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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2009, 09:03:05 AM »
WTF.

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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2009, 09:03:13 AM »
Yeah, just about to post that.

"More to come" = drug failure.

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« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2009, 09:06:15 AM »
http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/10461872

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« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2009, 09:08:13 AM »
Ya..with Batista winning the WWE title last night and Kennedy and Umaga being fired, I might be done with the WWE for a while.

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« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2009, 09:12:16 AM »
Wow---I don't think anyone could say that they saw this coming.

And I know it's brought up often in threads about guys getting released from the E but I'd really like to see Umaga sign with TNA.

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« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2009, 09:13:39 AM »
Yeah, just about to post that.

"More to come" = drug failure.
They usually announce test failures. Still, something had to have gone down for him to go like this.

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« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2009, 09:22:29 AM »
Sucks for anyone that took him in fantasy. The month just started.  I wouldn't mind him in TNA but not really as Umaga. Maybe a different character all together.
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« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2009, 09:26:00 AM »
Hopefully TNA can call him Umanga.
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« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2009, 09:27:39 AM »
Sucks for anyone that took him in fantasy. The month just started.  I wouldn't mind him in TNA but not really as Umaga. Maybe a different character all together.
He was in TNA as Ekmo. I'd love to see him and Samoa Joe pound the shit out of each other.

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« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2009, 09:31:27 AM »
Sucks for anyone that took him in fantasy. The month just started.  I wouldn't mind him in TNA but not really as Umaga. Maybe a different character all together.
He was in TNA as Ekmo. I'd love to see him and Samoa Joe pound the shit out of each other.

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« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2009, 09:33:20 AM »
Can you imagine Umaga, Joe and Tazz at the buffet backstage in TNA? They'd eat them out of business.

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« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2009, 09:34:27 AM »
He can go to TNA and be "The Samoan Spike Machine" Samoa Jamal.

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« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2009, 09:38:59 AM »
Was his contract up soon? There has to be something beyond just another drug test failure here. Or maybe not as perhaps he got strike three with all of that.

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« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2009, 09:39:17 AM »
Sucks for anyone that took him in fantasy. The month just started.  I wouldn't mind him in TNA but not really as Umaga. Maybe a different character all together.
He was in TNA as Ekmo. I'd love to see him and Samoa Joe pound the shit out of each other.

Gaaay.
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« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2009, 09:49:57 AM »
Good. I don't care much for Umaga, at least WWE's character

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« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2009, 09:50:52 AM »
Good. I don't care much for Umaga, at least WWE's character

I didn't care much for the cliche character at all either, but I'll be damned if he didn't impress me with a hell of a great workrate.

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« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2009, 09:58:39 AM »
He can go to TNA and be "The Samoan Spike Machine" Samoa Jamal.

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« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2009, 10:03:04 AM »
He can go to TNA and be "The Samoan Spike Machine" Samoa Jamal.

Maybe he can just be Samoa Joe's little brother Samoa Spike and come to the ring on a tricycle wearing a beanie copter.
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« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2009, 10:19:16 AM »
I hated him initially, but he really grew on me after the series with Cena. I'm not that disappointed with his release, though, and I get the feeling that they would have had trouble finding him stuff to do after the Punk feud. At least they had him talk before he left.

And I know they were on different shows for a long time, but I'm surprised they never pulled the trigger on an Umaga-Taker program. Umaga's character practically requires the token Undertaker feud.

This has nothing to do with anything really, but I was reading JR's Q&A on his site a week or so ago, and someone asked JR if he thought that Umaga might win a World Title one day. Normally, you'd expect JR to just give the 'Anything could happen!' type answer, but he basically flat out said 'I don't think so.' or something. I thought it was strange, anyway.

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« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2009, 10:41:51 AM »
I was surprised to read the news when I got home.  I was expecting Umaga to be one of those upper midcard heels who could work JTTS duty when needed on Smackdown.

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« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2009, 11:18:46 AM »
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« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2009, 11:19:26 AM »
I was surprised to read the news when I got home.  I was expecting Umaga to be one of those upper midcard heels who could work JTTS duty when needed on Smackdown.


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« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2009, 12:10:10 PM »
Wow, this is the most shocking release since Kennedy.

Seriously, I would have never guessed the first two releases since WM would be Kennedy and Umaga.

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« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2009, 02:58:43 PM »
This is how you repay the man for finally learning English?

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« Reply #25 on: June 08, 2009, 03:04:41 PM »
This is how you repay the man for finally learning English?
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« Reply #26 on: June 08, 2009, 03:07:41 PM »
Sucks.  The character was a nice throwback 70's-80's style and he was great at portraying it in the ring.  Never reached it's full potential either, he totally drifted after the lackluster push killing "feud" with HHH.  Programs with Undertaker, Big Show, Mark Henry and maybe a lackey role under Edge leading to a face turn and title program to occupy some dead months on Smackdown all would have been welcome.

He'd be a good addition to TNA, but WWE won't let them go anywhere near the Umaga character, and I don't know how effective he'd be without that.  In the right role, yeah, he could be even better, but I'm not counting on TNA to hit a home run.

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« Reply #27 on: June 08, 2009, 03:47:44 PM »
Umaga character? The WWE can't copywrite "Agile Samoan Savage Guy." Which is essence is what he was, this isn't like a Rikishi where he had a definitive thing he did. Everything that made Umaga work was the way he moved in the ring, which he'll still have.

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« Reply #28 on: June 08, 2009, 03:58:28 PM »
The general look and the mannerisms of the character........the face paint and ring attire, yelling "SAMOA!" before a big move, guarantee that shit is trademarked and will be off limits for TNA

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« Reply #29 on: June 08, 2009, 07:26:58 PM »
Today's F4W mentions that Umaga is claiming he quit, but then there's also a bunch of drug testing stuff and hints about this and that in regards to developmental releases. Basically, it's a lot of "details are sketchy and/or became available right before we went to press", so I guess the WON will be pretty exciting this week.

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« Reply #30 on: June 08, 2009, 07:36:27 PM »
I'm guessing they offered him rehab or something along those lines and he just requested a release instead.

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« Reply #31 on: June 08, 2009, 07:43:44 PM »
I should clarify the drug testing comments were in regards to Batista's mysterious injury that required no tape while he was working yet is severe enough for surgery.

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« Reply #32 on: June 08, 2009, 10:47:46 PM »
Well, that came out of nowhere. Just as he'd come back too. Makes you wonder if there was a reason why Umaga was off TV for so long between his first comeback where he was squashing Funaki and the Punk attack.

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« Reply #33 on: June 09, 2009, 02:23:10 AM »
The general look and the mannerisms of the character........the face paint and ring attire, yelling "SAMOA!" before a big move, guarantee that shit is trademarked and will be off limits for TNA

But the ring attire is typical "Samoan guy" gimmick for the last twenty years, the only thing I could see them going after is the face paint design itself. The mannerisms? This isn't the Undertaker we are talking about, Umaga was doing what the Headshrinkers where doing, which is pretty broad stroke "savage" stuff. Take out the word Samoa insert something random in Samoan and it's the same.

Hell have Ekmo show up in TNA and cut one promo not directly against WWE, but along the lines of, "You people thought I was savage before? Lemme show you what true savagery is." And just be a straight up asskicker aligned with Joe, barefoot or not.

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« Reply #34 on: June 09, 2009, 03:23:39 AM »
Meh, no big lose. I've never been a fan.

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« Reply #35 on: June 11, 2009, 01:00:44 AM »
http://www.wwe.com/inside/industrynews/10492878

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As reported on WWE.com on Monday, June 8, 2009, WWE Superstar Umaga (Edward Fatu) has been released from his World Wrestling Entertainment contract. However, consistent with the practice of announcing wellness policy violations, it should be noted that Umaga's termination was due to his second violation of the WWE Wellness Program and his subsequent refusal to attend a rehabilitation facility.

Well, there you go.

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« Reply #36 on: June 11, 2009, 01:30:08 AM »
I'm guessing they offered him rehab or something along those lines and he just requested a release instead.

Sort of right?

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« Reply #37 on: June 11, 2009, 02:16:23 AM »
So what do they offer rehab for? Weed or painkillers? I can't remember if weed is an offense or just a fine with them...
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« Reply #38 on: June 11, 2009, 03:11:52 AM »
When it comes to weed... it depends how Vince is feeling and how much he likes your work. Trevor Murdoch was fired for failing 4 or 5 piss tests for weed I believe, while Kendrick is in the double digits right now and is still around.

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« Reply #39 on: June 11, 2009, 03:14:53 AM »
No one goes to rehab for weed. It had to be for something like painkillers.

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« Reply #40 on: June 11, 2009, 03:37:22 AM »
The general look and the mannerisms of the character........the face paint and ring attire, yelling "SAMOA!" before a big move, guarantee that shit is trademarked and will be off limits for TNA

But the ring attire is typical "Samoan guy" gimmick for the last twenty years, the only thing I could see them going after is the face paint design itself. The mannerisms? This isn't the Undertaker we are talking about, Umaga was doing what the Headshrinkers where doing, which is pretty broad stroke "savage" stuff. Take out the word Samoa insert something random in Samoan and it's the same.

Hell have Ekmo show up in TNA and cut one promo not directly against WWE, but along the lines of, "You people thought I was savage before? Lemme show you what true savagery is." And just be a straight up asskicker aligned with Joe, barefoot or not.
Right, I can't imagine WWE being able to copyright a wrestling gimmick used by tons of guys before Umaga (many of them blood relatives).  Change up the face paint, ditch "SAMOA!" (which I have a hard time thinking they could copyright), and call him Ekmo.  If he's still a barefoot savage he's still Umaga.  And yeah, just like WWE having him talk doesn't really change his value I doubt giving him a pair of pants or boots would drastically change him either if that's the way TNA wanted to go.

Although personally as much as I do agree that he could be of value to TNA I think I really rather he not sign.  I just can't imagine him NOT taking away some of Joe's mystique and undermining him.  And Joe's already lost enough of that over the last 18 months or so.  I'm just not sure the value of Umaga is worth the potential damage to Joe, unless you're just of the mind that that ship has already sailed and Joe's presence has is gone.  Which I don't agree with but I could understand.

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« Reply #41 on: June 11, 2009, 03:41:44 AM »
If he doesn't plan to come back after things blow over, he should just live out the rest of his career in Japan. Dude has improved tenfold, been in a high profile main event level matches... and there's probably no place over here that could handle whatever his new asking price will be.

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« Reply #42 on: June 11, 2009, 06:52:11 AM »
The general look and the mannerisms of the character........the face paint and ring attire, yelling "SAMOA!" before a big move, guarantee that shit is trademarked and will be off limits for TNA

But the ring attire is typical "Samoan guy" gimmick for the last twenty years, the only thing I could see them going after is the face paint design itself. The mannerisms? This isn't the Undertaker we are talking about, Umaga was doing what the Headshrinkers where doing, which is pretty broad stroke "savage" stuff. Take out the word Samoa insert something random in Samoan and it's the same.

Hell have Ekmo show up in TNA and cut one promo not directly against WWE, but along the lines of, "You people thought I was savage before? Lemme show you what true savagery is." And just be a straight up asskicker aligned with Joe, barefoot or not.
Right, I can't imagine WWE being able to copyright a wrestling gimmick used by tons of guys before Umaga (many of them blood relatives).  Change up the face paint, ditch "SAMOA!" (which I have a hard time thinking they could copyright), and call him Ekmo.  If he's still a barefoot savage he's still Umaga.  And yeah, just like WWE having him talk doesn't really change his value I doubt giving him a pair of pants or boots would drastically change him either if that's the way TNA wanted to go.

Although personally as much as I do agree that he could be of value to TNA I think I really rather he not sign.  I just can't imagine him NOT taking away some of Joe's mystique and undermining him.  And Joe's already lost enough of that over the last 18 months or so.  I'm just not sure the value of Umaga is worth the potential damage to Joe, unless you're just of the mind that that ship has already sailed and Joe's presence has is gone.  Which I don't agree with but I could understand.
You'd think they couldn't copyright the "SAMOA!" bit, but they did block Team 3-D from having Bubba say, "D-Von, get the tables!".

And I'm a big fan of Joe but I'll readily admit that ship sailed long ago. TNA had their chance with him but, as they're wanting to do, blew it, for a number of reasons.

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« Reply #43 on: June 12, 2009, 12:38:14 AM »
Joe could probably use time away from TNA to regain his mystique. If they had Umaga destroy him, then brought Joe back six months or so later, you'd have a built in feud AND people would've forgotten Joe's tedious run.

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« Reply #44 on: June 12, 2009, 02:12:49 AM »
Having an ex-WWE guy take out one of their only homegrown stars is exactly what TNA would do.

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« Reply #45 on: June 13, 2009, 11:27:53 AM »
TNA should use Joe's injury as an excuse to take him off tv, then several months down the road bring him back in his previous look to answer an open challenge of some sort. Umaga should ride it out in Japan.