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« on: May 15, 2009, 05:14:26 PM »
Just got back probably an hour or so ago from a TNA house show in Florence SC.  Decided instead of just creating a thread about that show that nobody would give a shit about, I'd make a thread for all untelevised house shows or just regular shows from indy feds, that kinda shit.  This isn't a thread for spoiler reports and off-camera happenings on TV shows, this is just to post your own reports for shows you went to, and that other people more than likely won't give a damn about.

They kept on mentioning the attendance as being 2000, which seemed possible.   One of the first things I noticed was that the environment for this show was a shitton better than the last TNA house show I went to.  Aka:  it had air conditioning.

Borash starts out the show with the basic "whoever makes the most noise will get a backstage pass" stuff that TNA always seems to start out their house shows with.  After that we get to the first match:

1)  Suicide defeats Kiyoshi to retain the X-Division championship.
Suicide entered through the crowd, and got a pretty decent pop.   Crowd couldn't care less about Kiyoshi though.  Decent, but nothing spectacular.   Suicide wins cleanly with some kind of fisherman fallaway slam. (??  I guess that's the best way to describe it?)   I don't watch TNA all that much, but, that isn't his finisher is it?  Doesn't he normally use the move from the video game?

2)  Madison Rayne defeats Daffney
This match...ye gads this match was pretty bad.  Being a huge Daffney mark, I'd love to place the blame on Madison, but both women were blowing spots throughout the match.   Crowd didn't get into it one way or the other.  Madison counters a 10-punch corner spot into a powerbomb, and gets the pin with her feet on the ropes.

Borash comes out and proceeds to EXPLAIN WHAT TEXT MESSAGING IS (thanks JB.  I had no idea) because he got a text from Beer Money Inc insulting the crowd to get cheap heat.   Yes, BMI is *literally* phoning in their work now.

3)  Rhino defeats Shiek Abdul Bashir
Rhino and Bashir easily get the biggest face and heel reactions of the night so far.   Bashir gets on the mic, prompting the first of many USA chants in the match.   Bashir eats a Gore for the clean pin.

4)  Jeff Jarrett/Christopher Daniels defeat Beer Money Inc
Beer Money attempt to get on the mic prematch to get more cheap heat, but the mic doesn't work.  Turns out they didn't need it anyways, since the crowd fuckin hated them.  JJ, on the other hand, got a HUGE pop from the crowd.  Easily the biggest of the whole night.  This match had the most contrived oral sex spot in wrestling history.  Jarrett tied Roode up in the tree of woe, Daniels irish whipped Storm into Roode, and then after Storm fell onto the mat, JJ/Daniels crotched Storm on the post Roode was on.   So....yeah.   Roode/Storm teased fighting over who was responsible for them blowing each other, but hugged and made up instead.   Shortly afterward, Jarrett pins Storm with the Stroke.

Intermission at this point, where the people who got backstage passes were allowed to go back.   They were back there for maybe 5 minutes before they were kicked back out again.

5)  Eric Young defeats Cute Kip
You know what, I take back what I said about Daffney/Rayne.  THIS was the worst match of the night.   Crowd couldn't give a shit about Eric Young, but Billy Gunn?  He got the most heel heat of the entire night.  Holy hell did that surprise me.  This was a basic Konnan Formula match.  Kip controlled the entire match (75% of his offense being a chinlock) and then Young hits two moves at the end, and gets the win with a DVD.  MVP of this match was the guy sitting behind me in the crowd, who couldn't go more than 3 seconds without telling Kip how much he sucked.

6)  AJ Styles defeats Booker T to retain the Legends Championship
I don't understand the match placement.  Why the hell have 4 matches before intermission, and only 2 after?   AJ and Booker both came out to pretty good face pops, once the match started it was probably 60/40 in favor of AJ.  I missed a lot of this match because all of a sudden during the entrances I noticed someone was standing up in the luxury box in the arena looking down on everyone.   It seriously distracted the fuck out of me, since NONE of the regular arena seats above the 6th or 7th row were being used, so the person way up in the luxury box really stood out.  AJ won after ducking a scissors kick and kicking Booker in the back of the head.  Really anticlimactic finish.

After that they did the basic autograph session where they brought people out to sign stuff, or for the "TNA Superfans" you could get a photo in the ring with AJ and Suicide for $20.

I went with Choice C, go home.   Overall the show gets a solid "meh" from me.   Nowhere near the worst shows I've been too, but nowhere near the best either.  Hopefully when I go to Raw on June 15th it'll be better.

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« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2009, 03:04:06 AM »
Suicide can't do the move from the video game due to physics, so they gave him "The Suicide Solution", the move you saw him do.

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« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2009, 03:26:25 AM »
I coulda sworn I saw him do the move from the game (or something close to it) during one of his initial run-ins?

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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2009, 05:41:28 AM »
Yeah he did one part of it but can't physically pull off the satellite scissor or the mid-move taunt

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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2009, 03:09:43 PM »
In June there's going to be a TNA house show here in Abbotsford that I plan to attend. I'm not sure why Abby of all places was chosen. No matches announced yet but it claims AJ, Joe, Booker, Angle(?), and Beer Money will be there which is cool as I've never seen any of those guys live.

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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2009, 03:27:58 PM »
I noticed that TNA is touring some really small out of the way places, clearly on their way to being the number 1 fed!

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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2009, 04:29:31 PM »
Speaking of my lovely hometown, The United Nations gang that was mentioned in today's WO update was formed and operates in Abbotsford.

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« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2009, 09:41:06 AM »
TNA is coming to Oklahoma City Thursday night. Are they going to the Ford Center where the Thunder play NBA games at and WWE holds PPV and television events? No. The Cox Convention Center which is like the Ford Center's bastard little brother? No.
They're going to the Coca-Cola Bricktown Events Center. It's basically a glorified high school gymnasium. I think Lloyd Noble where OU plays basketball is a bigger arena. Yipee.

I'm thinking of going. Is it worth 35 bucks?
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« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2009, 09:49:17 AM »
I noticed that TNA is touring some really small out of the way places, clearly on their way to being the number 1 fed!



To be fair to Florence, South Carolina, WWE does visit the Civic Center regularly. They even held In Your House: Beware of Dog there until the power went out and forced them to relocate to Charleston.

Where in Florence was the show held? My first thought is the Civic Center but only because I don't know where else it could be held. The Civic Center is located in a not bad part of the city, it's near the mall and a nice movie theater so that would help draw a crowd over (walk ups at least).

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« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2009, 09:52:10 AM »
Here's what's scheduled to appear, Dama;


Main Event
“Samoan Submission Machine” Samoa Joe vs. “Big Poppa Pump” Scott Steiner

Tag Team Action
Beer Money, Inc. vs. Lethal Consequences

Grudge Match
“The Monster” Abyss vs. “The Blueprint” Matt Morgan

A special appearance by TNA World Heavyweight Champion and Executive Shareholder, “The Hardcore Legend” Mick Foley!

Also Appearing: TNA X Division Champion Suicide, “The War Machine” Rhino, TNA Knockout Women’s Champion Angelina Love, Sheik Abdul Bashir, Homicide, Taylor Wilde, and more!

I don't know...doesn't sound like a terribly promising card on paper but I still maintain even a bad wrestling show usually makes for a good night out.

I'm going to my first show in about three years on Saturday at the armory that's literally right up the street from me.. It's the first indy show in Portland in six or seven years. Steve Blackman, Gran Apolo, and Rick Fuller are all being advertised. If that isn't a cavalcade of stars, I don't know what is.

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« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2009, 10:27:51 AM »


Where in Florence was the show held? My first thought is the Civic Center but only because I don't know where else it could be held. The Civic Center is located in a not bad part of the city, it's near the mall and a nice movie theater so that would help draw a crowd over (walk ups at least).

The Florence show was in the civic center, but other than the floor seating, there was only maybe 5 rows full of regular "arena" seating that was sold.

Dama:  Is that $35 total, or $35 plus the stupid assload of Ticketmaster fees?

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« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2009, 02:38:02 AM »
It's 40 after the dumbass fees. I bought a ticket, it's tonight.

I know nothing about TNA or their storylines or most of their wrestlers. But, wrestling is always fun to go to.
I remember when Unforgiven was at the Ford Center in OKC. I hadn't watched WWE in about a year at that time and had no clue what was happening. But, I went and still had a great time.

Sucks there's no Booker T (for comedy) or AJ Styles. Christopher Daniels would've been cool too. Oh well, I wouldn't mind seeing Joe live.
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« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2009, 02:40:11 AM »
Suppose I have a great time and decide I want to start watching some TNA. Would there be a place one could go (aside from Wiki) to catch up on their histories and feuds and what not?
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« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2009, 08:44:37 AM »
Be like the bookers. Don't even sweat it. Some TNA stuff is really convoluted.

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« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2009, 09:29:22 AM »
So, just a question then.  If you know next to nothing about TNA and the wrestlers, why not just got to an indy show for 1/4 of the price?   None in the area?

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« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2009, 03:26:39 PM »
There are none in the area, well there probably are but after seeing some of their wrestlers it doesn't seem too good.

The TNA show was good. We had fun.

Highlights:
-I was in one of those sections that likes to cheer heels. We started an "Iraq!" chant for the Sheik and then kept doing the infidel scream. Haha.
-Samoa Joe got whipped into the guardrail and took some poor kid out. That wasn't cool but the kids dad flipped out and started screaming at Steiner who simply yelled "Fuck you fatty!"
-Beer Money Inc. ripping the fans. It was hilarious. Especially because I think they really hurt some fat ladies feelings.
-Getting in the ring at the end and taking a photo with Mick Foley
-All the autographs I got
-My Beer Money Inc. shirt. lol. I haven't owned a wrestling shirt in years.
-Suicide, I thought he was cool
-The venue was tiny and there were only like 1,000 fans or so. So it turned pretty much into a General Admission show. And you could see from anywhere.
Lowlights:
-This guy in front of me was some kind of super fan or smark or something. I make one comment that you probably have to know about wrestling to get and this guy wont' quit talking to me for the rest of the damn show. I eventually had to move away.
All I said during a stalling sequence was "Let's wrestle! This ain't Memphis!" and he spun around and it was over from there.
Well....that's really the only low light.

Oh yeah, one of the local wrestlers came up to me and gave me a flyer for their wrestling school and said something like "Hey big guy. You need to come out and wrestle! A guy your size would be perfect!" I thought it sounded fun, but I hear those schools are absurdly expensive.
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« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2009, 05:59:16 PM »
Hahahahahaha

Dama was one of the fools who paid $20 just for a damn photo.

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« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2009, 01:14:34 AM »
Hahahahahaha

Dama was one of the fools who paid $20 just for a damn photo.

Not me. My friend. He said "Let's do it!" and I said "Are you paying?" and he said "Sure it's on me!" I almost had him convinced to pay 20 more bucks to go for another photo.
I don't pay for stuff like that.
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« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2009, 01:30:21 AM »
Considering how many of us have dropped $20+ on a meal, is a photo such a bad use of money?

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« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2009, 01:35:44 AM »
Yes. $20 for a photo for a wrestler from TNA? Come on

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« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2009, 02:42:54 AM »
Yes. $20 for a photo for a wrestler from TNA? Come on

My friend is so gullible for these photo-ops. I'm willing to bet he's dropped 100's of dollars at various conventions for photos with celebrities and wrestlers.
Not my money.
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« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2009, 04:33:13 AM »
This could be its own thread but the only wrestler that I could maybe see dropping $20 on to take a photo with is Ric Flair. I could probably count on one hand the number of wrestlers I'd pay $10 to take pictures with.

I used to drop $5 every time I went to indy shows as a 12 year old mark to take pictures with a bunch of no-names. I could have used that to buy candy! Nobody's going to be impressed by a picture of me with the future Palmer Cannon!

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« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2009, 04:43:55 AM »
Free photos though? Heck yes. I got photos with Petey Williams and Chris Sabin.

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« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2009, 05:13:26 AM »
Yeah, I wouldn't have done it if I was paying for it myself. I remember when he paid to take a photo with Daffney. I didn't pay shit and stood there and talked to her for an hour. Who needs a photo?
I did pay 5 bucks one time to take a photo with the Suicide Girls. But that was more because they draped themselves all over me while taking the photo, well worth the 5 bucks. *thumbs up*

Does Beer Money Inc. have some sort of gay gimmick going? Because they sure were pushing it at this show.
It was funny listening to them promote the crowd as if they don't do it at every show. "Oklahoma City this is our second show here and it's been insane at both of them! I think next time we come it should be on pay per view!" Yeah fucking right. Besides, I don't think we have a midsize arena to support that. The Ford Center is too big, the Cox Center is run down and probably too big, and the Bricktown Events Center (where they were) is too small.
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« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2009, 01:02:46 PM »
I was woken up by the local radio station interviewing Necro Butcher this morning.  Apparently he was appearing at some tiny indy show about an hour away tonight.  I almost wished I would have known about it sooner, so I could have gotten off from work in time.

Maybe next time.
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« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2009, 04:05:39 PM »
Here's the photo my friend spent 20 bucks on. I told him I didn't like the way my mouth was hanging open. He almost spent another 20 for a second photo. I probably never would've let him live it down if he let me convince him to do that.
But this guy has photos of him with Vincent, Daffney, Chewbacca, Lou Ferrigno, the Green Power Ranger, Corey Feldman, Daffney and some dudes from that super hero reality show. He's had to have spent 300 bucks in his lifetime on these photos.

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« Reply #26 on: May 23, 2009, 05:20:08 AM »
I must admit I thought that was a pseudo-manly-woman at first.

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« Reply #27 on: May 23, 2009, 08:02:23 AM »
I guess nobody wants to go with me to the wrestling show up the street tonight. I might just drink a bunch of beers beforehand and go myself and heckle some of the wrestlers. Hilarity may ensue or I'll just look pathetic. Probably the latter...

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« Reply #28 on: May 23, 2009, 08:10:08 AM »
you should go streak in the ring during intermission

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« Reply #29 on: May 23, 2009, 08:12:53 AM »
Not a bad idea except that's where they hold the autograph and photo sessions so I'd likely pummeled by all of the babyfaces on the roster. Though, that group is supposed to include former WWE superstar Steve Blackman tonight. I've always wanted to get beat up a former WWE Hardcore Champion.

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« Reply #30 on: May 23, 2009, 11:03:15 AM »
I must admit I thought that was a pseudo-manly-woman at first.

My wife's mom thought he was a girl the first time she met him. My grandma thought he was a girl the first time she met him. Most others just think he's gay.

Or were you talking about me? *bats eyelashes at daileyxplanet*   :-*
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« Reply #31 on: May 23, 2009, 02:04:13 PM »
Aw man---nothing like going to a comically bad indy wrestling show when you're half in the tank. I was seated between a semi-amusing group of fellow smarks and a highly enthusiastic group of extremely drunk and loud white trash.  Brilliant. I'll have a semi-detailed report up after they post the results on the website (that PA system was terrible). Not surprisingly, the Lethal Weapon was never mentioned. In fact, I was kind of surprised they were advertising him for the show in the first place. Didn't he retire five years ago or so due to a neck injury?

How bad was the show? The main event between Rick Fuller and The Giant Pharaoh (his gimmick is uh...that he's a tall pharaoh) Vs Apolo and Chicano ended with a DQ as a result of a low blow followed by the heels beating the shit out of the babyfaces and Rick Fuller walking off with Apolo's title. But the fans would be sent home happy because Apolo decided to KTFO the referee for no good reason! This resulted in the white trash group next to me storming ringside (oh--there was no barricade and one extremely lazy looking security guard) and pounding the mat in appreciation of their hero.  Kudos to whoever was booking tonight. Way to make your top babyfaces look good. Have them get beat up 75% of the match, win by DQ, get the shit beat out of them after the match, and then beat up the referee.

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« Reply #32 on: May 24, 2009, 07:42:25 AM »
Be like the bookers. Don't even sweat it. Some TNA stuff is really convoluted.

So yeah, I did have a lot of fun at the house show even if I didn't know any of the storylines or past storylines.
How long has TNA been around? 7 years? 8?
I kind of wouldn't mind watching some TNA or at  least catching up on some stuff. Any recommendations of events and DVDs that would be good to pick up? Have they really had any awesome matches and PPVs that are worth picking up on DVD?

I remember buying the 1 cent PPV way back when. Some of the stuff in it was decently cool. Has their arena and entrance ramp gotten bigger though over time?
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« Reply #33 on: May 24, 2009, 07:50:55 AM »
Get Global Impact (a show they put on with/in Japan) and check Best Buy's website for some cheap three disc sets. Someone else should be able to be more specific. There's one TNA PPV that's usually always good every year. I think it's Bound For Glory. Look for the show with AJ/Daniels/Joe.

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« Reply #34 on: May 28, 2009, 12:08:53 PM »
So I'm going to FCW(Florida Championship Wrestling) tomorrow night at the Orlando Armory. I went a couple months ago and the show was about 3 hours long but man was it a great time. Looking forward to it, especially if Tyson Kidd and David Hart Smith are there.

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« Reply #35 on: June 04, 2009, 10:48:09 AM »
The TNA house show is tomorrow and I've been really looking forward to it but Joe getting injured just killed like 40% of my interest.

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« Reply #36 on: June 05, 2009, 01:40:45 AM »
So every year WWE runs a house show at The Hampton Beach Casino Ballroom, which is a 2000 seat venue about 75 minutes from my house and I've always wanted to see a show there. But I was hesitant to buy tickets since they always seem to alternate between A shows (a few years back, they had John Cena Vs Edge with Ricky Steamboat as special guest ref as the main event) and shows with a lineup that wouldn't constitute for a decent extended episode of ECW (last year's show was main evented by Mark Henry Vs Matt Hardy and The Great Khali Vs Finlay!). So I finally decide to buy tickets after hearing that CM Punk and Rey Mysterio Vs Edge and Chris Jericho is the advertised main event...and it's sold out! Bah! I swear when I finally do decide to jump the gun and buy tickets on the first day, the show I see will have Dolph Ziggler and Hornswoggle dukin' it out in the main event.

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« Reply #37 on: June 05, 2009, 01:48:41 AM »
The TNA house show is tomorrow and I've been really looking forward to it but Joe getting injured just killed like 40% of my interest.

Joe's an asshole, anyway.  Sure, he's fun to watch wrestle, but he stuck out as a total prick toward the fans after the show I went to last Halloween, whereas most other wrestlers were very friendly. Joe was even in his home... well, not hometown, but home area.

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« Reply #38 on: June 05, 2009, 01:57:34 AM »
Don't know what happened with you, but every time I met Joe, he was really cool. We once took over a q-n-a he was doing and just asked him inside jokes pertaining to his live journal

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« Reply #39 on: June 05, 2009, 09:37:26 AM »
Is that what they call a Q&A in TNA, a QNA?

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« Reply #40 on: June 05, 2009, 10:32:13 AM »
Every wrestler/human being has their bad days. I don't know of any wrestler who hasn't had at least one story about them being a dick to fans.

And even if Joe really is a dick, I wouldn't care. I pay to see him wrestle not because he's a great humanitarian.

Anyway show starts in a couple hours.

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« Reply #41 on: June 05, 2009, 10:34:37 AM »
I think you'll enjoy it.  This week of touring has gotten really good reviews.  Plus...the two best acts in the company (Beer Money and the Beutiful People) are on it...  It simply can't be bad...

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« Reply #42 on: June 05, 2009, 10:35:34 AM »
The one and only ROH show I attended (at the pier in NYC, December 2005), Joe walked through the lobby and was all, "Hey everybody!" and very nice. Of course, this was before he tripped over some bad booking.

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« Reply #43 on: June 05, 2009, 04:27:46 PM »
Had a great time. Daniels Vs Suicide was fun and Daniels Vs Suicide Vs AJ was great. Best non-televised show I've ever been to probably. Borash did a great job as MC and they really went out of their way to get the crowd to interact and did stuff for the kids too. I;ve never been to a WWE show that made the crowd feel like a part of the show that way.

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« Reply #44 on: June 05, 2009, 09:35:40 PM »
From a TNA house show report:
'Lots of "You screwed Bret" chants in the arena tonight. A confused Angelina Love got on the mic and claimed she has never slept with Bret.'

LOL!


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« Reply #45 on: June 06, 2009, 10:59:05 AM »
Yeah that was the show I was at. It was pretty clear that at this point "You screwed Bret" is just done by rote with no real feeling behind it, it's just another chant.

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« Reply #46 on: June 07, 2009, 01:45:35 AM »
Went to a PWO taping last night in Brunswick.  Noted for PWO tag champs Greg Valentine and Jim Neidhart wrestling 4 times . . . kinda.

They wrestled in a 3-match gauntlet in which the first match was against high school kids in which they obliterated in a minute.  They obviously won the next two matches in short order.  In fact, IIRC, there wasn't even a tag made in the entire gauntlet by any team.  From there, they came back to defeat Pirate Justice to retain their titles in a more traditional style match. 

They taped 3 shows.  For the 1st show, the place was packed and the fans were ready for freddie.  By the time the 2nd show started, about 1/5 of the fans called it quits and went home.  By the time their go-home show started for their big event, there was about 100-200 people left in the gym as compared to the 400-500 people that showed up at the beginning of the night.

Still a fun night at the matches, but sheesh, it lasted about 3 1/2 hours.  Better too much than too little though.
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« Reply #47 on: June 07, 2009, 06:20:43 AM »
I've been to some shows that lasted too long.  There was an ECW taping way back in the day (the night RVD won the TV title) that went 4 hours.  The show was really good...but even with a fun/good taping going on I was burned out by the time it was over.

I've had that happen at RoH before too.

Even good shows can be hurt by overlong nights.

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« Reply #48 on: June 07, 2009, 06:27:27 AM »
Definitely agree w/ that.  When you're used to watching 2-3 hrs of wrestling on a nice comfy couch or chair, watching it on a hard chair or bleachers can become a test of endurance.

The exhausted exhale of the ring announcer after he wished everyone good night told the story.
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« Reply #49 on: June 07, 2009, 07:14:34 AM »
Way back 15-20 years ago, when I was only about 10 or 11 or so, some of those mass WWF and AWA TV tapings I went to were hard as hell to sit through, even as a young kid. I remember them doing a SuperStars taping in La Crosse, WI which went 4-5 hours, since they taped 3 or 4 hour long shows, plus put in a few dark competitive matches in between EACH hour of the TV taping. So it made for a really long night, essentially a house show card on top of squash match after squash match and lots of interview stuff too, on their interview podium and/or through Brother Love segments, etc. I think I went to two or three of those Superstars or Wrestling Challenge tapings back in the day.

Then those AWA tv tapings for ESPN, again, (used to go to these regularly in Rochester, MN) those were about the same but they at least started those on a Saturday afternoon early typically so you were out of there by 5pm and still had the rest of the night free.

Anyway looks like the next show I'll be checking out live is probably next Saturday, with another TNA house show (this will be the second one for me since they were nearby here in March) in Council Bluffs, IA. I hope they are doing a comparable lineup to what the last few weeks have been, but who knows what is the plan. If anyone knows of where to get any sort of lineup for this show (its this coming weekend) I'd like to see it.