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« on: May 16, 2009, 03:52:10 PM »
Looks like a solid card from top to bottom:

WWE Championship
The Viper Randy Orton (C) vs. Batista

Orton retains. No way he drops the title this fast.

World Heavyweight Championship
Edge (C) vs. Jeff Hardy

Edge retains with Hardy just a fill in challenger right now. After Edge retains, Punk cashes in the MITB and wins the title. If WWE really wants to go in a new direction and build stars, while getting their imput, what better way then to do it, with a hometown boy winning the world title.

ECW Championship
Christian (C) vs. Jack Swagger

Swagger wins the ECW title. It's close to One Night Stand, or whatever WWE calls it these days, and I see Dreamer doing it, and winning the title in due time.

John Cena vs. Big Show

Show wins. Isn't Cena suppose to be off filiming? If so, let Show completely destroy Cena.

Intercontinental Championship
Rey Mysterio (C) vs. Chris Jericho

Jericho wins the IC title. If it wasn't for the knee injury, I would see him retaining, but let's all hail the NINE time IC champion.

CM Punk vs. Umaga

Umaga def. Punk to flatten the crowd and make it less obvious that Punk will cash in the MITB.

John Morrison vs. Shelton Benjamin

Surprised this was added to the card over the US title. Morrison def. Benjamin and WWE proves they are seriously with Morrison's push.

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« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2009, 04:25:52 PM »
The absolute only reason I'm ordering this show is for ECW and SD. I've enjoyed both of those shows so much that I feel like I have to order this show just for those matches.

If those two RAW matches weren't on this show, I'd still be ordering this one.

Heck, I wish I could take the RAW matches off and replace them with another match from ECW and another one from SD.

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« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2009, 05:01:37 PM »
does Finlay ever wrestle on PPVs?  He's always in some kind of decent feud on ECW, but he rarely gets to blow them off on ppv.
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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2009, 02:16:03 AM »
does Finlay ever wrestle on PPVs?  He's always in some kind of decent feud on ECW, but he rarely gets to blow them off on ppv.

Its a shame...wudnt mind some sort of match with him against Kidd or Smith

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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2009, 03:12:08 AM »
Besides WM and the Rumble, Finlay had a match with Swagger at No Way Out this year.

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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2009, 03:27:38 AM »
Besides WM and the Rumble, Finlay had a match with Swagger at No Way Out this year.

Do they think Finlay's not good enough for PPV matches just because that one sucked?

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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2009, 05:59:15 AM »
I'm with Downhome on this one. I really have no interest in Orton-Batista or Cena-Show, but Jericho-Rey, Punk-Umaga, Benjamin-Morrison, Edge-Jeff(-Punk?), and Christian-Swagger have me strongly considering putting down some money tonight.

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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2009, 07:00:48 AM »
I hope they don't kill all the streams.

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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2009, 07:10:31 AM »
Same here. I want to see the show tonight, but PPVs are expensive, and the last show I bought was Unforgiven 08 and that made me not want to buy anymore PPVs

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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2009, 07:33:00 AM »
Just do what I do guys, don't watch the PPV and simply download it after, it'll only run 1.1 gig or so, which you can download while you're at work/school/while you wait tomorrow.

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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2009, 09:18:46 AM »
This is crazy, I've actually ordered every PPV so far this year, so I figure, why the hell not, this show looks pretty good.

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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2009, 09:48:37 AM »
just went through the PPV results from 08 and 09, and this is Finlays record.

wrestlemania '09- mitb (lost)
no way out '09- vs swagger for the ecw title (lost)
royal rumble '09- rumble (lost)
Armageddon '08- vs Mark Henry (win)
unforgiven '08- championship scramble (lost)
gab '08- 4 team match for the titles (lost) (w/ Hornswoggle)
night of champions '08- vs. miz and morrison for the tag titles (w/ Hornswoggle) (lost)
wrestlemania 08- vs JBL in a belfast brawl (lost)
no way out 08- smackdown/ecw elimination chamber (lost)

Just 1 win in 9 matches.  Though he was in multimen/team matches in 5 of those matches.  Twice he was in a tag team with Hornswoggle.
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« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2009, 10:00:29 AM »
It's like Finlay knows wrestling is fake, his age means his spot on the card is mostly permanent, and that losses won't hurt him. There's no conspiracy here, gang. Finlay sits in on booking meetings.

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« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2009, 10:05:10 AM »
He only has one win in nine matches because he obviously isn't that good at professional wrestling.

Why would WWE keep putting a guy on PPV if he always loses?

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« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2009, 10:06:12 AM »
Seeing that makes me  wonder what's the worst PPV record of all time--- almost has to be Tito Santana. I think the opener at the first WrestleMania was not only his only WrestleMania victory but his only PPV victory overall. Never won at a SummerSlam and I don't think he ever had a singles or tag match at Royal Rumble.

Why the hell is he in the WWE Hall of Fame if he lost so damn much ???

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« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2009, 10:12:13 AM »
He was the survivor in the Survivor Series 90 match. And his team won the Ultimate Finale match

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« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2009, 10:13:09 AM »
sorry that I thought they were trying to let new guys step up and yet they refuse to let one of their best hands actually get some steam built under him by actually showcasing him on ppvs.  honest mistake, won't happen again.  ::)
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« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2009, 10:15:58 AM »
Seeing that makes me  wonder what's the worst PPV record of all time--- almost has to be Tito Santana. I think the opener at the first WrestleMania was not only his only WrestleMania victory but his only PPV victory overall. Never won at a SummerSlam and I don't think he ever had a singles or tag match at Royal Rumble.

Why the hell is he in the WWE Hall of Fame if he lost so damn much ???
Same reason Koko B. Ware is in the HOF.

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« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2009, 10:17:01 AM »
sorry that I thought they were trying to let new guys step up and yet they refuse to let one of their best hands actually get some steam built under him by actually showcasing him on ppvs.  honest mistake, won't happen again.  ::)

Are we talking Finlay still? If so, he's hardly new, he's 51.

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« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2009, 10:20:31 AM »
because I'm sad:

Tito-

1-0 (wins at Wrestlemania)
2-0 (beats Don Muraco, Wrestling Classic)
2-0-1 (DCO Paul Orndorff, Wrestling Classic)
2-1-1 (w/ JYD loses to Funks, WM 2)
2-2-1 (w/ Bulldogs loses to Harts and Danny Davis, WM 3)
3-2-1 (w/Rick Martel, Bulldogs, Rougeaus, Young Stallions, Killer Bees defeats Islanders, Demolition, Bolsheviks, and Dream Team, SurS87)
3-3-1 (w/ Martel loses to Demoliton WM 4)
3-4-1 (w/Roberts, Scott Casey, Ken Patera, and Duggan lose to Andre, Rude, Bravo, Perfect, Race, SurS88)
3-5-1 (does not win RR 89)
3-6-1 (w/ Martel loses to Brainbusters WMV)
3-7-1 (w/Rockers loses to Martel and Rougeaus SumS89)
4-7-1 (w/Dusty, Beefcake and Rooster defeats Bossman, Martel, Bad News and Honky)
4-8-1 (does not win RR 90)
4-9-1 (loses to Barbarian WM VI)
4-10-1 (loses to Warlord SumS 90)
5-10-1 (w/ Volkoff and Bushwhackers defeats Slaughter, Orient Express and Zukov, SurS90)
6-10-1 (w/ Hogan and Warrior defeats Dibiase, Martel, Warlord, Power and Glory, SurS90)
6-11-1 (does not win RR 91)
6-12-1 (loses to Mountie, WM VII)
7-12-1 (w/ Slaughter, Duggan and Von Erich defeats Berzerker, Mustafa, Hercules, Skinner SurS 91)
7-13-1 (w/ Virgil loses to Repo Man and Dibiase TIT)
7-14-1 (does not win RR 92)
7-15-1 (loses to HBK, WMVIII)
7-16-1 (does not win RR 93)

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« Reply #20 on: May 17, 2009, 10:21:02 AM »
sorry that I thought they were trying to let new guys step up and yet they refuse to let one of their best hands actually get some steam built under him by actually showcasing him on ppvs.  honest mistake, won't happen again.  ::)

Are we talking Finlay still? If so, he's hardly new, he's 51.

I meant new as in someone who rarely ever gets pushed.  

and the first person that mentions anything that happened during his time as Hornswoggles dad is a gay communist.
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« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2009, 10:29:03 AM »
Seeing that makes me  wonder what's the worst PPV record of all time--- almost has to be Tito Santana. I think the opener at the first WrestleMania was not only his only WrestleMania victory but his only PPV victory overall. Never won at a SummerSlam and I don't think he ever had a singles or tag match at Royal Rumble.

He beat Don Muraco on what was actually the very first WWF PPV "The Wrestling Classic" in 1985.  The first Wrestlemania was closed circuit, not PPV.

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« Reply #22 on: May 17, 2009, 10:41:14 AM »
Seeing that makes me  wonder what's the worst PPV record of all time--- almost has to be Tito Santana. I think the opener at the first WrestleMania was not only his only WrestleMania victory but his only PPV victory overall. Never won at a SummerSlam and I don't think he ever had a singles or tag match at Royal Rumble.

Why the hell is he in the WWE Hall of Fame if he lost so damn much ???

man finlays ppv record make Tito look like Hulk Hogan.

just went through 2007 and Finlay accomplished the following:

07 armageddon- vs. Khali (win)
07 survivor series- vs. triple h, jeff hardy, rey mysterio and Kane (teaming with umaga, kennedy, mvp and vis) (lost)
07 cyber sunday- vs rey in a stretcher match (lost)
07 no mercy- vs rey (no contest)
07 summer slam- vs. kane (lost)
07 wrestlemania- mitb (lost)
07 no way out- vs. Boogeyman (lost) (featuring midgets)
07 royal rumble- rumble (lost)

So since the beginning of 2007 Finlay is 2-14-1
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« Reply #23 on: May 17, 2009, 10:49:38 AM »
Hey guys, let's chat.

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« Reply #24 on: May 17, 2009, 10:57:18 AM »
and finally 06

06 armageddon- vs. cena and batista (teaming with Booker) (lost)
06 survivor series- vs. cena, kane, lashley, rvd, and sabu (teaming with big show, mvp, test and umaga) (lost)
06 no mercy- vs. booker, lashley and batista (lost)
06 great american bash- vs. regal (won)
06 judgment day- vs. benoit (lost)
06 wrestlemania- mitb (lost)

for an overall WWE ppv record of 3-19-1
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« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2009, 11:02:07 AM »
I prefer posting in the threads to the chats, it's nice to have it for posterity.

So where can we watch said show if we don't feel like calling our local cable company to order now

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« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2009, 11:08:32 AM »
sorry that I thought they were trying to let new guys step up and yet they refuse to let one of their best hands actually get some steam built under him by actually showcasing him on ppvs.  honest mistake, won't happen again.  ::)

Are we talking Finlay still? If so, he's hardly new, he's 51.

I meant new as in someone who rarely ever gets pushed.  

and the first person that mentions anything that happened during his time as Hornswoggles dad is a gay communist.

Finlay's whole job detail is teaching new guys to work while putting them over. He doesn't need a push. Being Hornswoggle's dad turned out to be a huge reward for him because (I assume) he got a cut of some popular merchandise.

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« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2009, 11:10:05 AM »
I think because he's an agent, he also gets his expenses paid for. So that's gotta rule

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« Reply #28 on: May 17, 2009, 11:19:02 AM »
From what I saw, the opener looked really good and the crowd were very into it.

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« Reply #29 on: May 17, 2009, 11:19:28 AM »
Why does Vince hate hometowns?

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« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2009, 11:32:53 AM »
Crowd spent from the opener or just not really caring about this one?

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« Reply #31 on: May 17, 2009, 12:03:27 PM »
That fake laughing was REALLY annoying.

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« Reply #32 on: May 17, 2009, 12:11:58 PM »
I missed 2 of the matches I really wanted to see, but at least I can watch Jericho/Mysterio.

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« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2009, 12:20:58 PM »
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« Reply #34 on: May 17, 2009, 12:25:04 PM »
That was a really good match, great payoff with the 619

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« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2009, 12:26:10 PM »
DQ finish, hence the placement?

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« Reply #36 on: May 17, 2009, 12:26:46 PM »
Really good match.  I'd been waiting 7 years to see thee guys wrestle each other again.

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« Reply #37 on: May 17, 2009, 12:50:08 PM »
Batista with his patented impression of Kevin from Home Alone.

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« Reply #38 on: May 17, 2009, 12:51:22 PM »
Batista, Flair, and HHH vs. Legacy.

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« Reply #39 on: May 17, 2009, 12:51:44 PM »
Woooooooooooo

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« Reply #40 on: May 17, 2009, 01:30:21 PM »
So, Cena wins a match that Show dominated and he didn't get a post match beat down? Guess Cena isn't leaving just yet to shoot that movie. That said, he'll probably get taken out tomorrow night, or at Extreme Rules at the latest.

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« Reply #41 on: May 17, 2009, 01:36:55 PM »
I haven't heard anything official about Cena shooting another movie so soon

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« Reply #42 on: May 17, 2009, 01:47:11 PM »
Nice finish.  Now Punk, then Umaga.

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« Reply #43 on: May 17, 2009, 01:49:34 PM »
Nope!

Punk doing MITB would've been cool, but it'd be the same thing they did last year, and Edge needs a real title reign for once

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« Reply #44 on: May 17, 2009, 01:52:04 PM »
Good PPV overall. Edge/Hardy told a pretty good story, with Edge being smarter than Jeff and the latter of the two relying on risks to keep up. Just when he has him down in the end, he just HAD to go for one last high risk maneuver, and it cost him.

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« Reply #45 on: May 17, 2009, 02:05:03 PM »
i fell asleep during the main event and woke up to the show having already gone off the air.
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« Reply #46 on: May 17, 2009, 02:12:35 PM »
That's what happens when you fall asleep in the main event I guess

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« Reply #47 on: May 17, 2009, 02:17:08 PM »
must not have been a very long main event.  i was only asleep for like 10 minutes. :(
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« Reply #48 on: May 17, 2009, 02:32:34 PM »
The main event was 20

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« Reply #49 on: May 17, 2009, 02:43:35 PM »
The first half of this show was really damn good, and really only got slowed down in one spot/match overall, top to bottom a well done pay per view, much better than I thought it was going to be. Umaga/Punk was an excellent opener and probably even better than I expected. Swagger/Christian wasn't at the level of some of their other bouts, but it still told a story (and keeps a story going) good. Morrison/Benjamin was a really solid match as well, and the Miz segment even delivered for "segments that aren't matches but are on ppv anyway" standards. Felt like it was a ppv-calibur promo of sorts. And Rey/Jericho definately did end up being a hell of a match, my personal MOTN, although it could easily go to Hardy/Edge as well.

Flair most definately has to be coming back to the company now and will probably be working a match by the end of the summer at this rate, if not by Night of Champions perhaps, against Orton. You could tell he was "feeling it" by the response he got and it seems like they will be doing an Evolution Redux against Legacy, with Flair and HHH returning to the ring both within months here. I think they should still turn Batista at some point too, and Flair and HHH can both play effectively against a heel Batista also.

Other than the awesome unexpected Flair run-in, that title match was pretty awful though, seeing Orton go that chickenshit heel to the point of getting DQed versus actually being a sneaky and smart heel by picking the right spot and finally getting the win out of the rest of the match playing coward otherwise. There's a fine line there in effective heels (ironically, just ask Flair) and when you put Orton in that role of being too chickenshit that he has to slap a ref to get DQed, that's just stupid if you ask me. But all the same, hilarious that Batista keeps up that streak of being just schmozed out of a title win on ppv, and that same stupid look everytime after the bell finishes the match. I suppose a rematch will happen with some gimmick attached at the next ppv. Or they could rush Flair/HHH/Batista v. Legacy.

All the same, the Flair appearance was totally out of the blue and probably was the most significant thing of the night out of the show, signifying that rumored return "itch" is for real.

Cena/Show just plain was not good at all, was so ridiculously slow at times I wanted nothing more than to fast forward it, but I couldn't since I was watching it live. The match itself just seemed so forced and unenthusiastic or something in the way it was presented, especially how the announcers seemed to oversell the shit out of every single thing about it. This match was easily the low point of the show.

Edge/Hardy was a really strong match to close the show as the main event, I liked the finish alot, thankfully they didn't end the show with Cena/Show or even Batista/Orton, as this was main event level in execution in the ring, whereas Batista/Orton didn't have that, but had the Flair deal goin for it. And I've already said how bad Cena/Show was.