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« on: April 03, 2009, 12:20:44 PM »
So which deals looking back ended up being huge for teams?

I still can't get over how the Minnesota Vikings only had to spend $100 to get Chris Carter off waivers and what he ended up doing for the team and going down as top 5 receiver of all time.

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« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2009, 12:21:48 PM »
Roberto Kelly for Paul O'Neill.

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« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2009, 12:34:57 PM »
Babe to the Yankees
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« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2009, 12:36:34 PM »
3 Super Bowls for Herschel Walker.

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« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2009, 12:39:16 PM »
West Ham signing Carlos Tevez. It somehow ended up giving Sheffield United £30m, who had nothing to do with Tevez.

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« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2009, 12:49:52 PM »
Good thread idea


This trade really brought about the Big Red Machine, and put together a legendary team.  In this trade the Reds got two of their starting 8 (one of which may have been their best player), and one of their top starting pitchers.  It really produced a dynasty for nothing.

• November 29, 1971.. Astros trade Joe Morgan, Ed Armbrister, Jack Billingham, Cesar Geronimo, and Denis Menke to the Cincinnati Reds for Lee May, Tommy Helms, and Jimmy Stewart.



Some more:

1. Cardinals trade Steve Carlton to the Phillies for legendary Rick Wise!
2. Cubs trade Lou Brock to the Cards for Ernie Broglio (June 15, 1964)
3. Red Sox send Jeff Bagwell to Houston for reliever Larry Andersen (Aug. 31, 1990)
4. Tigers send John Smoltz to Braves for Doyle Alexander (Aug. 12, 1987)
5. Yankees send Jay Buhner to Seattle for Ken Phelps (July 21, 1988)
6. Mariners send Derek Lowe and Jason Varitek to Red Sox for Heathcliff Slocumb (July 31, 1997)


Oh, and I know there are a lot of bad feelings, and things didn't end well.  But, for a few years it was quite a ride:

White Sox trade 23-year-old Sammy Sosa to the Cubs for George Bell (1992)


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« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2009, 12:51:11 PM »
Jordan dropping to #3.

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« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2009, 01:00:42 PM »
Astros trade Larry Andersen to the Red Sox for Jeff Bagwell.

Cubs trade Ivan DeJesus to the Phillies for Ryne Sandberg and Larry Bowa.

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« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2009, 01:10:27 PM »
Not a major deal, but the Braves got Kerry Litenberg who provided several years of quality relief for some bats and gloves.

As far as really good deals how about the Expos getting Pedro Martinez for Delino Deshields
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« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2009, 01:14:47 PM »
Not a major deal, but the Braves got Kerry Litenberg who provided several years of quality relief for some bats and gloves.

As far as really good deals how about the Expos getting Pedro Martinez for Delino Deshields

Another good Braves one is:

Padres send Fred McGriff to Braves for OF Melvin Nieves and pitchers Donnie Elliott and Vince Moore (July 18, 1993)
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« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2009, 01:16:53 PM »
Randy Moss traded for the 110th Pick (4th Round)...

Moss proceeds to help New England to an 18-0 record and loss in the SB.  Note that he caught the TD to give the Pats the very late lead as well.

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« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2009, 03:04:11 PM »
June 29, 2000: Yankees aquire David Justice for Ricky Ledee, Zach Day, and Jake Westbrook.

In 78 games, Justice hit 20 homers and went .305/.391/.585/.977

Exactly the shot in the arm they needed, won only 87 games yet were the division champs en route to their most recent world title.

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« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2009, 03:32:53 PM »
Brad Lidge for Michael Bourn, Geoff Geary and Michael Costanzo

Lidge vs. the Mets closers last year turned out to be the difference

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« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2009, 03:36:34 PM »
The Giants/Chargers trade on draft day 2004 ended up being pretty mutual...both have been perennial playoff contenders since, and 3 of the 4 players the draft picks were used on have been Pro Bowlers.

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« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2009, 03:47:30 PM »
The Avalanche trading a bunch of shitbags to Montreal for Patrick Roy.  Also, the same franchise fleecing the Flyers in the Lindros trade.

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« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2009, 03:51:03 PM »
The Avalanche trading a bunch of shitbags to Montreal for Patrick Roy.  Also, the same franchise fleecing the Flyers in the Lindros trade.

"Wait, you're giving us Peter Forsberg and $15,000,000? SURE!"

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« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2009, 06:24:27 PM »
This helped Pittsburgh to win two Stanley Cups.

Hartford traded Ron Francis, Grant Jennings and Ulf Samuelsson for John Cullen, Jeff Parker and Zarley Zalapski

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« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2009, 06:36:40 PM »
Wayne Gretzky, Marty McSorely and Mike Krushelnyski for Martin Gelinas, Jimmy Carson and $15 million dollars.


Or the best on waiver route.

Kris Draper to Detroit for $1.

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« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2009, 06:41:04 PM »
The Devils drafted Scott Niedermayer with a 1st round pick that they got from the Leafs in exchange for Tom Kurvers.

I thought about putting the trade that gave the Islanders the Leafs 1st round pick that they used to draft Luongo, but the Leafs did get 2 decent players in Wendel Clark and Mathieu Schneider in return and Luongo didn't do shit in New York before they traded him to Florida.

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« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2009, 06:47:00 PM »
West Ham signing Carlos Tevez. It somehow ended up giving Sheffield United £30m, who had nothing to do with Tevez.

Ugh, don't remind me. And what's worse is now some Charlton players are considering trying to get money out of West Ham. Ok guys, even if Carlos Tevez never existed and West Ham were relegated, you still would have gone down. Bizarre.


Manchester United made some amazing deals in the early to mid 90s. Roy Keane, Eric Cantona and Peter Schemeichel were all bought for less than 2 million pounds. Total. For all three. Amazing. These are some of the main guys responsible for turning Man United from an average team to one of the most successful (not to mention profitable) teams in the universe. Keane was bought for less than 50,000 pounds alone. SFA still does it every now and again. Nemanja Vidic came for like 7 million. And he's been one of their stars this season (and last).

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« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2009, 09:21:42 PM »
The Sabres got Dominik Hasek for Stephane Bauregard and a 4th round pick.  All he did was win back to back Hart trophies.

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« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2009, 09:26:14 PM »
Green Bay Packers trade the 19th Overall Pick in 1992 NFL Draft to the Atlanta Falcons for QB Brett Favre.  The Falcons then selected RB Tony Smith who started six games in his career and ran for 329 Yards and 2 TDs.

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« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2009, 11:56:20 PM »
This helped Pittsburgh to win two Stanley Cups.

Hartford traded Ron Francis, Grant Jennings and Ulf Samuelsson for John Cullen, Jeff Parker and Zarley Zalapski

I was going to post this but you beat me to it.

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« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2009, 12:02:39 AM »
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1. Cardinals trade Steve Carlton to the Phillies for legendary Rick Wise!

Wise was a good pitcher.  At the time of the trade, Carlton was 26 years old, 77-62.  Wise was 25, his career record was 75-76.  Wise had been a better pitcher in 1971, so I could easily see many here praising the deal at the time.  What it came down to is that both teams were unhappy with ongoing contract negotiations, so they swapped problems.

Rick Wise had a couple of famous moments.  He threw a no-hitter AND hit two home runs on the same day.  And in 1975, he was the winning pitcher in game six of the World Series; Fisk's famous home run.

For the Phillies of course, they won five division titles, two pennants and a World Series behind Carlton and Mike Schmidt.

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« Reply #24 on: April 04, 2009, 12:04:21 AM »
I had thought of the Pens/Whalers trade, but it seemed a bit too homer-ish for me.

Ulf was treated as a God here after that trade, and Francis had an excellent career.

One thing about the second Stanley Cup. The Pens were "meh" for much of that year. They made a deal for Richard Tocchet that really helped them in the playoffs.

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« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2009, 12:21:11 AM »
Ulf is such a douche. I fucking hate that guy, both for what he did to Cam Neely and his stupidity when he got to Detroit.

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« Reply #26 on: April 04, 2009, 12:25:49 AM »
He threw a no-hitter AND hit two home runs on the same day.


Can you clarify this, al?  Do you mean that all in one game, he threw a no-hitter and hit two home runs?  or do you mean he once threw a no-hitter, and he once hit two home runs?
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« Reply #27 on: April 04, 2009, 12:27:11 AM »
Ulf is such a douche. I fucking hate that guy, both for what he did to Cam Neely...

And that's why Penguin fans loved him.

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« Reply #28 on: April 04, 2009, 12:34:43 AM »
He threw a no-hitter AND hit two home runs on the same day.


Can you clarify this, al?  Do you mean that all in one game, he threw a no-hitter and hit two home runs?  or do you mean he once threw a no-hitter, and he once hit two home runs?

Same game.  Wise was the best hitting pitcher in baseball from 1968-71, with a batting line of .237/.267/.408.  In 1971 he actually had two 2-HR games, this was one of them.

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« Reply #29 on: April 04, 2009, 12:44:33 AM »
That has to be one of the best performances of all-time.

What's with Baseball Reference saying it was at "Cinergy Field?"  Updating the names of the parks retroactively is stupid, IMO.
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« Reply #30 on: April 04, 2009, 12:45:00 AM »
Wow. That is a ridiculous feat.

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« Reply #31 on: April 04, 2009, 12:47:32 AM »
Kevin McHale and Robert Parish from Golden State to the Celtics for Joe Barry Carroll and Rickey Brown
Pedro Martinez from the Dodgers to the Expos for Delino DeShields
Steve Young from Tampa Bay to the 49er's for a 2nd and 4th round pick
Julius Erving from the Nets to the 76er's for 3 million dollars

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« Reply #32 on: April 04, 2009, 12:51:08 AM »
That has to be one of the best performances of all-time.

What's with Baseball Reference saying it was at "Cinergy Field?"  Updating the names of the parks retroactively is stupid, IMO.

The boxscore information is imported from retrosheet.org.  That site has full pages for each ballpark.  I imagine it is much easier and cleaner to identify each park by a single name in the database, rather than four or five.  Look at it from a programming perspective.

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« Reply #33 on: April 04, 2009, 01:11:26 AM »
Senators gets Zdeno Chara, Bill Muckalt and the pick that became Jason Spezza from the Islanders for Alexei Yashin, his playoff disappearances and his $100 million contract.

Nets get franchise player Vince Carter from the Raptors for Eric Williams, Aaron Williams, Alonzo Mourning (who never played a minute for the Raptors) and the pick that became Rafael Araujo.

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« Reply #34 on: April 04, 2009, 01:17:37 AM »
Chargers trading the pick that became Vick to the Falcons for the picks that became Tomlinson and Brees.

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« Reply #35 on: April 04, 2009, 01:25:47 AM »
I had thought of the Pens/Whalers trade, but it seemed a bit too homer-ish for me.

Ulf was treated as a God here after that trade, and Francis had an excellent career.

One thing about the second Stanley Cup. The Pens were "meh" for much of that year. They made a deal for Richard Tocchet that really helped them in the playoffs.

I think Bob Johnson dying before the season took a much bigger toll on that team than anyone would like to admit.

Like you said though that Pens team got rolling in the playoffs, once they came back from being down 3-1 against the Caps it was all good from there...as they took out the Rags in 6, and then swept Boston and then Chicago(who had won 11 straight games up till the SCF or something like that).


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« Reply #36 on: April 04, 2009, 02:38:28 AM »
Pau Gasol for Kwame Brown and Marc Gasol
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar for Elmore Smith, Brian Winters and rookies in 1975


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« Reply #37 on: April 04, 2009, 08:59:23 AM »
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In 1989, at the height of his NFL career, the Cowboys traded him to the Minnesota Vikings for a total of five players (LB Jesse Solomon, DB Issiac Holt, RB Darrin Nelson, LB David Howard, DE Alex Stewart) and six draft picks (which led to Emmitt Smith, Russell Maryland, Kevin Smith, and Darren Woodson). This was judged to be one of the turning points in the rise of the Cowboys to the top echelon of the NFL. Nicknamed the "HWT" (Herschel Walker Trade), Walker's trade was widely perceived as an exceptionally poor move considering what the Vikings had to give up in order to get him, and remains one of the most frequently vilified roster moves of the team's history. The Vikings coaches reluctantly accepted Walker after the trade and never totally used the tool they had been given. Scout.com says, "but Walker was never used properly by the coaching brain trust (a total oxymoron in this case)."[6] "Herschel the Turkey," a mocking "honor" given out by the Star Tribune newspaper to particularly inept or disgraceful Minnesota sports personalities, is named for him.[7]

Walker played for the Vikings for two and a half years, never amassing 1,000 rushing yards in a season. His rights were then acquired by the Philadelphia Eagles, and, subsequently, the New York Giants. Eventually, he was re-acquired by the Cowboys, where he was used not only as a running back but as a flanker and other offensive positions as well. In addition to running and catching passes, Walker was also often used to return kickoffs throughout his career.

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« Reply #38 on: April 04, 2009, 09:47:59 AM »
The Rangers got Michael Young from the Blue Jays for Esteban Loiza.

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« Reply #39 on: April 04, 2009, 08:57:34 PM »
In recent NFL vintage, outside of the Herschel Walker Trade, it's this:

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Randy Moss traded for the 110th Pick (4th Round)...

Moss proceeds to help New England to an 18-0 record and loss in the SB.  Note that he caught the TD to give the Pats the very late lead as well.

In 2 Seasons: 167 catches for 2501 yards and 34 TD

To elaborate a little more and show how truly disgusting this deal was, New England got that fourth round pick, and SF's 1st in '08 from the Niners for NE's 1st in 2007 (became T Joe Staley, 28th overall) The SF first round pick became Jerod Mayo, the 2008 Defensive ROY, and the future of their LB corps.

...and how did Oakland use that all important fourth round draft pick? On CB John Bowie, who spent all of last season on IR.

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« Reply #40 on: April 05, 2009, 02:32:37 AM »
Still fly beat me to Jabbar.  The Barkley to Suns trade always seemed like a steal to me.  Hornacek, Tim Perry, and some other dude for one of the five best players in the league?  Sure.

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« Reply #41 on: April 05, 2009, 06:58:56 PM »
I still can't get over how the Minnesota Vikings only had to spend $100 to get Chris Carter off waivers and what he ended up doing for the team and going down as top 5 receiver of all time.

In 11 seasons with the Vikings, 4 division titles (1992, 1994, 1998 and 2000), 4 playoff wins, and 0-2 in NFC Championship appearances. Heck of a job there, Crissy.

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« Reply #42 on: April 05, 2009, 07:08:56 PM »
Jason Kidd to the Nets for Marbury.

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« Reply #43 on: April 06, 2009, 03:36:09 AM »
California Golden Seals trade Francois Lacombe and a first round pick to Montreal for a first round pick and Ernie Hicke.

Montreal then pick Guy Lafleur in the NHL draft by using California's pick.

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« Reply #44 on: April 06, 2009, 09:31:15 AM »
Chris Webber for Mitch Richmond. I actually liked Richmond the most of any NBA player at the time and I thought the Wizards were nuts for doing that trade.

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« Reply #45 on: April 09, 2009, 10:15:20 PM »
There was a point in recent history where Gretzky had more points than all the players traded on Aug 9/88 combined.

If I weren't on the tee in ninety minutes, I'd re-look that up.

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« Reply #46 on: April 10, 2009, 02:54:40 PM »
Boston trading Ken Dryden to Montreal for Guy Allen and Paul Reid.

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« Reply #47 on: May 31, 2014, 02:54:52 AM »
Good thread that should probably be rekindled...

Patriots 2001 Free Agency class itself was pretty key to their immediate dominance.  The biggest thing was the immediate veteran impact that came on the defense, especially through the LB group.

- LB Mike Vrabel went from JAG in Pittsburgh w/no real position and ended up with 48 Sacks & 11 INT over 8 years.
- WR David Patten gave New England 3 good years from 2001-2004 before injuries ultimately robbed him of his abilities.
- ST Larry Izzo was the lynchpin of that coverage unit from 2001-2008, even made 3 Pro Bowls.
- LB Roman Phifer became a key LB veteran from 2001-2003, played sparingly in 2004.
- DL Anthony Pleasant was big for that 2001 Championship (6 Sacks).

Other names: QB Damon Huard (infamous for his Peyton Manning impersonation), OG Mike Compton, CB/S Terrell Buckley, and RB Antowain Smith.