2004-2009 Music (RIP Heath Ledger)

[Valeyard]

"Goodnight Goodnight" by Hot Hot Heat is a bop.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

There was an interesting article in Vulture or The Ringer or some other publication that I love and Inc hate reads a few years back about how 2003-12 is lost era of music cause it was in declining years of physical media but before streaming services really got kicking. '00s music as a whole feels like it holds up a lot better than I thought it would a disillusioned, grumpy teen. Not that it holds a candle to the '60s, '80s, or '90s but there's a fair amount of forgotten gems.

 

[Valeyard]

File sharing existed and still does. The Limewire Generation made it possible to stream so greedy pirates like myself can hear music reasonably proper instead of crusty dialup files. The vast majority of music I have was obtained by the price others paid so I could listen to it. Napster invented bitcoin.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Don't make me send Lars Ulrich to your house.

 

[Valeyard]

Enough not being serious. Zutons.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

I am not sure what was dumber predicting that Scissor Sisters would be a generational defining act or Electric Six would be selling out arenas.

 

[Fall of Epic]

Arctic Monkey's were tapped to take over the world in like 2004. They had that hot debut then seemingly fell off the earth.

Arcade Fire was another band that got lots of hype with their debut record.

 

[Valeyard]

That first Arcade Fire is awesome.

 

[snuffbox]

Don't make me send Lars Ulrich to your house.

Be on the lookout for the little bitch fauntleroy suit @The Valeyard

 

[snuffbox]

I am not sure what was dumber predicting that Scissor Sisters would be a generational defining act or Electric Six would be selling out arenas.

Scissor Sisters were and are good. We all know why they didn't get as big as they should've.

 

[Valeyard]

Scissor Sisters were extremely popular among the crowd I was with so I got bubble'd into thinking they were bigger.

 

[Valeyard]

Starfucker Era did give us a summer jam.

 

[Big Papa Paegan]

I started this era all about Shadows Fall and Unearth, spent most of it going to Gwar and Municipal Waste shows, and ended it worshipping Suffocation and Dying Fetus.

That's about all I can add here.

 

[Valeyard]

There's a likely chance you said something on the old board that made me get into Gwar for a while.

 

[Mickey Massuco]

Probably the worst era for music.

 

[Mickey Massuco]

People were talking about Arcade Fire and Death Cab like they were gonna be indie greats alongside Pavement and Sebadoh gtfo

 

[AA484]

People were talking about Arcade Fire and Death Cab like they were gonna be indie greats alongside Pavement and Sebadoh gtfo

Funeral is better than any Pavement album

 

[Brocklock]

Funeral is better than any Pavement album

I like this era way more than 2014-2021. I think 2013 was the last year where there were like 10 albums I really loved.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

I am not buying any argument that the past five years were better than this stretch.

 

[snuffbox]

Arcade Fire and Death Cab (and Modest Mouse, My Morning Jacket, Doomtree/Dessa, Iron & Wine, etc) are absolutely on Pavement's level. Above Sebadoh if not Dino Jr.

 

[Fall of Epic]

I never got into the Postal Service but Iron & Wine is fucking awesome. Especially his earlier input (2004-2007 to fit the thread's narrative).

 

[Brocklock]

Low put out two of my favorite albums of their's during this period as well (The Great Destroyer and Drums & Guns). Mountain Goats had some classics too in this period like Sunset Tree and Heretic Pride.

04-09 was great for indie rock. I wish I didn't waste so much time around my friends listening to a ton of subgenres with the words scene or core in them.

 

[Valeyard]

I discovered so much stuff over that period. Still in love with Regina Spektor, still not sure if I like Firey Furnaces, still just go back to Tom Waits killing it.

 

[Gary]

In hindsight, there was some great hip hop from this era- Doom had"Madvillain and "Mm...Food?", Kanye had"College Drop Out" and "Late Registration", Clipse put out "Hell Hath No Fury", Cunninglinguists released "A Piece of Strange", Little Brother released "The Minstrel Show"...I could go on and on.

Also a good time for Black Metal-Drudkh, Deathspell Omega, Ruins of Beverast, Wolves in the Throne Room, Negura Bunget and Enslaved have some real gems.

 

[Valeyard]

It's so hard for me to go back to those Kanye albums. I should try again soon.

 

[Big Papa Paegan]

This was one of my favorite releases of 2005, and probably a top 20 favorite release for me.

Spoiler

 

[snuffbox]

It's so hard for me to go back to those Kanye albums. I should try again soon.

Agreed. Those frst 2 records are fantastic musically. But it is so hard, if not impossible (for me anyway) to separate that music with his horrible choices afterward. I have empathy for mental health diagnoses but so much of what West has done has been, to be clear, chosen behaviors. A lot of people have confused excuse making with actual mental health and I do not choose to partake in that damaging bullshit.

 

[Valeyard]

It was just such a special time. To me, this guy came out of nowhere and put out a couple of the best albums of the past ten years back to back, before being outed as a gay fish. In a sense it's great someone with the issues he has was able to make albums that good before he just cracked, but frankly as someone who has spent a long time dealing with people that have all kinds of psychological problems a lot just are assholes and there's reluctance to just say it. He'd be fascinating if he wasn't so...Kanye.

 

[Valeyard]

This is the most 2008 video in existence. Bangin'.

 

[Gary]

This was one of my favorite releases of 2005, and probably a top 20 favorite release for me.

Spoiler

This is one of those times I gotta say "Never change man"

2004 is actually a pretty great year for metal and hard rock. We got

• Mastodon - Leviathan
• Isis - Panopticon
• Converge - You Fail Me
• Pig Destroyer - Terrifyer
• Neurosis - The Eye of Every Storm
• Drudkh - Autumn Aurora
• Disillusion - Back to Times of Splendor
• Orphaned Land - Mabool
• Cult of Luna - Salvation
• Deathspell Omega - Si Monvmentvm reqvires, circvmspice
• Jesu - Self Titled
• My Dying Bride - Songs of Darkness, Worlds of Light
• Motorhead - Inferno
• Enslaved - Isa
• The Chasm - The Spell of Retribution
• Nasum - Shift
• Clutch - Blast Tyrant
• The Ruins of Beverast - Unlock the Shrines
• Dillinger Escape Plan - Miss Machine
• Insomnium - Since the Day it All Came Down
• Bloodbath - Nightmares Made Flesh

and some I likely missed out on. That's a hell of a list