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2012 free agent class/movement chart

(P) = player option
(T) = team option
(ETO) = early termination option


Atlanta
Restricted: none
Unrestricted: Erick Dampier, Tracy McGrady, Jannero Pargo
Rookies: John Jenkins (23), Mike Scott (43)
Re-signed: Ivan Johnson
Added: Devin Harris (trade w/Utah), Kyle Korver (trade w/Chicago), Anthony Morrow (trade w/Brooklyn), Johan Petro (trade w/Brooklyn), DeShawn Stevenson (trade w/Brooklyn), Anthony Tolliver (Minnesota), Jordan Williams (trade w/Brooklyn), Louis Williams (Philadelphia)
Lost: Jason Collins (Boston), Willie Green (traded to LA Clippers), Kirk Hinrich (Chicago), Joe Johnson (traded to Brooklyn), Vladmir Radmanovic (Chicago), Jerry Stackhouse (Brooklyn), Marvin Williams (traded to Utah)

Boston
Restricted: none
Unrestricted: Mickael Pietrus
Rookies: Jared Sullinger (21), Fab Melo (22), Kris Joseph (51), Dionte Christmas
Re-signed: Brandon Bass, Keyon Dooling, Kevin Garnett, Jeff Green
Added: Jason Collins (Atlanta), Courtney Lee (trade w/Houston), Darko Milicic (Minnesota), Jason Terry (Dallas), Chris Wilcox
Lost: Ray Allen (Miami), Marquis Daniels (Milwaukee), Keyon Dooling, Ryan Hollins (LA Clippers), JaJuan Johnson (traded to Houston), E'Twaun Moore (traded to Houston), Sasha Pavlovic (traded to Portland), Greg Stiemsma (Minnesota), Sean Williams (traded to Houston)

Brooklyn
Restricted: none
Unrestricted: Damion James, Armon Johnson
Rookies: Tyshawn Taylor (41), Tornike Shengelia (54), Ilkan Karaman (57)
Re-signed: Kris Humphries, Brook Lopez, Gerald Wallace, Deron Williams
Added: Andray Blatche (Washington), Keith Bogans, Josh Childress (Phoenix), Reggie Evans (trade w/LA Clippers), Donte Greene (Sacramento), Joe Johnson (trade w/Atlanta), Jerry Stackhouse (Atlanta), C.J. Watson (Chicago)
Lost: Jordan Farmar (traded to Atlanta), Sundiata Gaines (Indiana), Gerald Green (Indiana), Anthony Morrow (traded to Atlanta), Johan Petro (traded to Atlanta), DeShawn Stevenson (traded to Atlanta), Jordan Williams (traded to Atlanta), Sheldon Williams (Elan Chalon, France)

Charlotte
Restricted: none
Unrestricted: Derrick Brown, Cory Higgins
Rookies: Michael Kidd-Gilchrist (2), Jeffery Taylor (31)
Re-signed:
Added: Ben Gordon (trade w/Detroit), Brendan Haywood (Dallas), Ramon Sessions (LA Lakers)
Lost: D.J. Augustin (Indiana), Corey Maggette (traded to Detroit), Jamario Moon, Eduardo Najera, D.J. White (Shanghai Sharks, China)

Chicago
Restricted: none
Unrestricted: Mike James
Rookies: Marquis Teague (29)
Re-signed: none
Added: Marco Bellinelli (New Orleans), Kyrylo Fesenko (Indiana), Kirk Hinrich (Atlanta), Nazr Mohammed (Oklahoma City), Vladmir Radmanovic (Atlanta), Nate Robinson (Golden State)
Lost: Omer Asik (Houston), Ronnie Brewer (New York), Kyle Korver (traded to Atlanta), John Lucas III (Toronto), Brian Scalabrine, C.J. Watson (Brooklyn)

Cleveland
Restricted: none
Unrestricted: none
Rookies: Dion Waters (4), Tyler Zeller (17), Micheal Erics
Re-signed: Alonzo Gee, Luke Harangody
Added: Kelenna Azubuike (trade w/Dallas), Jon Leuer (Milwaukee), , C.J. Miles (Utah), Jeremy Pargo (trade w/Memphis)
Lost: Semih Erden (Anadolu Efes, Turkey), Manny Harris, Antawn Jamison (LA Lakers), D.J. Kennedy (traded to Memphis), Anthony Parker

Dallas
Restricted: none
Unrestricted: Brian Cardinal
Rookies: Jared Cunningham (24), Bernard James (33), Jae Crowder (34)
Re-signed: Delonte West
Added: Elton Brand (Philadelphia), Darren Collison (trade w/Indiana), Dahntay Jones (trade w/Indiana), Chris Kaman (New Orleans), O.J. Mayo (Memphis)
Lost: Kelenna Azubuike (traded to Cleveland), Brendan Haywood (Charlotte), Yi Jianlian (Guangdong Tigers, China), Jason Kidd (New York), Ian Mahinmi (traded to Indiana), Jason Terry (Boston)

Denver
Restricted: none
Unrestricted: none
Rookies: Evan Fournier (20), Quincy Miller (38), Izzet Turkyilmaz (50)
Re-signed: JaVale McGee, Andre Miller
Added: Andre Iguodala (trade w/Philadelphia), Anthony Randolph (Minnesota)
Lost: Aaron Afflalo (traded to Orlando), Chris Andersen, Rudy Fernandez (Real Madrid, Spain), Al Harrington (traded to Orlando)

Detroit
Restricted: none
Unrestricted: Walker Russell, Ben Wallace, Damien Wilkins
Rookies: Andre Drummond (9), Khris Middleton (39), Kim English (44)
Re-signed:
Added: Jonny Flynn (Portland), Vyacheslav Kravtsov (BC Kyiv, Ukraine), Corey Maggette (trade w/Charlotte), Terrence Williams (Sacramento)
Lost: Ben Gordon (traded to Charlotte), Vernon Macklin (Gaziantep, Turkey)

Golden State
Restricted: none
Unrestricted: Mikki Moore
Rookies: Harrison Barnes (7), Festus Ezeli (30), Draymond Green (35), Ognjen Kuzmic (52), Kent Bazemore
Re-signed: Brandon Rush
Added: Jarrett Jack (trade w/New Orleans), Carl Landry (New Orleans)
Lost: Mickell Gladness (Miami), Dominic McGuire (Toronto), Nate Robinson (Chicago), Chris Wright (Toronto), Dorell Wright (traded to Philadelphia)

Houston
Restricted: none
Unrestricted: Earl Boykins
Rookies: Jeremy Lamb (12), Royce White (16), Terrence Jones (18), Furkan Aldemir (53), Donatas Motiejunas
Re-signed:
Added: Omer Asik (Chicago), Jon Brockman (trade w/Milwaukee), Carlos Delfino (Milwaukee), Toney Douglas (trade w/New York), Gary Forbes (trade w/Toronto), JaJuan Johnson (trade w/Boston), Jeremy Lin (New York), Shaun Livingston (trade w/Milwaukee)
Lost: Chase Budinger (traded to Minnesota), Marcus Camby (traded to New York), Samuel Dalembert (traded to Milwaukee), Goran Dragic (Phoenix), Courtney Lee (traded to Boston), Kyle Lowry (traded to Toronto), Luis Scola (Phoenix)

Indiana
Restricted: none
Unrestricted: Leandro Barbosa
Rookies: Miles Plumlee (26), Orlando Johnson (36)
Re-signed: Roy Hibbert, George Hill
Added: Blake Ahearn (Utah), D.J. Augustin (Charlotte), Sundiata Gaines (Brooklyn), Gerald Green (Brooklyn), Ian Mahinmi (trade w/Dallas), Sam Young (Philadelphia)
Lost: Louis Amundson (Minnesota), Darren Collison (traded to Dallas), Kyrylo Fesenko (Chicago), Dahntay Jones (traded to Dallas), A.J. Price (Washington)

LA Clippers
Restricted: none
Unrestricted: Kenyon Martin, Bobby Simmons
Rookies: none
Re-signed: Chauncey Billups
Added: Matt Barnes (LA Lakers), Jamal Crawford (Portland), Willie Green (trade w/LA Clippers), Grant Hill (Phoenix), Ryan Hollins (Boston), Lamar Odom (trade w/Dallas), Ronny Turiaf (Miami)
Lost: Reggie Evans (traded to Brooklyn), Randy Foye (Utah), Ryan Gomes, Mo Williams (traded to Utah), Nick Young (Philadelphia)

LA Lakers
Restricted: none
Unrestricted: Troy Murphy
Rookies: Darius Johnson-Odom (55), Robert Sacre (60)
Re-signed: Devin Ebanks, Jordan Hill, Darius Morris
Added: Earl Clark (trade w/Orlando), Chris Duhon (trade w/Orlando), Dwight Howard (trade w/Orlando), Antawn Jamison (Cleveland), Jodie Meeks (Philadelphia), Steve Nash (trade w/Phoenix)
Lost: Matt Barnes (LA Clippers), Andrew Bynum (traded to Philadelphia), Christian Eyenga (traded to Orlando), Josh McRoberts (traded to Orlando), Ramon Sessions (Charlotte)

Memphis
Restricted: none
Unrestricted: Gilbert Arenas, Lester Hudson
Rookies: Tony Wroten (25)
Re-signed: Darrell Arthur, Hamed Haddadi, Marreese Speights
Added: Jerryd Bayless (Toronto), Wayne Ellington (trade w/Minnesota), D.J. Kennedy (trade w/Cleveland)
Lost: Dante Cunningham (traded to Minnesota), O.J. Mayo (Dallas), Jeremy Pargo (traded to Memphis)

Miami
Restricted: none
Unrestricted: Eddy Curry, Juwan Howard
Rookies: Justin Hamilton (45), Jarvis Varnado
Re-signed: Terrel Harris
Added: Ray Allen (Boston), Mickell Gladness (Golden State), Rashard Lewis (New Orleans)
Lost: Ronny Turiaf (LA Clippers)

Milwaukee
Restricted: none
Unrestricted: none
Rookies: John Henson (14), Doron Lamb (42)
Re-signed: Ersan Ilyasova
Added: Samuel Dalembert (trade w/Houston), Marquis Daniels (Boston), Joel Przybilla (Portland)
Lost: Jon Brockman (trade w/Houston), Kwame Brown (Philadelphia), Carlos Delfino (Houston), Jon Leuer (trade w/Houston), Shaun Livingston (trade w/Houston)

Minnesota
Restricted: none
Unrestricted: none
Rookies: Robbie Hummel (58)
Re-signed:
Added: Louis Amundson (Indiana), Chase Budinger (trade w/Houston), Dante Cunningham (trade w/Memphis), Jerome Dyson (trade w/New Orleans), Andrei Kirilenko (CSKA Moscow), Brandon Roy (Portland), Alexey Shved (CSKA Moscow, Russia), Greg Stiemsma (Boston)
Lost: Michael Beasley (Phoenix), Wayne Ellington (traded to Memphis), Wesley Johnson (traded to Phoenix), Darko Milicic (Boston), Anthony Randolph (Denver), Anthony Tolliver (Atlanta), Martell Webster (Washington)

New Orleans
Restricted: none
Unrestricted: none
Rookies: Anthony Davis (1), Austin Rivers (10), Darius Miller (46)
Re-signed: Eric Gordon
Added: Ryan Anderson (trade w/Orlando), Hakim Warrick (trade w/Phoenix), Robin Lopez (trade w/Phoenix), Roger Mason Jr.
Lost: Trevor Ariza (traded to Washington), Gustavo Ayon (traded to Orlando), Marco Bellinelli (Chicago), Jerome Dyson (traded to Minnesota), Jarrett Jack (traded to Golden State), Chris Kaman (Dallas), Carl Landry (Golden State), Okafor (traded to Washington), Darryl Watkins (traded to Philadelphia)

New York
Restricted: none
Unrestricted: Mike Bibby, Baron Davis
Rookies: none
Re-signed: Steve Novak, J.R. Smith
Added: Ronnie Brewer (Chicago), Marcus Camby (trade w/Houston), Raymond Felton (trade w/Portland), Jason Kidd (Dallas), Pablo Prigioni (Caja Laboral, Argentina), Kurt Thomas (trade w/Portland)
Lost: Toney Douglas (traded to Houston), Landry Fields (Toronto), Dan Gadzuric (traded to Portland), Josh Harrellson (traded to Houston), Jared Jeffries (traded to Portland), Jerome Jordan (traded to Houston), Jeremy Lin (Houston)

Oklahoma City
Restricted: none
Unrestricted: Derek Fisher
Rookies: Perry Jones III (28)
Re-signed:
Added: DeAndre Liggins (Orlando), Daniel Orton (Orlando), Hasheem Thabeet (Portland), Hollis Thompson
Lost: Royal Ivey (Philadelphia), Nazr Mohammed (Chicago)

Orlando
Restricted: none
Unrestricted: none
Rookies: Maurice Harkless (15), Andrew Nicholson (19), Kyle O'Quinn (49)
Re-signed: Jameer Nelson, Ish Smith
Added: Aaron Afflalo (trade w/Denver), Gustavo Ayon (trade w/New Orleans), Christian Eyenga (trade w/LA Lakers), Al Harrington (trade w/Denver), Josh McRoberts (trade w/LA Lakers), E'Twaun Moore (Boston), Nikola Vucevic (trade w/Philadelphia)
Lost: Ryan Anderson (traded to New Orleans), Earl Clark (traded to LA Lakers), Chris Duhon (traded to LA Lakers), Dwight Howard (traded to LA Lakers), DeAndre Liggins (Oklahoma City), Daniel Orton (Oklahoma City), Von Wafer (Xinjiang Flying Tigers, China)

Philadelphia
Restricted: none
Unrestricted: Tony Battie, Craig Brackins, Xavier Silas
Rookies: Arnett Moultrie (27), Maalik Wayns
Re-signed: Lavoy Allen, Spencer Hawes
Added: Andrew Bynum (trade w/LA Lakers), Dan Gadzuric (New York), Royal Ivey (Oklahoma City), Jason Richardson (trade w/Orlando), Nick Young (LA Clippers)
Lost: Elton Brand (Dallas), Jodie Meeks (LA Lakers), Nikola Vucevic (traded to Orlando), Lou Williams (Atlanta), Sam Young (Indiana)

Phoenix
Restricted: none
Unrestricted: Michael Redd
Rookies: Kendall Marshall (13)
Re-signed: Shannon Brown
Added: Michael Beasley (Minnesota), Goran Dragic (Houston), Wesley Johnson (trade w/Minnesota), Jermaine O'Neal, Luis Scola (Houston), P.J. Tucker
Lost: Aaron Brooks (Sacramento), Josh Childress (Brooklyn), Grant Hill (LA Clippers), Robin Lopez (traded to New Orleans), Steve Nash (traded to LA Lakers), Ronnie Price (Portland), Hakim Warrick (traded to New Orleans)

Portland
Restricted: none
Unrestricted: none
Rookies: Damian Lillard (6), Meyers Leonard (11), Will Barton (40), Kostas Papanikolaou (48)
Re-signed: Nicolas Batum, J.J. Hickson
Added: Jared Jeffries (trade w/New York), Sasha Pavlovic (trade w/Boston), Ronnie Price (Phoenix)
Lost: Jamal Crawford (LA Clippers), Raymond Felton (traded to New York), Jonny Flynn (Detroit), Joel Przybilla (Milwaukee), Brandon Roy (Minnesota), Craig Smith (Hapoel Jerusalem B.C., Israel), Hasheem Thabeet (Oklahoma City), Kurt Thomas (traded to New York), Shawne Williams

Sacramento
Restricted: none
Unrestricted: none
Rookies: Thomas Robinson
Re-signed: Jason Thompson
Added: Aaron Brooks (Phoenix), James Johnson (trade w/Toronto)
Lost: Donte Greene (Brooklyn), Hassan Whiteside, Terrence Williams (Detroit)

San Antonio
Restricted: none
Unrestricted: none
Rookies: Marcus Denmon (59)
Re-signed: Boris Diaw, Tim Duncan, Danny Green, Patrick Mills
Added: Nando de Colo (Valencia Basket)
Lost:

Toronto
Restricted: none
Unrestricted: Solomon Alabi, Jamaal Magloire
Rookies: Terrence Ross (8), Quincy Acy (37), Tomislav Zubcic (56), Jonas Valanciunas
Re-signed: Alan Anderson, Aaron Gray
Added: Landry Fields (New York), Kyle Lowry (trade w/Houston), John Lucas III (Chicago), Dominic McGuire (Golden State), Chris Wright (Golden State)
Lost: Jerryd Bayless (Memphis), Gary Forbes (traded to Houston), James Johnson (traded to Sacramento), Ben Uzoh (Cholet, France), Sonny Weems (CSKA Moscow, Russia)

Utah
Restricted: none
Unrestricted: Josh Howard
Rookies: Kevin Murphy (47)
Re-signed: Jeremy Evans
Added: Randy Foye (LA Clippers), Marvin Williams (trade w/Atlanta)
Lost: Blake Ahearn (Indiana), Raja Bell, Tadija Dragicevic (traded to Dallas), Devin Harris (traded to Atlanta), C.J. Miles (Cleveland)

Washington
Restricted: none
Unrestricted: Brian Cook, Maurice Evans
Rookies: Bradley Beal (3), Tomas Satoransky (32)
Re-signed: Cartier Martin
Added: Trevor Ariza (trade w/New Orleans), Emeka Okafor (trade w/New Orleans), A.J. Price (Indiana), Martell Webster (Minnesota)
Lost: Morris Almond (Red Star, Belgrade), Andray Blatche (Brooklyn), Rashard Lewis (traded to New Orleans), James Singleton (Xinjiang Flying Tigers, China)

Quote from: difference between Player Option and ETO
# Player Options give the player the right to invoke the option. There can be only one option year.

# Player Early Termination Options (ETOs) give the player the right to terminate the contract early. An ETO can't occur prior to the end of fourth season of the contract (which implies that the contract must be for at least five seasons).

Here's a summary of the differences between an option and an ETO:

* Options can occur only when one season remains on the contract, while ETOs can occur when two seasons remain if the contract is for six seasons.
* Options can be included in any multiyear contract, but ETOs are allowed only with five or six year contracts.
* Options can be held by the player or the team, but ETOs are always held by the player (i.e., there's no such thing as a team Early Termination Option).
* Option years may not have a lower salary than the previous season. ETOs have no such restriction.
* A contract with a player option can be extended when the option is not exercised. A contract with an ETO may not be extended if the ETO is exercised.
* When determining the amount of a trade bonus (see question number 85), option years are not counted as part of the remaining value of the contract, but years following an ETO are counted.



Figured I'd get this started already.

The season started out promising and ended pretty shitty for the Portland Trailblazers but the offseason is looking fun and promising.. lots of money to spend, two lottery picks, and the promise of a new GM and coach. One of the candidates for a GM apparently might even be Lakers GM Mitch Kupchak. Huh.

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2012, 07:26:59 AM »
I'd like to see Mitch in a place where he could actually be the GM. This kind of proves to everyone who's been running the show in LA.

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2012, 07:29:36 AM »
The Lakers won't let Portland speak to Mitch.


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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2012, 09:47:07 AM »
I kind of figured that, but it'd be interesting if they did. I don't doubt that Mitch wouldn't mind the opportunity given that there's no Buss and Kobe in Portland.. although he's got a guy who's been totally cool with a revolving door at GM for the past, oh couple decades or so.

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2012, 08:06:18 AM »
I am just getting ready to post in here if Phoenix can't beat Utah. That Frye injury might have just done us in.

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2012, 03:34:08 AM »
The Hornets are looking OK going into the final two games of the season.

New owner, solid GM and coach in place, the young talent acquired this year like Eric Gordon, Al-Farouq Aminu, Xavier Henry, Gustavo Avon, and Greivis Vasquez, are all looking good, and they'll probably have two Top 10 picks this year.


Not a great season, but there's certainly a much brighter future to come.  Much more than can be said about other franchises like Charlotte...
It's hard to make comparisons since Auburn is replacing a lot of production on defense and LSU's unit is apparently composed of half human/half swamp mutant hybrids who spit diesel fuel and long to hear the terrified screams of small children.


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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2012, 09:22:35 PM »

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2012, 06:06:42 AM »
http://espn.go.com/nba/lottery2012/mockdraft

If you want to see how your team could end up, try this out.

ESPN must hate Anthony Davis' knees since the Blazers came out drafting him #1 overall like two or three times in a row. The next time I tried generating it, he went to the Nets, naturally. Fun stuff.

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2012, 08:26:54 AM »
I keep hearing about how the draft this year is one of the deepest in years. Does anyone have a good source backing that up?


I can't believe a guy can be that big, and jump around like he does what a great athlete!

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2012, 08:40:26 AM »
I can't really find a source about how deep it is, but Perry Jones would have gone top 2 in last year's draft, he may go lottery this time. It's deep, light on point guards but a scout's dream draft. There's much less to gain from tanking than there would have been last season.


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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2012, 08:41:17 AM »
Don't you mean more to gain since there's more talent?


I can't believe a guy can be that big, and jump around like he does what a great athlete!

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2012, 08:44:37 AM »
The differences between 2-5 are pretty negligible. I think if you'd want to tank, you'd do it in a year with less players to make sure you get a good one. If you're tanking for one particular player it seems kinda useless because who knows how the top five guys who aren't Anthony Davis will fall into the order.


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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2012, 01:04:52 AM »
The differences between 2-5 are pretty negligible. I think if you'd want to tank, you'd do it in a year with less players to make sure you get a good one. If you're tanking for one particular player it seems kinda useless because who knows how the top five guys who aren't Anthony Davis will fall into the order.

This is why NJ making their pick Top 3 protected because "there are only three guys worth drafting" was a load of shit.

Just because NJ had three guys on their board doesn't mean those guys will go 1-2-3.
It's hard to make comparisons since Auburn is replacing a lot of production on defense and LSU's unit is apparently composed of half human/half swamp mutant hybrids who spit diesel fuel and long to hear the terrified screams of small children.


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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2012, 05:02:56 AM »
I keep hearing about how the draft this year is one of the deepest in years. Does anyone have a good source backing that up?

Best top overall prospect since Rose and only two real boom-or-bust types in the whole lottery. If you're picking in the top 10 you're all but guaranteed to get at least a solid rotation player.

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2012, 05:09:02 AM »
The NBA is holding coin-flips for lottery tie-breakers right now.


In other news, the US Attorney's Office is investigating the NBA player's union.  Billy Hunter's probably going to get a forensic accountant up his ass very soon.
It's hard to make comparisons since Auburn is replacing a lot of production on defense and LSU's unit is apparently composed of half human/half swamp mutant hybrids who spit diesel fuel and long to hear the terrified screams of small children.


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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2012, 05:45:07 AM »
In other news, the US Attorney's Office is investigating the NBA player's union.  Billy Hunter's probably going to get a forensic accountant up his ass very soon.
The revenge of Derek Fisher.

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2012, 06:41:12 AM »
I keep hearing about how the draft this year is one of the deepest in years. Does anyone have a good source backing that up?

Best top overall prospect since Rose and only two real boom-or-bust types in the whole lottery. If you're picking in the top 10 you're all but guaranteed to get at least a solid rotation player.
Who are the boom or bust types? Drummond one of them you think?

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2012, 06:45:32 AM »
Who are the boom or bust types? Drummond one of them you think?

The major boom-or-bust picks in the lottery would be Drummond and Perry Jones III.

Drummond's measurables make him a high lottery pick, but his production at UCONN sucked.

Jones has great athleticism but isn't consistent.
It's hard to make comparisons since Auburn is replacing a lot of production on defense and LSU's unit is apparently composed of half human/half swamp mutant hybrids who spit diesel fuel and long to hear the terrified screams of small children.


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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2012, 06:52:44 AM »
Golden State is #7 after the coin flips, so they have a 72.5% chance of keeping their pick. Otherwise, it goes to Utah.

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2012, 07:06:38 AM »
Golden State is #7 after the coin flips, so they have a 72.5% chance of keeping their pick. Otherwise, it goes to Utah.

With all their money tied up in big men and their face of the franchise being Stephen Curry, I see them going after a wing like Beal, MKG, or Barnes with that pick.

It's hard to make comparisons since Auburn is replacing a lot of production on defense and LSU's unit is apparently composed of half human/half swamp mutant hybrids who spit diesel fuel and long to hear the terrified screams of small children.


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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2012, 07:17:25 AM »
Yeah, Drummond and Jones are the only guys with major bust potential that I can see. And even there, the risk isn't, like, Hasheem Thabeet levels or anything.

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2012, 05:06:14 PM »
I keep saying the Heat should go for Steve Nash...that's clearly fucking retarded on my part because the LAKERS should go for Steve Nash. I can't believe I overlooked this. The guy would be a beast on this team with these big men.


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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2012, 03:37:50 AM »
Nash doesn't work well with guys that need to take up space in the paint. He would be a upgrade shooter, but he would be pretty pedestrian with the Lakers. Kinda like what Porter turned him into when Phoenix had Shaq/Amare.

Honestly, there isn't a contender out there or near contender that needs Nash at the point outside of the Hawks or if Howard were to stay in Orlando(Howard isn't a real post up player, pick and roll all day with him and those shooters around nash and they look scary).

Memphis would also probably look better and Dallas might need a point if Kidd calls it a career, but thats about it. Otherwise he would just be with a fringe team...pretty much like he is now.

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2012, 04:47:05 PM »
Gerald Wallace has opted out in Jersey, meaning that the Nets traded a top 7 pick for 2 months of his services.

Combine that with Deron likely walking and you have a total clusterfuck that could cripple the team for years.
It's hard to make comparisons since Auburn is replacing a lot of production on defense and LSU's unit is apparently composed of half human/half swamp mutant hybrids who spit diesel fuel and long to hear the terrified screams of small children.


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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2012, 04:48:08 PM »
Jay-Z hasn't taken a loss like this since "Ether".

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #25 on: April 28, 2012, 05:04:41 PM »
BROOKLYN BROOKLYN

We'll trade them Amare for a couple first rounders

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #26 on: April 28, 2012, 07:29:18 PM »
The Nets also have Avery Johnson as a coach.





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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2012, 06:02:02 AM »
Paul Silas is out in Charlotte.

While you probably don't want to keep the coach of a team that played like dogshit this year, I wonder who would even want to take over this clusterfuck.

They don't have a lot of talent and Jordan is not thought of well as an owner or exec.
It's hard to make comparisons since Auburn is replacing a lot of production on defense and LSU's unit is apparently composed of half human/half swamp mutant hybrids who spit diesel fuel and long to hear the terrified screams of small children.


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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2012, 06:03:54 AM »
Jordan should make one of his kids the head coach

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #29 on: April 30, 2012, 06:07:27 AM »
Paul Silas is out in Charlotte.

While you probably don't want to keep the coach of a team that played like dogshit this year, I wonder who would even want to take over this clusterfuck.

They don't have a lot of talent and Jordan is not thought of well as an owner or exec.


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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #30 on: April 30, 2012, 06:46:12 AM »


I dig this new logo. I wonder if David Stern rigs the lottery and gets someone important in the new digs.

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #31 on: April 30, 2012, 06:52:31 AM »
Damn that looks like a create-a-logo from a video game


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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #32 on: April 30, 2012, 06:59:02 AM »
"All black everything"

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #33 on: April 30, 2012, 06:59:36 AM »
The new colors are just black and white. It feels classy. It's a shame they're going to be insanely bad.

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #34 on: April 30, 2012, 07:02:40 AM »
Yankee colors with garbage logo and a garbage team. Awesome.

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #35 on: April 30, 2012, 07:04:17 AM »
You guys remember the last time a team moved we got this, right?


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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #36 on: April 30, 2012, 07:05:19 AM »
That's a shit logo too.

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #37 on: April 30, 2012, 07:07:48 AM »
I think it looks lazy. Like someone was just trying to rush out a logo and got on their computer and put that together in 3 minutes. It might be because we're used to seeing flashy logos, but something a little more than a black and white logo with the name a ball would be better.
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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #38 on: April 30, 2012, 07:16:26 AM »
Khloe & Lamar has been canceled, so Lamar Odom can focus on his burgeoning NBA career.


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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #39 on: April 30, 2012, 07:17:10 AM »
NOOOOOOO

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #40 on: April 30, 2012, 08:12:25 AM »
The Nets new logos look like something Jay-Z would design.  Probably because Jay-Z designed them.

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #41 on: April 30, 2012, 01:27:00 PM »
I like the part where someone typed the letter "B" over clip art of a basketball and then did a shitty, unintentionally asymmetrical text warp and then typed "Brooklyn" straight across the bottom pursuant to NBA primary logo rules and then didn't use any colors. I just had a huge bowl of Cuban food for dinner and whatever I shit back out in the morning will have been executed with more artistry and fundamental design sensibility than this.

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #42 on: May 02, 2012, 07:00:03 PM »
John Wall shot 27.1% from three feet and beyond this season, including making only 3 of 42 three-point attempts...yeesh.

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #43 on: May 04, 2012, 04:44:03 AM »
NY Post columnist Phil Mushnick may be on the way out after suggesting that the New Jersey Nets rename themselves into the "New York N_____s" after letting Jay Z re-design the franchise logo, also suggesting that the dance team be called the "Brooklyn Bitches".

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/double_standard_TFPqqilUHif01I9BKkQSkN/1
It's hard to make comparisons since Auburn is replacing a lot of production on defense and LSU's unit is apparently composed of half human/half swamp mutant hybrids who spit diesel fuel and long to hear the terrified screams of small children.


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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #44 on: May 04, 2012, 04:47:10 AM »
Hahahahah what a dumbass.

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #45 on: May 04, 2012, 04:53:32 AM »
Claim of "I'M NOT RACIST" in 5,4,3,2..

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #46 on: May 04, 2012, 05:55:23 AM »
his gimmick is controversial crotchety old white shithead so he won't be fired.

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #47 on: May 04, 2012, 05:59:29 AM »
Nah, there's pretty much no way he'll get away with that.


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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #48 on: May 04, 2012, 06:28:49 AM »
I can't believe I'm actually going to defend Phil Mushnick, but that's not racially motivated, that's hating the influence of gangster rap on society and sports motivated.  It's been a theme in his columns for years. 

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As long as the Nets are allowing Jay-Z to call their marketing shots — what a shock that he chose black and white as the new team colors to stress, as the Nets explained, their new “urban” home — why not have him apply the full Jay-Z treatment?

Why the Brooklyn Nets when they can be the New York N------s? The cheerleaders could be the Brooklyn B----hes or Hoes. Team logo? A 9 mm with hollow-tip shell casings strewn beneath. Wanna be Jay-Z hip? Then go all the way!

Jay-Z made his fame and fortune trading in nigga, bitch, hoe, drug and gun talk.  Mushnick finds this, and by extension his involvement with the Nets, deplorable.

The guy is a crotchety old prick, but he's not a racist.

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread for Those Who Wish There'd Been a Lockout
« Reply #49 on: May 04, 2012, 06:35:03 AM »
his gimmick is controversial crotchety old white shithead so he won't be fired.