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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #50 on: December 06, 2011, 02:25:10 AM »
I feel like they are trying to cut Ryder off at the knees. The booking for him last night was terrible.


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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #51 on: December 06, 2011, 02:49:28 AM »
Ryder did get over w/o permission

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #52 on: December 06, 2011, 03:00:25 AM »
It's ok because Dolph Ziggler was on the show earlier.

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #53 on: December 06, 2011, 03:09:25 AM »
Can someone post the latest It Begins vid?

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #54 on: December 06, 2011, 04:05:08 AM »


I think it's sounding more and more like Jericho.

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #55 on: December 06, 2011, 04:06:41 AM »
me too

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #56 on: December 06, 2011, 05:10:29 AM »
It's ok because Dolph Ziggler was on the show earlier.

Nah, they should have booked Ryder better and not used him as a means to get the crowd to stop booing Cena.

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #57 on: December 06, 2011, 09:37:13 AM »
Yeah, I felt they were trying to fuck up Ryder's overness bigtime last night. It pissed me off and I am not even a Ryder fan. Lets see....

-Have him involved in something like 4 segments in a row or very close to in a row. Overkill bigtime.

-Have in there with the other guy who even though they are teasing this heel thing with him (poorly), he's still the guy who really is the last one that should be put in there with Ryder - as it went, people seemingly didnt know who to cheer, and really didnt seem to care either. Ultimately, I think it hurt both of them to be working a match against each other as the reactions for both became half-ass at best in this one. We also dont need to be reminded how Ryder isnt main event material by Cena going over.

-Same deal with Henry/Ryder. Henry totally squashes him, then Cena does the run-in, cheating for Ryder. How does that help Ryder one fucking bit? In addition, they really just continued the same path as they always have.....Cena has to always be the guy that really goes over anyone and everyone in this company no matter what the backlash is. They've protected Henry for months and there was none of that here.

-Then Ryder comes out during the Ziggler match, a role usually made for heels, to help distract him, and then beyond that beats him down after the match, once again a role made typically for heels....apparently to get the heat, but I felt like it went the opposite way really when all was said and done. It really was just a fucking stupid idea to try to get Cena regaining face heat I guess.

Otherwise, the show was a total wash besides the Ryder stuff. Both the opening promo and last segment promo war was incredibly cliche and boring.....the exact same shit that Punk was talking about in his very limited role on this show. And we can't even blame Vince for this one apparently as HHH was putting the show together.

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #58 on: December 06, 2011, 09:52:41 AM »
Well to be fair, if you watch Z! True Long Island Stories, Ziggler broke into Ryder's apartment and hit him with the belt. But why would they ever mention that?

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #59 on: December 06, 2011, 10:37:11 AM »
Cena still doesn't have a feud heading into the pay-per-view. Weird.

They should have Cena be Brodus Clay's opponent in a PPV debut.

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #60 on: December 06, 2011, 10:51:58 AM »
I don't understand Zack Ryder. He's corny as fuck and not really that interesting.

People should be ironically championing Mr. Perfect 2011 Dolph Ziggler.

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #61 on: December 06, 2011, 02:38:24 PM »
No irony necessary

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #62 on: December 06, 2011, 02:51:22 PM »
lol rating was a 2.9. Zack Ryder is poison.

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #63 on: December 06, 2011, 02:52:19 PM »
F4W says it was a 3.0

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #64 on: December 06, 2011, 03:09:24 PM »
That's not a whole lot better!

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #65 on: December 06, 2011, 11:54:47 PM »
3>2!

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Re: 12/5/11 RAW: DIESEL Power
« Reply #66 on: December 07, 2011, 03:35:42 AM »
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Vince McMahon was not at Raw [Monday] night. They said he was in Afghanistan getting footage for Tribute to the Troops, which airs next Tuesday. HHH was in charge of the show with him gone. I guess that's why he was unable to come out and save poor Santino from Kevin Nash.