Theory a lot when it first came out.  But yeah, I just enjoy them.

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« Reply #74 on: June 21, 2012, 03:45:43 AM »
I...don't hate this. I haven't hated Linkin Park since the second album, actually. They're a decent pop act with a few fun tunes.

I'll admit to enjoying "What I've Done" and "Given Up" from Minutes to Midnight, and the other song they did for the 2nd Transformers film.  All three were fun songs, but I just don't really care much for the rest of their current material.  "Catalyst", "Shadow of the Day" and "The Little Things You Give Away" just bore me. 

"Burn it Down" is quite nice from their new album.  If you want to get a good idea of what they did with the whole dubstep thing, listen to:

"Lies, Green and Misery"


and "Lost in the Echo"


I had my moment where I didn't like Linkin Park, but I admit to listening to Hybrid Theory a lot when it first came out.  But yeah, I just enjoy them.

I'm not ashamed to admit Hybrid Theory is probably in my top 5 favorite albums of all time.

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« Reply #75 on: June 21, 2012, 03:56:10 AM »
The song from the second Transformers is "New Divide." It uses the same riff as Offspring's "Gone Away" when it's not doing the basic LP stuff. The video is pretty cool, too, with its purposeful use of editing to make it seem like it's a glitching video streamed online.

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« Reply #76 on: June 21, 2012, 04:08:28 AM »
The song from the second Transformers is "New Divide." It uses the same riff as Offspring's "Gone Away" when it's not doing the basic LP stuff. The video is pretty cool, too, with its purposeful use of editing to make it seem like it's a glitching video streamed online.

New Divide! Couldn't think of the title for the life of me.  Thanks to you, I'll never be able to not hear "Gone Away" when I listen to it ever again!

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« Reply #77 on: June 21, 2012, 06:35:56 AM »
Should we include Volbeat in this thread? I mean they are the current "metal" band of the month so far. God damn radio station plays the consistently.

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« Reply #78 on: June 21, 2012, 10:29:26 AM »
Should we include Volbeat in this thread? I mean they are the current "metal" band of the month so far. God damn radio station plays the consistently.

Did they do that shitty "Lets Get Ready to Rumble" song?

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« Reply #79 on: June 21, 2012, 10:53:32 AM »
Yep. Sounds fitting for this thread.

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« Reply #80 on: June 21, 2012, 10:56:51 AM »
The closest thing to Nu Metal that I like is Deftones, and that barely even counts as Nu Metal anymore. "White Pony" was such a great career move.


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« Reply #81 on: July 06, 2012, 12:30:21 AM »
"New Divide" sounds so much like "We Are One" that someone made a mashup of the two:


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« Reply #82 on: July 15, 2012, 06:04:27 AM »
i figured this is better than any other place to post this: Morbid Angel weren't the only respected Death Metal band to go the Nu-Metal route. Back in 2000, we got this from Sadist







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« Reply #84 on: February 13, 2013, 03:10:34 PM »
AXS is showing a Papa Roach / Stone Sour show.  Two bands I wouldn't have pictured touring together.  Papa Roach is playing the old RAW theme now.  Never in a million years would I think it could actually sound worse.

"ARE YOU MOTHERFUCKERS READY TO TAKE THIS SHIT TO THE NEXT LEVEL?!?!?!"

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« Reply #86 on: August 07, 2013, 06:29:15 AM »

"ARE YOU MOTHERFUCKERS READY TO TAKE THIS SHIT TO THE NEXT LEVEL?!?!?!"

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legit lol.


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« Reply #88 on: October 24, 2013, 06:15:56 AM »
Out of sheer curiosity,  I downloaded Korn's new album. Never Never is far and away the weakest track, but to my amazement,  the rest of the album is actually pretty solid.

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« Reply #89 on: October 24, 2013, 11:11:11 AM »
I've listened to it a few times over the last few weeks and I agree. It's a pretty good album. Much harder than they've been in a while. Almost a mix between Follow the Leader and their self titled. It'll be in regular rotation for a while.
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« Reply #90 on: December 13, 2013, 02:02:09 AM »
The "stupid bullshit" thread made me bump this. I think more needs to be said about my teenage nu-metal days:



Kittie, when you think about it, were unique for their time. Sure there female metal bands before and after, but the fact that when this album came out, they were a couple of teenage Canadians, made them stand out from the pack and that certainly helped them for awhile. 14-year-old me was ALL OVER THIS ALBUM. All over it. Kittie was probably in my top 5 from 2000-2002. I completely forgot them until this past summer when I was packing my old CD's to take to my new apartment and I decided to see if "Spit" was worth taking so I listened to it from start to finish. It's terrible. Awful lyrics with crappy nu-metal riffs. I think I read an interview a few years ago where the lead chick admitted that the album was crappy and her excuse was "lol, we were kids!'.



Embarrassingly, I didn't know this was a cover until I started college. When I was a young teen all I  cared about was 'OMFG OZZY OSBOURNE???????". "Chamber Music" is a pretty terrible album with maybe three decent tracks. I also had a thing for the female bassist.



Another band I haven't thought of in ages. My friend burned me this album back in high school and I actually dug it back then. The album's highlight was its closing track where they pay tribute to a bunch of hip-hop songs from the 90's.

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« Reply #91 on: December 14, 2013, 07:21:11 AM »
What's funny about bands like Kittie and Coal Chamber is that they were big at the time, but they never became huge. In fact, with a few exceptions, I don't think most of these bands really became huge. Like sure, Korn, Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park and a few others were huge, but a lot of them just felt like they were kinda there or toiled away in some sort of obscurity.

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Anyways, are there any nu-metal bands considered good even now, or is the genre just one big fail from start to finish?
It's basically died off because there never was a true definition of what "nu-metal" entailed. At first it was just heavier alternative rock, like Helmet, and then it was any band that blended rap with rock, like {insert every rap/rock band}, but then kinda formed into overly melodic grunge-inspired drivel that used the break-beat as a backing structure, like Disturbed. Stuff like thrash, death, black, doom, etc. has lasted because there's pretty clear definitions of what they entail as a whole, despite the bands that push the envelope within those sub-genres, but nu-metal never had that. It was, basically, a catch-all term for any popular heavier-than-NSync music released between 1997 and 2003.

A friend (well, person I converse with frequently via the Internet, who used to write for 411) and I did a co-op article for a site he wrote for that tried to dissect the rise and fall of nu-metal as well as why it was a horrible "genre" that was never going to last beyond a few years. If I can find it I'll edit this and link it, but I think the site it was for is now gone.
The other thing that killed it is the same thing that killed hair metal: After a while, there ended up being too many Nu Metal bands. By 2001, you couldn't turn on the radio without hearing it all the time or step into a CD section of a store without seeing at least 5 or 6 Nu Metal bands in the new albums section. It became overkill, and by the time the year was almost over, more and more people were sick of it. 2002 was it's dying breaths, and 2003 was when it ended.

Another factor is the simple fact that most of the people that were listening to it grew up. Something like (hed) PE or Dope (who I think were in some ways worse than Limp Bizkit) might appeal to you when you are 14 or 15, but when your 17-18 years old you realize that it's just the same manufactured rebellion that's been around forever. In December of my senior year of High School, most of the people I knew that previously liked Nu Metal wanted nothing to do with it. Now it's that kind of thing that you look back at and say "Well, I was a teenager"


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« Reply #92 on: December 15, 2013, 09:58:35 AM »
Dope's popularity, though, fell because of how different the second album was to the first. Here's the two more known tracks off of the first album, Felons and Revolutionaries:



And here's the lead single off of their second album:


Even as a confused and angry 14-year-old whose taste for death metal was on the rise, I still really dug Dope's first album, and still listen to it now and then. I have no problem saying "Debonaire" is a good mainstream rock song, despite it being a mash-up of Marilyn Manson and White Zombie in sound (hell, that applies to the whole band, really, only with generically horrible gangsta lyrics thrown in), and I can still dig on it thanks to the decency of that main riff. "Now or Never," though, was so much poppier than anything found on the first, both in terms of lyrical content and production, not to mention that the singer (Edsel Dope) decided to actually kinda/sorta sing...yeah, it was a big difference, even if listening back they're obviously from the same band.

That switch is also, IMO, what killed Sevendust and Static-X. They went from having some killer riffs and even borderline on legitimate metal at times (particularly Static-X, who were basically White Zombie/Ministry Lite)...but then they went with shyte nu-metal ballad-y songs.

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« Reply #93 on: December 15, 2013, 10:33:23 AM »
In the risk of ridicule, I will admit that the first Sevendust album is one of my guiltiest pleasures. I know it's not very good, but unlike a lot of these bands, it at least tried to sound like an actual metal album (Hell, I'd argue that a lot of it feels more like a Groove Metal album than a Nu Metal one). I remember when there third album came out, and me an a friend were listening to it. He liked it. I just thought "Oh wow, so they wanna be Staind now"

Re: Static X: I think they are terrible, but I agree that they were pretty much Ministry/White Zombie lite (though sorta in their defense, Ministry were pretty awful around that time)


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Re: The LOL At Nu-Metal thread
« Reply #94 on: December 15, 2013, 11:05:24 AM »
I still say Sevendust live is one of the best shows I've ever seen.

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Re: The LOL At Nu-Metal thread
« Reply #95 on: December 15, 2013, 01:21:52 PM »
Sevendust is fucking awesome. 

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Re: The LOL At Nu-Metal thread
« Reply #96 on: December 16, 2013, 04:47:15 AM »
Let's talk about metal bands or artists that went nu metal in a desperate attempt to gain more fans:

Max Cavalera started off in Sepultura, a very good and reputable tribal/groove/death metal outfit. He quit in the 90's and formed a new band, Soulfly. This is the opening track off their second album released 2000 during the nu metal boom:



Machine Head probably had one of the best debut albums of any metal band ever with "Burn My Eyes". This was their 1999 effort. The thrash sound and growling was removed in favor or rapping and detuned guitars.



And yes, I owned both these albums, thank you very much.

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Re: The LOL At Nu-Metal thread
« Reply #97 on: December 16, 2013, 06:44:26 AM »
In the risk of ridicule, I will admit that the first Sevendust album is one of my guiltiest pleasures. I know it's not very good, but unlike a lot of these bands, it at least tried to sound like an actual metal album (Hell, I'd argue that a lot of it feels more like a Groove Metal album than a Nu Metal one). I remember when there third album came out, and me an a friend were listening to it. He liked it. I just thought "Oh wow, so they wanna be Staind now"

I think Lajon Witherspoon legit has a great voice, and it's sad that it's wasted on such a meh band. Their first two albums are some of the more tolerable nu-metal records.

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Re: The LOL At Nu-Metal thread
« Reply #98 on: December 16, 2013, 07:26:17 AM »
Re: "The Burning Red" and Soulfly: Machine Head did another Nu Metal album in "Supercharger" After that they kinda came to their senses.



Soulfly-Well, they've never been good. Sure, "Dark Ages" and "Enslaved" have their moments, but most of it is generic Groove/Post Thrash/Nu Metal. Interestingly enough, Sepultura have also sucked since Max left.

I kind of look at this as an interesting/somewhat unfortunate trend in the 90's in which a lot of bands were trying to get with the times, and ended up embarrassing themselves. Sure, "The Black Album" is a fun an acceptable mainstream metal album for the large part, but it's still an undeniably dumbed down version of what Metallica once was, and "Load", "Reload" and the first disc of "Garage Days Revisited" didn't help (remember Metallica butchering Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds? I hope not.) Another example would be Anthrax. Sure, "Sound of White Noise" is an enjoyable album (probably my third fave album of theirs), but "Stomp 442" is mostly dull, and by "Vol. 8: The Threat is Real" they don't seem to know what kind of band they are anymore (plus, it sees them kinda dipping their toes into Nu-Metal) There was some great stuff in the 90's, but the bad really sticks out.



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Re: The LOL At Nu-Metal thread
« Reply #99 on: December 16, 2013, 07:39:24 AM »
Even Slayer is sort of guilty of this. Sure, "Diabolus in Musica" isn't a straight nu-metal record but you can certainly tell they were trying to get fans of that market into their music. Ironically enough, that's a lot of my friends' favorite Slayer album. Go figure.