2024 NBA Draft

[Gert]

I was a little behind on making this post. You'll hear a lot of 2000 and 2013 when it comes to this draft class, which if I'm being honest intrigues me even more.

2024 Draft Order:

1st Round

1. Atlanta Hawks - Zaccharie Risacher
2. Washington Wizards - Alex Sarr
3. Houston Rockets - Reed Sheppard
4. San Antonio Spurs - Stephon Castle
5. Detroit Pistons - Ron Holland II
6. Charlotte Hornets - Tidjane Salaun
7. Portland Trail Blazers - Donovan Clingan
8. San Antonio Spurs - Rob Dillingham (traded to Timberwolves)
9. Memphis Grizzlies - Zach Edey
10. Utah Jazz - Cody Williams
11. Chicago Bulls - Matas Buzelis
12. Oklahoma City Thunder - Nikola Topic
13. Sacrmento Kings - Devin Carter
14. Portland Trail Blazers - Bub Carrington (traded to Wizards)
15. Miami Heat - Kel’el Ware
16. Philadelphia 76ers - Jared McCain
17. Los Angeles Lakers - Dalton Knecht
18. Orlando Magic - Tristan da Silva
19. Toronto Raptors - Ja’Kobe Walter
20. Cleveland Cavaliers - Jaylon Tyson
21. New Orleans Pelicans - Yves Missi
22. Phoenix Suns - DaRon Holmes II (traded to Nuggets)
23. Milwaukee Bucks - AJ Johnson
24. New York Knicks - Kyshawn George (traded to Wizards)
25. New York Knicks - Pacome Dadiet
26. Washington Wizards - Dillon Jones (traded to Thunder)
27. Minnesota Timberwolves - Terrance Shannon, Jr.
28. Denver Nuggets - Ryan Dunn (traded to Suns)
29. Utah Jazz - Isaiah Collier
30. Boston Celtics - Baylor Scheierman

2nd Round

31. Toronto Raptors - Jonathan Mogbo
32. Utah Jazz - Kyle Filipowski
33. Milwaukee Bucks - Tyler Smith
34. Portland Trail Blazers - Tyler Kolek (traded to Knicks)
35. San Antonio Spurs - Johnny Furphy (traded to Pacers)
36. Indiana Pacers - Juan Nunez (traded to Spurs)
37. Minnesota Timberwolves - Bobi Klintman (traded to Pistons)
38. New York Knicks - Ajay Mitchell (traded to Thunder)
39. Memphis Grizzlies - Jaylen Wells
40. Portland Trail Blazers - Osasere Ighodaro (traded to Suns)
41. Philadelphia 76ers - Adem Bona
42. Charlotte Hornets - K.J. Simpson
43. Miami Heat - Nikola Durisic (traded to Hawks)
44. Houston Rockets - Pelle Larsson (traded to Heat)
45. Sacramento Kings - Jamal Shead (traded to Raptors)
46. Los Angeles Clippers - Cam Christie
47. Orlando Magic - Antonio Reeves (traded to Pelicans)
48. San Antonio Spurs - Harrison Ingram
49. Indiana Pacers - Tristen Newton
50. Indiana Pacers - Enrique Freeman
51. Washington Wizards - Melvin Ajinca (traded to Mavericks)
52. Golden State Warriors - Quinten Post (traded to Thunder)
53. Detroit Pistons - Cam Spencer (traded to Grizzlies)
54. Boston Celtics - Anton Watson
55. Los Angeles Lakers - Bronny James
56. Denver Nuggets - Kevin McCullar, Jr. (traded to Knicks)
57. Memphis Grizzlies - Ulrich Chomche (traded to Raptors)
58. Dallas Mavericks - Ariel Hukporti (traded to Knicks)

(Philadelphia 76ers and Phoenix Suns each forfeited a 2nd Round pick).

 

[alfdogg]

I've heard people say Tobias Harris or Derrick Lively would go #1 overall in this class.

Without looking I would say having Giannis and Rudy should eliminate 2013 from any WOAT draft discussions despite Bennett and MCW flaming out so quickly.

 

[Gert]

Haha funny you mention that. I have something printed off about 2013 and 2000 and left it at work (I’ll post it tomorrow). Giannis and Gobert skew it ahead of 2000 big time!

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

2013 also has a handful of guys who weren’t blow away but have had solid enough NBA careers. 2006 is are worse than 2013 and the 2002 is just as bad (but none of them are as bad as 2000)

In terms of pre draft hype ATT though, 2013 was definitely the weakest until this current draft class. That is how Anthony Bennett ended up as #1 is cause Victor Oladipo was only thing close to a consensus #1 and Cleveland already had Kyrie.

People were definitely way more jacked up for Andrea Bargnani, LaMarcus Aldridge and Adam Morrison than anyone is for any of the current draft prospects (or 2013 prospects in spring of that year).

‘98-‘02 is a bit of black hole for me for NBA history. Thanks Pitino (and ‘98/‘99 lockout). Were people excited for the ‘00 draft class going into it?

 

[alfdogg]

From what I can tell K-Mart was the only one people were pegging as a potential future star, and even he was a big question mark because he had broken his leg in college. Which is ironic because the Nets drafted him largely to replace Jayson Williams, who had just had his career ended by a broken leg.

IIRC it was actually Nerlens Noel who was considered to have the highest upside of the 2013 class. But he also had injury question marks I believe.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Yeah. I think everyone assumed Cleveland was gonna pick Noel. Idk if it was a safe assumption that Anthony Bennett was going to be a lottery pick. He was projected to go around 8 or 9. He is not just the worst #1 but definitely most random.

 

[Gert]

From what I can tell K-Mart was the only one people were pegging as a potential future star, and even he was a big question mark because he had broken his leg in college. Which is ironic because the Nets drafted him largely to replace Jayson Williams, who had just had his career ended by a broken leg.

IIRC it was actually Nerlens Noel who was considered to have the highest upside of the 2013 class. But he also had injury question marks I believe.

Yeah the 2000 draft was interesting since KMart was the clear cut #1, but the last thing we saw was a catastrophic leg injury three months before. There was a lot of Darius Miles hype as he was catching some KG comps. Fizer also was getting a lot of buzz because of ISU’s NCAA run.

 

[HarleyQuinn]

I've heard the two French players, Risacher and Alex Starr are widely expected to go #1 and #2. Are there any "big" names that may drop in the Draft due to skill set not really translating vs. fans knowing them as a big name (thinking a Zach Edey out of Purdue maybe)?

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Darius Miles got a Sports Illustrated or maybe it was ESPN: The Magazine cover but that might have been two or three seasons into his career.

For all of the horrible mistakes made in Cleveland sports over the years, at least the ‘03 Cavs GM had the sense to get Darius and Ricky Davis away from LeBron at the earliest possible chance!

 

[Gert]

I've heard the two French players, Risacher and Alex Starr are widely expected to go #1 and #2. Are there any "big" names that may drop in the Draft due to skill set not really translating vs. fans knowing them as a big name (thinking a Zach Edey out of Purdue maybe)?

The latest Edey intel is very wide, some have said anywhere between 9-19. I think I would still have a very hard time using a lottery pick on him, , but maybe this is the draft to do this especially if a team believes that his median outcome is his floor if that makes sense.

I think Sarr is a lock for Top 2, because I think Washington takes him for sure if he gets past the #1 pick.

 

[Gert]

Illinois wing Terrance Shannon, Jr. was found not guilty of rape in Kansas today. Most boards have him anywhere between 25-45 on draft boards. Maybe this news gets him back into the first round.

 

[Gert]

So I was going to make a 5-10-15-20 year draft synopsis, but 2013 and 2000 are too locked into this draft so I looked at these too. The difference between Win Share’s and VORP is interesting as it leads a bigger lean towards big men.

2013 Win Shares

1. Giannis Antetokounpko (13th) (109.3)
2. Rudy Gobert (27th) (106.0)
3. Steven Adams (12th) (59.3)
4. Mason Plumlee (22nd) (54.1)
5. CJ McCollum (10th) (50.5)

My Top 5 that year was:
1. Victor Oladipo
2. Nerleans Noel
3. Otto Porter Jr.
4. Ben McLemore
5. Shabazz Muhammad

I think that while most people did think that 6 guys were in play for the #1 pick, I don’t really think Porter and Len were really in play.

 

[Gert]

I think I am going to break down guys that are most likely to be top 5, in the lottery, first round grade and then other.


Guys that I think will be Top 5:


Alex Sarr (19y, 2 mo) 6’11.75 w/o shoes
Perth Wildcats NBL – (9.4 PPG, 4.3 REB, 0.9 AST, 1.5 BLKS, 0.4 STL, 52/29/71%)



Zaccharie Risacher (19y, 3 mo) 6’8.5 w/o shoes
JL Bourg – Beltic Elite League/France (10.1 PPG, 3.8 REB, 0.9 AST, 0.8 BLK, 0.3 STL, 44/36/74%)



Reed Shepard (20y, 0 mo) 6’1.75 w/o shoes
University of Kentucky (12.5 PPG, 4.5 RPG, 4.1 AST, 0.7 BLK, 2.5 STL, 54/52/84%)



Donovan Clingan (20y, 4 mo) 7’1.75 w/o shoes
University of Connecticut (13.0 PPG, 7.4 RPG, 1.5 AST, 2.5 BLK, 0.5 STL, 64/25/59%)



Stephon Castle (19y, 7 mo) 6’5.50 w/o shoes
University of Connecticut (11.1 PPG, 4.7 RPG, 2.9 AST, 0.5 BLK, 0.8 STL, 47/27/76%)



Other guys in play for Top 5

Matas Buzelis, Ron Holland, Tidjane Salaun

 

[Gert]

Guys that I think will be in the lottery (Top 14)



Matas Buzelis (19y, 8 mo) 6’8.75 w/o shoes
NBA G League Ignite (14.3 PPG, 6.9 REB, 1.9 AST, 2.1 BLK, 0.9 STL, 45/27/68%)



Tidjane Salaun (18y, 10mo) 6’8.75 w/o shoes
Cholet Basket France (9.0 PPG, 4.0 REB, 1.0 AST, 0.2 BLK, 1.2 STL, 37/33/77%)



Ron Holland (18y, 11mo) 6’6.50 w/o shoes
NBA G League Ignite (20.6 PPG, 6.6 RPG, 3.2 APG, 0.7 BLK, 2.5 STL, 44/24/76%)



Cody Williams (19y, 7mo) 6’6.50 w/o shoes
University of Colorado (11.9 PPG, 3.0 REB, 1.6 APG, 0.7 BLK, 0.6 STL, 55/42/71%)



Dalton Knecht (23y, 2mo) 6’5.25 w/o shoes
University of Tennessee (21.7 PPG, 4.9 REB, 1.8 AST, 0.6 BLK, 0.7 STL, 46/40/77%)



Devin Carter (22y, 3mo) 6’2.25 w/o shoes
Providence College (19.7 PPG, 8.7 REB, 3.6 AST, 1.0 BLK, 1.8 STL, 47/38/75%)



Nikola Topic (18y, 10mo) 6’5.75 w/o shoes
Mega Basket Adriatic League (18.4 PPG, 3.6 REB, 7.1 AST, 56/26/85%)



Other guys in play as a lottery pick:

Carlton “Bub” Carrington, Tristan Da Silva, Rob Dillingham, Daron Holmes II, Jared McCain, JaKobe Walter, Kel’el Ware

 

[Gert]

Next group of guys are players that I think get drafted in the first round for sure (Gets us up to 23 spots)



Rob Dillingham (19y, 5mo) 6’1.00 w/o shoes
University of Kentucky (15.2 PPG, 3.9 REB, 2.9 AST, 0.1 BLK, 1.0 STL, 48/45/80%)



Carlton “Bub” Carrington (18y, 11mo) 6’3.75 w/o shoes
Pittsburgh University (13.8 PPG, 5.2 RPG, 4.1 AST, 0.2 BLK, 0.6 STL, 41/32/79%)



Jared McCain (20y, 8mo) 6’2.00 w/o shoes
Duke University (14.3 PPG, 5.0 REB, 1.9 AST, 0.1 BLK, 1.0 STL, 46/41/89%)



Ja’Kobe Walter (19y, 9mo) 6’4.25 w/o shoes
Baylor University (14.5 PPG, 4.5 REB 1.4 AST, 0.2 BLK, 1.1 STL, 38/34/79%)



Tristan Da Silva (23y, 1mo) 6’8.25 w/o shoes
University of Colorado (16.0 PPG, 5.1 REB, 2.4 AST, 0.6 BLK, 1.1 STL, 49/40/84%)



Kel’el Ware (20y, 2mo) 6’11.75 w/o shoes
Indiana University (15.9 PPG, 9.9 REB, 1.5 AST, 1.9 BLK, 0.6 STL, 59/43/63%)



DaRon Holmes II (21y, 10mo) 6’8.75 w/o shoes
University of Dayton (20.4 PPG, 8.5 REB, 2.6 AST, 2.1 BLK, 0.9 STL, 54/39/71%)



Zach Edey (22y, 1mo) 7’3.75 w/o shoes
Purdue University (25.2 PPG, 12.2 RPG, 2.0 APG, 2.2 BLK, 0.3 STL, 62/N-A/71%)



Kyle Filipowski (20y, 7mo) 6’10.75 w/o shoes
Duke University (16.4 PPG, 8.3 REB, 2.8 AST, 1.5 BLK, 1.1 STL, 51/35/67%)



Isaiah Collier (19y, 8mo) 6’2.50 w/o shoes
Southern Cal (16.3 PPG, 2.9 REB, 4.3 AST, 0.2 BLK, 1.5 STL, 49/34/67%)



Yves Missi (20y, 1mo) 6’10.75 w/o shoes
Baylor University (10.7 PPG, 5.6 REB, 0.4 AST, 1.5 BLK, 0.6 STL, 61/N-A/62%)

 

[Gert]

Alex Sarr has refused to workout with the Hawks and Risacher is now -200 on some betting sites to go #1.

 

[Gert]

Ugh I left my notebook at work, but I want to put part of my list on here so I don’t get caught being Chad Ford in 2031!

My rankings (as much as I can remember until tomorrow)

1. Alex Sarr
2. Reed Sheppard
3. Ron Holland
4. Stephon Castle
5. Zaccharie Risacher
6. Donovan Clingan
7. Cody Williams
8. Bub Carrington
9. Devin Carter
10. Dalton Knecht
11. Tidjane Salaun
12. Nikola Topic
13. Rob Dillingham
14. Matas Buzelis
15. Jared McCain
16. Kyle Filipowski
17. Zach Edey
18. Ja’Kobe Walter

Forgot the rest. Feel like 1-3 are a tier, 4-6 are a small tier below, and honestly I have no clue with the guys between 7-14, a combo of raw young guys and a couple 22 and 23 year olds. Can’t wait!

 

[Gert]

First four picks went pretty chalk. Gotta think the Pistons are taking calls now if people are wanted to get Clingan.

Well so much for that! Shooting in Detroit is going to be rough, but I think it’s a great pick as Holland is precisely the guy you should bet on the upside.

 

[Gert]

Sounds like Dillingham is going to Minnesota. I’d be curious to see what the trade is. That’s a huge jump.

 

[Gert]

Edey just went 9th to Memphis, honestly the way the board played out, I don’t hate this pick for Memphis.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Sounds like Dillingham is going to Minnesota. I’d be curious to see what the trade is. That’s a huge jump.

A 2031 unprotected first and a 2030 pick swap. I know they got one of the best players today and just made it to their first conference finals in 20 years but given franchise history, they could easily be back in the sewer in 5-6 years!

 

[Gert]

A 2031 unprotected first and a 2030 pick swap. I know they got one of the best players today and just made it to their first conference finals in 20 years but given franchise history, they could easily be back in the sewer in 5-6 years!

Could you imagine a 26 year old Wemby gets a Top 10 pick from Minnesota in 2031?!

 

[Gert]

I really like the Carter pick for SacTo. I also think Bub going to Washington would be great for their rebuild.

 

[Mickey Massuco]

Is this draft meant to be a talented one? I’ve heard the opposite.

 

[Gert]

Is this draft meant to be a talented one? I’ve heard the opposite.

From most people have said it’s a draft that starts at 5 or 6 and then it’s a normal draft.

 

[909]

Knecht pick is almost too good to be true. I'd have taken him top five.

 

[HarleyQuinn]

Sounds like the Celtics picked a dude who can be another potential future 3 & D type player, which fits their style of team. At worst, he'd be a guy who will come off the bench and be a catch & 3 shooter.

 

[Gert]

Knecht pick is almost too good to be true. I'd have taken him top five.

GREAT pick for the Lakers. Whereas JHS was never going to get on the court to help the Lakers last year, Knecht will be out there and be able to score on and off the ball.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

In least surprising turn of events ever, Lakers select Bronny James at #55.

 

[909]

It’s funny people getting mad about this while Giannis shitty brothers have been in the league a long time. And all of them are worse than Bronny James.