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Re: Nintendo Chatter v2
« Reply #450 on: January 13, 2017, 01:16:25 AM »
The hype train is a fucking smoldering pile of rubble at this point
I don't know where you're getting that from. The internet is overwhelmingly hyped about it.

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Re: Nintendo Chatter v2
« Reply #451 on: January 13, 2017, 01:32:11 AM »
Not impressed at all really.

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Re: Nintendo Chatter v2
« Reply #452 on: January 13, 2017, 02:03:08 AM »
I'm intrigued, but not intrigued enough to pre-order. I'm going to wait and see if the third-party support holds true. That said, a new Xenoblade and a new Zelda are very interesting to me.

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Re: Nintendo Chatter v2
« Reply #453 on: January 13, 2017, 02:04:47 AM »
It's too expensive for the system and accessories. Plus, they're going to charge for online.
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Re: Nintendo Chatter v2
« Reply #454 on: January 13, 2017, 02:38:06 AM »
I missed that it's also getting No More Heroes 3. :D

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Re: Nintendo Chatter v2
« Reply #455 on: January 13, 2017, 03:59:13 AM »
It's too expensive for the system and accessories. Plus, they're going to charge for online.
Just like how Sony charges you for its Network services. I doubt it is charging you for you to actually be online.

All in all, that's a solid lineup to start the console. Get some true third party support and you pretty much will see a shit ton of these around the world, because fuck it. If I can game on the go, I prefer that.

Also someone's going to invent a battery pack for it so you can have more than 3-5 hours. Probably Nintendo themselves. They aren't stupid. They'll make sure all accessories cost you so that they make even more bank.

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Re: Nintendo Chatter v2
« Reply #456 on: January 13, 2017, 04:10:43 AM »
I'm'a probably pre-order.  I never got into the Mario 64 / Galaxy games, so Super Mario Odyssey likely won't be for me.  Hyped up for Splatoon 2, though.

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« Reply #457 on: January 13, 2017, 04:15:27 AM »
Also someone's going to invent a battery pack for it so you can have more than 3-5 hours. Probably Nintendo themselves. They aren't stupid. They'll make sure all accessories cost you so that they make even more bank.

Seems like you could use a battery pack with USB Type-C connection, which already exist. (See here.) Though I'm sure companies will slap Switch branding on one and sell it at a premium.

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« Reply #458 on: January 13, 2017, 04:49:14 AM »
So are you guys still excited about this or not?

I don't trust Nintendo, still so I haven't bought a system for myself since the Wii. I actually barely touched the Wii except for classic games and bought my son a WiiU for this past birthday. Hopefully I can get some mileage out of it before he notices the Switch and wants it. Of course by the time he's old enough for that he'll probably graduate to a more adult system and not more silly Nintendo BS.
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Re: Nintendo Chatter v2
« Reply #459 on: January 13, 2017, 05:10:51 AM »
The hype train is a fucking smoldering pile of rubble at this point
I don't know where you're getting that from. The internet is overwhelmingly hyped about it.

My own personal hype train. I'll throw together a whole bunch of my comments from it last night, although it'll probably just look like a giant mess when it's all thrown together into one paragraph.

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I came into the conference pretty damn hyped. I was almost locked in to buying one. Now? I'm not even mad, I'm just depressed.  It feels like two completely different companies handled the reveal trailer and the trainwreck last night. The reveal trailer made a very clear choice to not show any kind of motion controls or touch screen stuff, trying to make it look like Nintendo's most "normal" console since the Gamecube. Then last night they LEAD OFF with motion control and "HD Rumble." The fact that they thought it was a strong point to start with shows how much of a focus it'll be in this system, and that sounds like something I just don't want any part of.  I don't know about you, but I don't want to ever use a singular Joycon. There is absolutely no way that thing is comfortable for anyone over the age of 14 to use. I either want to use the tablet as a whole or use the Pro controller, preferably the Pro controller.  I honestly feel like this might be an even bigger misstep than Microsoft's original Xbox One reveal. At least Microsoft had a reason to be super cocky considering how much the 360 dominated the previous generation. For Nintendo this seemed like a legitimate chance for them to recover from the dumpster fire that was the Wii U, but instead they double down on far too many of the same core components that doomed the Wii U from the beginning. Some people are complaining about the power, or lack thereof, but that isn't really the issue. Nintendo hasn't been in the business of trying to compete with the other consoles on a power level since the SNES and hasn't really cared about third party support since then either. Nintendo is in the business of making a day 1 profitable console that is good for playing Nintendo games on, and if any other third parties climb aboard, great.  The issue is all the stupid gimmicks. IT DISCONNECTS FROM YOUR TV AND WORKS ON THE GO, that's the only freakin gimmick it needed. I don't need to play Rock Paper Scissors with something the size of two bite sized candy bars. I don't need improved rumble and I sure as hell don't need an added emphasis on motion controls. It's incredible how far Nintendo has fallen when it comes to controller design from the Wavebird, one of the greatest of all time.  Nintendo needs to give up on attempting to recreate the Wii. The casual players are gone! They've moved on to phones and they're NEVER coming back! Concentrate on people who actually want to buy your products. We're not in a world where "well it's Nintendo" is enough on it's own to get people's money, and we haven't been in a long time. The sooner Nintendo realizes this the better.

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Re: Nintendo Chatter v2
« Reply #460 on: January 13, 2017, 05:29:16 AM »
My ultimate dream is for Nintendo to go the way of Sega so I can play Zelda and Mario on a real console with a real controller.
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Re: Nintendo Chatter v2
« Reply #461 on: January 13, 2017, 09:18:05 AM »
That Mario game is a little triggering. I feel like having a WiiU was a complete waste.


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Re: Nintendo Chatter v2
« Reply #462 on: January 13, 2017, 11:23:05 AM »
I wasn't especially excited before, so it's a relatively minor step down from "probably not gonna buy that" to "lol no". I haven't been satisfied by a Nintendo system since N64. Maybe DS Lite, though only because it's been a Picross and Brain Age Sudoku machine. Switch's main feature of easy portability doesn't mean much to me; it would probably stay docked most of the time.

Before yesterday, I didn't really consider how much I'd pay for a Switch. I do know $450 taxed is way too much. Plus bogus accessory prices, plus potential online service, plus game prices that decline at a much lower rate, plus more than 32 GB storage in the unlikely event I'd buy their digital games.

Though I bought a Wii U for $150 and didn't use it at all. Got a 3DS for $30 and a few cheap traded games, and later a 3DS XL for $100; only really used either for the weaker front half of Super Mario 3D Land, and A Link Between Worlds. Only recently got a PS4 for under $250, and am not using that so far either. So my personal sense of what these things are worth is probably skewed.

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Re: Nintendo Chatter v2
« Reply #463 on: January 13, 2017, 11:50:00 AM »
Man I haven't been all in with a Nintendo system since SNES.  Every system since then found a way to disappoint me.
The Gamecube was the biggest disappointment for me, but I hated the Wii a lot too. I felt like the motion controls made Skyward Sword unplayable.

My son plays the WiiU because it's his. I haven't given it an honest shot but I have no desire too. I think about WiiU games I want to play but overall I'm just meh about it all.
I'd say I could play VC but even then I think those games are better left as childhood nostalgia.
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Re: Nintendo Chatter v2
« Reply #464 on: January 13, 2017, 02:40:07 PM »
Parents are going to kill their kids if they lose the JoyCons and have to shell out fucking $80 to replace them. 

I'm betting this turns out like the 3DS and this thing is $250 by Christmas.  Then I might look into this.

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Re: Nintendo Chatter v2
« Reply #465 on: January 14, 2017, 02:49:37 AM »
So is it true that the free games will only be available the month they are free and then you have to pay to use it past that month? If so that's shitty. Nintendo can't get out of their own way with this silly bullshit.

I just want to play Mario and Zelda on a normal system with a normal controller like I could back in the day. But they insist on gimmicky bullshit.
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Re: Nintendo Chatter v2
« Reply #466 on: January 14, 2017, 03:41:50 AM »
I just want to play Mario and Zelda on a normal system with a normal controller like I could back in the day. But they insist on gimmicky bullshit.
If you didn't play Twilight Princess on the Gamecube, get it for the WiiU.

The only game at launch I want to play is Zelda and if its going to be the same game on the WiiU, I'll probably hold off.  I never trust Nintendo's release dates, so I'm not confident the only other games I really care about (Splatoon, Mario) will come out when they say it will.  Arms kind of looks interesting, too, I guess.

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Re: Nintendo Chatter v2
« Reply #467 on: January 14, 2017, 08:34:11 AM »
So is it true that the free games will only be available the month they are free and then you have to pay to use it past that month? If so that's shitty. Nintendo can't get out of their own way with this silly bullshit.

I just want to play Mario and Zelda on a normal system with a normal controller like I could back in the day. But they insist on gimmicky bullshit.

Yep, you're renting them for a month.
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Re: Nintendo Chatter v2
« Reply #468 on: January 14, 2017, 09:09:01 AM »
I unfortunately played Twilight Princess on Wii. I got through it but Skyward Sword was just so unplayable.
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Re: Nintendo Chatter v2
« Reply #469 on: January 30, 2017, 11:58:43 AM »
Got my hands on an NES Classic.  I can see why crazy people would plunk down 2-3x the price for one as it is a massive nostalgia dose.  Now I'll finally get around to play the original Metroid though I spent the most time today playing Tecmo Bowl surprisingly.

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Re: Nintendo Chatter v2
« Reply #470 on: February 01, 2017, 07:33:40 AM »
So there's a program out there that will let you put basically the entire NES library on the Classic, but I'm a weenie when it comes to that stuff and I'm afraid I'll brick the damn thing. 

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Re: Nintendo Chatter v2
« Reply #471 on: February 02, 2017, 06:48:20 PM »
Get a pre owned Wii they're easy as shit to hack and you can get NES Super NES Genesis and Game Boy emulators easily. The NES Classic controller plugs into the wiimote. Idk why anyone wasted money on the classic to begin with.

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Re: Nintendo Chatter v2
« Reply #472 on: February 02, 2017, 10:33:47 PM »
Well because not everyone knows how to hack a Wii and add emulators to it or where to even start to do such a thing.
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Re: Nintendo Chatter v2
« Reply #473 on: February 03, 2017, 09:05:25 AM »
I like the NES Mini because it's a novelty item.
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Re: Nintendo Chatter v2
« Reply #474 on: February 03, 2017, 11:00:25 AM »
Well it didn't work anyway.  Oh well.

$60 for 30 old games (a dozen of which are genuine classics) in a cute little miniature shell that seems to be on its way to being a collector's item if they don't put more out, is a great deal.

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Re: Nintendo Chatter v2
« Reply #475 on: February 14, 2017, 06:18:24 AM »
Zelda: Breath of the Wild will have a $20 DLC "Expansion Pass".

http://www.zelda.com/breath-of-the-wild/news/special-announcement-from-eiji-aonuma/

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Re: Nintendo Chatter v2
« Reply #476 on: February 14, 2017, 08:24:25 AM »
Like I knew Nintendo would get on the whole season pass bandwagon but it feels so wrong.
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Re: Nintendo Chatter v2
« Reply #477 on: February 17, 2017, 12:37:40 AM »
They had tested those waters on a few Wii U games already, so this shouldn't be a huge shock to anyone, IMO.

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Re: Nintendo Chatter v2
« Reply #478 on: February 17, 2017, 12:55:25 AM »

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Re: Nintendo Chatter v2
« Reply #479 on: February 18, 2017, 01:54:36 PM »
Well it didn't work anyway.  Oh well.

It worked this time.  Now to finally play through the Dragon Warrior series.

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Re: Nintendo Chatter v2
« Reply #480 on: February 23, 2017, 04:47:39 AM »
The Switch won't have the Virtual Console at launch.  Not even the shit they've already released will be available.

What the fuck?  I think they seriously think Zelda is enough for the hardcore and 1-2-Switch will be Wii Sports popular.

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« Reply #481 on: February 23, 2017, 05:26:11 AM »
I'm sorry. I know I've had this opinion before and I know it's not popular around here but I sure hope the Switch is a massive failure. I'm tired of Nintendo's gimmick shit.
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« Reply #482 on: February 23, 2017, 05:40:46 AM »
I echo a previous statement, would love for Nintendo to go the way of Sega and just make the games. Haven't bought a Nintendo console since GameCube, would love to do play some Mario, Zelda and such but just not enough to drop the coin on one of the systems.

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Re: Nintendo Chatter v2
« Reply #483 on: February 23, 2017, 06:29:12 AM »
I'm sorry. I know I've had this opinion before and I know it's not popular around here but I sure hope the Switch is a massive failure. I'm tired of Nintendo's gimmick shit.

Their pre-order numbers suggest otherwise. That being said, I think that Nintendo takes alternative routes in an effort to innovate is a good thing, even if the hardcore gamer just sees them as gimmicks. I'd rather a gimmicky Nintendo than them just be another console that has all the same games/gameplay as Sony and MS..


As far as the VC goes.. well, if you really want to play VC games, right now, I can build you an HDMI capable RetroPie mini with perfect emulation for under $30 USD. :P

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Re: Nintendo Chatter v2
« Reply #484 on: February 23, 2017, 06:39:12 AM »
I *want* the Switch to be a success, because more viable options is always a good thing.  I just don't think it will be with everything they've shown about it so far.   Obviously the pre-order numbers are gonna look good.  It's a Nintendo console with a Zelda at launch and a Mario on the horizon.  It was never NOT gonna sell out at launch.   It's just a matter as to what they can do after that.

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« Reply #485 on: February 23, 2017, 06:39:50 AM »
But if Nintendo had a system on the level of PS/XBox I'd be falling all over myself to give them all of my money to play their 1st party games. 
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Re: Nintendo Chatter v2
« Reply #486 on: February 24, 2017, 05:22:24 AM »
I mean, what does it need to have to be on the "level" of PS/Xbox for you? More TFLOPS and GDDR Ram? None of that stuff really makes a difference, tbh, when it comes to first party Nintendo games. Personally, I've always viewed Nintendo as it's own ecosystem within the gaming industry. It's a different experience versus that of the standard consoles and I kinda value that that alternative exists.

I should note that I did not pre-order a Switch, but that I will more than likely be picking one up within the year, once I have enough time to actually sit down and play it.

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« Reply #487 on: February 24, 2017, 06:54:47 AM »
I'm in the camp of I MAY pick up a Switch before the end of the year, depending on what it's looking like game-wise between now and then, which is a step down from before the official unveiling when I was definitely going to try and get one day one.

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Re: Nintendo Chatter v2
« Reply #488 on: February 24, 2017, 07:00:38 AM »
I did not pre-order either, but will likely get one in time for Splatoon 2.

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Re: Nintendo Chatter v2
« Reply #489 on: February 24, 2017, 12:09:29 PM »
I mean, what does it need to have to be on the "level" of PS/Xbox for you? More TFLOPS and GDDR Ram? None of that stuff really makes a difference, tbh, when it comes to first party Nintendo games. Personally, I've always viewed Nintendo as it's own ecosystem within the gaming industry. It's a different experience versus that of the standard consoles and I kinda value that that alternative exists.

I should note that I did not pre-order a Switch, but that I will more than likely be picking one up within the year, once I have enough time to actually sit down and play it.

I think what most people mean is having actual third party support. Back in the '90's Nintendo had the best first and third party games:
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Now Nintendo still produces quality games but that's basically it when it comes to the Wii/Wii U. Sony has God of War, Journey, MLB: The Show, and all these third party games, it makes their system more impressive.
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Re: Nintendo Chatter v2
« Reply #490 on: February 24, 2017, 01:33:38 PM »
I did not pre-order either, but will likely get one in time for Splatoon 2.
This is basically where I am. It'll be the first Nintendo system I haven't bought at launch since the DS but the only game I want to play on it I can play on a system I already have.

I don't want a Nintendo system that's exactly the same as other systems. I can understand why people don't like the "gimmicks", but I like that there's a company out there trying to do something different with video games.

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« Reply #491 on: February 25, 2017, 01:26:33 AM »
Why do we need to do something different with video games? They're fine the way they are.
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Re: Nintendo Chatter v2
« Reply #492 on: February 26, 2017, 02:01:06 PM »
Things always need to evolve.

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« Reply #493 on: February 27, 2017, 08:19:56 AM »
Looks like Nintendo's doing a soft launch now for the hardcore fan crowd and then gradually expecting the general public/skeptics to pick it up over the course of the year as more titles appear and most likely close to the holidays when Mario Odyssey comes out.

I can't realistically see myself getting it before then, unless that Spike Chunsoft announcement this week really is them saying they're releasing a new Fire Pro Wrestling for the Switch as has been speculated.

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Re: Nintendo Chatter v2
« Reply #494 on: March 02, 2017, 04:39:56 AM »
So the new Zelda seems to be crushing it in terms of reviews. 98 on Metacritic after 56 reviews (last I saw) with all of them pretty much saying "yeah, Nintendo just raised the bar on open world games". Which is deep praise since Witcher 3 supposedly just did that (which I haven't played yet).

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« Reply #495 on: March 02, 2017, 07:14:41 AM »
For the eternity it spent in development, it had better be nothing short of a masterpiece.

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« Reply #496 on: March 02, 2017, 08:52:31 AM »
I'm very sad I won't get to play the new Zelda. *sigh*
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Re: Nintendo Chatter v2
« Reply #497 on: March 02, 2017, 08:58:43 AM »
Buy a Wii U.

The last few console Zelda game have all gotten great reviews and then some time has passed and people seem to cool off on them.

I can't remember the last game I was this excited to play, though.

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« Reply #498 on: March 02, 2017, 10:08:11 PM »
My son has a Wii U. I don't really want to sit in his room and play on his tiny TV.
Plus my living room is set up in a way I can't be directly in front of the tv or sensor bar.
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Re: Nintendo Chatter v2
« Reply #499 on: March 03, 2017, 12:31:36 AM »
Why do we need to do something different with video games? They're fine the way they are.
Are you sure you're not 65+ years old? ;)

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