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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #50 on: December 21, 2011, 08:47:28 AM »

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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #51 on: December 21, 2011, 10:02:25 AM »


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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #52 on: December 21, 2011, 10:11:05 AM »
That was one of my all-time markout moments.  I was a big fan of Jeff Jarrett at the time and absolutely hated Razor Ramon.

I was the exact opposite. Although I was 9 at the time of the that match.

Jarrett was pretty good in New Generation WWF, just that gimmick was the drizzling shits.

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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #53 on: December 21, 2011, 12:50:03 PM »
Maybe the real deep state was the friends we made along the way.

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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #54 on: December 21, 2011, 01:30:04 PM »


Damn he aged pretty badly.

Given that he's somehow still alive, I'd say he's doing pretty well for himself

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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #55 on: December 21, 2011, 01:44:08 PM »
On another forum someone speculated that Raven was behind the little boy 1/2/12 promos on RAW. After seeing that pic.....how awesome would that be?

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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #56 on: December 21, 2011, 09:57:41 PM »
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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #57 on: December 22, 2011, 08:15:26 AM »
Yokozuna destroying the Gunns, and Owen making sure to get the pin is great. Owen's celebration also rules

I remember being at home sick from school the day after WrestleMania. My brother came home and told me that Yokozuna was back, had a beard, and won the tag team belts with Owen.

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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #58 on: December 22, 2011, 08:44:16 AM »
Yeah, I remember being surprised at the Yokozuna pick.  Of course, I'd only been into wrestling for a month, so I don't really think I had any preconceived notions of who I felt the mystery partner might be.  Just the idea of a "mystery" was enough to interest me!

One of my biggest mark out moments of 1995, though, was the Smoking Gunns regaining the titles from Owen and Yoko in September, the night after In Your House 3.  The WWF played that match really well IIRC because they promised a rematch between Diesel & Michaels with Owen and Yoko at a future date and then the Gunns suddenly won the titles in a match ordered by Gorilla Monsoon.  It was a great surprise, since I thought the only team that could stop Owen and Yoko were the Allied Powers (and they choked away their shot at IYH 2).

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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #59 on: December 22, 2011, 10:45:26 AM »
In Your House 2 was the first ppv my brothers and I ever ordered. Needless to say the tape of it got some serious replay. Jarrett/HBK was a great IC title match; and as a mark who loved Diesel, the lumberjack match with Sid was awesome. I had never seen a lumber jack match before that.

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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #60 on: December 22, 2011, 11:56:33 AM »
In Your House 2 was the first ppv my brothers and I ever ordered. Needless to say the tape of it got some serious replay. Jarrett/HBK was a great IC title match; and as a mark who loved Diesel, the lumberjack match with Sid was awesome. I had never seen a lumber jack match before that.

Same with me.  I didn't care who the lumberjacks were.  Just the idea of having guys around the ring ready to beat up whoever fell outside was enough to get excited about the match.

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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #61 on: December 22, 2011, 12:22:20 PM »
Jarrett/Michaels was my WWF MOTY.

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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #62 on: December 22, 2011, 12:29:09 PM »
Being that it was close to my birthday, SummerSlam '95 was the first PPV that I ordered.

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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #65 on: December 23, 2011, 12:00:26 AM »



How AWESOME would it have been for WWF to reunite the Skyscrapers except with Spivey playing his Waylon Mercy character? Mercy talking about them being "peaceful men" while Sid freaks out in the background.

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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #66 on: December 23, 2011, 03:28:03 AM »
I'll never not praise the Waylon Mercy character. One of the most underrated gimmicks of all time. A man who thinks and acts like a face outside the ring then snaps and heels it up when he's immediately inside it. Spivey's age and pre-existing injuries were starting to catch up to him at this point, though. Shame.

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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #67 on: December 23, 2011, 04:01:06 AM »
Yeah, Waylon Mercy was a great gimmick. Him murdering people then shaking their hands was great.

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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #68 on: December 23, 2011, 04:24:05 AM »
The only bad thing about the gimmick was the Spivey was too broken down at that point to have a wrestling match worth watching.  I think Bret Hart even had a hard time getting a good match out of him on Superstars.  One of my favorite Waylon Mercy moments is when he fought Doink on Raw and the crowd worked up a really loud "KILL THE CLOWN!" chant for the finish.

I'm glad someone posted the Barry Horowitz-Skip match.  I don't know how we have all forgotten about the epic Horowitz push in the summer and fall of 1995.  It always angered me how the Underdogs-Bodydonna Survivor Series match got hijacked so the 1-2-3 Kid could be pushed.

Plus, 1995 gave us the debut of Sunny.

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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #69 on: December 23, 2011, 04:27:51 AM »
I'm a big fan of the 1995 Survivor Series too.

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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #70 on: December 23, 2011, 04:40:02 AM »
Yeah, the opener is one of the more underrated Survivor Series matches and the women's match is great.  The Wild Card match is probably my favorite Survivor Series elimination match of all time (with that gem of a moment where Michaels Sweet Chin Music's Sid and just shrugs his shoulders with a big smile on his face) and Bret-Diesel speaks for itself.  That year's Survivor Series was the best pay-per-view the WWF had put out in a long time.

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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #71 on: December 23, 2011, 04:45:42 AM »
I loved Survivor Series 1995 as well.  The Wild Card match is not quite my favourite Survivor Series Elimination match (that would be Team Demolition vs. Team Powers of Pain), but it is my favourite one of the 1990s.

Waylon Mercy was a great gimmick, but I'm not sure it would have lasted long even if Spivey was healthier.  Would Vince have understood it?  Remember this is the same guy who killed Paul Burchill's pirate gimmick even though it was getting over.

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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #73 on: December 23, 2011, 04:47:34 AM »
Bret and Diesel had some incredible chemistry together.  And, in my opinion, the Survivor Series table bump is one of the more important spots in wrestling history.  Of course it was ripping off ECW, and WWF had done a couple table spots in the past (Race-Hogan on SNME, Earthquake-Hogan at Summerslam), but that was a pretty big moment for mainstream wrestling and led to some great stuff in the years since.

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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #75 on: December 23, 2011, 04:53:26 AM »
Ah yes, the terrible 1995 tag team tournament when the 1-2-3 Kid and Bob Holly faced no one of merit until the finals and Tatanka and Bigelow had to scrape and claw their way there.  And then they render the whole tournament meaningless by having the Gunns beat the winners the next night on Raw.

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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #76 on: December 23, 2011, 04:54:54 AM »
Late 1995 is interesting because they seemed like they were right about to turn the promotion around only to take a giant step backwards in early 1996.  The WWF was awful in the summer of 1996 aside from Michaels in the main event.  Austin had his star making moment at King of the Ring and then did nothing for months and the roster was really thin by this point with Hall & Nash going to WCW and Bret Hart taking the summer off.  A year later in the fall of 1996 they actually started turning things around for real.

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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #77 on: December 23, 2011, 04:57:25 AM »
Ah yes, the terrible 1995 tag team tournament when the 1-2-3 Kid and Bob Holly faced no one of merit until the finals and Tatanka and Bigelow had to scrape and claw their way there.  And then they render the whole tournament meaningless by having the Gunns beat the winners the next night on Raw.


I liked the Heavenly Bodies, but the WWF never got behind them for whatever reason.

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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #78 on: December 23, 2011, 05:01:43 AM »
Yeah the Heavenly Bodies were a fun team, the lariating your own partner into a DDT spot was a neat spot.

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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #79 on: December 23, 2011, 05:19:28 AM »

Waylon Mercy was such a great heel character.


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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #80 on: December 23, 2011, 05:28:27 AM »
Yeah the Heavenly Bodies were a fun team, the lariating your own partner into a DDT spot was a neat spot.

The Heavenly Bodies were criminally misused by the WWF.  I'm not sure if it was one of those cases where they weren't guys the WWF had built up, so the company just viewed them as independent talent, but the Bodies could've easily been plugged into the role the Bodydonnas received in early 1996.  Hell, the use of ANY teams in 1996, including the terrible Tekno Team 2000, would've been a breath of fresh air than what the tag team division turned into in 1996.  If I was booking, the New Rockers would've been faces and the Godwinns would've been heels.  Leif Cassidy was busting out some unique offense that would've got the crowd to buy into him eventually and who in the hell wants to boo Marty Jannetty?

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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #81 on: December 23, 2011, 05:33:19 AM »
I'm not sure if anyone else was watching the USWA during this period, but 1995 was the last decent year for the promotion.  Billy Jack Haynes came down and raised hell for a while, the Smokey Mountain-USWA feud provided some nice programming during the summer and the fall, and there was an interesting feud going on between Tommy Rich & Doug Gilbert and PG-13.  The company also benefited from working relationships with the WWF and WCW, so you had a unique "dual developmental" deal going on at the time.  The big problem, though, was that Jerry Lawler kept hogging the Unified title spotlight and wouldn't let anyone else have an extended run with that title.

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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #83 on: December 23, 2011, 05:51:10 AM »
Yeah the Heavenly Bodies were a fun team, the lariating your own partner into a DDT spot was a neat spot.

The Heavenly Bodies were criminally misused by the WWF.  I'm not sure if it was one of those cases where they weren't guys the WWF had built up, so the company just viewed them as independent talent, but the Bodies could've easily been plugged into the role the Bodydonnas received in early 1996.  Hell, the use of ANY teams in 1996, including the terrible Tekno Team 2000, would've been a breath of fresh air than what the tag team division turned into in 1996.  If I was booking, the New Rockers would've been faces and the Godwinns would've been heels.  Leif Cassidy was busting out some unique offense that would've got the crowd to buy into him eventually and who in the hell wants to boo Marty Jannetty?

Remember WWF turned down signing Public Enemy - after a try out vs Smoking Gunns  at Survivor Series(?)

WWF also gave Beniot 3 try outs and didn't sign him either

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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #84 on: December 23, 2011, 07:10:58 AM »


I feuded w/ Mr Backlund? 

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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #86 on: December 23, 2011, 08:56:51 AM »
I own most of these...the pages in the women in wrestling issue are all stuck together though.

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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #87 on: December 23, 2011, 04:40:42 PM »


A great tag match that very few remember from this era.

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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #88 on: December 23, 2011, 07:31:27 PM »
Pretty sure part of Benoit not getting a WWF job was that he wanted to be able to continue working NJPW tours and Vince wasn't ok with that. That might have been at a different point though.

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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #89 on: December 23, 2011, 09:25:33 PM »
Yeah the Heavenly Bodies were a fun team, the lariating your own partner into a DDT spot was a neat spot.

The Heavenly Bodies were criminally misused by the WWF.  I'm not sure if it was one of those cases where they weren't guys the WWF had built up, so the company just viewed them as independent talent, but the Bodies could've easily been plugged into the role the Bodydonnas received in early 1996.  Hell, the use of ANY teams in 1996, including the terrible Tekno Team 2000, would've been a breath of fresh air than what the tag team division turned into in 1996.  If I was booking, the New Rockers would've been faces and the Godwinns would've been heels.  Leif Cassidy was busting out some unique offense that would've got the crowd to buy into him eventually and who in the hell wants to boo Marty Jannetty?
1/2 of the Bodydonnas were the Heavenly Bodies. It's interesting. I think most would rate the Heavenly Bodies above the Bodydonnas. But very few people would rate Jimmy Del Ray over Chris Candido.

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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #90 on: December 23, 2011, 09:30:46 PM »
Had the Body Donnas worked the Steiners, the RnR Express etc vs The Godwins and The Smoking Gunns they'd probably would be remembered for better matches too

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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #91 on: December 23, 2011, 10:48:06 PM »
The Bodies were jobbing to the Bushwhackers by the time their run in the WWF came to an end.  That's pretty bad!


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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #92 on: December 24, 2011, 01:14:25 AM »
Yeah the Heavenly Bodies were a fun team, the lariating your own partner into a DDT spot was a neat spot.

The Heavenly Bodies were criminally misused by the WWF.  I'm not sure if it was one of those cases where they weren't guys the WWF had built up, so the company just viewed them as independent talent, but the Bodies could've easily been plugged into the role the Bodydonnas received in early 1996.  Hell, the use of ANY teams in 1996, including the terrible Tekno Team 2000, would've been a breath of fresh air than what the tag team division turned into in 1996.  If I was booking, the New Rockers would've been faces and the Godwinns would've been heels.  Leif Cassidy was busting out some unique offense that would've got the crowd to buy into him eventually and who in the hell wants to boo Marty Jannetty?
1/2 of the Bodydonnas were the Heavenly Bodies. It's interesting. I think most would rate the Heavenly Bodies above the Bodydonnas. But very few people would rate Jimmy Del Ray over Chris Candido.

They turned him into a goofy idiot though.  I think the gimmick was a large part of the problem.

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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #93 on: December 24, 2011, 04:43:35 AM »
Well the problem with the Bodydonnas is that the #1 figure on the team was Sunny.  When she left all of their heat went out the door.

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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #94 on: December 24, 2011, 07:30:35 AM »


I watched the finish to this so many times.

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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #95 on: December 24, 2011, 07:40:21 AM »
I'm really surprised that the Kid took that bump considering how he just came back from neck surgery.

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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #97 on: December 24, 2011, 09:30:18 AM »
I'm really surprised they didn't just do the Bret-Owen blowoff at WrestleMania instead of on Raw.  However, I like how they made an entire Raw special about it and it was the only match on the card that night (IIRC).

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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #98 on: December 24, 2011, 09:37:01 AM »
The match was actually pretty short and most of the show was hype for WrestleMania.  It was a good match, but not anywhere close to WM X or the Summerslam cage match.

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Re: 1995: The Year in Wrestling
« Reply #99 on: December 24, 2011, 09:38:44 AM »
I'm really surprised they didn't just do the Bret-Owen blowoff at WrestleMania instead of on Raw.  However, I like how they made an entire Raw special about it and it was the only match on the card that night (IIRC).

I feel the Owen/Bret feud ended in earnest at SummerSlam 94 and everything afterwards was leading back to a reunion. If that makes sense.