Just Close Your Eyes! AEW is EXPLODING into Spring 2021!

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

After a wildly chaotic PPV that has the IWC abuzz, AEW starts on the road to Double or Nothing (their next PPV and also probably referring to their pyro budget). How will Christian Cage make an IMPACT on Dynamite? Wait what promotion is this (and what year is it?) Who will walk through that Forbidden Door? Discuss AEW March through May 2021 ITT.

 

[cobainwasmurdered]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1368796928562069507

reposted from the first thread. this is a totally insulting response on multiple levels. People wanted you to fucking deliver on the premise of the match.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Honestly don't know if that's TK trying to cover their asses or if that is genuinely what they were trying to do.

 

[cobainwasmurdered]

I thought at first it was but not with the way Eddie was selling like he'd been killed and the announcing crew acting like they'd been murdered. Not a chance.

 

[Hawk 34]

If I’m working for Tony Khan, I’m taking note that he covered his booking first and not the talent (Eddie, Mox, the referees and the announcers).

He isn't the first and won’t be the last promoter to do that but it’s something to keep note of if you are a current or prospective employee who keeps hearing him promote inclusion.

 

[geniusMoment]

LOL. What a freaking moron.

Thing is, he's saying 2 things in his statement. One is that Kenny misfired.

Then:

"Says he's not sure what people expected outside actually blowing guys up."

Which is it dumbass?

 

[tekcop]

He acts as if we haven't seen, like, Kane's and Batista's entrances the past two decades.

 

[snuffbox]

Didn't they air footage of some of the better looking explosion matches from 1990s Japan in the buildup for this?

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

I'm genuinely upset rn at inevitability of Tony Khan: Obnoxious Heel Authority Figure (and the AEW stans being like "Well actually, it's really good!") in next year or two.

 

[geniusMoment]

I'm thinking Tony Khan was hiding under his desk in whatever prep school he was in during 1995. Look at the exploding death ring that WWF was doing:

 

[Big Papa Paegan]

Tony Khan is why we need to normalize bullying

 

[geniusMoment]

Not sure if this is a good thing considering the event I saw last night. But, AEW was number 5 on Google trends (which is amazing for them), and they did the highest streaming buys they've ever done according to Meltzer.

So, this will end up being their most watched ppv show, and highly profitable.

The question becomes did it do long-term damage? If so, how much?

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1368787132853198851

 

[909]

The question becomes did it do long-term damage? If so, how much?

This is probably an unpopular opinion, but the answer is none. None whatsoever. You just need to look at how many fuckups it took for TNA/WCW/WWE to actually start doing long term damage to themselves.

 

[Baby Shoes]

I didn’t watch the show but I saw the clips and a lot of the “fan commentary” seems overblown.

Yeah, the ending sucked. They tried something different and it didn’t work as it should’ve this time. This is still the most interesting and viable alternative we had in some time, having a couple sticker matches and a botched finish, while not ideal, does not warrant all this sky is falling BS.

And I’d say there was probably no realistic way to please the people who are upset or feel misled with Christian. Tony Khan could’ve found a way to reanimate Macho Man and have him perform to the peak of his prime and people would still bitch that it wasn’t enough at this point.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

I didn't watch either and I might be speaking out of my butt (yet again) but from what I've read, most people who watched enjoyed most aspects of the PPV (including the main event). But I think last night, more than any night since Dynamite debuted, AEW really needed to stick the landing and they fumbled badly, which set up all of this derision from WWE & Clownette Cucks.

 

[909]

The ending was really fucking bad, but taking everything into account I've seen worse. Like literally countless PPV's ending with Bray Wyatt having ruined shit after having had a joke match. The PPV as a whole was a bigger problem because it was average, and it's turning into a situation where the television is so much better than these PPV's. I appreciate their overeagerness because it's in such contrast to WWE where you know things aren't going to go right, but they're setting people's expectations ungodly high with some of these things.

Also, that being said, my fickleness when it comes to wrestling has been posted many times around these parts, and AEW hasn't broken me yet. So they're doing something right. I can say that in contrast to many WWE PPV's that I don't feel like saying that I never want to watch this company again.

 

[Valeyard]

It absolutely is not going to hurt them, especially when NXT moves. Forgive and forget. It doesn't take away from it being hilarious.

 

[geniusMoment]

I really think what AEW needs is a strong, detail-oriented editor who could go over all their shows and create a more cohesive product.

Someone who could both get the agent reports for the matches, and have the overall script of the show, and figure out how to limit some of the stupid stuff. Like, this would be a person who would tell the Joshi people "no more doing mime stuff in matches" after seeing it once.

Also, the roster is way too big. There is a lot of dead weight (and even some good talent) that needs to be cut. The best way to build stars is to feature them week in and out. This becomes impossible with a roster this size.

 

[Valeyard]

Roster-wise they also have a ton of guys who look exactly the same. Thin white dudes with long hair was the theme of that battle royal.

 

[geniusMoment]

And while one bad mistake probably wont' do a ton a damage. I do think if Tony doubles-down on this, and acts like nothing went wrong that does hurt the company. At the very least it makes him look like a doofus. Which isn't a good look for your CEO.

Like so many things in life, the coverup can be more damaging than the deed.

I'd have a lot of respect for him if he just came out and said it was a mistake, and obviously they're embarrassed by it, and as CEO he takes the blame. And that from now on he's going to make sure stuff like that doesn't happen again. Just own it and move on.

 

[alkeiper]

Information I don't know what to do with.

This year, WWE had seen 203 wrestlers work matches, 149 for All Elite Wrestling. AEW has a two hour block to fill plus Dynamite. WWE obviously has a lot more. I agree with the bloat of AEW. It's unnecessary and for a promotion without seemingly unlimited funds it would be a crippling problem. You don't need to pay that many people to put on a wrestling show.

 

[Baby Shoes]

AEW’s roster is too big right now but I do think that number may appear more inflated from business practices AEW utilizes that WWE doesn’t. Dozens of those numbers are likely enhancement talent putting over their Koko B. Ware level talent and the way that breakdown is structured, it counts guys like Kenta and the Good Brothers who are making guest appearances. Granted, that’s still putting non-contracted guys on TV when their own talent isn’t getting there but I think those two things alone justify a larger number than what you see in WWE where they have a string of talented guys that can’t even get a five minute match on Main Event.

 

[Big Papa Paegan]

I keep saying it, but AEW is just a live-action e-fed, meaning the roster is padded by a bunch of talents who come in for a few weeks and then trail off...but their bios remain uploaded.

This is even more reflective in the approach to the shows themselves, where the talents who get the most airtime and top billing are part of the office and bad ideas are allowed to continue BeCaUsE tHe LuLz. One or two bad shows or anticlimactic matches won't sink the company, no, but a constant string of them definitely will.

While I have no doubt that Christian will prove a damn good signing who will work his ass off and give great advice to younger talent? He's also a career midcarder who jumped ship to a smaller company before and was soon overshadowed by that home roster as well as future signings. I think that him randomly showing up at the show would've done more good than hyping up his debut, because at least a random arrival adds to the "what could happen next" feeling.

 

[909]

Information I don't know what to do with.

This year, WWE had seen 203 wrestlers work matches, 149 for All Elite Wrestling. AEW has a two hour block to fill plus Dynamite. WWE obviously has a lot more. I agree with the bloat of AEW. It's unnecessary and for a promotion without seemingly unlimited funds it would be a crippling problem. You don't need to pay that many people to put on a wrestling show.

I agree that it's bloated, but a large amount of those were talent they gave a paycheck to because their indy promotions had shut down. Some of them also wound up being too good not so sign and they've made others useless. So, while there's a good reason to release guys there's also a reason they haven't, they also do have unlimited money, and they won't do it because they'd get ripped worse than Vince.

 

[Valeyard]

It makes the lack of rotation between them and Impact look worse to me. One company has too many, the other can use a few more.

 

[HSJ]

This is one of those times where I appreciate Vince/WWE because if this happened to them, all they would do would be edit a video package together to make it look like it was bigger than it was and never mention again. They wouldn't harp on their screw up and give us little elbow jabs about it.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1369149901704200193

Time to show ‘em how it’s done.

 

[Big Papa Paegan]

One step closer to that Omega/Jack dream match of mine

I can see it now...
Kenny in the ring, with the Good Brothers. Cutting one of his usual "why am I watching this" promos, as Karl and Gallows revel in mediocrity...

Kenny: "And there isn't anybody who can stop us!"

**missile shot**

**NATURAL BORN KILLAZ**

**Dark Side of the Ring, Season 5: When Jack Met Kenny**

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Apparently, Jon Moxley was responsible for Christian making the move to AEW.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1369332318951858185

This is why I'm glad there's AEW. If Mox wasn't around. I'm guessing WWE would've been like "Oh yeah. I guess we could use Christian." and thrown him in a random meaningless midcard multiman match like a week or two before the show. Now Christian gets one last chance at a run.