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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #100 on: July 24, 2013, 06:53:32 AM »
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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #101 on: July 24, 2013, 10:54:04 AM »
Grizz are gonna get Mike Miller. They need shooters, but I feel like they are gambling on a 33 year old who hasn't played 70 games in any of his last five seasons.


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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #102 on: July 24, 2013, 11:16:20 AM »
Grizz are gonna get Mike Miller. They need shooters, but I feel like they are gambling on a 33 year old who hasn't played 70 games in any of his last five seasons.

And because of that the Thunder re-signed Fisher.
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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #103 on: July 25, 2013, 12:51:50 AM »
Wouldn't the Grizz just use Miller the way the Heat did, i.e. only when they absolutely need extra shooting?

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #104 on: July 25, 2013, 02:43:23 AM »
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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #105 on: July 25, 2013, 03:49:14 AM »
Wouldn't the Grizz just use Miller the way the Heat did, i.e. only when they absolutely need extra shooting?

Grizzlies have a much more pressing need for outside shooting that Miami, so he'll likely be asked to shoulder a greater work load.

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #106 on: July 25, 2013, 07:52:03 AM »


LOL a big man who claims to be adding size works out like the regular meathead... I see him making it to 21 games before a serious calf, hamstring, or quad injury takes ends his season.  :(

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #107 on: July 25, 2013, 08:48:51 AM »
Wouldn't the Grizz just use Miller the way the Heat did, i.e. only when they absolutely need extra shooting?

Grizzlies have a much more pressing need for outside shooting that Miami, so he'll likely be asked to shoulder a greater work load.

Well, they made it pretty far without that extra outside presence. And while a strong perimeter offense is nice, if the Grizzlies want to go in that direction, I'd rather it come from someone or someones that isn't gimpy-kneed and balky-backed.

That said, I'm fine with Miller on the team as long as his minutes are strictly limited. Which I hope for here.

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #109 on: July 25, 2013, 11:46:10 AM »
At least he ain't no dickrider

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #110 on: July 25, 2013, 12:04:07 PM »

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #111 on: July 25, 2013, 12:11:35 PM »
People do understand that it came down to OKC choosing Ibaka over Harden, right?

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #112 on: July 25, 2013, 12:27:51 PM »
That makes it even worse

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #113 on: July 25, 2013, 12:30:08 PM »
Nah, it came down to their owners being tightwad bastards. Check out those dudes who own the team and tell me they couldn't afford both for a couple years.


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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #114 on: July 25, 2013, 12:32:34 PM »
They offered Harden but he wouldnt sign for less than the max as I understand it.
But I agree. They traded him. I dont understand why people are butthurt at him and not the team.
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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #115 on: July 26, 2013, 06:53:53 AM »
Its because he wouldn't sign for less being the problem. Because he wouldn't accept taking a little less, people hate him and not the team.

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #116 on: July 26, 2013, 12:31:40 PM »
He refused to take $13 million coming off of the bench. But at some point, they had to move him into the starting lineup to justify that type of money.  Both Durant and Westbrook are maxed out. If you extrapolated their per-36 stats, Harden and Westbrook were neck and neck in 2011. Exactly why shouldn't Harden demand the max in that case?

It's not exactly as if the Thunder are suffering, but they're giving Ibaka $12.5 million and Perkins $9 mil per to put up pedestrian numbers. That money could've gone to Harden, but the Thunder likely made the only choice they could. OKC hit the lottery drafting three under-24 All-Stars in consecutive years, who all deserve max contracts. I can't imagine a team getting that lucky again with their drafting.




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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #117 on: July 26, 2013, 12:48:10 PM »
Part of the problem is that the Thunder ownership want to be the Spurs and are trying to recreate the Spurs. The Spurs have one of the greatest coaches and power forwards ever and two other unselfish superstars (though one is done now). You arent recreating it!
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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #118 on: July 26, 2013, 01:46:14 PM »
I'm not saying that Harden didn't deserve his money. Totally justified. Just saying how the regular fan would look at it.

Also, if they really wanted to re-create the Spurs, or even the Heat, you need your star players not to sign for max contracts. That little bit of extra money can go a long way.

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #119 on: July 26, 2013, 01:56:33 PM »
Depends on whether you trust your front office not to hand out stupid contracts to role players and 6'10" scrubs.

LeBron, Wade and Bosh all signed on the dotted line on (or around) the same day for essentially the same figure. They took all of the guesswork away from the front office and forced them to hand out the veteran-minimum to others. Perhaps Durant takes less than the max when he extends in 2010, but that doesn't preclude OKC from maxing out Westbrook or Harden when they demand it after the fact.

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #120 on: July 26, 2013, 02:16:10 PM »
Yeah, its kind of a give and take there, I do admit and it would need to be a two way street. I just mean that if you are going to try recreate them though, you do need to be in sync. Probably what I should said in the first place.

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #121 on: July 26, 2013, 05:57:09 PM »
If I'm Durant, I look elsewhere. Go wherever Kyrie Irving ends up.

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #122 on: July 27, 2013, 04:07:40 AM »
Luis Scola to Indiana for Gerald Green and a future draft pick.

Scola and Granger are a very strong second unit in Indiana.

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #123 on: July 27, 2013, 06:09:46 AM »
Suns also got Miles Plumlee.  The draft pick is next year's first round pick but lottery.
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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #124 on: July 27, 2013, 08:06:38 AM »
Mahimni-Scola-Granger-Copeland-Watson is a good bench - wouldn't be surprised if Granger's expiring is dealt for Afflalo and another pie e, though. Then Afflalo starts and Lance is off the bench.
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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #125 on: July 27, 2013, 01:45:38 PM »
Pacers look ridiculous on paper now.  Dammit. 

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #126 on: July 28, 2013, 07:43:34 AM »
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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #127 on: July 28, 2013, 10:33:14 AM »
Camby signed one year with Houston.

Don't worry, this isn't retirement tour.  He has said he wants to play 20 seasons.

Also, the Hawks picked up Gustavo Ayon off waivers.
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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #128 on: July 29, 2013, 03:27:08 PM »
Thunder sign Ryan Gomes to a one-year deal
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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #129 on: July 30, 2013, 12:28:38 AM »
Thunder sign Ryan Gomes to a one-year deal

Well there's the answer to our problems! Cheap-ass owners.
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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #130 on: July 30, 2013, 09:12:03 AM »
Looks like Detroit has gotten Brandon Jennings. Giving up Brandon Knight, Middleton, and some Russian sounding dude.

I'm good with this.

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #131 on: July 30, 2013, 09:45:19 AM »
All those dudes Detroit traded suck but how much money are they going to be paying Jennings

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #132 on: July 30, 2013, 10:00:55 AM »
Don't know but I can't wait to watch the Pistons next year. Straight out swaggin'.


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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #133 on: July 30, 2013, 10:03:31 AM »
3 years, $24 mil I hear.

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #134 on: July 30, 2013, 10:08:06 AM »
3 years, $24 mil I hear.

That sounds alright by me. Is have expected a little more

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #135 on: July 30, 2013, 11:39:50 AM »
Don't know but I can't wait to watch the Pistons next year. Straight out swaggin'.

Last year's Grizzlies with more dunks and even less outside shooting. They're gonna blow some bad teams out of the water and probably get wrecked by most of the good ones. Could finish as high as 6th in the terrible no good Eastern Conference.

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #136 on: July 30, 2013, 11:40:45 AM »
Also either Chauncey Billups or Greg Monroe will lead the team in assists.

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #137 on: July 30, 2013, 03:32:09 PM »
the Brandon they traded was garbage.  not a PG worth starting, not a SG......maybe he'll develop his game more, but not at the Pistons expense

Brandon Jennings has mad skills.  I've watched him take over games and just go nuts.  His shooting percent is shit, but he's got a solid A to TO ratio, and his 3 pt shot has become solid.....I like his game.  And he's nasty quick

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #138 on: July 30, 2013, 03:42:07 PM »
Smith and Jennigs.....damn, might have to watch Pistons games

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #139 on: July 31, 2013, 02:12:13 AM »
Some people are saying the Pistons gave up on Knight too early. I'm not one of them. I mean, he plays hard and can shoot the 3 a bit, but I didn't have much faith he would get better.

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #140 on: July 31, 2013, 02:40:25 AM »
While I don't believe that Brandon Jennings is going to be a major part on a contending team, he's an easy upgrade over Knight.  He has to feed those bigs.  If he doesn't, he's a failure in Detroit.  Greg Monroe seems like the type of player who can contribute under any system and complement all sorts of different teammates.

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #141 on: July 31, 2013, 07:06:51 AM »
The best part about this offseason for the Pistons is that while they may not markedly improve in the win-loss column, at least now they don't have a roster full of boring, inconsequential sad sacks and cast-offs. Swapping Tayshaun Prince and Brandon Knight for Josh Smith and Brandon Jennings will vastly help the team's Q Score, if nothing else.

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #142 on: July 31, 2013, 07:45:37 AM »
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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #143 on: August 02, 2013, 02:16:49 AM »
I guess Greg Oden is going to make his decision today. I bet he picks Miami. And because the universe hates me he will stay healthy the entire season and play at the caliber he was supposed to play at when drafted.
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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #144 on: August 02, 2013, 02:28:59 AM »
That would be awesome if it happened, how dare you wish for someone to be permanently injured.


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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #145 on: August 02, 2013, 02:32:26 AM »
That would be awesome if it happened, how dare you wish for someone to be permanently injured.

Not like it would happen. Lebron keeps chugging along despite my repeated wishes for a career-ender.
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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #146 on: August 02, 2013, 04:29:07 AM »
I guess Greg Oden is going to make his decision today. I bet he picks Miami. And because the universe hates me he will stay healthy the entire season and play at the caliber he was supposed to play at when drafted.

Miami, where useless centers go to collect rings.

Honestly though, I think he would be a good fit for the Spurs. Pop would be the best coach for him and there wouldn't be too much pressure on him to play huge.
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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #147 on: August 04, 2013, 06:42:23 PM »
Mark Cuban released the video they used during their presentation to Dwight Howard.  It's in this blog entry.

http://blogmaverick.com/2013/08/03/lets-talk-mavs-mffl/

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #148 on: August 04, 2013, 11:25:16 PM »
You know, I'm kinda hoping Ol' Oden manages to succeed, even after all those surgeries. Even if it is with Miami.

So which team does everyone think has the most intriguing roster so far?

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread - Part 2
« Reply #149 on: August 05, 2013, 12:11:13 AM »
I guess reading some articles it sounds like Oden is barely going to play until late in the season/playoffs.
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